You really need to pay attention to the video... actually listen to it before you open your keyboard and let everyone know you didn't listen to a dang thing. It's hunters like you who are actually ruining hunting thru your lack of attention to information. I encourage you to be a part of the solution instead of continuing to be a part of the problem...
I saw one doe and 23 wolves in Wisconsin gun season. Totally agree with you Jeff, it’s each hunter’s responsibility to know what is going on in their own area and use common sense in what they harvest. Thanks for another great video Jeff.
Gotta give credit to you Jeff i started watching your videos 5 years ago. At that point I had two deer on the wall. I now have 8 I don’t believe it’s any coincidence!! For a central New York hunter i couldn’t be more proud!! Thank you sir!!
“Just because you have a doe tag, doesn't mean you need to use it. In fact, just because you use a doe tag, doesn't mean you are a good sportsman, or hunting conversationist.” Bingo!!! Best statement I’ve seen about shooting doe’s! DNR does not care about the deer herd,QDM or the resource in general! They are driven by people that don’t even hunt and all about the money. Be a leader not a follower! Doe’s are actually my secret bait to taking down big bucks every season. Something to pay very special attention to if you hunt small properties!🏹🦌. Great video and points Jeff thanks!
Thanks a lot Nate! Folks need to remember that owning a tag isn't a management decision. Instead, that's a tool for making a management decision. You could end up being more of a sportsman for NOT using the tag depending on the land you are hunting. People need to remember that...
You’re the reason Jeff!!! You’re to blame!!! And what do I mean by this!? You’re the man who has guided thousands of us in the right direction! You invest your time and life and have provided invaluable services back to our communities nationwide. Thank you for your sacrifice and passion to do what you do! Yes you are to blame! You are to blame for a lot of amazing wisdoms and ways for us younger hunters to pick up and utilize! Thank you sir! Thank you Jeff!
Great video Jeff, I took a doe the other day with my bow. I haven’t taken a doe in many years. Was glad to get the meat to have for winter. It’s about management.
It's great to hear a reasonable and common sense approach on doe management finally. This is the best take I've heard for those trying to manage a private parcel!
Thanks a lot James! This is what was taught to me by deer research biologistJohn Ozoga and the old guard (Brian Murphy) at the old QDMA roughly 25 years ago. It really left an impression of balance on me. I truly hope it all helps!
Got a doe today around noon. Only saw a spike and a 4 point all rifle season. Today I saw 3 does. Its meat in the freezer and I still have a buck tag for flintlock season after Christmas here in PA. Thanks for all the work you guys put in, this channel has helped me immensely as a new hunter.
I just got an 8 pointer this morning and I couldn't have had more fun. I got to hunt with my father in law and we had an awesome time. I love the channel and thank you for all the great tips and advice.
We hunt in western kentucky and we've got quite a few deer on our land but we are still working to get the herd bigger with more mature bucks but maybe in the next couple of years we will have some real monsters.
I can't wait for the late archery/flintlock season here in PA. Already filled my buck tag so I'm gonna have some fun chasing does and I'm not worried about bumping deer around now. I basically stayed out of 30 of my 40 acres during rifle season this year since I didn't want to bump a big buck I am sure is using that part of the property. I basically just hunted right around the house.
Love the logic regarding the time, and knowing how many to take.Numbers are down on my lease and freezers are full from B H season but have a another permission property to hunt in another area with very high numbers, and HUNTERS FOR THE HUNGRY will always take donations..
Jeff I’ve watched you since 2019 where I lived in Alabama & had permission to a 500 acre farm and did everything wrong Now I live in Pennsylvania and hunt a 5 acre property & do everything you say everytime of the year & during the hunting season I have had more success hunting on that 5 acre parcel up here after taking time and learning and trying something I wouldn’t necessarily have done on my own and it works just about every time I’ve seen more bucks on the hook than I ever did on that 500 acres Simply because I chose to make the most of what I had with what I had thanks to your guidance via these videos! Congratulations on the success this year. It’s been fun to watch and thank you for your knowledge and your wisdom on this channel! I don’t know if you do trips out to 5 acre backyards but if you do, I’d still love to get your opinion!
That's awesome Sam...I love to hear about your experience. It amazes me how you can turn a 5 acre however into a larger parcel than a 500 acre parcel 😊 Well done! Love to hear it. I do go to parcels that small...but I get to PA less often tho. Western pa a bit tho!
Agree 100% with your thoughts on this Jeff. I wish people just took the time to think about this. A couple of hard winters devastated the area I did most of my hunting. It takes a lot of time for the deer to recover when you lose several year classes of deer.
Depending on the area it can rebound in a couple of years...or literally never. The "never" is in the case the lake superior shoreline where giant winter kills took out entire square miles of deer at a time. Snowbelt areas and big woods, no ag. Those areas can take several years or more.
The issue here in NJ is: the Auto Ins companies complained about the pay outs on Deer hits. Back in the day, (70's) into the early eighty's, we had to apply for a Doe permit. Now it's unlimited Doe's in all seasons. This along with the Coyote & Coywolves, auto hits, CWD & Blue tongue disease has the herd is suffering I feel. I can't justify shooting any Doe right now here as they are next years "baby makers". I'm very disappointed with the State of NJ and the Deer management issues going on. Good video Jeff and, my food plot turned out pretty good here in Salem County, NJ this year despite no rain hardly. Wes was and has been a big help assisting me answering various questions etc. My goal this year was simple: plant a food plot to try and help the Deer not to kill Deer especially Doe's and small Bucks with the issues we have going on here. I've had some small Bucks on camera but nothing I would want to take. Hopefully they and a lot of Doe's will survive to make it to next year. It's a sad situation and honestly I can't believe the State is allowing all of this to happen. They started the Coyote release program back in the early/mid ninetys and now it's out of control. And with the cross breeding now into the "Coywolves" it's really bad. New Jersey is a small State compared to a lot of others and it is vastly populated in Northern NJ. We down South are a lot of AG but being taken over by building and warehouse's everywhere. I'm sad over what has happened to our beautiful "Garden State" Great video's Jeff ! Thanks........MIke
Thanks great Wes helped you out a lot Mike...we appreciate him too! It's so tough. The DNR gives us the tools and it is so much easier on private land..but man even then. There are pockets how good habitat private lands where folks shoot way too any does, and on public 🤦🏻♂️ I feel bad for a lot of public land hunters when it comes to deer populations. I would venture a guess on most public lands the # of deer is too far below carrying capacity. So many factors go into excessive doe permits in each state but one thing is clear...it is a real problem.
Me and the wife have hunted our area on the club lease for quite a few years in west Arkansas. Early on we went one year and never fired a shot, other years maybe take one. We set up in an area that no other members messed with because there were no deer in there. After a few years we had attracted deer and practiced some trigger finger management. Now, we pick and choose, and still maintain the good breeding does, but take old dry does as we can, and I don’t see that changing. We monitor the number of breeding does, and we dont believe we are overpopulated, and we keep food plots and minerals available year round. Management is the key.
I’ve been following your videos for a few years now and have learned a lot. Some things I have been able to apply to my small parcel which has been great. I am in Virginia, so come rifle season and the hunt dogs come out, it seems as though a lot of the tips, tricks, and methods don’t really apply once the dogs start running consistently. Could you do a video addressing how dogs affect deer patterns?
Dang well I appreciate you following! But man, those dogs can mess things up so bad. I actually don't have a lot of experience with dog hunting for deer. I have experience with neighboring dogs ruining land...but that's a separate actual legal issue.
I have a lot of spikes do I need to place mineral rocks down this April or try and clear them out. I’ve heard they are just young bucks but I’ve seen some that have points in one side but a spike on the other.
Great advice on doe harvest. My home of Erie, still getting shout outs for snow! The main food source where i hunt is a green field. One night last year during gun season( no snow), i saw 22 deer in the field. This year with the snow, its like a ghost town.
Public Land. What can I do to maintain the deer that are passing through? What size buffer do they like to hang around and drop fawns for the fall? ATV Trails? My available space gets a lot of pressure from other user types and I would like to increase my chances. My area is close cover in Eastern Canada, think Maine but more NORTH.
This is a little off-topic, but do you have somewhere where you have lifted out the kind of things that someone should look at when buying a property for Deer? I know you go into client properties and advise them on how to manage what they have, but I wondered if you havekind of a priority top 10 list of things to try to get so that you can have and hold good Deer. Thanks in advance.
What’s your thoughts on shooting does after the rut that are possibly bred with great buck genes? Something we have a hard time with shooting does after the rut.
Jeff i hunt mostly in urban areas, and on the occasions ive shot doe during the rut ive dragged them back to my tree and had bucks follow our trail. Ive butchered doesin my backyard, mid November, 200 yds from the squirrel hill tunnels, and had mature bucks walk into my backyard and stare us down. Caveat here is my target bucks have more interactions with humans than yours & your viewers. But ive always wondered why so many guys pass up does during the rut - that carcass is better than a bait pile!! Happy holidays to you & yours. Steve in Pittsburgh
Don't give PA hunting opportunities too much credit until we get with the times & legalize Sunday hunting. Hey Jeff - how does a Steelers/Lions Superbowl sound? Great videos - I've learned so much watching them this year
I live in a county in Iowa that issues no Anterless tags. The private ground i hunt has tons of does. Each little pocket and herd can be different. As said. Use your judgement. If deer are sparse or, ease up. If deer are plentyful, fireaway.
It is normal to see bucks on my place with a few doe on the food plots. This year, the doe were not around much. They just returned about a week ago. I don't have much in the way of summer food plots, but I'm thinking of doing a couple this year to maybe hold a few more doe on the 400 acres we have.
For us, it's generally buck only until gun. We have so many people on such small acreage that nothing can really escape once it's on ours, but even then, it's one or two total doe the year. Our property holds very few deer. They generally just passing thru going from one food source to another .5 mile apart
Here in my part of Virginia on National Forest land you can only shoot does during bow season (oct) or the last day of late muzzle jan 9. So we are not afforded many choices.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 i feel like we do have good numbers. But being able to only kill bucks in early muzzle (first two weeks of nov) and rifle (second two weeks of nov) means a lot of young bucks are killed. Spikes, forks etc. You have to work hard here, very hard to shoot 4 year old or older mature bucks. Plus a lot of "management" that yall do is hard to do as you might arrive to an area you have managed only to find someone sitting there. So its a lotta climbing and boot work lol. A lot.
I'm hunting out of a saddle first season in one I love it learning as I go trying be more quicker quieter missed a doe 6 days ago. What are some options to make the platform quiet
EAB wasn't very successful in WI...in fact roughly 30% of the "doe" harvest under EAB turned out to be fawn bucks. So WI scrapped the practice. Also, WI and Iowa are 2 states that have 2 and 3 bucks you can shoot respectively, and any MI hunter wishes they had hunting like those states. WI's season is much longer, too! Then you have a 1 buck state in PA that had pretty poor hunting until they adopted state wide APRs. The 1 buck law did nothing until APRs were in place. Also, some of the best hunting in MI is in the APR counties...even tho they still can shoot 2 bucks.
Please clarify your comments about shooting does late because it won't push bucks off your property. I assume you meant simply that you don't want to push bucks off to neighbors who are able to shoot them at the time, but you're still pushing those bucks from your parcel for awhile, correct? We can't be doing much doe shooting here this year, our numbers are down significantly.
I’ve got the only standing corn in the neighborhood in northern Wisconsin and based on what the cameras are showing I’ve only got 12-16 does and fawns hitting it. If we had too many deer I feel there should be a lot more than that. Especially with this last cold front and snow on the ground in an area where big woods meets ag. We didn’t kill any deer this year.
If that's reflective of a large area...that's not a lot of deer! Unless there are other major food sources around you would think that's it for a ways...
There are a few cut corn fields and hay fields southeast of me and another ag pocket a couple miles north but other than that it’s big woods situation. I’m not saying I have all the deer by any means but there certainly is a lot of very low deer density areas in the big woods country.
I hunted today, saw a monster 10 point and a couple of does. My friend only saw a doe. On our walk out about 100 yards from the truck, he said, " doe 3 oclock,, do you want some meat in the freezer?" No I replied, we dont have enough deer here. I have not shot a doe in 14 years. Start your podcast with something like, shoot a doe only when everyone has shot a nice 8 ppint or something. If its brown its down, leads to big no buck frowns in the future......
We no longer shoot does. Couple of our neighbors hammer every deer they see. This greatly impacts our area and better to error in more of the doe sanctuary on our property, which adds to us seeing more and better bucks more consistently. Overall, our area of WI does not have the deer numbers the DNR claims. We couple the nonharvesting of does with nonsummer buck habitat- we let them summer elsewhere. Understand your points, but our situation is more of doe protection.
Oh definitely Jeremy! Sounds like a great management strategy. I firmly believe the scientific population models that most states use, is flawed. Schooled and followed correctly, but flawed. I am hoping some day states begin to use drone count sample census surveys so that actual bodies can be counted instead of guestimated.
I'm in 4d Pennsylvania Primarily hunt public ground.....two weeks of rifle season hunting everyday and i can count the number of deer i saw on 1 hand. They just raised 4d to 77,000 doe tags and brought in a 3week after christmas doe only rifle season. Completely ridiculous! Everyone i talk to says they aren't seeing deer....yet people are shooting the doe they do see. Haven't shot a doe in 7 years. Most Hunters hunt for meat and when they finally get the opportunity they take it.
Those tags are a huge part of the problem. I do not believe the accuracy of their "scientific guesstimates" either they base their numbers on either. I believe they would never want to complete drone census surveys that count actual bodies because it would blow their guestimate #s out of the water. I hunt in 2F and the #s are extremely low.
I will get flamed for this….own 160 acres in kansas timber country. Built a house in the middle of it, talk about disturbance….about 20-25 does using it, 15-20 different bucks each rut are identified. Watching bucks mature over the years, bed, eat and live on my place. The whole tip-toe around thought process is overblown outside of prime hunting season, in which I keep disturbance to a minimum to reduce pushing deer into a neighbors lap but if I didn’t witness it I wouldn’t believe it either. Just saying!!
SE OH. The Landowner asks me to Burger a whole Doe for allowing me to Hunt for a few weeks during Decemeber if i hadnt got my Buck so im out wackin Does and waitin for a Giant to walk to the Food on the mountain.. steep area.. call em LATECORNS😂😂 Stay Big Blessed 🤌💯
Nice Kenneth...I like that trade! Heck, I would can him one 😁 My 2 year old son Jax and I are going out tonight for a doe in MN...OR, a big random buck if we see one, ha. Or both...I hate to be greedy but both would be great 😁
My cousin is a meat processor and 80 percent of the deer coming in are antlered whuch is crazy. Shoot does for meat let the buck mature you wont be dissappinted if you do that. Most of the deer coming in they tell him they dont want the head. What why !?
Some just have to say they shot a buck. However in some areas most shouldn't be shooting any does. Just depends on the location. That % doesn't surprise me tho!
You say its doe time and that's all people hear and go out and shoot everything they see and that's sad , you are ruining hunting ......
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You really need to pay attention to the video... actually listen to it before you open your keyboard and let everyone know you didn't listen to a dang thing. It's hunters like you who are actually ruining hunting thru your lack of attention to information. I encourage you to be a part of the solution instead of continuing to be a part of the problem...
I saw one doe and 23 wolves in Wisconsin gun season. Totally agree with you Jeff, it’s each hunter’s responsibility to know what is going on in their own area and use common sense in what they harvest.
Thanks for another great video Jeff.
@@robertpeet3781 uff 🤦🏼♀️
Yep it's all his fault...🤪 🙄
Gotta give credit to you Jeff i started watching your videos 5 years ago. At that point I had two deer on the wall. I now have 8 I don’t believe it’s any coincidence!! For a central New York hunter i couldn’t be more proud!! Thank you sir!!
Man Alex that is awesome I am so happy for you!! You should be very proud and I love to hear it. Thank you!
“Just because you have a doe tag, doesn't mean you need to use it. In fact, just because you use a doe tag, doesn't mean you are a good sportsman, or hunting conversationist.” Bingo!!! Best statement I’ve seen about shooting doe’s! DNR does not care about the deer herd,QDM or the resource in general! They are driven by people that don’t even hunt and all about the money. Be a leader not a follower! Doe’s are actually my secret bait to taking down big bucks every season. Something to pay very special attention to if you hunt small properties!🏹🦌. Great video and points Jeff thanks!
Thanks a lot Nate! Folks need to remember that owning a tag isn't a management decision. Instead, that's a tool for making a management decision. You could end up being more of a sportsman for NOT using the tag depending on the land you are hunting. People need to remember that...
You’re the reason Jeff!!! You’re to blame!!! And what do I mean by this!? You’re the man who has guided thousands of us in the right direction! You invest your time and life and have provided invaluable services back to our communities nationwide. Thank you for your sacrifice and passion to do what you do! Yes you are to blame! You are to blame for a lot of amazing wisdoms and ways for us younger hunters to pick up and utilize! Thank you sir! Thank you Jeff!
Great video Jeff, I took a doe the other day with my bow. I haven’t taken a doe in many years. Was glad to get the meat to have for winter. It’s about management.
It's great to hear a reasonable and common sense approach on doe management finally. This is the best take I've heard for those trying to manage a private parcel!
Thanks a lot James! This is what was taught to me by deer research biologistJohn Ozoga and the old guard (Brian Murphy) at the old QDMA roughly 25 years ago. It really left an impression of balance on me. I truly hope it all helps!
Got a doe today around noon. Only saw a spike and a 4 point all rifle season. Today I saw 3 does. Its meat in the freezer and I still have a buck tag for flintlock season after Christmas here in PA. Thanks for all the work you guys put in, this channel has helped me immensely as a new hunter.
That's great Josh... definitely some great, healthy meat!
I just got an 8 pointer this morning and I couldn't have had more fun. I got to hunt with my father in law and we had an awesome time. I love the channel and thank you for all the great tips and advice.
Man that is so awesome!! You are very welcome!
I just had a great hunt with my SIL and he shot an 8 point, last week. We had a great time too!
We hunt in western kentucky and we've got quite a few deer on our land but we are still working to get the herd bigger with more mature bucks but maybe in the next couple of years we will have some real monsters.
I can't wait for the late archery/flintlock season here in PA. Already filled my buck tag so I'm gonna have some fun chasing does and I'm not worried about bumping deer around now. I basically stayed out of 30 of my 40 acres during rifle season this year since I didn't want to bump a big buck I am sure is using that part of the property. I basically just hunted right around the house.
Love the logic regarding the time, and knowing how many to take.Numbers are down on my lease and freezers are full from B H season but have a another permission property to hunt in another area with very high numbers, and HUNTERS FOR THE HUNGRY will always take donations..
Jeff I’ve watched you since 2019 where I lived in Alabama & had permission to a 500 acre farm and did everything wrong
Now I live in Pennsylvania and hunt a 5 acre property & do everything you say everytime of the year & during the hunting season
I have had more success hunting on that 5 acre parcel up here after taking time and learning and trying something I wouldn’t necessarily have done on my own and it works just about every time I’ve seen more bucks on the hook than I ever did on that 500 acres Simply because I chose to make the most of what I had with what I had thanks to your guidance via these videos! Congratulations on the success this year. It’s been fun to watch and thank you for your knowledge and your wisdom on this channel!
I don’t know if you do trips out to 5 acre backyards but if you do, I’d still love to get your opinion!
That's awesome Sam...I love to hear about your experience. It amazes me how you can turn a 5 acre however into a larger parcel than a 500 acre parcel 😊 Well done! Love to hear it. I do go to parcels that small...but I get to PA less often tho. Western pa a bit tho!
Jeff, Great video. You are spot on with your thoughts.
Great topic Jeff, hunt does , just be smart about it. Great video.
Thanks Mitchell...so critical that folks actually think before they shoot. Appreciate you!
Agree 100% with your thoughts on this Jeff.
I wish people just took the time to think about this.
A couple of hard winters devastated the area I did most of my hunting.
It takes a lot of time for the deer to recover when you lose several year classes of deer.
Depending on the area it can rebound in a couple of years...or literally never. The "never" is in the case the lake superior shoreline where giant winter kills took out entire square miles of deer at a time. Snowbelt areas and big woods, no ag. Those areas can take several years or more.
The issue here in NJ is: the Auto Ins companies complained about the pay outs on Deer hits. Back in the day, (70's) into the early eighty's, we had to apply for a Doe permit. Now it's unlimited Doe's in all seasons. This along with the Coyote & Coywolves, auto hits, CWD & Blue tongue disease has the herd is suffering I feel. I can't justify shooting any Doe right now here as they are next years "baby makers". I'm very disappointed with the State of NJ and the Deer management issues going on. Good video Jeff and, my food plot turned out pretty good here in Salem County, NJ this year despite no rain hardly. Wes was and has been a big help assisting me answering various questions etc. My goal this year was simple: plant a food plot to try and help the Deer not to kill Deer especially Doe's and small Bucks with the issues we have going on here. I've had some small Bucks on camera but nothing I would want to take. Hopefully they and a lot of Doe's will survive to make it to next year. It's a sad situation and honestly I can't believe the State is allowing all of this to happen. They started the Coyote release program back in the early/mid ninetys and now it's out of control. And with the cross breeding now into the "Coywolves" it's really bad. New Jersey is a small State compared to a lot of others and it is vastly populated in Northern NJ. We down South are a lot of AG but being taken over by building and warehouse's everywhere. I'm sad over what has happened to our beautiful "Garden State" Great video's Jeff ! Thanks........MIke
Thanks great Wes helped you out a lot Mike...we appreciate him too!
It's so tough. The DNR gives us the tools and it is so much easier on private land..but man even then. There are pockets how good habitat private lands where folks shoot way too any does, and on public 🤦🏻♂️ I feel bad for a lot of public land hunters when it comes to deer populations. I would venture a guess on most public lands the # of deer is too far below carrying capacity. So many factors go into excessive doe permits in each state but one thing is clear...it is a real problem.
Me and the wife have hunted our area on the club lease for quite a few years in west Arkansas. Early on we went one year and never fired a shot, other years maybe take one.
We set up in an area that no other members messed with because there were no deer in there.
After a few years we had attracted deer and practiced some trigger finger management.
Now, we pick and choose, and still maintain the good breeding does, but take old dry does as we can, and I don’t see that changing.
We monitor the number of breeding does, and we dont believe we are overpopulated, and we keep food plots and minerals available year round.
Management is the key.
Great video as usual, Dylan your advice at the end was awesome 👏 I’m going to try find me a new spot while hunting
Thanks a lot Robert! Dylan always has great advice 😁
I’ve been following your videos for a few years now and have learned a lot. Some things I have been able to apply to my small parcel which has been great. I am in Virginia, so come rifle season and the hunt dogs come out, it seems as though a lot of the tips, tricks, and methods don’t really apply once the dogs start running consistently. Could you do a video addressing how dogs affect deer patterns?
Dang well I appreciate you following! But man, those dogs can mess things up so bad. I actually don't have a lot of experience with dog hunting for deer. I have experience with neighboring dogs ruining land...but that's a separate actual legal issue.
I have a lot of spikes do I need to place mineral rocks down this April or try and clear them out. I’ve heard they are just young bucks but I’ve seen some that have points in one side but a spike on the other.
Great advice on doe harvest. My home of Erie, still getting shout outs for snow! The main food source where i hunt is a green field. One night last year during gun season( no snow), i saw 22 deer in the field. This year with the snow, its like a ghost town.
Great video, any chance of a video on how you take care of your camo. How you store it to keep it scent free between hunts.
I create lots of those videos towards the beginning to the middle of deer season 😊 Just have to search for them and I hope you like them!
Public Land. What can I do to maintain the deer that are passing through? What size buffer do they like to hang around and drop fawns for the fall? ATV Trails? My available space gets a lot of pressure from other user types and I would like to increase my chances. My area is close cover in Eastern Canada, think Maine but more NORTH.
This is a little off-topic, but do you have somewhere where you have lifted out the kind of things that someone should look at when buying a property for Deer? I know you go into client properties and advise them on how to manage what they have, but I wondered if you havekind of a priority top 10 list of things to try to get so that you can have and hold good Deer. Thanks in advance.
Mi.is tomorrow. Muzzleloader ends today.does tomorrow into jan. Dec15 today.
Multiple counties around here, doe only around the last few days of Thanksgiving... yet you see doe everywhere?
What’s your thoughts on shooting does after the rut that are possibly bred with great buck genes?
Something we have a hard time with shooting does after the rut.
Good vidoe and thumbs up for Dylan public land suggestion1
Thank you! Great way to scout for next year 😊
Jeff i hunt mostly in urban areas, and on the occasions ive shot doe during the rut ive dragged them back to my tree and had bucks follow our trail. Ive butchered doesin my backyard, mid November, 200 yds from the squirrel hill tunnels, and had mature bucks walk into my backyard and stare us down. Caveat here is my target bucks have more interactions with humans than yours & your viewers. But ive always wondered why so many guys pass up does during the rut - that carcass is better than a bait pile!! Happy holidays to you & yours. Steve in Pittsburgh
Ha, a doe bait like 😁 Love it. Pretty cool experiences Steve! And btw I love hunting in your state!
Don't give PA hunting opportunities too much credit until we get with the times & legalize Sunday hunting. Hey Jeff - how does a Steelers/Lions Superbowl sound? Great videos - I've learned so much watching them this year
I live in a county in Iowa that issues no Anterless tags. The private ground i hunt has tons of does. Each little pocket and herd can be different. As said. Use your judgement. If deer are sparse or, ease up. If deer are plentyful, fireaway.
It is normal to see bucks on my place with a few doe on the food plots. This year, the doe were not around much. They just returned about a week ago. I don't have much in the way of summer food plots, but I'm thinking of doing a couple this year to maybe hold a few more doe on the 400 acres we have.
It really depends. I like to use the summer food to raise, lower or maintain doe #s. Great tactic and that may work well for you!
For us, it's generally buck only until gun. We have so many people on such small acreage that nothing can really escape once it's on ours, but even then, it's one or two total doe the year. Our property holds very few deer. They generally just passing thru going from one food source to another .5 mile apart
Here in my part of Virginia on National Forest land you can only shoot does during bow season (oct) or the last day of late muzzle jan 9. So we are not afforded many choices.
Wow, that's really not a bad strategy! Hopefully your deer #s are decent on that federal land?
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 i feel like we do have good numbers. But being able to only kill bucks in early muzzle (first two weeks of nov) and rifle (second two weeks of nov) means a lot of young bucks are killed. Spikes, forks etc. You have to work hard here, very hard to shoot 4 year old or older mature bucks. Plus a lot of "management" that yall do is hard to do as you might arrive to an area you have managed only to find someone sitting there. So its a lotta climbing and boot work lol. A lot.
I'm hunting out of a saddle first season in one I love it learning as I go trying be more quicker quieter missed a doe 6 days ago. What are some options to make the platform quiet
Boy I am really not sure! We have Tethrd but unfortunately haven't been able to use them yet...which is a bummer. I wsh I could help you out more!
What do you mean you got a doe and buck after dark? Are you allowed to hunt deer after legal light?
How do you feel about earn a buck ? And do you think Michigan should go to a 1 buck rule ?
EAB wasn't very successful in WI...in fact roughly 30% of the "doe" harvest under EAB turned out to be fawn bucks. So WI scrapped the practice. Also, WI and Iowa are 2 states that have 2 and 3 bucks you can shoot respectively, and any MI hunter wishes they had hunting like those states. WI's season is much longer, too! Then you have a 1 buck state in PA that had pretty poor hunting until they adopted state wide APRs. The 1 buck law did nothing until APRs were in place. Also, some of the best hunting in MI is in the APR counties...even tho they still can shoot 2 bucks.
@ correct we are in Wexford County and we have APR
Thanks Jeff
You are very welcome!
hey Jeff how can i get a copy of that march 2004 article? i looked online for it but no luck.
Boy I'm really not sure! Outside of contacting the NDA? I wish I could help out more for you
Think Jeff we don't shoot does much at all .
Please clarify your comments about shooting does late because it won't push bucks off your property. I assume you meant simply that you don't want to push bucks off to neighbors who are able to shoot them at the time, but you're still pushing those bucks from your parcel for awhile, correct? We can't be doing much doe shooting here this year, our numbers are down significantly.
My uncles neighbor has taken 40 doe using crop damage tags in 2 years. It’s completely decimated the herd around him.
I’ve got the only standing corn in the neighborhood in northern Wisconsin and based on what the cameras are showing I’ve only got 12-16 does and fawns hitting it. If we had too many deer I feel there should be a lot more than that. Especially with this last cold front and snow on the ground in an area where big woods meets ag. We didn’t kill any deer this year.
If that's reflective of a large area...that's not a lot of deer! Unless there are other major food sources around you would think that's it for a ways...
There are a few cut corn fields and hay fields southeast of me and another ag pocket a couple miles north but other than that it’s big woods situation. I’m not saying I have all the deer by any means but there certainly is a lot of very low deer density areas in the big woods country.
Filled a doe tag and a 2 buck tags today. All in 5 minutes
Ha, now that is awesome!! Great work...I bet an incredible hunt, too!
I hunted today, saw a monster 10 point and a couple of does. My friend only saw a doe. On our walk out about 100 yards from the truck, he said, " doe 3 oclock,, do you want some meat in the freezer?" No I replied, we dont have enough deer here. I have not shot a doe in 14 years.
Start your podcast with something like, shoot a doe only when everyone has shot a nice 8 ppint or something. If its brown its down, leads to big no buck frowns in the future......
The season goes so fast…
Especially with as many things as you have going on! But either way...man, it seems to go faster every year!
@ hopefully the dam sharp shooters stay away!!!
We no longer shoot does. Couple of our neighbors hammer every deer they see. This greatly impacts our area and better to error in more of the doe sanctuary on our property, which adds to us seeing more and better bucks more consistently. Overall, our area of WI does not have the deer numbers the DNR claims. We couple the nonharvesting of does with nonsummer buck habitat- we let them summer elsewhere. Understand your points, but our situation is more of doe protection.
Oh definitely Jeremy! Sounds like a great management strategy.
I firmly believe the scientific population models that most states use, is flawed. Schooled and followed correctly, but flawed. I am hoping some day states begin to use drone count sample census surveys so that actual bodies can be counted instead of guestimated.
I'm in 4d Pennsylvania Primarily hunt public ground.....two weeks of rifle season hunting everyday and i can count the number of deer i saw on 1 hand. They just raised 4d to 77,000 doe tags and brought in a 3week after christmas doe only rifle season. Completely ridiculous! Everyone i talk to says they aren't seeing deer....yet people are shooting the doe they do see. Haven't shot a doe in 7 years. Most Hunters hunt for meat and when they finally get the opportunity they take it.
Those tags are a huge part of the problem. I do not believe the accuracy of their "scientific guesstimates" either they base their numbers on either. I believe they would never want to complete drone census surveys that count actual bodies because it would blow their guestimate #s out of the water.
I hunt in 2F and the #s are extremely low.
Hunters have to remember: Does are next years Deer, our baby makers.i
@MacMcCabe2456 I 100% agree but when I talk with hunters they say they paid for the Tag they are going to use it!
My only thought is ever 1 you kill, you're probably killing 2
I will get flamed for this….own 160 acres in kansas timber country. Built a house in the middle of it, talk about disturbance….about 20-25 does using it, 15-20 different bucks each rut are identified. Watching bucks mature over the years, bed, eat and live on my place. The whole tip-toe around thought process is overblown outside of prime hunting season, in which I keep disturbance to a minimum to reduce pushing deer into a neighbors lap but if I didn’t witness it I wouldn’t believe it either. Just saying!!
Yep not DNR’s fault Michigan public land and hard hunted private land big bucks are so hard to get. DNR is not pulling those triggers.
SE OH. The Landowner asks me to Burger a whole Doe for allowing me to Hunt for a few weeks during Decemeber if i hadnt got my Buck so im out wackin Does and waitin for a Giant to walk to the Food on the mountain.. steep area.. call em LATECORNS😂😂 Stay Big Blessed 🤌💯
Nice Kenneth...I like that trade! Heck, I would can him one 😁 My 2 year old son Jax and I are going out tonight for a doe in MN...OR, a big random buck if we see one, ha. Or both...I hate to be greedy but both would be great 😁
My cousin is a meat processor and 80 percent of the deer coming in are antlered whuch is crazy. Shoot does for meat let the buck mature you wont be dissappinted if you do that. Most of the deer coming in they tell him they dont want the head. What why !?
Some just have to say they shot a buck. However in some areas most shouldn't be shooting any does. Just depends on the location. That % doesn't surprise me tho!
That's a NO this year in Northwest Iowa.
Untold numbers have died off the last 2 summers.
Oh definitely...always have to play the manager role and decide if you need to take any at all!
Farmers renting my properties are going to start dropping my properties because of deer damage.
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Good luck Connor!
2nd
Yahoo!!!!!! Fantastic! So fast!
Great bucks this year by the way!!!! Incredible!
She did an incredible job this year! Make sure you watch tomorrow's video for her WI buck! So proud of her...
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By one second…. 😂 I’m getting better!
Almost, haha