The Aikido Problem, Training Methods Change Everything ft.
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- Here's a piece of the conversation with Jamie from Jamielovesmartialarts,
we talked about all kinds of stuff, but in this clip we tackled the problematic nature of training methodologies found in most aikido out there.
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Full Talk: ua-cam.com/users/live7ui87LWc... - Спорт
There's a missing clip in this video, I screwed up the editing, that's why a random laugh emoji appears mid video
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Good stuff
Thanks for sharing Guys!!!! Jamie keep up the good work bro!!!
The main advantage of sport is the continued full speed application. This is the advantage of wrestling in the United States, for instance where kids compete from youth all the way through middle school and high school.
All of that full speed training adds up to a very effective platform
Boxing is another example, however, Wrestling still has an advantage because it is every day after school during the season. Boxing is still when you want to go and then who else is there with
Intresting and good points, if aikido is trained for combat sports some of it is useful. Personally I found alot of difference in effective approach between old aikido and ki aikido. My favourite being aiki jutsu , the guys used to complete in justu and judo comps . But like most schools then more focus on throws and locks with majority basic submissions chokes and arm locks not many leg locks but the reason for that is before we could get knee surgery, breaking a leg training was considered very bad practice and unnecessary as students would be crippled for life, more focus was put on " the gentle art " side of the samurai arts and so we have the most recent Japanese martial art aikido is also traditionally more spiritual
Even with modern medical standards, breaking a leg or knee is still very bad practice and can still cripple you for life.
@@afterzanzibar I completely agree with you and feel these simple facts are overlooked.
The moment an MMA fighter pulls off a Kotegaeshi like you did at 6:00 and then ends the fight with some hammer fists, is gonna be the moment everyone acts like they never thought Aikido didn't work lol. Good job on that one.
Exactly! I'll try and be that mma guy next time I fight haha 🙏✌💪
Aikikai needs to understand the principle of "SHUHARI" O sensei lived by it!
you have to record the spars and systematise concepts to apply somewhat to get the full benefits. it depends on the individuals, of course some , especially early on, will develop more with drills
Excellent!
So i agree with what is said, except one point, free sparing is the closest representation of a fight, no drill will give a better representation.
But the really question is why do we need to fight in a class when we are there to learn?
Hard sparing only teaches a couple things and At different levels of skill people get different things out of hard sparing.
Beginner, only learns how to fight though pain, how to handle fear and discomfort and how to continue throwing shots while getting hit.
Intermediate, learns to adjust on the fly, timing and range against an actively resisting opposition.
Advance, i dont think advanced fighters learn anything through sparing, all they do is get better at excuting while under fire.
Couple massive issues i see at most gyms is that they spare/roll etc with the same people all the time because of low numbers and all that happens is they get better at fighting those specific people and ive seen this hurt them come fight night or at competitions. If you only have a small group to train with i would recommend only hard sparing once a month, and you do drilling and posistional sparing instead, this allows a long enough time to pass for there to be development of new skills and for the people to not get specificly conditioned to fighting specific people.
If people want to do more hard sparing than once a month i recommend traveling to other gyms each week to get experience fightong completely different people.
To many people enjoy the fight to much and spar with outbconsidering what it is we are trying to develop.
Well said, I don't see where we disagree though, I think the point was about importance of situational sparring combined with free sparring, for example; for a while early in my journey I used to train by only free sparring and had to correct some significant bad habits, so what jamie was saying is only about that particular angle, anyways check out the full conversation ✌
@@martialgeeks I was being autisticly pedantic on the specific statement around the 8min mark on this video where he said that some drilling is a better representation of an actual fight, and it's not, but that's a good thing and also the point, drilling is a fictional split second snap shot of a likely scenario with in a fight.
@armoureddan1096 I'm super autisticly pedantic about stuff too so I appreciate that haha, I think it's just maybe a semantics thing due to it being from a live
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Aikikai Aikido don't have problems..
But you have problems with Aikikai Aikido.
You wonna fight than learn Shodokan Karate Do not sport way.
I don't have a problem with aikido aikikai as long as they're honest about what their practice is/isn't