I forgot how many Internet ninjas there are. “That would never work on me because my chakras are aligned differently.” “It takes less than one ounce of pressure to drive your opponent’s nose into his brain.” “If you tried this on a combat vet it would never work.” Hey fellas, it’s a tool for your tool box. It’s showing an example of a control method. It’s not done statically. With training and done dynamically I could see this being very effective. The trick is to have enough training that if this doesn’t work for you just flow into something that does. But unless we’re talking about throwing chi bursts at your opponent it’s pretty short sighted to say unequivocally this wouldn’t work. Maybe look for things you CAN learn from this and go from there.
@@ApertureFightFocused I am subscribed. I’m also a lifelong martial artist, prior military and LE/Corrections. I’ve seen things that work, things that don’t work and things that MAY or MAY not work depending on a whole host circumstances. Based on my experiences I have to say that PTK is a very solid platform to train in.
yes it is a tool for the tool box ... but you dont use a tac hammer to to drive an 8inch spike ... you use a proper hammer ... THAT is the point the method he demonstrated is for PRONE or a 2 person take down.... what he demonstrated is NOT a single person tactic unless they are already on the ground ...
@@jtr2087 Well said, the truth is the platform PTK offers is sound. The closing the triangle explanation alone made the video worth watching, because it applied to so many grappling techniques. There are so many variables in any given situation, you go with what you've got in that moment and that changes moment to moment. That's why we put so much in to training. I've lost count of how many variations of an armbar I've been put in lol.
@@user-cm4op2kz3y I'm really glad to hear that. Unlike here in the US where I live, police academy lacks here when it comes to training of when to use non lethal weapon or not in a rough situation. Keep in mind that every state law is different here in the US since there are 50 states with so many different laws. And I believe half of those states really lacks training police officers properly when using non lethal weapons and real lethal weapons.
@@mr.artist7247 no? If you're referring to the neck technique, that's only necessary if there were no other options. For example, it's just you versus a dangerous strong man that is out of control and you need to use deadly force. Again, ONLY use it when you're in a deadly situation.
@@ApertureFightFocused @1:36 you are set in your compliance position ... the way out ... step back with right foot ... drop to knee hip shoulder pulling you along extend knees and legs as you roll tossing the handler on to their back away from you .. shoulder roll and drive a fist into your wind pipe .. you are dead before you have recovered from the surprise ... BAD MOVE to teach from a standing position
great video to show someone how to get themselves killed by someone who doesnt panic ... that move has 3 different ways to break it all 3 of them can end in the perosn applying the holds death ... the one I added to reply to the teacher is the first I would use .. as it succeeds 89% of the time and results in a silent quick death with minimal effort ... how do I know I am HAND to HAND combat TRAINED ... this is the WRONG move to use from a standing position ... it will kill the perosn trying to apply it before they can get it done.
Remember that this is training, not simulation --- learning new things require a safe progressive approach especially when being taught to a group, wouldn't you agree?
Because in real life situation the guy holding is moving those feet as part of the take down, the guy being held has less tactile awareness so would have look at the moving target then put himself on one foot to stomp. 99.99% of the time you'll be face down the other 00.01% that hold will just tighten and you'll be face down.
@@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop if you panic in violence of action situations than yes but don't just accept pain compliance and think that the subject is willing and unthinking
@@matthewmassago6004 I never suggested doing nothing if held like that, stay as calm as like but unless the guy with the baton is a statue you'll miss with that stomp, and your on one foot. It's about leverage not pain compliance. You offered a solution to break the hold that only works in a macdojo or the movie's bro, go give yourself a stern talking to will you.
@@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop I think you need to train for real life not perfect scenarios show me how I can fuck this up then show me how I can fix it cause life is not static
@@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop being hand to hand combat trained ... the problem with this method is when you come across a more experienced person such as a vet you pull this ... you will be on the ground with the baton being rammed into you repeatedly ... and from experience no cop will do this move properly every time NOR ever in the heat of the moment ... that being said ... the better version is to force the person to the ground then do this ... because if you do the arm bar portion wrong or hesitate and the personyou are trying to restrain will stomp the shit out of you before you realize what has happened ... worst move to teach a person who wont use it every day ... like military persone
I like how they have to be told and reminded "We dont use the stick at someone's neck if it is not a deadly force situation".............................and then they wonder why people call them pigs.
I forgot how many Internet ninjas there are. “That would never work on me because my chakras are aligned differently.”
“It takes less than one ounce of pressure to drive your opponent’s nose into his brain.”
“If you tried this on a combat vet it would never work.”
Hey fellas, it’s a tool for your tool box. It’s showing an example of a control method. It’s not done statically. With training and done dynamically I could see this being very effective. The trick is to have enough training that if this doesn’t work for you just flow into something that does. But unless we’re talking about throwing chi bursts at your opponent it’s pretty short sighted to say unequivocally this wouldn’t work. Maybe look for things you CAN learn from this and go from there.
I am so glad you commented. I hope you are a subscriber. We need more people like you here.
@@ApertureFightFocused I am subscribed. I’m also a lifelong martial artist, prior military and LE/Corrections. I’ve seen things that work, things that don’t work and things that MAY or MAY not work depending on a whole host circumstances. Based on my experiences I have to say that PTK is a very solid platform to train in.
yes it is a tool for the tool box ... but you dont use a tac hammer to to drive an 8inch spike ... you use a proper hammer ... THAT is the point the method he demonstrated is for PRONE or a 2 person take down.... what he demonstrated is NOT a single person tactic unless they are already on the ground ...
@@0623kaboom I’ve used similar tactics. Straight arm bar takedown. Wrist lock takedown. I suppose it comes down to your level of training.
@@jtr2087 Well said, the truth is the platform PTK offers is sound. The closing the triangle explanation alone made the video worth watching, because it applied to so many grappling techniques. There are so many variables in any given situation, you go with what you've got in that moment and that changes moment to moment. That's why we put so much in to training. I've lost count of how many variations of an armbar I've been put in lol.
This technique is very convenient. I think every police officer and security people should know this trick.
I work in security and in my country it's required by law to know this technique, really useful in the real world.
@@user-cm4op2kz3y I'm really glad to hear that. Unlike here in the US where I live, police academy lacks here when it comes to training of when to use non lethal weapon or not in a rough situation. Keep in mind that every state law is different here in the US since there are 50 states with so many different laws. And I believe half of those states really lacks training police officers properly when using non lethal weapons and real lethal weapons.
Isn't this torture?
@@mr.artist7247 no? If you're referring to the neck technique, that's only necessary if there were no other options. For example, it's just you versus a dangerous strong man that is out of control and you need to use deadly force. Again, ONLY use it when you're in a deadly situation.
@@techfrank2431 Still torture
Great video! Love it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ApertureFightFocused @1:36 you are set in your compliance position ... the way out ... step back with right foot ... drop to knee hip shoulder pulling you along extend knees and legs as you roll tossing the handler on to their back away from you .. shoulder roll and drive a fist into your wind pipe .. you are dead before you have recovered from the surprise ... BAD MOVE to teach from a standing position
great video to show someone how to get themselves killed by someone who doesnt panic ... that move has 3 different ways to break it all 3 of them can end in the perosn applying the holds death ... the one I added to reply to the teacher is the first I would use .. as it succeeds 89% of the time and results in a silent quick death with minimal effort ... how do I know I am HAND to HAND combat TRAINED ... this is the WRONG move to use from a standing position ... it will kill the perosn trying to apply it before they can get it done.
Remember that this is training, not simulation --- learning new things require a safe progressive approach especially when being taught to a group, wouldn't you agree?
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GOD BLESS R.I.P. BROWN !
What happened???
What about the top of the foot to break the hold
Because in real life situation the guy holding is moving those feet as part of the take down, the guy being held has less tactile awareness so would have look at the moving target then put himself on one foot to stomp.
99.99% of the time you'll be face down the other 00.01% that hold will just tighten and you'll be face down.
@@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop if you panic in violence of action situations than yes but don't just accept pain compliance and think that the subject is willing and unthinking
@@matthewmassago6004 I never suggested doing nothing if held like that, stay as calm as like but unless the guy with the baton is a statue you'll miss with that stomp, and your on one foot. It's about leverage not pain compliance. You offered a solution to break the hold that only works in a macdojo or the movie's bro, go give yourself a stern talking to will you.
@@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop I think you need to train for real life not perfect scenarios show me how I can fuck this up then show me how I can fix it cause life is not static
@@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop being hand to hand combat trained ... the problem with this method is when you come across a more experienced person such as a vet you pull this ... you will be on the ground with the baton being rammed into you repeatedly ... and from experience no cop will do this move properly every time NOR ever in the heat of the moment ... that being said ... the better version is to force the person to the ground then do this ... because if you do the arm bar portion wrong or hesitate and the personyou are trying to restrain will stomp the shit out of you before you realize what has happened ... worst move to teach a person who wont use it every day ... like military persone
I like how they have to be told and reminded "We dont use the stick at someone's neck if it is not a deadly force situation".............................and then they wonder why people call them pigs.
So the uniformed cowards get some "training".
trump won
@@boomhauer0079 No support for Trump nor Biden here. Left and right hand of the same devil.
These uniformed cowards may be the ones who come save your ass during a home invasion..
@@moosieeeeee They come during what ? 911 whats your emergency ? Sorry all units are currently busy......