Quite interesting, especially as My first car was a 1961 Impala ss 409. Did all sorts of work on it, headers, carb jetting, 4.11 rear end, larger exhaust pipes and free flow mufflers and Atlas Bucron tires and best I could manage was a 13.19, which really was a super performance back in the early to mid 60's .....fast until the hemi's came out but took most of a year before guys learned how to tune them and make them fast. Funny how you can now buy an 11 second car with stock tires and go low 12's and easy to do slight mods and they go 11's! But damn, those 50-60 year old memories dies slowly! 😢
I had a 62 Impala 409 with 2 four barrels and fender well headers. They did run and sounded so good then. I moved over to Dodge when the 440 Six Pack came out. I have a Scat Pack now, and I’m glad muscle cars made a comeback before I go out.
These cars are getting so old that it's probably a stretch to find something that is truly 'stock.' Nevertheless, they are probably about as close as you can get and they are a great measure of how fast modern cars are....and how far automotive engineering has come. I take everything I own to the track eventually. My F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost has a best of 14.50. And my daily bmw 440i's best was 12.99 stock and 12.35 with a safe and mild tune. Great video and production. Edit is spot on. Burnouts and staging games are edited out. Just stage, race, results, next..... Great work
Most of them that ran in the 12s cheated. Very few 1960s/1970s muscle cars ever got into the 12s when they were bone stock. The only ones I know for a fact could do it were the rare 1969½ A12 package cars (Road Runners and Super Bees). There were a couple/few of them in this video and their times were about the same as the ~12.7-second times MotorTrend achieved with them when they were brand new (they were the first production street car MotorTrend ever tested that ran in the 12s while being completely stock).
@@Jremo1979 No, it doesn't, which is why several of the 1969½ A12 Road Runners / Super Bees in this video ran around 12.7 seconds in the quarter mile, exactly like they did bone stock in 1969 when tested by MotorTrend magazine. Those guys weren't cheating like many others in this video were.
The camera placement was nice, you can get some sense of the speed from these old beauties. Too many people point it down the track from behind the cars and it`s 13 seconds of not much.
@ 5:49 that GTO ran exactly the way I would expect in truly stock condition with attention to timing and carb. That seems super legit to me compared to as I modified mine from stock. Headers/exhaust loose a couple tenths or more depending on if you power tuned it before or not. Headers/exhaust help a Pontiac very noticeably much like a mid 90s LT1 small block both suffer from lowly exhaust flow in the heads.
Some of these ETs seem believeable. A few don't, however. I had a '65, 350 HP Chevelle SS, and it never could run a mid-13. My best is about a 14 flat at 94 mph. Some tweaking is going on here. Nonetheless, a very cool vid. :-) I love these old cars!
These Cars Are Modded. Pure Stock Allows Building And Boring Engines. Just Have To Keep Certain Parts Stock. I Know They're Not Allowed To Have Aftermarket Headers
@IDontNeedSecurityInTheClub you just named one of the only parts they allow modification to, and that's only to allow for rebuilds to compete. They're still about 95% stock
Man, I dig the muscle car drags, but it looks more like a "run what you brung" event... an ET of 12.40 for a 1967 SS396 Chevelle is two full seconds faster than stock...
The Ram Air 3 was a rebranded 400 HO. The Ram Air 4 is nearly identical to a RA2. I think the 68 Firebirds had a small weight advantage. There is a 69 GTO in this event with a RA4 that does low 12s.
pure stock ? should change it to pure super stock that stock hemi cuda had no chance good thing there no stock ford pinto there with a good tune lol . half of them are sand bagging all in good fun
20:45 - Leave it to a Chevy guy to cheat. There's no such thing as a stock '66 or '67 Chevelle that runs in the 12s at all, let alone a 12.46. 14s is more like it. The A12 Road Runner on the other hand, ran exactly what it was supposed to. When MotorTrend tested one when they were new, it ran a 12.7 or so, and was the first production street car they ever tested that ran in the 12s while being completely stock. The A12 Road Runner (along with its near twin: the A12 Super Bee) was one of the few muscle cars that ran in the 12s stock, so most, if not all, of the other ones in this video running in the 12s (to say nothing of 11s) are owned by cheaters. Edit: And another Chevy cheater at 22:23. The idea of a stock 396 Chevelle running mid 12s is utterly laughable, while the A12 Super Bee that he raced against's 12.60 time was just about what it was supposed to be.
Some of the best heads up racing I’ve seen in a long long time! Not to mention the absolutely most incredible stock classics from my best years!
Love this! Those were the days and I remember them well with my 70 W31 Olds.
Love the Pure Stock Class, no gimmicks, just pure street muscle!
Thanks Mark. We participants all really appreciate the video's.
Coool video. I wish this type of racing was more popular.
Quite interesting, especially as My first car was a 1961 Impala ss 409. Did all sorts of work on it, headers, carb jetting, 4.11 rear end, larger exhaust pipes and free flow mufflers and Atlas Bucron tires and best I could manage was a 13.19, which really was a super performance back in the early to mid 60's .....fast until the hemi's came out but took most of a year before guys learned how to tune them and make them fast. Funny how you can now buy an 11 second car with stock tires and go low 12's and easy to do slight mods and they go 11's! But damn, those 50-60 year old memories dies slowly! 😢
I had a 62 Impala 409 with 2 four barrels and fender well headers. They did run and sounded so good then. I moved over to Dodge when the 440 Six Pack came out. I have a Scat Pack now, and I’m glad muscle cars made a comeback before I go out.
right but those new cars are modded with blowers traction control etc...and theyre NOT stock they just modded by a company with millions to play with
Thanks for the upload Mark!
I’m gonna say that the cars that were in the 12s represent people who not only know how to tune the car but also drive.
Great racing, thanks for posting!
These cars are getting so old that it's probably a stretch to find something that is truly 'stock.' Nevertheless, they are probably about as close as you can get and they are a great measure of how fast modern cars are....and how far automotive engineering has come. I take everything I own to the track eventually. My F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost has a best of 14.50. And my daily bmw 440i's best was 12.99 stock and 12.35 with a safe and mild tune.
Great video and production. Edit is spot on. Burnouts and staging games are edited out. Just stage, race, results, next.....
Great work
@@Boblib1970 thanks for the feedback. I’ll be back again this year.
Commendable performance by these cars. A mid-12 pass is respectable even by today's muscle car standards.
Most of them that ran in the 12s cheated. Very few 1960s/1970s muscle cars ever got into the 12s when they were bone stock. The only ones I know for a fact could do it were the rare 1969½ A12 package cars (Road Runners and Super Bees). There were a couple/few of them in this video and their times were about the same as the ~12.7-second times MotorTrend achieved with them when they were brand new (they were the first production street car MotorTrend ever tested that ran in the 12s while being completely stock).
@@MaximRecoil Tires are a bit different these days
... Makes all the difference.
@@Jremo1979 No, it doesn't, which is why several of the 1969½ A12 Road Runners / Super Bees in this video ran around 12.7 seconds in the quarter mile, exactly like they did bone stock in 1969 when tested by MotorTrend magazine. Those guys weren't cheating like many others in this video were.
Thanks for the video.
Missed it this year, thank you for letting me watch it
Thanks for the upload!
The camera placement was nice, you can get some sense of the speed from these old beauties. Too many people point it down the track from behind the cars and it`s 13 seconds of not much.
Great video. Today s cars are so much faster. It s crazy.
Thank you for sharing this video
@ 5:49 that GTO ran exactly the way I would expect in truly stock condition with attention to timing and carb. That seems super legit to me compared to as I modified mine from stock. Headers/exhaust loose a couple tenths or more depending on if you power tuned it before or not. Headers/exhaust help a Pontiac very noticeably much like a mid 90s LT1 small block both suffer from lowly exhaust flow in the heads.
Some of these ETs seem believeable. A few don't, however. I had a '65, 350 HP Chevelle SS, and it never could run a mid-13. My best is about a 14 flat at 94 mph. Some tweaking is going on here. Nonetheless, a very cool vid. :-) I love these old cars!
I was there that fay. Awesome cars.
Love every one of them❤❤❤❤😂
People say these cars are slow, but have to remember with some mild tuning and a set of headers, many can easily run in the 12s or even 11s.
And a great variety of affordable factory off the shelf bolt on part available too!
Slow.... Slow... What car runs 13'z for 20k today off the floor😉
These Cars Are Modded. Pure Stock Allows Building And Boring Engines. Just Have To Keep Certain Parts Stock. I Know They're Not Allowed To Have Aftermarket Headers
@@shawnbaird2015 02 trans am
@IDontNeedSecurityInTheClub you just named one of the only parts they allow modification to, and that's only to allow for rebuilds to compete. They're still about 95% stock
I have owned a few nice 1969 Pontiac Gto 400 Firebird 455. my 70 Chevells BB 4 sp was the fastest
Man, I dig the muscle car drags, but it looks more like a "run what you brung" event... an ET of 12.40 for a 1967 SS396 Chevelle is two full seconds faster than stock...
L78 screamer car. The 1966 and 1967 cars were a little lighter than later models, but I’d guess there are some legal mods to the vehicle.
Like an ordinary Friday night in 1970.
Chevy does it again
It seems as though the ram air 2 cars are faster than the ram air 3&4 cars
The Ram Air 3 was a rebranded 400 HO. The Ram Air 4 is nearly identical to a RA2. I think the 68 Firebirds had a small weight advantage. There is a 69 GTO in this event with a RA4 that does low 12s.
American muscle
pure stock ? should change it to pure super stock that stock hemi cuda had no chance good thing there no stock ford pinto there with a good tune lol . half of them are sand bagging all in good fun
20:45 - Leave it to a Chevy guy to cheat. There's no such thing as a stock '66 or '67 Chevelle that runs in the 12s at all, let alone a 12.46. 14s is more like it. The A12 Road Runner on the other hand, ran exactly what it was supposed to. When MotorTrend tested one when they were new, it ran a 12.7 or so, and was the first production street car they ever tested that ran in the 12s while being completely stock.
The A12 Road Runner (along with its near twin: the A12 Super Bee) was one of the few muscle cars that ran in the 12s stock, so most, if not all, of the other ones in this video running in the 12s (to say nothing of 11s) are owned by cheaters.
Edit: And another Chevy cheater at 22:23. The idea of a stock 396 Chevelle running mid 12s is utterly laughable, while the A12 Super Bee that he raced against's 12.60 time was just about what it was supposed to be.
BS.BS.BS.Chevy ruled
@@stefanovichmichael9686 Your non sequitur is dismissed, simple fellow, and since you have no arguments of any kind, your tacit concession is noted.
@@MaximRecoil Truth obviously hurts you.
@@stefanovichmichael9686 Your non sequitur is dismissed and your tacit concession remains noted.
They don’t take “pure STOCK” too seriously eh? These races are awesome, but no way are most of these case anywhere near stock.
Slowest muscle cars I've ever seen 🤔
Camera man suuuuucks
Slow
slow
right but theyre not supercharged with traction control
@@gearyheidinewaccount3237not to mention being 50 years old ….I wonder how well Toyota performed 50 years ago ?