Talking about Hawaii's culture is one of my favorite topics to talk about. And like I mentioned in the video, my favorite culture in Hawaii is Local culture. It's the culture I relate to the most and have the most fun thinking about.🤙
Aloha Chris.. I had to pause the video at 5:10. I'm Native Hawaiian and one doesn't need to be Native Hawaiian to speak on it. I have a friend that is Full Japanese, that lives and breathes the Hawaiian culture, speaks fluent Olelo, and is very active with Hawaiian traditions. I would listen to him more than some of my own family members🤙 And you're right.. there will be less talk online. And if they really did have an issue with you speaking about Hawaii.. they can make a UA-cam video themselves. Keep doing what your doing Chris. Gonna watch the rest of this video...👍🤙
Sean, thanks for the comment. I wish UA-cam brought back video replies like in the old days so that people could reply back to each other. Not yelling or cursing, but replying in thoughtful ways to continue the discussion beyond the comments. I've also suggested that people can make a response in a UA-cam video, but haven't gotten anyone to take me up on that yet 😆
You touched on the local humor, which I've noticed has changed also. The kind of humor that you and I grew up with is giving way in the face of "grievance" culture where people tend to take offense to anything that might be interpreted as an insult. Used to be that everyone learned to laugh at each other and, especially, themselves. Everything is taken so seriously nowadays that people aren't so willing to appreciate the quirks that we all have and learn to shrug off things that might offend us. We need to toughen up again, regain our sense of humor, and be secure that we all have so much more that's positive about our various cultures than the negative that is a part of us. Good thing I got to enjoy Frank DeLima and all the other comics of the 70s and 80s, and even later, who made all those ethnic jokes back in the day. I guess the radio stations can't play the Beamer Brothers' "Mr. San Cho Lee" song anymore, either. People should especially hear that one more than ever nowadays.
It's too bad that local humor has sort of suffered over the years. I also grew up with Frank DeLima and others and we used to just crack up laughing and not feel ashamed or guilty because we knew that our group was being laughed at too. Now, not so much.
Hawaii has been extremely expensive since Covid. From California, Mexico is about half the price. Historical grievances are happening around the world. Young people looking for a sense of purpose. You’re right about good and bad to any side. But the key to understanding, is conversations with all sides, not accusations from one side to another
Chris, I really enjoyed your plate lunch metaphor as a way to discuss the three cultures. Makes for a more understandable analysis and discussion. Having lived in Hawaii for a third of my life, I best fit into the local culture, although I've lived the rest of my life within the western culture here on the mainland. Like you, I can't speak on behalf of the Hawaiian culture with great credibility, but, having had Hawaiian friends, I have insights into that culture. One thing that has disturbed me the last two times I've been back is informed by the Hawaiian culture. That is, in particular, all the "development" in the Kaka'ako area of town. It disturbs me that the concept of the Ahupua'a was not taken into consideration. The Hawaiian concept of a land division that runs from the mountain to the sea (that is, of course, a very simplified explanation) is totally ignored when there is not even a visual corridor that runs from the mountains to the sea with all of the massive buildings that have been built up there. That kind of development destroys the sense of place of Hawaii. That area now looks like anyplace in a mainland US city. My feeling is "shame on the C&C for allowing this kind of development." It's way too western for what Hawaii should have. That is one instance where I think that their actually are conflicting interests between the cultures. They could perhaps have considered all three and found some kind of "middle ground" that took all of them into consideration.
Mahalo for the comment. Glad you also feel like you best fit in the local culture. In terms of the development in Kakaako, I believe the development is under state authority (HCDA). Living in Kakaako now, I've seen how much it can change in just a decade.
AMAZING! That is exactly what I love most about Hawaii! To me, I see that each island is very different but it makes one beautiful culture. Treat discussion that reminds me of how the mainland was 60 plus years ago. Immigrants settled together in towns bringing their native cultures and languages. It was a long time before the cultures intermingled. Thanks, nit certainly opened up a lot of new ways to look at it.😊
It wasn't like this in the 90s when I lived there. Nowadays all I hear is Hawaiian or Haole on the news or in comment sections. When I lived in Maui, I would say 70% if not more of the people I was surrounded by, at home, at work, in the neighborhood was Filipinos and Filipino mix. My landlord was Filipino. Most of those homes in Lahaina back then were large multi generational Filipinos. I saw them, I was in their houses, eating all kind good grinds. Pansit Bihon, Pinakbet, Halo Halo When I worked at the Hyatt on Maui for 12 years all my co-workers were Filipino. There were some Haloes now and then but mostly Filipinos. We rarely saw full Hawaiians. They were there, a lot of my friends are native too. They were typically some sort of Polynesian mix ,like portuguese hawaiian or something. Some were hapa-haole with a white father and hawaiian mother. So many mix kinds. Tongan, Portuguese, Filipino, Chinese, Japanese,Hawaiian etc. WAS who I was surrounded by living in Maui. Or some sort of mix of those. It wasn't just "haole or hawaiian". The news media today says things like "gentrification" or hawaiian vs. haole this and that. But it wasn't my experience living, working there etc. The culture for me was amazing when I lived there, I felt so much love and kindness come my way in all forms. The current news media social engineering propaganda has convinced people to think a certain way about Hawaii and I think it's not true. Sadly some of the younger locals buy the horseshit they see in the news. They then become a victim. There are also "pretend" Hawaiians, I've seen Filipinos fresh from the Philippines act like they're local or something, talking shit like their against the whitey. It's total B.S. We used to call them out all the time. Maui was the best experience I've ever had though, I wouldn't change a thing from that time. By the way my Uncle who lives in Maui calls them "slaps" for slippahs or flip flops. Brah I gotta get some da kine new slaps. Slippahs is common too.
Mahalo for sharing how you grew up on Maui. I can appreciate those days when things were so polarizing and we just got along more. These days, things seem to be more tense, more competitive. Not sure why. I've never heard slippers called "slaps", but the only time I heard that was when kids were misbehaving. "You like slaps?" 😆
@@HelloFromHawaii I remember local friends calling them "Jap slaps" sometimes. Sorry to those who are offended by that - not my intention. I'm just remembering what others used to say sometimes. I'm sure other old timers will remember that term. It was mostly used to refer to the cheap slippahs from Long's Drugs or similar ones.
There is a general issue that people from the mainland try to interpret the situation in Hawaii based on the model of historical structural racism on the mainland (I lived for about a decade in the deep south). Hawaii's complicated history results in a society that operates very differently. Ethnic jokes in Hawaii, for example, are more acceptable because we don't have the situation where one ethnic group so utterly dominates the wealth and power of the system that they can effectively oppress everyone else. Everyone and everything (at least on Oahu) are so mixed that we all live together in a sort of state of detente. Ever been to a Frank De Lima show? It's literally his whole act.
Excellent discussion of the different cultures in Hawaii. I was born and always lived in Hawaii so I relate most to local culture. I call the 48 states the mainland (local culture) and not the continent (western culture). I enjoy the variety of foods here. Potlucks are the best. Thank you for your channel and all the great videos.
Mahalo for the comment. I'm not sure where the term "continent" is from. Is that from Western culture or somewhere else? We never used that term growing up here.
I'm not sure where the word continent came from either. Never heard it growing up. Begun noticing it a few years ago being spoken by mainlanders. Now I notice one of our local news channels using it instead of the word mainland. Maybe a trend that is catching on....
@@susans3996Comes from the mindset that calling the United States our "mainland" is dishonoring our relationship to our ʻāina, and for Hawaiians, our country. You'll hear people say "brah, whatchu mean mainland? Hawaiʻis my mainland" So now people are consciously choosing to say the continent or the states in place of mainland, because many of us have no connection to the United States other than it's occupation of Hawaiʻi.
I love the song "Mr. Sun Cho Lee" by the Beamer Brothers. My local Generation Z kids give me a hard time because I love that song. I also think that Rap Reiplinger and Frank De Lima are hilarious! But I'm kupuna.
@@HelloFromHawaii My pleasure. I lived there for less than a year, so I don’t feel ‘qualified’ to comment on everything, but I always enjoy thinking about your posts. And trying to figure out where you are!
Great insight and perspective as always! I think we need to continue to have conversations like this to illicit communication and trust. Hawaii can be a tough place to grow up depending, unfortunately, on the color of your skin. Just as there is generational trauma, there is also generational racism and victimhood. Well done as always.
Mahalo for the comment. What you said is true that the experience in Hawaii, especially growing up, can be drastically different depending on the color of your skin.
Another great video, Brah! Perhaps you could interview a Kahu to explore the dynamics of this question from a Native Hawaiian perspective. I grew up in Maui, traveled the world, and returned to retire. On my return, one of the best things I did was to study with a local Kahu to understand the Kanaka Maoli perspective. I like your mixed-plate analogy, and to extend that, I'm a more "double mac salad, no rice" kind of guy. You might prefer rice and extra laulau. Just like when you sit down to a luau, sharing is caring.
Great perspective. Focusing on humor, a few years ago, before I saw Jo Koy on YT, I came across the Canadian-Indian comic Russel Peters. I found myself laughing uncontrollably at his ethnic humor. In a general sense, he's very funny and intelligent. I asked myself why I thought he was so funny. It dawned on me that I hadn't heard that type of "ethnic" humor since growing up in Hawaii, starting with Booga Booga back in the '70s (Territorial Tavern days!). It is holding up a mirror to our own quirks, but also very personal to our experiences and how we grew up. Anyway, terrific videos. Always thought-provoking.
- Cultures: You make a good point about culture. In my view, the local people who 'embrace' the varying cultures are the ones that will go pretty far in life. Fighting, battling and blaming 'conflicting' cultures can only take someone so far. Opposing it is like pushing a door to open it, when it clearly states 'pull'. Striking a balance is the key in the 21st century. - Mixed Plate: You are so true about the melding of culture, and it's reflection on local culture. Local plantation workers used to mix their selections up with one another to create variety when eating lunch. Current local residents need to embrace that part of our past, as we can expand going forward as a local culture. - Local bias: The sad part is that there's a culture of blaming anyone not of Hawaii for a good amount of the island's problems. Violence, finances, real estate, local cost of living, etc... - Slippers: when I went to live on the mainland, it was called 'shower clogs'; and pretty much used for taking a shower in public places.
Great points. I especially like your door analogy and local bias point. It's sad that there is that culture. Maybe something I can talk about in another video. 🤙
@@HelloFromHawaii When I first came back to Hawaii, after a decade of 'mainland- influence', My father gave me a bit of advice. He said to not talk about the mainland, as Hawaii people are proud and don't want other cultures thrown in their faces. Even though it may be a better way of doing something, they will feel the arrogance of the suggestion. So over time, I was told to make it seem as though the idea came 'locally', to make them feel like they were part of the idea. After all, if the result is what we're after, then where it comes from doesn't matter. A little thought about your previous video on Kapi'olani nurses strike, I wanted to know what were your thoughts about my comment? Which to me what is happening could've been avoided.
Very interesting talk about the three cultures. They clash at times, even on the mainland, Asian and western culture especially. Thanks for the food for thought.
I also experienced that clashing of cultures when I was on the mainland. Lots of great literature about that very thing. Used some of it in my graduate thesis 😄
Love that discussion here in French Polynesia we are already a country full of diversities when it comes to culture there's the local culture there are 10 native cultures and 5 foreign cultures in it French American Spanish Chinese and Japanese but the melting pot in French Polynesia is mostly Chinese and Japanese Polynesian✨✨I love your discussion and I think we can see the same situation here in French Polynesia but mostly in Tahiti since it's the capital island✨✨but great video that was interesting✨✨ iaorana from French Polynesia 🇵🇫❤️❤️
I love your metaphor about Western culture being the plate lunch container. Woulda referred to it for a paper I had to write for a UH course about "living in a colonized space" if I'd seen this on Monday, when the paper was due. :) Coincidentally, the title of my paper was "Navigation and Negotiation" so I was stoked to hear your references to those two elements of living here, and how it is always in flux.
Pretty much every difference you mentioned - sandals, rice, etc. are regional variations on the same culture. It's thinking differently, looking at the world differently, that makes a culture. The differences mentioned are less extreme then the differences from the north western part of the mainland from the south east part of the mainland, yet no one is claiming those are different cultures. They are both simply regional variations on the same culture. You mention "inclusive", "organic", 'capitalism', 'individuallism' etc, all words associated with the current common woke ideology. And that's hard to avoid these days, especially coming from a work educational background, surrounded by adherents of such. Unless the definition of culture has changed, nothing mentioned makes an actual different culture... though maybe I'm wrong, maybe culture now is defined from such minutia.
I really like your plate lunch metaphor. Everything in local culture is always changing. Not just the obvious things like technology, even our local language keeps changing. The pidgin my dad spoke is not the same pidgin I speak. And I'm definitely not speaking the pidgin kids speak today. We have to embrace the future without forgetting our past. All our cultures are constantly changing whether we like it or not.
The internet and now AI are becoming more toxic everyday and are ruining the world. I agree that cultures are changing, but it's not for the better it seems. It's for the worse, leading up to Skynet.
I just finished an interesting read I think you personally should get, perhaps already have; Ghosts of Honolulu by Mark Harmon & Leon Carroll Jr. It deals with events leading up to the attack on Dec. 7th, the Japanese Consulate in Honolulu at the time, Japanese spies and Japanese American spy hunters. Pretty fascinating little-known story well presented. More importantly what comes out of it very quickly and early on, the very strong influence of the Japanese Issei and Nisei in Hawaii, particularly in Honolulu pre- war. As you know, Japanese workers were recruited and settled in the islands originally brought over by the Hawaiian Monarchy. Nearly half of the islands residents on Dec. 7th were of Japanese ancestry so by that time the number of actual "Native Hawaiians" was already at record low numbers. It makes a big difference in the current discussions of Native Rights, the Sovereignty Movement, etc. to realize this subject goes far deeper than a Mainlander or Haole vs. native Hawaiian conflict. So amend your preface to include Eastern or Asian Culture as well.
Aloha, Similar native and local culture ideology for mainland resistance has existed in island of Puerto Rico for years… PR and Hawaii were both invaded in 1898, and in 1959 PR became a common wealth, HI became a state. Historical resistance on Vieques and Roosevelt Roads Naval Station contamination and bombings.
This was a very enlightened video. Great way of explaining our lifestyle and as you stated culture. I think over the last 2 decades maybe more, respect has been lost and with social media multiplied. Bringing out the worse vs better. That's what we've lost here in the islands and now more separation vs inclusion or learning from each other. Simplicity lost to the more complex?
I do agree that some of that respect has been lost. Not sure if it's just an overall cultural shift in the US or something that is directly a result of social media, or both.
I really appreciated this video, well done! I’ve got so many friends who cross all culture boundaries on Oahu and it’s amazing how most everybody just wants to get along and wants to be judged for their own individual behaviors. I think the problem has been the damn media and politicians who’ve tried to divide us into groups for their own ideological and financial interests. In the end we are all Americans and all want our country to be free, prosperous and safe. We’ve always been a nation of different cultures and races and beliefs and we are strong when we throw all that into the big melting pot and together become better versions of our self. Diversity becoming unity is our strength. Mahalo!
Well said. I do believe the media, including social media, has started to polarize certain groups. It's too bad because, like you said, we just all want to get along.
Pretty good video. Over the years, local culture, Native Hawaiian culture like is mentioned depending on who's describing it and who's receiving the message is used interchangeably, separately depending to who they think is the receiver of the message both publicly and privately. Media, sensitivity, personal bias all play a role in the transmission of the message along with the speaker and the listener. I would add to individual private desires as another motivating unclear factor. People all have their desires of what they want, as well as what they are willing to do. Are they really honest about those things when regarding issues that affect everyone? Someone can say they want clean oceans, land but are they willing to work themselves to clean the land/waters? Or do they leave it for someone else? When there's a function at someone's house, do they all participate in bringing and cleaning up? All the TMT protesters make noise about the TMT. Did they clean up the land that they protested on? Or just leave? Our politics, people complain about the politicians, but would they run for office? Determining if the validity of something, a person, a cause, takes work. Not for one instance but perpetual to ensure the integrity of it and the ones doing it, are true. When the islands were discovered and sea captains discovered sandalwood was in the islands, whose idea was to harvest it and who benefited from it? When the Hawaiian royalty gave land away to the people that they liked, why wasn't it doled out to the commoners as well? When people who own property now, they sell it to the highest bidder, but it's not to the young local families that desire to start out. Wanting the land protected that someone's else job to care for/do. Those volunteers in organizations doing the arduous work of restoring woodlands, ancient sites, fishponds, keeping traditional culture/practices alive and running now those people, are doing the demanding work, which means being involved on a regular basis. We worry about the cultural aspect of a mountain but not any other part of the islands. The other mountains, the seas, the wetlands, the water, the economy of the islands for people to have food, water to management our trash and waste water? We don't live on the mountain, but we do live on the lands that we use. Our trash, our fallow lands/roads where people dump their waste. The local culture and Native Hawaiians are slightly different, but most of the local culture includes the Native Hawaiians as well. Are the Native Hawaiian community saying the trash is all done by non-Hawaiians?
Great comment. So many things I agree with that I wish I could expound on in a video. But just to touch on one point you made, I do agree that it takes work and that's the determining factor, to me, to see if people really care about an issue. Talk is easy to do, even on this UA-cam channel. It's much harder to do something about it through actions.
There is no seperate native Hawaiian culture. There used to be. Not anymore. They go to the same schools (or schools structured the same) , listen to the same radio stations, watch the same TV shows, drive the same cars, grow up for all intents and purposes as anyone else, etc. There are some remnents of when there actually was a unique culture, but they are few and a grasping at the past for some semblance of proud 'difference.' And that sameness is fine, that's normal, and inevitable. The information age. You ask the English and Scottish if they are the same, but they take offense and are ready to fight, but for the rest of the world looking in they are the same. There are cultures in the world significantly different from 'western' culture, but native Hawaiians aren't it. The Hawaiians from before contact, which definitely were a unique group, would see no significant difference in how the current native Hawaiians, locals non-native, and visitors act and live. Though keep rockin' that ideology if it makes you feel good.
I'm on the mainland in the midwest, the first time I attended a neighbors party they kept their shoes on and practice something called "Bring your own beer" which is absurd 😂😂😂
Road to any culture should strive to be a two way road. Understanding all points of view. The mixed plate example works well when all the food is at least tried (understood). But I have seen many refuse just because of how it looks or feels. Their lose. I try to understand your culture and hope you try to understand mine, then we all win.
Sadly Red Vs Blue (Dem vs GOP) Right Vs Left has divided the entire country, and the world it seems. If only we could all meet at Hanalei bay and party.
Great point. Sometimes we don't try things because of aethetics and how they seem to initially make us feel. I'm guilty of this too. It just takes time and a willingness to chance 'um and then we can start gaining empathy through understanding.
Timestamp 14:35....inspired by your Freudian slip of the word "negotiation" cause obviously for me in light of other news events, I've been grappling out loud the reconciliation of differing conflicts or competing interests. It triggered memories of chemistry class and biology class and physics class in understanding liquid SOLUTIONS. The word I think most aptly and poetically captures the idea is from a biological perspective: HOMEOSTASIS: a dynamic balancing that is not static maintained, managed, regulated by processes ...in response/push back to constant changes in the environment...I suppose for people who are conflict avoidant, there is the mistaken idea that reconciliation or solutions can finally bring an end to conflict/dispute/....change...herein lies the fallacy in logic...as change...culture...people keep changing...and can the systems change as dynamically as well...mahalo for the light bulb moment in real time.
I moved here 3 months ago and I love it - I had to live in Waikiki for the people (even though it's mostly tourists). I do love the Hawaiian people and the mixing and matching and mixing and matching again. And I think it's because of the US Military who is the biggest employer in Hawaii - Tourism is second. I feel very sad for the for the tourists who have to leave the most perfect place on earth.
You're nor from my generation but you explained us well. We are evolving but I'm afraid we are being shaped by outside influence such as the "Media" when it should be the other way around. We learned to live with each other on our own, and Hawaii became the real melting pot even before becoming a US state . We should be the rule and not the exception. The Aloha Spirit was born from all of us and tourist had a big part of it wink wink "hula shows at the Waikiki Shell". I dont think the Mainland can ever go through the growing that went through which is the hard work ethic of the migrants and Hawaiians , to better ourselves, extra extra respect to our elders and to basic respect for others and their property(mango trees ;) ) Today our humor is checked , We are forced to like each other(not earned) , and their is a lot less accountability or self shame. ps. My ancestors arrived in 1924 , Thank you to the Hawaiian's for being hospitable and even bearing with us Filipinos Aloha
There is also a micro vs macro level. What about Asia vs Pacific Rim vs Western Culture influences. Or American Indians vs Local? vs Melting Pot Culture You see similar in other countries... Maori in New Zealand Tibetan in China How does growing up in Hong Kong feel studying British history, then change to China influences with a Melting pot of cultures. Interesting topic
That's a great point about micro vs macro-level influences. Like I mentioned, I'm no sociologist and I'm sure there are great papers in the UH stacks about this topic. Maybe I'll read some of them someday 😄
The idea that you shouldn’t speak on Hawaii unless you’re Kanaka is nonsense since the Constitution of the Kingdom of Hawaii says you don’t need to be Kanaka to be part of the Hawaiian Kingdom. I am Kanaka btw. It’s just the truth
When you separated native culture from local it reminded me of natives in America. Should we honor people that took care of things before we came like grandparents? Maybe. Maybe some nowadays don’t even honor their elders. But maybe that would be a good practice. If their ethnicity is still alive they made a choice at some point to share what they had instead of fighting to their death to keep you from it, the thing you want. They should be respected for that.
I feel like most people in Hawaii tend to lean towards the middle. It's unfortunate that the only news outside of Hawaii is the extremes. I guess that is news.
The outside media _always_ portray Hawaii as a tropical PARADISE. It's da Local media that tells otherwise: ua-cam.com/video/lylMgVWklDs/v-deo.html&ab_channel=IslandNews ua-cam.com/video/RO_Vfv99WSQ/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/IIO4FkNBYsk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HawaiiNewsNow
Yeah, the middle or moderate view doesn't get as many clicks because, well, it seems so much more relatable. The outer fringes allow for more intriguing titles and images.
lol plate lunch 😅😅😅 all I know if that plate lunch is hamburger steak 🥩 I could care less of the box that’s holding it together! I always get my gallon size ziploc bag so the gravy NO spill 😊
@@michaelespinosa9168 Agreed. Now go lecture the admin of Harvard, Columbia, Disney, Southwest Airlines, Boeing, ad agencies, State govs, the Taliban, Turks, Gulf States . . .
Think on this. Hawaii has committed to become the 50th State. Unfortunately for all the myriad of cultures living in the State, this means that you have to embrace the Constitution of the United States of America, in its entirety. Think on this first.
Not to risk coming off as a narcissist, but you’re clearly (imo) referencing my comment to you on the John Oliver reaction video you did & so I feel I deserve a rebuttal to this video and hope you will actually listen this time, because I truly feel you have failed to do so in the past (not only my last comment, but others previously too)…. So to start, I NEVER said you have no right to talk about HAWAI’i, you’re welcome to (although I will go into detail about that later), however John Oliver’s video was NOT about Hawai’i, it was about the effects, mostly of the US, on NATIVE HAWAIIANS SPECIFICALLY, he literally mentions NATIVE HAWAIIANS by name and topics such as Native Hawaiian groups trying to help in various ways in Lāhainā, the unlawful overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom & its affect on Native Hawaiians, kuleana lands being stollen (something specific to Native Hawaiians) and Hawaiians on homestead waitlists. These are Hawaiian specific topics, yet you made a video portraying yourself as a victim or bilateral sufferer of Native Hawaiian specific issues. In that video, you mentioned how you were happy that Hawai’i got the spotlight because it so seldom does… but it wasn’t Hawai’i getting the spotlight, it was Native Hawaiians getting the spotlight… if Hawai’i issues seldom get a global spotlight, imagine how much MORE rare it is for Native Hawaiians to get a global spotlight… and you stole that spotlight for yourself when you had no right to do so, because you’re not Hawaiian and not the topic or victim of the issues he brought up. THAT was my issue with that video.
Mahalo for the comment. I appreciate the discussion and sorry if you felt that I was singling out your comment. When I stated that there are some who believe that only Native Hawaiians can talk about Hawaii, it's from a vast number of comments I've received over the years and also what I read on social media comments. I actually thought that the John Oliver video was more about Hawaii, rather than about Native Hawaiians. Maybe that's just how I saw it, per the title and ultimately the conclusion of the video. In the solutions provided toward the end of the video, I interpreted those suggestions as bettering the state as a whole and not necessarily the Native Hawaiian community. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's how I viewed that. Again, I appreciate the discussion through the comments. Mahalo for watching 🤙
Enjoyed the video but the reference of using western culture as the plate to gain better understanding of Hawaii diversity to me comes across as promoting western superiority. Just saying. No culture is superior. All cultures are a combination of different families/tribes etc which naturally creates diversity and therefore we will have to learn from each other to build a community and from that we build a nation, state etc. My point is there is no such thing as pop culture or a superior culture in the world. We shouldn't strive for that. Loving Diversity makes the world go round. But to be fair to you there is only so much you can communicate in a short UA-cam video that is discussing a complex issue. The most important thing is where you heart really is in what your trying to communicate. I'm always trying to listen to your heart and where your coming from more than your video commentary. Peace and Aloha.
Rise above the negative. This is a State in America and has its own uniqueness. Be a good person everywhere on the planet and you'll get along with 99% of people.
It's one of the reasons I decided not to move to Hawaii. My cousin there experiences racism all the time, as a white woman. She'll go into a grocery store and the Native Hawaiian cashier will completely ignore her and call another Native Hawaiian customer standing behind her up to the checkout line instead. She complained to the manager, who did nothing. My guess is maybe it's like with blacks here on the mainland - you're not allowed to criticize them or hold them accountable, otherwise you're a racist. They also would call her "tuna", which I've been told basically means sl*t out there? Anyway, decided it wasn't worth the trouble to uproot my life and have it not work out well. I actually think it would be a great thing if Hawai'i became a sovereign nation again, in a "free association" with the US. Might calm tensions down a lot more.
Mahalo for sharing. Sorry to hear that things didn't work out. And just know that what your cousin experienced should not be the norm. If it were me, I'd take my business somewhere else.
From a Mainlander perspective, Hawaii is two-faced. You fake smile when we arrive because you need our tourism money/business. Without us, you would not survive… period. The pandemic should have taught Hawaii an important lesson on economic tourism! Then you backstab us when we leave and complain non-stop that we are destroying the land/culture/whatever. But you don’t do that to tourists from other countries (Japan, Canada, Europe, etc), just the “mainlanders”. Why is that? Discrimination much?
I understand your point. There is a certain sentiment of that. However, I hope you know that not everyone acts or thinks like that. Most locals know and remember how things were and how the economy operates here.
It's hilarious, I can care less if the locals or people don't want main land state residents or not, If I want to move and live in Hawaii I will and I could care less what the "locals" think...this is America whether they like or not.
Try to move to O'ahu with that attitude, and you won't be truly accepted unless it's by other transplants with that same attitude. You will be labeled as a stupid haole.
@@plynn136 He has great videos with a great first hand perspective, everyone will get pushed out by people with more money, anywhere in the world. Cultures collide, long gone are original cultures, glad they keep them alive but no need for animosity to people that have nothing to do with their history.
I mean this is all nice and dandy but does our opinion even matter? should we be hearing this same topic from a indigenous hawaiian rather than whatever mix plate you are? genuine question
I think the discussion is important. The more perspectives there are, the better understanding we can all have, which, I hope, leads to more empathy, even when we disagree.
Talking about Hawaii's culture is one of my favorite topics to talk about. And like I mentioned in the video, my favorite culture in Hawaii is Local culture. It's the culture I relate to the most and have the most fun thinking about.🤙
Aloha Chris.. I had to pause the video at 5:10. I'm Native Hawaiian and one doesn't need to be Native Hawaiian to speak on it. I have a friend that is Full Japanese, that lives and breathes the Hawaiian culture, speaks fluent Olelo, and is very active with Hawaiian traditions. I would listen to him more than some of my own family members🤙 And you're right.. there will be less talk online. And if they really did have an issue with you speaking about Hawaii.. they can make a UA-cam video themselves. Keep doing what your doing Chris. Gonna watch the rest of this video...👍🤙
Sean, thanks for the comment. I wish UA-cam brought back video replies like in the old days so that people could reply back to each other. Not yelling or cursing, but replying in thoughtful ways to continue the discussion beyond the comments. I've also suggested that people can make a response in a UA-cam video, but haven't gotten anyone to take me up on that yet 😆
You're awesome. Subscribed to your channel.
I just hope that we never lose our collective sense of Aloha Spirit. 🌈
You touched on the local humor, which I've noticed has changed also. The kind of humor that you and I grew up with is giving way in the face of "grievance" culture where people tend to take offense to anything that might be interpreted as an insult. Used to be that everyone learned to laugh at each other and, especially, themselves. Everything is taken so seriously nowadays that people aren't so willing to appreciate the quirks that we all have and learn to shrug off things that might offend us. We need to toughen up again, regain our sense of humor, and be secure that we all have so much more that's positive about our various cultures than the negative that is a part of us. Good thing I got to enjoy Frank DeLima and all the other comics of the 70s and 80s, and even later, who made all those ethnic jokes back in the day. I guess the radio stations can't play the Beamer Brothers' "Mr. San Cho Lee" song anymore, either. People should especially hear that one more than ever nowadays.
It's too bad that local humor has sort of suffered over the years. I also grew up with Frank DeLima and others and we used to just crack up laughing and not feel ashamed or guilty because we knew that our group was being laughed at too. Now, not so much.
Hawaii has been extremely expensive since Covid. From California, Mexico is about half the price. Historical grievances are happening around the world. Young people looking for a sense of purpose. You’re right about good and bad to any side. But the key to understanding, is conversations with all sides, not accusations from one side to another
I grew up in Hilo 60-74. I was one supha local haoli. Live in East Coast for 50 years. Miss the old hawaii
Chris, I really enjoyed your plate lunch metaphor as a way to discuss the three cultures. Makes for a more understandable analysis and discussion.
Having lived in Hawaii for a third of my life, I best fit into the local culture, although I've lived the rest of my life within the western culture here on the mainland. Like you, I can't speak on behalf of the Hawaiian culture with great credibility, but, having had Hawaiian friends, I have insights into that culture.
One thing that has disturbed me the last two times I've been back is informed by the Hawaiian culture. That is, in particular, all the "development" in the Kaka'ako area of town. It disturbs me that the concept of the Ahupua'a was not taken into consideration. The Hawaiian concept of a land division that runs from the mountain to the sea (that is, of course, a very simplified explanation) is totally ignored when there is not even a visual corridor that runs from the mountains to the sea with all of the massive buildings that have been built up there. That kind of development destroys the sense of place of Hawaii. That area now looks like anyplace in a mainland US city. My feeling is "shame on the C&C for allowing this kind of development." It's way too western for what Hawaii should have. That is one instance where I think that their actually are conflicting interests between the cultures. They could perhaps have considered all three and found some kind of "middle ground" that took all of them into consideration.
Mahalo for the comment. Glad you also feel like you best fit in the local culture. In terms of the development in Kakaako, I believe the development is under state authority (HCDA). Living in Kakaako now, I've seen how much it can change in just a decade.
You explain Hawaiis culture very well -I will use this knowledge to explain to people I meet when I travel outside the US
Thank you. Glad the video was helpful 🤙
AMAZING! That is exactly what I love most about Hawaii! To me, I see that each island is very different but it makes one beautiful culture. Treat discussion that reminds me of how the mainland was 60 plus years ago. Immigrants settled together in towns bringing their native cultures and languages. It was a long time before the cultures intermingled. Thanks, nit certainly opened up a lot of new ways to look at it.😊
Great point about the different islands. Each island has its own subculture. My favorite is Kauai. 🤙
@@HelloFromHawaii and my favorite is the big island!
It wasn't like this in the 90s when I lived there. Nowadays all I hear is Hawaiian or Haole on the news or in comment sections.
When I lived in Maui, I would say 70% if not more of the people I was surrounded by, at home, at work, in the neighborhood was Filipinos and Filipino mix. My landlord was Filipino.
Most of those homes in Lahaina back then were large multi generational Filipinos. I saw them, I was in their houses, eating all kind good grinds. Pansit Bihon, Pinakbet, Halo Halo
When I worked at the Hyatt on Maui for 12 years all my co-workers were Filipino. There were some Haloes now and then but mostly Filipinos.
We rarely saw full Hawaiians. They were there, a lot of my friends are native too. They were typically some sort of Polynesian mix ,like portuguese hawaiian or something. Some were hapa-haole with a white father and hawaiian mother. So many mix kinds.
Tongan, Portuguese, Filipino, Chinese, Japanese,Hawaiian etc. WAS who I was surrounded by living in Maui. Or some sort of mix of those. It wasn't just "haole or hawaiian". The news media today says things like "gentrification" or hawaiian vs. haole this and that. But it wasn't my experience living, working there etc.
The culture for me was amazing when I lived there, I felt so much love and kindness come my way in all forms.
The current news media social engineering propaganda has convinced people to think a certain way about Hawaii and I think it's not true. Sadly some of the younger locals buy the horseshit they see in the news. They then become a victim.
There are also "pretend" Hawaiians, I've seen Filipinos fresh from the Philippines act like they're local or something, talking shit like their against the whitey. It's total B.S.
We used to call them out all the time.
Maui was the best experience I've ever had though, I wouldn't change a thing from that time.
By the way my Uncle who lives in Maui calls them "slaps" for slippahs or flip flops.
Brah I gotta get some da kine new slaps.
Slippahs is common too.
Man the Filipino “pretend Hawaiian” thing is massive and they laugh at being able to pull it off.
Mahalo for sharing how you grew up on Maui. I can appreciate those days when things were so polarizing and we just got along more. These days, things seem to be more tense, more competitive. Not sure why.
I've never heard slippers called "slaps", but the only time I heard that was when kids were misbehaving. "You like slaps?" 😆
@@HelloFromHawaii I remember local friends calling them "Jap slaps" sometimes. Sorry to those who are offended by that - not my intention. I'm just remembering what others used to say sometimes. I'm sure other old timers will remember that term. It was mostly used to refer to the cheap slippahs from Long's Drugs or similar ones.
YOU GOT IT RIGHT BRADAH..FROM ONE LOCAL TO THE OTHER..Mahalo Nui Loa
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Brah! Keep talking about plate lunches just make me hungry!! 😆 Mahalo, well done video!
Yeah, I was getting hungry too 😆
There is a general issue that people from the mainland try to interpret the situation in Hawaii based on the model of historical structural racism on the mainland (I lived for about a decade in the deep south). Hawaii's complicated history results in a society that operates very differently. Ethnic jokes in Hawaii, for example, are more acceptable because we don't have the situation where one ethnic group so utterly dominates the wealth and power of the system that they can effectively oppress everyone else. Everyone and everything (at least on Oahu) are so mixed that we all live together in a sort of state of detente. Ever been to a Frank De Lima show? It's literally his whole act.
Great point in the differences between mainland and Hawaii culture. And yes, Frank DeLima's show is all about that type of humor and I love it. 😆
“Don’t come to Hawaii”: message driven home for decades for anyone thinking to visit. No worries, holistic message received and I’m not coming.
Excellent discussion of the different cultures in Hawaii. I was born and always lived in Hawaii so I relate most to local culture. I call the 48 states the mainland (local culture) and not the continent (western culture). I enjoy the variety of foods here. Potlucks are the best.
Thank you for your channel and all the great videos.
Mahalo for the comment. I'm not sure where the term "continent" is from. Is that from Western culture or somewhere else? We never used that term growing up here.
I'm not sure where the word continent came from either. Never heard it growing up. Begun noticing it a few years ago being spoken by mainlanders. Now I notice one of our local news channels using it instead of the word mainland. Maybe a trend that is catching on....
@@susans3996Comes from the mindset that calling the United States our "mainland" is dishonoring our relationship to our ʻāina, and for Hawaiians, our country. You'll hear people say "brah, whatchu mean mainland? Hawaiʻis my mainland"
So now people are consciously choosing to say the continent or the states in place of mainland, because many of us have no connection to the United States other than it's occupation of Hawaiʻi.
@kaimaluharmon1150 Thank you for sharing that. I learn something new every day.
I love the song "Mr. Sun Cho Lee" by the Beamer Brothers. My local Generation Z kids give me a hard time because I love that song. I also think that Rap Reiplinger and Frank De Lima are hilarious! But I'm kupuna.
I miss those comedians. So many good laughs. We used to watch the tapes all the time.
Ooo, plate lunch analogy is excellent! Thanks for that perspective
Thought provoking, as always. Thanks.
Thanks for watching 🤙
@@HelloFromHawaii My pleasure. I lived there for less than a year, so I don’t feel ‘qualified’ to comment on everything, but I always enjoy thinking about your posts. And trying to figure out where you are!
Great insight and perspective as always! I think we need to continue to have conversations like this to illicit communication and trust. Hawaii can be a tough place to grow up depending, unfortunately, on the color of your skin. Just as there is generational trauma, there is also generational racism and victimhood. Well done as always.
Mahalo for the comment. What you said is true that the experience in Hawaii, especially growing up, can be drastically different depending on the color of your skin.
Another great video, Brah! Perhaps you could interview a Kahu to explore the dynamics of this question from a Native Hawaiian perspective. I grew up in Maui, traveled the world, and returned to retire. On my return, one of the best things I did was to study with a local Kahu to understand the Kanaka Maoli perspective. I like your mixed-plate analogy, and to extend that, I'm a more "double mac salad, no rice" kind of guy. You might prefer rice and extra laulau. Just like when you sit down to a luau, sharing is caring.
Yeah, I would love to interview someone that could provide a grounded Native Hawaiian perspective.
And double mac salad? 😆
Great perspective. Focusing on humor, a few years ago, before I saw Jo Koy on YT, I came across the Canadian-Indian comic Russel Peters. I found myself laughing uncontrollably at his ethnic humor. In a general sense, he's very funny and intelligent. I asked myself why I thought he was so funny. It dawned on me that I hadn't heard that type of "ethnic" humor since growing up in Hawaii, starting with Booga Booga back in the '70s (Territorial Tavern days!). It is holding up a mirror to our own quirks, but also very personal to our experiences and how we grew up. Anyway, terrific videos. Always thought-provoking.
- Cultures: You make a good point about culture. In my view, the local people who 'embrace' the varying cultures are the ones that will go pretty far in life. Fighting, battling and blaming 'conflicting' cultures can only take someone so far. Opposing it is like pushing a door to open it, when it clearly states 'pull'. Striking a balance is the key in the 21st century.
- Mixed Plate: You are so true about the melding of culture, and it's reflection on local culture. Local plantation workers used to mix their selections up with one another to create variety when eating lunch. Current local residents need to embrace that part of our past, as we can expand going forward as a local culture.
- Local bias: The sad part is that there's a culture of blaming anyone not of Hawaii for a good amount of the island's problems. Violence, finances, real estate, local cost of living, etc...
- Slippers: when I went to live on the mainland, it was called 'shower clogs'; and pretty much used for taking a shower in public places.
Great points. I especially like your door analogy and local bias point. It's sad that there is that culture. Maybe something I can talk about in another video. 🤙
@@HelloFromHawaii When I first came back to Hawaii, after a decade of 'mainland- influence', My father gave me a bit of advice. He said to not talk about the mainland, as Hawaii people are proud and don't want other cultures thrown in their faces. Even though it may be a better way of doing something, they will feel the arrogance of the suggestion. So over time, I was told to make it seem as though the idea came 'locally', to make them feel like they were part of the idea. After all, if the result is what we're after, then where it comes from doesn't matter.
A little thought about your previous video on Kapi'olani nurses strike, I wanted to know what were your thoughts about my comment? Which to me what is happening could've been avoided.
Very interesting talk about the three cultures. They clash at times, even on the mainland, Asian and western culture especially. Thanks for the food for thought.
I also experienced that clashing of cultures when I was on the mainland. Lots of great literature about that very thing. Used some of it in my graduate thesis 😄
Love that discussion here in French Polynesia we are already a country full of diversities when it comes to culture there's the local culture there are 10 native cultures and 5 foreign cultures in it French American Spanish Chinese and Japanese but the melting pot in French Polynesia is mostly Chinese and Japanese Polynesian✨✨I love your discussion and I think we can see the same situation here in French Polynesia but mostly in Tahiti since it's the capital island✨✨but great video that was interesting✨✨ iaorana from French Polynesia 🇵🇫❤️❤️
Mahalo for sharing. I had no idea that there was so much diversity in French Polynesia. 🤙
I love your metaphor about Western culture being the plate lunch container. Woulda referred to it for a paper I had to write for a UH course about "living in a colonized space" if I'd seen this on Monday, when the paper was due. :) Coincidentally, the title of my paper was "Navigation and Negotiation" so I was stoked to hear your references to those two elements of living here, and how it is always in flux.
Pretty much every difference you mentioned - sandals, rice, etc. are regional variations on the same culture. It's thinking differently, looking at the world differently, that makes a culture. The differences mentioned are less extreme then the differences from the north western part of the mainland from the south east part of the mainland, yet no one is claiming those are different cultures. They are both simply regional variations on the same culture. You mention "inclusive", "organic", 'capitalism', 'individuallism' etc, all words associated with the current common woke ideology. And that's hard to avoid these days, especially coming from a work educational background, surrounded by adherents of such. Unless the definition of culture has changed, nothing mentioned makes an actual different culture... though maybe I'm wrong, maybe culture now is defined from such minutia.
I really like your plate lunch metaphor. Everything in local culture is always changing. Not just the obvious things like technology, even our local language keeps changing. The pidgin my dad spoke is not the same pidgin I speak. And I'm definitely not speaking the pidgin kids speak today. We have to embrace the future without forgetting our past. All our cultures are constantly changing whether we like it or not.
The internet and now AI are becoming more toxic everyday and are ruining the world. I agree that cultures are changing, but it's not for the better it seems. It's for the worse, leading up to Skynet.
Mahalo for the insightful comment. What kind of pidgin are the kids speaking these days? I'm getting old and cannot keep up 😅
I just finished an interesting read I think you personally should get, perhaps already have; Ghosts of Honolulu by Mark Harmon & Leon Carroll Jr. It deals with events leading up to the attack on Dec. 7th, the Japanese Consulate in Honolulu at the time, Japanese spies and Japanese American spy hunters. Pretty fascinating little-known story well presented. More importantly what comes out of it very quickly and early on, the very strong influence of the Japanese Issei and Nisei in Hawaii, particularly in Honolulu pre- war. As you know, Japanese workers were recruited and settled in the islands originally brought over by the Hawaiian Monarchy. Nearly half of the islands residents on Dec. 7th were of Japanese ancestry so by that time the number of actual "Native Hawaiians" was already at record low numbers. It makes a big difference in the current discussions of Native Rights, the Sovereignty Movement, etc. to realize this subject goes far deeper than a Mainlander or Haole vs. native Hawaiian conflict. So amend your preface to include Eastern or Asian Culture as well.
He's not gonna do that, so you'll have to make and upload your own videos.
Mahalo for the recommendation. I'll borrow it from the library. I've been into a history phase recently. Been enjoying 1177 BC.
Thank you Chris , you explained it very well . Much appreciated . Mahalo !!
One of your best, Braddah! 🤙🏼
Thanks 🤙
Aloha,
Similar native and local culture ideology for mainland resistance has existed in island of Puerto Rico for years…
PR and Hawaii were both invaded in 1898, and in 1959 PR became a common wealth, HI became a state.
Historical resistance on Vieques and Roosevelt Roads Naval Station contamination and bombings.
Thanks for sharing that about Puerto Rico. Interesting that we have some things in common 🤙
This was a very enlightened video. Great way of explaining our lifestyle and as you stated culture. I think over the last 2 decades maybe more, respect has been lost and with social media multiplied. Bringing out the worse vs better. That's what we've lost here in the islands and now more separation vs inclusion or learning from each other. Simplicity lost to the more complex?
I do agree that some of that respect has been lost. Not sure if it's just an overall cultural shift in the US or something that is directly a result of social media, or both.
@@HelloFromHawaii I would say both.
I really appreciated this video, well done! I’ve got so many friends who cross all culture boundaries on Oahu and it’s amazing how most everybody just wants to get along and wants to be judged for their own individual behaviors.
I think the problem has been the damn media and politicians who’ve tried to divide us into groups for their own ideological and financial interests.
In the end we are all Americans and all want our country to be free, prosperous and safe. We’ve always been a nation of different cultures and races and beliefs and we are strong when we throw all that into the big melting pot and together become better versions of our self. Diversity becoming unity is our strength. Mahalo!
Well said. I do believe the media, including social media, has started to polarize certain groups. It's too bad because, like you said, we just all want to get along.
Pretty good video. Over the years, local culture, Native Hawaiian culture like is mentioned depending on who's describing it and who's receiving the message is used interchangeably, separately depending to who they think is the receiver of the message both publicly and privately. Media, sensitivity, personal bias all play a role in the transmission of the message along with the speaker and the listener. I would add to individual private desires as another motivating unclear factor. People all have their desires of what they want, as well as what they are willing to do. Are they really honest about those things when regarding issues that affect everyone? Someone can say they want clean oceans, land but are they willing to work themselves to clean the land/waters? Or do they leave it for someone else? When there's a function at someone's house, do they all participate in bringing and cleaning up? All the TMT protesters make noise about the TMT. Did they clean up the land that they protested on? Or just leave? Our politics, people complain about the politicians, but would they run for office? Determining if the validity of something, a person, a cause, takes work. Not for one instance but perpetual to ensure the integrity of it and the ones doing it, are true. When the islands were discovered and sea captains discovered sandalwood was in the islands, whose idea was to harvest it and who benefited from it? When the Hawaiian royalty gave land away to the people that they liked, why wasn't it doled out to the commoners as well? When people who own property now, they sell it to the highest bidder, but it's not to the young local families that desire to start out. Wanting the land protected that someone's else job to care for/do. Those volunteers in organizations doing the arduous work of restoring woodlands, ancient sites, fishponds, keeping traditional culture/practices alive and running now those people, are doing the demanding work, which means being involved on a regular basis. We worry about the cultural aspect of a mountain but not any other part of the islands. The other mountains, the seas, the wetlands, the water, the economy of the islands for people to have food, water to management our trash and waste water? We don't live on the mountain, but we do live on the lands that we use. Our trash, our fallow lands/roads where people dump their waste. The local culture and Native Hawaiians are slightly different, but most of the local culture includes the Native Hawaiians as well. Are the Native Hawaiian community saying the trash is all done by non-Hawaiians?
Great comment. So many things I agree with that I wish I could expound on in a video. But just to touch on one point you made, I do agree that it takes work and that's the determining factor, to me, to see if people really care about an issue. Talk is easy to do, even on this UA-cam channel. It's much harder to do something about it through actions.
Chris, I love a plate lunch 😊❤. Love and appreciate Hawaiian culture and Local culture ❤.
There is no seperate native Hawaiian culture. There used to be. Not anymore. They go to the same schools (or schools structured the same) , listen to the same radio stations, watch the same TV shows, drive the same cars, grow up for all intents and purposes as anyone else, etc. There are some remnents of when there actually was a unique culture, but they are few and a grasping at the past for some semblance of proud 'difference.' And that sameness is fine, that's normal, and inevitable. The information age. You ask the English and Scottish if they are the same, but they take offense and are ready to fight, but for the rest of the world looking in they are the same. There are cultures in the world significantly different from 'western' culture, but native Hawaiians aren't it. The Hawaiians from before contact, which definitely were a unique group, would see no significant difference in how the current native Hawaiians, locals non-native, and visitors act and live. Though keep rockin' that ideology if it makes you feel good.
The king of ethnic humor in Hawaii? Frank DeLima.
And Da Queen: Andy Bumatai (Or is it the other way around?)
The best 🤙
Let's not forget about Rap Reiplinger. His Poi Dog LP is classic
Miss the Aina
Missing home😢
❤️🤙🏻
Can always visit 🤙
I'm on the mainland in the midwest, the first time I attended a neighbors party they kept their shoes on and practice something called "Bring your own beer" which is absurd 😂😂😂
Road to any culture should strive to be a two way road. Understanding all points of view. The mixed plate example works well when all the food is at least tried (understood). But I have seen many refuse just because of how it looks or feels. Their lose. I try to understand your culture and hope you try to understand mine, then we all win.
Sadly Red Vs Blue (Dem vs GOP) Right Vs Left has divided the entire country, and the world it seems. If only we could all meet at Hanalei bay and party.
@@michaelespinosa9168 That would be the start of a wonderful time together. Aloha Michael
Great point. Sometimes we don't try things because of aethetics and how they seem to initially make us feel. I'm guilty of this too. It just takes time and a willingness to chance 'um and then we can start gaining empathy through understanding.
Great video I enjoyed it . Mahalo
Glad you enjoyed it 🤙
Timestamp 14:35....inspired by your Freudian slip of the word "negotiation" cause obviously for me in light of other news events, I've been grappling out loud the reconciliation of differing conflicts or competing interests. It triggered memories of chemistry class and biology class and physics class in understanding liquid SOLUTIONS. The word I think most aptly and poetically captures the idea is from a biological perspective: HOMEOSTASIS: a dynamic balancing that is not static maintained, managed, regulated by processes ...in response/push back to constant changes in the environment...I suppose for people who are conflict avoidant, there is the mistaken idea that reconciliation or solutions can finally bring an end to conflict/dispute/....change...herein lies the fallacy in logic...as change...culture...people keep changing...and can the systems change as dynamically as well...mahalo for the light bulb moment in real time.
You are such a good guy. Odds are likely they couldn’t pay their way here nor stay and they just want to complain.
Thanks for another enlightened discussion . The only thing keeping me from coming back is my bank balance , brah ! Mahalo .
Thanks for watching. Hope you get an opportunity to come back. 🤙
Excellent video 👍🏼🤙🏼
Mahalo 🤙
Braddah 99% thumbnails is one kine sad face...smile bruddah 🤙🏻 We live on da bes place on Ert!!!
I'm smiling on the inside 😆
why not have a native hawaiian expert like Kamaka Pili on your channel
That's a great idea. 🤙
I moved here 3 months ago and I love it - I had to live in Waikiki for the people (even though it's mostly tourists). I do love the Hawaiian people and the mixing and matching and mixing and matching again. And I think it's because of the US Military who is the biggest employer in Hawaii - Tourism is second. I feel very sad for the for the tourists who have to leave the most perfect place on earth.
Glad you've enjoyed Hawaii so far. Would love to hear an update after about a year or two.
Chicano Mexicano and American. Today we have Latino. I am American ❤
Nah man, the paper plates from okata bento vs the melted styrofoam from kalakaua drive in hit differently. Still love the video tho!
No more styrofoam since the new laws passed about single use plastics and containers. Now we have those paper/cardboard ones.
Always like your videos even if I disagree with parts you do them well
Thank you. I hope people understand that it's okay to disagree. It's the discussion that's much more important to me than being right.
@@HelloFromHawaii absolutely its silly to think you'll agree with other people 100% its just too bad people freak out over other opinions
You're nor from my generation but you explained us well. We are evolving but I'm afraid we are being shaped by outside influence such as the "Media" when it should be the other way around. We learned to live with each other on our own, and Hawaii became the real melting pot even before becoming a US state . We should be the rule and not the exception. The Aloha Spirit was born from all of us and tourist had a big part of it wink wink "hula shows at the Waikiki Shell". I dont think the Mainland can ever go through the growing that went through which is the hard work ethic of the migrants and Hawaiians , to better ourselves, extra extra respect to our elders and to basic respect for others and their property(mango trees ;) ) Today our humor is checked , We are forced to like each other(not earned) , and their is a lot less accountability or self shame. ps. My ancestors arrived in 1924 , Thank you to the Hawaiian's for being hospitable and even bearing with us Filipinos Aloha
There is also a micro vs macro level. What about Asia vs Pacific Rim vs Western Culture influences.
Or
American Indians vs Local? vs Melting Pot Culture
You see similar in other countries...
Maori in New Zealand
Tibetan in China
How does growing up in Hong Kong feel studying British history, then change to China influences with a Melting pot of cultures.
Interesting topic
That's a great point about micro vs macro-level influences. Like I mentioned, I'm no sociologist and I'm sure there are great papers in the UH stacks about this topic. Maybe I'll read some of them someday 😄
Spot on
Interesting, Chris. Seriously, but: no Asian culture?
The idea that you shouldn’t speak on Hawaii unless you’re Kanaka is nonsense since the Constitution of the Kingdom of Hawaii says you don’t need to be Kanaka to be part of the Hawaiian Kingdom. I am Kanaka btw. It’s just the truth
Mahalo for pointing that out 🤙
We say zoris for slippers but I’m Japanese 🤷🏻♀️
In the 50s & 60s I think most locals called them zoris, whether Japanese or not.
When you separated native culture from local it reminded me of natives in America. Should we honor people that took care of things before we came like grandparents? Maybe. Maybe some nowadays don’t even honor their elders. But maybe that would be a good practice. If their ethnicity is still alive they made a choice at some point to share what they had instead of fighting to their death to keep you from it, the thing you want. They should be respected for that.
I feel like most people in Hawaii tend to lean towards the middle. It's unfortunate that the only news outside of Hawaii is the extremes. I guess that is news.
The outside media _always_ portray Hawaii as a tropical PARADISE. It's da Local media that tells otherwise:
ua-cam.com/video/lylMgVWklDs/v-deo.html&ab_channel=IslandNews
ua-cam.com/video/RO_Vfv99WSQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/IIO4FkNBYsk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HawaiiNewsNow
Yeah, the middle or moderate view doesn't get as many clicks because, well, it seems so much more relatable. The outer fringes allow for more intriguing titles and images.
lol plate lunch 😅😅😅 all I know if that plate lunch is hamburger steak 🥩 I could care less of the box that’s holding it together! I always get my gallon size ziploc bag so the gravy NO spill 😊
If other races cant learn from eachother we will not progress in life and we will lose hawaii and it's language 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
There's only one race. Human. We are all neighbors on this tiny blue dot.
@@michaelespinosa9168 Agreed. Now go lecture the admin of Harvard, Columbia, Disney, Southwest Airlines, Boeing, ad agencies, State govs, the Taliban, Turks, Gulf States . . .
Great point. I think your statement also applies to people of different walks of life and socio-economic groups.
Is Haole hunting still a thing?
Back in the day, it was all December 7. But it's not longer "infamy" (just like 9-11, now)
I'm not sure. Probably in certain schools.
OMG ...... you went to the beach.
lol. Yeah, it was a nice day and wanted to get outside 😆
Think on this. Hawaii has committed to become the 50th State. Unfortunately for all the myriad of cultures living in the State, this means that you have to embrace the Constitution of the United States of America, in its entirety. Think on this first.
Plany fo learn from all sides 🤙🏼
So true 🤙
Not to risk coming off as a narcissist, but you’re clearly (imo) referencing my comment to you on the John Oliver reaction video you did & so I feel I deserve a rebuttal to this video and hope you will actually listen this time, because I truly feel you have failed to do so in the past (not only my last comment, but others previously too)….
So to start, I NEVER said you have no right to talk about HAWAI’i, you’re welcome to (although I will go into detail about that later), however John Oliver’s video was NOT about Hawai’i, it was about the effects, mostly of the US, on NATIVE HAWAIIANS SPECIFICALLY, he literally mentions NATIVE HAWAIIANS by name and topics such as Native Hawaiian groups trying to help in various ways in Lāhainā, the unlawful overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom & its affect on Native Hawaiians, kuleana lands being stollen (something specific to Native Hawaiians) and Hawaiians on homestead waitlists. These are Hawaiian specific topics, yet you made a video portraying yourself as a victim or bilateral sufferer of Native Hawaiian specific issues.
In that video, you mentioned how you were happy that Hawai’i got the spotlight because it so seldom does… but it wasn’t Hawai’i getting the spotlight, it was Native Hawaiians getting the spotlight… if Hawai’i issues seldom get a global spotlight, imagine how much MORE rare it is for Native Hawaiians to get a global spotlight… and you stole that spotlight for yourself when you had no right to do so, because you’re not Hawaiian and not the topic or victim of the issues he brought up. THAT was my issue with that video.
Mahalo for the comment. I appreciate the discussion and sorry if you felt that I was singling out your comment. When I stated that there are some who believe that only Native Hawaiians can talk about Hawaii, it's from a vast number of comments I've received over the years and also what I read on social media comments.
I actually thought that the John Oliver video was more about Hawaii, rather than about Native Hawaiians. Maybe that's just how I saw it, per the title and ultimately the conclusion of the video. In the solutions provided toward the end of the video, I interpreted those suggestions as bettering the state as a whole and not necessarily the Native Hawaiian community. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's how I viewed that.
Again, I appreciate the discussion through the comments. Mahalo for watching 🤙
I am just not getting how this video is about local culture
Your plate lunch analogy is cool, but I have one thought........Da container(western culture) ends up as da opala(rubbish) & is polluting Hawaii.
Interesting point. I didn't think of that, but I'm sure there are things that could be said about that 🤙
Enjoyed the video but the reference of using western culture as the plate to gain better understanding of Hawaii diversity to me comes across as promoting western superiority. Just saying. No culture is superior. All cultures are a combination of different families/tribes etc which naturally creates diversity and therefore we will have to learn from each other to build a community and from that we build a nation, state etc. My point is there is no such thing as pop culture or a superior culture in the world. We shouldn't strive for that. Loving Diversity makes the world go round. But to be fair to you there is only so much you can communicate in a short UA-cam video that is discussing a complex issue. The most important thing is where you heart really is in what your trying to communicate. I'm always trying to listen to your heart and where your coming from more than your video commentary. Peace and Aloha.
give the maka'ainana back their aina
Rise above the negative. This is a State in America and has its own uniqueness. Be a good person everywhere on the planet and you'll get along with 99% of people.
It's one of the reasons I decided not to move to Hawaii. My cousin there experiences racism all the time, as a white woman. She'll go into a grocery store and the Native Hawaiian cashier will completely ignore her and call another Native Hawaiian customer standing behind her up to the checkout line instead. She complained to the manager, who did nothing. My guess is maybe it's like with blacks here on the mainland - you're not allowed to criticize them or hold them accountable, otherwise you're a racist. They also would call her "tuna", which I've been told basically means sl*t out there? Anyway, decided it wasn't worth the trouble to uproot my life and have it not work out well. I actually think it would be a great thing if Hawai'i became a sovereign nation again, in a "free association" with the US. Might calm tensions down a lot more.
Mahalo for sharing. Sorry to hear that things didn't work out. And just know that what your cousin experienced should not be the norm. If it were me, I'd take my business somewhere else.
Where is she? I'm white and haven't experienced that even once since I moved here, or on my trips here before.
Don’t forget Micronesian culture 😂
Unfortunately, they serve as a convenient scapegoat for all the waring factions, just like Asian convenience stores in New York and California.
A big culture here 🤙
you need to dig deeper
Seriously though, don't come to Hawaii colonizers!
There is no such thing as a “proper” culture in any land. The sword of the conqueror determines the culture.
I think there are many cultures in any one land and it's interesting to see how it organically changes as time goes on.
From a Mainlander perspective, Hawaii is two-faced. You fake smile when we arrive because you need our tourism money/business. Without us, you would not survive… period. The pandemic should have taught Hawaii an important lesson on economic tourism! Then you backstab us when we leave and complain non-stop that we are destroying the land/culture/whatever. But you don’t do that to tourists from other countries (Japan, Canada, Europe, etc), just the “mainlanders”. Why is that? Discrimination much?
I understand your point. There is a certain sentiment of that. However, I hope you know that not everyone acts or thinks like that. Most locals know and remember how things were and how the economy operates here.
@@HelloFromHawaii the worse tourists in Hawaii are the Japanese. So annoying AF. How about you do a video on them?
It's hilarious, I can care less if the locals or people don't want main land state residents or not, If I want to move and live in Hawaii I will and I could care less what the "locals" think...this is America whether they like or not.
Try to move to O'ahu with that attitude, and you won't be truly accepted unless it's by other transplants with that same attitude. You will be labeled as a stupid haole.
Move there first.
@@plynn136 I'm pretty much solo person, but not much people say or do bothers me. So what's the big deal?
@@plynn136 and I'm looking into it, job first then move....i'm in no hurry
@@plynn136 He has great videos with a great first hand perspective, everyone will get pushed out by people with more money, anywhere in the world. Cultures collide, long gone are original cultures, glad they keep them alive but no need for animosity to people that have nothing to do with their history.
Have you seen the new Fox show about lifeguards on the North Shore?
I haven't seen it. Any good?
I mean this is all nice and dandy but does our opinion even matter? should we be hearing this same topic from a indigenous hawaiian rather than whatever mix plate you are? genuine question
I think the discussion is important. The more perspectives there are, the better understanding we can all have, which, I hope, leads to more empathy, even when we disagree.