Yes. I know it is spelled J2ME and not Y2ME. I just had some sort of brain fart and I can't reupload the video for music licensing/sponsor reasons so pretend that was done on purpose let's just lampshade it ok that was totally planned and I am super cunning etc etc etc It is also just like in the last seconds of the video come on we can let it be for once we are all humans (after all) etc etc etc ALSO: 68, 26, 26, 19, 46, 16, 57, 36, 48, 88 EDIT: i also misread scrcpy as scrcpi but in my defense i have been tinkering with a pi zero w2 for the whole week so i kept thinking about it lmao
We germans call cellphones "Handy". So a german might say: "I am upset. I didn't watch my pocket in the public bathroom and ended up with a wet Handy!"
"Beepers" are mostly called "Pagers". Very interesting video, thanks! Edit: hot take: this phone has more character and actual features than 99% of current day android/apple phones. Display on the back? physical buttons (visually impaired people are not left out? wow.) buttons can act as a touchpad? cool?
Aren't pagers also text-capable? Not sure about this, trying to remember these devices from US movies, I don't think we've even had this technology in PL back then 😆
@@BartekSzzzsome later models were, I had a Motorola pager that supported something like 50 characters. Before that we had number codes we would send instead, like 3165 (cafe) was a special friend meet at a special coffee shop, and 801 (ho-one) was meet the friend at his home instead.
i had an insane obsession with hunting for a keitai earlier this year/late last year; i have a whole notesheet of phones that work with my carrier, and i did extensive research. ended up going with a Mode I Retro II in white; plan to switch to it when my iphone 13 croaks, runs android 13 and has a touch screen. absolutely insane!! got the T9 working and everything as well, made my own charm and its such a fun and efficient phone. the microphone on it sounds better than my iphone ;w;. was looking into a kyocera digno 902kc but kept having secondary thoughts on the cursor functionality. im so glad to see keitais getting more recognition, they're so fun and surprisingly some are functional in the US (heavily dependent on what bands they use though) which is so cool.
@Danyiaha i bought mine secondhand, so i am not sure whats a factory issue and whats not; but from what ive used of it, my main issue (again, secondhand but in really good condition) is it has a bit of a double press issue on one key (8) and its mildly annoying but that may also be due to my t9 app i use to allow the keyboard to function the way i want :p. i havent used it exclusively for sim related messaging, however, instagram, discord, google voice (lack of sim due to it still being in my iphone 13), and any more recent apps work as well, and some have really nice functionality with the arrow keys too!! i would double and triple check before taking the plunge though, to make sure your location has the bands required to connect to signal on the phone incase you ever need it.
Awesome video. Love the editing, you almost seem like you are presenting with a modern day perspective but with a period accurate aesthetic when you talk about about the beepers and early cell phones
Fun fact what you said about french people saying "le portable" is true (also you didn't butcher it, it was perfect), however this is only true for french people, not all french *talking* people will say that. I know that people in belgium, canada or switzerland say it differently (such as "cellulaire", "natel", etc)
The TZ803A you're showing at 3:49 is actually a shoulder carried phone, though a car phone model was one of the first models initially offered with the network. Car Phones had actually existed in the world prior to cell phone networks since about the late 40s to the 50s. They basically worked as a radio-based version of normal telephone systems. Most car phones going into the cell-phone era of the mid to late 80s likely still used a true car phone type service to call land lines, rather than a cell phone network. If you've seen someone in a movie talk on a car phone in the 70s to the 90s, it's likely they're not using any sort of cell network, even in Japan, but likely some sort of radio-based telephony. Also, the initial 1G network NTT made only covered metropolitan Tokyo; it took until the mid 80s for Japan to finally achieve the first nationwide cell service network (though how true this is I wonder, mostly because there are still remote areas of Japan with service issues where citizens claim they've never had phone lines or electricity, let alone cell service). It's important to remember as well that since almost all the "1G" networks used analog radio frequencies, and that there were many, while Japan pushed to create the first, they didn't really develop the idea of a cellphone or cellular telephony; the idea was being worked on for decades by many, many companies, with prototype networks and devices being setup and used even prior to NTT. It's just that NTT had the first commercial one. First to market, important, of course, but given that might have only really made sense given the financial bubble that was forming; we had a lot of computer technology develop here in the US in the 90s related to the internet specifically because of the dotcom bubble that was forming. Something to think about.
1:20 I know you're mainland European but if I didn't know beforehand, I'd think that "to make sure they're not currently being stabbed" line is peak Winnipeg and/or British brainrot right there.
Great video. In 2005-2006 I was making games for the Japanese phone market. Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus - Lost Episode was the main one. It was a fascinating time. I remember having a particularly ‘interesting’ meeting at the DoCoMo HQ where 30 salarymen stared at us while a guy from Square Enix screamed at them :)
uhhh, do you happen to still have access to that game? i think it's a lost media thing now, that or it's some other square/final fantasy j2me featurephone game which you might have or know of a way to recover it, but yeah, pretty sure i know of some people who are looking for it
@ I think I only have a dev build that ran on PC. But the last time I tried to run it I didn’t have the tools / engine exe. It’s a shame because I have a bunch of demos we did for a pitch for Sonic and DMC for mobile. This is all pre-iPhone. The J2ME version was a total pain to develop. The reason SE were going crazy at DoCoMo was because they wouldn’t let native apps run on the phone. I think the main customer for it was KDDI.
Damnnnnn you're a celebrity to me I was so passively hoping that game would get ported to something my british ass knew about, as a kid. truly lost episode.
@@morgantrias3103 yeah. It’s lost to me too. Actually I think everything I did at Ideaworks is lost to time :( the more I try and remember (I’m old!), I think the builds I have are for Windows CE circa 2006. The engine worked on pretty much everything, so those builds were just for my device. The Java version was built from the ground up. From what I remember it was one of the ‘impossible’ ports that somehow the talented coders made possible!
I remember an asian and me comparing our phones back when I had an iPhone 3GS and he had a Sony Ericson "dumbphone" but actually had more features than the iPhone...
I loved T9 back on my flip phone. I could type so easily without even looking at my phone, you could feel each distinct key it was so much more predictable than touchscreen typing 😅
@@LinRuiEn Indeed. Was a bit of a pain for long SMS, but you could select a record from your phonebook with 2-3 keypresses (depending on how popular you were) without ever looking at anything. If you actually want to use your phone as a phone, the Nokia brick era was much better. A charge lasted for days, I could be out of pocket for weeks on a binge at a rave somewhere in a field and I'd still have a working phone.
Ericsson was never owned by Sony. Ericsson was and still is a massive telecommunications company mainly building infrastructure. Sony-Ericsson was a merger of Sonys and Ericssons mobile phone divisions and Sony later acquired Ericssons shares in the company when the joint brand was abandoned. Ericsson went back to building infrastructure like they've done for the last 150 years.
Okay here me out A travel adventure video where you go to Japan for the sole purpose to get your phone unlocked by Docomo and get side tracked 50 times on the way Just like the MattKC getting that Lego Island
In my country, these Japanese phone were available in early 2000. I had a Sony and NEC brand. Having a 3G phone that did internet, video calls etc way before iphone was some cyberpunk future living. Thanks for the memory unlocking video f4mi
Oh man, never though I'd hear of docomo again. I did the artwork and art directed other artists for a limited edition phone collaboration between Disney and Docomo back in 2014. The phone came out mid 2014 I believe. going through several layers of approval was something quite crazy. I personally did the one with Mickey Mouse coming out through the mirror. It was supposed to refer to a 1930s short where Mickey goes through an alternate world through a looking glass, I have no memory what it's called. Funnily the art featured both the front view and the back view of Mickey. I wish they sent one over to me.
@@ReidvinK Cool, thanks for letting me know that. A few more info on the project, it was a collaboration between my studio at the time and Polygon Pictures. The same studio that did the Blame! anime and Godzilla Earth Series.
There is a video of Micheal MJD talking about these Docomo × Disney cell phones, and one of them was precisely the one with the mirror. I don't know if you've watched it, but I recommend checking it out.
Ah, yes. The pager... one time on 150 mile round trip, the boss sends 'call base' 3 times. Finally I come to highway exit near enough villages to maybe find working callbox. Then I get berated for not calling sooner - they had to send out van #2 to fetch urgent job. No comprehension that I cannot answer calls without finding callbox, after 30 mins search. At that time 1993, only Big Boss Man was supplied with car-installed 'mobile phone' Typing this; spellcheck needs advice on what is: 'callbox'? Why did we ignore Keitai, in the west?
on "why we ignored Keitais in the west": making such a thing in one (1) country where there aren't THAT many companies that must agree on a standard is reasonably doable, doing it in a much bigger space (both physically and market wise) as the US or Europe, is so much more complicated than it is worth. for example, in Italy we had TACS, a 1G cellular network, and only one provider offered it (the state-owned phone company) even after the phone service was no longer a state monopoly, because it was expensive, not many people used it, and it was a de facto monopoly on a thing nobody cared about.
As someone who speaks a tiny bit of japanese it is quite fun to see this "secret" berutomo language and how it works like in the example 0840 is "good morning" because 0 can be "oh", 8 is "hachi", first syllable "ha", 4 is "yon", first syllable "yo", and then another zero for another "oh" to make it longer, because its proper pronounciation is "Ohayō"
Same, these number puns are called goroawase 語呂合わせ they work because Japanese numbers have a bunch of different ways of reading them The main way goes (from 1 to 10) ichi, ni, san, shi, go, roku, nana, hachi, kyuu, jyuu (with 4/shi also being commonly read as 'yon' and 7 nana as 'shichi') if anyone here is a Hatsune Miku fan, this is why she's associated with the number 39 because 3/san can be read as 'mi' (such as in '3 things三つ' mi ttsu) and 9/kyuu can be read as ku inversely, 39 can then be read as 'san kyuu' which is the same as the Japanese pronounciation of the english 'Thank you' (if you've heard any songs that go ichi, ni, thank you! now you know the pun
@@jl8417Miku fan here, yep, I knew the pun around 39 but also, in Initial D, the car of the main character is an AE86 but in the final scene of the series it is shown being overtaken by a GT86 with the plate number being 86-239 aka "Thank you Hachiroku" as an homage to the main car of the main character. There's also all of the MCs in Darlin in the Franxx that are named due to their numerical identification numbers including another gal named Miku after she's the 39.
0:45 I honestly thought it was going to be much more recent, but that's probably because I've used to seeing newer Nokia and other chinese-manufactured Android flip phones.
14106 sounds SO much like a Metal Gear Solid Codec frequency that I did a double-take and searched to see if the series used that specific number. Unfortunately not.
Man, I remember pagers. We had 'pager code' here in the US as well; essentially assigning numbers (sometimes multiple) to letters that were similar enough in shape. There were also text-based pagers (with tiny keyboards on them), but they were exceedingly more expensive for your average high schooler at the time (mostly late 90's). Everything changed with inexpensive Nokia phones and T9 dialing. What is more fascinating to me is how the Japanese keitai is what shaped the Japanese internet. Webpages, even today, are built with the understanding that you are scrolling using a phone screen of this style. Like they didn't even bother moving to 'Web 2.0' however many years ago that was.
Android 5 is Lollipop, not even that old, it's already a fully Art OS, someone should start doing some nice ROM cooking to it, I honestly really like it.
@@すどにむyou say that, but a large percentage of the ones sold in the rest of the world are also made to not be rooted or flashable... But vulnerabilities are found that allow it... I don't think the Japanese are immune to vulnerabilities, The only argument I understand is possibly the smaller demographic having access to the hardware as such the vulnerabilities are less likely to be found or have effort put in for them
I nearly had a heart attack less than a minute in because I guessed "2016" after considering that my own garakei is from 2014 lmfao It's really interesting though, I have a Kyocera garakei made for AU by KDDI, but the only differences I've noticed in the software have been the key used for enabling the touchpad, the style of the main menu screen, and the presence of the alternate layouts on the outer display. Also small note on more modern international Android flip phones, the only one I'm aware of that isn't super locked down (to the point of ADB being useless) and is still being updated is the CAT flip phone. The Samsung Galaxy Folder 2 and LG Wine 2 were both released around 2018 and as a result haven't had any OS updates in a while
cool trick to have up your sleeve, if you always put the area / country code in the contact you are saving, you prevent one of the ways for someone to call you from another phone pretending to be one of your contacts
If you want a modern Android flip phone, get a Cat S22 flip. I believe they run Android 11 and you can buy them unlocked for around $100. I've been tempted to try one as a more durable & pocketable phone for biking.
I believed this too until my Cat S22 came in the mail and it felt so comically huge that I didn't want to be seen in public with it and immediately returned it. Kyocera also makes durable phone for the US market, y'know. Don't know if they have touch screens tho.
In my experience using one, its a bulky cellular with poor performance, poor screen, and terrible out of box t9 support.even with a custom t9 software, I often had to use the touchscreen and tiny soft keyboard in programs that simply didn't recognize the keyboard. Third party dialers being the most annoying. All in all, don't reccomend.
10:00 since you mention sponsorships, NTT been sponsoring Indycar teams since 2012 (and the whole series since 2019) and i bet most people have no idea what they are (myself included prior to this video lol)
As an Albanian (and OG viewer of the channel) I love how you always use Albania of all places to demonstrate a mysterious and far away country: "Look, I can even VPN into Albania!" 😄
Wow, clicked on the video for the phone, clicked the subscribe button for the crazy good video with so much effort to make it and so much nerd love, flipper, gameboy camera, 1337 phone number, beep code... And for the great security advice at the end.
the galaxy folder its basically the same crap but with a more generic samsung rom, i used it until last year when whatsapp got discontinued on android 6.0. i got mine on aliexpress for like 100 dollars. Theres another more recent version but with a different name but its like a "premium" korean version for like $500
Fun fact, Japan was the country with the longest pager service, sold as “pokeberu” or pocket bell at early 60’s till October 1st 2019, used mainly by contractors, paramedics, police, train drivers and other profesional that need to went at some place mainly on rurally areas, hours ahead the big cities. Many people didn’t supported the situation specially older people at the country side, so there are 3rd party services (around the world too) that maintains alive this particular service
If you want a cool looking modern one, get an au KYY31. It's *severely* more expensive and has no trackpad, but it runs android 10 and looks like a 2045 phone from 2005. It also has a more bearable native typing input, and my fork of TraditionalT9 works correctly on the KYY31 too (as well as SH-01J - don't suffer in typing anymore, f4mi-san ;-)
Isn't this nothing compared to Samsung's China exlusive W series (well up to the W2019)? Like that's the guts of a Galaxy S9 in a flip phone form factor.
i'm in japan but i havent noticed that such "android garake" exists😂 15:00 this scene may look very strange to some japanese, 'cause we havent used usb cables to charge garake-s.
9:26 Same in Spain, even today in the smartphone era we are still calling mobile phones "móviles" because the phones that are tied to the landlines are called "Teléfonos fijos" (Fixes phones) and they were even shortened to "fijos" when mobile phones started to become more accesible and the ones that you can take outside of the home are "Teléfonos móviles" since you can move your phone around and they're not tied to the landline.
I don't know what weird version of Mexico you visited or come from but it's pretty much called "celular" or "teléfono" by the vast majority of people, carriers and stores. "El móvil" is more of a Spain thing
In Germany we call cell phones "Handy" - likely resulting from a mistranslation - which I came to learn the hard way can have a very different meaning in actual english. Also: 17, 36, 28, 17, 48, 48, 17, 16, 88
12:53 I actually had this phone about a decade ago. 007SH it was an amazing phone for the time. I always got comments about it. It ran android, had a touchscreen as well as buttons/keys and was waterproof (which was unusual for western phones at the time. The only downside was the smaller screen and battery (but at least the battery was easily replaceable, I carried a second one in case it ever ran out). Edit: I almost forgot, it also had a 3D screen (like the Nintendo 3DS) and could tad 3D pictures if the subject didn't mave (it only had 1 camera so you would have to do this awkward photo where you had move to the right for it to take a second photo). The 3D screen could also be used to turn on privacy mode where the screen can only be viewed straight on, if you looked at an angle you would just see a weird pattern.
I could tell it was a newer flipphone by virtue of the resolution of the screen for the brief moment I saw it while you were asking us to guess. Font is a good indicator too.
I mean this with all kindness and adoration that you speak in a Slavoj Žižek cadence, with his gesticulations and share his hypnotic passion for whatever you're speaking about.
TempleOS, nice 😉 Also, as a car driver in early 2000' I can say, that writing messages on that keyboard was awesome, if you grow with that keyboard, you was able to type messages without any, ANY errors, much easier that today, if you have only one hand and you can't look in to display, muscle memory baby 😁😁 (nothing personal to anyone)... I start with Siermens C35 phone, then of course not a Nokia 3310 but 6210, yeah I was king in school, with that phone... Rest is history of course, Symbians and Androids... etc etc... Never Iphone 🤢🤢🤮🤮😜😜😜
If it can connect to wifi and has Microsoft Teams sign me up! My work wants me to add Teams to my phone, and I’d rather have a separate device for that.
If you're on Android, Insular and Shelter in F-Droid might be a good substitute. They both abuse the Android work profile feature, allowing you to keep those apps separate and put them to sleep at will.
you can go with CAT S22 Flip, or gone bankrupt with Mode1 Retro II and Samsung W2019. Both of them running on modern version of Android (Android 10 for W2019, Android 11 Go for CAT, Android 13 for Mode1). Anyway, most of these Android-based flip phones has Wi-Fi and 4G, so you don't have to worry about connections.
This time its an actual ad! And the effort you put into that ad is beyond anything anyone else probably even thought of! With that said, im amazed at the effort you put into every, single, video! Super entertaining and funny!
oh! i remember these! there were called cellphones. they were used for placing and receiving phone calls over cellular networks. before they were replaced with spying and tracking devices
It's so cool that Keitais are being kept alive even to this day. I recently got myself a Mode1 Retro 2, a flip phone that runs goddamn Android 13 and came out in 2023. That's how big the market for these things still is in Japan.
I always find it so funny to see these younger people try and explain tech that they weren't around for. Pagers/beepers weren't used by "poor" people that couldn't afford cell phones. They were used due to cell phones not really existing at that point in time. The ones that did exist were used by the super rich/elite and they either had a huge box phone (ex. Zach from Saved by the Bell Cell Phone) or they had one installed in their car (which was still wired but technically "portable" in a way). The first beepers were made in the 1920's and used by the police department(s). However, they didn't start being widely used by the public until the 1980's. Later on, as cell phones became cheaper and more widely used by the public the only people who really still used pagers were Dr's, white collar workers, drug dealers and teenagers. It was around this time when the "clear/colored shells" were coming out. I remember having a Nokia 3310 AKA the "Nokia Brick" and everyone was modding them to have clear cases with LED lights in them when your phone would ring. Anyways, this is what it was what the timeline was like in America. It may have been a little different in Japan. ps - What accent is that you have? Sounds like a mix of different things
There actually are kind of similar phones still being developed and sold all over the world. These are usually marked as feature phones or smart feature phones. One popular operating system for them is called kai OS. They are not Japanese and should work anywhere with 4G. They often come pre-installed with apps like WhatsApp and Facebook.
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In the 90s, beepers were used by business people, emergency workers, rich teenagers, and drug dealers.
today they were (emphasis WERE) used by known terrorist groups :^)
@@ForelliBoy and giving them a free surgery as well! such a kind device
@@healspringy6300van damme approve this lol (look for movie called knock off)
@@ForelliBoy not to mention random civilians, interestingly those still blew up
@@wariowarecomix a bit too literal 💀
"68, 26, 26, 19, 46, 16, 57, 36, 48, 88" translates from beeper (using the card at 6:45) to WEEDMARIO❤
WEEDMARIO, my beloved
oh i thought that was my sleeper agent code.
@@Nokia2k03it isn't?
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Yes. I know it is spelled J2ME and not Y2ME. I just had some sort of brain fart and I can't reupload the video for music licensing/sponsor reasons so pretend that was done on purpose let's just lampshade it ok that was totally planned and I am super cunning etc etc etc
It is also just like in the last seconds of the video come on we can let it be for once we are all humans (after all) etc etc etc
ALSO: 68, 26, 26, 19, 46, 16, 57, 36, 48, 88
EDIT: i also misread scrcpy as scrcpi but in my defense i have been tinkering with a pi zero w2 for the whole week so i kept thinking about it lmao
isn't it "scrcpy" as in "SCReen CoPY" though?
@@HiLordReilo yeah i made yet another typo
at least you know it's me here and not some llm abomination qeogihjewghwe thanks for the correction
decoded:
*WEEDMARIO♡*
captions say "school emoji" instead of skull emoji
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We germans call cellphones "Handy".
So a german might say: "I am upset. I didn't watch my pocket in the public bathroom and ended up with a wet Handy!"
Sometimes I wish I'd ended up with a wet handy... 🙃
As a German, this is so true
Ein Deutscher hier haha.
Yes indeed Handy s were indeed a funny time to be in.
Den Begriff haben die Schwaben erfunden, mit dem erstaunten Ausspruch: "Hen die koi Schnur?"
Wie geil 😂
My grandfather was one of the Americans who built the telephone infrastructure in Japsn. It was "ma" Bell, not AT&T.
omg that's so cool
thanks for the correction, put a heart on the comment so people can see it easy aaa
Don't tell me what not to do
real
You are not my Keitai supervisor! 🗯️
Fun fact: the Japanese cell phone situation in 1997 is why the menu item in Final Fantasy VII to swap party members is called "PHS"
I was wondering too if when she mentioned EX, is that where pokemon tcg get's their EX from? Lol
"Beepers" are mostly called "Pagers".
Very interesting video, thanks!
Edit: hot take: this phone has more character and actual features than 99% of current day android/apple phones.
Display on the back?
physical buttons (visually impaired people are not left out? wow.)
buttons can act as a touchpad? cool?
yeah i have also heard them called "bleepers" the apparently have a lot of names but i decided to just use one to avoid any confusion haha
Aren't pagers also text-capable? Not sure about this, trying to remember these devices from US movies, I don't think we've even had this technology in PL back then 😆
@@BartekSzzz They can be text-capable, but not all of them were, support varied depending on carrier and text models were more expensive.
@@BartekSzzzsome later models were, I had a Motorola pager that supported something like 50 characters. Before that we had number codes we would send instead, like 3165 (cafe) was a special friend meet at a special coffee shop, and 801 (ho-one) was meet the friend at his home instead.
I mean phones only had „character“ until 2019 anyway
i had an insane obsession with hunting for a keitai earlier this year/late last year; i have a whole notesheet of phones that work with my carrier, and i did extensive research. ended up going with a Mode I Retro II in white; plan to switch to it when my iphone 13 croaks, runs android 13 and has a touch screen. absolutely insane!! got the T9 working and everything as well, made my own charm and its such a fun and efficient phone. the microphone on it sounds better than my iphone ;w;. was looking into a kyocera digno 902kc but kept having secondary thoughts on the cursor functionality. im so glad to see keitais getting more recognition, they're so fun and surprisingly some are functional in the US (heavily dependent on what bands they use though) which is so cool.
very cool
hey do you have any issues with it? I heard it has some quality issues but maybe they fixed it i don't really know? I'm considering this device to buy
@Danyiaha i bought mine secondhand, so i am not sure whats a factory issue and whats not; but from what ive used of it, my main issue (again, secondhand but in really good condition) is it has a bit of a double press issue on one key (8) and its mildly annoying but that may also be due to my t9 app i use to allow the keyboard to function the way i want :p. i havent used it exclusively for sim related messaging, however, instagram, discord, google voice (lack of sim due to it still being in my iphone 13), and any more recent apps work as well, and some have really nice functionality with the arrow keys too!! i would double and triple check before taking the plunge though, to make sure your location has the bands required to connect to signal on the phone incase you ever need it.
That number thing was in Yakuza 0.
That’s the only reason I knew about it lol
That makes a lot of sense 😂
YOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHI
Pager?
It's part of the internet speak. If Japanese username has numbers in it, there is a good chance it actually spells something phonetically.
seeing this pop up in my inbox while spending the past week considering which keitai to get for myself. this is serendipity
Not all of them are compatible with American 4 and 5g signals, unfortunately. I've been using my Cat S22 for about a year though
@@Hypnotically_Caucasian this!!! and also some docomo keitais have wifi too!!!
Awesome video. Love the editing, you almost seem like you are presenting with a modern day perspective but with a period accurate aesthetic when you talk about about the beepers and early cell phones
9:59 The last thing I expected from this video was to see Fernando Alonso. Peak
Qué grande eres Magic!
I love that rookie ❤
The GOAT!
Fun fact what you said about french people saying "le portable" is true (also you didn't butcher it, it was perfect), however this is only true for french people, not all french *talking* people will say that.
I know that people in belgium, canada or switzerland say it differently (such as "cellulaire", "natel", etc)
We call it "portable" in Morocco too, in Arabic as well.
I am in Québec and you are correct that we say "cellulaire".
In Italy, sometimes we call it the "Cellulare"
In belgian french it's GSM (from the network standard)
@@Hugobros3 ah yeah I knew I was missing the Belgian one but couldn't remember what it was (also TIL for people in Morocco and Italy)
she keitai on my ntt till i docomo
5:09 that sound effect aged poorly LOL
The TZ803A you're showing at 3:49 is actually a shoulder carried phone, though a car phone model was one of the first models initially offered with the network.
Car Phones had actually existed in the world prior to cell phone networks since about the late 40s to the 50s. They basically worked as a radio-based version of normal telephone systems. Most car phones going into the cell-phone era of the mid to late 80s likely still used a true car phone type service to call land lines, rather than a cell phone network. If you've seen someone in a movie talk on a car phone in the 70s to the 90s, it's likely they're not using any sort of cell network, even in Japan, but likely some sort of radio-based telephony.
Also, the initial 1G network NTT made only covered metropolitan Tokyo; it took until the mid 80s for Japan to finally achieve the first nationwide cell service network (though how true this is I wonder, mostly because there are still remote areas of Japan with service issues where citizens claim they've never had phone lines or electricity, let alone cell service). It's important to remember as well that since almost all the "1G" networks used analog radio frequencies, and that there were many, while Japan pushed to create the first, they didn't really develop the idea of a cellphone or cellular telephony; the idea was being worked on for decades by many, many companies, with prototype networks and devices being setup and used even prior to NTT. It's just that NTT had the first commercial one. First to market, important, of course, but given that might have only really made sense given the financial bubble that was forming; we had a lot of computer technology develop here in the US in the 90s related to the internet specifically because of the dotcom bubble that was forming. Something to think about.
1:20 I know you're mainland European but if I didn't know beforehand, I'd think that "to make sure they're not currently being stabbed" line is peak Winnipeg and/or British brainrot right there.
I'm sure parents the wolrd over have a primal instinct to check their kids for stab wounds every 10 minutes when they leave the house.
thinking the stabbing is confined to the british isles? oh my sweet summer child, if only you knew how bad things really are.
Mario smoking a weed in the thumbnail, it's already a banger
Changed thumbnail? :(
@@f5203No it's still there
Great video. In 2005-2006 I was making games for the Japanese phone market. Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus - Lost Episode was the main one. It was a fascinating time. I remember having a particularly ‘interesting’ meeting at the DoCoMo HQ where 30 salarymen stared at us while a guy from Square Enix screamed at them :)
uhhh, do you happen to still have access to that game? i think it's a lost media thing now, that or it's some other square/final fantasy j2me featurephone game which you might have or know of a way to recover it, but yeah, pretty sure i know of some people who are looking for it
@ I think I only have a dev build that ran on PC. But the last time I tried to run it I didn’t have the tools / engine exe. It’s a shame because I have a bunch of demos we did for a pitch for Sonic and DMC for mobile. This is all pre-iPhone. The J2ME version was a total pain to develop. The reason SE were going crazy at DoCoMo was because they wouldn’t let native apps run on the phone. I think the main customer for it was KDDI.
Damnnnnn you're a celebrity to me I was so passively hoping that game would get ported to something my british ass knew about, as a kid. truly lost episode.
@@morgantrias3103 yeah. It’s lost to me too. Actually I think everything I did at Ideaworks is lost to time :( the more I try and remember (I’m old!), I think the builds I have are for Windows CE circa 2006. The engine worked on pretty much everything, so those builds were just for my device. The Java version was built from the ground up. From what I remember it was one of the ‘impossible’ ports that somehow the talented coders made possible!
Hey, id like a chat with you, im a preservationist of docomo games and you caught my eye
I remember an asian and me comparing our phones back when I had an iPhone 3GS and he had a Sony Ericson "dumbphone" but actually had more features than the iPhone...
That phone flick was so badass
Seeing a zoomer discover T9 typing is so pure
I was laaate into the cellphone game, but just around 3-4 years before the smartphones, and T9 dialing was awesome!
I loved T9 back on my flip phone. I could type so easily without even looking at my phone, you could feel each distinct key it was so much more predictable than touchscreen typing 😅
@@LinRuiEn Indeed. Was a bit of a pain for long SMS, but you could select a record from your phonebook with 2-3 keypresses (depending on how popular you were) without ever looking at anything. If you actually want to use your phone as a phone, the Nokia brick era was much better. A charge lasted for days, I could be out of pocket for weeks on a binge at a rave somewhere in a field and I'd still have a working phone.
TIL ericson wasn’t owned by Sony from the start. I remember the days of walkman phones, they felt so far ahead of the competition
I remember seeing an ad for them back then. man I am getting old
Ericsson was never owned by Sony. Ericsson was and still is a massive telecommunications company mainly building infrastructure. Sony-Ericsson was a merger of Sonys and Ericssons mobile phone divisions and Sony later acquired Ericssons shares in the company when the joint brand was abandoned. Ericsson went back to building infrastructure like they've done for the last 150 years.
Okay here me out
A travel adventure video where you go to Japan for the sole purpose to get your phone unlocked by Docomo and get side tracked 50 times on the way
Just like the MattKC getting that Lego Island
Point & Click?
You mean like f4mi measuring King Kong's balls?
Reminds me of Nick Robinson
@@felixargyle5424 "And so, I fly to Japan"
In my country, these Japanese phone were available in early 2000. I had a Sony and NEC brand. Having a 3G phone that did internet, video calls etc way before iphone was some cyberpunk future living. Thanks for the memory unlocking video f4mi
where are you from?
Yeah, i had a NEC phone and videocalls in Italy in 2003
@@Wrynard japan of course
@@lvl90dru1d bruh
Love the formatting of this video. Feels like I’m watching some old YT content from the 2000s or a PBS documentary of some sort.
Oh man, never though I'd hear of docomo again. I did the artwork and art directed other artists for a limited edition phone collaboration between Disney and Docomo back in 2014. The phone came out mid 2014 I believe. going through several layers of approval was something quite crazy. I personally did the one with Mickey Mouse coming out through the mirror. It was supposed to refer to a 1930s short where Mickey goes through an alternate world through a looking glass, I have no memory what it's called. Funnily the art featured both the front view and the back view of Mickey. I wish they sent one over to me.
That makes me think of Epic Mickey, that was a great game for me on the Wii.
a quick search indicates it was probably the SH-05F
@@ReidvinK Cool, thanks for letting me know that. A few more info on the project, it was a collaboration between my studio at the time and Polygon Pictures. The same studio that did the Blame! anime and Godzilla Earth Series.
There is a video of Micheal MJD talking about these Docomo × Disney cell phones, and one of them was precisely the one with the mirror. I don't know if you've watched it, but I recommend checking it out.
i love peculiar little deep dives like this. thank you fami
Ah, yes. The pager... one time on 150 mile round trip, the boss sends 'call base' 3 times. Finally I come to highway exit near enough villages to maybe find working callbox. Then I get berated for not calling sooner - they had to send out van #2 to fetch urgent job. No comprehension that I cannot answer calls without finding callbox, after 30 mins search. At that time 1993, only Big Boss Man was supplied with car-installed 'mobile phone' Typing this; spellcheck needs advice on what is: 'callbox'? Why did we ignore Keitai, in the west?
on "why we ignored Keitais in the west":
making such a thing in one (1) country where there aren't THAT many companies that must agree on a standard is reasonably doable, doing it in a much bigger space (both physically and market wise) as the US or Europe, is so much more complicated than it is worth.
for example, in Italy we had TACS, a 1G cellular network, and only one provider offered it (the state-owned phone company) even after the phone service was no longer a state monopoly, because it was expensive, not many people used it, and it was a de facto monopoly on a thing nobody cared about.
As someone who speaks a tiny bit of japanese it is quite fun to see this "secret" berutomo language and how it works
like in the example 0840 is "good morning" because 0 can be "oh", 8 is "hachi", first syllable "ha", 4 is "yon", first syllable "yo", and then another zero for another "oh" to make it longer, because its proper pronounciation is "Ohayō"
Same, these number puns are called goroawase 語呂合わせ
they work because Japanese numbers have a bunch of different ways of reading them
The main way goes (from 1 to 10)
ichi, ni, san, shi, go, roku, nana, hachi, kyuu, jyuu
(with 4/shi also being commonly read as 'yon' and 7 nana as 'shichi')
if anyone here is a Hatsune Miku fan, this is why she's associated with the number 39
because 3/san can be read as 'mi' (such as in '3 things三つ' mi ttsu)
and 9/kyuu can be read as ku
inversely, 39 can then be read as 'san kyuu' which is the same as the Japanese pronounciation of the english 'Thank you'
(if you've heard any songs that go ichi, ni, thank you! now you know the pun
Just wait for the Gen alphas
@@jl8417Miku fan here, yep, I knew the pun around 39 but also, in Initial D, the car of the main character is an AE86 but in the final scene of the series it is shown being overtaken by a GT86 with the plate number being 86-239 aka "Thank you Hachiroku" as an homage to the main car of the main character. There's also all of the MCs in Darlin in the Franxx that are named due to their numerical identification numbers including another gal named Miku after she's the 39.
0:45 I honestly thought it was going to be much more recent, but that's probably because I've used to seeing newer Nokia and other chinese-manufactured Android flip phones.
i got a hungry jacks ad on this video telling me to refresh my summer with a drink
it's december and hungry jacks is not even thing here 💀
14106 sounds SO much like a Metal Gear Solid Codec frequency that I did a double-take and searched to see if the series used that specific number. Unfortunately not.
iMode was a thing in the Netherlands. The main telecom provider launched it very big in the 00’s. They had some cool phones
.... is that a pink guy song playing in the background? 00:11
i just figured out the exact song... damn, you went WAY back into his discography.
Erectile dysfunction rap is a real hood classic.
erectile dysfunction beat 🙏🙏🙏
the production quality of these vids is so amazing now lmao
6:56 WAS THAT A SCOTT THE WOZ REFERENCE!?!?!
Been obsessed by these kinds of phones since i browsed ebay a while back, great vid !
Man, I remember pagers. We had 'pager code' here in the US as well; essentially assigning numbers (sometimes multiple) to letters that were similar enough in shape. There were also text-based pagers (with tiny keyboards on them), but they were exceedingly more expensive for your average high schooler at the time (mostly late 90's). Everything changed with inexpensive Nokia phones and T9 dialing.
What is more fascinating to me is how the Japanese keitai is what shaped the Japanese internet. Webpages, even today, are built with the understanding that you are scrolling using a phone screen of this style. Like they didn't even bother moving to 'Web 2.0' however many years ago that was.
2:36 "No thanks, Truman"
Wew, I wasn't ready for that
Android 5 is Lollipop, not even that old, it's already a fully Art OS, someone should start doing some nice ROM cooking to it, I honestly really like it.
Very few of Japanese phones are actually rootable and/or flashable, you'd be surprised
Android 5 is 9? 10? years old
@@すどにむ Maybe enthusiast didn't try enough...
Also, I've had 2 Sonys, both rooted, so that doesn't sound right.
@@YOEL_44 Xperia phones are sold outside and some designed outside so it's different story
@@すどにむyou say that, but a large percentage of the ones sold in the rest of the world are also made to not be rooted or flashable... But vulnerabilities are found that allow it... I don't think the Japanese are immune to vulnerabilities,
The only argument I understand is possibly the smaller demographic having access to the hardware as such the vulnerabilities are less likely to be found or have effort put in for them
I nearly had a heart attack less than a minute in because I guessed "2016" after considering that my own garakei is from 2014 lmfao
It's really interesting though, I have a Kyocera garakei made for AU by KDDI, but the only differences I've noticed in the software have been the key used for enabling the touchpad, the style of the main menu screen, and the presence of the alternate layouts on the outer display.
Also small note on more modern international Android flip phones, the only one I'm aware of that isn't super locked down (to the point of ADB being useless) and is still being updated is the CAT flip phone. The Samsung Galaxy Folder 2 and LG Wine 2 were both released around 2018 and as a result haven't had any OS updates in a while
came for flippy phone that goes up and down
stayed for the petscop font in the credits
9:59 Fernando Alonso mentioned rahhhhh🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
OHHHH FERNANDO ALONSO 🗣🗣🔥🔥
cool trick to have up your sleeve, if you always put the area / country code in the contact you are saving, you prevent one of the ways for someone to call you from another phone pretending to be one of your contacts
hey this is the first video of yours I've seen and its very well done! the vibes are immaculate. thank you for the history lesson!
If you want a modern Android flip phone, get a Cat S22 flip. I believe they run Android 11 and you can buy them unlocked for around $100. I've been tempted to try one as a more durable & pocketable phone for biking.
I believed this too until my Cat S22 came in the mail and it felt so comically huge that I didn't want to be seen in public with it and immediately returned it.
Kyocera also makes durable phone for the US market, y'know. Don't know if they have touch screens tho.
@@inanestereo the flip phones don't.
In my experience using one, its a bulky cellular with poor performance, poor screen, and terrible out of box t9 support.even with a custom t9 software, I often had to use the touchscreen and tiny soft keyboard in programs that simply didn't recognize the keyboard. Third party dialers being the most annoying.
All in all, don't reccomend.
@@kainhumphries well thanks for the input! Was hopeful to try it as a rugged semi smart phone but sounds like my hopes were too high for it.
fami production quality been goated
i fuck so hard with the f4mi cinematic universe
10:00 since you mention sponsorships, NTT been sponsoring Indycar teams since 2012 (and the whole series since 2019) and i bet most people have no idea what they are (myself included prior to this video lol)
10:00 i remember watching FF: Tokio Drift and seeing people streaming the races over the phone, it was wild
0:55 that applied to Japanese cars too. Like AE 86, BNR something something like that
17:00 ROMANIA MENTIONED romania is canon in f4mi universe
DA
Didn’t expect to see a meme about Romania here. 😂😂
Romania country code dialled +40
@@celebraces2 OH WOW I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT :))))) (I think it's actually +401 for Rhode Island but it's still not a real number anyways)
One of the real Latins, could be.
I wish I was born in Japan cuz the technology there is both nostalgic and futuristic at the same time
As an Albanian (and OG viewer of the channel) I love how you always use Albania of all places to demonstrate a mysterious and far away country: "Look, I can even VPN into Albania!" 😄
Wow, clicked on the video for the phone, clicked the subscribe button for the crazy good video with so much effort to make it and so much nerd love, flipper, gameboy camera, 1337 phone number, beep code... And for the great security advice at the end.
The ending translation: wed mario ❤️
Nintendo pls dont sue me
now this is a werid code
I have been DYING for a competent video on this. It's such a confusing and up in the air process to get one of these working and I want one so bad
0:12 love the filthy frank music
What do you mean?
AccountHolder-c5e filthy frank made that music for his videos, i think shes kind of a filthy frank fan girrl (￣▽￣)
@@home1star who is "filthy Frank"😅
3.4 inches at 960x540 equals 324PPI which IS "retina" and in fact, some apple retina displays are as low as 220PPI in terms of density.
omg they did it
the galaxy folder its basically the same crap but with a more generic samsung rom, i used it until last year when whatsapp got discontinued on android 6.0. i got mine on aliexpress for like 100 dollars. Theres another more recent version but with a different name but its like a "premium" korean version for like $500
Fun fact, Japan was the country with the longest pager service, sold as “pokeberu” or pocket bell at early 60’s till October 1st 2019, used mainly by contractors, paramedics, police, train drivers and other profesional that need to went at some place mainly on rurally areas, hours ahead the big cities. Many people didn’t supported the situation specially older people at the country side, so there are 3rd party services (around the world too) that maintains alive this particular service
If you want a cool looking modern one, get an au KYY31. It's *severely* more expensive and has no trackpad, but it runs android 10 and looks like a 2045 phone from 2005. It also has a more bearable native typing input, and my fork of TraditionalT9 works correctly on the KYY31 too (as well as SH-01J - don't suffer in typing anymore, f4mi-san ;-)
I always get exited when I see a 4:3 video because I use a CRT monitor as my main monitor 😅.
Isn't this nothing compared to Samsung's China exlusive W series (well up to the W2019)? Like that's the guts of a Galaxy S9 in a flip phone form factor.
i'm in japan but i havent noticed that such "android garake" exists😂 15:00 this scene may look very strange to some japanese, 'cause we havent used usb cables to charge garake-s.
So this is the "hentai" that my cousin talks about
9:26 Same in Spain, even today in the smartphone era we are still calling mobile phones "móviles" because the phones that are tied to the landlines are called "Teléfonos fijos" (Fixes phones) and they were even shortened to "fijos" when mobile phones started to become more accesible and the ones that you can take outside of the home are "Teléfonos móviles" since you can move your phone around and they're not tied to the landline.
En México they call their cell phone “El Móvil” because it comes from the American phrase “Mobile Phone”
And yet the Americans call them cell phones these days...
In the Dominican Republic we use the word Celular instead of movil
In Mexico we actually use the term “celular”.
I don't know what weird version of Mexico you visited or come from but it's pretty much called "celular" or "teléfono" by the vast majority of people, carriers and stores.
"El móvil" is more of a Spain thing
Don't lie, nobody says "el móvil" in México.
In Germany we call cell phones "Handy" - likely resulting from a mistranslation - which I came to learn the hard way can have a very different meaning in actual english.
Also: 17, 36, 28, 17, 48, 48, 17, 16, 88
I love the 4:3 aspect ratio :)
We also had some kind of fake cell phone in France called Bi-Bop in 1991-97
9:26 It's fine lol
France, underrated tech inventions country of the late 20th century :)
Not to mention Le Minitel, our precursor to internet :)
12:53 I actually had this phone about a decade ago. 007SH it was an amazing phone for the time. I always got comments about it. It ran android, had a touchscreen as well as buttons/keys and was waterproof (which was unusual for western phones at the time. The only downside was the smaller screen and battery (but at least the battery was easily replaceable, I carried a second one in case it ever ran out).
Edit: I almost forgot, it also had a 3D screen (like the Nintendo 3DS) and could tad 3D pictures if the subject didn't mave (it only had 1 camera so you would have to do this awkward photo where you had move to the right for it to take a second photo). The 3D screen could also be used to turn on privacy mode where the screen can only be viewed straight on, if you looked at an angle you would just see a weird pattern.
You forgot to mention the most important feature of the PHS, which is the ability to switch around your party members at save points.
I could tell it was a newer flipphone by virtue of the resolution of the screen for the brief moment I saw it while you were asking us to guess. Font is a good indicator too.
I'm scared of where I'm going mentally because I had to replay at 6:55 multiple times to realize you weren't saying "Ohio"
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I mean this with all kindness and adoration that you speak in a Slavoj Žižek cadence, with his gesticulations and share his hypnotic passion for whatever you're speaking about.
we fresh wtf
I just noticed your portal tattoo, and it looks pretty cool.
SHE POSTED WOOOOO
My favorite time traveler stuck in 2007 posted again
I literally said "2007" one second before you did I am _dying_ laughing
*dying*
TempleOS, nice 😉
Also, as a car driver in early 2000' I can say, that writing messages on that keyboard was awesome, if you grow with that keyboard, you was able to type messages without any, ANY errors, much easier that today, if you have only one hand and you can't look in to display, muscle memory baby 😁😁 (nothing personal to anyone)... I start with Siermens C35 phone, then of course not a Nokia 3310 but 6210, yeah I was king in school, with that phone... Rest is history of course, Symbians and Androids... etc etc... Never Iphone 🤢🤢🤮🤮😜😜😜
WEEDMARIO♥️
You beat me to it.
That was a cool ass phone flick. Looked like you were about to try to summon a digimon or some super sentai transformation
If it can connect to wifi and has Microsoft Teams sign me up! My work wants me to add Teams to my phone, and I’d rather have a separate device for that.
If you're on Android, Insular and Shelter in F-Droid might be a good substitute. They both abuse the Android work profile feature, allowing you to keep those apps separate and put them to sleep at will.
you can go with CAT S22 Flip, or gone bankrupt with Mode1 Retro II and Samsung W2019. Both of them running on modern version of Android (Android 10 for W2019, Android 11 Go for CAT, Android 13 for Mode1).
Anyway, most of these Android-based flip phones has Wi-Fi and 4G, so you don't have to worry about connections.
This time its an actual ad! And the effort you put into that ad is beyond anything anyone else probably even thought of! With that said, im amazed at the effort you put into every, single, video! Super entertaining and funny!
oh! i remember these! there were called cellphones. they were used for placing and receiving phone calls over cellular networks.
before they were replaced with spying and tracking devices
as felow french viewer, your "le portable" pronunciation was totally fine and this is still how we call smartphone nowadays x)
weedmario♡
Everything about the editing here is pure fantastic and how the color grading and look is changed in this documentary :D
I like it !
this new narrative structure goes crazy with the sketches!
It's so cool that Keitais are being kept alive even to this day. I recently got myself a Mode1 Retro 2, a flip phone that runs goddamn Android 13 and came out in 2023. That's how big the market for these things still is in Japan.
I always find it so funny to see these younger people try and explain tech that they weren't around for. Pagers/beepers weren't used by "poor" people that couldn't afford cell phones. They were used due to cell phones not really existing at that point in time. The ones that did exist were used by the super rich/elite and they either had a huge box phone (ex. Zach from Saved by the Bell Cell Phone) or they had one installed in their car (which was still wired but technically "portable" in a way). The first beepers were made in the 1920's and used by the police department(s). However, they didn't start being widely used by the public until the 1980's. Later on, as cell phones became cheaper and more widely used by the public the only people who really still used pagers were Dr's, white collar workers, drug dealers and teenagers. It was around this time when the "clear/colored shells" were coming out. I remember having a Nokia 3310 AKA the "Nokia Brick" and everyone was modding them to have clear cases with LED lights in them when your phone would ring. Anyways, this is what it was what the timeline was like in America. It may have been a little different in Japan.
ps - What accent is that you have? Sounds like a mix of different things
A 20 minute video about a pice o tech I never heard about, just what I needed :)
I would totally use an updated version of this for the western market, that solution of transforming the keypad into a touchpad is genius
There actually are kind of similar phones still being developed and sold all over the world. These are usually marked as feature phones or smart feature phones. One popular operating system for them is called kai OS. They are not Japanese and should work anywhere with 4G. They often come pre-installed with apps like WhatsApp and Facebook.
Nothing like the nostalgia I get for times I never lived through. Nice video.