The Engineers Who Died To Keep The Titanic's Lights On | Saving The Titanic | Timeline
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- The story of the engineers who worked tirelessly to keep the electric power running as the Titanic sank. Their selfless actions kept the lights on and the electric lifeboat winches operational to facilitate the survival of others.
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I did not expect this level of quality acting and writing for a documentary like this. Enjoyed watching this a lot.
A little over-dramatized, in my opinion, but still pretty good! :)
Im a norwegian sailor. I’ve sailed with some old engineers from The British Merchant fleet.
One of my apprentices once asked me what the purple bands in between the engineers gold band ranks was.
I told him thats in remembrance and respect to the engineers on The Titanic who all lost their life while on duty.
When my apprentice later talked with the engineer and mentioned he was proud to see he carried the distinctions to honor the engineers on The Titanic, the engineer teared up and hugged him and invited him down for a coffee in the engine room.
We guys up on deck, we make sure to pass the story on where the real heroes on a ship works…
God bless them all
And the winner of the "Didn't Happen of the Year Award" goes to.........
Middle of the night on the East Coast in the USA and a Norwegian sailor, and just being on the open seas is brave to me. My sister just met a Norwegian engineer, she adores, and also lives in Boston, a beautiful place with such history. Sleep well now, sailor, and be safe
Purple was reserved for royalty; the king awarded the purple to be worn by the Engineers. Of all the ship's executive staff, only the Engineers are allowed to wear purple out of gratitude for their outstanding commitment and duty with regards to Titanic.
Is this still worn today !the purple band? 2023
@@haroldalston3349 Yes, civilian marine engineers still wear purple stripes on their rank insignia. This distinguishes them from deck officers who have no colours other than black and gold. However contrary to the myth this was not implemented in respect of the heroism of Titanic engineers, more mundanely it was simply to indicate that engineers are not deck officers. However if any modern engineer personally wishes to consider the purple stripe as a mark of respect to the heroism of Titanic's engineers, then they're welcome to do so. The Titanic engineers _were_ heroes, and modern deck officers still wouldn't have a ship to command if it weren't for the engineers keeping everything running.
Very well done. I liked how they included the true story of the fire in the bunker/boiler room which many documentaries fail to mention. Also, I liked how they did not show what was happening on the bridge because this was about what was happening below deck with the engineers. This is their story.
DiCaprio asked for too much 💰 lol
*'Bunker fires' were a common issue on any large ship using 'Lignite' coal because of it's tendency to 'self-ignite' as carbon bonds with oxygen which stimulates inherent sulfur particulates to ignite as well*
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*The ideation that Titanic's hull was 'weakened' by low-temperature coal ignition is completely without merit since it would require temperatures in excess of 1200F to significantly impact the molecular consistency of the ship's iron hull and 'soft-coal' cannot yield temps. that high without the benefit of high-pressure oxygen being introduced deliberately under controlled circumstances*
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Well said
nice how they just copy paste a documentary made in 2011 and just uploaded it back to youtube...
no credits for this channel
*This Titanic film tells a side of the Titanic story that serves to broaden this tragedy toward new dimensions. Skillful, low-key acting by all, you're with the "below-decks" crew to the bitter end in what must have been a mix of looming horror and quiet acceptance of a fate even larger than the timeless sea. Brilliantly executed and acted.*
I agree! Itś a masterpiece! And it shows (in my opinion) that strict hierarchies didn 't do anything good to mankind!
It’s difficult to imagine how the last moments were for these men. Even more so when you realize there was really no way out, praying they’re resting in peace. At least they may know that with this documentary they are remembered.
Are you one of these religitard people. 🤔
@@beachcomber1able no but I know that some people find comfort in those words
@@hopeworld_2190 Lots more find relief in mind altering chemical substances. 😄
There was a baker who survived the entire time in the ice water with no injuries almost amazing
And yet even more when you realize that there really *was* a way out for them... But they chose not to use it...
That was amazing. I was always impressed the lights stayed on as long as they did, but I never knew that was because a group of men sacrificed themselves to make it happen. Great story, great video.
Me, neither. Gave me chills.
Heard the Olympus was the actual ship that sank
@@johnmontgomery4923 What? Both ships sank. Just a few decades apart. Olympus was substantially improved after Titanic sank. It had accidents earlier in its career too. But no, no conspiracy that Titanic didn't sink but Olympus did in it's place. That what you're saying?
@@jonny-b4954 The Titanic was the Olympus. Olympus was the Titanic. The crack in the Titanic was in the same place where the Olympus was run into. Already making it weak. The undersea video picture by the research shows where the name Titanic has gone clearly showed MPUS. Titanic had the wreak and when it went to drydock everything from one ship moved to the other. Exact Copy to the last Bolt. It is suggested some high class knew or were notified and canceled. Already bankrupt, the last thing needed is a patched-up ship. The patchwork would have been clearly noticed on an Un-sinkable ship. Some Historian´s take.
@@jonny-b4954 Oympus never sank. In service until 1935. Used as a troop carrier.
Beside being a great documentary I wanted to praise the actors. They did a splendid work! 👏🏻👏🏻
some of those actors gave HOLLYWOOD CALIBER performances!!! especially the gentleman playing Barrett. WOW!!!
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The Titannic was a tragic story for everyone on board and their families.... but this is the first time I have heard told the story of the engineers, fireman and boilermen on board that doomed ship. This really was a brilliant documentary and did credit to those brave stoic men, their death toll says it all...
Agree
weird, ive got the memoirs of a colonel on board, and he states that most firemen were on deck.
@@wingsken So, your point is? In the video they told good group of them to go on deck as per drill, or did you watch a different video?
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One of my distant ancestral cousins died as a fireman on the Titanic; shoveling coal. One of the lower jobs on the ship but the integrity of a person can not be judged by their position. I have lived a while and have seen all sorts of people give it all unselfishly; an admiral human trait often drowned out by the negatives ones.
RIP
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admiral is a Navy rank.
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Great tribute to these men. Thank you for focusing on their honor and call to duty so others had a chance to save themselves, even if it was the slightest possibility. They don't make men like this anymore. Rest in peace.
No doubt! Could you imagine if this way today? People would be pushing the women/kids out of the way to save themselves, others would be trying to vlog/video everything, and others would be trying to get the perfect selfie to put on Instagram. We live in a different world today.
on cruise ships it does seem this way today(Costa Concordia etc.) but have some faith. Did you forget 9-11 and the service men and women who ran up the tower while all others were fleeing? Life is how you choose to see it. There is good all around if you stop watching the nightly news or allow oneself to be victim of the social media algos. Good luck.
@@jamie-r2034 exactly 💯 it shows how so much has changed. If it were today, I can't even imagine it.
@@jcd3869men are built differently. No way could you get women to sacrifice themselves like this to save others.
This wasn't a documentary, this was a masterpiece. Tenfold better than the film in my opinion. Unbelievable story. Wonderfully done Timeline.
Very well said
I've seen a lot of movies based on the titanic, including THE movie (which in all honesty is probably the worst when it comes to portraying actual history).
As for this flick? it was brilliant!! wonderfully acted, wonderfully directed, informative as it was still 20 percent documentary though at it's core still had heart. it had characters I truly rooted for, a story that I was engaged with, and even an ending (albeit sad) was still great. I absolutely loved this. most importantly, it told the story of the real heroes of the titanic. the unspoken, unsung and unseen heroes of that night.
@@joeyclemenza7339 At least this movie didn't end with the lead woman protagonist throwing the perfectly good and valuable and actively sought for _Heart of the Ocean_ Diamond overboard?!?! That one scene made me puke, women swoon across the world,.. and James Cameron a pot full of money!! I am kind of surprised that more people on board didn't think about pulling more of the wooden doors, walls, and furnishes apart and throwing them overboard so more people could do what our leading lady friend was able to do,... get out of the cold water!!! And is it *_really true_* that so called _lower classed people_ were locked below decks?!? I saw that in Cameron's movie,.. and that scene had never seemed credible to me at all,.. but was I wrong??! How was that not murder?!?
@@davidhunt7427 so from what I've been able to gather, it wasn't that they locked them below deck. It was that the ship was just so huge that the crew didn't have time or didn't really care to go downstairs and make sure every gate was unlocked. The ship sank like 2 1/2 hours after hitting the iceberg. But the crew didn't really understand that the ship was actually sinking until a good hour plus after impact. at that point, chaos started to break out and the people below deck were kinda forgot about as first class took all of their efforts and to make sure women and children were boarded first
Dang straight !! Amazing !!
As a former marine engineer of submarines and naval vessels, I know very well what it means to have to solve your own problems without help from elsewhere, this can be fire, leakage or worse. Without propulsion and power generation we are back in the middle Ages. This documentary gives a beautiful picture of the people who keep ships (and other imported things ashore like big power stations etc) running all over the world, then and now. They are usually the men who never come in the spotlights of publicity. But just do their jobs, beautifully displayed in the final scene in front of the Commission of Inquiry, whose sole aim is to clear their good name. Personally, this documentary appeals to me a lot more than the mega movie Titanic. But still, it was a nice movie..
Big respect to you for your service. I’m sure you have many tales to tell, god bless you🙏🏼
Really? you were an engineer of naval vessels?... can I ask a question? if so:
Q = Why do sea captains use plane trigonometry, and not spherical trigonometry when navigating the seas?
I would venture that we are STILL in the Middle Ages!
@@chrisgardiner2215 You clearly demonstrate that you have no idea what a Marine Engineer is.
@@Sharps777 I never said that I did. I don't understand your comment.
It made me beyond happy to see that Paddy made it out alive... like, seriously. I teared up a little. I've never seen a docu-flick with such great characters and storyteling. With a bigger budget, this could totally be an Oscar caliber film.
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YES!!! I mean Paddy... Thomas Dillon. 1:26:40. Not Barrett... everyone knows Barrett survives the wreck from the very beginning of the film. He's the first character we see before it flashes back.
@@d-string2614 Who played Barrett, not Paddy.
I think there'd be less standing around staring into the distance and more shouting and a sense of urgency!
BTW, he was called Paddy because his middle name was Patrick.
Im interested in why they added him in.. Quite a few times they were saying it wasnt the Olympic. A man by that name said that the Olympic and Titanic were switched. Their adding him is them nodding to the theory that White Star Line pulled one of the greatest insurance frauds in history.. I personally believe it. But its something that cant be proven. Considering The Californian had left port very suddenly with coats and blankets and little else on board actually just adds to the "it could have happened" bit. Either way, Californian was close enough that she should have been able to help save most if not all of Titanic's passengers. The entire situation was a waste of life. And Paddy was the whistleblower if it was true.
yeah
Thank you for a movie with a perspective from the working "lower class". The world needs to know the full story from all perspectives, not just the fancy pants and dresses on deck. Very well done. To the men below deck and those who humbled themselves, you will always be heroes, dead or alive. 🙏👍
Bravo sir well said.
I have read all the books but never have I seen a better portrayal. The movies and shows always make it seem like this immediate mad dash of uncontrollable flooding.
This accurately captures the slow dread and heroism of those first couple hours as men tried there best to be honorable, brave and keep the girl afloat for as long as they could
These men were the true unsung heroes of the Titanic. May their souls rest in peace.
Men who sacrificed their lifes to save many others, true heroes....
¡Indeed!
It's a little late for that, don't you think? They were put to rest in 1912.
@@jessicaschultz586 Heroes of the Titanic? That's news to me. Heroes save lives. None were saved except by a few lifeboats.
@@kentduryea1741 Chronos time = peRcePtiOn based.... "not real".... 🙈🙉🙊 (Now + Now - Now = Now)
As a former Boatswain's Mate, who served with pride aboard an old Destroyer with Boilers, I knew almost all of the guys in the holes, and I'd expect nothing less from the likes of those Snipes, or ANY others! GREAT men, Great Honor! I think Engineers are a whole different cut above the rest!
Without the stokers , nothing happened . The Captain always knew this . Best cabins , best food , the best of everything .
I've been a DDG Engineer for 9yrs now ,I appreciate the recognition especially since people don't understand what we have to do on the daily or in the case of a casualty
As a former boatswain’s mate I fondly recall seeing sweaty engineers coming topside to the catwalks to blink in the daylight, smoke a cigarette and then scurry back below.
Agreed.
I'm happy that you fine people told the time to make this documentary for what has been a swept under the rug story of a widely spoken tragedy. Thank you this high quality video about these unsung heroes.
3rd Class Irish Immigrants Locked In (Murder), I have The documentary.
@@MegaTrueTalk Proof or you just full of the brown stuff? Third class were not just Irish
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My late father was always interested in the TITANIC. Was extremely disappointed in the James Cameron film... this one would've REALLY appealled to him. Wish he could've seen it
@@sarahc3295 try watching a Night to remember. It's far better than Cameron film. Cameron was sued by the murdoch family for maligning their relative in the film. All he paid them was £5000.00
In Cameron's '97 Titanic movie, the scenes that fascinated me the most were those of the engineering crews and firemen running things or responding during the sinking. What especially caught my interest was the scene of electricians forcing breakers closed until the last moment when power completely failed. I wanted to know more about their side of the story. This docudrama helped satisfy that. Thank you! Also: TIL that Titanic had a coal fire in one of her bunkers. I'd never heard that before.
Too bad they couldn't rig up steam ...and pressurize...then force the water back out the cracks..
I know there has been many terrible accidents at Sea and I have been over the Titanic story many times but.. it always fills me with dread each time and this version from the engineers is no different. Just terrifying stuff. Great acting. Well done gents.
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There were a lot of heroes on the Titanic and I’m so happy that this side of the story has finally been told. RIP to all who lost their lives that morning✝️
I was a female marine engineer.I rose to chief engineer on a vlcc.I spent nearly 50 years in service.I can only imagine the integrity attention to duty anf empathy to others that those few demonstated.They new that they were not going to survive,but they stayedat thier posts.I am glad that thier story has been told.Laurajane Mildon-Clews
With the greatest respect Laura I do not wish to take anything away from those brave lads who kept the lights on . Also I do not wish to say anything to denigrate Wallace Hartley and his fellow musicians who played on deck to " sooth the passengers nerves ". But lets be honest, what else were they to do ?? I consider those with specific duties were the lucky ones. They knew exactly where they should be at this tragic time but what about everyone else ? i'm afraid there is one very well documented crew member who did exactly what i would have done. One of the ships bakers gave up his place in a lifeboat for 1 extra woman who would survive. He then went down below got a bottle of Whisky and drank the lot!! He is my hero of the Titanic and he DID survive the cold- probably because of the Whisky..
@@scabbycatcat4202 That is a slant that i had not thought of.Perhaps it is the fact that i was a chief engineer and really felt a kinship with them.Most of us are at the bottom of the ship.I dont think anyone was less brave or couragous,i just think we all show it in different ways.Thank you for pointing that out to me,Laurajane
@@scabbycatcat4202 I agree with this. They couldn't board the life boats so what were they supposed to do other than what they were told.
What does vlcc stand for? Also, much appreciation for your years of service sister
@@theshermantanker7043 I believe VLCC stands for Very Large Crude Carriers (oil) I could be wrong though
Excellent documentary! This part of the story is so often neglected and yet is so important. I remember reading about the tragedy as a boy and thinking about these men, so far down toiling in the innermost parts of the ship...a chill would of course go down my spine. Yet little was ever really said about them and the heroic efforts they made in the final hours the Titanic was afloat. They did save many lives. Unfortunately they were doomed like so many more that night.
What is NEGLECTED is the ******* truth.
Even Ligholler said before he died; "I was haunted every single day of my life by all the women and children...especially all those in 3rd class who died as they were restrained until it was too late to save over half of them."
And what many here don't realize, Captain Smith- the **** that he was- was incompetent and was the cause of the collision with HMS Hawke. That collision almost busted White Star financially as he was ruled to be at fault, but the key fact- because of that collision White Star took the propeller shaft from Titanic to repair Olympic thus caused the maiden voyage of Titanic to be delayed almost a month.
Smith was born to sink the Titanic and although some of the crew performed heroically- others were either incompetent or at the very least- guilty of manslaughter.
@@NYCYankInTexas What about all the POOR ANIMALS WHO DROWNED. Nobody gives a toss about them.
These heroes absolutely deserve to be honored much more.
they deserve something
@@andypandy7769 "Politics"
110 years coming up in 8 days and this still breaks me down to a scared child. I know this dramatized but the feelings these men had to be going through. The fears to overcome. I couldn't imagine the pressure and stress.
I always think of how cold it had to have been and how helpless everyone was to the power of the sea.
Not only the fear but the courage and integrity to face it anyway knowing they were giving other people a chance to live.
My Great-Great-Grandfather, and Great-Great-Uncle were both Firemen onboard Titanic. My Grandfather, William Mintram, died, my Uncle, Walter Hurst, survived on collapsible liferaft B.
Would love to hear more of your story. Their saying the 4th funnel was just to give her a look of more power and was otherwise useless is not true. It was ventilation for the boiler room.
These men deserve a Movie of their own.. Why tell a stupid love story,when the ship was interesting enough,and is full of true stories.Heroism and cowardice. R.I.P
💯👍 The real, unvarnished stories of Titanic's voyage and sinking and her actual passengers and crew are compelling enough on their own without the unnecessary embellishment of a fictitious, Hollywood love story. It's rather disrespectful to the memory of Titanic's real victims and survivors to imply their true story and lives aren't "dramatic" or "fascinating" enough on their own. RIP Titanic and all who sailed on her.
Because 🐂💩 makes money, truth only matters in documentaries...& even then it can be subjective depending on biases of the film maker...that being said, this very well made, feature length documentary is, in fact, their feature film, unfortunately, it'll never be as big as James Cameron's movie...
exactly. I love that movie for its visuals, and have watched the cut where jack and rose aren't in it almost at all because the fact they cut so many true stories for some fake randies always made me mad
Because the love story shown the story of many of the survivors
I Have To Agree Here, I Don’t Mind The Movie But I Do Feel Like It Could Of Included Some Other Stories Like The Workmen Keeping The Light’s On Till The Water Of The North Atlantic Got To Close.
Excellent film about a far lesser-known event involving the men stoking the boilers and the electrical engineers who kept the electric on for far longer humanly possible. I was always fascinated with Titanic's engine room and subsequent flooding of its compartments. Thank you for making a great film that captured the essence of this tragic story without repeating the other well documented events that we all know so well.
I knew the lights remained on until virtually the very end, and I was puzzled by that. The Titanic broke in two and that's when the electrical systems completely shut down, and it sank very quickly after that. The assumption, proven correct, was that there were engineers and firemen keeping everything going. None of the engineering officers survived, but thankfully some of the boilermen did.
The lights stayed on because they were run by a generator requiring no engineers presence. If/when that failed a back up battery would automatically take over (with a small break/flicker in the light's operation - as was reported by many of the survivors).
The engineers and firemen were evacuated well before sinking. Working the boilers became utterly pointless long before the ship sank and so they'd stopped and the senior engineers ordered the firemen and engineers up top. Only a couple survived, but they were extremely clear about that. This did not fit the wanted narrative (as mentioned in this film they wanted heroes, even if they had to just invent stuff), but they never wavered in saying they'd been told to evacuate. Most did die anyway, but as there were not even enough lifeboat spaces for all of the passengers, even if they had been filled properly - it's no surprise the staff were not given priority for the boats.
These were practical working men, who would not have stayed there when it was pointless and they weren't even getting paid. Their first duty was to their family and they would have wanted to try to save their own lives, and be there to provide for their families.
@@mortisrat Your whole narrative is proven false by the fact that the Titanic (like all ships of that time) did not have batteries.
@@karlp8484 The british investigation into the sinking has transcripts that definitely make clear that the engineers and firemen were evacuated. The narrative that they stayed was nonsense, but a lot nicer for people to believe. It steered the conversation away from 'all those men died because there were not enough lifeboats and there was no plan in place because it would have cost money and looked 'untidy'' and to 'those brave, wonderful men' - which was better for the company and the authorities who'd let it be legal to have so few lifeboats and to send them out nearly empty. The families could think their man died being brave and as a hero - and not simply terrified and because they had no choice. It's a better story, it just does not appear to be true based on what the only survivors actually said, and what they actually said is a matter of public record.
OK, backup generators, not batteries. Still not 'my narrative' - it's still what those men said.
@@mortisrat Titanic's emergency power system required steam pressure to operate. The ship did not have a battery system.
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The story of the Titanic has been told many times over. This is the first time I've seen a documentary about the crew below decks who tried to save the ship.
Superbly well made
One of the things that amazes me the most about this tragedy is how most people considered as "heroes of the titanic" were actually people who got to evacuate and survive in the boats instead of this guys who were the actual real heroes. Few people can come close to their bravery.
They were not really like "brave" as we know now. it was 1912. People weren't custom to go against orders from your superior.
Agree. Such as the priest who was offered a seat in a lifeboat but chose to stay on the ship to hear confessions and help people feel better in their last hour or two. There are lots of stories of absolute bravery, such as women refusing to leave their husbands or older people giving up their lifeboat seats for the younger generation as they had more years to live than them. It does seem a bit uncomfortable that survivors who muscled their way on to boats were signing autographs when they got to NY and were seen as surviving heroes instead.
@@angelkotilainenmy great grandfather Albert Horswill survived the wreck of the RMS Titanic. He was a crewman that was uncovering lifeboats on the Starboard side of the ship. The starboard side evacuation was run by Officer Murdoch, a great mariner. Cutter lifeboat was an emergency lifeboat that was swung out over the side for man overboard situations, it held 40 instead of 65 like the larger lifeboats. This lifeboat needed to be launched because it was impeding the larger boats. The problem was that at this time only 5 passengers were willing to board the lifeboat because many refused to believe the ship was in any kind of danger. Officer Murdoch wouldn’t lower it with only 5 occupants so at the last second he ordered seven nearby crewmen aboard the lifeboat, one of them being my great grandfather. Officer Murdoch was a hero because it was highly unlikely any of those 7 crewmen were getting off of the ship unless they were ordered off by a superior Officer.
@@angelkotilainena lot of them didn't even believe it was going to sink, and were told whomever got off would be back in the morning.. imagine that. And it's true.
This was early on of course.. and some did decide to just stay.. and you can imagine that was a big mistake later on...
These men were the real heroes of Titanic! Thank you for the upload, and keeping their actions and memories alive….
That final moment in the Titanic dry dock was the most heart wrenching. I remember I had this playing in the background when I was moving into my new apartment, and I had to stop everything I was doing and nearly cried when I saw that they had gone back to that drydock and put that little replica of the ship on the planks where it had been laid. Like a flower on the grave.
WOW !!!!!!!! Ive seen 20 movies about Titanic, I didn't stop a moment while watching it !! Im SOOO glad you showed us this part, and kept is SOOO personal. Im 70 and a vet , and I almost cried , Great work Timeline ! Ive worked my whole life in heavy construction and then 10 years as a tow truck operator , I felt like I was there !!
Thank you for your service, Tomas!
@@bekfast6691 Thank you
@@bekfast6691 A bit late, but Happy Veterans Day!
I thank you very much for your service!
My dad served, too, so I’m very familiar with the VA.
Hope you have a lovely holiday!
Love & Light from Miami Shores🦚
Stay safe mate🌎✌🏼
Peace & Prayers for the people of Ukraine🇺🇦
Who could ever resist Engr. Thomas Andrews' dedication for this lovely ship..He passionately designed it with hardwork and love but sadly it came out of it's fate,he was the one who designed it and the ship he designed has became the most famous ship that will ever be told til the end.. filled with grace and beauty in every corner,kudos to his fellow Engineers, Electricians bunkermen,boiler operators and the workers in the machine area of the titanic who worked to saved it til it's final fall,May they all find Peace 🕊️❤️
Wow, what a well-done piece. I am sitting in stunned silence, even after all of the Titanic books I have read, I am just amazed with this film. None of these stories have ever been told, and if they have, certainly not like this. RIP to these heroes and to all of the others who lost their lives that cold April night and thank you to the filmmakers for making these men come alive.
this deserves the big screen, thank you to those who produced this and for the memory of whom this story is about, heros
Imagine the pure pride working in that well oiled, brand new engine room. The smell of metal and grease, the weight of the power you are providing to a modern marvel, it must have been exciting.
Exhilarating to say the least
Sure, if you are not shoveling the coal whole day...
@@Hellsong89 it was very well payed.
@@Hellsong89 sometimes thats where your skilled trade starts off. Clearly you don't work construction or ever been an apprentice
at least till it started to flood. the ship itself was a technological marvel, all made before computers.
I am a merchant marine engineer and between the golden bars of my rank there is purple ... the purple of mourning in memory of the engineers of the Titanic
I was also a marine engineer officer, now retired. I believe the purple was already used by the Royal Navy. In 1865 it was decided that British naval engineers would wear a purple background to their gold braid of rank in order to distinguish them from other officers and that colour coding transferred to the British mercantile engineer officers when they started wearing uniforms. Although engineer officers aboard passenger ships wore uniforms the practice was not common aboard cargo ships prior to WWI and so purple was not usually seen. As more engineer officers wore uniforms the purple background became common and the myth associated with the Titanic developed.
Yes same colour as the Victoria Cross ribbon
@@julianmoore3091 No, the Victoria Cross ribbon is crimson. For Royal Navy receipients, the ribbon was originally dark blue, but after the Royal Air Force was formed, the dark blue was abolished in 1920 and all V.C.s had a crimson ribbbon. The Merchant Navy engineer braid has a purple trim.
A shame this isn't more popular. I've been watching Titanic stuff for years and this is my first time coming across it. I'd take this over Jack and Rose any day
Amen!!!
That's so cool they actually have the same hymn in the movie Titanic that the men are singing in this. I always loved that hymn. You also have to give a lot of credit to the guys who were in charge of communications. They stayed at their posts and tried to get a hold of somebody through the telegraph system until the ship basically went down with them still inside at their posts.
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"Eternal Father Strong to Save" is the universal hym song by all English speaking sailors. It is a beautiful Hym
Well Done !!! Inspiring, I am 74 and in my youth worked in circumstances of hierarchy and status. Tragedy brings out the best in people regardless of their be leafs!
Engineers are often unsung, and modest, heroes. Happens a lot during wartime also. My old power engineering lecturer, Mr Leal, repaired live circuits on RAF airfields whilst being bombed.
WW2?
That generation really produced some incredible men.
This was a masterpiece. The narration was just enough to set the stages and convey the timeline. The rest was fully conveyed through the acting and dialogue. ALL OF WHICH, were superb!! Such a sad story. Those men, EVEN THE ONES WHO SURVIVED, were heroes, INDEED. Thank you to everyone involved with telling this story. In my opinion, this was a far more compelling and tragic story than that of the top-side. God speed, men. You deserve to be recognized.
This was so enthralling that I felt like I was there with them. Probably the best dramatic reenactment I've ever seen.
Incredibly well done. This has shown me an entirely new perspective of the disaster. Absolute mad lads
Wow. This is quite a bit better than I was expecting. Good script, good actors and good production values. I'd say it's better than any other Titanic movie I've seen. And I'm a tough audience.
There is a Titanic Engineers Memorial in Southhampton, England. It has been there since 1914.
The souls that were still in the Titanic's engine room as the ship headed for the bottom did not all die of drowning. Many were crushed by the weight of the boilers, main engine, generators and other heavy machinery as it all ripped loose from their foundations on the way down.
There one in liverpool too, worth a see
That's sad & terrifying. Hopefully they went quick & painless.
the engines never ripped from their mounts because if you look at the wreck images they are still in place.
@@MyMustang72 some did, not all
Why would they be crushed? There is no logical relation between the water coming in en machines being ripped loose or even crushed.
This presentation pulled at so many emotions. This event, followed two years later by WWI, took the lives of incredibly strong spirits, too few the likes of which we see today. Despite the tragedy, I feel uplifted by reflecting on them. May God be resting all their souls.
Yes, this sinking and WWI was the end of the Edwardian age.
@@sifridbassoon What if none of them ever happened....the world would be such a different place. I love the Edwardian age. So much promise and spirit. Nothing was left in 1918.
What a pleasant surprise this turned out to be. Extremely well acted and directed
This came up in my suggested list a couple of months ago...I thought I had seen all the documentaries on Titanic I'd care to see. So glad I took a chance on it today. It's more of a short story than a documentary and the acting is impeccable. I love it! Fantastic work.
The heartbreak the Captain felt must have been immeasurable.
You can see it in Andrew's face when him and bell look into boiler room 6 I think and they see the water coming in and forcing the air up
It always amazed me that, despite being holed so comprehensively on one side, the Titanic sank perfectly level allowing all of her lifeboats to be useable. So many historic ships similarly damaged, rolled or capsized.The engineers likely were doing more than keeping the lights on - they had to be working to keep her trimmed as she settled.
Heroes.
Doing some research on Titanic lifeboat capacity= of 1178 people when full. Capacity on the maiden voyage was close to 3000 on the ship of passengers. A lifeboat could carry 70 people. One lifeboat had only 5 people in it when it was lowered(because no one believed it could sink, another only 22 in it. The bow of the boat started to dip down which means the lifeboats were not coming down so they could be filled with people. The collapsible lifeboats could not be opened properly because of the angle. The crew was not fully instructed on how to load the boats, so some became unhooked at one end and all the people dumped out. into the propellers (so spinning propeller came to the surface and chewed up the odd lifeboat). (There is about 6 different versions on the Titanic sinking, each with a different story angle. Some old black& white movies so closer to the event.
. "Social Standing" in society put you in different parts of the ship. Those with money, fame, fortune got to sail on the uppermost decks AND THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO THE LIFEBOATS FIRST -many did not believe the ship was sinking so refused to don on a lifejacket or get into a Lifeboat. They were so insolated from the ship (or drunk) that they did not feel the collision with the iceberg. So they went back to the party. The band played on. The ship COULD NOT SINK & they believed that. It had 11 decks(floors) There were 5 classes of passenger. First class, first & second class, third class, 4th class and 5th class. While 1,2,3 had access to a window, 4 & 5 were closer to the center of the ship, so no fresh air for the entire journey. None of the classes MIXED. 5th class is poor people who just could afford the boat ride. So, this class distinction was even amongst the crew. The guys shoveling the coal for the boilers never intermingled with the passengers. Only the captain and First Mate could do that. Communicating was through a hollow tube, so Captain could ask for more steam or stop the engines.
. The Lifeboats were electrically driven motors. No electricity means no life boats being lowered down.(something I did not know before this version of Titanic. The crew were not practiced, so "abandon ship" is not a practiced procedure. Women and children of first class first. This was at night as well.
. Many of the 4th & 5th class were locked into the bowels of the ship by a wire cage. There is no way for them to get out until the lock was unlocked by the Purser. It wasn't. They are still in the ship. These would mainly be Irish as the English treated them as second class people and there was that "coal shortage issue" so they were going to go to the U.S. and start life anew mining for coal in the U.S. Once a miner, always a miner.
. the sinking of the Titanic and loss of life is not the worst naval disaster. I believe it is the Wilhelm Gustloff, a German military
"transport ship" out of Germany with Polish & German refugees was torpedoed by a Soviet submarine cause the loss of 9400 lives near the end of WW2 in the Black Sea. Making it the worst.
. The Brits and the U.S. also sunk refugee ships (they are keeping quiet about it as "Top Secret fluck ups") The Poles and Germans that survived because they were on "other boats" know about this.
. It is about 6500 lives lost. The people don't know the name of the ships because they were not on them and spoke German or Polish(not English) so they forget...as they are in their 80's.
@@bunzeebear2973 Titanic's engines were stopped throughout the sinking, the screws were not turning, nobody was chopped to death, that happened when Britannic was sinking a few years later after striking a mine.
@@bunzeebear2973 the Wilhelm Gustloff was not torpedoed in the Black Sea. It was the Baltic.
@@Mat-threw yeah idk how a german ship would still be in the black sea near the end of the ww2. i immediately think he could be referring to the baltic. a lot of people confuses the two.
Paddy made it to lifeboat #4 by swimming for a long period of time while being drunk. In Paddy's testimony as he try to escape, he met 3 men sitting at a table and he described that these 3 men were dressed like they were at a dinner party and gave him the bottle of Brandy. Those 3 men must have been Benjamin Guggenheim, his valet Victor Giglio and his Chauffer Rene Pernot. Official surviving witness statements did say they only saw Giglio with Guggenheim when they decided to as Guggenheim quote "dressed in their best and prepared to go down as gentlemen". Pernot must have found the two and decided to join them for one last drink before accepting their fate. Like Charles Joughin, Paddy didn't feel the freezing temperature water until he passed out after entering the boat from exhaustion. The Quartermaster in charge of the boat, Walter Perkis found the empty bottle of Brandy in Paddy's pocket frustrated that he won't have any tossed the bottle overboard.
I didn't know that cool.
This was so very well done and stressful to watch, as most films on the Titanic are. I always have an intense yearning to go back in time and make it right. Always.
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Took my words right out of my mouth. Agreed. :(
Thank you for making this documentary. The story speaks highly of values and honour that these people had and they were so young! They are all heroes!
One of my favourite Titanic docs! I own it on DVD. It is really nice to see it available to a wider audience - Thanks!
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Wow. This was beautifully made. I didn’t intend to watch it, because everything Titanic related makes my heart hurt, for those that were lost. But I started to watch, just to see if it was something that would catch my attention. It did. This went above and beyond any Titanic tale I have ever seen. I was captivated, up until the very end. Brilliant!
I can't help but to imagine, after all of these years, what it must've been like to live on after your family member went down with the great ship. God bless all those lost on April 15th, 1912 with the Titanic.
Amen 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
110 years in 2 months time. May they rest in peace.
@@babangidanzegwu1476 I agree with you Babangida! 100%
*'God Blessed' all the people WHO DIED???* *WTF?*
( *Yeah...'Big G' is great at 'handing-out' 'Blessings' like the one He gave His Son* )
*'SUICIDE FOR YOU!* *Death by Torture' because some Bedouin Jew eating mushrooms somewhere wrote some frenzied prophecy a thousand-years before*
@@andypandy7769 *There were then and still are ice hazards in that region of the Atlantic and it's extremely rare to strike one and anything large enough to present a danger can be seen far in advance of actually being close to it*
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*Why ask rhetorical pointless questions of "Why live anywhere where there's ice and snow in the winter?*
*Why learn to walk when you might fall down?*
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*Smith was a 'Senior Captain'...not a 'Commodore' which means command over other ship's Captains in a group*
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*Why are you 'childishly obtuse?'*
This is the best Titanic Documentary I've ever seen. I love watching it time and time again.
This is a masterpiece of a documentary. All these years and there is still so much to tell about this ship.
Everyone who worked on this should be very proud. Top-notch acting.
I have been a Titanic history buff and enthusiast since i was 6 and i am 31! I have studied this amazing ship and it’s amazing and historic story from the design to the passengers to the crew and yes even to the men below in the engine rooms and boilers where Chief Bell and the black gang like Frederick Barrett! This film was a lovely and very beautiful display of portraying what it means to be selfless, to face death in the face and the inevitably of it when put in a disaster like the R.M.S. Titanic had on her maiden voyage when she met her unforgettable fate on April 15, 1912. These engineers, stokers, fireman, trimmers, greasers, engine crew and electricians, God bless every single on of the their souls for they really did their jobs to the last moment knowing that they might not survive. And many didn’t! It truly was the perfect storm from the start in terms of how many things happened between when Titanic left Belfast with that fire burning in the coal bunker to the near collision with the ship New York as she she departed the harbor of Southhampton. All the wireless ice warnings and so many other elements played such a huge part of the sinking, but i admire and truly respect all the men who worked in the bowels of the ship! Rest In Peace to all the died that horrific night, the passengers and the crew. Thank you for this post and thank you for keeping the memory and understanding of what this part of the sinking really means because many many people have no idea about the sacrifice and heroism that was displayed during one of the worst maritime disasters in history!
Everyone talks about the musicians but not the engineers who sacrificed their lives just to keep the lights for the passengers to see and avoid more deaths 🥲
Even James Cameron's Titanic movie depicts the Engineers sacrificing their lives to keep the power on.
@@Edax_Royeaux in a 6 second long scene
@@darklord7479 A lot of people died in that movie in 6 second scenes.
This is the most traumatic disaster in history still got me choked up even now..
Back in the 2010s I developed a unhealthy obsession with the titanic it had gotten so bad I would watch documentaries all day and night on it. In recent years I’ve been able to get past it but it will forever be a story close to my heart ❤️
The acting, the directing, what a cast and crew. Bravo.
Absolutely
Production elements, direction, story, and especially the acting... superb.
British and Irish, Best actors on the planet 👌
@@BurtonRdForever, it was an irish-german production, which in my opinion makes up for the Propaganda Movie. For which I as a german apologize.
Like being in TITANIC.
@@plokoon1912 As someone who has an M.A. in the Science of Modern History, I used to ask my professors how long Germany has to apologize for the sins committed by its grandfathers, fathers.
To which he replied, when do we forgive ourselves for taking over America, when do we forgive the atrocities committed by our own great great grandfathers?’
I LOVED him for that.
I’m not sure why you’re apologizing to anyone, and what for.
Just thought I’d share that tidbit that walked with me for years until I got an an answer.
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@@katherinea.williams3044, thank you very much, your Professor sound like an awsome guy.
And the same wishes go to you back from me
This was a truly amazing film about the brave men of the engineering department on board Titanic who through their dedication and bravery saved many, many lives. Gripping and very well made film.
I know that some of the crew didn't stay behind to help, but I understand why. They were scared, didn't want to be killed by water. One of the worst ways to die. I don't blame them one bit. But to the crew who did stay behind to keep the ship afloat, you're all heros.
This blew me away. Bravo, everyone involved on creating this recreation.
I saw this when it first aired, and have seen it several times since. I have to echo what others have written: well acted, compelling script, and keen editing. It is also missing those two insufferable characters in Cameron’s film, a definite plus. Sometimes my mind will drift to the time of Titanic’s breakup, and the ungodly terror for anyone still left in the engine room. It is almost impossible to imagine.
I liked the idea of a fictional survivor but the love story I didn't care about when I was 6 years old. To this day I liked the idea of using survivors stories and making a fictional person based on them. Rose or Jack alone could have worked. Roses story is something to relate to being born in the wrong class. She wanted freedom which was what woman wanted. She was going to be in a loveless marriage to keep her status which was a thing back then. Rose learning about life was a good idea learning to love a good idea. There is more than romance love. She could have learned from third class how to love life. Her mother learned there is more to life than class or status. She was equal to everyone in the lifeboats. That lesson obviously came too late for her mother but rose was young enough to change
Absolument d'accord avec vous : les 2 " insufferable characters" du film de Cameron font, hélas, sombrer son film dans ce que les Français appellent "roman pour gare", bluette sentimentale ridicule et longuette de surcroît...Bravo aux réalisateurs et acteurs de ce documentaire exceptionnel !
Agree, but Camerons’ version made him a multi-millionaire at box office. That’s Hollywood’s target for cinema 🎦 success.
The love story was unnecessary. It could have been done as just a married couple and had the same reaction. Instead an affair over a ship was meant to be heartbreaking.
So awesome how each & everyone on the Titanic all played & important role and how they shouldn’t ever be forgotten ! Thank you to these men who sacrificed their lives to help and to save many of the passengers!
There have been many Titanic films made, and though many are good they all take it from the same general perspective. It's fantastic that this was made, a whole new story almost. A real treat for Titanic aficionados.
I wish they would at sometime show what was going on on the carpathia (the ship that rescued survivors)...in the engine room the engines reached red (which means serious threat of fire or explosion) because they had it wide open trying to reach the titanic and the head engineer put his hat over the indicator so his men wouldn't see it and keep pushing
THAT would be an excellent film as well!!
I think a movie of the california's POV would also be interesting. They were in reach of assistence the whole 2h40m it took the ship to sink yet the cpt didnt assume the worse, dispite some of his senior staff's concerns. Wonder how this wasnt more scrutinized. I mean, they did nothing! And 1500 people met their deaths! Wtf hapened aboard the california???
@@ikki5806 The California repeatedly sent Titanic messages warning them, but a lot of messages were coming in real fast from other boats and the guy who took messages screamed at The California to stop messaging them because he couldn't think straight. After hearing that The California turned off communication. The California did everything right.
This was amazing! I love how it put such detail into their story, the untold stories of the men who really cared.
About bloody time a proper documentary was made regarding the engineering crew, and not just snippets or dramatic five second scenes for the sake of it. All that time and effort wasted on rehashing the same basic story, theories and conspiracies. They stood their post and people lived only because of that.
Yet, their efforts are largely unrecognized, and none of their names are even remembered?
So true, yet so sad…. At least they will always live with people like you and I who will always recognize their bravery, dedication and sacrifice!
Yes, they died to save a lot of people who saw them as second-class citizens.
I read the passenger list. There was a young lady who survived. She settled in my town. The house is long gone. She lived on Washington St. in Michigan City. Where the main post office sits today.
That was amazing. One of the best documentaries on Titanic I’ve ever seen.
To the crew of the Titanic that stayed with the ship till the end so that others were given a chance to live I SALUTE YOU......FINE BRAVE MEN.....
Wow that was amazing!! Most of the focus in the story of the Titanic is the passengers so it is good to hear about the crew!
In my opinion, this is better than James Cameron's film.
The selfless sacrifice made by those Brave men to save others, shows Human nature at its finest.
Ditto. My late father was extremely disappointed in the James Cameron film too. Wish he could've seen this one... this was the type of story he liked
But there was boobs in Cameron's movie.
James Cameron film told a different story, of course you'd prefer this if you don't like romance
Don't lie. Cameron's Titanic was one of the finest movie ever. It was literally a masterpiece. Well acted and directed.
@@MeMatu true we have different preferences by age, when I was younger I love Cameron movie, now I love this.
The story of Titanic captures all imaginations across generations. It is the height of glory and the definition of human tragedy.
This isn't just a documentary. It's also a great movie with quality acting. (I started to say "star-quality," but given some of today's "stars" that's not necessarily a compliment.)
One factor that wasn't mentioned was that after the Titanic hit the iceberg the captain actually started the ships engines again at 11:47 pm and the forward thrust ended up driving even more water into the ships compartments than they could pump out.
If I'm not mistaken, they did show it.
46:45
My father died when I was 5, but I’ve been told that his time in the Merchant Marines during WWII was spent in the boiler rooms of the ships he was aboard. He was a sleight man, but tougher than a $2 steak. I could never do it.
This was absolutely awesome. I've never heard the stories of these men before! Who cares what was happening up top - these are the real heroes.
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An amazing film showing the bravery of these men who saved many lives. They were truly heroes.
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One of the best Titanic movies I’ve watched! This is the first Titanic movie I’ve seen about the invisible people who worked below. Great to see from this perspective, excellent! Thank you for telling their story! 💓
This was powerful. Conviction of what’s in your heart to do what they did is truly unbelievable.
Thank you. It’s beautiful to learn their story, to me, this is the most interesting part of the disaster. Got me emotional. Rest in peace lads.
Full on movie feel from this! The acting was incredible about everything in this
As a retired marine engineer… truly enjoyed this documentary…. The black gang rarely are acknowledged but without a captain or mates we’d get the ship in but few of the glory hounds could do the same without us.
We always see what happened outside of the ship. It's so refreshing to see what happened inside the ship. R.I.P to all those affected by this tragedy.
Everyone who worked in the engine rooms and the boiler rooms on the tank top deck (the ship's lowest deck) are heroes. Their deaths were not in vain. And they will always be remembered.
I’ve watched this about 10 or so times over the past couple of years and it never gets old.
i saw it before somewhere. i was thinking about it a few days before it showed up in my feed. i guess the google spybots has figured out how to mindread.
Incredibly sad and inspirational. Bravery that I can't even comprehend.
This was absolutely INCREDIBLE! What an incredible documentary 👏 ❤️
God damn, what a docu-series.
Just wanted to point out that Alfred White, the greaser that wasordered to climb the 4th stack and report what he sees), actually survived.
He was 1 out of 4 engine greasers to survive.
Wonderful documentary and may the souls of those great people never be forgotten