Yes. I know it is spelled J2ME and not Y2ME. I just had some sort of brain fart and I can't reupload the video for music licensing/sponsor reasons so pretend that was done on purpose let's just lampshade it ok that was totally planned and I am super cunning etc etc etc It is also just like in the last seconds of the video come on we can let it be for once we are all humans (after all) etc etc etc ALSO: 68, 26, 26, 19, 46, 16, 57, 36, 48, 88 EDIT: i also misread scrcpy as scrcpi but in my defense i have been tinkering with a pi zero w2 for the whole week so i kept thinking about it lmao
We germans call cellphones "Handy". So a german might say: "I am upset. I didn't watch my pocket in the public bathroom and ended up with a wet Handy!"
i had an insane obsession with hunting for a keitai earlier this year/late last year; i have a whole notesheet of phones that work with my carrier, and i did extensive research. ended up going with a Mode I Retro II in white; plan to switch to it when my iphone 13 croaks, runs android 13 and has a touch screen. absolutely insane!! got the T9 working and everything as well, made my own charm and its such a fun and efficient phone. the microphone on it sounds better than my iphone ;w;. was looking into a kyocera digno 902kc but kept having secondary thoughts on the cursor functionality. im so glad to see keitais getting more recognition, they're so fun and surprisingly some are functional in the US (heavily dependent on what bands they use though) which is so cool.
"Beepers" are mostly called "Pagers". Very interesting video, thanks! Edit: hot take: this phone has more character and actual features than 99% of current day android/apple phones. Display on the back? physical buttons (visually impaired people are not left out? wow.) buttons can act as a touchpad? cool?
Aren't pagers also text-capable? Not sure about this, trying to remember these devices from US movies, I don't think we've even had this technology in PL back then 😆
@@BartekSzzzsome later models were, I had a Motorola pager that supported something like 50 characters. Before that we had number codes we would send instead, like 3165 (cafe) was a special friend meet at a special coffee shop, and 801 (ho-one) was meet the friend at his home instead.
In my country, these Japanese phone were available in early 2000. I had a Sony and NEC brand. Having a 3G phone that did internet, video calls etc way before iphone was some cyberpunk future living. Thanks for the memory unlocking video f4mi
Awesome video. Love the editing, you almost seem like you are presenting with a modern day perspective but with a period accurate aesthetic when you talk about about the beepers and early cell phones
Fun fact what you said about french people saying "le portable" is true (also you didn't butcher it, it was perfect), however this is only true for french people, not all french *talking* people will say that. I know that people in belgium, canada or switzerland say it differently (such as "cellulaire", "natel", etc)
Great video. In 2005-2006 I was making games for the Japanese phone market. Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus - Lost Episode was the main one. It was a fascinating time. I remember having a particularly ‘interesting’ meeting at the DoCoMo HQ where 30 salarymen stared at us while a guy from Square Enix screamed at them :)
uhhh, do you happen to still have access to that game? i think it's a lost media thing now, that or it's some other square/final fantasy j2me featurephone game which you might have or know of a way to recover it, but yeah, pretty sure i know of some people who are looking for it
@ I think I only have a dev build that ran on PC. But the last time I tried to run it I didn’t have the tools / engine exe. It’s a shame because I have a bunch of demos we did for a pitch for Sonic and DMC for mobile. This is all pre-iPhone. The J2ME version was a total pain to develop. The reason SE were going crazy at DoCoMo was because they wouldn’t let native apps run on the phone. I think the main customer for it was KDDI.
Damnnnnn you're a celebrity to me I was so passively hoping that game would get ported to something my british ass knew about, as a kid. truly lost episode.
@@morgantrias3103 yeah. It’s lost to me too. Actually I think everything I did at Ideaworks is lost to time :( the more I try and remember (I’m old!), I think the builds I have are for Windows CE circa 2006. The engine worked on pretty much everything, so those builds were just for my device. The Java version was built from the ground up. From what I remember it was one of the ‘impossible’ ports that somehow the talented coders made possible!
Okay here me out A travel adventure video where you go to Japan for the sole purpose to get your phone unlocked by Docomo and get side tracked 50 times on the way Just like the MattKC getting that Lego Island
1:20 I know you're mainland European but if I didn't know beforehand, I'd think that "to make sure they're not currently being stabbed" line is peak Winnipeg and/or British brainrot right there.
Ah, yes. The pager... one time on 150 mile round trip, the boss sends 'call base' 3 times. Finally I come to highway exit near enough villages to maybe find working callbox. Then I get berated for not calling sooner - they had to send out van #2 to fetch urgent job. No comprehension that I cannot answer calls without finding callbox, after 30 mins search. At that time 1993, only Big Boss Man was supplied with car-installed 'mobile phone' Typing this; spellcheck needs advice on what is: 'callbox'? Why did we ignore Keitai, in the west?
Oh man, never though I'd hear of docomo again. I did the artwork and art directed other artists for a limited edition phone collaboration between Disney and Docomo back in 2014. The phone came out mid 2014 I believe. going through several layers of approval was something quite crazy. I personally did the one with Mickey Mouse coming out through the mirror. It was supposed to refer to a 1930s short where Mickey goes through an alternate world through a looking glass, I have no memory what it's called. Funnily the art featured both the front view and the back view of Mickey. I wish they sent one over to me.
@@ReidvinK Cool, thanks for letting me know that. A few more info on the project, it was a collaboration between my studio at the time and Polygon Pictures. The same studio that did the Blame! anime and Godzilla Earth Series.
There is a video of Micheal MJD talking about these Docomo × Disney cell phones, and one of them was precisely the one with the mirror. I don't know if you've watched it, but I recommend checking it out.
14106 sounds SO much like a Metal Gear Solid Codec frequency that I did a double-take and searched to see if the series used that specific number. Unfortunately not.
I remember an asian and me comparing our phones back when I had an iPhone 3GS and he had a Sony Ericson "dumbphone" but actually had more features than the iPhone...
If you want a modern Android flip phone, get a Cat S22 flip. I believe they run Android 11 and you can buy them unlocked for around $100. I've been tempted to try one as a more durable & pocketable phone for biking.
I believed this too until my Cat S22 came in the mail and it felt so comically huge that I didn't want to be seen in public with it and immediately returned it. Kyocera also makes durable phone for the US market, y'know. Don't know if they have touch screens tho.
cool trick to have up your sleeve, if you always put the area / country code in the contact you are saving, you prevent one of the ways for someone to call you from another phone pretending to be one of your contacts
Man, I remember pagers. We had 'pager code' here in the US as well; essentially assigning numbers (sometimes multiple) to letters that were similar enough in shape. There were also text-based pagers (with tiny keyboards on them), but they were exceedingly more expensive for your average high schooler at the time (mostly late 90's). Everything changed with inexpensive Nokia phones and T9 dialing. What is more fascinating to me is how the Japanese keitai is what shaped the Japanese internet. Webpages, even today, are built with the understanding that you are scrolling using a phone screen of this style. Like they didn't even bother moving to 'Web 2.0' however many years ago that was.
0:45 I honestly thought it was going to be much more recent, but that's probably because I've used to seeing newer Nokia and other chinese-manufactured Android flip phones.
As someone who speaks a tiny bit of japanese it is quite fun to see this "secret" berutomo language and how it works like in the example 0840 is "good morning" because 0 can be "oh", 8 is "hachi", first syllable "ha", 4 is "yon", first syllable "yo", and then another zero for another "oh" to make it longer, because its proper pronounciation is "Ohayō"
Same, these number puns are called goroawase 語呂合わせ they work because Japanese numbers have a bunch of different ways of reading them The main way goes (from 1 to 10) ichi, ni, san, shi, go, roku, nana, hachi, kyuu, jyuu (with 4/shi also being commonly read as 'yon' and 7 nana as 'shichi') if anyone here is a Hatsune Miku fan, this is why she's associated with the number 39 because 3/san can be read as 'mi' (such as in '3 things三つ' mi ttsu) and 9/kyuu can be read as ku inversely, 39 can then be read as 'san kyuu' which is the same as the Japanese pronounciation of the english 'Thank you' (if you've heard any songs that go ichi, ni, thank you! now you know the pun
@@jl8417Miku fan here, yep, I knew the pun around 39 but also, in Initial D, the car of the main character is an AE86 but in the final scene of the series it is shown being overtaken by a GT86 with the plate number being 86-239 aka "Thank you Hachiroku" as an homage to the main car of the main character. There's also all of the MCs in Darlin in the Franxx that are named due to their numerical identification numbers including another gal named Miku after she's the 39.
Android 5 is Lollipop, not even that old, it's already a fully Art OS, someone should start doing some nice ROM cooking to it, I honestly really like it.
@@すどにむyou say that, but a large percentage of the ones sold in the rest of the world are also made to not be rooted or flashable... But vulnerabilities are found that allow it... I don't think the Japanese are immune to vulnerabilities, The only argument I understand is possibly the smaller demographic having access to the hardware as such the vulnerabilities are less likely to be found or have effort put in for them
10:00 since you mention sponsorships, NTT been sponsoring Indycar teams since 2012 (and the whole series since 2019) and i bet most people have no idea what they are (myself included prior to this video lol)
As an Albanian (and OG viewer of the channel) I love how you always use Albania of all places to demonstrate a mysterious and far away country: "Look, I can even VPN into Albania!" 😄
Isn't this nothing compared to Samsung's China exlusive W series (well up to the W2019)? Like that's the guts of a Galaxy S9 in a flip phone form factor.
9:26 Same in Spain, even today in the smartphone era we are still calling mobile phones "móviles" because the phones that are tied to the landlines are called "Teléfonos fijos" (Fixes phones) and they were even shortened to "fijos" when mobile phones started to become more accesible and the ones that you can take outside of the home are "Teléfonos móviles" since you can move your phone around and they're not tied to the landline.
In Germany we call cell phones "Handy" - likely resulting from a mistranslation - which I came to learn the hard way can have a very different meaning in actual english. Also: 17, 36, 28, 17, 48, 48, 17, 16, 88
24:07: I'm not interested in decoding this but the pattern matches the number of letters in "subscribe" and I hope that anyone that went through the trouble did..... Keep kicking ass out here. Your content is campy and fun! Can't wait to see you hit a million subs.
It's so cool that Keitais are being kept alive even to this day. I recently got myself a Mode1 Retro 2, a flip phone that runs goddamn Android 13 and came out in 2023. That's how big the market for these things still is in Japan.
If you want a cool looking modern one, get an au KYY31. It's *severely* more expensive and has no trackpad, but it runs android 10 and looks like a 2045 phone from 2005. It also has a more bearable native typing input, and my fork of TraditionalT9 works correctly on the KYY31 too (as well as SH-01J - don't suffer in typing anymore, f4mi-san ;-)
Fun fact, Japan was the country with the longest pager service, sold as “pokeberu” or pocket bell at early 60’s till October 1st 2019, used mainly by contractors, paramedics, police, train drivers and other profesional that need to went at some place mainly on rurally areas, hours ahead the big cities. Many people didn’t supported the situation specially older people at the country side, so there are 3rd party services (around the world too) that maintains alive this particular service
I bought a box of random Keitei goodness in 2016, and 6 phones of different eras of JP only tech for phones before and against smartphones was an incredibly fun summer research project. Thanks for the info dive! edit: apologies, but I tuned out halfway through cause you put Gran Turismo OST. I had to replay the video.
I love this channel. I enjoy the deep dive into old tech. It's a great reminder how we achieved so much before today's conveniences and how much we lost over the years.
For those who want one, Kyocera make new old-fashioned Japan-made flip phones like the Dura XA Equip based on Android 13 and continue updating its software every few months. It's a great option that works with pretty much all 4G phone plans in the US and Canada (I used a US to Canada relay service to get mine). I don't know about Europe though.
Damn. Usually YT recommends me crap I won't watch for months or recommends me crap from channels I only watched a small friction of a video of. But now it's the keitais that bring me back to your channel when the last (maybe only?) thing I have seen published by you was the homebrew music vid (that I surely have watched fully) and I watch quite a bit of (especially big N) homebrew content in general? Nice algorithm, YT!
Really confusing segment at the start, foldable phones more than ready for daily use, my ZFlip 3 has been my daily driver for two years, I've dropped it on the ground three times by now, and it has zero cracks, creases, nothing, and that's without any sort of screen protectors... The whole crease thing is just a misconception from people mishandling and not taking care of their phones blaming on the technology for it, and it sucks, because foldable phones are cool as hell and I genuinely recommend anyone getting them, there's something inherently really satisfying about flipping your phone open and shut, at least to me
Good video, congratulations! But as a Flip 5 user since day 1, I can say the "not ready for daily use" is not because of the crease (you will almost never see it). Its way more because of durability issues than anything else.
Interesting facts: 1 - some beepers/pagers (at least in my region) had a full pre-SMS service that we could access dialing to an operator - like the guys in the Matrix movie - to tell a message shorter than people say to be the intimate japanese male parts to they transcribe into text to be shown in the monochromatic LCD of an specific device code hooked that operator service network; 2 - last time i saw someone using just a phone keyboard to write a message was about 15 years ago before smartphones got the whole atention in a matter of phones, but even today type messages this way still kept being possible, despite less intuitive more time consuming, if i want over here - i even need to set some credit card systems that still use it despite having high tech stuff as wifi and a SIM card for mobile data exchange with the bank servers. 3 - back in the day where our phones are just phones and not our whole lives we used to not give a crap about things on it, cause it had our phone number and a contacts list at most. I think this still keep being the intended way to use a "dumbphone", so why bother about so much security for a thing that not even need to be conected with internet? 4 - i don't know how someone on iphones and all Apple stuff can be paranoid about security while using iphones and Apple stuff... 5 - Fami's mom is right: give the lady a couple grandsons!
In the West, although it was not as well known, there was also an attempt to implement a garakei style of phones, this time focused more on older people, such as the Samsung Galaxy Folder, which was basically a South Korean garakei with a western eye
I work for a certain Finnish company that used to make cellphones, being a kid in the pre-iphone world I was amazed at their models and all the things they could do with the limitations of those years it really shaped my interests all the way through today, and tbh my child brain would've imploded if I had learned at that age that Japanese phones were doing far more cool stuff in the early 2000s and kept their uniqueness for a long time
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"68, 26, 26, 19, 46, 16, 57, 36, 48, 88" translates from beeper (using the card at 6:45) to WEEDMARIO❤
WEEDMARIO, my beloved
oh i thought that was my sleeper agent code.
@@Nokia2k03it isn't?
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I would like this comment but it's at exactly 420 likes.
In the 90s, beepers were used by business people, emergency workers, rich teenagers, and drug dealers.
today they were (emphasis WERE) used by known terrorist groups :^)
@@ForelliBoy and giving them a free surgery as well! such a kind device
@@healspringy6300van damme approve this lol (look for movie called knock off)
@@ForelliBoy not to mention random civilians, interestingly those still blew up
@@wariowarecomix a bit too literal 💀
Yes. I know it is spelled J2ME and not Y2ME. I just had some sort of brain fart and I can't reupload the video for music licensing/sponsor reasons so pretend that was done on purpose let's just lampshade it ok that was totally planned and I am super cunning etc etc etc
It is also just like in the last seconds of the video come on we can let it be for once we are all humans (after all) etc etc etc
ALSO: 68, 26, 26, 19, 46, 16, 57, 36, 48, 88
EDIT: i also misread scrcpy as scrcpi but in my defense i have been tinkering with a pi zero w2 for the whole week so i kept thinking about it lmao
isn't it "scrcpy" as in "SCReen CoPY" though?
@@HiLordReilo yeah i made yet another typo
at least you know it's me here and not some llm abomination qeogihjewghwe thanks for the correction
decoded:
*WEEDMARIO♡*
captions say "school emoji" instead of skull emoji
yava
shes hiding off the grid again
We germans call cellphones "Handy".
So a german might say: "I am upset. I didn't watch my pocket in the public bathroom and ended up with a wet Handy!"
Sometimes I wish I'd ended up with a wet handy... 🙃
As a German, this is so true
Ein Deutscher hier haha.
Yes indeed Handy s were indeed a funny time to be in.
Den Begriff haben die Schwaben erfunden, mit dem erstaunten Ausspruch: "Hen die koi Schnur?"
Wie geil 😂
i had an insane obsession with hunting for a keitai earlier this year/late last year; i have a whole notesheet of phones that work with my carrier, and i did extensive research. ended up going with a Mode I Retro II in white; plan to switch to it when my iphone 13 croaks, runs android 13 and has a touch screen. absolutely insane!! got the T9 working and everything as well, made my own charm and its such a fun and efficient phone. the microphone on it sounds better than my iphone ;w;. was looking into a kyocera digno 902kc but kept having secondary thoughts on the cursor functionality. im so glad to see keitais getting more recognition, they're so fun and surprisingly some are functional in the US (heavily dependent on what bands they use though) which is so cool.
Don't tell me what not to do
real
You are not my Keitai supervisor! 🗯️
My grandfather was one of the Americans who built the telephone infrastructure in Japsn. It was "ma" Bell, not AT&T.
omg that's so cool
thanks for the correction, put a heart on the comment so people can see it easy aaa
That number thing was in Yakuza 0.
That’s the only reason I knew about it lol
That makes a lot of sense 😂
YOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHI
Pager?
seeing this pop up in my inbox while spending the past week considering which keitai to get for myself. this is serendipity
Not all of them are compatible with American 4 and 5g signals, unfortunately. I've been using my Cat S22 for about a year though
Seeing a zoomer discover T9 typing is so pure
I was laaate into the cellphone game, but just around 3-4 years before the smartphones, and T9 dialing was awesome!
9:59 The last thing I expected from this video was to see Fernando Alonso. Peak
Qué grande eres Magic!
I love that rookie ❤
The GOAT!
she keitai on my ntt till i docomo
5:09 that sound effect aged poorly LOL
"Beepers" are mostly called "Pagers".
Very interesting video, thanks!
Edit: hot take: this phone has more character and actual features than 99% of current day android/apple phones.
Display on the back?
physical buttons (visually impaired people are not left out? wow.)
buttons can act as a touchpad? cool?
yeah i have also heard them called "bleepers" the apparently have a lot of names but i decided to just use one to avoid any confusion haha
Aren't pagers also text-capable? Not sure about this, trying to remember these devices from US movies, I don't think we've even had this technology in PL back then 😆
@@BartekSzzz They can be text-capable, but not all of them were, support varied depending on carrier and text models were more expensive.
@@BartekSzzzsome later models were, I had a Motorola pager that supported something like 50 characters. Before that we had number codes we would send instead, like 3165 (cafe) was a special friend meet at a special coffee shop, and 801 (ho-one) was meet the friend at his home instead.
I mean phones only had „character“ until 2019 anyway
In my country, these Japanese phone were available in early 2000. I had a Sony and NEC brand. Having a 3G phone that did internet, video calls etc way before iphone was some cyberpunk future living. Thanks for the memory unlocking video f4mi
where are you from?
Yeah, i had a NEC phone and videocalls in Italy in 2003
@@Wrynard japan of course
@@lvl90dru1d bruh
Awesome video. Love the editing, you almost seem like you are presenting with a modern day perspective but with a period accurate aesthetic when you talk about about the beepers and early cell phones
Fun fact what you said about french people saying "le portable" is true (also you didn't butcher it, it was perfect), however this is only true for french people, not all french *talking* people will say that.
I know that people in belgium, canada or switzerland say it differently (such as "cellulaire", "natel", etc)
We call it "portable" in Morocco too, in Arabic as well.
I am in Québec and you are correct that we say "cellulaire".
Mario smoking a weed in the thumbnail, it's already a banger
Changed thumbnail? :(
@@f5203No it's still there
I literally said "2007" one second before you did I am _dying_ laughing
*dying*
Great video. In 2005-2006 I was making games for the Japanese phone market. Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus - Lost Episode was the main one. It was a fascinating time. I remember having a particularly ‘interesting’ meeting at the DoCoMo HQ where 30 salarymen stared at us while a guy from Square Enix screamed at them :)
uhhh, do you happen to still have access to that game? i think it's a lost media thing now, that or it's some other square/final fantasy j2me featurephone game which you might have or know of a way to recover it, but yeah, pretty sure i know of some people who are looking for it
@ I think I only have a dev build that ran on PC. But the last time I tried to run it I didn’t have the tools / engine exe. It’s a shame because I have a bunch of demos we did for a pitch for Sonic and DMC for mobile. This is all pre-iPhone. The J2ME version was a total pain to develop. The reason SE were going crazy at DoCoMo was because they wouldn’t let native apps run on the phone. I think the main customer for it was KDDI.
Damnnnnn you're a celebrity to me I was so passively hoping that game would get ported to something my british ass knew about, as a kid. truly lost episode.
@@morgantrias3103 yeah. It’s lost to me too. Actually I think everything I did at Ideaworks is lost to time :( the more I try and remember (I’m old!), I think the builds I have are for Windows CE circa 2006. The engine worked on pretty much everything, so those builds were just for my device. The Java version was built from the ground up. From what I remember it was one of the ‘impossible’ ports that somehow the talented coders made possible!
Hey, id like a chat with you, im a preservationist of docomo games and you caught my eye
Okay here me out
A travel adventure video where you go to Japan for the sole purpose to get your phone unlocked by Docomo and get side tracked 50 times on the way
Just like the MattKC getting that Lego Island
Point & Click?
You mean like f4mi measuring King Kong's balls?
Reminds me of Nick Robinson
1:20 I know you're mainland European but if I didn't know beforehand, I'd think that "to make sure they're not currently being stabbed" line is peak Winnipeg and/or British brainrot right there.
I'm sure parents the wolrd over have a primal instinct to check their kids for stab wounds every 10 minutes when they leave the house.
thinking the stabbing is confined to the british isles? oh my sweet summer child, if only you knew how bad things really are.
That phone flick was so badass
i got a hungry jacks ad on this video telling me to refresh my summer with a drink
it's december and hungry jacks is not even thing here 💀
Ah, yes. The pager... one time on 150 mile round trip, the boss sends 'call base' 3 times. Finally I come to highway exit near enough villages to maybe find working callbox. Then I get berated for not calling sooner - they had to send out van #2 to fetch urgent job. No comprehension that I cannot answer calls without finding callbox, after 30 mins search. At that time 1993, only Big Boss Man was supplied with car-installed 'mobile phone' Typing this; spellcheck needs advice on what is: 'callbox'? Why did we ignore Keitai, in the west?
Oh man, never though I'd hear of docomo again. I did the artwork and art directed other artists for a limited edition phone collaboration between Disney and Docomo back in 2014. The phone came out mid 2014 I believe. going through several layers of approval was something quite crazy. I personally did the one with Mickey Mouse coming out through the mirror. It was supposed to refer to a 1930s short where Mickey goes through an alternate world through a looking glass, I have no memory what it's called. Funnily the art featured both the front view and the back view of Mickey. I wish they sent one over to me.
That makes me think of Epic Mickey, that was a great game for me on the Wii.
a quick search indicates it was probably the SH-05F
@@ReidvinK Cool, thanks for letting me know that. A few more info on the project, it was a collaboration between my studio at the time and Polygon Pictures. The same studio that did the Blame! anime and Godzilla Earth Series.
There is a video of Micheal MJD talking about these Docomo × Disney cell phones, and one of them was precisely the one with the mirror. I don't know if you've watched it, but I recommend checking it out.
14106 sounds SO much like a Metal Gear Solid Codec frequency that I did a double-take and searched to see if the series used that specific number. Unfortunately not.
TIL ericson wasn’t owned by Sony from the start. I remember the days of walkman phones, they felt so far ahead of the competition
I remember an asian and me comparing our phones back when I had an iPhone 3GS and he had a Sony Ericson "dumbphone" but actually had more features than the iPhone...
i love peculiar little deep dives like this. thank you fami
Love the formatting of this video. Feels like I’m watching some old YT content from the 2000s or a PBS documentary of some sort.
If you want a modern Android flip phone, get a Cat S22 flip. I believe they run Android 11 and you can buy them unlocked for around $100. I've been tempted to try one as a more durable & pocketable phone for biking.
I believed this too until my Cat S22 came in the mail and it felt so comically huge that I didn't want to be seen in public with it and immediately returned it.
Kyocera also makes durable phone for the US market, y'know. Don't know if they have touch screens tho.
@@inanestereo the flip phones don't.
cool trick to have up your sleeve, if you always put the area / country code in the contact you are saving, you prevent one of the ways for someone to call you from another phone pretending to be one of your contacts
Man, I remember pagers. We had 'pager code' here in the US as well; essentially assigning numbers (sometimes multiple) to letters that were similar enough in shape. There were also text-based pagers (with tiny keyboards on them), but they were exceedingly more expensive for your average high schooler at the time (mostly late 90's). Everything changed with inexpensive Nokia phones and T9 dialing.
What is more fascinating to me is how the Japanese keitai is what shaped the Japanese internet. Webpages, even today, are built with the understanding that you are scrolling using a phone screen of this style. Like they didn't even bother moving to 'Web 2.0' however many years ago that was.
0:45 I honestly thought it was going to be much more recent, but that's probably because I've used to seeing newer Nokia and other chinese-manufactured Android flip phones.
The ending translation: wed mario ❤️
Nintendo pls dont sue me
now this is a werid code
iMode was a thing in the Netherlands. The main telecom provider launched it very big in the 00’s. They had some cool phones
9:59 Fernando Alonso mentioned rahhhhh🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
OHHHH FERNANDO ALONSO 🗣🗣🔥🔥
As someone who speaks a tiny bit of japanese it is quite fun to see this "secret" berutomo language and how it works
like in the example 0840 is "good morning" because 0 can be "oh", 8 is "hachi", first syllable "ha", 4 is "yon", first syllable "yo", and then another zero for another "oh" to make it longer, because its proper pronounciation is "Ohayō"
Same, these number puns are called goroawase 語呂合わせ
they work because Japanese numbers have a bunch of different ways of reading them
The main way goes (from 1 to 10)
ichi, ni, san, shi, go, roku, nana, hachi, kyuu, jyuu
(with 4/shi also being commonly read as 'yon' and 7 nana as 'shichi')
if anyone here is a Hatsune Miku fan, this is why she's associated with the number 39
because 3/san can be read as 'mi' (such as in '3 things三つ' mi ttsu)
and 9/kyuu can be read as ku
inversely, 39 can then be read as 'san kyuu' which is the same as the Japanese pronounciation of the english 'Thank you'
(if you've heard any songs that go ichi, ni, thank you! now you know the pun
Just wait for the Gen alphas
@@jl8417Miku fan here, yep, I knew the pun around 39 but also, in Initial D, the car of the main character is an AE86 but in the final scene of the series it is shown being overtaken by a GT86 with the plate number being 86-239 aka "Thank you Hachiroku" as an homage to the main car of the main character. There's also all of the MCs in Darlin in the Franxx that are named due to their numerical identification numbers including another gal named Miku after she's the 39.
Bro you can't do that. You can't play that ringtone and thing we don't get ptsd+nostalgia attack!
hey this is the first video of yours I've seen and its very well done! the vibes are immaculate. thank you for the history lesson!
i fuck so hard with the f4mi cinematic universe
Been obsessed by these kinds of phones since i browsed ebay a while back, great vid !
Android 5 is Lollipop, not even that old, it's already a fully Art OS, someone should start doing some nice ROM cooking to it, I honestly really like it.
Very few of Japanese phones are actually rootable and/or flashable, you'd be surprised
Android 5 is 9? 10? years old
@@すどにむ Maybe enthusiast didn't try enough...
Also, I've had 2 Sonys, both rooted, so that doesn't sound right.
@@YOEL_44 Xperia phones are sold outside and some designed outside so it's different story
@@すどにむyou say that, but a large percentage of the ones sold in the rest of the world are also made to not be rooted or flashable... But vulnerabilities are found that allow it... I don't think the Japanese are immune to vulnerabilities,
The only argument I understand is possibly the smaller demographic having access to the hardware as such the vulnerabilities are less likely to be found or have effort put in for them
2:36 "No thanks, Truman"
Wew, I wasn't ready for that
10:00 since you mention sponsorships, NTT been sponsoring Indycar teams since 2012 (and the whole series since 2019) and i bet most people have no idea what they are (myself included prior to this video lol)
That was a cool ass phone flick. Looked like you were about to try to summon a digimon or some super sentai transformation
As an Albanian (and OG viewer of the channel) I love how you always use Albania of all places to demonstrate a mysterious and far away country: "Look, I can even VPN into Albania!" 😄
17:00 ROMANIA MENTIONED romania is canon in f4mi universe
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Didn’t expect to see a meme about Romania here. 😂😂
Romania country code dialled +40
@@celebraces2 OH WOW I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT :))))) (I think it's actually +401 for Rhode Island but it's still not a real number anyways)
One of the real Latins, could be.
came for flippy phone that goes up and down
stayed for the petscop font in the credits
I have been DYING for a competent video on this. It's such a confusing and up in the air process to get one of these working and I want one so bad
0:12 love the filthy frank music
What do you mean?
AccountHolder-c5e filthy frank made that music for his videos, i think shes kind of a filthy frank fan girrl (￣▽￣)
@@home1star who is "filthy Frank"😅
fami production quality been goated
Look at you calling me out with eBay and similar open half way through the video :o
Oh hey, Matt Gray
You need more subscribers this is great and i really enjoyed learning about this phone. Thank you for this!
Isn't this nothing compared to Samsung's China exlusive W series (well up to the W2019)? Like that's the guts of a Galaxy S9 in a flip phone form factor.
Everything about the editing here is pure fantastic and how the color grading and look is changed in this documentary :D
I like it !
A 20 minute video about a pice o tech I never heard about, just what I needed :)
I love your style, F4mi!
That Walkman cap is so so cool!! ❤
So this is the "hentai" that my cousin talks about
9:26 Same in Spain, even today in the smartphone era we are still calling mobile phones "móviles" because the phones that are tied to the landlines are called "Teléfonos fijos" (Fixes phones) and they were even shortened to "fijos" when mobile phones started to become more accesible and the ones that you can take outside of the home are "Teléfonos móviles" since you can move your phone around and they're not tied to the landline.
.... is that a pink guy song playing in the background? 00:11
i just figured out the exact song... damn, you went WAY back into his discography.
Erectile dysfunction rap is a real hood classic.
erectile dysfunction beat 🙏🙏🙏
In Germany we call cell phones "Handy" - likely resulting from a mistranslation - which I came to learn the hard way can have a very different meaning in actual english.
Also: 17, 36, 28, 17, 48, 48, 17, 16, 88
the production quality of these vids is so amazing now lmao
Nice, thanks for review. Respect for Flipper Zero
24:07: I'm not interested in decoding this but the pattern matches the number of letters in "subscribe" and I hope that anyone that went through the trouble did..... Keep kicking ass out here. Your content is campy and fun! Can't wait to see you hit a million subs.
It's so cool that Keitais are being kept alive even to this day. I recently got myself a Mode1 Retro 2, a flip phone that runs goddamn Android 13 and came out in 2023. That's how big the market for these things still is in Japan.
You forgot to mention the most important feature of the PHS, which is the ability to switch around your party members at save points.
If you want a cool looking modern one, get an au KYY31. It's *severely* more expensive and has no trackpad, but it runs android 10 and looks like a 2045 phone from 2005. It also has a more bearable native typing input, and my fork of TraditionalT9 works correctly on the KYY31 too (as well as SH-01J - don't suffer in typing anymore, f4mi-san ;-)
oh my been waiting for a video like this for literally years you have no idea.
Your videos are the F’ng BEST!
I am glad your I was recommended this video! I still cherish those days when we had simpler phones!
Can't believe the quality of your videos, great job
Fun fact, Japan was the country with the longest pager service, sold as “pokeberu” or pocket bell at early 60’s till October 1st 2019, used mainly by contractors, paramedics, police, train drivers and other profesional that need to went at some place mainly on rurally areas, hours ahead the big cities. Many people didn’t supported the situation specially older people at the country side, so there are 3rd party services (around the world too) that maintains alive this particular service
What a gem of a channel. Great research work!
10:00 i remember watching FF: Tokio Drift and seeing people streaming the races over the phone, it was wild
I bought a box of random Keitei goodness in 2016, and 6 phones of different eras of JP only tech for phones before and against smartphones was an incredibly fun summer research project. Thanks for the info dive!
edit: apologies, but I tuned out halfway through cause you put Gran Turismo OST. I had to replay the video.
1:26 My galaxy fold may be have a crease but its probably the best phone for watching your videos, the square aspect ratio fits it perfectly😂.
I love this channel. I enjoy the deep dive into old tech. It's a great reminder how we achieved so much before today's conveniences and how much we lost over the years.
For those who want one, Kyocera make new old-fashioned Japan-made flip phones like the Dura XA Equip based on Android 13 and continue updating its software every few months. It's a great option that works with pretty much all 4G phone plans in the US and Canada (I used a US to Canada relay service to get mine). I don't know about Europe though.
I'm scared of where I'm going mentally because I had to replay at 6:55 multiple times to realize you weren't saying "Ohio"
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Loved the video F4mi, was a vibe watching while eating thanksgiving leftovers
I remember as a kid my grandpa (a surgeon) had a beeper and in my head it was used by men in suits to summon him like some sort of superhero
15:20 TEMPLE OS MENTION
I love watching this video so much because the aspect ratio fits my iPad screen edge to edge.
Damn. Usually YT recommends me crap I won't watch for months or recommends me crap from channels I only watched a small friction of a video of. But now it's the keitais that bring me back to your channel when the last (maybe only?) thing I have seen published by you was the homebrew music vid (that I surely have watched fully) and I watch quite a bit of (especially big N) homebrew content in general? Nice algorithm, YT!
Really confusing segment at the start, foldable phones more than ready for daily use, my ZFlip 3 has been my daily driver for two years, I've dropped it on the ground three times by now, and it has zero cracks, creases, nothing, and that's without any sort of screen protectors...
The whole crease thing is just a misconception from people mishandling and not taking care of their phones blaming on the technology for it, and it sucks, because foldable phones are cool as hell and I genuinely recommend anyone getting them, there's something inherently really satisfying about flipping your phone open and shut, at least to me
You should try the Alt Mive Style Folder for an actually usable one !! Love your vids
your french pronunciation sounded pretty good to me :o (love your work ty)
Good video, congratulations! But as a Flip 5 user since day 1, I can say the "not ready for daily use" is not because of the crease (you will almost never see it). Its way more because of durability issues than anything else.
Interesting facts:
1 - some beepers/pagers (at least in my region) had a full pre-SMS service that we could access dialing to an operator - like the guys in the Matrix movie - to tell a message shorter than people say to be the intimate japanese male parts to they transcribe into text to be shown in the monochromatic LCD of an specific device code hooked that operator service network;
2 - last time i saw someone using just a phone keyboard to write a message was about 15 years ago before smartphones got the whole atention in a matter of phones, but even today type messages this way still kept being possible, despite less intuitive more time consuming, if i want over here - i even need to set some credit card systems that still use it despite having high tech stuff as wifi and a SIM card for mobile data exchange with the bank servers.
3 - back in the day where our phones are just phones and not our whole lives we used to not give a crap about things on it, cause it had our phone number and a contacts list at most. I think this still keep being the intended way to use a "dumbphone", so why bother about so much security for a thing that not even need to be conected with internet?
4 - i don't know how someone on iphones and all Apple stuff can be paranoid about security while using iphones and Apple stuff...
5 - Fami's mom is right: give the lady a couple grandsons!
I LOVE YOU F4MI KEEP MAKING HIGH QUALITY CONTENT
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We also had some kind of fake cell phone in France called Bi-Bop in 1991-97
9:26 It's fine lol
France, underrated tech inventions country of the late 20th century :)
Not to mention Le Minitel, our precursor to internet :)
F4MI always putting out a banger about some obscure old tech. Really good video
the whole touch cruiser thing is so, so cool. I need a modern phone with buttons again.
f4mi is kinda amazing :3 she always does a 125% work on the videos :p , no you nailed the pronunciation of "le portable" :3
In the West, although it was not as well known, there was also an attempt to implement a garakei style of phones, this time focused more on older people, such as the Samsung Galaxy Folder, which was basically a South Korean garakei with a western eye
I work for a certain Finnish company that used to make cellphones, being a kid in the pre-iphone world I was amazed at their models and all the things they could do with the limitations of those years it really shaped my interests all the way through today, and tbh my child brain would've imploded if I had learned at that age that Japanese phones were doing far more cool stuff in the early 2000s and kept their uniqueness for a long time
I love your Björk accent