Brother buys a Honda Fury. Wow!

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  • @markmullen9919
    @markmullen9919 3 роки тому +9

    That thing sounds awesome. And it's SUPER reliable!!!

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +2

      I think so too. It's a great bike! Should have a more comprehensive video coming out after the weather warms up. Thanks!

  • @cliffm1260
    @cliffm1260 3 роки тому +6

    I put 23000 miles on mine in the first 18 months I got it. Love it

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      Wow! What type of riding do you do with it mostly? How do you carry stuff on it? Thanks!

  • @kimhorton6109
    @kimhorton6109 2 роки тому +4

    I love that red. Killer looking bike.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  2 роки тому

      It's one beautiful machine. Still trying to get him to let me take it out for a day or two. Wahoo!

  • @Aimexpousa
    @Aimexpousa 3 роки тому +2

    Very nice bike! Congrats to your brother.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      Yes, thank you. He's put a few thousand miles on it last season. Loves it!

  • @fabieneldridge3414
    @fabieneldridge3414 Рік тому +1

    Wow, nice bike I’ve never been around one. My Son built up a 1980 cb900c 10speed for me to ride. A friend is about to paint it. My Son has brought everything back up. We put Mack headers, rebuilt carbs, brakes, front end shocks, stainless steel brake lines, tires, everything works , signal lights ect and recovered the seat. It’s should be very nice. It’s running like a champ. My Son is a mechanic. Even when he was little. I’m telling you I’m the luckiest dad , not only is he a great mechanic but father , Man ! I’m very Proud of my children. He is a Adult, County Commissioner, and as good a man as I know. G D works in mysterious ways. Ride on and Live Long ! Pray 🙏🇺🇸🏍

  • @tommeytommey2742
    @tommeytommey2742 3 роки тому +3

    Looks great and sounds even better! Reminds me of an old hd chopper i had in the 70s (it was an old beater then), springer front end and kickstart. I just figured out my bad back. Anyways, that's a nice ride.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      Right on. Do you have any pics of your old chopper. I love that kind of stuff! Thanks.

  • @nick61811
    @nick61811 3 роки тому +7

    I have the 2012 metallic blue, it rides like a dream, and turns heads everywhere I go, beautiful bike, it could use a more comfortable seat but hey it’s been my dream bike and I love it

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      Love these bikes. I remember the first time I saw them on the net...dang! They look great in Blue!

    • @guarro54
      @guarro54 Рік тому

      That was a good color. Wish they had two toned the blue they way they did some others. The current one is yellow I'm not sure I like it.

  • @ninjamania
    @ninjamania Рік тому +1

    Lots of great looking bikes in the background, too

  • @jonathanstout9920
    @jonathanstout9920 3 роки тому +8

    i got my 2014 Fury just 3 weeks ago. what an amazing bike.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +2

      My Brother got this one just over a month ago and loves it! I gotta tell ya, I am jealous, the bike is sweet! What color is yours?

  • @pressstartproductions796
    @pressstartproductions796 4 роки тому +4

    Looks good congrats! Just got mine as well about a month ago

  • @CactusJack252
    @CactusJack252 7 днів тому +1

    I've always liked these bikes. I just wish they made a bit more power from the factory. If something happened to my sportster I would still look into picking one of these up.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  7 днів тому

      I wouldn't let that HP number stop you on this one. Take one for a ride. Really a fun bike...I too thought of buying one. Wahoo!

  • @rogercollins3
    @rogercollins3 2 роки тому +2

    Someone took the baffles out of that Cobra exhaust!

  • @jhhd1
    @jhhd1 3 роки тому +3

    Gorgeous bike

  • @MauriceTarantulas
    @MauriceTarantulas 2 роки тому

    Super bike! Think my brothers days of riding bikes are over, will see. Well he used to ride a moped in Barcelona!

  • @ronaldroberts1992
    @ronaldroberts1992 3 роки тому +1

    Nice bikes the fury...I was stuck between which bike and went with the Raider. They are a sweet ride.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      Love that Yamaha Raider too! We looked at a few of those. Thinking the Raider had a substantial amount more horsepower and a much more aggressive look. Great bikes! Post some pics, I'd like to see it. Thanks!

    • @ronaldroberts1992
      @ronaldroberts1992 3 роки тому +1

      Will do

  • @k.1729
    @k.1729 3 роки тому

    Very nice bike !

  • @johnnycashbenham1192
    @johnnycashbenham1192 3 роки тому +2

    I was always fascinated with this bike ever since honda came out with it, I'd sat on one at my local dealership and was impressed with how comfortable it was, I wouldn't mind adding this bike with my shadow. Fantastic looking bike 👍

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      Couldn't agree more! The bike is a real thing of beauty. Can't go anywhere with him (my brother) without talking the crowd of people that usually form around this thing. The bike seems to ride well and does get slightly better fuel mileage than my 1100 Shadow. It being a Honda it should run forever without problem. What color Fury would you do it for you?

    • @johnnycashbenham1192
      @johnnycashbenham1192 3 роки тому +1

      @@forgottenmotorcycles that's awesome! I'd say I like the fury definitely in that metallic blue or that red your brother has, looks really sharp! 👌

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      @@johnnycashbenham1192 I'd love the blue one with the blue frame!

    • @johnnycashbenham1192
      @johnnycashbenham1192 3 роки тому +1

      @@forgottenmotorcycles I totally agree with you on that 👏

  • @shano81
    @shano81 3 роки тому +1

    great looking bike

  • @georgephillips1156
    @georgephillips1156 3 роки тому +1

    Had mine since last season started on the shadow 600 vlx love the classic looking bikes mines black and has the straight cobra speedsters I never realized how bad a 200 wide or more is on corners plus the low pipes it’s my daily though thinking about the swing arm and 240 tire mod

    • @georgephillips1156
      @georgephillips1156 3 роки тому +1

      I was like 10/11 when the fury came out as a bike I remember being like wtf and showing my father (always rides gold wings) he told me never to get one , never tell people not to do shit .

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      Personally, I love this bike. I too remember when they came out and was absolutely amazed by their great style coupled with unbeatable Honda engineering & reliability. Fabulous bike. Trying to get my brother to lend me his Fury for a several hundred mile ride. Would love to get to know this bike. Congratulations on yours. I bet it looks, runs and sounds great!

  • @DonDaJuann
    @DonDaJuann 3 роки тому +1

    My bike looks exactly the same as this one but I don't have a passenger seat. But same exhaust and everything man! And 2013!

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      I'd say you've got one sweet motorcycle :-) this one belongs to my brother. Must admit I am envious. They are wonderful bikes.

    • @DonDaJuann
      @DonDaJuann 3 роки тому +2

      @@forgottenmotorcycles they sure are! Got mine back in February and I absolutely love my bike!

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      @@DonDaJuann brother got mine 3 months ago. First two weeks put several thousand miles on it. Loves a bike. Wonderful machine :-)

  • @williamrobertson9639
    @williamrobertson9639 Рік тому +1

    I just love the fury

  • @miguelalvarez1155
    @miguelalvarez1155 3 роки тому +3

    I want this as my first motorcycle. All my brothers and cousins have harleys.

  • @andrewaldrich3602
    @andrewaldrich3602 3 роки тому +1

    Fort dodge? I’m in Cedar Rapids! I just got a fury at McGrath last week. Just waiting for some decent weather

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      You're going to love it! My brother put about four or five thousand on his last summer. We're going to put his fury on the maintenance rack Monday or Tuesday and get her ready for the season. What color is your Fury?

  • @71donkrider
    @71donkrider 2 роки тому +1

    Buddy got one they look good to me Ava of course it will e maintenance free

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  2 роки тому

      They are beautiful bikes. Always like riding with this one. I think he put 6000 miles on it this year. Wahoo!

  • @brianminkc
    @brianminkc 3 роки тому +1

    They actually did come very close to the sound of a Harley. I like this bike a lot. I think I would buy one but they are hard to find with low miles and in good shape in my price range.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      They did hit the nail on the head with both the sound and look on this one. Personally, Me thinks it to be one of the best looking factory choppers ever. Hoping to borrow this bike for a few hundred miles when the weather warms up. Thanks!

    • @brianminkc
      @brianminkc 3 роки тому

      @@forgottenmotorcycles The few that are for sale used are over priced. You can almost buy one brand new for what people are asking for 10 year old examples

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      @@brianminkc That is true. I think this red one, a 2013, was $6500. It's a great bike.

    • @brianminkc
      @brianminkc 3 роки тому +1

      @@forgottenmotorcycles yes that is consistent with what I am seeing.... a bit expensive considering a new one can be had for 9k.

    • @johnyaskoveakarpaccio4737
      @johnyaskoveakarpaccio4737 Рік тому

      they can keep the harley id take this anyyyyyyyyy day over any harley

  • @ragimundvonwallat8961
    @ragimundvonwallat8961 2 роки тому

    i dont even like chopper but this thing start to grow on me.

  • @victorortega2718
    @victorortega2718 3 роки тому +2

    Thing is sweet!

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, these Fury's look good in every color. Look extra sharp in red!

  • @evgenievs
    @evgenievs Рік тому +1

    F amazing sound. Someday I’ll have it

  • @poqjaq
    @poqjaq 3 роки тому

    That bike gonna run forever.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      He put a bunch of miles on her last year. Not too many yet this year.

  • @skippitydoodah7881
    @skippitydoodah7881 3 роки тому

    What about vibration at 80 and 90 miles an hour on the highway being extended front end it seems like it would lift and vibrate simmy

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +2

      Brother and I have rode a few thousand miles together this season. Many of those miles at those speeds. He has not mentioned anything about handling or vibration problems. Rather, he tells me the bike rides very well. I'll have to borrow the bike and see what I find. Good question, thanks.

  • @johnyaskoveakarpaccio4737
    @johnyaskoveakarpaccio4737 Рік тому +2

    hey what exhaust is that?=sounds freakin amazing bike is eye candy for sure!

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  Рік тому +1

      Think that has a Cobra exhaust on her. He's added some more to this bike, most notably, a King/Queen Corbin seat. Will try to get another video of this beauty soon. Wahoo!

    • @johnyaskoveakarpaccio4737
      @johnyaskoveakarpaccio4737 Рік тому +2

      @@forgottenmotorcycles hiya hey thanks for the fast rsvp! yea that sound man oh man i could listen to that all day! that bikes a keeper for sure!! yeah i was wondering which pipes they were!

  • @dannyboettger8482
    @dannyboettger8482 4 роки тому

    Honda Fury is red and identical to yours, but I have devils on the tank and back fender and blacked out cobras and breather is chrome

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  4 роки тому

      Sounds sweet! Post some pictures, would love to see it!

    • @dannyboettger8482
      @dannyboettger8482 4 роки тому

      Dont know how to post pictures otherwise I would

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  4 роки тому

      @@dannyboettger8482 Yes, I'm looking at this UA-cam system and can't figure out how to post pictures in comments. Dang!

  • @tylersample7286
    @tylersample7286 3 роки тому +1

    What exhaust does this bike have? Not stock is it?

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      Not stock. Cobra exhaust, I think. They really sound great. Love them.

  • @blackrockbrewing5141
    @blackrockbrewing5141 12 днів тому +2

    Love the bike, but 57hp out of 1300cc seems pretty low.

  • @gabeclemens1895
    @gabeclemens1895 3 роки тому +1

    Almost identical to the one do it with Dan had that’s crazy

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      I'm thinking that this one is bone stock. Very nice bike :)

    • @gabeclemens1895
      @gabeclemens1895 3 роки тому +1

      @@forgottenmotorcycles hell yeah it’s a nice bike

  • @peterroberts505
    @peterroberts505 4 роки тому +1

    Nice

  • @nanofamous
    @nanofamous Рік тому +1

    I’d get one if it had a bit more power. Might go with Victory 8ball or Highball instead.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  Рік тому +1

      Love all the Victory models myself. If you have not taken the Fury for a ride you should go take one for a spin. Great bike too. Wahoo!

    • @mar1video
      @mar1video Рік тому +2

      @@forgottenmotorcycles - Fury has plenty of power for any rider !

  • @Sam123QU29
    @Sam123QU29 2 роки тому +1

    Hell yes

  • @ethanburnett4164
    @ethanburnett4164 3 роки тому

    Wow!!

  • @JeffGillis1
    @JeffGillis1 2 роки тому

    Rake & trail? Down tube stretch ?”

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  2 роки тому

      I'm not sure. The bike is stock from Honda. So, whatever the factory sent out is what she is.

  • @ardalla535
    @ardalla535 3 роки тому +1

    I like how the radiator is practically invisible.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      They did a good job with that. We're gonna have this bike up on the lift getting her ready for the season next week. Wahoo!

    • @MechInvent
      @MechInvent 3 роки тому +1

      When I read "water cooled" on factory specs I was like yeah they wrote that wrong.

  • @troyrucker2659
    @troyrucker2659 4 роки тому +1

    Is the sitting and arm position comfortable?

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  4 роки тому +3

      Brother has rode this about 300-400 miles in the last week. Including a hundred miles today. We just headed in different directions about 15 minutes ago and he told me he was going to keep cruising. He tells me it's very comfortable to ride down the open road. The bike is beautiful!

    • @pixelcat29
      @pixelcat29 4 роки тому +1

      Very comfortable ride & relaxed riding position!

    • @dannyboettger8482
      @dannyboettger8482 4 роки тому +1

      They are very comfortable for the driver. Wife says she feels like she is in gynecology seat on rear, lol

  • @leadsolo2751
    @leadsolo2751 Рік тому +1

    Alls good, except the speedo cluster

  • @jgrc73
    @jgrc73 3 роки тому

    People are buying these like crazy now. Is Honda ever right with timing? A great investment if you ask me, especially if you enjoy rolling on that sick bike. These will be made of unobtanium in ten years.

  • @timetostand6986
    @timetostand6986 3 роки тому

    Is this a good bike for a first time riding. I love the way it feels

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      She is a beauty. Hoping I can borrow her for a day or two next season. Love to take her on a long ride. What part of the world are you from? Thanks.

    • @timetostand6986
      @timetostand6986 3 роки тому +1

      @@forgottenmotorcycles im in California. I'm going for a class like end of March or so. I sat on a honda fury like 3 years I fell inlove with it. But I've never road a bike before. What do you suggest. I love that bike..

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      Kind of bike would depend on the kind of riding you're going to be doing. However, if you've never rode before a nifty and reliable bike might work well. I've always liked the Honda Rebel 300 & 500. These work good around town and can do longer rides too. Good type of bike to develop skills on. Let me know what you end up getting. Enjoy!

    • @timetostand6986
      @timetostand6986 3 роки тому

      @@forgottenmotorcycles I just want to cruise. Not into racing. Love to just take off ride to Colorado Vegas. But ya ill keep in touch. Thanks for getting back to me..Before you go. So you think this bike is to much for a first time rider

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      No, I do not think the Fury is too much for a first time rider. However, it does have some tricky low speed handling characteristics that you'd have to be aware of. This is due to the long wheelbase and the high amount of rake. Once the bike is moving it should actually be an easy bike to handle. And the engines incredible high torque means you should never kill it at a stoplight. They really are beautiful bikes.

  • @caballopalido
    @caballopalido 3 роки тому +1

    IT LOOKS GAY AND COOL AT THE SAME DAMN TIME

  • @CaptainNicBlake
    @CaptainNicBlake 2 роки тому

    Are they good for long day trips?

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  2 роки тому

      My brother and I have done several 400-500 mile days. Bike worked well. I'll attach a link to a video I did with a fellow that toured on his Honda Fury. He's an interesting person with great stories and bike. Let me know what you think. Thank you! ua-cam.com/video/IDn4mRHJ0zk/v-deo.html

    • @mar1video
      @mar1video Рік тому

      The factory seat sucks, but there are plenty affordable aftermarket replacements !

  • @ItalianMetalHED
    @ItalianMetalHED 3 роки тому

    the power cant be right, my 05 vtx1300 with carb puts out 75HP 100ft lbs.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      Have rode this bike and agree with you, it feels like more power. But all the info I've found list it as. Here is a link to some info. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Fury

  • @kennethm.pricejr.8921
    @kennethm.pricejr.8921 3 роки тому

    Beautiful looking air cooled engine; too bad they put a radiator on it!

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +1

      I think The owner's added a chrome radiator cover to that along with some other chrome bits here and there. It is a good looking bike.

    • @marvinmorgan5168
      @marvinmorgan5168 3 роки тому +2

      It’s not an air cooled engine , it’s liquid cool

  • @lonarbuckle9788
    @lonarbuckle9788 3 роки тому

    perfect bike for goat trails,,,when need to go off road,,,just saying,,

  • @ALGL6AH
    @ALGL6AH 3 місяці тому

    Hi 2024 افكر اشتري دباب محتار بين الشادو فانتوم وبين السكوت روبر

  • @royledford5673
    @royledford5673 2 роки тому +1

    needs a 6 speed

  • @jamesspencer9472
    @jamesspencer9472 3 роки тому

    I looked the 2020 Fury. I wanted a 2021 and no one had any idea if there would be a 2021. The dealer told me not to count on there being one. I set on it and it felt ok. But sadly it felt like a cheap copy of a Harley. I never bothered to test drive it because the dealer did not seem remoted enthusiastic to sell it. I mean he could not have care less if I bought a bike or not despite my great credit. So I bought a classic Harley chopper. Not knocking Honda. I have own more Hondas than most people will read my post and puke out some nonsense. But this is not a Harley.
    I think it would have been better if they gave it, it's own identity instead of making a cheep copy of a classic bike. I am sure it is a hell of a lot smoother than my bike. It is likely faster. But mine will turn more heads because it is the real deal. (Not hating on Hondas let me be clear about that.) Honda just needs to make an original chopper. They have the ability to do that.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      Love all motorcycles. The Fury is a beautiful bike that runs like a Honda. Harley makes great bikes that look fabulous! Where did you buy your bike? Thanks!

    • @jamesspencer9472
      @jamesspencer9472 3 роки тому +1

      @@forgottenmotorcycles Longhorn Harley Davidson.

    • @jlrutube1312
      @jlrutube1312 5 місяців тому

      I know this is a two year old video but I am going to respond to this anyway. It isn't really possible to make a chopper that doesn't look like a Harley to people. Because if you make a chopper that doesn't look like a Harley, people will say that it doesn't look like a chopper. That's because people have mainly just seen choppers made from Harley engines so that is what a chopper looks like to them. Whereas if you make a chopper that does look like a Harley, people like you will complain that it isn't an original looking chopper. You simply cannot win. And if you make a chopper that looks like an Indian, people will also say it looks like a Harley. Anyway, Harley isn't the "real deal" anyway because Indian was making V Twin motor years before Harley.... so one might say that Harley is just an Indian wannabe. Harley appears to have simply copied Indian's V Twin engine. The only reason I point that out is because of your statement that Harley "is the Real deal". What a silly misinformed statement. Indian came first and also produced the first V Twin and therefore Harley is not the "real deal". I also know that Indian eventually went out of business and then later started back up. Big deal. That doesn't change the fact that Harley is the original Indian wannabe.

  • @714thegooch
    @714thegooch 3 роки тому

    Didn't even show it to us.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      This was the day he pick up the Fury. Will be making a more complete set of videos when the weather warms up...stay tuned! Thanks.

  • @GBMatthew07
    @GBMatthew07 3 роки тому +1

    How the hell did they get such poor power out of such a big engine, almost as bad as a Harley.

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      I'm thinking a HD puts out a bit more HP per inch. Loads of torque though. The bike is not racer but runs great down the road.

    • @GBMatthew07
      @GBMatthew07 3 роки тому

      @@forgottenmotorcycles Harley are just as bad crazy size engines with pathetic bhp but obviously torque low down. I'm well aware that it's not a racer but, you'd expect at least 70 to 80 bhp out of a 1300 engine.

  • @monkusbee
    @monkusbee 11 місяців тому +1

    Klunky rear fender

  • @fredscott413
    @fredscott413 3 роки тому +1

    its like a woman in a red dress.

  • @Axl_colts
    @Axl_colts 3 роки тому

    Cool looking bike but way too much plastic.

  • @yamanator10
    @yamanator10 3 роки тому

    Those power numbers are an absolute joke! Cross this off the list. My mt09 is a 848cc triple. It makes 120-125 hp at wheel after a couple upgrades and 80-90ftlbs torque right off the line

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +2

      Yes, MT 109 does make the big horsepower. Torque is close. Fury is not a racer. I drove a Honda Rune last week with incredible torque and smooth as silk too.

    • @yamanator10
      @yamanator10 3 роки тому

      @@forgottenmotorcycles well speaking strictly of big vtwins, this is the power of a damn 650 single. Look at ktm 1290. It's hp and torque both into double digits. I believe 180hp

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому +2

      Beauty & value of a motorcycle to most isn't directly related to its hp. If it were we'd all be riding Ninja H2's. Owner of this Fury has had many bikes over the years including Vmax, FZR, KZ1100 and many others. He looked at the MT109 but decided on the Fury in red. It's a beautiful bike and he's put thousands of miles on it already this year. Would like to see a picture of your MT 109 bet it looks fine. What you have for miles on it?

    • @forgottenmotorcycles
      @forgottenmotorcycles  3 роки тому

      So sorry, confused your MT 09 with the M109 cruiser. Love those Yami triples. Sweet bike. seriously, post pictures of it. Looks like a great ride.

    • @yamanator10
      @yamanator10 3 роки тому

      @@forgottenmotorcycles I have a channel. Just a couple videos. But my point is that with the weight and size of the motor there really is no excuse for tiny power.

  • @Shadrach666
    @Shadrach666 Рік тому +1

    Very Meh. They're not holding their value so well because they date quickly and they are not part of a broader range of similar bikes you can chop around a lot easily. Safe and smooth to ride for beginners to motorcycling though, and probably appeal to people who don't want the hassle of Harleys