@@Oktiduz Magnus was great as a war commander, but he kept humble which is why he supported Rodimus since he know he was able to make things happen. Which he actually did compared to Optimus.
@@yaboiirich8385 yeah, aligned continuity magnus would be appalled by animated magnus’ leadership to. By the way, prime magnus was voiced by Michelle Ironside, who voiced darkseid in Superman the animated series and justice league the animated series.
If Sentinel Prime wasn't enough of a scumbag, just remember that time he completely rejected Blackarachnia's (Elita's) existence to her face instead of being overjoyed at the thought of his friend actually being alive. He chose his disgust for organics over his love for a friend that he claimed to care so much about.
@@OktiduzTorn apart by Archnid’s army of insecticons named Hardshell, Bombshell, Kickback, Shrapnel, Shopshot, Skrapnel, Inferno, Waspinator, Venom, Chopshop, Barrage, Ransack, Tarantulas, and Scorponok.
It's funny how the show that looks the most cartoonish is in fact among the darkest of Transformers series through its unconventional depiction of the Autobots.
@@christopherallen8822 I agree. I loved Teen Titans, Powerpuff Girls, etc, so to see these shows massacred is as if my heart was ripped straight from my chest and subjected to the most horrendous torture imaginable...
Animated without looking deep into it seems fine, maybe even a bit scary, but not bad, however when you start thinking into it closer and realize how horrifying it is, you figure out that it’s bad and scary, I wouldn’t be surprised if many autobots committed su*c*de over this, sure it doesn’t live up to IDW 100%, its horrifying and if I was an Autobot- I’d get a human or alien avatar and get the fuck out of there
As it goes in war, there is no good side, just less evil ones. Sure, the Cons are evil but I'll just point to the fact that Jetstorm and Jetfire were created from them studying Decepticons which implies they experimented on Decepticon prisoners during the war to learn how to duplicate their ability to fly and take jet alternate modes.
Or you could have mentioned that Jetfire and jetstorm actually used to be normal middle class bots until an accident happened and causing them both to be severely injured and while they were unconscious the autobot higher ups decided to use them and turn them into flyers to be used to fight against decepticons From the comics
Despots lol. This isn't IDW Optimus Prime. The bot who literally annexed Earth and dragged it into a galactic council against the wishes of Earth leadership.
The show always gave me the impression that the decepticons and auto bots were almost different races. For example decepticons are usually taller and larger, and can usually fly.
From what I seem to understand is similarly to G1 the Cons are built for military work which is why they can fly and have larger builds and weapons. Even their names are likely due to their design purposes such as Blackout's E.M.P or Starscream's plasma scream. They likely rebelled due to their lack of rights while others like D16 A.K.A Megatron were apart of it due to being poorly treated.
While the Autobots do often come off as the more noble faction, people tend to forget that this franchise revolves around a literal war. Both sides have blood on their hands. The Autobots ruling Cybertron with such a stern and rigid leadership in Animated never did sit right with me. Excellent video.
This is why that famous scene in the IDW comics of Megatron facing a literally field of sparks that died under his command was flawed.. The Necrobot claimed each flower was placed at those who killed, or those who COMMANDED THOSE WHO KILLED. Meaning Optimus's field shoild be at least as large as Megatrons. (And then there's the absurdity that Megatron only just discoverer Bots die in war by the thousands. This is a basic fact of war that you'd think he'd have come to terms with long ago.)
I like these types of videos on Transformers Animated. I know Decepticons are evil, but damn, the life of Autobots are really messed up. I feel bad for the ones that never wanted to be in the war. You are literally treated as nothing and have no name unless you join the Autobots. You can’t even be factionless; you’ll treated like a Decepticon. If you so much as try to criticize Ultra Magnus, Sentinel Prime or the Elite Guard justice system, you’re possibly seen as a traitor to some. I love Animated, but some parts of it like Cybertron are depressing. Just like war 😔
@@cideofsoos I VERY STRONGLY considered including that in the video though I have to remember that non-despotic countries with mandatory service with severe consequences for draft dodging do exist!
I think of it like the clones from clone wars there names are a series of numbers and letters but they get nicknames that eventually become their real names.
With Autobots like Sentinel and Ultra Magnus doing scumming things and act like they were doing the right thing, it makes Megatron and The Decepticons looks more heroic than they are and I know the Decepticons are not heroes, but At least they will were honest about their cause even they are dangerous, you couldn’t blame them for trying to take down the Autobot system.
Autobot high command is sickening with the heroic front they put on. Look, Megs might be evil, Blitzwing may be nuts, Shockwave is of course a traitor, and Starscream is unapologetically power-hungry, but at least they don't try to act all virtuous and morally pompous. They know what they want, and they will do anything to get what they want.
@@Oktiduz Yeah. They suck. Y'know how Jetfire and Jetstorm came to be? They were two brothers who worked as repair bots and were near fatally injured due to an on-site accident. Seeing the two as completely expendable, the Elite Guard experimented on them. Grafting Decepticon code and CNA they took from Starscream onto them, hoping to duplicate the Seeker's flight and combat abilities.
@@christopherallen8822 Did... not know that. Jeez, how are they so fucking cheery all the time? Is it to mask their pain, or did the Autobots override their central processors?
@@Oktiduz No idea, man. No idea. All I know is that the tests on Starscream were what provided him his opportunity to escape from the Steelhaven, the Elite Guard ship, and that this was Magnus' idea. With the Decepticons in the camps and settlements on the outer rim of the Galaxy getting restless, he felt it necessary to send a message to the Cons that they mean business. That they're not screwing around. So he came up with Project Safeguard. The infusion of Decepticon flight and combat capabilities into an Autobot. Naturally, they didn't want to risk any of their soldiers, so they went looking for suitable "volunteers" from the Energon Farms and refineries. They found two refinery workers, twins, who'd been injured on the job due to an explosion. The process took nearly a deca-cycle and entailed the fusion of Starscream's code, a complete circuitry overhaul, some fluid transfusions, and tempering and reconstruction of their armored plating. Apparently, Project Safeguard stressed the Elite Guard's scientific resources to their limits.
I love this show so much I enjoy seeing Sentinel 's head on the ground while Optimus laughs at his dumb face 😂. This one of those shows that doesn't get old I kinda want to re watch it again now.
There was a fanfiction I love where the G1 Autobots meet there Animated counterparts and G1 Optimus Prime flat out decks Sentinel Prime for his attitude with humans and calls him a disgrace and an insult to everything the Autobot symbol stands for. I know animated has a lot of fans, but I love G1 for how clear good and evil are and the nobility of the Autobots and humans. Not to say they didn't have complex moral stories, but they showed there is clear good and clear evil and demonstrated virtue even when making tough choices.
I don’t know why, but I wanna create a fan stop motion series of where Optimus at the end fights for the all Spark gets his ass royally beaten by megatron with prime being barley functional in power master form all spark keeps him alive, but in a stasis form and the scientist of cybertron and ratchet merged the power, master armor with prime to make him look a little bit more like his G1 and the all spark transfers, knowledge into the little matrix case and gives it to Optimus
Oh by the way, in the comic, Transformers Animated: The rise of safe guard, (A comic that was sold exclusivley with the Transformers Animated Safeguard figure set) it's established that, The Elite Guard considers non-members to be expendable and takes no issue with with performing dangerous experiments on ordinary robots and from the looks of it, they didn't even volentueer willingly! Wait, there's more, in that comic sentinel says he used live ammo for a test to see if Jetstorm and Jetfire were naturally adept at flying or not, which if they hadn't they would've died, and Ultra Magnus says Sentinel "showed great initiative" Wait, there's more, They also put Jetstorm and Jetfire into an untested glitchy simulator which almost killed them! WTF?!!
@@Oktiduz At this rate, it’s official cannon that ultra magnus was seriously projecting when he told Optimus “being a hero is not in his programming.” Well, who’s not programmed to be a hero now ultra?!
The problem is...Transformers doesn't get a season 4...ever. If it does, it's always a watered down TV special like the Rebirth or movie specials like Cyberverse. Never a proper 4th season. 4 to Hasbro is like 3 for Valve. --Hasbro ran by Guido Mista confirmed--
Hasbro wants to ensure that every new generation gets to experience a new Transformers show from its start - of course, the problem with the approach is that no one continuity can ever get the length and depth it deserves!
@@Oktiduz If only Hasbro ever learned from their mistakes and give the shows time to finish cooking, then there might be a lot more to be made from them and less errors that's been going on with their shows since S3 of G1.
oh yeah no i fully know that they are the ones who are the violent type and they are chaotic and evil and whatnot. doesnt stop me from fully supporting them :DDDDD
Maybe season 4 was not made with the same reason as not continuing Anarky's story in the Batman comics in the 90's. So much secrets revealed within 3 seasons. Only got names replaced with certain Autobots. Maybe oligarchs and politicians petitioned to un-air Animated s4 regarding that possibility. And it's not even a longshot that it's not even an assumption!
one thing i love about TFA is how it aproaches military. america has a big issue with glorifiyng the military and war, which is very prominent in the bayverse. in animated they approach it differentally, i especially like how they did Ratchet's story here
The flashbacks were especially poignant! Loved how the show fleshed out Ratchet’s role as a father figure to Omega Supreme when he was expected to be nothing more but a drill sergeant to the “built for combat” bot!
@@Oktiduz exactly! I love that they showed his past as a solider and his change in attitude towards the war and the government. Especially near the end of season 3
with this vudeo and "learning to love the michael bay transformers" video. I'm starting to think there's no good thing that can come out of an autobot led government.
You gotta remember that in a lot of continuities, the Decepticons were revolting against oppression! And in some, like IDW1, the Autobots were those very oppressors!
@@Oktiduz yeah fair enough, I guess it wasn't just le being a weird edgy kid whenever I played around with my transformers back then. guess I really was onto something after all. (also helped that the decepticons were always cooler in general and as such I wanted them to win more lften than not)
To be fair, the G1 and Bayverse Autobots will fight each other over leading the group. Ironically, I'd prefer Grimlock as a leader instead of Sentinal, Magnus, or even Optimus
@@Oktiduz Grew up reading those, that was one of my favorite arcs. Furman and Budiansky clearly had VERY different interpretations of Grimlock. Or maybe Bob just wrote him like that to grind Furman's gears. 😂
What's terrifying about this, is that every single thing you said, I always thought, "well, sure, but America does that too but worse, and we're proud of it". Oh goodness.
While I may prefer Prime over Animated. I can’t deny the impact it had on not only the franchise, but also being one best shows airing on CW at the time. And I gotta give it balls for depicting the Autobots not completely good or benevolent like in G1 or the Unicorn trilogy, that’s one of the many things that Animated did better then Prime it showed how corrupt the Autobot government is, instead of telling us like in Prime before the war.
Holy shit, this is amazing! I'm actually making a video myself about a very similar topic and comparing the Decepticons to real life violent protesters and resistance/rebel groups! It's so great to see fellow TFA fans catching onto these details as well!
TFA is so amazing, right!? Everyone thinks of Prime or IDW when it comes to fleshing out the Bot/Con war, but everyone forgets about Animated! Not us though. Not us....
FYI, that insert at 3:46 is a pointless and an unnecessary distraction from the point you were trying to make (not to mention incorrect). and, btdubs, it's "Hip-Hip-hooray" not "yip-yip" As for this show, I may go back and try to watch it now after seeing your video. When previously watching all of TF media in order recently, I avoided it like the plague before because it looked way too kiddie-fied for my taste, especially after the epic powerhouse that was Transformers:Prime
Not sure which point was incorrect! I’m pretty sure the Constitution Art 2 says that the president is the the “Commander in Chief.” Sorry about the pop-ups! I’ll make sure to keep that in mind for future videos. I’m glad you’re now willing to give this show a try! I hope you find it as entertaining and amazing as I do!
I’ve been wanting to make my own Transformers series. I would give it a TFA, Prime, and Justice League cartoon vibe. It would be called Transformers Extinction. Peter Cullen would be Optimus Prime & David Kaye would be Orion Pax. Cybertron is now a dead planet; Optimus and many other Autobots come to live on Earth, although begrudgingly. They would include Ironhide (voiced by Cullen), Ratchet, Prowl, etc. Optimus and his team would have to fight off Deceptions and also have to deal with the Autobot Elite Guard. Eventually one of the bots could possibly betray Optimus, like Hawk Girl in Justice League. Two concepts that I got from watching Animated is that Elita One was infected by spider venom which caused her to become a techno organic. In my show Elita One would be infected by a symbiotic entity like Venom from Spider Man. Another is thing is although her we don’t know her full origins is that Sari Sumdac could’ve been created by the All Spark. In my show the All Spark could inhabit the body of a human being. In Transformers Prime Starscream said he wanted to be an Autobot and then quickly decided to live out on his own. I would definitely give him a redemption ark in my show. Last but not least we would have an Orion Pax ark and would get to see him actually interacting with humans after he escapes the Decepticons. In his state he doesn’t remember being a Prime. He’s an alien and only knows the Cybertronian language, specifically the Iacon dialect which means he can’t understand what humans are saying. Those are my ideas but if anyone has any other ideas I would love to hear them
@@ryanmatthews3609Cliffjumper wouldn’t die and would be a main character. Chromia, Moonracer, Arcee, Warpath, & Tracks. For the Cons, I would have Knockout and Breakdown. Lugnut and Blitzwing, Slipstream, and a lot more obscure characters. Maybe as a sequel it could be a post apocalyptic earth with Beast Wars Megatron and Optimus Primal. Kind of like a Logan style story where Primal is protecting a special kind of Cybertronian names Transmutate. That was a character in Beast Wars. There’s endless possibilities
@@Oktiduz I think I was just reiterating what you said lol about how Animated Bots have a Government cabinet but they can't do much & there's no established laws or anything where you can oust the leader because if I was Alpha Trion or Perceptor I would have booted Sentinal so fast! I wonder if in Animated they ever hinted to having a Democracy...
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If G1 Cartoon Ultra Magnus meet his animated counterpart, he would forever use that as a reason why he shouldn't lead the autobots.
Ironically, I think Ultra Magnus led the Autobots as much as if not more than Rodimus into battle in season 3!
@@Oktiduz Magnus was great as a war commander, but he kept humble which is why he supported Rodimus since he know he was able to make things happen. Which he actually did compared to Optimus.
imo the best magnus to lead was the prime magnus
@@yaboiirich8385 yeah, aligned continuity magnus would be appalled by animated magnus’ leadership to. By the way, prime magnus was voiced by Michelle Ironside, who voiced darkseid in Superman the animated series and justice league the animated series.
@@Jetblast01Optimus also made things happen, too
If Sentinel Prime wasn't enough of a scumbag, just remember that time he completely rejected Blackarachnia's (Elita's) existence to her face instead of being overjoyed at the thought of his friend actually being alive. He chose his disgust for organics over his love for a friend that he claimed to care so much about.
Yeah, we need Season 4 just to see Sentinel get what he deserves for being the biggest douche in the galaxy...
@@Oktiduz a redemption arc would be nice cause tbh he isn't THAT horrible
@@OktiduzTorn apart by Archnid’s army of insecticons named Hardshell, Bombshell, Kickback, Shrapnel, Shopshot, Skrapnel, Inferno, Waspinator, Venom, Chopshop, Barrage, Ransack, Tarantulas, and Scorponok.
I even recall he told her that she "should have gone offline" rather than live as techno-organic.
tick: and you call yourself a hero.
It's funny how the show that looks the most cartoonish is in fact among the darkest of Transformers series through its unconventional depiction of the Autobots.
Kids cartoons back in the 2000s balanced fun and zany with real complex shit - now, we just get crap like Teen Titans Go haha....
@@OktiduzI hate Teen Titans Go. It's a slap in the face to the fans of the original show.
@@christopherallen8822 I agree. I loved Teen Titans, Powerpuff Girls, etc, so to see these shows massacred is as if my heart was ripped straight from my chest and subjected to the most horrendous torture imaginable...
@@Oktiduz I know, man. I despise modern day Cartoon Network. What once was an abundant field is now a barren wasteland.
End TEEN titans go and bring back Transformers animated for a season 4.
“All he got was a slap on the wrist” yeah that sounds realistic
Unfortunately so!
Gonna be real this is probably my favorite version of TF lore and the fact that this war feels like a war makes me love this show
I agree! It does that aspect very well!
TFA is the closest to the Shattered Glass Universe in the animated series.
We were supposed to have gotten a Shattered Glass episode had season 4 been greenlit! 😭
really?
How is Animated somehow almost as dark as IDW comics?????
The Robots in Disguise run by John Barber really does develop the ideas hinted here in Animated!
Pft don't be ridiculous NOT EVEN CLOSE
Animated without looking deep into it seems fine, maybe even a bit scary, but not bad, however when you start thinking into it closer and realize how horrifying it is, you figure out that it’s bad and scary, I wouldn’t be surprised if many autobots committed su*c*de over this, sure it doesn’t live up to IDW 100%, its horrifying and if I was an Autobot- I’d get a human or alien avatar and get the fuck out of there
@omniversalpowerscaler789 Well, they did show that they *could* have human avatars, but chose otherwise, but thank you for the compliment!🫶
As it goes in war, there is no good side, just less evil ones.
Sure, the Cons are evil but I'll just point to the fact that Jetstorm and Jetfire were created from them studying Decepticons which implies they experimented on Decepticon prisoners during the war to learn how to duplicate their ability to fly and take jet alternate modes.
Or you could have mentioned that Jetfire and jetstorm actually used to be normal middle class bots until an accident happened and causing them both to be severely injured and while they were unconscious the autobot higher ups decided to use them and turn them into flyers to be used to fight against decepticons
From the comics
Despots lol.
This isn't IDW Optimus Prime. The bot who literally annexed Earth and dragged it into a galactic council against the wishes of Earth leadership.
IDW Prime is very intriguing!
The show always gave me the impression that the decepticons and auto bots were almost different races. For example decepticons are usually taller and larger, and can usually fly.
From what I seem to understand is similarly to G1 the Cons are built for military work which is why they can fly and have larger builds and weapons.
Even their names are likely due to their design purposes such as Blackout's E.M.P or Starscream's plasma scream.
They likely rebelled due to their lack of rights while others like D16 A.K.A Megatron were apart of it due to being poorly treated.
Yeah, reminds me of the G1 lore... makes sense since Derrik J Wyatt was the ultimate TF nerd...
Man, Animated has so much deep lore it needs to explore...
There is a reason why Ultra Magnus is my least favorite Autobot in Tf Animated
While the Autobots do often come off as the more noble faction, people tend to forget that this franchise revolves around a literal war. Both sides have blood on their hands. The Autobots ruling Cybertron with such a stern and rigid leadership in Animated never did sit right with me. Excellent video.
Thank you so much!
IDW also portrays Autobot rule as a fascist totalitarian police state, and without Decepticons it would have become a full blown North Korea.
oh boy have you ever read the IDW comic run this is there the True Evil shit of the Autobots happen
This is why that famous scene in the IDW comics of Megatron facing a literally field of sparks that died under his command was flawed.. The Necrobot claimed each flower was placed at those who killed, or those who COMMANDED THOSE WHO KILLED.
Meaning Optimus's field shoild be at least as large as Megatrons. (And then there's the absurdity that Megatron only just discoverer Bots die in war by the thousands. This is a basic fact of war that you'd think he'd have come to terms with long ago.)
The story I got was that the Decepticons attempted a genocide on the Autobots and the Autobots made a military dictatorship out of desperation.
That's not impossible! I wish the history of Animated was expanded on more - it's so goddamn interesting!
@@Oktiduz if only.
@@Oktiduzand then that dictatorship refused to relinquish power at the end of the war to the chagrin of the civilians such as Alpha Trion
I did thought that TFA was several tones darker than TFP as I watched them concurrently. I prefer them both to G1 or anything recent.
They’re great shows!
@@Oktiduz and beast wars.
I like these types of videos on Transformers Animated. I know Decepticons are evil, but damn, the life of Autobots are really messed up. I feel bad for the ones that never wanted to be in the war. You are literally treated as nothing and have no name unless you join the Autobots. You can’t even be factionless; you’ll treated like a Decepticon. If you so much as try to criticize Ultra Magnus, Sentinel Prime or the Elite Guard justice system, you’re possibly seen as a traitor to some. I love Animated, but some parts of it like Cybertron are depressing. Just like war 😔
Excellent points!
@@Oktiduz Also what Warpath said about Prowl before kinda sets off some red flags (no pun intended)
@@cideofsoos I VERY STRONGLY considered including that in the video though I have to remember that non-despotic countries with mandatory service with severe consequences for draft dodging do exist!
That's called fascism. Police state bs.
megatron lookin alooooooot nicer now.
Animated Megatron is most likely my favorite interpretation of this character!
@@OktiduzMine too. He was just terrific. And he had the best transformation sequence in the show.
He's still a monster tho
@@kwayneboy1524 There are no heroes... other than Prime and his crew!
@kwayneboy1524 lol, yeah, he's no saint, but he would still let me be me.
I think with the bumblebee name, it’s more of a nickname that sticks rather than names At boot camp but I could be wrong
It is rather confusing!
I think of it like the clones from clone wars there names are a series of numbers and letters but they get nicknames that eventually become their real names.
With Autobots like Sentinel and Ultra Magnus doing scumming things and act like they were doing the right thing, it makes Megatron and The Decepticons looks more heroic than they are and I know the Decepticons are not heroes, but At least they will were honest about their cause even they are dangerous, you couldn’t blame them for trying to take down the Autobot system.
Autobot high command is sickening with the heroic front they put on. Look, Megs might be evil, Blitzwing may be nuts, Shockwave is of course a traitor, and Starscream is unapologetically power-hungry, but at least they don't try to act all virtuous and morally pompous. They know what they want, and they will do anything to get what they want.
@@Oktiduz Yeah. They suck. Y'know how Jetfire and Jetstorm came to be? They were two brothers who worked as repair bots and were near fatally injured due to an on-site accident. Seeing the two as completely expendable, the Elite Guard experimented on them. Grafting Decepticon code and CNA they took from Starscream onto them, hoping to duplicate the Seeker's flight and combat abilities.
@@christopherallen8822 Did... not know that. Jeez, how are they so fucking cheery all the time? Is it to mask their pain, or did the Autobots override their central processors?
@@Oktiduz No idea, man. No idea. All I know is that the tests on Starscream were what provided him his opportunity to escape from the Steelhaven, the Elite Guard ship, and that this was Magnus' idea. With the Decepticons in the camps and settlements on the outer rim of the Galaxy getting restless, he felt it necessary to send a message to the Cons that they mean business. That they're not screwing around. So he came up with Project Safeguard. The infusion of Decepticon flight and combat capabilities into an Autobot. Naturally, they didn't want to risk any of their soldiers, so they went looking for suitable "volunteers" from the Energon Farms and refineries. They found two refinery workers, twins, who'd been injured on the job due to an explosion. The process took nearly a deca-cycle and entailed the fusion of Starscream's code, a complete circuitry overhaul, some fluid transfusions, and tempering and reconstruction of their armored plating. Apparently, Project Safeguard stressed the Elite Guard's scientific resources to their limits.
I love this show so much I enjoy seeing Sentinel 's head on the ground while Optimus laughs at his dumb face 😂. This one of those shows that doesn't get old I kinda want to re watch it again now.
It's always a blast to watch!
It’s catharsis for his dickishness finally getting karmic justice.
Now i see megatron with different eyes
He's no angel, but really, at the end of the day, almost everyone with some kind of authority is an asshole whether they be Autobot or Decepticon
@@Oktiduz but is still a magnificent villain never the less.
I can say the same for aligned Megatron. But then he started started ingesting purple space crack
There was a fanfiction I love where the G1 Autobots meet there Animated counterparts and G1 Optimus Prime flat out decks Sentinel Prime for his attitude with humans and calls him a disgrace and an insult to everything the Autobot symbol stands for. I know animated has a lot of fans, but I love G1 for how clear good and evil are and the nobility of the Autobots and humans. Not to say they didn't have complex moral stories, but they showed there is clear good and clear evil and demonstrated virtue even when making tough choices.
That sounds pretty cool!
Can i get the name and author?It sounds interesting
That sounds like a really fun time. I’d love to read it. I’m sure G1 Optimus is proud of Animated
THANK YOU! Ive been saying this stuff for years
Yeah, Autobot high command is really quite sus, isn't it?
I don’t know why, but I wanna create a fan stop motion series of where Optimus at the end fights for the all Spark gets his ass royally beaten by megatron with prime being barley functional in power master form all spark keeps him alive, but in a stasis form and the scientist of cybertron and ratchet merged the power, master armor with prime to make him look a little bit more like his G1 and the all spark transfers, knowledge into the little matrix case and gives it to Optimus
Using your dying leader as a means for propoganda is crazy 💀
Especially explicitly showing his dying-but-not-yet-dead body on live TV!
Funny enough, the closest we got to a tyrannical autobot leader was in out of all shows RID 2015.
Oh by the way, in the comic, Transformers Animated: The rise of safe guard, (A comic that was sold exclusivley with the Transformers Animated Safeguard figure set) it's established that, The Elite Guard considers non-members to be expendable and takes no issue with with performing dangerous experiments on ordinary robots and from the looks of it, they didn't even volentueer willingly! Wait, there's more, in that comic sentinel says he used live ammo for a test to see if Jetstorm and Jetfire were naturally adept at flying or not, which if they hadn't they would've died, and Ultra Magnus says Sentinel "showed great initiative" Wait, there's more, They also put Jetstorm and Jetfire into an untested glitchy simulator which almost killed them! WTF?!!
Damn… I did hear about the Twins being tortured… but not like this…
@@Oktiduz At this rate, it’s official cannon that ultra magnus was seriously projecting when he told Optimus “being a hero is not in his programming.” Well, who’s not programmed to be a hero now ultra?!
The problem is...Transformers doesn't get a season 4...ever. If it does, it's always a watered down TV special like the Rebirth or movie specials like Cyberverse. Never a proper 4th season. 4 to Hasbro is like 3 for Valve. --Hasbro ran by Guido Mista confirmed--
Hasbro wants to ensure that every new generation gets to experience a new Transformers show from its start - of course, the problem with the approach is that no one continuity can ever get the length and depth it deserves!
@@Oktiduz If only Hasbro ever learned from their mistakes and give the shows time to finish cooking, then there might be a lot more to be made from them and less errors that's been going on with their shows since S3 of G1.
Except for Rescue Bots. Idk how but they got 7 seasons and it was great
@@fegreninja7197 and why not animated? if rescue bots can pass s4 so can tfa.
@@ryanmatthews3609 I mean, on the bright side, without TFA’s sacrifice we may not have gotten TFP
the decepticon propoganda is strong with this video
Don’t even get me started on the ‘Cons. The difference is that they’re at least honest in their maliciousness!
oh yeah no i fully know that they are the ones who are the violent type and they are chaotic and evil and whatnot. doesnt stop me from fully supporting them :DDDDD
@@GoosedotMP4 if you thought the animated Decepticons were innocent wait until you see the sg cons.
Maybe season 4 was not made with the same reason as not continuing Anarky's story in the Batman comics in the 90's. So much secrets revealed within 3 seasons. Only got names replaced with certain Autobots. Maybe oligarchs and politicians petitioned to un-air Animated s4 regarding that possibility. And it's not even a longshot that it's not even an assumption!
Oh man, that makes too much sense!
one thing i love about TFA is how it aproaches military. america has a big issue with glorifiyng the military and war, which is very prominent in the bayverse. in animated they approach it differentally, i especially like how they did Ratchet's story here
The flashbacks were especially poignant! Loved how the show fleshed out Ratchet’s role as a father figure to Omega Supreme when he was expected to be nothing more but a drill sergeant to the “built for combat” bot!
@@Oktiduz exactly! I love that they showed his past as a solider and his change in attitude towards the war and the government. Especially near the end of season 3
Always here for autobot slander
Haha! Thanks for watching!
with this vudeo and "learning to love the michael bay transformers" video. I'm starting to think there's no good thing that can come out of an autobot led government.
You gotta remember that in a lot of continuities, the Decepticons were revolting against oppression! And in some, like IDW1, the Autobots were those very oppressors!
@@Oktiduz yeah fair enough, I guess it wasn't just le being a weird edgy kid whenever I played around with my transformers back then. guess I really was onto something after all.
(also helped that the decepticons were always cooler in general and as such I wanted them to win more lften than not)
@@Oktiduz there was shattered glass.
This show was goated
Agreed! 2000ths cartoons hit different!
I wished we’ve gotten a 4th Season of Transformers Animated .
To be fair, the G1 and Bayverse Autobots will fight each other over leading the group. Ironically, I'd prefer Grimlock as a leader instead of Sentinal, Magnus, or even Optimus
Grimlock as leader made for some very fun stories in the marvel comics!
@@Oktiduz Grew up reading those, that was one of my favorite arcs. Furman and Budiansky clearly had VERY different interpretations of Grimlock. Or maybe Bob just wrote him like that to grind Furman's gears. 😂
at the very least the g1 autobots still treat each other as equals unlike the bayverse autobots.
What's terrifying about this, is that every single thing you said, I always thought, "well, sure, but America does that too but worse, and we're proud of it". Oh goodness.
It’s pretty scary how the real world is sometimes reflecting our media more and more!
While I may prefer Prime over Animated. I can’t deny the impact it had on not only the franchise, but also being one best shows airing on CW at the time. And I gotta give it balls for depicting the Autobots not completely good or benevolent like in G1 or the Unicorn trilogy, that’s one of the many things that Animated did better then Prime it showed how corrupt the Autobot government is, instead of telling us like in Prime before the war.
2:33 Sentinel Prime PSA.
That's a lot
I wasn't expecting that..
It really hit me on subsequent rewatches - didn't really catch it the first time around!
Holy shit, this is amazing! I'm actually making a video myself about a very similar topic and comparing the Decepticons to real life violent protesters and resistance/rebel groups! It's so great to see fellow TFA fans catching onto these details as well!
TFA is so amazing, right!? Everyone thinks of Prime or IDW when it comes to fleshing out the Bot/Con war, but everyone forgets about Animated! Not us though. Not us....
@@Oktiduz and there's beast wars, shattered glass and TransTech.
13:26 i was wondering if this is from a movie or tv show and been trying to find it but could'nt.
It's from the movie version of 1984!
@Oktiduz thanks man
megatron should have won the war
He is extremely charismatic!
@@Oktiduz and intelligent.
idk the autobots feel like silly goobers in this show lol
Seems a TV show with dorky movements, though the action is Overtop.
FYI, that insert at 3:46 is a pointless and an unnecessary distraction from the point you were trying to make (not to mention incorrect).
and, btdubs, it's "Hip-Hip-hooray" not "yip-yip"
As for this show, I may go back and try to watch it now after seeing your video. When previously watching all of TF media in order recently, I avoided it like the plague before because it looked way too kiddie-fied for my taste, especially after the epic powerhouse that was Transformers:Prime
Not sure which point was incorrect! I’m pretty sure the Constitution Art 2 says that the president is the the “Commander in Chief.” Sorry about the pop-ups! I’ll make sure to keep that in mind for future videos. I’m glad you’re now willing to give this show a try! I hope you find it as entertaining and amazing as I do!
This is why we need more seasons and see Sentinel get his ass whooped
I would do anything to get more seasons of Animated!
@@Oktiduz I’d sacrifice my soul to unicron just for 3 more seasons
I’ve been wanting to make my own Transformers series. I would give it a TFA, Prime, and Justice League cartoon vibe. It would be called Transformers Extinction. Peter Cullen would be Optimus Prime & David Kaye would be Orion Pax. Cybertron is now a dead planet; Optimus and many other Autobots come to live on Earth, although begrudgingly. They would include Ironhide (voiced by Cullen), Ratchet, Prowl, etc. Optimus and his team would have to fight off Deceptions and also have to deal with the Autobot Elite Guard. Eventually one of the bots could possibly betray Optimus, like Hawk Girl in Justice League. Two concepts that I got from watching Animated is that Elita One was infected by spider venom which caused her to become a techno organic. In my show Elita One would be infected by a symbiotic entity like Venom from Spider Man. Another is thing is although her we don’t know her full origins is that Sari Sumdac could’ve been created by the All Spark. In my show the All Spark could inhabit the body of a human being. In Transformers Prime Starscream said he wanted to be an Autobot and then quickly decided to live out on his own. I would definitely give him a redemption ark in my show. Last but not least we would have an Orion Pax ark and would get to see him actually interacting with humans after he escapes the Decepticons. In his state he doesn’t remember being a Prime. He’s an alien and only knows the Cybertronian language, specifically the Iacon dialect which means he can’t understand what humans are saying. Those are my ideas but if anyone has any other ideas I would love to hear them
Those are three cartoons I love! Sounds like an amazing premise! Especially the Orion Pax bit.
and the autobots and Decepticons?
@@ryanmatthews3609 are you talking about voice actors
@@smashley4661 no i meant both the autobots and decepticons in your transformers series.
@@ryanmatthews3609Cliffjumper wouldn’t die and would be a main character. Chromia, Moonracer, Arcee, Warpath, & Tracks. For the Cons, I would have Knockout and Breakdown. Lugnut and Blitzwing, Slipstream, and a lot more obscure characters. Maybe as a sequel it could be a post apocalyptic earth with Beast Wars Megatron and Optimus Primal. Kind of like a Logan style story where Primal is protecting a special kind of Cybertronian names Transmutate. That was a character in Beast Wars. There’s endless possibilities
Yes
I'm pretty shocked by how many actually agree with these points!
ALL HAIL MEGATRON! THE TRUE HERO OF CYBERTRON!!!
Earthspark is already worse... Unless you're a Christophobe
Why?
I know this d4mb ash bish did not just say "christophobe" LMAOOO YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS LOLOLOL STFU
it's not that bad for the most part.
@@ryanmatthews3609 but what happens in it?
Well ain't you just a special little guy, standing up for the "good Christan" side against the evil "wokes." :)
Cybertron also has this weird type of Democracy where there's a single city council... unelected (???)
Tbh, I don't remember much of Galaxy Force/Cybertron! I'll have to give it a look!
@@Oktiduz I think I was just reiterating what you said lol about how Animated Bots have a Government cabinet but they can't do much & there's no established laws or anything where you can oust the leader because if I was Alpha Trion or Perceptor I would have booted Sentinal so fast!
I wonder if in Animated they ever hinted to having a Democracy...