The Definitive Ranking of all Star Trek Shows by Fans and Media!
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00:00 - Introduction
01:52 - Number 11
03:49 - Number 10
05:47 - Sponsor
07:11 - Number 9
08:27 - Number 8
09:56 - Number 7
11:38 - Number 6
13:05 - Number 5
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18:51 - Number 1
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So you aggregated votes, but then just ignored that and picked your own favourites. And then forgot Short Treks. Idiotic.
My top 4 is the same as yours, with DS9 as #5. Rewatches/the ability to binge has changed my opinion--I love Enterprise way more than when it was on the air. It's hard to judge with some of the new shows not finished. What are the chances that you love Disco's 5th season so much that it moves the show up a rank or two??🤔
1 Voyager
2 TNG
3 Enterprise
4 TOS
5 DS9
6/7 Picard/Discovery (flip-flops; both have only 2 great seasons)
8 Strange New Worlds
9 Prodigy (would move up if more seasons are as good as the 1st)
10 Lower Decks
11 The Animated Series (two seasons and like only 3 music cues makes it unbingable)
Yall suck. That was easy
Would be a shame if people got your sponsorships pulled for you guys being terrible people. Dont connect your UA-cam acount to your twitter.
There's a method that is as close to "objectivity" as it can get, but only works if you like TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY equally (when they are at their very best). Try to choose a very small number of essential episodes, the very best from each show only. With Voyager it's easy, and with DS9 you'll end up mostly with Dominion War stuff. But with TOS and TNG is near impossible, since even the weak episodes have a bit of magic to them that makes you want to rewatch over and over.
I still think TOS was the greatest achievement for its time. And I love the musical scores, they're an important element in how re-watchable TOS is.
Lists like this are always interesting because you can always what the List maker likes and hates.
Honestly, whether you like it or hate it, I'm just glad that there is a Star Trek series for everyone.
1. TOS (most rewatchable)
2. DS9 (highest quality)
3. ENTERPRISE (yes, favorite theme-song!)
4. TAS (my introduction to Star Trek as a child)
Discovery is dead last.
100% concur with ST:D at the bottom;
The outstanding story arc of seasons 5 through 7 is what places DSN as the series with "highest quality"~
I agree with your list.
@@gregvarner9562 - it’s great to be validated! 😉
I agree with your list except I would place TNG either 2nd or 3rd. It competes with DS9. No to the Enterprise theme song ;). I don't consider Discovery and Abrams-Kurtzman content as Star Trek. Forced to put place it all on a list, I agree with your placement of Discovery.
@@bonghunezhou5051ST:D is definitely an STD. What a load of absolute rubbish, how dare they insult the name Star Trek with that crap. Get lost Franchise killer Jar Jar Abrams and Star Trek Killer Klutzman, we don't want your rubbish.
DS9 is my # 1 series, and In the Pale Moonlight the best episode in any series.
Mine too.
Same!
The acting of Quark always stunned me. Such a fantastic actor
TOS and DS9 interchangeable in #1 and #2 imho
Same but my favorite episode is "Duet" then "In The Pale Moonlight" is my second favorite
Sad to see TAS getting so little love.
Kudos to Nimoy for sticking up for his colleagues.
True, but even "Lennie" seemingly drew the line at Walter Koenig, the least senior member of the cast.
@@bonghunezhou5051 Koenig was brought in only because they producers hoped it would appeal to girls that were in Beatlemania at the time. There's nothing personal about these decisions quite often.
@@bonghunezhou5051 I guess the thinking went that he wasn't in the original cast and only added in to appeal to "teenyboppers."
Wholeheartedly agree. TAS kept the dream of more Star Trek alive at a time when revivals of older shows were unheard of, and imo the art and stories and voice-acting by the originals (even if a tad stilted much of the time) more than made up for the wooden animation and recycled footage. I still wish the show had continued on for many more seasons.
It had all the flaws of tos and the animation highlights those flaws. I'm not saying that I wouldn't watch it over most marvel superhero movies, just that it earned a low rating.
STAR TREK: THE ORIGINAL SERIES was an incredible pioneering show which was significantly ahead of its time and ground-breaking in so many ways. For this intelligent and creative element alone, I will always place it as "Number One." Everything else rides its coattails.
I agree 100% .... everything else is a carbon copy.
Agreed!! Exactly NONE of the following shows would have even existed
In my opinion TOS, TNG and DS9 are the holy trinity of Star Trek series. And DS9 in particular represents the last gasp of top notch writing and acting on TV.
THIS
I totally agree also. Personally I put TOS at #1, because I am of that generation that grew up on TOS, TAS, the conventions and fan magazines (we used to call them Fanzines), all the way to the films. But in those three series, you are in rarified air, and I agree there is very little separating them, you could almost say it's a three-way tie for the top. Personally, I also put DS9 at #2 and TNG at #3. As beloved as it continues to be, I thing TNG has not aged as well as even TOS. But that's just my opinion. I'm a little surprised at how low Enterprise is, while it was flawed, especially in season 1, I liked the characters MUCH better than Voyager. It's hard for me to imagine anyone seeing Voyager as their favorite. It's a great premise, but it was executed "blandly" and the characters are mostly not great (exceptions for Tuvok and the Doctor, I really liked them, but almost no one else). Nothing from the Kurtzman era even comes close, although I agree about S3 of Picard, it actually felt like Star Trek. SNW started out pretty decent and i was hopeful, but it's really gone off the rails with stupidity and it's no better than Discovery to me. I haven't bothered to watch the new animated shows so have no opinion.
I agree completely.
nope. ron moore drags on and on 😂
TNG didn't start really rocking until Ryker grew the beard. The first season almost made me abandon the show.
By the time TNG ended, it was pretty good.
DS9 rocked from day one and like most shows, got better as time went on. Who knew it would get as good as it did with arguably some of the greatest space battles to ever be put on a television screen. Orville is up there as well.
TOS needs nothing because, despite its flaws, it is and always will be THE FIRST. The benchmark that all other Star Trek shows should have always followed but now we have a mess with 3 SETS OF CANON. What the actual F*ck.
Voyager was a show I really liked as the opportunity to create so much new material was mind-boggling. I think that might have been its downfall though. Some of the writing just got hobbled by itself. Not to mention, it seemed to always want to "feature" a different show character every week as the MC of that episode. That would be fine if there were only like 4 of them but having 9+ of them over the course of the show kind of watered down the continuity of the show.
The only problem I had with Star Trek, in general, was at every turn they were usually "out-gunned" by their enemies or adversaries and always survived. Not to mention, Star Fleet was supposed to be the ultimate "entity" of Universe cooperation but yet, had the weakest armed and defended ship in the Galaxy LOL.
Regardless of their ranking, we must Trek forward, remember the past, and learn from it.
Ds9 should be way higher
nahhh... discoverry bad
I mean.... putting Picard ahead of DS9 for the final season? Which is pretty overhyped by a starving fandom.
In my book its:
TNG - DS9 - ENT - VOY - TOS - SNW - PIC - LD - PRO - TAS - DIS.
I woudln't be totally against TNG and DS9 sharing first place and ENT and VOY sharing Second.
I agree with you about TNG and DS9 sharing first place. EnT sharing 2nd with VOY,not for me.ENT was extremely boring and bland for me.
@@user-be7tc2bd6e Fair point. "For me" it wasn't. I love Enterprise and I though it was one of the best SciFi shows at that time.
@@CinematicHypeTV for me if it got a season five it wouldve been my 3rd fav after ds9 and tng
Picard Season 3 isn't even good. It only seems good compared to Picard season 2.
@@magister343 Yea, thats what I meant by "starving fandom". Its good compared to Season 1 and 2, its good if you compare the "look and the music" to other Star Trek projects (since 2009). But its not good if you look at it with a neutral eye.
I can watch TOS over and over. So many episodes are memorable. I’m loving Strange new Worlds too.
TOS is so episodic you can watch them in almost any order. There's maybe 5 episodes out of the whole run where events in past episodes have any effect at all. Pretty much all that comes to mind is the time they steal a Romulan Cloak after literally "facing" them for the first time earlier and the second episode with Harry Mudd. Guess when they go back in time on purpose too. Both times.
SNW is pretty amazing. Everything, even the lead in feels exactly like the production team from TOS was making it, just today. That lead in is pretty much exactly what my childhood imagination filled in watching the start of a TOS episode too. I still can't get over that, lol.
I was ten years old when TOS premiered. I can't believe that the world prefers Lower Decks over The animated Series. I guess it really does come down to writing.
Same age as you and same opinions. I still vividly remember when "Man Trap" premiered. Man, I was impressed as all hell. Only one in my family who noticed that Nancy looked different to Kirk than she did to McCoy. We even had a loud argument over whether I was just imagining it until we saw the doomed crewman's perception of her. Loved the monster. Practically yelled ,"Wow, look at 'em go!" as the planet retreated rapidly into the distance at the end of the episode. I was a fan for life already by then.
I was 20 when it premiered. Not an animation person but also think animated series way over Lower Decks, a kind of slapstick kind of humor. Couldn't get into that silliness as part of a franchise. What I like about the animated series is that I kept thinking how this or that script for this episode might be expanded to live action. It definitely is better written. Also, DS9 for #1 for me and Sisko best captain.
Automatic like for putting Discovery where it belongs
Wasn't just us, the global ranking also puts it at the bottom.
Discovery should be with the Borgia Pope in the lower levels of hell!
Discovery is not Trek
DISCO SUCKS!
Should have been lower.
TOS is such a trailblazer, so inventive, so well written, so well acted, so influential on culture and even comedy ie Southpark, that TOS is always tops because 60 years later its still top rated on cable at 8pm, it's simply the most popular show in syndication way surpassing even I Love Lucy oh, you just got to realize that Star Trek the Original Series it's probably one of the best television shows ever made I would call it the best television show ever made
I agree, some better episodes are even now breathtaking. Pure art and cult status. For smart people 😉
Brilliant! "TNG" will always be my #1 golden-age *and* overall "Star Trek" show.
Ds9
I'm sure this wont be controversial at all !
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@@ThePopcast, great episode and super well explained. Loved the format. :-) thank-you
TOS belongs #1 DS9 #2 and Discovery dead last. SNW also ranked too high imho.
_VOYAGER #1, BABY!_
Yep! Loved that series!
TNG is hands down the best series. SNW and Ds9 follows. 🖖
I wonder if The Orville will get at least an honorary mention, as it's the best "Star Trek" series post Enterprise, sure Picard Season 3 wasn't the worst (yet overhyped) but Season 1 left a sour taste in my mouth (and I even skipped season 2) as it's all still stuck in the Klutzman Dystopia.
Neph, The Orville is NOT a Star Trek series. I hate it when Orville and Galaxy Quest get classified by some people as being part of Star Trek.
@@pike100 Well, compare them with STD, Picard, and all the other drek Klutzman wants us to believe are Star Trek then you know in your heart (and mind) that Galaxy Quest and The Orville are far closer to actual Star Trek than those Star Drek shows.
@@NephritduGrey I hate STD, too. I have never seen Picard. However, I did love season 1 of Strange New Worlds.
You can’t be serious…
mostly agree. Just Enterprise needs to be higher. Mid pack at least.
Enterprise at number THREE!? What!? Is this a joke!?!?
This is the STRANGEST list for Star Trek I have EVER seen!!!
This list is the closest to mine ever. Most lists ends up with Discovery and Picard way too high. But this one is dead on, thanks for making it.
I am often split between TNG/ToS as the first spot. I guess what I would want is a ToS-esque series in a TNG setting, where you have more than 3 main characters (Kirk, Spock, McCoy) like TNG, but a more rigid captain like Kirk with rules closer to ToS.The seven seasons of TNG really allowed us to see interesting stories about all characters, including O'Brien (who as spectacular in later seasons and on DS9), and even Barkley, who got closure in Voyager. Imagine ToS having had the same treatment.
That said if we get more "classic Trek" I would not mind a series in the "Lost Era" between ST6 and TNG, or just continue after Nemesis (And no Romulus supernova garbage, I like my Romulans and they should explore them like we explored Klingons with Worf, Ferrengi with Quark, and Cardassian with Garrek and the others later).
If I could chose exist in a startrek era, I'd definitely place my alter-ego fan-fiction character in the TNG area as a young 18yo around late season2 or early season 3 of TNG.
Have a nice evening everyone !
The video game Resurgence deals with Post Nemesis (having a TOS guest character in it who doesn't get sucked in by BS events about a Supernova) and one plays as first officer and a lower decks engineer, it's a Telltale like game. It was so refreshing to see proper Star Trek again and the game was fun as well with a good (imho) story.
For a new Series I'd also wish for it to be either Post Nemesis (ignoring all the 2009-Disco-Picard nonsense) series or one set in the TOS movie era setting as they had the best looking ships (Refit Connie reigns supreme) and Uniforms. They shouldn't shoehorn in older characters though as that feels...well shoehorned xD
I remember when Deep Space Nine first came out, there was considerable fan blow back (mainly during the rough first two seasons) on the cerebral emphasis (?) on the Bajoran religious aspect of the show, and not as much BSU (blowin' s**t up), so, I'm pleasantly surprised that it now ranks as high as it does. Quite the comeback! Most Star Trek shows started out with great promise but tailed off at the end (yeah, I'm looking at you Enterprise and Discovery!).
After the first two seasons, I think the writers deciding to frame the Bajoran religion more as a bunch of advanced but not omnipotent "wormhole aliens"! They certainly weren't "prescient" (all seeing), as they were constantly shown to be surprised by the actions of the human characters ("why are you here?", "What is this "time"?), which made them seem less metaphysically god-like and more science fictioney (like Q and the "god" in Star Trek: The Final Frontier)!
Another strong aspect of the show, that helped resuscitate the series, was the development of the substantial Dominion War serialized arc, which is the only Star Trek I still routinely binge watch. Also helping revitalize the series was the successful fleshing out of two of the races that were given short shrift in ST:TNG, namely the Ferengi, and the Cardassians. Even the Klingons and Romulans were afforded substantial insights into their cultures.
Then, of course, there were a couple of other relatively minor tweaks that helped the show "get their sea legs" so-to-speak, namely the introduction of the USS Defiant, and then there was the introduction of Section 31, the Tal Shiar, and the Obsidian Order, and the wonderfully enigmatic Garak! The Next Generation was limited to . . . well . . . Barkley, I guess!
I just ❤ when Garak speak.
I greatly enjoyed the ranking and was a bit surprised Discovery was ranked as high as it was.
My list would list all the legacy Star Trek in the order they came out with the Nu Trek a bit Different
1. TOS
2. TAS
3. TNG
4. DS9
5. VOY
6. ENT
7. SNW
8. Prodigy
9. PIC
10. Lower Decks
11. STD (and thats a compliment) If I was given the option to take it off the list I would.
It was only slightly ahead of 2 animated series - both of which only last 1 season!
My son and I went to a Star Trek convention when Gene Roddenbury announced that there would be a Star Trek movie, the first one and yes we went to see the movie when it came out. We’re still Star Trek fans!
I know it’s not a “real” show, but I would have to add Star Trek Continues to this list. I honestly consider it the “next season” of TOS
Yep.
why isn't it a real show? incredible effort
@@free4atlanta By that seanhill4535 probably meant because it is fan-made and not an official Star Trek production. Clearly he meant no disrespect of its production quality, which I agree is excellent.
1, TOS (The one I grew up with)
2, DS9 (Best written of the TNG Era Trek)
3, TNG (It brought Trek back)
4 Enterprise (Despite the canon breaking, it was a decent prequel attempt)
5 TAS (It really was a decent continuation of TOS)
6, Voyager (It had it's moments)
New Trek from Discovery onwards doesn't even register for me.
My list mostly matches Popcast's list, however I would have ranked Strange New Worlds a little higher just above Lower Decks. Interesting how Discovery is way down on the list on both Global ranking and Popcast ranking data. I think some of the takeaway is which series has the most number of compelling characters and stories. Voyager had a solid cast after Season 3. As did some of the others. Thank you for compiling this!
I’m watching the animated series now! It’s surprisingly entertaining!
Basically a continuation of the original series with a lot of the same top actors and the same great writers like Harlan Ellison who wrote City on the edge of forever. The animated series is a sleeper television show of all history
I'm glad to see Voyager finally getting the respect it deserves. It's my favorite!
If you haven't yet, watch Prodigy, it's basically a Voyager sequel by the end of Season 1
@@Elkott yeah it's upsetting they canned it
Amen. Voyager and Enterprise are GREAT Trek!
Voyager doesn’t deserve any respect, it had everything going for it, great premise, then proceeded to throw that premise away through lazy writing. All shows have a list of worst episodes, but Voyager had so many.
@@Elkott
I really hope they get someone to take over the show.
Could the fans have a go?
Captain! Seven of Nine sounds awesome
DS9 is objectively the best series, but choosing any of them as your favorite is completely understandable.
Discovery just started off on the most awkward first step it possibly could. So tied to the past but also ignoring so much canon at the same time.
This was really fascinating. I really have never thought that Voyager was that good, and everyone I have talked with or read said the same thing. So am surprised on how high it was on the list. I think Enterprise has always gotten a bum rap, and actually it a lot. While I like the actress who plays the lead on Discovery, I really feel that they drop the ball on delivering a true Star Trek experience, although I do like the fact that Pike showed up and they spun it off.
I really hated the camera work and lighting of Voyager. It looked so cheap.
My personal head canon is that TOS was the notable Kirk adventures from years 1-3, TAS and IDWs’ Year 4 comics were year 4, and IDW’s Star Trek Year 5 was that final year of the five year mission. Gene Roddenberry does not consider TAS canon, but IDW’s Year 4 and 5 comics clearly are a sequel to TAS. Because Lower Decks considers TAS canon, and IDW’s Year 4 and 5 comics are a sequel to TAS, those comics are at least Alpha and a half canon.
When name "Star Trek" is mentioned I pretty much think of "Original Series" and " The Next Generation ".
If Manny Coto had helmed all 4 seasons, it would have been top #3, easily.
Coto got what ENT was about, and managed to weave the old style of TOS episode structure into modern day popular TV audience demand.
The man created a show called Odyssey 5... and it's reviews hailed it as Star Trek in approach to modern day issues. That's what is missing from NuTrek that The Orville embraces... Tackling modern day issues that NuTrek is afraid to tackle... In case someone calls them out for offending them.
Call him what you will... Roddenbury was a brave man to stand against the tide of his era and put humanistic views on his modern day issues on screen with exploration of issues. Not dogmatic prejudgments.
Enterprise is the most underrated series of all time. For me is in #2 position.
for me its DS9, TNG, ENT, Voyager,TOS, Picard, Prodigy, Lower Decks, SNW, Disco , TAS
After Star Trek Enterprise, Star Trek died R.I.P.
SNW being 5th despite having only 20 episodes is proof that you can actually do that format today, do it well, and have it be a smash success.
Love the list. Thanks guys. Do you have a list for the movies? If not maybe for a future video…?
Future video for sure.
It makes me sad that the animated series was ranked last. It was a great series. It’s sad that many people won’t give it a chance. I saw it when it aired. It makes me happy that STD is the lowest rated live action series. I rank TNG slightly ahead of TOS in my top 2
IKR. Gazelle Automations and their retro-made clips got a lot of love from the fandom.
Feel the same as you about TAS. Was a teen when it premiered. It had its production flaws sure, but the stories were great (way better than the novels and comic books that came out at the time) and kept the dream of Star Trek alive when it looked like Star Trek was never to air new episodes ever again. Imo people of later generations have no idea how that must have felt. It was something to sustain us thru the Star Trek dark ages of the 1970s.
I have a challenge for you.
Rank the top Fan-Made star Trek Video Series.
There are a few, but some are more well known than the others!
I've been a fan since 1966 and found Prodigy riveting!
Did i miss Thursday's stream? Can't seem to find the stream or did it get taken down?
No, short story is, we both had to work a double and Brian was sick. We'll be back next week, thanks for thinking of us!
@@ThePopcastit's an addiction now... can't leave us hanging! 😂
I think that is a fair ranking.
Me at the beginning of this video:
This will be a definitive list! oh boy!!
Me after the first 2 minutes of the video:
SOME OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN WATCH ONE OF THE SERIES?!?!?
Wow, great work compiling all the data. Top five seems to be pretty much spot on, but personally I would rank SNW ahead of Voyager, but that is perhaps due to recency bias. TNG and DS9 are easily my two favorites in no particular order and that seems to be the concensus of most.
My personal ranking 🤔??
...no.1. is still DS9.
2. Strange New Worlds
3. Voyager
4. Lower Decks
5. TOS
6. TNG
7. Enterprise
8. Prodigy
9. TAS
10. Picard
11. Discovery
🖖❤️
Enterprise and Voyager will always be my favorite shows.
For me (and I am in my 60s), 1st TOS, 2nd TNG, 3rd Enterprise, 4th Voyager, 5th DS9.
Am 60's also ... switch DSN ans TNG ... and I agree with ya. 😊
I nearly agree with this just swap Enterprise and TNG
Putting voyager at #1 seems like trolling. But otherwise, no shock at all that the shows at top are the ones that have absolutely no Kurtzman association. Way to go, Alex!
@ThePopcast, very good and fair list on every angle. And the more I personally watch TNG (many I remember almost line by line having seen it during its original run as a child and preteen), that one will probably remain the GOAT Trek series for a long time to come.
Glad to see Enterprise get some love in your personal ranking. Highly underrated show, especially the 3rd and 4th seasons.
Also, for the last episode... Haha, what will Riker think of next? Writing a program with historical characters that completely changes events that really didn't happen that way. That rapscallion.
Hahaha 🤣 oh that Riker!
last episode talking about the program is inconsistent. It is implied that the program already exists and was suggested to Will to try being the chef by Troi. but then implies that Troi never ran the program before. A lot of people didn't like it as the last episode. I agree with them to a point because it was more of a TNG episode than a Ent send off... but still was a decent episode. Near the end of the run episode with some changes to Trip in particular would have been a great episode but gets heat for being the last.
I really enjoyed the episode as it does add some meat to the TNG episode.
The phrase you mean is "taken ABACK" not "taken back".
No one cares
TOS was by far the best IMO.
most of my favorite moments, characters, etc. are in DS9 and TNG so I guess I fall in with the majority.
The next generation was my favorite, but I´m watching DS9 for the first time! and oh boy! It's so good!!!
For the most part I agree. The pop cast ranking is more inline with my thoughts. Good to see Enterprise getting some love. No big surprise that the Nu-trek is dead last.
as a fan of the original Star Trek as well, as all of the features made after, I loved Galaxy Quest, and I would love to see continuing stories about those characters.
Excellent presentation. The global ranking is perhaps the most accurate list I've come across. I'm pleased to see Strange New Worlds getting a lot of love. Anson Mount plays Capt. Christopher Pike perfectly and could arguably be among the top three captains in the whole series. With Rebecca Romijn as Number One (Una) and Babs Olusanmokun as Dr. M'Benga, who is in my opinion the best doctor in the series, this spin off has the potential of growing more popular if the writing continually improves. I'm just thankful they pulled Mount's Capt. Pike character and Ethan Peck's version of Spock away from Discovery.
I love "Star Trek Continues". Should have been on the list as a surprise entry.
You need a bud light ranking for the Star Trek Day video Paramount put out
A true Star Trek / Sci-Fi fan , loves all of them ........ makes me laugh when people argue over Star Trek and Star Wars ..... they are Sci-Fi , that is all that counts .......
My list is very similar to yours. Enterprise is criminally underrated.
I understand the criteria and method for rankings on the "status quo" list, but I'm not understanding the methodology used for the Podcast ranking, what was the criteria used to build that list?
Agree. It’s almost the like the creators are trying to undercut their own methodology because they apparently don’t agree with the rankings. Kind of like: Well, this is what you said BUT somebody else ranks them differently!
Yeah I didn't understand this list. I've never watched anything from this channel before. I have no idea where the criteria comes from.
I think it would be interesting to see it based on country
Love watching the old Star Treks on Pluto. Also Picard, Strange New Worlds... awesome! Star Trek & Doctor Who are my two favourite SciFi shows.
Maybe someone voted on this, but they certainly didn't ask me. I've been a Star Trek fan since the Original series debuted in 1966. I would rank the shows in this order.
All I know is that I'm glad I exist in a reality with Star Trek.
It's a wonderful creation.
Glad to see Enterprise in the top 3. It was very different when it first aired, but it really shines on streaming. Also glad to see Discovery dead last. I gave that show more chances than it deserved, but it only got worse. However, if Picard only had S1-S2 I'd definitely rank that below last.
As a "boomer," I am partial to TOS. Like RMB, I am not a fan of (most) nuTrek. It would be interesting to see how the rankings would be if categorized by age.
Started TOS from day 1 when it came one. Also not a great fan of nuTrek, though I do like (most) Strange New Worlds and some Discovery. (The 'whispery' voice of Michael reminds me of Janeway at times.) What I don't like about nuTrek is, to me, becomes so convoluted with this and that ... too many threads, too many long sad good-byes..
I guessed T.N.G. would win, but personally I prefer Voyager, and apart from the tedious Xindi season, S.T. Enterprise.
Deep space 9 is my number 1 star trek
I guess now you can do a definitive list of what was the best movies of Star Trek 🙂 . But I did enjoy this video. Keep up the good work
Ooh. Good challenge.
1. Wrath of Khan
2. Voyage Home
3. Undiscovered Country
4. First Contact
5. Search for Spock
6. Star Trek (2009)
7. The Motion Picture
8. Final Frontier
9. Nemesis
10. Beyond
11. Generations
12. Into Darkness
13. Insurrection
... tbh 10-13 I could juggle around order.
@@rhysholdaway I can go with your list. With the exception of one movie. The final frontier I think might have been the worst outside of the very first Star Trek. The motion picture really wasn't that good
@@kapttainK gotta confess Final Frontier is bit of a guilty pleasure, "What does God need with a starship?” and The Motion Picture can be a bit of a bore, although there is a fan edit of this floating on the interweb mixed with the soundtrack from Tron that's actually quite cool.
Honestly, ds9 at 6th place is almost offensive... at least second. ❤
The only thing thats surprising is that TAS was the lowest and STD was so high.
I knew that there had to be more Voyager fans than just a few the past 20+ years!!! about time people are not afraid to admit they like Voyager, used to seem like a bad idea to admit it publicly lol
Your top 3 match my top 3 order! Between Strange New Worlds and Star Trek Picard, which one did better on the Nelson rating system? Can you guys do a clip on that or just let me know here?
Strange New Worlds charted double the times of Picard S3 in the Nielsen ratings this year. It was more popular.
@@TheStargazer0118 To clarify, Picard S3 charted in the Nielsen streaming Top 10 three times: twice at No. 9 (310M mins for Ep 5; 400M mins for Ep 10) and once at No. 10 (276M mins for Ep 9).
SNW S2 charted in the Top 10 seven times: twice at No. 7 (338M mins for Ep 1; 362M mins for Ep 9), once at No. 8 (393M min for Ep 2), twice at No. 9 (351M mins for Ep 4; 395M mins for Ep 8), and twice at No. 10 (324M mins for Ep 6 & 7 combined; 304M mins for Ep 10). Because Ep 7 dropped on the Saturday directly following the normal Thursday episode, I wouldn't be surprised in Ep 7's numbers were split between the week for Ep 6 and the week for Ep 8.
Nielsen wasn't tracking ratings for SNW S1. Interestingly, Paramount says that ratings are actually down in S2 compared to S1.
My list:
1 The Next Generation
2 The Orginal Series
3 Voyager
4 Enterprise
Ds9, TOS, SNW, LD, Voy/Ent, TNG, Disco
Yes, my list would be almost exactly like this, though I would take out TOS out of the list to be honest. TOS was a groundbreaking show during it's time, and the one that started it all when Gene Roddenberry had no idea if the concept would even work or not.
The animated series had some fantastic music.
ds9s dominon war arce is my nr. 1 fav story arc maybe even best arc in any tv show i have ever seen.....and i have seen alot.
The official Popcast list is *wild* lol. Did y'all just throw darts at posters of the shows to choose the order?
😂 it's based on rewatchability, plus Brian's a Seven of Nine super fan.
Is any of this series connected to Kelvin timeline??
I’ll leave out the show I haven’t seen (Prodigy) and just give a top 10.
1) DS9: the show that effectively launched Serialized TV and proved you didn’t have to Trek anywhere to explore the true Final Frontier
2) TOS: a show that consistently overcame the limitations of 60s TV with its episodic story telling, by telling stories worth seeing, and effectively launched sci-fi into the mainstream
3) SNW: a return to Trek’s roots as an optimistic and fun storytelling medium, lead by a Captain I honestly can’t get enough of on screen
4) TNG: the show that struggled for three years to find its voice, began mixing episodic and serialized storytelling, presented some of the greatest Trek we could hope for to propel the franchise forward, but ultimately for me struggled to be a true ensemble show and devolved into just telling stories about Picard and Data and occasionally Worf, with the rest given what normally were fairly weak stories
5) Enterprise: unlike TNG it wasn’t given the chance to find its way after struggling for the first two years before giving us the Xindi in s3 and then finally getting to telling about the origin of the Federation in s4. The show gave me an entire cast of like able characters but struggled for too long with weak storytelling and the unfortunate sexploitation inherited from the success of 7 of 9 in her skin tight suits
6) Voyager: this show had the opposite issues of Enterprise for me, with normally strong stories over the course of 7 seasons, but a cast of characters that I didn’t like besides Janeway, or who struggled to ever create a consistent identity like Chakotay, and an unfortunate regression to a more TNG like episodic nature of storytelling for a show that screamed out to be more serialized in dealing with the struggles of returning home and integrating the Marquis into a Starfleet crew. Ronald Moore leaving this show to do exactly what this show should have been on Battlestar Galactica is why better stories weren’t enough to surpass Enterprise in my rankings
7) TAS: the advantages of giving us the fourth and fifth TOS seasons were bogged down by cost saving issues for the cast, and stories that were sometimes not up to the standards of TOS.
8) Picard: s3 did not work for me at all, I’ve never been a huge fan of TNG as evidenced by its ranking on my list, so pure nostalgia wasn’t enough to keep me interested, I was already bored of the Borg by the time they returned on Voyager, so definitely didn’t need three more seasons of them on Picard, and thought their handling of the Founders proved the writers never actually watched DS9 with how horribly they were used. In all honesty, I much preferred the first two seasons of the show
9) LD: I do not like this show at all, it feels like someone had The Orville described to them, and decided to make Family Guy Trek, but missed out on all the great episodes of Orville and just heard the fart jokes
10) STD: I cannot stand this show at all, I forced myself to get through the end of s2 just because I love Pike that much, but this show just doesn’t work for me at all. Characters only delivering monologues, never having dialogues. Making every single thing the most dramatic thing you’ve ever seen, even just running a marathon, and stopping that for yet another dramatic monologue. Characters that I honestly dislike, not just don’t like. Just the absolute worst Trek ever for me
It's rare that I see Voyager at the top and that's where I always place it.
Except for the switch of DS9 and Picard (only watched the first season and then gave up...) this list is what I'd come up with.
And yeah... Perhaps I'll go and finally watch the cartoons now that this video poked me into that direction :)
11. Discovery - after that, it's too hard to rank them for me. I consider DS9 and TNG a virtual tie at #1. I like all the rest of them for different reasons, but I can't rank them.
1. The Next Generation
2. Deep Space Nine
3. Lower Decks
4. The Original Series
5. The Animated Series
6. Prodigy
7. Voyager
8. Enterprise
9. Strange New Worlds
10. Picard
11. Discovery
Normally, I would have put everything up to 2005 as the top 6 but Prodigy and Lower Decks are actually good and fresh for me.
Also, Tuvok is not the “first black Vulcan” because _Star Trek V: The Final Frontier_ had a black female Vulcan as a midwife to Amanda Grayson.
I appreciate you gathering the Data, the list looks about right for overall quality and Picard and Discovery should be at the bottom of anyone's list.
Pleasantly surprised to see Voyager on top of you guys' list 🤜🤛It's my #1 as well and I agree wholeheartedly regarding it's re-watchability. I liken it to comfort food. I got DS9 at #2 and TNG at #3.
10, 8, 11 is the order it appears in the list. 12 is empty 9 is empty, but 10, 8, 11 is how the order it was put up. Anyone else noticing that...the first 3 entries were wacked out of order 😂
Also,
Old Synth Picard is Not TNG Picard. Why didn't TNG get representation in that wonderful graphic? :(
Mariner is an Ensign, Data or Riker coulda been there. 😢 😊
I really don’t want to know the definitive list of Star Trek, I just know what I like and at 67 I know I’m right!
Here are my top three
1. DS9
2. TNG
3. Enterprise
Honorable mention SNW. I'm sure in time it will crack the top 3.
TOS, Enterprise, Voyager, DS9, and TNG. in that order.
I think TAS is the least known so it's hurt because of that, it's a great show top five easily.
1) TOS
2) DS9
3) TAS
4) Lower Decks
5) Voyager
6) TNG
7) Enterprise
8) Prodigy
9) Star Trek Picard
10) Strange New Worlds
11) Discovery
Absolute crime that lower decks is ranked higher than Enterprise
People are missing out on some great episodes of Star Trek in the Animated TOS series.