Is Bowen listening to this guy , could learn something ,,, hehe but wont cause his is Labor , & is deaf dumb & blind , no wounder they don't want nuclear, just want us to keep paying higher bills
The Gencost has been prepared consistently for years, even during the time of the coalition. Hardly politicised. Renewables costs are dropping significantly whereas nuclear cost continue upwards.
@@peterking8564 I do not dispute that the "Gencost" has been produced for years - so put that to one side. That does not mean that the results are not politicised. The increases in nuclear costs are primarily 'regulatory driven' whether those are health and safety costs or the costs to overcome numerous regulatory hurdles including getting legislations changed.
CSIRO has no real world credibility in this space, they don't know how to build major infrastructure or project manage on a large scale moreover, if they were financially sharp they wouldn't work for CSIRO. CSIRO has been horribly politicised - few want to work there.
Thank you Sir for your expert analysis. Great interview!!. Please get this Gentleman back to give the Public the information imparted by the Experts in their field. Thank you.
@@oldbloke204he'd be a lot more honest than the crap coming from the government sponsored CSIRO who'd say anything, to please the clown Bowen, to keep their funding!
@@oldbloke204 People with vast experience are always biased--unlike Blackout Bowen whose only experience with renewables is based on fantacy and politics.
Did you hear what he just said? $600 BILLION dollars is Labour Party’s costing plan too “initially”, just too set up renewables-*(WITHOUT), the cost too replace it all every 10-20yrs…….Which in turn will be about $300 Billion dollars “more” costs to the consumer every 20yrs in best scenario! LNP costing ,”even if it will initially cost the same as Labour’s renewable crap”, will last 80-100 years without needing replacing! I mean really; *(Do you really even have too think about which one is cheaper, and more sustainable, & cost effective in the long run)! Mmmmmmm……
@AndrewMitchell001 all those transmission lines at the old coal fired plant will have to be replaced in 15 20 yrs. Howlong does it take to pay off a nuclear plant. Eroupe had to back off all their plants last summer because their rivers and lakes were too hot for cooling the plants. They are not high lighting these facts.
The Boss in Canberra can overrule the States. If Dutton has a majority in the Parliament, I believe he then has control of the Senate.....would like to be proven correct here?
CHEAPEST does NOT equal best. Would Australia build the CHEAPEST bridge? The CHEAPEST Opera House? NO, we want the best. Nuclear is the best form of energy, a legacy nation building project for Australia.
Anyone notice how solar is powered by a nuclear reaction of the sun. LOL 😂 just saying What's wrong with just gas and Coal very cheap and very reliable.
we are paying the price for coal through natural disasters like floods and bushfires. Is coal really cheap? Insurance prices are rising in Australia every year due to natural disasters. Think about the hidden costs of coal. Burning coal releases more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than other fossil fuels, which contributes to global warming , climate change and ill health.
@@BonitaLizzy 100%. I hear you. Just remember the fossil fuelers likely had sad upbringings and the damage is done. They don't even care about the environment for their future family.
@keepitreal2902 : On average a nuclear plant costs $8B. The poles and wires for renewables will cost $1.5 TRILLION ! The average nuclear plant is built in 7 or 8 years. No renewable scheme has been completed in the last 15 years and none are expected before 2035 and that time frame is doubtful.
@buildmotosykletist1987 Your "facts" are fanciful. Lets us first dispense with your assertion that no renewable scheme has been completed in the last 15 years: 1. Wind Projects: Silverton Wind Farm (NSW): Completed in 2019, with a capacity of 200 MW. Mount Emerald Wind Farm (QLD): Delivered 180 MW in 2019. Willogoleche Wind Farm (SA): Contributed 119 MW in 2019. 2. Solar Farms: Darling Downs Solar Farm (QLD): A 110 MW large-scale solar project completed in 2019. Daydream Solar Farm (QLD): A 150 MW project delivered in the same year. Numurkah Solar Farm (VIC): A 100 MW solar farm that supports both local and industrial needs. Australia has added over 27 utility-scale battery projects as of 2023, with a combined capacity exceeding 5 GW. This includes projects like the Hornsdale Power Reserve in South Australia, known for stabilizing the grid and supporting renewable integration. Over 4 million Australian rooftops now feature solar panels, collectively contributing significant capacity and reducing reliance on the grid. As for your claim about nuclear: The typical build time and cost of nuclear reactors in Western countries vary significantly based on factors such as design, regulatory frameworks, and construction practices. Build Time: Construction times for new nuclear reactors in Western countries generally range from 5 to 10 years for standardized projects. However, the total time from project initiation to completion can extend to 10-15 years, considering planning, permitting, and licensing stages. In cases of first-of-a-kind (FOAK) projects or where delays occur, such as in the U.S. and Europe, construction has taken 15+ years. For instance, Finland's Olkiluoto-3 reactor took 17 years from start to finish. Costs: The cost of building nuclear plants in Western countries is generally high, ranging from $6,000 to $12,000 per kilowatt (kW) of capacity. For example: The UK’s Hinkley Point C is estimated at $25-30 billion AUD for 3.2 GW capacity. The U.S. Vogtle plant's new reactors are costing approximately $30 billion USD for 2.2 GW capacity. The overnight construction cost (excluding financing) of recent projects is about $7,000-10,000 per kW, but total costs often escalate due to delays and financing issues. In short, you are wrong in every respect.
"It's just the vibe" is no longer enough for ordinary folks who can't afford this wind and solar pipe-dream. What's the difference between base-load power like nuclear and wind/solar? 1. We need China for all wind/solar, including battery storage - but we have all capabilities and skills to utilise nuclear technology for base-load power. 2. Base-load power stations can be positioned where the grid can already use them. Solar/Wind means destruction of native forests & wildlife, and no plan for recycling or replacement. Mitch, Australia.
Thank you Dr Paterson, for giving a clear and precise set of details on why renewables alone cannot work, and why, a strong robust base load supply has to be developed. What a sharp contrast from the buffoons and uninformed wannabe grid designers who insist that we need renewables only. Your contributing dialogue is greatly appreciated. We need a balanced mix of energy supply sources, Dutton has clearly taken his time to research a complex topic that he is not expert on, and he has come up with a clever solution. Now, all we need to is get Albo, Bowen and Chalmers out of that mix.
There is another important consideration with the two options. Labors energy plan not only costs 250 billion more, it only produces part time power. Sun has to be shining or wind blowing, or both. The nuclear power will provide 24/7 365 per year regardless of weather of time of day. So even if it cost more then labors plan, it's still the better option.
@@CraigHarvey climate change causes it to rain, haven't you been watching the floods on the telly?, climate change causes the droughts when the left needs it for its narratives.
@@CraigHarvey If we run out of water it will be because of ramping up the population which labor is also doing, and building no new water infrastructure......or housing for the that matter. You should stop worrying about climate change, it's all BS. The future under lefty woke rule is one of increased homelessness, poverty, frequent blackouts, power restrictions, high prices, and yeah, probably run out of water too.
@@shanecollie5177 what's false, that nuclear power plants us millions of litres of water a day or that Australia, the driest inhabited continent experiences droughts?
Bro, gotta say, your dedication to your dislike of India and Indian people is unparalleled 🥤🍿 Don’t think I’ve ever seen someone turn their hatred towards a specific country into a fcking hobby 😂
@@EducationWillSetYouFree If Indians were capable of building or maintaining a "great country" they'd be able to do it in India. It will not be great, it will be miserable.
Great comprehensive and unbiased report from a leading world expert - contradicts Bowen and his labour colleagues constant false messaging to the Australian public - Appalling!!
I would rather sink my Tax money into a future with Nuclear, which has been proven and refined so much rather than an inconsistent Renewables. The renewable energy infrastructure just isnt good enough and technology itself isnt good enough to keep up with everything nowadays
Where I live in the US nuclear will never be built (never say never) because many in the MSM say its dangerous and wind and solar is much safer. But the point is electric demand is growing and the ban on nuclear will be something our politicians will come to regret down the road. Germany is thinking about the end to nuclear in the next few years, not sure if they are really going to do it, even though many plants are in the stages of shutdown.
With our enormous uranium stocks its unbelievable that we're still having this debate. Instead of burning coal we should be selling it - we have very high quality coal and its worth enough to significantly offset the cost of introducing nuclear. We need nuclear anyway, to build civil nuclear industries, to provide the right manufacturing and education base needed to have nuclear powered subs. Plus it doesn't have the issues with synchronisation and inertia that renewables have, and doesn't need an expensive fragile grid to support it. Plus we can power pumped hydro off-peak, which means we need to burn less gas for ramping purposes.
The thing with solar power is this. ALREADY too much solar power is generated at peak solar to the extent that people are being CHARGED for the power they put onto the grid. If even more solar panels are installed the distribution system could collapse. I see no one talking about the management and storage of excess solar power.
Great interview why can't we get him and bowen on your show to have a debate i think all ausies would love to see it happen this person knows his stuff 😊
If nuclear is so wonderful and financially viable, allow private enterprise to build them, don’t use public money. I bet if you did this, no private money would come forward to do it.
An Opal research reactor is not seen as a threat to the rest but larger U235 reactor have plutonium as a biproduct that can be used to produce Nuclear weapons. This makes Australia a Nuclear power and an automatic target in any conflict even if is only against any our of or allies.
Appreciate the detailed breakdown! Could you help me with something unrelated: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
We won't be getting Meta and Google AI Data Centres anytime soon. Australia only has a tiny population (domestic demand) and submarine ocean cables would all require significant bandwidth upgrades.
The scale needed for power generation while a profit is made means it will cost more, the dust needs to settle over the estimated costs, I don't trust Duttons prediction & these enormous complex engineering projects always seem to run over budget with the so called adults in charge.
Spread the good news everyone that the market operators can do nuclear much ,much cheaper than renewables which have never worked anywhere and require huge taxpayers subsidies.
Its called synchronous generation. Once the generator is brought up to operating speed, it has a DC voltage applied to stator,,, this locks the electric fields to a 50hz cycle, critical for the grid. Windmills and solar panels disrupt this. An electric grid shouldn't really have these 2 types of very different electricity generation. Renewable source electricity is very poor quality,, similar to a petrol generator,,, the output fluctuates in voltage, sine wave and frequency.
But but but … the Teal MP Nuclear energy expert, Allegra Spender ( apt surname ! ) , disagrees ? After reading and understanding the expert energy report over coffee …
$331 Billion??? Pull the other one. Cost in the strike activity and the 900 blokes watching the 100 blokes work the $500+ billion is probably a conservative estimate. Dutton is playing games just like SKY plays at being a "news" service.
you may have a point if the cfmeu were excluded along with any other recalcitrant union activity and actually employed people with skill and a desire to work and, bearing in mind the true cost of the current so called roll out of renewables which has not reached any achievable construction or financial milestones and probably never will.
The Curtis Island gas plants were built without strikes. And a didn't the LNP clean up the building industry when they were in last or did they just waste 100s of millions in a royal commission? What about their 200 millions they wasted on building carpark oh that right for two hundred million they didn't build even one. Pure economic geniuses hey.
How many gigawatts does Lucas's heights put out zip zero. Snowy 2.0 NBN 200 million dollar carparks zero? By the time these reactors are built the transmission lines will need replacing the LNP don't tell you that.
Is labor going to be personly responsible for the renewable cost blow outs that have already happening , No! Are the CSIRO going to be held responsible if their numbers are wrong, doubtful Costs blow out on mega projects get over it, its what the finished project is able to deliver. We already 100% know what it cost to build a nuclear plant it's be done multiple times around the world over decade's . We don't know how to build a intergrated renewable and storage grid its never been done befor, we are making it up as we go along.
We need to have a moratorium on this subject at the next election irs the ordinary people who will either suffer oo benifite from either the right or wrong outcome
According to data from the International Energy Agency (IEA) and International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA), seven countries - including Albania, Bhutan, Ethiopia, Iceland, Nepal, Paraguay, and the Democratic Republic of Congo - now rely entirely on renewable sources like geothermal, hydro, solar or wind power for their energy needs. The Dr needs to get his facts right.
Think about the hidden costs of Nuclear. Waste management and disposal Nuclear power plants must account for the cost of managing and disposing of radioactive waste, which can remain dangerous for thousands of years. These costs are usually internalized by the utility that generates the power and passed on to the customer. Decommissioning The cost of decommissioning a nuclear power plant can be around 9-15% of the initial capital cost. External costs Nuclear power plants can have external costs to society, such as the cost of dealing with a serious accident that's beyond the insurance limit. Refurbishment The cost of refurbishing a nuclear power plant should be included in the capital costs.
you havnt taken into account about wind and solar which will have to be replaced every 15 years , disposal and the spreading of poisens from toxic resens from the blades , look up iam plimer , look at facts , and the results are if you care about the enviroment you would never support wind and solar get informed
Mmmm ludicrous comment. Tell all the maintenance & replacement costs of solar & wind turbines. Tell all about the environmental damage to construct, install & dispose.
For the umpteenth time there is no wastage Thanks to Orano's world-leading industrial-scale technologies, almost 96% of the spent fuel used in nuclear reactors for power generation or research purposes can be recycled. Best you get a new Whinge. 😂
The choice is simple really cheap reliable power and great way of life with nuclear or a life living in poverty with high energy bills and little or no electricity to power your home which is what labor the greens and the teals want
Question, Adrian. Why did the South Africa government stop funding the development of the pebble bed modular reactor of which you were General Manager of Business Development Operations? Was it because of no customers or investors? You can't say "100% renewables" are only being done here and then say it will also be running with coal fire plants. People will choose the cheaper option for power and in that scenario, no one will go nuclear. ;)
Really!!!! How can any power source which produces 20% for solar and 30% for wind of the time, be reliable snd cheap. Really!!!! The cost of power in Germanyy for most of last week was Euro900/KwHr. Because cloud and NO wind for over a week. Please, please leave the religion on Net Zero to be a Sunday thought bubble.
Nuclear scientist, Phd in Engineering, 2012 Professional Engineer of the Year, ex chief executive officer of ANSTO.... If anyone is an expert it's this guy.
@@EducationWillSetYouFree But how do they capture the energy from the sun and the wind and then store it for later use (because it's part time), without making highly toxic and often unethically produced products? Tell us, we're waiting....
these costings are a total joke, everyone know by 2050 these will cost over $1T and some who's going to afford $1000 a week power bills??????????????????????
You are correct, if Labor stacks the projects with their mates in management and it is union built, be paying the CFMEU tax, or whatever they morph into
Labor are already suggesting a $7-$9 Trillion Dollars by 2060 on Replaceables and are hiding a half Trillion Dollars blowout already after 2.5 years in power, what else could possibly go wrong, yay. Coal, gas & nuclear is king, everything renewables is expensive, unreliable, dangerous, energy and carbon intense, wipes out huge areas of wildlife, farmland and natural mountains and forests and would not be possible or considered without govt (our money) funding, is mostly unrecycleable, subject to damage from: storms, cyclones, hail, lightening, bushfires, wars and other things, is not reliable or energy dense, power supplied is subject to weather & events, Albo & Labor are all traitors and don’t work to help Australia or its people, they should be in jail cells not mansions, the enemy is in the lodge, along with WEF, WHO, UN, EU, Paris Accord, Climate and Net Zero BS. We need a whole new government, both major party’s are getting far too corrupt with WEF and Global Elites pulling at our purse, culture and lifestyle.
A mining oligarch's demand that defies every other Australian citizen's rights to affordable, safe and truly sustainable energy. Black energy, for the profit of an elite. Refuse to be farmed.
I have suggested for decades and positively ,openly encouraged Nu clear power for Australia,the response I get is similar to suggesting they try Carnivore .
Simple gas coal and nuclear but no Bowen in the mix
Is Bowen listening to this guy , could learn something ,,, hehe but wont cause his is Labor , & is deaf dumb & blind , no wounder they don't want nuclear, just want us to keep paying higher bills
Yeah, he support the extension of coals now.
The CSIRO is regretfully politicised and will report what it thinks will appeal to Progressive Ideologues...
The Gencost has been prepared consistently for years, even during the time of the coalition. Hardly politicised. Renewables costs are dropping significantly whereas nuclear cost continue upwards.
@@peterking8564 I do not dispute that the "Gencost" has been produced for years - so put that to one side.
That does not mean that the results are not politicised.
The increases in nuclear costs are primarily 'regulatory driven' whether those are health and safety costs or the costs to overcome numerous regulatory hurdles including getting legislations changed.
Well paid off muppets
CSIRO has no real world credibility in this space, they don't know how to build major infrastructure or project manage on a large scale moreover, if they were financially sharp they wouldn't work for CSIRO. CSIRO has been horribly politicised - few want to work there.
Sadly you're correct. The CSIRO is about as unbiased as the ABC nowadays and that's being kind.
Thank you Sir for your expert analysis.
Great interview!!.
Please get this Gentleman back to give the Public the information imparted by the Experts in their field.
Thank you.
Compare Dr Adrian Paterson to Blackout Bowen. Intelligent vs knucklehead.
Not like he would be biased towards Nuclear do you think?
@@oldbloke204he'd be a lot more honest than the crap coming from the government sponsored CSIRO who'd say anything, to please the clown Bowen, to keep their funding!
@@oldbloke204 People with vast experience are always biased--unlike Blackout Bowen whose only experience with renewables is based on fantacy and politics.
@@jackfrost2146 So why don't they bring on people not biased towards Nuclear for a balanced view?
I won't be voting for it.
@@oldbloke204 And Labor's biases are? I'll give you a hint, we are the only modern economy not doing nuclear
One of the most intelligent reports I've seen and heard. Well done.
There you go and CSIRO is not in bed with Albanezy CSIRO is Politized
where do you think they get their funding from? Never bite the hand that feeds you.
The labor party. The party of road blocks to common sense. Vote 1 lnp for the right path for Australia.,
Nope. Vote minor freedom parties first. All of them above LNP. Preferential voting system
This guy is amazing. Met him on a plane recently.
We had nuclear power before we came to Australia, nothing wrong with it.. Oh that was 1970
You like this?
Medical research nuclear reactor operated in Sydney since 1958, Lucas Hts, still going.
@foxbatbent Nuclear, love it. Have a look at NS Savannah. Been on that as a kid . Nuclear is also safer than coal.
Try about 1956 at Lucas Heights in Sydney where residents are more than happy to live within sight of a nuclear reactor!
@@chuckmaddison2924 Sounds good. Not as scary as people have imagined. Maybe they watch too much Simpson with the 3 eye fish. 🤣
Dr Adi is the man 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Labor are flower power people
Very flaky
No, they are unicorn farts and fairy dust people 🙂
Gerbil power in little cages comes to mind.
I think pond slime would be a better description!
Follow the money the rich are making money out for renewables , otherwise they wouldn’t be living near coast
The private sector is nt queueing up to build nuclear. The mug taxpayer is on the hook for the lot.
Totally agree
Remember folks it's a fine line between governing and dictating.
You decide 🇦🇺 Australia.
Dictating
Dictating
i hve listened to this Dr before , very clever , knows his stuff❤ and best of all he made Dan Repacholi look uninformed and ignorant
Did you hear what he just said? $600 BILLION dollars is Labour Party’s costing plan too “initially”, just too set up renewables-*(WITHOUT), the cost too replace it all every 10-20yrs…….Which in turn will be about $300 Billion dollars “more” costs to the consumer every 20yrs in best scenario! LNP costing ,”even if it will initially cost the same as Labour’s renewable crap”, will last 80-100 years without needing replacing! I mean really; *(Do you really even have too think about which one is cheaper, and more sustainable, & cost effective in the long run)! Mmmmmmm……
Exactly mate. Most people don't even watch and listen to the clip, or they won't accept what someone like Adi is saying
you didnt factor in the 1 trillion plus for new power lines to get renewables to the grid
And they pay for themselves in 12 months how long does it take to pay a nuclear plant?
Renewables are 95 % recyclable.
@AndrewMitchell001 all those transmission lines at the old coal fired plant will have to be replaced in 15 20 yrs.
Howlong does it take to pay off a nuclear plant.
Eroupe had to back off all their plants last summer because their rivers and lakes were too hot for cooling the plants.
They are not high lighting these facts.
@@terryquarton2523 The carbon payback period is around 5-12 months, not the cost of the system being paid for.
Keeping all three, renewable, coal, and nuclear I think is smart.
And gas.
As the Chris Uhlmann report on net zero stated EIGHT HUNDRED years of coal in the ground in Victoria
@@buildmotosykletist1987 Gas is methane.
If you have the others you don't need a sometime producer. Solar and wind is ridiculous for an economy.
@@creditelectric : Nope. Check again. But how is that relevant ?
Does the Coalition need to gain control of the Senate in order that the bans be lifted?
Yep. Hence why it will never happen.
@EducationWillSetYouFree Wouldn't be too sure about that. People aren't stupid.
The states will be sure to throw a spanner in the works!
@@aclifford652 👍
The Boss in Canberra can overrule the States.
If Dutton has a majority in the Parliament, I believe he then has control of the Senate.....would like to be proven correct here?
This man is brilliant Aussies need listen
CHEAPEST does NOT equal best. Would Australia build the CHEAPEST bridge? The CHEAPEST Opera House? NO, we want the best. Nuclear is the best form of energy, a legacy nation building project for Australia.
This is what adults discussing Australia's future sounds like.
Anyone notice how solar is powered by a nuclear reaction of the sun. LOL 😂 just saying
What's wrong with just gas and Coal very cheap and very reliable.
We will need coal and gas no matter what the other decisions are.
Coal and nuclear are the best for netzero.
Net zzzero is a con job a scam and an ilusion Nuclear is the way to go !
Just coal
we are paying the price for coal through natural disasters like floods and bushfires. Is coal really cheap? Insurance prices are rising in Australia every year due to natural disasters. Think about the hidden costs of coal. Burning coal releases more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than other fossil fuels, which contributes to global warming , climate change and ill health.
@@BonitaLizzy 100%. I hear you. Just remember the fossil fuelers likely had sad upbringings and the damage is done. They don't even care about the environment for their future family.
@BonitaLizzy
Bahahahaha
That's Hilarious.
And before there was Coal Fired Stations and Natural Disasters Happened
What do you blame for them. 😂
If nuclear is so bad why is it being used for medical reasons? Just asking for a friend.
It's not bad, it's just expensive and time consuming to establish. Compared to renewables it's a snail in a race with a cheetah.
@keepitreal2902 : On average a nuclear plant costs $8B. The poles and wires for renewables will cost $1.5 TRILLION !
The average nuclear plant is built in 7 or 8 years. No renewable scheme has been completed in the last 15 years and none are expected before 2035 and that time frame is doubtful.
@buildmotosykletist1987 Your "facts" are fanciful. Lets us first dispense with your assertion that no renewable scheme has been completed in the last 15 years:
1. Wind Projects:
Silverton Wind Farm (NSW): Completed in 2019, with a capacity of 200 MW.
Mount Emerald Wind Farm (QLD): Delivered 180 MW in 2019.
Willogoleche Wind Farm (SA): Contributed 119 MW in 2019.
2. Solar Farms:
Darling Downs Solar Farm (QLD): A 110 MW large-scale solar project completed in 2019.
Daydream Solar Farm (QLD): A 150 MW project delivered in the same year.
Numurkah Solar Farm (VIC): A 100 MW solar farm that supports both local and industrial needs.
Australia has added over 27 utility-scale battery projects as of 2023, with a combined capacity exceeding 5 GW. This includes projects like the Hornsdale Power Reserve in South Australia, known for stabilizing the grid and supporting renewable integration.
Over 4 million Australian rooftops now feature solar panels, collectively contributing significant capacity and reducing reliance on the grid.
As for your claim about nuclear:
The typical build time and cost of nuclear reactors in Western countries vary significantly based on factors such as design, regulatory frameworks, and construction practices.
Build Time:
Construction times for new nuclear reactors in Western countries generally range from 5 to 10 years for standardized projects. However, the total time from project initiation to completion can extend to 10-15 years, considering planning, permitting, and licensing stages.
In cases of first-of-a-kind (FOAK) projects or where delays occur, such as in the U.S. and Europe, construction has taken 15+ years. For instance, Finland's Olkiluoto-3 reactor took 17 years from start to finish.
Costs:
The cost of building nuclear plants in Western countries is generally high, ranging from $6,000 to $12,000 per kilowatt (kW) of capacity. For example:
The UK’s Hinkley Point C is estimated at $25-30 billion AUD for 3.2 GW capacity.
The U.S. Vogtle plant's new reactors are costing approximately $30 billion USD for 2.2 GW capacity.
The overnight construction cost (excluding financing) of recent projects is about $7,000-10,000 per kW, but total costs often escalate due to delays and financing issues.
In short, you are wrong in every respect.
"No renewable scheme has been completed in the last 15 years"???
What are you talking about?
@@marklawler3633 He's a fact free zone
"It's just the vibe" is no longer enough for ordinary folks who can't afford this wind and solar pipe-dream. What's the difference between base-load power like nuclear and wind/solar? 1. We need China for all wind/solar, including battery storage - but we have all capabilities and skills to utilise nuclear technology for base-load power. 2. Base-load power stations can be positioned where the grid can already use them. Solar/Wind means destruction of native forests & wildlife, and no plan for recycling or replacement. Mitch, Australia.
Welcome to the 21st. Century, " black- out " B .
8:30 We most certainly CAN ignore the CSIRO report. It's nonsense.
I live overseas, my elecricity comes from a nuclear reactor 30km down the road. Dirt cheap electricity.
Most Australians are bed wetters .
How old is that reactor? More than 15 years? The capital costs have been paid down, so finally you get cheap power.
Thank you Dr Paterson, for giving a clear and precise set of details on why renewables alone cannot work, and why, a strong robust base load supply has to be developed. What a sharp contrast from the buffoons and uninformed wannabe grid designers who insist that we need renewables only. Your contributing dialogue is greatly appreciated. We need a balanced mix of energy supply sources, Dutton has clearly taken his time to research a complex topic that he is not expert on, and he has come up with a clever solution. Now, all we need to is get Albo, Bowen and Chalmers out of that mix.
Good interview with someone that is both knowledgeable and has done it.
REMOVE BOWEN.
Bring it on
I can't see the 50% renewables being sustainable, it will shift to predominantly baseload over time.
There is another important consideration with the two options. Labors energy plan not only costs 250 billion more, it only produces part time power. Sun has to be shining or wind blowing, or both. The nuclear power will provide 24/7 365 per year regardless of weather of time of day. So even if it cost more then labors plan, it's still the better option.
Unless there's a drought and they run out of water, which is increasingly likely thanks to climate change.
@@CraigHarvey climate change causes it to rain, haven't you been watching the floods on the telly?, climate change causes the droughts when the left needs it for its narratives.
@@CraigHarvey If we run out of water it will be because of ramping up the population which labor is also doing, and building no new water infrastructure......or housing for the that matter. You should stop worrying about climate change, it's all BS. The future under lefty woke rule is one of increased homelessness, poverty, frequent blackouts, power restrictions, high prices, and yeah, probably run out of water too.
@@CraigHarvey That is a false claim
@@shanecollie5177 what's false, that nuclear power plants us millions of litres of water a day or that Australia, the driest inhabited continent experiences droughts?
Ahh yes we can buy nuclear energy for the 10-20 million new "Australians" from India that will be living in the country by that time.
Vote for the "Australia first" candidates.
Bro, gotta say, your dedication to your dislike of India and Indian people is unparalleled 🥤🍿 Don’t think I’ve ever seen someone turn their hatred towards a specific country into a fcking hobby 😂
And what a great country it will be (without the nuclear aspect, of course).
@@EducationWillSetYouFreeYes my sons will herd many goats and be free of education
@@EducationWillSetYouFree If Indians were capable of building or maintaining a "great country" they'd be able to do it in India. It will not be great, it will be miserable.
At last some common sense!
Refreshing reality!😊
Thank you for explaining something so complex in an easy to understand way. This should be our future make Australia Great Again.
Great comprehensive and unbiased report from a leading world expert - contradicts Bowen and his labour colleagues constant false messaging to the Australian public - Appalling!!
Just replace existing coal with new modern coal, that was the original plan and still the obvious choice.
I would rather sink my Tax money into a future with Nuclear, which has been proven and refined so much rather than an inconsistent Renewables. The renewable energy infrastructure just isnt good enough and technology itself isnt good enough to keep up with everything nowadays
Where I live in the US nuclear will never be built (never say never) because many in the MSM say its dangerous and wind and solar is much safer. But the point is electric demand is growing and the ban on nuclear will be something our politicians will come to regret down the road. Germany is thinking about the end to nuclear in the next few years, not sure if they are really going to do it, even though many plants are in the stages of shutdown.
With our enormous uranium stocks its unbelievable that we're still having this debate.
Instead of burning coal we should be selling it - we have very high quality coal and its worth enough to significantly offset the cost of introducing nuclear.
We need nuclear anyway, to build civil nuclear industries, to provide the right manufacturing and education base needed to have nuclear powered subs.
Plus it doesn't have the issues with synchronisation and inertia that renewables have, and doesn't need an expensive fragile grid to support it.
Plus we can power pumped hydro off-peak, which means we need to burn less gas for ramping purposes.
Brilliant - and makes so much sense!
Bowen hates us
If private industry was responsible for building out of nuclear, it would be done in half the time and half the cost.
Excelent news. Lets get going.
The thing with solar power is this.
ALREADY too much solar power is generated at peak solar to the extent that people are being CHARGED for the power they put onto the grid. If even more solar panels are installed the distribution system could collapse.
I see no one talking about the management and storage of excess solar power.
Great interview why can't we get him and bowen on your show to have a debate i think all ausies would love to see it happen this person knows his stuff 😊
Ignorant but a brave man to go on sky Australia as an expert host when Alan Jones was sky's example of yesterday's expert host
Ouch! 😂
You cross dressers are ramping up your propaganda
Must be an election looming😂😂😂
If nuclear is so wonderful and financially viable, allow private enterprise to build them, don’t use public money. I bet if you did this, no private money would come forward to do it.
An Opal research reactor is not seen as a threat to the rest but larger U235 reactor have plutonium as a biproduct that can be used to produce Nuclear weapons. This makes Australia a Nuclear power and an automatic target in any conflict even if is only against any our of or allies.
Adi has forgotten more than Bowen will ever know
So Snowy 2.0 was budgeted for $2 billion and now up to $12 billion. So what will the nuclear reactor budgeted for $331 billion stretch to by 2040.
It will take some time for power prices to drop.
Radiation is forever, Dutton isn't.
Yes yes and please yes 👍
Mught as well find a bloke who says smoking doesn't cause lung cancer
Think of the high paying jobs great for the country!
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We won't be getting Meta and Google AI Data Centres anytime soon. Australia only has a tiny population (domestic demand) and submarine ocean cables would all require significant bandwidth upgrades.
The scale needed for power generation while a profit is made means it will cost more, the dust needs to settle over the estimated costs, I don't trust Duttons prediction & these enormous complex engineering projects always seem to run over budget with the so called adults in charge.
bowen would lose any debate about nuclear power generation with a garden slug!
There you have it, a LEFTY specialist endorses a grid with nuclear power for Australia
Spread the good news everyone that the market operators can do nuclear much ,much cheaper than renewables which have never worked anywhere and require huge taxpayers subsidies.
Here's hoping Dr Paterson is put in charge of building our 7 reactors or at the very least is heavily involved.
Its called synchronous generation. Once the generator is brought up to operating speed, it has a DC voltage applied to stator,,, this locks the electric fields to a 50hz cycle, critical for the grid. Windmills and solar panels disrupt this. An electric grid shouldn't really have these 2 types of very different electricity generation. Renewable source electricity is very poor quality,, similar to a petrol generator,,, the output fluctuates in voltage, sine wave and frequency.
But but but … the Teal MP Nuclear energy expert, Allegra Spender ( apt surname ! ) , disagrees ?
After reading and understanding the expert energy report over coffee …
It can't be any worse than the current shit show.
Nuclear Fusion will be the future. I hope this has been looked at.
Have that for lunch Labor& Green support
Gained some intelligence??!
Waynetowers5828, please don’t mention Greens, Labor and intelligence in the same sentence
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Yeh mate your not wrong sorry
That was very interesting!
Lol seriously, it's not a plan
$331 Billion??? Pull the other one. Cost in the strike activity and the 900 blokes watching the 100 blokes work the $500+ billion is probably a conservative estimate. Dutton is playing games just like SKY plays at being a "news" service.
Stop with the leftie talking points mate. The era of alarmist misinformation is over.
Double it.
you may have a point if the cfmeu were excluded along with any other recalcitrant union activity and actually employed people with skill and a desire to work and, bearing in mind the true cost of the current so called roll out of renewables which has not reached any achievable construction or financial milestones and probably never will.
Maybe make them non union sites it’s not a Labor party project
The Curtis Island gas plants were built without strikes.
And a didn't the LNP clean up the building industry when they were in last or did they just waste 100s of millions in a royal commission?
What about their 200 millions they wasted on building carpark oh that right for two hundred million they didn't build even one. Pure economic geniuses hey.
How many gigawatts does Lucas's heights put out zip zero.
Snowy 2.0 NBN 200 million dollar carparks zero?
By the time these reactors are built the transmission lines will need replacing the LNP don't tell you that.
What are you on about. Lucas heights isn’t for power generation.
@@paulveenings6861
Research reactor mate. Not electricity generation.
@@polarbear7255 sorry, should have been isn’t. Fat fingers again 🙂
Quasimodo predicted all this.
We now don't care how much nuclear costs...as long as Bowen is gone
Sky's Ian Kenny should be reminded that misleading the general 🇦🇺 Australian public is a very serious crime......
Nuclear Power Lobbyists
Everybody can see that
If this guys would be liable
if there is a cost blow out
They wouldn’t talk like that
You say cost blow out, what about renewable energy, blank check
😂. Ok mate 🙄
Is labor going to be personly responsible for the renewable cost blow outs that have already happening , No!
Are the CSIRO going to be held responsible if their numbers are wrong, doubtful
Costs blow out on mega projects get over it, its what the finished project is able to deliver.
We already 100% know what it cost to build a nuclear plant it's be done multiple times around the world over decade's .
We don't know how to build a intergrated renewable and storage grid its never been done befor, we are making it up as we go along.
We need to have a moratorium on this subject at the next election irs the ordinary people who will either suffer oo benifite from either the right or wrong outcome
According to data from the International Energy Agency (IEA) and International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA), seven countries - including Albania, Bhutan, Ethiopia, Iceland, Nepal, Paraguay, and the Democratic Republic of Congo - now rely entirely on renewable sources like geothermal, hydro, solar or wind power for their energy needs. The Dr needs to get his facts right.
The key there is hydro and geothermal. Australia doesn’t have that luxury.
@@paulveenings6861 we have hydro and pumped hydro.
@ yeah OK, a spit in the ocean.
@@paulveenings6861 you better look at the AEMO dashboard to see how much,
None of those countries do not use diesel. They all are far from just renewables. And, WOW, does Nepal have a LOT of diesel !
Think about the hidden costs of Nuclear.
Waste management and disposal
Nuclear power plants must account for the cost of managing and disposing of radioactive waste, which can remain dangerous for thousands of years. These costs are usually internalized by the utility that generates the power and passed on to the customer.
Decommissioning
The cost of decommissioning a nuclear power plant can be around 9-15% of the initial capital cost.
External costs
Nuclear power plants can have external costs to society, such as the cost of dealing with a serious accident that's beyond the insurance limit.
Refurbishment
The cost of refurbishing a nuclear power plant should be included in the capital costs.
Or the transmission and firming required for renewable.. not to mention the enormous Carbon footprint of the manufacturing process. 😮
How do you decommission wind Turbines blades?😮
you havnt taken into account about wind and solar which will have to be replaced every 15 years , disposal and the spreading of poisens from toxic resens from the blades , look up iam plimer , look at facts , and the results are if you care about the enviroment you would never support wind and solar get informed
Mmmm ludicrous comment. Tell all the maintenance & replacement costs of solar & wind turbines. Tell all about the environmental damage to construct, install & dispose.
For the umpteenth time there is no wastage
Thanks to Orano's world-leading industrial-scale technologies, almost 96% of the spent fuel used in nuclear reactors for power generation or research purposes can be recycled.
Best you get a new Whinge. 😂
NGO'S = coalition. Perhaps?
The choice is simple really cheap reliable power and great way of life with nuclear or a life living in poverty with high energy bills and little or no electricity to power your home which is what labor the greens and the teals want
Another "expert". What happened to experts can't be trusted?
Like your expert commentary 😂😂😂
Trust NOBODY
@@tilapiadave3234You trusted the experts with the vaccine. What happened dave?
Do you know who this man is? 😆
This one is a Sky 'special' expert! 😂
Expert? 😂😂😂
I guess by your comment that you are an expert on nuclear energy 🤣🤣🤣
No. Not my field of expertise. But I have read plenty of papers published by people who are. And this clown paid by big uranium is not among them!
@@alanw8552 It's an expert at any comment someone makes just watch it run the mouth 🤣
Get on Sky news and tell Dr Adrian Paterson he's wrong.!! remember your educated and free😂😂
I suppose you think Bowen is an expert.
no matter if its owned by alien nations it will all ways be to out peril and expensive
Question, Adrian. Why did the South Africa government stop funding the development of the pebble bed modular reactor of which you were General Manager of Business Development Operations?
Was it because of no customers or investors?
You can't say "100% renewables" are only being done here and then say it will also be running with coal fire plants.
People will choose the cheaper option for power and in that scenario, no one will go nuclear.
;)
Really!!!! How can any power source which produces 20% for solar and 30% for wind of the time, be reliable snd cheap. Really!!!!
The cost of power in Germanyy for most of last week was Euro900/KwHr. Because cloud and NO wind for over a week. Please, please leave the religion on Net Zero to be a Sunday thought bubble.
Stop using "expert" when naming your guest...
Who voted you in as Boss ,, or do you think you are Almighty God?
@tilapiadave3234
Shut your finger....
👉 I'm the "expert".....
@@tilapiadave3234
Shut your piehole....
Go to your room....
Repent of your blasphemy...
Eschew your sodomy with men...
where does Sky drag these 'experts' from? 😂
Nuclear scientist, Phd in Engineering, 2012 Professional Engineer of the Year, ex chief executive officer of ANSTO.... If anyone is an expert it's this guy.
Eh nuclear is a dumb idea when we have unlimited coal
Even dumber when we have a billion years worth of sun and wind! 😂
@@EducationWillSetYouFree go back to sleep leftie
@@EducationWillSetYouFree But how do they capture the energy from the sun and the wind and then store it for later use (because it's part time), without making highly toxic and often unethically produced products? Tell us, we're waiting....
@@awc900 Research: green batteries
@@awc900 Deafening silence from our expert i am waiting also.
Finally commonsense. Where is the CSIRO on this issue?
these costings are a total joke, everyone know by 2050 these will cost over $1T and some
who's going to afford $1000 a week power bills??????????????????????
😂 You will be paying that with Renewables.The money to RENEW THEM has to come from somewhere. Lucky you the Taxpayers.
You are correct, if Labor stacks the projects with their mates in management and it is union built, be paying the CFMEU tax, or whatever they morph into
Labor are already suggesting a $7-$9 Trillion Dollars by 2060 on Replaceables and are hiding a half Trillion Dollars blowout already after 2.5 years in power, what else could possibly go wrong, yay.
Coal, gas & nuclear is king, everything renewables is expensive, unreliable, dangerous, energy and carbon intense, wipes out huge areas of wildlife, farmland and natural mountains and forests and would not be possible or considered without govt (our money) funding, is mostly unrecycleable, subject to damage from: storms, cyclones, hail, lightening, bushfires, wars and other things, is not reliable or energy dense, power supplied is subject to weather & events,
Albo & Labor are all traitors and don’t work to help Australia or its people, they should be in jail cells not mansions, the enemy is in the lodge, along with WEF, WHO, UN, EU, Paris Accord, Climate and Net Zero BS.
We need a whole new government, both major party’s are getting far too corrupt with WEF and Global Elites pulling at our purse, culture and lifestyle.
Making up figures again typical leftie
A mining oligarch's demand that defies every other Australian citizen's rights to affordable, safe and truly sustainable energy. Black energy, for the profit of an elite. Refuse to be farmed.
Another BS Sky expert with a conflict of interest.
LOL LOOOSERS.😂😂😂😂
I have suggested for decades and positively ,openly encouraged Nu clear power for Australia,the response I get is similar to suggesting they try Carnivore .
OK for coal to be exported but not for domestic use.
Coalition = look out. Perhaps?
Look out, we’ve got an expert
We got one
Blah blah blah independent blah blah blah.