writing a song like Invent Animate and ERRA | Thick Riff Thursday, Ep 11

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    0:00 - Intro
    1:13 - Initial idea
    3:19 - Scratch takes
    4:33 - Drums
    7:09 - Guitar tracking
    8:19 - Bass programming
    10:30 - More guitar tracking
    12:50 - Guitar editing
    13:24 - Production guitar
    16:30 - Post production
    16:44 - Final playthrough
    17:20 - Outro

КОМЕНТАРІ • 155

  • @burneraccounthandle
    @burneraccounthandle 11 місяців тому +91

    glad you saw my comment! killed it man, definitely got the right vibes. it would be sweet to hear this turned into a full song!

  • @2976nick
    @2976nick 5 місяців тому +47

    “not as easy as it seems” making an IA/ERRA song does NOT seem easy😭

  • @carazy123_
    @carazy123_ 11 місяців тому +13

    Bro just made the sickest TDP Thornhill riff

  • @fantasyh
    @fantasyh 11 місяців тому +42

    14:44 that clean tone is giving me major Vildhjarta vibes. Good stuff

    • @maxalaintwo3578
      @maxalaintwo3578 11 місяців тому +5

      Old Monuments type beat

    • @Toumaiii
      @Toumaiii 6 місяців тому +4

      fr i wanna see nick try to write some thall thatd be nuts

    • @danieldavidson5447
      @danieldavidson5447 3 місяці тому

      My thoughts exactly!!

    • @danieldavidson5447
      @danieldavidson5447 3 місяці тому

      Well I have news for you haha@@Toumaiii Check his latest thick riff thallsday!!

  • @benhagan
    @benhagan 11 місяців тому +52

    how about mixing tutorial...love these videos you make btw

    • @Dollyo98
      @Dollyo98 11 місяців тому +5

      I support this, the mixing and production is always on point

    • @StillWeyne
      @StillWeyne 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Dollyo98 Yup, would be awesome to see

    • @fetyandodio
      @fetyandodio 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah i see the virtual mix rack plug in on there😂

    • @radstachegaming
      @radstachegaming 5 місяців тому

      This

    • @metalaf5188
      @metalaf5188 29 днів тому

      Can’t give away all the secret sauce. Would be cool tho

  • @MylesHxC
    @MylesHxC 10 місяців тому +5

    That first riff sounds like if ERRA wrote the first riff in Monarch by Invent Animate

  • @The73rdSecret
    @The73rdSecret 11 місяців тому +6

    16:11 yeah that's definitely TesseracT-y ❤️

  • @KeyanHoushmandLive
    @KeyanHoushmandLive 11 місяців тому +5

    Sick stuff dude, love it

  • @johnny_b_dude
    @johnny_b_dude 11 місяців тому +47

    Bro, that's so sick, you gotta make it a full song someday. Totally nailed the in-yo-face vibe these bands portray :)

  • @hpaddict02
    @hpaddict02 11 місяців тому +23

    This could turn into a sweet series! I'd love to see some Spiritbox style riffs!

  • @thankyoumisterspell
    @thankyoumisterspell 11 місяців тому +10

    “What if I double this track and” give it to the next person
    For real though, love IA and you killed this. Well done

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks dude! I thought the same thing when I was editing 😂

  • @TylerSmithMusic1
    @TylerSmithMusic1 11 місяців тому +8

    You are a sick guitar player/song writer, but what really amazes me, is your ability to program so well and fluidly. I’m learning a lot from your channel, and using it to really push me in my own playing.

  • @colemandennis9103
    @colemandennis9103 11 місяців тому +1

    At the bass drop I could throw my chair through a fucking window.

  • @normannguitar
    @normannguitar 11 місяців тому +1

    what a fucking riff, really polaris-esque!

  • @carlprinston
    @carlprinston 11 місяців тому +5

    These are definitely the best part of my Thursdays

  • @stevenlinares6981
    @stevenlinares6981 11 місяців тому +8

    Sick bro and invent animate is sick af! Definitely need to deep dive them!

  • @juandiegomartinezcastro7942
    @juandiegomartinezcastro7942 3 місяці тому

    SICK riff! keep'em coming!

  • @joshkuhnmusic
    @joshkuhnmusic 11 місяців тому +3

    Dude how did you manage to make editing entertaining lmfao

  • @AlexeyArkhipenko
    @AlexeyArkhipenko 10 місяців тому

    This is cool man! Really love your content 🖤

  • @thisSimMarc
    @thisSimMarc 11 місяців тому +2

    That's soooooooooo clean brother, keep up the good work !!

  • @Enkelriktad123
    @Enkelriktad123 8 місяців тому +5

    The riff in Cloud Cascade is one of the best riffs i have ever heard

  • @DjentBeard
    @DjentBeard 11 місяців тому +1

    Loved this video, been writing more riffs like this lately and seeing other people do it really broadens the perspective

  • @MixReady
    @MixReady 11 місяців тому

    That's the jam!! Great job Nick. Another sick riff and it's great witching it all come together nicely.

  • @vandemented6418
    @vandemented6418 10 місяців тому

    two of my favorite bands. glad to hear you have a go at the style

  • @Kb07drummer
    @Kb07drummer 11 місяців тому +6

    First time on your channel and man you're talented af

  • @johncastrumstudio8623
    @johncastrumstudio8623 Місяць тому

    Amazing video, thanks for sharing your knowledge🙏🔥

  • @RylanStrongman
    @RylanStrongman 11 місяців тому +8

    You should do some video lessons of some of these riffs for us nOoBs lol

  • @mylestheward
    @mylestheward 11 місяців тому +7

    I would kill for you to do some tutorials, these videos are so inspiring

  • @LimitlessPotential12
    @LimitlessPotential12 11 місяців тому +1

    MONSTER..Amazing work man..So inspiring

  • @RThomz
    @RThomz 11 місяців тому

    this was sick man, really enjoyed

  • @marcwilliamjames
    @marcwilliamjames 11 місяців тому +1

    I've said it before but these videos are absolute GOLD! So inspirational and informative for writing!

  • @gziggy
    @gziggy 9 місяців тому

    Really dig your videos! My bandmate and I have such a similar workflow, but man are you an infinite resource of riffs! Keep on killing it :)

  • @KirkWilson86
    @KirkWilson86 6 місяців тому

    IA and Erra are two of my absolute favorite bands and seeing you give it a go is always a pleasure to watch! Love your setup and gear!

  • @cauapaulon167
    @cauapaulon167 11 місяців тому +2

    My thursday is saved again by TFT, that turned amazing, Niiib, i loved the clean/ambient production part, that part was tasty!

  • @devendasmusic
    @devendasmusic 11 місяців тому

    I learn so much from these

  • @realMypholis
    @realMypholis 11 місяців тому +1

    Bro you gotta continue this one!!!

  • @currentlyvibing9916
    @currentlyvibing9916 11 місяців тому

    I definitely wanna use this way of writing as a blueprint to help me with my writing in the future

  • @iamgarrettlyons
    @iamgarrettlyons 5 місяців тому

    super sick broham

  • @reilyzs
    @reilyzs 11 місяців тому +3

    dude this is so nastyyyy.🔥🔥🔥

  • @alex.charles2
    @alex.charles2 11 місяців тому +2

    you coulda told me this was unreleased erra or IA and i would’ve believed you 😭

  • @drivabletoaster417
    @drivabletoaster417 11 місяців тому +1

    Outstanding video as always. Would be curious about delving into this mastering chain of yours… 👀

  • @johnnygotgrowls
    @johnnygotgrowls 11 місяців тому

    New to your channel and I’m all for this. So sick

  • @nicolasalves9193
    @nicolasalves9193 10 місяців тому

    Amanzing man! Loved the old school tesseract vibes😂

  • @snop6176
    @snop6176 11 місяців тому +1

    Well... That was sick AF

  • @HP-7
    @HP-7 11 місяців тому +2

    You gotta release an album with all the riffs called like "thick riffs from a Thursday" or something 😂id listen to that 24/7!

  • @ianhubbard3233
    @ianhubbard3233 2 місяці тому

    Ugh you gotta listen to currents! One of my absolute favorite bands at the moment

  • @itsJB0513
    @itsJB0513 11 місяців тому +2

    THHHHIIIIIIICCCCC

  • @Z32rbsouza
    @Z32rbsouza 11 місяців тому

    Earned a new subscriber

  • @steeleemedia9417
    @steeleemedia9417 9 місяців тому

    bro this goes hard as hell

  • @knizz16
    @knizz16 11 місяців тому

    dizzam this is Dope my dude!!!

  • @aleksitakalo1523
    @aleksitakalo1523 11 місяців тому

    This needs to be a full song! Also this sounds a lot like 'Soul Despair' a small band from portugal

  • @oskargotowski
    @oskargotowski 11 місяців тому

    Turned out to be perfect Architects impression haha

  • @offthecufff
    @offthecufff 3 місяці тому

    you won a subscribe because i didnt know there was a function in the midi functions to double the speed that easily hahahah

  • @x7scriptzzz172
    @x7scriptzzz172 10 місяців тому

    honestly comes off as more Spiritbox esque to me, however its still an absolute banger of a riff, you killed it man!

  • @brandonbergeron7560
    @brandonbergeron7560 4 місяці тому

    Sounds a lot like Wage War and Spiritbox! Awesome track Nick. This sh*t looks too easy for you 💪

  • @meekrob47
    @meekrob47 4 місяці тому

    I would think it’s not easy at all …but I’m all for this I love Erra

  • @bolillo5013
    @bolillo5013 11 місяців тому

    Cool

  • @StanDew
    @StanDew 11 місяців тому +1

    Roll dice to set the time signature, could be sick? Could be painful? Only one way to find out.

  • @twitchthepocket
    @twitchthepocket 11 місяців тому +2

    erra is my favorite band, so this is hype af ty

    • @antwan1131
      @antwan1131 11 місяців тому +3

      No Erra is MY favorite band

    • @twitchthepocket
      @twitchthepocket 11 місяців тому +1

      @@antwan1131 because u have a nice bike in your pfp i'll let this slide...

    • @antwan1131
      @antwan1131 11 місяців тому

      @@twitchthepocket good. let your friends and family know as well

    • @twitchthepocket
      @twitchthepocket 3 місяці тому

      ​@@antwan1131 your bike is not in your pfp anymore so sorry dude erra is actually only my favorite band and now we have to fight

    • @antwan1131
      @antwan1131 3 місяці тому

      @@twitchthepockethey. frick you guy. Those are fighting words

  • @Inextasie
    @Inextasie 3 місяці тому

    Excellent ! I'm curious if the fret wrap is doing anything ? I dont think so in this case but i can be wrong !

  • @quantum_dust_mp3
    @quantum_dust_mp3 11 місяців тому

    fckn sick bruh keep going

  • @dreameater9225
    @dreameater9225 11 місяців тому +1

    Would be cool to see you try to write something in the style of After The Burial too.

  • @AlDente92
    @AlDente92 11 місяців тому +1

    Bro this sh* makes me wanna swim 🤘🏼

  • @visionmauto
    @visionmauto 11 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely killer job on this! Do you think you'd ever do a Volumes-inspired project? Something around the VIA or Happier album styles?

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  11 місяців тому

      Thank you! I think I already rip off volumes enough as it is 😂

  • @jordanmullins4851
    @jordanmullins4851 11 місяців тому

    Can you do a rundown of what you use for your mastering chain and also how to save it as a preset? makes a huge difference.

  • @bodoms_demon4159
    @bodoms_demon4159 10 місяців тому

    Architects-core.

  • @hazielrendon3805
    @hazielrendon3805 11 місяців тому

    the panning 🤤

  • @ericjutsu8391
    @ericjutsu8391 8 місяців тому

    Definitely keep doing videos like this one. ALso, how do you like that Kiesel? How does it compare to other guitars in the price range?

  • @belcarra
    @belcarra 11 місяців тому +1

    Awesome track! I think if you're gonna work on this a little more the ambience should be much more prominent in the _second_ half, as a big part of that IA feel (and thall in general but that's not the point here) is the ambience filling in the blank space that the other instruments leave. IA themselves have talked a bit about just vibing to their own ambiences without any other instruments, so keep that in mind lol. Keep up the good work!

  • @mdalvise2119
    @mdalvise2119 9 місяців тому

    @16:29 ‘Anyways, let’s add some bass drops.’ 😂

  • @thefuse03101
    @thefuse03101 9 місяців тому

    This so sick dude! What snare do you have running for that kit? The room sound on it is perfect

  • @90sjordy
    @90sjordy 11 місяців тому +1

    A periphery style thicccc riff would goooooo hard 😎 next Thursday !?!?!?

  • @dandilling4738
    @dandilling4738 11 місяців тому

    Heaviness is stored in the TOAN. What do you think the heaviest riff in E standard (6 strings) is? Could be a fun challenge.

  • @Tabaluka777
    @Tabaluka777 11 місяців тому

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @stiman1
    @stiman1 11 місяців тому +1

    Can you show us your mastering chain at one point? I heard you mention a few times where you "turn on" your chain once you're mostly done with writing a riff and are about to listen to it back.

    • @guitarmichael
      @guitarmichael 8 місяців тому

      Can’t be sure, but probably a compressor doing about 3db of compression, some subtle EQ boosting of highs and lows, maybe a little saturation, and a limiter.

  • @kimjunelvelasco6807
    @kimjunelvelasco6807 11 місяців тому

    I heard low of wage war and doomsday of architects in your riff

  • @asre1503
    @asre1503 Місяць тому

    Not sure if y’all have listened to LAKEVIEW or not. But they’re metal country and they’re sick. Cody from Wage War helps write a lot of their stuff.

  • @krxno7969
    @krxno7969 11 місяців тому

    finally!

  • @jumbodumbo1472
    @jumbodumbo1472 10 місяців тому

    „My brain is rolling with too many ideas”
    My brain 0-0-0-1

  • @tylerfrakes1753
    @tylerfrakes1753 10 місяців тому +1

    YO!
    The riff is...
    乇乂丅尺卂 丅卄工匚匚

  • @DommoDommo
    @DommoDommo 10 місяців тому

    How do you make your vocal audio sound so good? Are you just plugged directly into the interface? Do you have plugins on it?

  • @amongtheruins
    @amongtheruins 8 місяців тому

    awsome riff! but are you using a 7-string? we cant really see what you are playing. cause i tried to understand this kind of playng but i cat understand s@@t.
    also i dont know uch abou these bands but i recently became awareof invent animate and i freakin love theis music, both older and newer stuff.
    i dont think i could ever play or even come up with some similar riff. awsome band and awsome video dude,.
    if you can show us what/how you play some stuff it would be even better.

  • @danieldavidson5447
    @danieldavidson5447 3 місяці тому

    14:45 thought I was listening to Traces by Vildhjarta for a second lol

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  3 місяці тому

      Just recently revisited that album for the first time in forever!

  • @TheMrcalamity
    @TheMrcalamity 11 місяців тому

    Cool video! What sample program are you using?

  • @MrMung22
    @MrMung22 6 місяців тому

    Hyyooooogeeee

  • @VincenzBarsanti
    @VincenzBarsanti 11 місяців тому

    Where did you get the bass drop and reverse cymbal samples?

  • @Noah-ct2me
    @Noah-ct2me 11 місяців тому +1

    You gotta finish hedwigs theme when you get a chance man

  • @brisbrg5179
    @brisbrg5179 11 місяців тому

    Oh boop

  • @Desss
    @Desss 11 місяців тому

    You should try doing a Loathe-inspired song!

  • @justevan877
    @justevan877 11 місяців тому

    Just a triple drop d# breakdown

  • @metalmoto3275
    @metalmoto3275 10 місяців тому

    what was that plug in you used for the bass drop samples?

  • @Ninequads93
    @Ninequads93 8 місяців тому

    Definitely sounds more Erra than Invent Animate

  • @KoziPlaysMoosic
    @KoziPlaysMoosic 10 місяців тому

    Where’d you get your mastering chain?

  • @hri7ik
    @hri7ik 11 місяців тому

    I totally loved the riff although it followed the doomsday riff formula.

  • @dommart4697
    @dommart4697 11 місяців тому

    kinda like old school architects

  • @AaandreSevenfold
    @AaandreSevenfold 11 місяців тому

    recording and mixing tutorials plsssssss

  • @NikWertMusic
    @NikWertMusic 10 місяців тому

    I know you mention what drum pad youre using once but can you remind me what youre using?

  • @dylanfigge5280
    @dylanfigge5280 10 місяців тому

    What if you swapped the clean lead over to the choppy variant instead of over the opening riff? 🤔

  • @awdlee
    @awdlee 10 місяців тому

    this is awesome, do some loathe and deftones type of stuff

  • @mitchywraps6373
    @mitchywraps6373 11 місяців тому

    How do you not have to deal with latency? Im always recording parts then dragging them into time..

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  11 місяців тому +1

      Omg I had this problem about a year ago and it nearly killed me. Not saying this is the only way to fix it but what I ended up having to do was wipe my entire computer and restore a back up. Not sure what the cause actually was. I remember trying SO many things to fix it though. Maybe try doing a fresh reinstall of Logic if you’ve already tried many other things? Good luck man 😅