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  • Testing the world's fastest, most powerful, best all-around classic Muscle Car! From sheer horsepower to emergency braking, these cars are pushed to the limits!
    Legendary Motorcar & Dream Car Garage present MUSCLE CAR SHOOTOUT! 7 original muscle cars. 5 tests. 1 winner.
    Starring:
    1969 AMX 390 Go Package
    1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1
    1970 Dodge Hemi Challenger
    1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6
    1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429
    1969 Hurst Oldsmobile
    1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
    Utilizing the same tires, same brake pads, and same conditions, who will reign supreme? Peter Klutt and Tom Hnatiw ignite over 3000 horsepower in a series of 0-60 and 1/4 mile acceleration, 60-0 braking, fastest slalom and longest burnout, the FASTEST MUSCLE CAR OF ALL TIME will be crowned!
    1. 1969 AMC AMX 390 Go Package
    The AMC AMX is a two-seat GT-style muscle car produced by American Motors Corporation from 1968 through 1970. As one of just two American-built two-seaters, the AMX was in direct competition with the one-inch (2.5 cm) longer wheelbase Chevrolet Corvette, for substantially less money. The Go Pack on the 1969 AMC AMX included the 390 cu in (6.4 L) high-output four-barrel V8 engine with a dual exhaust system and chromed exhaust tips, heavy-duty cooling system, power front disc brakes, uprated suspension for improved handling, "Twin-Grip" limited-slip differential, wide-tread red striped tires mounted on five-spoke "Magnum 500" wheels, and over-the-top racing stripes.
    2. 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1
    The Gran Sport 400 was replaced for 1970 with the Buick 455 cu in (7.5 L) V8 engine, used in the GS 455. The base model was rated at 350 bhp (355 PS; 261 kW) and 510 lb⋅ft (691 N⋅m; 71 kg⋅m) at 2800 rpm of torque. In the optional Stage 1 trim equipped with a single 4-barrel Rochester Quadrajet carburetor was rated at 360 bhp (365 PS; 268 kW) SAE gross at 4600 rpm and 510 lb⋅ft (691 N⋅m; 71 kg⋅m) of torque at 2800 rpm.
    3. 1970 Dodge Hemi Challenger
    Challenger R/T, with a 426 cu in (7.0 L) Hemi rated at 425 hp (431 PS; 317 kW) at 5,000 rpm and 490 lb⋅ft (664 N⋅m) of torque at 4,000 rpm. The standard transmission was a 3-speed manual. The R/T was available in either the hardtop or convertible. The Challenger R/T came with a Rallye instrument cluster that included a 150 mph (240 km/h) speedometer, an 8,000 rpm tachometer and an oil pressure gauge.
    4. 1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS6
    The SS 454 included the 360-hp, LS5 454, heavy-duty suspension, SS wheels, power front disc brakes, dual exhausts with chrome tips, wheel arch moldings, blacked-out grilles and the SS rear bumper treatment. The LS6's iron block was outfitted with four-bolt main caps for added strength. Inside, forged-aluminum pistons and forged-steel connecting rods swung from a forged-steel crankshaft. The LS6 used solid lifters and an aggressive cam with .520 lift and 316 degrees duration.
    5. 1969 Mustang Boss 429
    Only offered for two years, the Mustang BOSS 429 was advertised at 375 bhp (380 PS; 280 kW) at 5200 rpm and 450 lb⋅ft (610 N⋅m) of torque at 3400 rpm. The speed equipment manufacturer Crane Cams tested engines that were stock as manufactured, with the exception of substituting tubular headers for the stock cast iron exhaust manifolds. For the 1969 hydraulic cam engine, they measured a peak of 352.0 bhp (262 kW) at 5500 rpm. The 1970 mechanical cam engine measured better, with a peak of 366.5 bhp (273 kW), also at 5500 rpm.
    6. 1969 Hurst Oldsmobile
    Following the success of Hurst components in Oldsmobile's 442 models, Oldsmobile, in collaboration with Hurst Performance, produced special-edition performance versions of the 442 or Cutlass Supreme, the Hurst/Olds. The 455 cubic-inch Rocket V8 (W46) was rated at 380 horsepower (280 kW) and 500 lb/ft of torque. The engine received a unique intake manifold, chrome steel valve covers, and a special vacuum operated air cleaner lid to allow cold air from the hood scoop into the carburetor. This was backed up by a specially calibrated code OH Turbo 400 transmission and 3.42 gears for non-A/C cars or 3.08 gears for cars with A/C. Optional 3.91 gears were available only for non-A/C cars.
    7. 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
    The 1969 GTO Judge engine was the Pontiac 400-cid/366-hp Ram Air III V-8. It came linked to a three-speed manual transmission with a floor-mounted Hurst T-handle shifter and a 3.55:1 rear axle. The more powerful 400-cid/370-hp Ram Air IV engine was installed in 759 cars in the same two lines and 59 of these cars were convertibles. The Judge option was added to 6,725 GTO two-door hardtops and only 108 GTO ragtops.
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  • @legendarymotorcar
    @legendarymotorcar  3 роки тому +38

    0:00 Introduction
    4:19 0-to-60 run | Chevelle, AMX, Hurst/Olds, Boss 429
    6:28 Car profile | 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1
    8:09 0-to-60 run | Buick, Challenger, GTO Judge
    9:30 60-to-0 braking | Challenger, Buick
    12:10 Car profile | 1969 AMC AMX 390 Go Pack
    13:30 60-to-0 braking | AMX, Chevelle, GTO Judge, Hurst/Olds, Boss 429
    15:55 Slalom | Hurst/Olds, Chevelle
    17:55 Car profile | 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429
    20:50 Slalom | Boss 429
    21:34 Car profile | 1969 Pontiac GTO "The Judge"
    23:25 Slalom | GTO Judge, Buick, Challenger, AMX
    25:30 Quarter mile | GTO Judge, Challenger
    27:40 Car profile | 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS-6
    30:10 Quarter mile | Chevelle, AMX
    32:12 Car profile | 1969 Hurst Oldsmobile
    34:18 Quarter mile | Hurst/Olds, Boss 429, Buick
    36:25 Burnout | Hurst/Olds, Chevelle
    38:05 Car profile | 1970 Dodge Hemi Challenger R/T
    40:05 Burnout | Challenger, AMX, Boss 429, GTO Judge, Buick
    42:17 Final Results

    • @chrisgreenaway6696
      @chrisgreenaway6696 3 роки тому +3

      You have this test wrong . You should’ve done pony cars. Then Duke em out then midsize Duke out because a mid size will lose 75% time to the lighter car

    • @lesgreenberg8900
      @lesgreenberg8900 3 роки тому +2

      The right car one nobody can deny that.... There was a reason they call it the boss

    • @FrankStein1
      @FrankStein1 3 роки тому

      Something wrong with the motor on the AMX it is not that low in a 0-60 run. I won't blame the driver because i think higher of him than that. But either way if you wanted the best AMC from 70 you should've used " The Machine " with the service performance package. Those cars wouldn't keep up. Anyone in the 70's knew if one of those showed up to the track they could just put their cars on the trailer because The Machine was a runner. Low 10's

    • @lesgreenberg8900
      @lesgreenberg8900 3 роки тому

      The avg quart mile time on the amx Iis. 14.2-14.5...
      92-96. Mph

    • @chrisgreenaway6696
      @chrisgreenaway6696 3 роки тому +1

      @@FrankStein1 with drag slicks and some minor carb adjustments

  • @warmonger1389
    @warmonger1389 3 роки тому +135

    The best muscle car is the one you own, care for and love. Chevy, Ford, Pontiac whatever, they're all cool.

    • @packingten
      @packingten 3 роки тому +3

      They are all special& winners!.

    • @207shenanigans
      @207shenanigans 2 роки тому +4

      Very true, except for mustangs

    • @dinadaughtry8993
      @dinadaughtry8993 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly,as long as it's a Mopar

    • @chrism6195
      @chrism6195 Рік тому +1

      @Kris Salts not sure why you think a 2016 should even be mentioned in a thread like this. I own a 69 Camaro the real deal not some new remake. I have zero respect for these new cars and their owners. You go buy something while I have spent years restoring and building mine. If you are looking for something else to add go buy a classic put the work into it and you will have something to be proud of

    • @robertbrown374
      @robertbrown374 Рік тому

      Im a slut i love them all lol
      Have 1971 GS

  • @gunguru7020
    @gunguru7020 3 роки тому +36

    In my town muscle cars all carried a legendary status through the years. People still talk about Billy's chevelle, remember Mike's mustang? That thing was built!! and on and on. 30-50 years later they are iconic and a part of community history. I love car culture.

  • @juantomas3630
    @juantomas3630 3 роки тому +44

    Those were the days when cars didn't look like every other car !!! When cars looked HOT and BEAUTIFUL !!

  • @paratrooperlane7022
    @paratrooperlane7022 3 роки тому +142

    A Boss 429 would be my pick, I don't care about who is the fastest. I want a car that looks good and sounds great and for me it's a Boss.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 3 роки тому +14

      The 1969 Mustang Sport-roof is by far the best looking Muscle Car ever designed.
      I'd take one with any engine.

    • @melissaweidman3326
      @melissaweidman3326 3 роки тому +15

      i like my 68 mustang cobra 428 cj with dual quads all factory

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 3 роки тому +2

      @Steve Miller I totally agree with you, so many cars from the mid '60s to about 1971 are IMO classics in form and function. I Can't deny how great a Cuda or Camaro look. The '68 Fastback Mustang, 390/4-Speed, who wouldn't want to feel like Steve McQueen driving around.
      Still though, the 1969 Mustang Styling somehow captures what I think is the epitome of the era.
      I'd like to add that growing up (I'm 60 years old) my older cousin had a 1981 BOSS 351, OMG that was a Spaceship/Cool car.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 3 роки тому +8

      @@melissaweidman3326 Sweet, an early CJ in a 1968 Mustang, how wonderful.

    • @reidthompson8979
      @reidthompson8979 3 роки тому +6

      For me in a muscle car, I want something you don’t see as much, is more rare and unique, but could still blow the doors off other muscle cars. That’s why the Buick is my top pick and has been for years

  • @bruceholinight7978
    @bruceholinight7978 3 роки тому +27

    I was 16 in 1969 and wouldn't have it any other way , I rode in and owned several muscle cars including a hemi cuda but the one that really stood out was the GTO judge , it seemed so fast back then ! The other was a Ford Couger with a 427 side oiler , you could buy any of these killer cars used for $2-3 thousand ! I love em all !

    • @robertbrown374
      @robertbrown374 Рік тому +2

      You lived the dream

    • @robertrogersjr1581
      @robertrogersjr1581 Рік тому

      69 was the year I was born and I got me a 72 GTO when I was 16 GTO is my favorite car then it still is today I give anything's on my original car back

    • @tracynunn429
      @tracynunn429 Рік тому +1

      I agree love them all Friend same one 67 mustang GTA 390

    • @mikeg3335
      @mikeg3335 5 місяців тому +1

      Mercury cougar 68 gte

  • @rayun6860
    @rayun6860 3 роки тому +39

    Whoa the buick outhandled the amx! That was insane. I love the GS 455 even more now lol

    • @GarlicKnot5
      @GarlicKnot5 2 місяці тому

      Gotta hand it to Buick they really got it right with the 70 GS. I still dream about an Apollo white GSX S1.

  • @toddbob55
    @toddbob55 3 роки тому +62

    Boss Mustang is just straight up bad ass looking wish i owned one

    • @couthlazer
      @couthlazer 2 роки тому

      Same for the challenger

    • @GarlicKnot5
      @GarlicKnot5 2 місяці тому

      Sexiest mustang there is. 67 GT500 is a close second for me.

  • @robertbrown374
    @robertbrown374 Рік тому +2

    Im 2ed owner of my 1971 GS. Owned it 46 years out lived my marrage by 11 years. I cant stop loving that car....
    You do not know life untill you live in these old cars.

  • @COBHC8890
    @COBHC8890 3 роки тому +9

    I pretty much love all muscle cars! Make, model etc! However....a 1970 Buick GSX Stage 2 has my 🖤🖤🖤🖤!!!!!

    • @josephnewcomb5670
      @josephnewcomb5670 3 роки тому +3

      Wish we could have seen a test on a Buick GS455 Stage 2

  • @RoyalTiger13
    @RoyalTiger13 3 роки тому +9

    1969 Hurst/Olds was always my favorite!!!!!

  • @charlesdalton985
    @charlesdalton985 3 роки тому +13

    Thank you! This was a double trip down memory lane (watching these beasts run and remembering Dream Car Garage). The results are the results. Sure, a different day, a different example of the same car, different results. And I’m going to say it - we all miss Tom. Thanks for sharing and keeping the flame alive.

  • @NeuKrofta
    @NeuKrofta 3 роки тому +17

    I wonder how the AMC Javelin with the 401 would have done. Otherwise pretty impressive to see that 390 chirping tires through all the gears. AMC deserves more love.

    • @rogerlairamore207
      @rogerlairamore207 Рік тому +3

      The AMC Javelin did win the Trans Am race in 1970 driven by Mark Donahue 2nd place was a Plymouth Cuda driven by Swede Savage 3rd place was a Dodge Challenger driven by Sam Posey 4th place was a Camaro driven by Jim Hall 5th place was a Mustang driven by Parnelli Jones 6th place was a Camaro driven by Milt Minter

    • @f4udhorn
      @f4udhorn Рік тому +1

      I agree. I owned one!

  • @whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306
    @whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 3 роки тому +5

    It's no fun getting older but I feel very fortunate I grew up at a time where cars like these were all over the place. Heck my dad raised me in a 68 GTO daily driver and our only family car. Gave it to me as my first car and I have been a muscle car nut as long as I remember. I would take and enjoy any one of them in a heartbeat.

  • @MikeBrown-ii3pt
    @MikeBrown-ii3pt 3 роки тому +5

    The only real answer to this question is...the one that YOU drive and enjoy. I don't care what brand or model it is, as long as the owner enjoys the car, that's what's most important.
    I love my 1970 L34 Chevelle. My best friend loves his 1968 Dodge Charger with a 383. Both are 4 speed cars and we have a lot of fun playing around with them.
    Just F.Y.I., the "burnout contest" doesn't impress me.

    • @goldenltd1970
      @goldenltd1970 2 роки тому +1

      I think that real car people can appreciate other brands and the rest compares them. I'm a Ford guy, but what's not to love about Fuselage Mopars, Chevelles or a Rebel Machine!?! Or maybe it's an internet thing

  • @sacooper802
    @sacooper802 3 роки тому +5

    yeah baby ford all the way

  • @blakethebadger1
    @blakethebadger1 3 роки тому +6

    Me and my father have a 1969 mustang coupe (not the fastback) and have been restoring it for years. One day it will be mine but I hope that day never Comes. It's a beautiful car and getting better looking every year.

  • @phillipari296
    @phillipari296 3 роки тому +7

    Awesome video. I watched this program every Saturday morning years ago. All the cars are beautiful but the Chevelle is my favorite. I loved Tom and miss him. God bless you.

  • @GorillaCookies
    @GorillaCookies 3 роки тому +13

    Whats really interesting to me is that the Boss 429 was significantly detuned for the street in production cars. Some sources claim over 135 hp and 75 ft lbs worth of detuning for the street. I wonder what it would be capable in a mustang if not detuned . I imagine it would of suffered some significant drivability issues on the street but I bet it would have been a mean SOB on the highway .

    • @goldenltd1970
      @goldenltd1970 2 роки тому +2

      It was at least 200 horses. Street Boss was about 420 ponys and the race boss had about 620 per Robert Yates. It had different heads(no hemi combustion chambers like the race engine), different cam, small carb and an exhaust that choked down the output too

    • @Frankie--da-fixer
      @Frankie--da-fixer Рік тому

      Yea but that is not what they are referring to,it's cars you could walk up and buy everyday,most of these cars could be ordered with a performance package!

    • @f4udhorn
      @f4udhorn Рік тому +1

      Being a Ford guy, the Boss' were extremely nose heavy and the Boss 302 was a much more pleasant car to drive.

  • @y.allopez1436
    @y.allopez1436 3 роки тому +4

    YEA FORD BABY!!!! FTW and is without a doubt the Best looking one out of all of them. Awesome comparison guys loved it!

  • @JackF99
    @JackF99 3 роки тому +2

    Serious props to the producers of the show for using actual unmodified muscle cars. Impossible to find those outside of museums and even very slight modern improvements can affect performance a lot and distort the results. My favorite of the era is Ford because at the time Ford was all over the world representing the U.S. in road, endurance, and rally racing. Even had their name on the dominant Formula 1 engine of the time. Stateside they did great in NASCAR and drags too but it seems like the complaint about Ford is their best production high performance cars were never built in the mass quantities Chevy and Mopar put out. For example I think there were about 4X as many LS6 Chevelles built than Boss 429's.

    • @f4udhorn
      @f4udhorn Рік тому

      Ford guy here. You're so right. I've had a lot of the really rare Fords: Talladega, etc.

  • @jonathanmckay5820
    @jonathanmckay5820 3 роки тому +6

    Boss 429 but they all sweet

  • @my1vice
    @my1vice 3 роки тому +6

    The best one is the one that is in your driveway.

  • @jesseduke694
    @jesseduke694 3 роки тому +9

    This was very fun to watch! I loved it! I believe yrs ago I actually read this very article in a magazine. But to get to watch it & listen to you guys comment & horse around was the best! And I am very shocked! I am a ford guy. I love all muscle cars & trucks but my blood is blue. My experience with alot of performance engines has come In the form of 4x4 trucks though. Mud trucks! So I have alot of hands on with 429/460 engines & FE 390/410 engines & I can say first hand both those engine designs are truly legendary & capable of being at the top of any competition. But these, super hero engines like the boss 429 I know about from basicly bench racers & like you guys mentioned magazine articles. As a 14yr old kid that dousnt really know why a engine is great but just believes he dous becouse of the legendary statis. Over the yrs the more "inside" info I got on the boss 429 I started to get my dreams squashed by all negative gossip. And I have kinda believed it. I have been told the boss 429 was great at doing what it's soul purpose was, Nascar! It's was a screemer out on the roundy round. But in street trim it fell flat on its face. Choked out with small carbs & undersized cam & heavy internals they have made me believe the 429 boss mustang was a collectable. But to go fast it was more of a Zero than a Hero. Now at 44yrs old & much more educated on the inside of a engine I have realized alot of the garbage that was fed to me was from guys that have never even stood beside one or listen to one run let alone drive or work on one. The garbage was fed to them & if there daddy's said chevys were the best then if someone served them a plate of bullshit that said fords are slow on top they slop it up with a big shit eatin grin! Im happy to see the ford do so well in amongst such legendary statis. I am interested to see how a 428 scj could have faired in this group.

  • @anthemss
    @anthemss 3 роки тому +27

    Thanks for rerunning this Peter, I remember watching this when it first aired -GREAT!
    Miss Tom 😢

    • @gmain1977
      @gmain1977 3 роки тому +2

      Yes I watched it when it aired, I am Mopar at heart but love all muscle cars , the Boss 429 performed well, all Boss Mustangs where all 4 speed , proper drivers car

  • @instantzacc5918
    @instantzacc5918 3 роки тому +6

    I'm jalousie of the man who got to test them all

  • @paulcorreggio4925
    @paulcorreggio4925 3 роки тому +4

    1970 Buick GSX Stage 1, HANDS DOWN!!

  • @rickarra9396
    @rickarra9396 3 роки тому +8

    This was a fun video and shootout. Even though I'm a AMC lover, the LS6 has always been my favorite. The BOSS429/302 are right up there as well

  • @jaya.0069
    @jaya.0069 2 роки тому +6

    Well done Pete! As the owner of a 69 Mach 1 years ago I knew the Mustang would win the shootout.

  • @marinegunny826
    @marinegunny826 3 роки тому +6

    Had a 69 AMX 500 Special. When drag racing, I had to start off in second gear because out of first, the tires would just spin. Surprised this guy didn't do the burnout in first.

    • @carmineredd1198
      @carmineredd1198 3 роки тому +1

      you mean california 500 special

    • @marinegunny826
      @marinegunny826 3 роки тому +3

      @@carmineredd1198 yep! Big Bad Green, 390 4speed manual with factory Hurst quick shift. Very fun car

    • @carmineredd1198
      @carmineredd1198 3 роки тому +1

      @@marinegunny826 i remember a '71 javelin sst like that i think it was a go green 401, 1/4 mile car

    • @marinegunny826
      @marinegunny826 3 роки тому +1

      @@carmineredd1198Ahh! Very cool! To look at those engines, they looked like a small block. When I rebuilt the 390, I found out why. Very large bore. Over 4". Very short stroke. After inserting the Pistons and rods, turned the crank a couple times and noticed the skirt of the piston came within an 1/8 of an inch from the counter balance of the crank! No lag in rpms off the line

  • @rickarra9396
    @rickarra9396 3 роки тому +11

    So great to see Tom

  • @barryuttley1164
    @barryuttley1164 3 роки тому +14

    Great Show keep them coming
    RIP Tom

  • @jeremybelcher1727
    @jeremybelcher1727 3 роки тому +4

    I remember watching this on Speed when I was a kid and loved it! Pity that the Challenger’s clutch had issues, but otherwise it was a great showing of how well those cars would run. Thanks for uploading!

  • @sidefx996
    @sidefx996 3 роки тому +9

    Keep it coming guys, thanks so much. Loved seeing this awesome show again, hope you repost all the old good stuff. God Bless you guys and we miss Tom :(

  • @kennyrichard2971
    @kennyrichard2971 3 роки тому +10

    They are all awesome cars but I like the Pontiac judge GTO

  • @Aeroman66
    @Aeroman66 3 роки тому +5

    It may not be the best, but that AMX... 😍

  • @ragman0696
    @ragman0696 3 роки тому +3

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  • @danmyers9372
    @danmyers9372 3 роки тому +7

    When I saw this come up I thought this was a new video. This is ANCIENT.

    • @sidefx996
      @sidefx996 3 роки тому +1

      What's your point? And what's the problem? Did you seriously have to take the time to bitch? The rest of us really enjoyed Dream Car Garage and APPRECIATE that Peter and his son are continuing to post brand new stuff and repost some of the original stuff the rest of us love seeing again.

  • @gearhead682010
    @gearhead682010 3 роки тому +5

    A 1966 Shelby Gt 350 H for me personally, to me it’s all about the body lines and stance of this particular car. But a close second would be a 1970 Boss Mustang, take your pick of the 302 or 429 powered cars

  • @alex35agm
    @alex35agm 3 роки тому +3

    As far as looks go the 1969 Mustang Mach 1 is the best.It may not be the best performance car but it's my favorite.Just a beautiful car.

  • @louisszabo9061
    @louisszabo9061 3 роки тому +2

    Love the Mustang. Always thought the others were for late 20’s early 30’s guys. 1969 Mustang Boss!

  • @quincee3376
    @quincee3376 3 роки тому +2

    My 5 favourites of all time ( too hard to pick 1) : 73 Firebird Trans Am 2. 69 or 70 Mustang Boss 3. 71 Plymouth Cuda 4. 70 GTO Judge 5. 70 Chevelle SS.

  • @windronner1
    @windronner1 3 роки тому +7

    I almost expected as much from the mustang. Too bad they didn’t have a boss 02 to see how interesting the two mustangs would be.
    My big disappointment was the a MX. Short light and nimble. I expected much better
    My big surprise was the other heavyweights the Buick the GTO etc. Thanks. Great video.

    • @f4udhorn
      @f4udhorn Рік тому

      So did I, since I owned one.

  • @lucv13
    @lucv13 3 роки тому +2

    I consider myself a MOPAR guy and am a little disappointed BUT FOMOCO Mustangs were my first love - Great show guys that was awesome!!!

  • @deanstevenson6527
    @deanstevenson6527 3 роки тому +3

    Incinerator of tire prize...429 Boss. No suprises!

  • @ronmerkle3696
    @ronmerkle3696 3 роки тому +3

    Fun video, a little unfair comparison but I enjoyed it. I own a 69 GTO and 2 68 firebirds. Like them all.

  • @1951RKP
    @1951RKP 10 місяців тому

    I cut my teeth drag racing during the era of these cars. They were so much fun to drive. I have driven most every model you guys tested. When drag racing them back in those days it could really get tricky getting them off the starting line. I actually learn how to launch with one of the hardest to control traction. A 1968 Shelby GT 500 Convertible with a 3.00 rear end. The car really ran good all considering but it was so hard to control wheel speed with that high of a gear ratio. I did drive a lot with 3.90 and lower rear ends and much easier but still tricky. We did a huge amount of street racing and most of our cars we had in the 4.30 to 4.57 range gears. I had a Boss 302 with a 5.47 rear end and drove it everyday but rarely on the highway. We were all about 1/4 mile and could care less how the gears hurt fuel economy on the highway. New era performance cars are way more powerful with superchargers and advanced technology but there will never be a more fun era than the mid 60’s to 1971. Hanging out at the drive inn restaurants cruising Main Street all night and the best music ever.

  • @dennisdollar3953
    @dennisdollar3953 3 роки тому +10

    I personally love the buick gs it was a great all around car

    • @robertmetzger1753
      @robertmetzger1753 3 роки тому +1

      455 was a Torque Monster and the GS HAD A GREAT BOD !! LOLOL AND I'M BASSICALLY A CHEVY MAN !! LOLOLOLHAHA

    • @josephnewcomb5670
      @josephnewcomb5670 3 роки тому +2

      Buick GS455 will run faster threw a 1/4 mile then tested here

  • @rdh5961
    @rdh5961 3 роки тому +10

    The Hemi had the handicap of a bad clutch, it's sad it never had a chance. I'm also surprised at the performance the Boss displayed, which was great and different than period reports. I'm curious if it was truly stock.

    • @SSGTA440
      @SSGTA440 3 роки тому +3

      The 440 six pack was much stronger as a street engine, than the hemi.....90% of the time, the owner could not set up the dual carbs, and the low speed torque from the hemi was just not there.

    • @luketruitt8150
      @luketruitt8150 3 роки тому +1

      I was so disappointed watching it cause the 70 Challenger is my dream car, wish they would’ve replaced the clutch to give it a fair shot

  • @christianm7220
    @christianm7220 3 роки тому +17

    I find it interesting that the only PONY car in the test wins. Wonder why a Camaro wasn't used also?

    • @MikeBrown-ii3pt
      @MikeBrown-ii3pt 3 роки тому +4

      The Challenger is also a pony car.
      What I find interesting is that they didn't throw a new clutch in it before this test. Hopefully they did before selling it.
      I used to be a GM guy all the way but, as I've gotten older, I like all of them.

    • @courtofpublicopinion8189
      @courtofpublicopinion8189 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah skewed test. No Camaro? Come no ..

    • @frenchonion4595
      @frenchonion4595 3 роки тому +1

      Very odd the camaro is not in the test

    • @timothythomas1737
      @timothythomas1737 3 роки тому

      No nova

  • @426hemi440
    @426hemi440 2 роки тому +1

    I would like to see just one episode of boss 429 69 and 70 with all its differences and these aggressive test drives. I love

  • @petezzzz
    @petezzzz 3 роки тому +6

    Boss 429 FTW!

  • @marksullivan8200
    @marksullivan8200 8 місяців тому +1

    If the Chevelle didn't have a highway gear in the rear & had say a 3.90 gear it'd be safe to say things may have gone differently also if all the cars had same gear ratio results would be different we all have our favorites & all of these legendary cars deserve respect it was a great video thanks

  • @FrankySilverFace
    @FrankySilverFace 3 роки тому +1

    This was a great video at the time, still is today and always will be a great watch imo. It's so great to read the negative comments of all the entitled drama queens in this comment section who have never put together a 7 car shoot out video of their own.

  • @jamesseaman6919
    @jamesseaman6919 3 роки тому +4

    You should have had a torque-flite behind the hemi in the Challanger! It would have got a lot better ET!
    The Challenger was running under a handicap! It didn’t leave the factory with a bad clutch!

  • @CoondawgPD
    @CoondawgPD 3 роки тому +5

    When I was a teenager looking for cars, mustangs to be exact, I would peruse car traders and they were filled with GTO Judges by the tons for $3000 and less.

  • @SuperBoss351
    @SuperBoss351 3 роки тому +3

    Miss tom alot..you guys had such chemisty..I have all those minus the amx, run in true street. Bucks eat lunch. My 70 ragtop auto with bias ply tires, all orig cars. I run 1311 108 with stock tires, 12.50 dragradials only. My boss 429 goes 12.98 on drag radials. But thts years of playin on street. I've had buick since 79, rest mid 80s. No one has touched them. Chevelle with 410 gear and auto runs 1319 at 114 mph . Chevy always more mph. I have many built bucks, one gsx. 500 hp but real num is 356 to rear wheels, it runs 1190 at 110. So no mph but quick. 1.72 60 ft time on drag radials. Tht car been run 300 times easy last 30 yrs. With ac.. so not slugs like some say. Yes my new suv and trx are quick. Muscle cars are cars you have to actually drive. Great job guys.

  • @agustf7527
    @agustf7527 3 роки тому +29

    “ALL RISE FOR THE JUDGE!”

    • @manher4335
      @manher4335 3 роки тому +1

      The HUMBLER has arrived!

    • @scottbrooklyn2995
      @scottbrooklyn2995 3 роки тому +1

      No it "here come da judge here come da judge". It was a bit on Laughin

    • @manher4335
      @manher4335 3 роки тому +1

      @@scottbrooklyn2995 Oh I know the show my friend. I made a reference to the 70' commercial, which is my favorite. When the car finally got the cool (VOE) system

    • @scottbrooklyn2995
      @scottbrooklyn2995 3 роки тому +1

      @@manher4335 I stand corrected. Thanks man

    • @reidthompson8979
      @reidthompson8979 3 роки тому +1

      GS Stage 1 better, and more of a sleeper

  • @jenniferbeyer6412
    @jenniferbeyer6412 3 роки тому +1

    I love the Olds engines. But in a Buick. I had a 1978 Buick Riviera with an Olds 403. It was a spectacular car. Luxury with some performance. And a extreme long life. It had close to 1 million miles or perhaps over the 1 million miles. The odometer quit around 500 thousand miles.
    I wish I still had that car. Even with all the problems with the body work. If I could find one with low miles and set up like my Riv. I would buy it.
    Thank you for the show it was awesome. Glad the Buick made a great showing.

  • @rcfred_689
    @rcfred_689 3 роки тому +8

    Love this , I remember watching this when it was done originally. Wasn't there supposed to be a second installment with tuner cars (Yenko's etc).

    • @kos2318
      @kos2318 3 роки тому +1

      There was one and I remember watching it on dream car garage I wish they would show that one too

  • @kenvigeant1877
    @kenvigeant1877 3 роки тому +6

    Pete can drive !! Great job !! All very nice classic cars.

  • @rodneybrentgray7251
    @rodneybrentgray7251 3 роки тому +5

    They are all cool rides
    But the 69-70 Boss is the baddest looking of the bunch

  • @c-moneycantrell7681
    @c-moneycantrell7681 3 роки тому +3

    Peter is Just awesome ! That guy is living my dream for sure. Thank you for the amazing opportunity to actually see these rare cars be pushed as they would back in the day the only time you’ll ever see a real world competition and a FORD WON !!!!!! Yes!!!

  • @8LLRoadranger
    @8LLRoadranger 2 роки тому +8

    I’m a fan of all these cars; although, I favor the BOSS 429. Despite my bias, I don’t think this test is fair due to the Challenger being hindered due to a worn clutch.
    If the cars are to be “tested as they came from the factory”, shouldn’t the clutch been replaced before the shootout? Maybe they just didn’t have the time to replace the clutch. Great show, and an impressive lineup!

    • @rogerlairamore207
      @rogerlairamore207 Рік тому +1

      I agree that Hemi Challenger would have been the fastest in the quarter or at least top 2 just as if the 454 Chevelle if the automatic transmission was slipping it would’ve handicapped it as well

  • @Y3nk0
    @Y3nk0 3 роки тому +8

    Next up from LMC we need the "Super" Muscle Car Shoutout!

    • @gmain1977
      @gmain1977 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly, in 2006 there was a 3 minute video , but never seen the full footage been looking for it for 15 years

    • @legendarymotorcar
      @legendarymotorcar  3 роки тому +3

      Stay tuned, Super Muscle Car Shootout is next up!

    • @legendarymotorcar
      @legendarymotorcar  3 роки тому +3

      @@gmain1977 Looks like this coming Sunday's your lucky day. Stay tuned

    • @gmain1977
      @gmain1977 3 роки тому +1

      @@legendarymotorcar wow that's amazing, you I have searched for it and cannot find anywhere on youtube , that would be amazing , I am from UK and been into muscle cars since I was 5 , I watched Dream car garage and LMC back in early 00s in UK on cable channel. Many people will be excited about this

  • @kurtwise7356
    @kurtwise7356 Рік тому +1

    Born and raised in a GM town! On a good night at local drag strip my 70 Chevelle SS 454 LS6 would beat most of them!

  • @Yes-qj4bi
    @Yes-qj4bi 3 роки тому +3

    1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans am 455 super duty

  • @williamwells8341
    @williamwells8341 2 роки тому +2

    1970 Ford Cobra with 429 scj, 4 sp/with drag pack.

  • @kenwelch198
    @kenwelch198 Рік тому

    When I turned 16 all these cars were very affordable as they were getting to be around 6-8 years old. My first car was a 70 Chevelle SS and my second was a 69 Torino GT.

  • @mikeskipworth856
    @mikeskipworth856 3 роки тому +6

    This is a classic. Thanks for sharing.

  • @plymouthdie-castreplicas
    @plymouthdie-castreplicas 3 роки тому +5

    Awesome episode! Long live the classic muscle cars!

  • @maxpowerta3183
    @maxpowerta3183 3 роки тому +7

    This was a great concept and made for an interesting shootout, But what would have made it truly awesome would be if it were an actual apples to apples comparison of the best offerings from each manufacturer. You really cant compare a 1969 ram air 3 Judge to a 1970 GS 455 or a 455 powered hurst Olds and call it a fair comparison. To make it a truly fair and epic shootout you would have to select all models from the same year, Say 1970 and choose cars with the top engine offerings that year. The GTO would get the RAIV, the Buick the stage 1 455, The chevelle the LS6 454, etc. and all the cars should have been similarly geared and with the same types of transmission, be it manual or auto. Then you could truly crown the "ultimate muscle car" I understand this was a long time ago and perhaps those cars were not available to them, I'm just saying someone should revisit this......

    • @f4udhorn
      @f4udhorn Рік тому

      And you would've gotten the killer of them all: A 429CJ 701/2 FALCON.

    • @nealivers7479
      @nealivers7479 Рік тому

      I was thinking the same...
      The RAIII is *not* the equal of the LS6, HEMI, etc.
      The RAIV with a 4spd and maybe 3.90 rear WOULD be the actual apples to apples comparison.
      Other than that...I live seeing these cars run, as I am the owner of a 1970 GTO Convertible, with a but of work done :)

  • @JrGoonior
    @JrGoonior 3 роки тому +4

    I saw this a long time ago. The HEMI Challenger, I believe was the wrong choice for this. It should have been a 440 4bbl or Six Pack.

  • @SoaringEagle1
    @SoaringEagle1 3 роки тому +3

    You need an A12 Super Bee or Road Runner in this mix.

  • @BobJohnson-mq2dr
    @BobJohnson-mq2dr 3 роки тому +3

    Boss 429 o ya

  • @freeskier175
    @freeskier175 3 роки тому +2

    68 dart lo23...end of discussion.

  • @markdodd1152
    @markdodd1152 3 роки тому +1

    It's hard not to like any one of these cars. As a kid they were all dream cars. The Buick Grand Sport is definitely my favorite though.

  • @genefortney9133
    @genefortney9133 3 роки тому +4

    An excellent project and a great video as well as the correct era! Unfortunately, GM had 4 divisions covered you missed a couple more to complete the test. Plymouth’s Road Runner with the 6 pack for sure and how about Mercury? Anyways for those that you covered highly entertaining! Too bad about the bad clutch in the Challenger.

  • @nicetna2010
    @nicetna2010 Рік тому

    Love all the cars. Just one thought, however: this collection of vintage musclecars deserved a pro driver. I don't want to hear any "ifs", " ands" or "buts" - I just want unfiltered results with no excuses.

  • @The_R-n-I_Guy
    @The_R-n-I_Guy 4 місяці тому

    My first choice would be a tough decision between the Buick and the AMX. But a worn out, rusty base model of any of them would be great to have. AMC, Buick, Oldsmobile, Chevy, Dodge, and even Ford all are great looking cars and to be able to own one would be great

  • @MrBlackbutang
    @MrBlackbutang 2 роки тому +2

    GSX stage 1 . Apollo White

  • @JC-gw3yo
    @JC-gw3yo 3 роки тому +2

    Hey geniuses, Drum brakes adjust when brakes are applied when backing up

  • @Firebird400
    @Firebird400 Рік тому +1

    All beautiful cars! Be a treat to own any of them

  • @clintonwatkins3718
    @clintonwatkins3718 2 роки тому +1

    Such amazing cars! you can't go wrong with any of these. Except the massive price.

  • @richardthomas9198
    @richardthomas9198 Рік тому

    When I was 10 or 11 I got a ride in a plum crazy 426 hemi cuda with white buckets and slapstick shifter. OMG when he stomped it the whole thing shook and the intake and exhaust sounded great. Been hooked ever since

  • @steventangney1367
    @steventangney1367 3 роки тому +1

    BEST VIDEO ON UA-cam.

  • @drtb69
    @drtb69 3 роки тому +2

    I will take any of these fine American vehicles ! I do love the plum crazy purple challenger.... I guess the mustang handling , looks , and all around driveabity and with some exhaust help, a different carb than the factory stuff...along with a different rear differetial it'd be closer in quickness and trap times 1/4 mile too

  • @65msp
    @65msp 3 роки тому +1

    Memory lane, I remember watching this quite a while back.

  • @johnbryan5608
    @johnbryan5608 3 роки тому +4

    Encyclopedic knowledge!
    I can’t remember Amsterdam.

  • @stephenpage-murray7226
    @stephenpage-murray7226 3 роки тому +3

    Boss 429.

  • @aaronellison4775
    @aaronellison4775 3 роки тому +1

    If it weren't for the Mustang, none of these other cars would even exist.

    • @jayweiss4378
      @jayweiss4378 3 роки тому

      And the Mustang wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the Falcon

  • @rocketmann8333
    @rocketmann8333 8 місяців тому

    All as it should be. Anyone around the street racing days wouldnt have a problem with the results of STOCK cars... My 71' Boss Mach 1 was a beast!

  • @davidkemp3154
    @davidkemp3154 Рік тому

    1972 Firebird Esprit, got 1 new when I turned 16, gladly turned down a new Mach 1 at the time from my stepdad who then got me a new 240z since the 1st two didn't kill me. Those were the days.

  • @rodneyjones8433
    @rodneyjones8433 Рік тому

    I laugh when they talk about Buick being your Grandpa's car. Well I'm a Grandpa with a Buick. I drive a 1987 Modified Buick Grand National. I guess if my grandson gets into a battle, he could say, "I'll beat you in my Grandpa's old car" LOL

  • @bdogjr7779
    @bdogjr7779 3 роки тому +15

    A 440 six pack Cuda with 727 automatic is a better street car than a 426 Hemi Challenger 4 speed with a slipping clutch◇¿.😎🎱☮🔊🖖👍

    • @projectf025
      @projectf025 3 роки тому

      Street race yes drag race no

    • @jtc1964x
      @jtc1964x 3 роки тому +3

      This was totally biased against Mopar

    • @timmebruer5205
      @timmebruer5205 2 роки тому

      Right, totally biased lol

  • @tomquinn607
    @tomquinn607 3 роки тому +1

    The Boss 429. Until The spark plugs need to be replaced.

  • @bolt4694
    @bolt4694 3 роки тому +2

    Best bare bones stock muscle car. 1968 Roadrunner.

  • @davidconkling3655
    @davidconkling3655 3 роки тому +1

    1970. GS 455 stage. 1. Is the ultimate. Sleeper car... Had 2 of them in late 1970's.... On unlimted highway. Will blow the doors off most of the other cars...Really!!!. Incredible car out of 1970.. 510. Torque.. Could leave posi. For a. 1/4. Mile.Brothers........ Toughest. Race was with 1973 Formula. Pontiac 455 SD. Is super rare car.. $$$$$$.. .... Loved those Cars..

  • @rodneyjones8433
    @rodneyjones8433 Рік тому

    The crazy part of this video is that I've owned over half the muscle cars in this video and more, bought them for a few hundred and or sold them for about the same. I just wish I'd knew back then what kind of money those cars would worth today. I remember selling my 66 Chevelle SS 409 4 speed for $350, 69 GTO $300, think I got like $225 maybe $250 for my 69 Camaro, and I'm not going to talk about my last 7 Mustangs, one a Boss 351

  • @grapefruitsimmons
    @grapefruitsimmons 3 роки тому +2

    Cutlass 442 is all I dream of