@@RKBenchmarker Agreed. Who wants to pull a GPU and other components just to get inside to pop out a battery. Clear CMOS buttons should be mandatory on any modern motherboard. What's it cost? $0.50?
When I get around to building one I think I'll go with the Asrock board. As nice as this one is (and at a great price) only having 3 PCIE slots and no U.2 is kind of a bummer.
Did you mention that the board has connectors for temperature sensors? I wonder when motherboards are going to introduce connector for sensors to measure the temperature of water in a custom watercooling loop.
This is a really nice looking motherboard, but it would be nice to see more creator boards that support the AM5 socket. ASUS ProArt only has one option and I have yet to see anything else that competes to that line of boards from ASUS.
I know it's a click bait title but it's a compromise by virtue of the fact most air cooled 4090s will render that second Gen 5 PCI-E slot useless. More manufacturers need to be providing a 4 slot PCI-E layout for the main two Gen 5 PCI-E slots. Shouldn't have to go hybrid or Quadro to use your two main PCI-E slots given power and cooling requirements for GPUs aren't likely to trend anywhere but up.
Agree. Sometimes I wonder if board companies should just accept that any interesting card is going to be double wide. Just use that space for M.2 or similar. Make the board long enough to be 2 or 3 slots of double wide PCIE performance versions.
Wish they made a black out version of this board. I also like the M.2 heatsinks to be held in by screws, the M.2 being tooless is fine but what if the heatsink clip breaks, how are we holding that heatsink back in? Wish I could afford this platform, it so nice.
one of the biggest points of threadripper is for all of those sweet pcie lanes yet this board only has 3 16x pcie slots when there should be at least 6? the other huge point is for quad channel memory, and they only give you 4 slots on this board when there should be at least 8...
Which revision of this motherboard is it? There are already at least 3 revisions because Gigabyte had problems with sleep mode with this motherboard. Also like Gigabyte what are discrete mosfets doing on such an expensive motherboard in 2024 and only 3xpcie x16 slots considering the platform has 48+24 pcie lanes?
Board looks really sweet, my only issue with it is only 3 pcie slots. Im planning on threadripper build since Im out of PCIE lanes for what I need, and now with ample pcie lanes with threadripper, I would be stuck with out of slots for it. But I love that it has 8 sata ports, and if I would go with Asus I would need to plug in external sata controller and waste one slot that way, eh.
"No compromise", you say? Houw about this: you can only install 3 GPUs on it, and it only has 4 DIMM slots, so you can only use half of the available memory channels of the CPU. How's that for a compromise?
@@TheRealLink Yes, non-pro Threadripper only has 4 channels, but when you claim such things as "Ultimate NO-COMPROMISE motherboard", that sort of implies you can use the best available hardware on it to the best of its ability, which would be the Threadripper Pro, that will have half of its memory channels unused on this board, thus compromising its maximum performance. In reality, the "Ultimate, no compromise motherboard for Threadripper 7000" would be something with the WRX90 chipset. TL;DR: My issue is with the misleading/clickbait title.
It only has x4 M.2 slots. But wow the DDR memory slots support up to 1TB of memory1 And 2 x PCI Express x16 slots, supporting PCIe 5.0 and running at x16.
1. USB 4 on this board is... Thunderbolt 4. Its run by Intel's JHL8540 based on MapleRidge chipset. If you read manual/specs page before publishing review you would know that. It's not run by AsMedia 4242 which is native AMD solution. Why it's called USB4? Because of stupid marketing gibberish. But on the other hand if you're audio creator and has a lot of TB-audio peripherals this is perfect board for you. 2. ESPI_DB - Enhanced Serial Protocol Interface (eSPI), DB - Debug. I don't know why Gigabyte doesn't write clearly its header reserved for authorized personnel/service only. It's not that difficult. eSPI is standard which is aimed at replacing old COM, for devices which support it. Purely for servers and specialized applications. Overall nice board. It's kind of a bummer it has only 3 x16 slots. I would trade M.2s underneath the GPU for SlimSAS/MCIO 8i port (or x8 PCI slot) because enterprise drives aren't heat/power constrained. They will live basically forever compared to consumer grade devices and nobody sane should run Gen.5 NVMe under GPU. You will melt the drive unless you have ridiculous amount of airflow pushed underneath the VGA. Gen.5 controller uses a lot of power at peaks. Like big industrial HBA, 10-15W something like this. That's super crazy, M.2 has no thermal envelope to survive this for long. 8 SATA ports is also very nice. All M.2s are wired to the CPU and not a chipset so it won't affect the performance because chipset has only single Gen4x4 link which is saturated by any single Gen4 drive. Tempting as heck. VGA for rendering. 4xU.2 adapter for my Micron 7450s and OWC's Accelsior 8M.2. Pretty beastly rig. Still lack of that extra slot, kind of hard to stomach. I think will get AsRock WRX90 (2xMCIO) if possible or AsusTRX50 because Asus USB4 AIC is run by AsMedia 4242 and it has 3x16 + 1x8. Decisions!
This board had some engineering problems. Now it has third revision (in a month...), on first revision you can't put your system in sleep S3 state. Check the revision before purchase!
@@falsevacuum1988 Yeah tell me about it. I wanted to write this, but I actually deleted that part of response. Good old GB. Releasing revisions like there is no tomorrow. TRX40 Designare had like 4 revisions to fix broken electric paths and other stuff they screwed (like inability to use more than 2 GPUs without melting the board, I had huge issues with 3x1080Ti back then switching to single 3090 solved problem in 1 second). S3 still strikes TRX40 on occasion, but in general after 6 BIOS updates and GPU replacement my 1.0 is fine, but I've maxed it out completely with devices. Anyway... For some reason GB server division has all competent engineers and consumers get scraps, but Aero is certainly unique board on the market and UEFI got huge upgrade. Very tempting to try.
Nice board. Almost perfect, but it could be better (i.e. would prefer only 2x M.2, and instead one extra PCIe slot there at the bottom, plus some MCIO ports maybe). But I very much like the top PCIe being designed to hold 2.5-3 slot GPU. Also while this is little known, TRX50 does actually support quad channel memory. It is not a function of chipset. Pro supports 8 channels, and Non-Pro supports 4 channels. It is independent of the chipset, even if AMD says otherwise. (There are boards with TRX50 that support 8 channels with Pro CPU). But almost all TRX50 of course comes with 4 channel (maybe Gigabyte TRX50 AI TOP being an exception), because it is cheaper.
Nice board and video as usual, I'm not sure why we can't get a motherboard that supports thunderbolt and standard USB C especially at this level.. My laptop has both so really don't understand it, I'm a full time editor and use both of those, I have a big 72 tb thunderbolt raid and smaller USB C ssd drives and I use them both. For a creator board I find it strange that you can only have one.
if the 4090 has a 3 slot cooler (like the FE), the answer is yes. If it's a custom one with 3,5 or 4 slots, then no, you can't use the second pcie x16 gen 5 slot. As a general rule, remember that an M.2 slot occupies 1 pcie slot. There are 2 m.2s up there, so you can guess the total is 3 for the first slot
Not true unfortunately. You can't fit 2 x 4090FE on a 3 slot spaced board. They will choke each other. You need 4 slot spacing because a 4090FE is 3 slots wide (Need 3 for card + 1 for airflow). This 'no compromise' board is a compromise for that reason alone. @@sardanus
@@ride19881 you're right but i was answering about the possibility to mount another gpu (maybe smaller) or another pcie card onto the second slot, i didn't say that's a good idea ;)
Hello Tech! I love your videos! Please I have a question, I'm looking to get a pc for video editing (mainly After Effects). I was looking at R9 5900x because its cheaper than I9 12900k all things considered... I'm on a tight budget, so i9 is out of the question... I also found i7 12700k on your channel to be a GREAT option for After Effects and PPRO. Is the difference between i7 12700k and R9 5900X that much noticeable? If it is, what budget MOBO (DDR5) would you recommend for i7 12700k and can I cool it with artic AIO 240mm? I would really appreciate your help because im not that well versed in the tech, maybe something changed, maybe you found something out in the meantime... so i thought its best to ask you directly so i dont lose money making the wrong call since that is the last thing i want while taking care of 2 year old son 😅
Hey boss, I need a motherboard that’s designed for creators, that can support 3 monitors, 2 powerful GPUs, and a GPU accelerator. Can this motherboard do this? I prefer Intel over AMD. Thanks in advanced.
I used to only buy gigabyte for decades. In the past few years they dropped the ball and try and stay relavant by paying social media to shill for them.
LOL from the company caught injecting UEFI rootkits straight from firmware on their mobos - I wouldn't touch this trash with 10 foot pole. This boards wifi drivers don't even work with windows 11 consistently, hell the installer can't even find a suitable driver for them.
you have 4 channel memory in this board. Comparing to normal DIMMs, RDIMMs are also available in higher capacity, so you don't need 2 slots per channel
@HardwareScience Those are workstation mobo. This is a HEDT and as others have pointed out, very different from x670e, which is what I believe he was thinking.
Take a look at the Silverstone options. I just got the Silverstone Ice Gem 360. It has FULL coverage of the cpu. Reasonable cost compared with other AIO solutions. Way nicer looking than the Noctua brown nightmare fan 😂
Keep in mind that Rev 1 versions of this board dont support sleep. Rev 1.2 has reinforced PCIE slots. Most in stock are Rev 1.0 right now
Very important info, thank you
I RMA'd my rev 1.0, and after 3.5 weeks, received rev 1.1
@@RKBenchmarker Moving on up in the world! Kind of wish this board had more USB built into the I/O
@@snarksdomain I'm disappointed it doesn't have digital audio and a clear cmos button on the back I/O
@@RKBenchmarker Agreed. Who wants to pull a GPU and other components just to get inside to pop out a battery. Clear CMOS buttons should be mandatory on any modern motherboard. What's it cost? $0.50?
This will be my build board my next Threadripper. Thanks for the review!
Good choice!
Seems like an awesome no bullshit board. Loving passive VRM cooling. Aiming for this board in the next build.
Router = Network Device... Rooter = A tool use to unclog drains (Drain Snake)
I'm euro accents they're pronounced the same 😂
To root.. in Australia means to fornicate, getting jiggy with it
Just a remark: the ASUS PRO WS TRX50 SAGE WIFI has 3 M.2 slots (two of them PCIe 5.0), not 2 as you declared in your video.
What's the spacing like between the top 2 GPU slots? Can you run a triple-fan 4090 in both slots and still get airflow?
When I get around to building one I think I'll go with the Asrock board. As nice as this one is (and at a great price) only having 3 PCIE slots and no U.2 is kind of a bummer.
0:15 because... there isnt much choice, so consider each option carefuly?
Did you mention that the board has connectors for temperature sensors? I wonder when motherboards are going to introduce connector for sensors to measure the temperature of water in a custom watercooling loop.
This is a really nice looking motherboard, but it would be nice to see more creator boards that support the AM5 socket. ASUS ProArt only has one option and I have yet to see anything else that competes to that line of boards from ASUS.
I know it's a click bait title but it's a compromise by virtue of the fact most air cooled 4090s will render that second Gen 5 PCI-E slot useless. More manufacturers need to be providing a 4 slot PCI-E layout for the main two Gen 5 PCI-E slots. Shouldn't have to go hybrid or Quadro to use your two main PCI-E slots given power and cooling requirements for GPUs aren't likely to trend anywhere but up.
Agree. Sometimes I wonder if board companies should just accept that any interesting card is going to be double wide. Just use that space for M.2 or similar. Make the board long enough to be 2 or 3 slots of double wide PCIE performance versions.
Wish they made a black out version of this board. I also like the M.2 heatsinks to be held in by screws, the M.2 being tooless is fine but what if the heatsink clip breaks, how are we holding that heatsink back in? Wish I could afford this platform, it so nice.
Haha, i was waiting for you to drop a TRX50 video.. this will be my podcast on the way to work tomorrow.. JIIIIR
Hope you enjoyed it!
I have this board + 7960x + 4080 +64gb ddr5 and its frickin sweet!!! only thing is my GPU is too big and blocks 2nd PCI slot atm -_-
That is annoying indeed!
one of the biggest points of threadripper is for all of those sweet pcie lanes yet this board only has 3 16x pcie slots when there should be at least 6? the other huge point is for quad channel memory, and they only give you 4 slots on this board when there should be at least 8...
Which revision of this motherboard is it? There are already at least 3 revisions because Gigabyte had problems with sleep mode with this motherboard. Also like Gigabyte what are discrete mosfets doing on such an expensive motherboard in 2024 and only 3xpcie x16 slots considering the platform has 48+24 pcie lanes?
I've had bad luck with Giga in the past. Your comment is telling me to keep them on my blacklist.
Board looks really sweet, my only issue with it is only 3 pcie slots. Im planning on threadripper build since Im out of PCIE lanes for what I need, and now with ample pcie lanes with threadripper, I would be stuck with out of slots for it. But I love that it has 8 sata ports, and if I would go with Asus I would need to plug in external sata controller and waste one slot that way, eh.
ESP IDB header is coding thing. If i remember correctly its for vscode with esp-idf extensions.
I just built my first PC yesterday. Dont make me take it apart already. I went with the MSI Z790 Tomahawk Wifi board I think I'm good to go.
How is the linux support on the Gigabyte TRX50 motherboard? Does the WIFI 7 connection work? is there driver compatibility problems on linux?
do any of the new boards support Older things like S.L.I NV-link like the older TRX40/WRX80 boards do?
But can it run crysis ?
ye you don't even need to plug it into anything
I'm liking these new Threadrippers. My old 3970X is getting pretty nervous. 🤣
"No compromise", you say? Houw about this: you can only install 3 GPUs on it, and it only has 4 DIMM slots, so you can only use half of the available memory channels of the CPU.
How's that for a compromise?
Isn't non-pro 4 channel only? Might be confusing WR Threadripper Pro which has 8 channels.
@@TheRealLink Yes, non-pro Threadripper only has 4 channels, but when you claim such things as "Ultimate NO-COMPROMISE motherboard", that sort of implies you can use the best available hardware on it to the best of its ability, which would be the Threadripper Pro, that will have half of its memory channels unused on this board, thus compromising its maximum performance.
In reality, the "Ultimate, no compromise motherboard for Threadripper 7000" would be something with the WRX90 chipset.
TL;DR: My issue is with the misleading/clickbait title.
No TRX50 has more than 4 DIMM slots. You need to go WRX90.
It only has x4 M.2 slots. But wow the DDR memory slots support up to 1TB of memory1 And 2 x PCI Express x16 slots, supporting PCIe 5.0 and running at x16.
OMG "ROOTER" and I was like "no.. it's ROUTER like LOUD" and then you said "am I upsetting some people right now." ROFL.. right on man!
lol
Please review the WRX90 motherboard with Threadripper PRO.
I wish they would make a 7950x for this platform. I don't need the extra cores but the extra pcie lanes would make it worth the cost upgrade.
I wish they'd made TRX50 non-RDIMM.
Just having RDIMM raises the RAM price by 100% vs a UDIMM platform.
1. USB 4 on this board is... Thunderbolt 4. Its run by Intel's JHL8540 based on MapleRidge chipset. If you read manual/specs page before publishing review you would know that. It's not run by AsMedia 4242 which is native AMD solution. Why it's called USB4? Because of stupid marketing gibberish. But on the other hand if you're audio creator and has a lot of TB-audio peripherals this is perfect board for you.
2. ESPI_DB - Enhanced Serial Protocol Interface (eSPI), DB - Debug. I don't know why Gigabyte doesn't write clearly its header reserved for authorized personnel/service only. It's not that difficult. eSPI is standard which is aimed at replacing old COM, for devices which support it. Purely for servers and specialized applications.
Overall nice board. It's kind of a bummer it has only 3 x16 slots. I would trade M.2s underneath the GPU for SlimSAS/MCIO 8i port (or x8 PCI slot) because enterprise drives aren't heat/power constrained. They will live basically forever compared to consumer grade devices and nobody sane should run Gen.5 NVMe under GPU. You will melt the drive unless you have ridiculous amount of airflow pushed underneath the VGA. Gen.5 controller uses a lot of power at peaks. Like big industrial HBA, 10-15W something like this. That's super crazy, M.2 has no thermal envelope to survive this for long. 8 SATA ports is also very nice. All M.2s are wired to the CPU and not a chipset so it won't affect the performance because chipset has only single Gen4x4 link which is saturated by any single Gen4 drive.
Tempting as heck. VGA for rendering. 4xU.2 adapter for my Micron 7450s and OWC's Accelsior 8M.2. Pretty beastly rig. Still lack of that extra slot, kind of hard to stomach. I think will get AsRock WRX90 (2xMCIO) if possible or AsusTRX50 because Asus USB4 AIC is run by AsMedia 4242 and it has 3x16 + 1x8. Decisions!
This board had some engineering problems. Now it has third revision (in a month...), on first revision you can't put your system in sleep S3 state. Check the revision before purchase!
@@falsevacuum1988
Yeah tell me about it. I wanted to write this, but I actually deleted that part of response. Good old GB. Releasing revisions like there is no tomorrow. TRX40 Designare had like 4 revisions to fix broken electric paths and other stuff they screwed (like inability to use more than 2 GPUs without melting the board, I had huge issues with 3x1080Ti back then switching to single 3090 solved problem in 1 second). S3 still strikes TRX40 on occasion, but in general after 6 BIOS updates and GPU replacement my 1.0 is fine, but I've maxed it out completely with devices. Anyway... For some reason GB server division has all competent engineers and consumers get scraps, but Aero is certainly unique board on the market and UEFI got huge upgrade. Very tempting to try.
Nice board. Almost perfect, but it could be better (i.e. would prefer only 2x M.2, and instead one extra PCIe slot there at the bottom, plus some MCIO ports maybe). But I very much like the top PCIe being designed to hold 2.5-3 slot GPU.
Also while this is little known, TRX50 does actually support quad channel memory. It is not a function of chipset. Pro supports 8 channels, and Non-Pro supports 4 channels. It is independent of the chipset, even if AMD says otherwise. (There are boards with TRX50 that support 8 channels with Pro CPU). But almost all TRX50 of course comes with 4 channel (maybe Gigabyte TRX50 AI TOP being an exception), because it is cheaper.
Are the threadreipper motherboards future proof?
Nice board and video as usual, I'm not sure why we can't get a motherboard that supports thunderbolt and standard USB C especially at this level.. My laptop has both so really don't understand it, I'm a full time editor and use both of those, I have a big 72 tb thunderbolt raid and smaller USB C ssd drives and I use them both. For a creator board I find it strange that you can only have one.
How much space is there between 1st and 2nd pcie slot.
Does it have enough space to fit rtx 4090 air cool card without interference in 2nd slot
I mean, you can see and infer from the video. It's fit a 3 slot cooler.
if the 4090 has a 3 slot cooler (like the FE), the answer is yes. If it's a custom one with 3,5 or 4 slots, then no, you can't use the second pcie x16 gen 5 slot. As a general rule, remember that an M.2 slot occupies 1 pcie slot. There are 2 m.2s up there, so you can guess the total is 3 for the first slot
Not true unfortunately. You can't fit 2 x 4090FE on a 3 slot spaced board. They will choke each other. You need 4 slot spacing because a 4090FE is 3 slots wide (Need 3 for card + 1 for airflow). This 'no compromise' board is a compromise for that reason alone. @@sardanus
@@ride19881 you're right but i was answering about the possibility to mount another gpu (maybe smaller) or another pcie card onto the second slot, i didn't say that's a good idea ;)
I'm sure my next toilet seat will have an AI sticker
Hello Tech!
I love your videos!
Please I have a question, I'm looking to get a pc for video editing (mainly After Effects). I was looking at R9 5900x because its cheaper than I9 12900k all things considered...
I'm on a tight budget, so i9 is out of the question...
I also found i7 12700k on your channel to be a GREAT option for After Effects and PPRO. Is the difference between i7 12700k and R9 5900X that much noticeable?
If it is, what budget MOBO (DDR5) would you recommend for i7 12700k and can I cool it with artic AIO 240mm?
I would really appreciate your help because im not that well versed in the tech, maybe something changed, maybe you found something out in the meantime... so i thought its best to ask you directly so i dont lose money making the wrong call since that is the last thing i want while taking care of 2 year old son 😅
The form factor is unfortunately E-ATX not ATX!
I've heard Gigabyte motherboards are buggy and don't have a good bios. Is this true? Do you trust them?
Hey boss, I need a motherboard that’s designed for creators, that can support 3 monitors, 2 powerful GPUs, and a GPU accelerator. Can this motherboard do this? I prefer Intel over AMD.
Thanks in advanced.
I used to only buy gigabyte for decades. In the past few years they dropped the ball and try and stay relavant by paying social media to shill for them.
Someday, someone will make an ARM v9 motherboard like this, for #creators.
Its either this or the PRO version. Might need 6 GPUs instead of only two on this board.
aand now they dropped the AI TOP mobo, making this a low-end choice xD
12:17 you used both common pronunciations, that should please everyone!
LOL from the company caught injecting UEFI rootkits straight from firmware on their mobos - I wouldn't touch this trash with 10 foot pole. This boards wifi drivers don't even work with windows 11 consistently, hell the installer can't even find a suitable driver for them.
If I could afford a new threadripper I would get it since this Motherboard is awesome, im still using an old 2920X..
Only 4 sticks of memory? facepalm
You are thinking of this like a normal ddr5 x670e board, which is great; but what's the issue you're thinking of?
you have 4 channel memory in this board. Comparing to normal DIMMs, RDIMMs are also available in higher capacity, so you don't need 2 slots per channel
It's 4 channels not dual channel ;)
@@RKBenchmarkerthe fact that there are some trx50 boards with 8 slots
@HardwareScience Those are workstation mobo. This is a HEDT and as others have pointed out, very different from x670e, which is what I believe he was thinking.
But why they made it white only! 🙄😔
There is only one (ugly) compatable air cooler!
Take a look at the Silverstone options. I just got the Silverstone Ice Gem 360. It has FULL coverage of the cpu. Reasonable cost compared with other AIO solutions. Way nicer looking than the Noctua brown nightmare fan 😂
Damn im really early