Rosamund Pike is one of my favourite actresses as she possesses something few do…. an innate feeling of inner poise & grace. Which is perfect for a role like this. Rachel Weisz is another favorite actress for this same reason.
A wise man once said, the books are the books and the show is the show. I'm not a purist so I appreciate the show for what it is. And, Rosamund Pike IS Moiraine Damodred and Daniel Henney IS al'Lan Mandragoran.
A wise woman said, that Rosamund Pike did all her best to play Moiraine Damodred, but im pretty sure even screenwriters didnt read Eye of the World, Great Hunt or Dragon Reborned. And thats a shame since Wheel of Time deserves a decent show adaptation
It's a damn shame, because I love the casting in the show. Almost everyone nails every role... but the writing is abysmal. Rafe Judkins should be blacklisted for this atrocity.
@@crunchyoats1862 Doesn't matter. Rand is the Dragon Reborn. Arguably the strongest being with the one power alive aside from the Dark One himself. In the books they needed a full circle to shield him, and even then the whiole damn circle was badly injured. Suian just slapping him around is insulting.
@@arielfetters5662ye but rand hasn't learned how to channel properly yet. You could give a toddler a bazooka but u won't expect it to blow up a tank until u teach it.
@@cauanfuentespessoa9837 i disagree. he is imensely powerful even with poor training since its instinctive for him. it doesn't even make sense he can beat a forsaken and be shielded with that ease. siuan was powerful in modern age, but in forsaken level she is a child.
It’s been decades since I’ve read the Wheel of Time series ( never read the Sanderson books) so I’m just going along for the ride and actually enjoying this video adaptation. Just hate having to wait forever from season to season……
@@TathagataMitraTom I just grew tired of it all and with Jordan’s passing…. I just gave up….I mean come on, it’s a 14 book series and after 19 years and 12 books I’d had enough. If I had started the series when it was finished, I would have definitely read the last 2 books. But I never found the series interesting enough to reread any of the books, so after a while my interests moved on. I’ve read lots of literature in the SyFy and Fantasy realm over the years. From Asimov, Clarke, Herbert and Niven to Tolkien, Eddings, Brust, McCaffery and Sanderson. Many of their books I return to again and again. Like a fine wine with friends…. Probably a longer answer than you were expecting….lol. But I’ve enjoyed what Rosamund has done with her series, more so than The Rings of Power…. TC 🥂😎
You need to read the Sanderson books, he spent a lot of time with Robert before he died and he had the benefits of all his notes so although Robert didn't right the end of the tale I feel that Sanderson did homage and a great service to his bringing his full vision to life.
@@TathagataMitraTom I stand corrected you are right - I got confused because I did read somewhere that Jordan's wife chose Sanderson to finish the series. after reading the entire series - I still think that Sanderson did an amirable job of seamlessly weaving his writing into what Jordan left. Thank you for correcting me.
@@thebabbynick1543 It's been two seasons now and they haven't even *mentioned* the fact that the One Power has two halves, saidin and saidar, let alone actually made any effort to integrate that fact. Also, the One Power cannot be used to resurrect the dead, and yet Egwene does exactly that in the last episode of season 1. They also completely abandoned the fact that souls are inherently gendered in this universe (as opposed to the real world, where gender is not essential, just to be clear), which is a fundamental aspect of the magic system in Wheel of Time, and the reason that males always channel saidin and females saidar. Oh, and a barely-trained Egwene was able to fend off Ishamael; enough said.
@@federicofloro4320 i thought about it as she was attacking the boats like it happened on the first season, but she could also believe they are putting lives at risk and were dark friends, makes sense as well.
That was in the book, You will not find things from the book in this show. They stole the IP for names and are just writing a horrid version of something that most likely will not see season 4
They actually do. The books showed instances of Aes Sedai literally chocking on a lie. This separate oath is the key cause of what looks like compulsion, which is a great foreshadowing, since we have been introduced to a Forsaken that uses compulsion plenty of times.@@Nyet-Zdyes
why did lan comment on the weaves? he can't see them. why does moiraine seem to know what rand is doing? she can't see his weaves. did anyone at the show read the books?
Lan commented on the weaves because Logain could still see the weaves and let Lan know when he visited him that Moraine had weaves on her made by a man.
While the show takes quite a lot of liberties with the rules and systems of channelling, some I like and some I don't, I still feel they did a great job with the characters and casting. It's still a good show, it's just not Robert Jordan levels.
As Lan said, that skill had been lost for thousands of years as no one from that time was still alive, and knowledge was lost with the Breaking of the World.
@@coffeeboywonderyeah.... in the books pretty much everyone knows how to tie off weaves... And yes, a forsaken had the strenght to cut someone from the source.
@@joaotadeuornelas3457 Not many did know at the start of the books. It's one of those skills that gets rediscovered by the main cast and quickly becomes widespread, like traveling.
@@joaotadeuornelas3457 everyone can tie off a weave, but this is not just that. Morains ability to weave was tied into a knot that's too complicated for most to see, let alone fix. Obviously this whole story line is made up, but this ability is from the books. Moghedin ties liandrins weaves into a knot that is kept even after moghedins travels very far.
@@Zenmasterzzz Based on a book, which fans have been wanting to see on the screen for decades? Like this whole "its a tv show" argument is tired - WoT fans have been waiting forever and now we get... not WoT, but WoT in name that just takes up the space where a REAL adaptation could have been made. The changes made so far have not been in the best interest of the story, they didnt HAVE to be made, and 9/10 times it makes the TV shows story worse anyway.
@@But...WhyTho there has to be a deviated storyline to make sure it's alittle different , so it'd still a surprise , plus doesn't the writer on the book work on the show as well ?
@randomness2k027 a little different is fine, but when you're messing up the LITERAL MAGIC SYSTEM, giving huge character moments to the wrong person, inventing fake wives just to kill them and outright missing the entire point of the entire story it's a bit frustrating. They were free to make a new story if they wanted, but instead they took an extremely popular story and just shredded it. The original author Robert Jordan died a few years ago, Brandon Sanderson finished the last book which he turned into three books because there was so much to cover and he was so invested in giving it a proper ending. Now on live streams hes literally almost on tears telling people "I'm so sorry. I tried really hard to make this show good. They won't listen to me."
Siuan literally using the One Power as a weapon to toss Lan around and even compel Moiraine to do shit is so out of line with the books... It's infuriating.
I haven't read the book nor do I know a lot about the lore, but why didn't Suan just close herself at the gate??? I mean it would have been also very interesting to see that fight to keep the gate closed/open!!
isnt Rand suppose to be fairly tan and also have long redish hair? isnt the waygate supposed to be opened by one of the stone leaves around it and not the one power? did Siuan truly think that her life was in danger from Lan? because she used the power on him as a weapon which means she has to either think hes a darkfriend or that her life is in danger. why does it seem that Rand is using fire to break a shield instead of spirit? swearing extra oaths to siuane? failing at the eye? wtf is happening here. im so happy i just stuck to rereading the books.
Because forcing a character to act in a way outside of their character is a staple of lazy, incompetent writing, and this is hardly the only example of that on display in the show.
@@kmallory100 I've definitely got a case of schadenfreude about that show. I love to hate it. That show is *supposed* to be about heroes and heroines... but not one of them is, after the things that the show-runner has done to them in his twisted version of the story.
according to the writers, its not a direct book adaptations, it's like a new or different turning of the wheel, they found a loop-hole in not adapting book accurately
Honestly, this show suffers from passing. They don't know what to skip, what to keep. The first season was kinda good because it made the right choices. But the fatal flaw here is that they skipped Fal Dhara, the shouldn't have cured mat in this first season, hence the pursuit of Fain can happen and Rand's character changes can be shown as well as his powers and the introductions of other worlds and Tel Enrhiod using Perrin. They could have skipped the random lord and the firework incident while still portraying Lanfear correctly, because wtf did they do with her ?! Honestly, they could have skipped her altogether when we look at what we got . They could have kept her in Tel An' Rhiod to interact with Rand, could have been a way to explore tbe dreams as well. And the Seanchians , bruh 😭. I'll pass on them, it wasn't so bad as it may seems, it principally lacked in epic grandeur .And then, Moraine, ok if you want to cripple her , do it but then don't heal her rn. It shouldn't be even a thought as in the books it is said that even in the Age of legend they didn't know how to do it .But they shouldn't have cut her form the saidar, because how the heck will she be able to kill the forsaken in the heart of stone ? Well anyway, they read the book diagonally, skipped the characters change and the different realms introduction, but it is fine 😊😢😭💀🗿
That is because you are probably another book reader who still thinks that every show based on characters and events from a book are supposed to go exactly how it was written in the books and that has NEVER been the case. Show versions has and will always change some aspects to give a different perspective of what could happened differently from the books. Without reading the book, I think this show is entertaining and well done on lore and magic aspect. It also has some good acting.
That's what I did after I saw the season 3 trailer. I have a hard time visualizing things, so it was kind of cool to read the books and be able to see Egwene, Nyneave, and the gang.
Lan telling Moiraine about the Forsaken’s powers is like Moiraine telling Lan about sword forms. This is information she should either already be aware of or neither of them should know about. Absolute butchering of the source material.
Indeed, I still laugh when I think at the plot of the second season: bring the Stone of Tears to the Pillars of Creation to stop the Keeper. A sentence which doesn’t make any sense in any way in the books.
@thandokuhlethando8295 it is awesome. I have the whole book series and have read them 4-5x's. That's why I have a problem with the TV series and movies that don't explain the characters or plots correctly.
@@joemcknel2515 totally agree! fun fact: when Siuan forced the oath on Moiraine, I actually remembered the Power of Orden as it was represented on the show! 😂
Why is it that people who read books have SUCH HIGH expectations when the books are turned into a show? YOU people do realized that it no show ever made would be like the books right!? It’s not intended to be nore would it be! STOP being BITTER and NEGATIVE and if you like the books at least fake supporting the show even if it bad to you, YOU are ruining for those of us who started an interested on it!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️
imagine if Lord of the Rings was the same quality as Rings of Power... no one would have gotten interested in the most incredible fantasy world there is. Wheel of Time is the same Way. WoT is second only to LOTR in terms of story and thus the WoT show isn't as good as it could be. It could be on the same level of hype as Dune or Game of Thrones S1-5, but its not and its sad. People will think the story was okay when in reality its pure perfection. The show is "fine" but it could be "perfect" with more budget and loyal writers, but NOW another adaptation attempt will likely never happen for at least 30 years, which you have to admit is sad.
@@vcuuuc6124 not that I know of. S3 was already confirmed before S2 released and did poorly. Unless S3 has an absolute comeback which I hope it does, this show is cooked. They have made improvements since season 1, but if they don’t stop actively ignoring Brandon Sandersons advice, this show will end after S3.
Because, if the showrunners wanted to tell their own story, they should do that. Come up with your own setting, world, etc and do it instead of bastardizing a story because it has a known name and a built in audience. That's what I never get about these loose adaptations where they just do what they want and coat it with the wrappings of the original story. If executives buy the rights to an IP and value it due to its name recognition with a built-in audience, why would you alter the story so heavily? This one is not as bad as Rings of Power on the bad adaptation scale, but too many unnecessary changes, imo. And yes, some of us would rather the show was done to a higher set of expectations than have been done at all. That said, if you are enjoying it. Enjoy it. Why care if many of the rest of us are disappointed?
no show ever made would be like the books? i mean, there 4 shows like Game of Thrones n Lord of the Rings. didn't they adapt correctly and the fans loved it? book fans n new fans alike. what the book readers complain is that the story is sooo much more n is perfect, then why butcher it like this deviate from it that it seems a whole new story. bcz then the ones who've never read the books would think it's how the story is. but it isn't. instead of introducing new plots n scenes, why not work with the original story?
Book fans always run for their lives to demean a show they could just not watch and ignore and then mock its fans. It’s depressing when the show is your first interaction with the universe and you find it compelling and interesting. I love reading books, always have, and I hope I never get this entitled and bitter over an adaptation. No matter how much I loved the source material.
I read the first book when I was still in high school. I read them steadily as they were produced. The final book, I read overnight. All 945 pages. I was looking forward to the series. But what we got was a woke, diversity hire, piece of crap. Visually stunning, but so much of the lore either trashed or tossed aside. It's an insult and quite frankly, we're going to as vocal as we can about it. Don't like it? Tough shit.
They have so many amazing actors and actresses hobbled by such a horrific script and producers who not only don't understand the material, they don't want to.
Wheel of Time the series that is a garbage can fire. Instead of a dumpster fire, because the main characters have to share 1 brain cell among themselves. And you can easily tell who has that one cell at that time. The one person is not crying and has no lines to say. Even dogs try to bury this show in the back yard.
I have read all the books in 3 different languages. I must have read through the series about 10 times throughout the years.... This show is GARBAGE.... A perfect "how not to make a show" guide for future generations... Honestly, i did not think it was humanly possible to ruin a series to this extent, but it is Netflix's The Witcher all over again ..🤮 Disgusting
@@azaglowilliam6072 why? Cause i do not blindly praise what in my eyes is such a bad creation of the best potential series ever written? I am no cheep and you telling me to get lost is not 1% more valid than me telling the show runners to get lost.
@@azaglowilliam6072comments sections are literally just discussion forms. If you can't handle other people's opinions not mirroring yours I recommend you get off the Internet and into therapy.
@@Dman222000 considering how they killed perrin and replaced him with a fraud thats both married and independant, black and with a brand new never heard of personality, making a decent evil character was the very least they could have done. The lesbian aunty moiraine with her ageless grannyface and her huge rock of a guardian "tiny asian lan" is also on point... They killed the series just with the cast alone. Then they absolutely took a shit on every single page robert jordan ever wrote. Why was egwene pushed down a waterfall exactly? Because the showrunners did not like twin river traditions and needed hollywood. Fuck hollywood. Nyaeve.... Dont even get me started... And Mat.... Jeez... But the worst of all is Rand. Seems they were out of budget so they just hired some bloke of the street and gave him boots to almost look a little bit taller than average, a kids tattoo and a bad haircut. They killed his persona, killed his character, killed his lines and gave him a new story. His walk trough the forrest with his "dad" took all of 2 minutes as well. The night of struggle, horror and confusion was replaced with a trip to the neighbors house.... This became an unprofessional rant, but it is just what every actual fan ever is thinking....😅😭 We just wanted the best ever product it could be, and got this..
I can't believe they're still throwing money at this dumpster fire. Can we at least stop calling it 'Wheel of Time' since less than 5% of what we see on screen actually happened in the books? This show is an insult to the author(s) and to generations of fans.
I think the show is great in my opinion if u read the book and hate show stick with the book and if you love the show stick with show stop trying to get the show canceled this is why I hate book adaptations with book purists
i mean, there r shows like Game of Thrones n Lord of the Rings. didn't they adapt correctly and the fans loved it? book fans n new fans alike. what the book readers complain is that the story is sooo much more n is perfect, then why butcher it like this deviate from it that it seems a whole new story. bcz then the ones who've never read the books would think it's how the story is. but it isn't. instead of introducing new plots n scenes, why not work with the original story? like where on earth did the idea come from that waygates need channeling to open. they were created for the ogiers, and ogiers DO NOT channel. why break the whole magic system just so they could give other characters big moments when they r not thiers.
The Wheel of time introduced the idea of Reincarnation by most of the chosen killed by Rand other than by Balefire! The Trollics are humans that have been reincarnated into Trollics by the Darkness! Rand is A 1000 times stronger than a Chosen one of Darkness in the Books! Moraine has a Stronger Talent but she kills Lanfear by pulling her into a Red doorway to the Snakes and Foxes in Season 3! But the Producers and Writers have moved very far from the books and I think it was a way for them to make some money!
This clip is all I've ever seen of the show, and it's not good. Bad acting, bad animation. But the comment section is filled with people complaining about those of us who believe the books are better. There's a reason why we get upset - same with other adaptations (LOTR, Shannara): If you're going to honour something by adapting it onto the screen, honour it by adapting it rather than belittling it by making demonstrably bad changes by comparison. I'm absolutely not going to watch this tripe. But people who do watch and enjoy should similarly recognise the bastardisation of a genre classic for the sake of money and eyeballs.
Again this movie is junk. Follow the story in the books vs thinking you know better. So dissapointing on what is a great story that I have read 3 or more times end to end. I would cuss out these writers thinking they know better.
I hate the changes they made to he world and lore merely for the sake of including their top actress in this season. This entire story line of Moiraine being shielded and whatnot is entirely fabricated to give Pike something to do this season and justify her salary. And in order to do that they had to trash the magic system. Lan a warrior somehow knows about tied off weaves, and is the one who lets the other two know? Why? To justify Moiraine's belief that she's stilled instead of just shielded. A difference ANY channeler would know in the books. Any of them would know the difference. But to insert cheap drama into the story they made it so LAN knows more about the powers and weaves of ancient Aes Sedai then Moiraine does. Secondly Ishmael absolutely could have stilled a channeler as weak as Moiraine by himself no question. He's the second most powerful channeler in all of creation and all time. He could still Moiraine as easily as he shielded her in the abomination of a season 1 finale. Not only that but right after saying Ishmael couldn't still her alone "no one could". They immediately pretend Rand could do it accidentally because this is the WB apparently and fake drama is all these writers know how to write. But then above and beyond that Suian proves herself black Ajah here in this scene. Or at least that she's not bound by the oaths. She attacks Lan with the one power without any provocation unless she genuinely believes Moiraine and Lan are dark friends. But you'd have to be pretty daft to think she believes that.
This show does not work. The second season was absolutely terrible for the reason you see here. The revelations are not something mentioned as being relevant before.
The woman who plays her mesmerized me there’s something so elegant and enchanting about the way she moves when channeling ❤
The audiobooks she reads are very good. There's just something magical about her acting
Rosamund Pike is one of my favourite actresses as she possesses something few do…. an innate feeling of inner poise & grace. Which is perfect for a role like this. Rachel Weisz is another favorite actress for this same reason.
A wise man once said, the books are the books and the show is the show. I'm not a purist so I appreciate the show for what it is.
And, Rosamund Pike IS Moiraine Damodred and Daniel Henney IS al'Lan Mandragoran.
A wise woman said, that Rosamund Pike did all her best to play Moiraine Damodred, but im pretty sure even screenwriters didnt read Eye of the World, Great Hunt or Dragon Reborned. And thats a shame since Wheel of Time deserves a decent show adaptation
@@Starvation the wise woman should feed the producers sheepstongue
It's a damn shame, because I love the casting in the show. Almost everyone nails every role... but the writing is abysmal. Rafe Judkins should be blacklisted for this atrocity.
The acting in these scenes without the CGI must be WILD 😂
Lol I can imagine 😂
technically men cannot see woman's weave and vice versa. they dont have to imagine much. ahahahah
@@thandokuhlethando8295The actors have to imagine
Yes. Hence the requirement for skilled actors and actresses. Because if not none of these scenes would work.
siuan casually shielding rand like a child makes me crazy
rand WAS slacking though, he could've been training but he was too busy with Lanfear
@@crunchyoats1862 Doesn't matter. Rand is the Dragon Reborn. Arguably the strongest being with the one power alive aside from the Dark One himself. In the books they needed a full circle to shield him, and even then the whiole damn circle was badly injured. Suian just slapping him around is insulting.
@@arielfetters5662ye but rand hasn't learned how to channel properly yet. You could give a toddler a bazooka but u won't expect it to blow up a tank until u teach it.
@@cauanfuentespessoa9837 i disagree. he is imensely powerful even with poor training since its instinctive for him. it doesn't even make sense he can beat a forsaken and be shielded with that ease. siuan was powerful in modern age, but in forsaken level she is a child.
@@yurimacena3157 This is like asking someone riding a bike with training wheels to drive a manual stick truck.
Pike's expressions ❤️🔥
To see this, after so many decades, done so well is mega satisfying.
Done well? How many drugs are you on?
Quite a few of the writing decisions were unfortunate, though.
It’s been decades since I’ve read the Wheel of Time series ( never read the Sanderson books)
so I’m just going along for the ride and actually enjoying this video adaptation.
Just hate having to wait forever from season to season……
you never read the ending? why?
@@TathagataMitraTom
I just grew tired of it all and with Jordan’s passing….
I just gave up….I mean come on, it’s a 14 book series and after 19 years and 12 books I’d had enough.
If I had started the series when it was finished, I would have definitely read the last 2 books.
But I never found the series interesting enough to reread any of the books, so after a while my interests moved on.
I’ve read lots of literature in the SyFy and Fantasy realm over the years. From Asimov, Clarke, Herbert and Niven to Tolkien, Eddings, Brust, McCaffery and Sanderson. Many of their books I return to again and again. Like a fine wine with friends….
Probably a longer answer than you were expecting….lol.
But I’ve enjoyed what Rosamund has done with her series, more so than The Rings of Power…. TC 🥂😎
You need to read the Sanderson books, he spent a lot of time with Robert before he died and he had the benefits of all his notes so although Robert didn't right the end of the tale I feel that Sanderson did homage and a great service to his bringing his full vision to life.
@@2260Hamilton-du2ub Sanderson never actually met Jordan. You're misinformed.
@@TathagataMitraTom I stand corrected you are right - I got confused because I did read somewhere that Jordan's wife chose Sanderson to finish the series. after reading the entire series - I still think that Sanderson did an amirable job of seamlessly weaving his writing into what Jordan left. Thank you for correcting me.
i'm convinced some of these actors have real magic... lol. they feel things others can't and just act it out.
The only thing I agree in is they shouldn’t destroy the magic system or messs with the lore of the world
They did that from the first episode.
@@Gryphyn3No, they didn't
How did they destroy the magic system?
@@thebabbynick1543 It's been two seasons now and they haven't even *mentioned* the fact that the One Power has two halves, saidin and saidar, let alone actually made any effort to integrate that fact. Also, the One Power cannot be used to resurrect the dead, and yet Egwene does exactly that in the last episode of season 1. They also completely abandoned the fact that souls are inherently gendered in this universe (as opposed to the real world, where gender is not essential, just to be clear), which is a fundamental aspect of the magic system in Wheel of Time, and the reason that males always channel saidin and females saidar. Oh, and a barely-trained Egwene was able to fend off Ishamael; enough said.
@@enzobarca20 Yes they did.
She closed it. Then reopens it. 😂😂😂
Lanfear reopens it lol
She is bound by her oath to obey siun here but in the last episode she kills people with the one power in violation of her oaths.
they are dark friends she believes so.
They can use the power to kill in defense of themselves and against darkfriends.
@@federicofloro4320 i thought about it as she was attacking the boats like it happened on the first season, but she could also believe they are putting lives at risk and were dark friends, makes sense as well.
@@ticaraujo loop hole of the oaths.
she belives rand is an aesedai because he is also the dragon
@@federicofloro4320 he technically is the only real aes sedai left sans the forsaken
Find the trefoil shaped leaf to open the gate and pass into the ways.
But padan fain is the tree foil leaf
That was in the book, You will not find things from the book in this show. They stole the IP for names and are just writing a horrid version of something that most likely will not see season 4
Such an oath is an abomination as it replicates compulsion! Wicked Suan Sanche!
It was freely given by moiraine, not forced on her
And the safety of the world was at stake, which is beyond these two individuals!
That is the oaths. They force compliance.
@@shauntempley9757 Yes, the oaths are unbreakable... but they don't normally force compliance, because compliance is not one of the oaths.
They actually do. The books showed instances of Aes Sedai literally chocking on a lie.
This separate oath is the key cause of what looks like compulsion, which is a great foreshadowing, since we have been introduced to a Forsaken that uses compulsion plenty of times.@@Nyet-Zdyes
I love it. I realized that what works in the book doesn't work for tv
Why would it not work for TV?
@@j.scottanderson4417How Moraine is becoming A GIANT in Baerlon?? is a fucking stupid thing
@@j.scottanderson4417you would need more than ten episodes for one and you’re not gonna get that. not in this day and age.
why did lan comment on the weaves? he can't see them. why does moiraine seem to know what rand is doing? she can't see his weaves. did anyone at the show read the books?
Lan commented on the weaves because Logain could still see the weaves and let Lan know when he visited him that Moraine had weaves on her made by a man.
While the show takes quite a lot of liberties with the rules and systems of channelling, some I like and some I don't, I still feel they did a great job with the characters and casting. It's still a good show, it's just not Robert Jordan levels.
Do the aes sedai on the show not know about tying off weaves?
As Lan said, that skill had been lost for thousands of years as no one from that time was still alive, and knowledge was lost with the Breaking of the World.
@@coffeeboywonderyeah.... in the books pretty much everyone knows how to tie off weaves... And yes, a forsaken had the strenght to cut someone from the source.
@@joaotadeuornelas3457 Not many did know at the start of the books. It's one of those skills that gets rediscovered by the main cast and quickly becomes widespread, like traveling.
@@joaotadeuornelas3457 everyone can tie off a weave, but this is not just that. Morains ability to weave was tied into a knot that's too complicated for most to see, let alone fix. Obviously this whole story line is made up, but this ability is from the books. Moghedin ties liandrins weaves into a knot that is kept even after moghedins travels very far.
The showmakers did not bother to read properly
season 2 was just phenomenal!!
Why oh why did the screen writers think they knew better than the author? They've corrupted so much of the story that it is unwatchable.
Because it’s a tv show
@@Zenmasterzzz Based on a book, which fans have been wanting to see on the screen for decades?
Like this whole "its a tv show" argument is tired - WoT fans have been waiting forever and now we get... not WoT, but WoT in name that just takes up the space where a REAL adaptation could have been made. The changes made so far have not been in the best interest of the story, they didnt HAVE to be made, and 9/10 times it makes the TV shows story worse anyway.
@@But...WhyTho there has to be a deviated storyline to make sure it's alittle different , so it'd still a surprise , plus doesn't the writer on the book work on the show as well ?
@randomness2k027 a little different is fine, but when you're messing up the LITERAL MAGIC SYSTEM, giving huge character moments to the wrong person, inventing fake wives just to kill them and outright missing the entire point of the entire story it's a bit frustrating. They were free to make a new story if they wanted, but instead they took an extremely popular story and just shredded it.
The original author Robert Jordan died a few years ago, Brandon Sanderson finished the last book which he turned into three books because there was so much to cover and he was so invested in giving it a proper ending. Now on live streams hes literally almost on tears telling people "I'm so sorry. I tried really hard to make this show good. They won't listen to me."
This is barely what's on my shelves.😅
Haven't read these books in ages. Need to do so before I really check this out.
Don't bother it's horrible. Read the books again sure, but the show is really just bad.
@@bandorthegreen620 its worse than "is really just bad" its an abomination
I recommend you don't re-read the books before watching the show.
@@Golladan i do not suggest you watch the show AT ALL
You won't recognize it.
My favorite scene 😍!
Freakin’ incredible.
Siuan literally using the One Power as a weapon to toss Lan around and even compel Moiraine to do shit is so out of line with the books... It's infuriating.
The scene❤
This show turned me into a Darkfriend.
I haven't read the book nor do I know a lot about the lore, but why didn't Suan just close herself at the gate??? I mean it would have been also very interesting to see that fight to keep the gate closed/open!!
Luv siuan 😂😂❤❤❤
isnt Rand suppose to be fairly tan and also have long redish hair?
isnt the waygate supposed to be opened by one of the stone leaves around it and not the one power?
did Siuan truly think that her life was in danger from Lan? because she used the power on him as a weapon which means she has to either think hes a darkfriend or that her life is in danger.
why does it seem that Rand is using fire to break a shield instead of spirit?
swearing extra oaths to siuane? failing at the eye? wtf is happening here.
im so happy i just stuck to rereading the books.
why would siuan (who is a good amyrlin in the books by any standard) use what is BORDERLINE COMPULSION on MOIRAINE fucking DAMODRED wtf
Because forcing a character to act in a way outside of their character is a staple of lazy, incompetent writing, and this is hardly the only example of that on display in the show.
She didn’t use it. In season 1 moiraine sweared oath to obey her
The forsaken coulnt still Moraine... Better not tell them how rand stilled three Aes Sedau simultaniuosly.
0:30 The CGI is hit and miss on this show. This one was a miss!
Better than CW or once upon a time Cgi 😂
They got so many things wrong, I don't even know where to start.
Where to start? Season 1, episode 1, first five minutes...!!
@@Nyet-Zdyes I mean, you're not wrong.
@@kmallory100 I've definitely got a case of schadenfreude about that show.
I love to hate it.
That show is *supposed* to be about heroes and heroines... but not one of them is, after the things that the show-runner has done to them in his twisted version of the story.
according to the writers, its not a direct book adaptations, it's like a new or different turning of the wheel, they found a loop-hole in not adapting book accurately
@@alcazarheironkaisserj.6544 that makes it even worse...
Love this scene
Hi there. Can you please put the whole series on. Please 🙏
Honestly, this show suffers from passing. They don't know what to skip, what to keep. The first season was kinda good because it made the right choices. But the fatal flaw here is that they skipped Fal Dhara, the shouldn't have cured mat in this first season, hence the pursuit of Fain can happen and Rand's character changes can be shown as well as his powers and the introductions of other worlds and Tel Enrhiod using Perrin. They could have skipped the random lord and the firework incident while still portraying Lanfear correctly, because wtf did they do with her ?! Honestly, they could have skipped her altogether when we look at what we got . They could have kept her in Tel An' Rhiod to interact with Rand, could have been a way to explore tbe dreams as well. And the Seanchians , bruh 😭. I'll pass on them, it wasn't so bad as it may seems, it principally lacked in epic grandeur .And then, Moraine, ok if you want to cripple her , do it but then don't heal her rn. It shouldn't be even a thought as in the books it is said that even in the Age of legend they didn't know how to do it .But they shouldn't have cut her form the saidar, because how the heck will she be able to kill the forsaken in the heart of stone ?
Well anyway, they read the book diagonally, skipped the characters change and the different realms introduction, but it is fine 😊😢😭💀🗿
That is because you are probably another book reader who still thinks that every show based on characters and events from a book are supposed to go exactly how it was written in the books and that has NEVER been the case. Show versions has and will always change some aspects to give a different perspective of what could happened differently from the books. Without reading the book, I think this show is entertaining and well done on lore and magic aspect. It also has some good acting.
It’s not as good as the books but I still love the show. Every time I watch it I want to reread the books
That's what I did after I saw the season 3 trailer. I have a hard time visualizing things, so it was kind of cool to read the books and be able to see Egwene, Nyneave, and the gang.
Lan telling Moiraine about the Forsaken’s powers is like Moiraine telling Lan about sword forms. This is information she should either already be aware of or neither of them should know about. Absolute butchering of the source material.
too bad they screwed up parts of the book, or this could have been great.
They did the same thing with the sword of truth series, really bad😢
Indeed, I still laugh when I think at the plot of the second season: bring the Stone of Tears to the Pillars of Creation to stop the Keeper. A sentence which doesn’t make any sense in any way in the books.
But legend of the seeker was an awesome series
@thandokuhlethando8295 it is awesome. I have the whole book series and have read them 4-5x's. That's why I have a problem with the TV series and movies that don't explain the characters or plots correctly.
@@joemcknel2515 totally agree! fun fact: when Siuan forced the oath on Moiraine, I actually remembered the Power of Orden as it was represented on the show! 😂
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Why is it that people who read books have SUCH HIGH expectations when the books are turned into a show? YOU people do realized that it no show ever made would be like the books right!? It’s not intended to be nore would it be! STOP being BITTER and NEGATIVE and if you like the books at least fake supporting the show even if it bad to you, YOU are ruining for those of us who started an interested on it!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️
imagine if Lord of the Rings was the same quality as Rings of Power... no one would have gotten interested in the most incredible fantasy world there is. Wheel of Time is the same Way. WoT is second only to LOTR in terms of story and thus the WoT show isn't as good as it could be. It could be on the same level of hype as Dune or Game of Thrones S1-5, but its not and its sad. People will think the story was okay when in reality its pure perfection. The show is "fine" but it could be "perfect" with more budget and loyal writers, but NOW another adaptation attempt will likely never happen for at least 30 years, which you have to admit is sad.
@@lordlucas0392 is the show canceled or is stopping at s3 or something else?
@@vcuuuc6124 not that I know of. S3 was already confirmed before S2 released and did poorly. Unless S3 has an absolute comeback which I hope it does, this show is cooked. They have made improvements since season 1, but if they don’t stop actively ignoring Brandon Sandersons advice, this show will end after S3.
Because, if the showrunners wanted to tell their own story, they should do that. Come up with your own setting, world, etc and do it instead of bastardizing a story because it has a known name and a built in audience. That's what I never get about these loose adaptations where they just do what they want and coat it with the wrappings of the original story. If executives buy the rights to an IP and value it due to its name recognition with a built-in audience, why would you alter the story so heavily? This one is not as bad as Rings of Power on the bad adaptation scale, but too many unnecessary changes, imo. And yes, some of us would rather the show was done to a higher set of expectations than have been done at all.
That said, if you are enjoying it. Enjoy it. Why care if many of the rest of us are disappointed?
no show ever made would be like the books?
i mean, there 4 shows like Game of Thrones n Lord of the Rings. didn't they adapt correctly and the fans loved it? book fans n new fans alike.
what the book readers complain is that the story is sooo much more n is perfect, then why butcher it like this deviate from it that it seems a whole new story. bcz then the ones who've never read the books would think it's how the story is. but it isn't.
instead of introducing new plots n scenes, why not work with the original story?
I low key enjoyed seeing Morraine without her powers. She needed to go back to her roots, it humbled her in a way
Book fans always run for their lives to demean a show they could just not watch and ignore and then mock its fans. It’s depressing when the show is your first interaction with the universe and you find it compelling and interesting.
I love reading books, always have, and I hope I never get this entitled and bitter over an adaptation. No matter how much I loved the source material.
I read the first book when I was still in high school. I read them steadily as they were produced. The final book, I read overnight. All 945 pages.
I was looking forward to the series. But what we got was a woke, diversity hire, piece of crap. Visually stunning, but so much of the lore either trashed or tossed aside.
It's an insult and quite frankly, we're going to as vocal as we can about it.
Don't like it? Tough shit.
@@theirancase and point. imagine being this entitled because you read a book. sad, really.
@@Damodred_Heiress Imagine being such an uncultured heathen that you enjoy this hot garbage of a series.
Bless your heart...
They have so many amazing actors and actresses hobbled by such a horrific script and producers who not only don't understand the material, they don't want to.
Wheel of Time the series that is a garbage can fire. Instead of a dumpster fire, because the main characters have to share 1 brain cell among themselves. And you can easily tell who has that one cell at that time. The one person is not crying and has no lines to say.
Even dogs try to bury this show in the back yard.
Cats try to bury it in the litter box.
This scene was obviously written by someone who hasn't read the books, or someone who doesn't care about them at all.
I have read all the books in 3 different languages. I must have read through the series about 10 times throughout the years....
This show is GARBAGE.... A perfect "how not to make a show" guide for future generations...
Honestly, i did not think it was humanly possible to ruin a series to this extent, but it is Netflix's The Witcher all over again ..🤮
Disgusting
Thank you for comments, I don't think we needed to hear it though..now please get lost
@@azaglowilliam6072 why? Cause i do not blindly praise what in my eyes is such a bad creation of the best potential series ever written?
I am no cheep and you telling me to get lost is not 1% more valid than me telling the show runners to get lost.
@@azaglowilliam6072comments sections are literally just discussion forms. If you can't handle other people's opinions not mirroring yours I recommend you get off the Internet and into therapy.
Overall, the show isnt as good as the books. However, show Lanfear is actually better than book Lanfear.
@@Dman222000 considering how they killed perrin and replaced him with a fraud thats both married and independant, black and with a brand new never heard of personality, making a decent evil character was the very least they could have done.
The lesbian aunty moiraine with her ageless grannyface and her huge rock of a guardian "tiny asian lan" is also on point... They killed the series just with the cast alone.
Then they absolutely took a shit on every single page robert jordan ever wrote.
Why was egwene pushed down a waterfall exactly? Because the showrunners did not like twin river traditions and needed hollywood. Fuck hollywood.
Nyaeve.... Dont even get me started... And Mat.... Jeez...
But the worst of all is Rand.
Seems they were out of budget so they just hired some bloke of the street and gave him boots to almost look a little bit taller than average, a kids tattoo and a bad haircut.
They killed his persona, killed his character, killed his lines and gave him a new story.
His walk trough the forrest with his "dad" took all of 2 minutes as well. The night of struggle, horror and confusion was replaced with a trip to the neighbors house....
This became an unprofessional rant, but it is just what every actual fan ever is thinking....😅😭
We just wanted the best ever product it could be, and got this..
Jordan is turning in his grave.
I can't believe they're still throwing money at this dumpster fire. Can we at least stop calling it 'Wheel of Time' since less than 5% of what we see on screen actually happened in the books?
This show is an insult to the author(s) and to generations of fans.
You must be fun
So stop watching and enjoy your books. It’s not rocket science.
@@Damodred_Heiressu ate that
Holy shit i'm glad i never started watching this series, looks nothing like the books haha
Whatever TF this is, is not and has never been Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time.
Who writes this shit. I suggest they stick to the books - which are genius level
if only this show was half the books... wish they just stop
I think the show is great in my opinion if u read the book and hate show stick with the book and if you love the show stick with show stop trying to get the show canceled this is why I hate book adaptations with book purists
i mean, there r shows like Game of Thrones n Lord of the Rings. didn't they adapt correctly and the fans loved it? book fans n new fans alike.
what the book readers complain is that the story is sooo much more n is perfect, then why butcher it like this deviate from it that it seems a whole new story. bcz then the ones who've never read the books would think it's how the story is. but it isn't.
instead of introducing new plots n scenes, why not work with the original story?
like where on earth did the idea come from that waygates need channeling to open. they were created for the ogiers, and ogiers DO NOT channel.
why break the whole magic system just so they could give other characters big moments when they r not thiers.
This whole show is an abomination.
This series looks cheap af
The Wheel of time introduced the idea of Reincarnation by most of the chosen killed by Rand other than by Balefire!
The Trollics are humans that have been reincarnated into Trollics by the Darkness!
Rand is A 1000 times stronger than a Chosen one of Darkness in the Books!
Moraine has a Stronger Talent but she kills Lanfear by pulling her into a Red doorway to the Snakes and Foxes in Season 3!
But the Producers and Writers have moved very far from the books and I think it was a way for them to make some money!
Absolutely ruined the story. Shameful.
Why would you want the book to be the same as the show having all the knowledge of what comes next that would be boring a
awful
again cast moiraine is to be ageless but she looks old
Wow, this is bad.
This clip is all I've ever seen of the show, and it's not good. Bad acting, bad animation.
But the comment section is filled with people complaining about those of us who believe the books are better.
There's a reason why we get upset - same with other adaptations (LOTR, Shannara): If you're going to honour something by adapting it onto the screen, honour it by adapting it rather than belittling it by making demonstrably bad changes by comparison.
I'm absolutely not going to watch this tripe. But people who do watch and enjoy should similarly recognise the bastardisation of a genre classic for the sake of money and eyeballs.
Again this movie is junk. Follow the story in the books vs thinking you know better. So dissapointing on what is a great story that I have read 3 or more times end to end. I would cuss out these writers thinking they know better.
I hate the changes they made to he world and lore merely for the sake of including their top actress in this season. This entire story line of Moiraine being shielded and whatnot is entirely fabricated to give Pike something to do this season and justify her salary. And in order to do that they had to trash the magic system. Lan a warrior somehow knows about tied off weaves, and is the one who lets the other two know? Why? To justify Moiraine's belief that she's stilled instead of just shielded. A difference ANY channeler would know in the books. Any of them would know the difference. But to insert cheap drama into the story they made it so LAN knows more about the powers and weaves of ancient Aes Sedai then Moiraine does. Secondly Ishmael absolutely could have stilled a channeler as weak as Moiraine by himself no question. He's the second most powerful channeler in all of creation and all time. He could still Moiraine as easily as he shielded her in the abomination of a season 1 finale. Not only that but right after saying Ishmael couldn't still her alone "no one could". They immediately pretend Rand could do it accidentally because this is the WB apparently and fake drama is all these writers know how to write. But then above and beyond that Suian proves herself black Ajah here in this scene. Or at least that she's not bound by the oaths. She attacks Lan with the one power without any provocation unless she genuinely believes Moiraine and Lan are dark friends. But you'd have to be pretty daft to think she believes that.
This show does not work. The second season was absolutely terrible for the reason you see here. The revelations are not something mentioned as being relevant before.