Native Hawaiian Sovereignty | INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI
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- To date, no sovereignty effort has managed to truly galvanize the Native Hawaiian population. Now armed with the state's approval, the Native Hawaiian Roll Commission has high hopes that will change. Is an independent Native Hawaiian government within reach?
Moderator:
Dan Boylan
Scheduled Guests:
Sen. Clayton Hee, Chairman, State Senate Judiciary and Labor Committee
Dexter Kaiama, Honolulu Native Hawaiian rights attorney
Esther Kiaaina, Deputy Director, Department of Land and Natural Resources
Former Gov. John Waihee, Chairman, Native Hawaiian Roll Commission
INSIGHTS Episode 1402
Original Airdate: July 18, 2013
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Keep Hawaiian Lands In Hawaiian Hands...
I would love to see current discussions like this!
I like the idea of a free Hawaii whether it is a republic or a monarchy but what I'd like to see before that is a flourishing of Hawaiian language in everything from folk culture to pop culture; that's something they could take from us Latinos in the US. Use your mother tongue tell folk stories, write rocks songs, publish books, think it all and do it all in Hawaiian also dub anything from the State of the Union to any and all English shows.
Hawaiians will reach self-government and independence
My wife and I visited Kauai last week. We have visited Hawaii 4 times since 1988.
We will never visit again.
We witnessed repeated anger from Hawaiians, declaring their desire for independence.
I tried to better understand this, watched a PBS interview of 4 people expressing their desire for independence, with an ultimate goal of returning all land to the native peoples.
I felt very guilty about the way the US Government stole control of the Islands. The guilt was so extreme that my vacation was far from relaxing. I will never return, and in-fact, I would vote YES tomorrow for a vote to remove Hawaii from US Statehood.
I wish I could do more to help the Hawaiians regain their lands. For now, the best I can do is to no-longer support the Mega Corporations that have grabbed land from the native peoples, my family and I will look for other destinations for family vacations in places that have not so unfairly treated people. Honestly, these days that is getting harder and harder to achieve.
John SaintsSoft Dear John. Hawaii is part of the union.
it belongs to the United States of America.
These 4 people who appeared on PBS are mix-blooded.
Those who claims "Hawaiians", most of them have very little hawaiian bloods in them.
Most of them are 3/4 or 7/8 or 15/16 of non-hawaiian blood. (Caucasians, japanese, Chinese, Filipino etc etc)
Hawaii will fall into poverty if it is no longer part of the United States.
Tourists will no longer be willing to the place where there is so much political turmoil.
Get over with, John.
Stop liberal political correctness.
Hawaii will forever be part of the Great and the Magnificent United States of America.
Get over with, John
+Winn Sutanto "Hawaii will fall into poverty if it is no longer part of the United States " Baltimore and Chicago are doing wonderful nobody suffering from poverty in those states ?
+Wenyou Xiao Great, two more imperialist powers.
+Winn Sutanto what about the hawaiians who are-right now-living in poverty on their own lands? they have an inherent right to reparation as much as they did 150 years ago. learn your history because hawaii is not legally a state of the US thus hawaiians can exercise their rights towards becoming an independent nation. it's minds like yours that keeps us from ever progressing and opening the doors to what's possible. I don't think that ties to the US is what is keeping us from poverty.
i 100% agree, the way the US stole the islands was immoral & net effect no different than slavery. So i will stop patronizing a system of slavery & i pray the islanders get their independence. If they prefer to live more simply (see Tonga) then that's 100% their decision.
USA should also pay reparations to all blacks that can trace heritage to slavery, then follow that with a new constitutional convention only this time both women and minorities will have a say in how we construct our laws. First to go will of-course be citizenship for corporations, these evil institutions which now have all the natural rights of humans, but which never die and in-effect are immortal, are the modern incarnation of Vampires - all the rights & powers of humans, with superior strength & power and who can never die (short of 1oz high velocity silver slug or a sharp stick in the chest).
Other than that, i have no opinion.
Whats so hard to understand Hawaii needs their independence and anyone against it should sleep outside their home.
wonderful discussion. thank you so much.
Does no one know who Dr. Keanu Sai is?
I know him. We met on King St. at a pancake shop. Smart.
Based on the 1993 Apology to Hawaiians, what is legal should be recognized as the Hawaiian Kingdom Law. Who should the acting judge be then, in this case when the US government has also high jacked the judges seats in our courthouses?
International courts in The Hague. The United Nations. U.S. meddling in Hawai’i should be treated like Russian meddling in Ukraine.
american judge to hear America robbed and arrested our Queen..hahahah what a fk joke..just so American. Today the Navy poisoned the Hawaiian and their own people on base with water tainted with jet fuel..you cant me this stuff up... So American.
Hawaiian and Puerto Rican independence.
Hawaii, where I was born, has been close to my heart always. The culture of Hawaii, has been Disneyfied by the media, making it cute, but not serious in any way, a shame. I find Hawaiian culture to be as rich as the Greeks, as beautiful as Celtic Culture and as spiritual as the Native Cultures of the Americas. I Love Hawaii and it's people, and hope that Hawaii never quits it's strides toward a revitalization of it's unique and rich culture.
I am one who’s manao changed after learning that annexation was flawed.
I wouldn't doubt it Dexter the separation of power between Congress the US President the Judicial system today. Who in their right mind would ever think there's not a conflict of interest right there we shouldn't be concern about.🤔
Why should we get federal recongnition from the USA. We are not the USA, we are the Kingdom of Hawaiʻi. We need to move forward in getting the USA out of our lands. We were way better without the USA. All our people will come together, because we will have our lands back for our people. Our kanaka people want our lands back.
Hawaii's flag should have eight of something to represent the eight islands
What is used as the "State" flag today was originally the flag of the Hawaiian kingdom. It represents aliance with france, england and the US and therefore was a symbol of neutrality, recognition, independence and friendship. A friendship that was breached. The flag is a fine Koa wood floor that has been hidden under a hideous and fashion-fleeing carpet.
It does, each stripe represents each island
As a Polynesian I must say it's very sad to see how Hawaii is now. As a Tongan from the only remaining island kingdom in the South Pacific I hope Tonga never becomes what Hawaii has become.
Hawaii is far and away better off than Tonga. I know many Tongans that live here in Hawaii and all wanted badly to leave Tonga for a better life in America. Primarily for educational opportunities for their children. I'm not justifying the illegal overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom but to elevate Tonga to Hawaii's status in terms of standard of living, economic opportunity, health care etc... is grossly misguided.All Tongans I have met here in Hawaii would trade Hawaii for Tonga any day.
Tonga is a poor kingdom. They are asking china and other countries for hand outs. Look at the 2019 Pacific games, they could not afford it or have the facilities to hold the games. The fact of being the only remaining kingdom is all good but the kingdom does not have the resources to better the lives of its commoners.
@@Champstarrable Tonga (and Hawaii for that matter) would be better off copying Japan than the US... Japan has a higher standard of living.
@@shin-ishikiri-no I disagree totally. I would say US has a higher standard of living. We have a higher per capita GDP. Japanese citizens work more and get paid less. US also lead the world in internationalization. We let in over 1,000,000 legal immigrants a year and many who come here illegally are allowed to stay. How many immigrants does Japan allow in a year?
@@Champstarrable Have you ever lived in Japan? If not, then your "disagreement" is just a baseless opinion.
The work culture in Japan is largely self-imposed, and as such it means that Japanese voluntarily go along with it, because a lot of them like to "keep up with the Tanakas." There are some that don't follow this trend, and they tend to gravitate towards more modern work environments or become entrepreneurs.
Almost every aspect of Japanese society is more civilized than the US. In fact, some might argue it's *too civilized*, which could explain Americans suddenly realizing how loud, awkward and clumsy they are upon arrival (and they very often are). Japanese people are generally self-motivated, calm, and have a realistic outlook on human nature. The islands are not inhabited with a lot of non-Asians, so the few that are here will get noticed, but acts of violent racism are almost completely unheard of. Basically, despite any silent prejudices, if you speak at least 80% fluent Japanese, you have a Japanese passport or Permanent Residency, and you're not a part of any suspicious religious groups or the Yakuza, you'll be able to do everything a native can. Possibly more, if you don't look ethnic Asian. The only caveat to this might be major political roles, such as Prime Minister. I've even seen Japanese-African police officers (admittedly only two).
Japan is especially more civilized with regards to public order and law enforcement. Japan doesn't have police asking for your ID and then shooting you 5 times when you went to grab for it. Sure, guns aren't standard for day officers, but they don't beat suspects with batons either.
In Hawaii, homeless are shuffled around the islands and terrorized for sleeping basically anywhere. In Japan, they are a lot kinder to the few homeless they have so long as they keep their sleeping areas tidy. Go to any 24hr McDonalds in Japan at 3AM and you'll see a mix of people studying, eating, and taking naps. No violent and aggressive police are being called for homeless catching Z's in public so long as they aren't causing trouble or inhibiting business. If the homeless in the US that arrive on Oahu are worse to have around, then that's just a further testament to the cultural inferiority of the United States.
Both nations have their bad points, but in terms of being "civilized" the United States isn't even in the top 10. Japan is number one. S.Korea is further up the list than the USA. Hawaii should NOT be emulating the "mainland..." In fact, that is one of the core problems with Hawaii (Hawaiian Kingdom). Too much US influence. For starters, Hawaii needs to stop using US-style vehicles which are too big and fuel inefficient. Japan's 軽自動車 (keijidousha) are far superior for island life. Second, public toilets...!! Oahu especially needs that, as business owners are basically intolerant of anyone taking a whizz in their establishment. In Japan, I can go to any 24hr convenience store to use a lavatory. Free of charge.
In terms of GDP and getting paid "less" well you first have to consider values. I can go and live in a ghetto and improve my disposable income by a 40% margin, but I'm still living in the ghetto... Do I want to be in the ghetto, or am I willing to pay a premium for a safe environment with modern transportation infrastructure (bullet trains allowing quick, seamless travel to any part of the nation), decent intelligent people (even if a bit boring), healthy food, etc? That additional income you speak of is basically to offset the cesspool of the US "mainland" environment. I could be filthy rich in Papua New Guinea, but is it worth it? I'd say no.
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He mea iki.
Hawaii has no treaty of annexation and therefore doesn't need to justify their sovereignty. There are still treaties in existence that were signed with Britain, France and Japan recognizing the sovereignty of Hawaii as a nation in 1843. I am not a Hawaiian citizen. I am American, but I recognize the legality of the treaty process and I respect it.
You hit it right on the nose...Truely is the problem..... The fact that the program isnt spoken in the Hawaiian Language..
Aloha... the part that i like is when Dexter says... peoples mind change when they realize there is no treaty of annexation... to me that's the whole ball game... everything else is unlawful... great job Dexter... mahalo
.....than the western culture that is FORCED upon them. I do stress the point FORCED because that is what the western way (if i can call it that) automatically produces.
How much full hawaiians are living today? my dad and his 2 siblings are pure so thats 3
why dont the hawaiians take this matter to the UN? And expose this predator state US once more for the world to see . we also want the US out, and weave new alliance with Russia. We dont need military and economic colonialism.
+Juju Rellama - How would Russia who like the US has done similar things to countries and states, look at Ukraine and others going on currently for proof, so i don't know why they would work so hard for independence just to be under the thumb of another large power? Also the US would never allow a Russian military base that close to California, just would never happen, they would freak out.
Alphenex
Russia-is-not-a-greedy-empire-like-the-US.Russia-doesnt-have-1000-military-bases-around-the-globe.Constantly-inventing-new-reasons-to-incite-and-monger.
Juju Rellama - If i remember Russia is the other country on the side of so many years of proxy wars with the US, meaning like the US they have provided weapons, intelligence, and support to many countries wars. And that is ignorance if you do not believe that every country has an income gap, or does not have greed. In fact post soviet Russia, or even just between 2005 and 2010 the number of billionaire's doubled. (www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/10/10/231446353/if-you-think-wealth-disparity-is-bad-here-look-at-russia). I am sorry that you cannot see things or do not try to view different views from around the world to make informed opinions, i enjoy reading history books translated form around the world, news sources, and talk to people from around the world. I want to see the discrepancies in what each country says to try and find the propaganda that each country displays. As every country does such (and the US is defiantly not an exception nor is Russia) I want to try to be able to find as much of reality as i can and address problems based on that.If it is just another slant against one country without looking closely at others, basically if you are on only to promote Russia and hate on the US this will be my last response as nothing i can say will change that, i am more interested in having a discussion where both parties are open and have something to offer and tech each other and you have already taught me what bias against the US from a Russian perspective can look like so thank you.
Alphenex
who-started-the-warmongering-again-after-Gorbatchev-opened-the-wall?And-all-european-baltic-states-became-independent?Russia-moved-out-of-East-Germany.Russia-moved-out-of-NK.The-US-is-still-occupying-germany-and-south-korea.Whats-the-US-doing-in-the-Ukraine-now?Far-from-home?
Alphenex
Gorbachev-spoke-of-Glasnost.Perestroika.Reagan-called-it-Propaganda.The-US-doesnt-want-piece.The-entire-planet-is-up-in-flames.How-come?Because-of-Russia?its-because-of-the-zionist-pigs-and-US-shit-stirrers
I don’t get it?? If they all recognize and acknowledge the illegality of the annexation of Hawai’i, how is there still opposing sides? Why are we still abiding by U.S. national law? Federal recognition does nothing but prove to the U.S. that we are/were a state/territory needing “their” permission to become independent. Plus we already are internationally acknowledged as an independent state/nation.
I'm a supporter of Hawaiian sovereignty, but in all practicality, the US has a superiority of force, and regards Native Hawaiians as its own citizens. It would be much more pragmatic for the Hawaiians to get federal recognition with the benefits that come with it and then from there work to gain sovereignty. The black Americans cheered on the Emancipation Proclamation, which was a huge step forward for them, but continued to work towards a more just society. Unless there is an "end of claims" clause in the federal recognition agreement, I see only positives.
Now when you speak of the Philippines or Cuba and "being far better off than" you now enter a whole different realm of discussion. You are very much right with Hawaiian Citizens being "more"better" Westernized" and accepted in today western(White) society.(NO RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ATTENDED, JUST A WAY OF DESCRIBING THE WAY OF LIFE THAT WE IN A WESTERN CULTURE LIVE) However its clear to see that some places cannot live in this culture because their way of living is so much more different....
I have to go with Dexter on this one?
Mr. Kaiama, I give you credit to stand firm for our people and our Queen Liliuokalani with three other plastics that talks for the people under the occupiers, to keep their jobs. Ho'opa'akiki, good for nothing when you have Hawaiians manipulate our history so they look good under the State of Hawaii's and Federal of the Untied States eye's...
A'OLE TO FEDERAL RECOGNITION KEEP HAWAII HAWAIIAN WE DONT WANT NOOOOO PART OF THE UNITED STATES.
agree we don't owe the US jack..however, they owe us in the trillion for the illegal takeover of the Hawaiian Kingdom..The USA got the money, ripping off the tax earn dollars, making the Americans pay for all their hookers for sex, booze, rob other countries, etc, and our governors just go along with it, same oh same oh with them too. etc
@@nohea9936 yup real pilau these politicians some people tell me especially older generation no vote no grumble I tell them I don't vote for corruption and destroy where I live.
@@wahiawabound808 the reason why nothing is changing in your swamp state is because people like you don’t vote and expect miracles to happen out of nowhere.
Hawaiians don’t want a corrupt kingdom....or politicians.
they should follow the Calexit movement.
James hope you dont mind but lets have a discussion..
Every Independent nation is a sovereign nation... Sovereignty lies with in the people , is that not correct?
Another point I wanted to show you was the fact that according to Bloomberg United States is actually ranked 46th in health care and Hong Kong stands to be the best health care .
I think when it comes to anything Hawaiian, you should speak it in the hawaiian language, and with a traditional lingual too.
Lol this is America
'A'ole AmeliKKKa. The fact that you dont know that Hawaii is THE ONLY state that has TWO native languages accepted; Hawaiian and English is ignorance all in itself. Good luck with your racism tho.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be free...I'm saying can they protect their sovereignty as an independent nation?!
Yes for all the people that feel that we as kanaka have other blood in us, be it german, japanese, Chinese, Filipino, so what. This is still Kanaka, Hawaiian Kingdom Lands. We still have plenty 100%, 75% , 50%, people that have kanaka blood. As long as our people have kanaka blood is what matters. Everyone that can prove their bloodline of kanaka blood, belongs to our Hawaiian Nation. We still have our legal rights to our land. People that say we are mix blood so what, is that all you can say. Once again we still have the kanaka blood. Once the US have no say about our lands, you will see so much more Aloha, more people will want to come here, because they will see and feel the true meaning of our lands and people, without the US involvement. We will take back our lands, and return it to our Kanaka people.
The land is controlled by America now just as illegally as when the Hawaiians controlled it. Hawaiians immigrated there just like the Americans did later. What a bunch of losers spending their lives trying to return to the past when they were subject to an illegal monarchy.
David Stutz Hawaiians were the first settlers of Hawai’i. Bro you’re dumbbbb
wrong. Asians are not Hawaiians
@@laxer123 All people that lived in Hawaiʻi was called Hawaiian people, whether they were Chinese, Japanese, Flipino, potagee. They lived here. Thatʻs why people that have the koko, are called Kanaka Maoli.
I wonder how Hawaiians became owners of a place that they immigrated to from Tahiti?
David Stutz We were the first to travel to and settle the islands. The US illegally annexed Hawaii. So it is not a state. Do your research before making such dumb comments.
It wasn’t immigration. Nobody was here before us.
Oh you mean you wanna mention the Menehune but this link states that the Hawaiian people NEVER overthrew the Menehune system in place but rather they asked for Pa'ao to overthrow their cruel King. Here's the link provided below
www.sacred-texts.com/pac/hhl/hhl11.htm
Kanaka are the first people to settle the land. They didn’t overthrow another nation to get it. The discovered in in the middle of the ocean and lived sustainably for 1,000 years without outside resources. 1 million people. King Kamehameha overthrew some leaders, in unifying the disparate islands, but The Kingdom of Hawai’i was an internationally recognized nation at the time that it was taken in a coupe. It’s an internationally illegal act.
I have been a student of the Hawaiian Sovereignty for several years. In general I agree justice needs to be done to native Hawaiians. My parents were Cuban and one of my childhood friends was born in Manila. I wonder if Mr. Kaiama has ever visted either of these sovereign nations? Every Hawaiian child today eats three meals per day, has access to the best health care system in the world and is educated and is protected by the U.S. Navy at Pearl Harbor. Mahalo.
Hawaiian children had plenty to eat before contact and before overthrow as well. But they lost their land, language, culture, and religion in exchange for ... what? To say the U.S. is protecting Hawai’i is rich. The only time Hawai’i has been attacked was either by the U.S. or in effort to hurt the U.S.
@@ligairi The whole 1893 Saga is horrible. We do not know what Hawaii would look like today without the annexation but we know what happened to other places that became independent. Even if the monarchy survived it would be third world nation today with all the problems associated. My favorite book on Hawaii was King Kalakua's book " The Legends and Myths of Hawaii".
Hawai'i must be ruled by native hawaiians and noone else..
U.S. belligerent occupation is a war crime and a breach of treaties. No treaty of annexation is a legal issue. You are correct Ka'iama IS only one on the panel that knows what he's talking about. The Hawaiian Kingdom does have U.S. Federal International recognition already as peer to U.S.A. The Federal domestic/internal recognition is for a Native Hawaiian American tribe. Secy of interior and U.S. Congress have plenary authority over tribes.
Question what happens to Hawaiians who are not 50 percent do they get kicked out of hawaii if we get turned into a sovereign state. Is my question.
Wolf Gone Why would they get kicked out? We just want political independence.
Does Tulsi Gabbard Free Hawai'i ??????
I hope Hawaiians will reach self-government and independence. In the meantime, get rid of as much christian influence, buildings, and indoctrination as possible. The christian ideological cancer spread throughout the Pacific cultural areas of Polynesia, Melanesia, Micronesia, the Philippines, and the aboriginal areas of Taiwan. It is an inhumane form of mindless belief, disrespectful of local cultures, elders, and women. Larry, Taiwan
Uhhhhh. We’re fine with our religion. thank you. I definitely don’t agree with how it was introduced. However, I was raised this way.
Aka Bill I Terminate
It took my sister life.
How Dare you people your in my country
Get That right.
Hawaii has become the most militarized state in the US.Seems very unlikely that US will ever consider giving it back.I beleive that Hawaiians could become sovereign in the way the Amish have.Hawiians need help getting off the tit of the US.Educate your own,starting with the language, childrens education,farming, fishing,hunting, building,natural medical care,history,ancient culture,etc.Focus on living a life as a sovereign people and less on political sovereignty.I believe this would strengthen the Hawaiin people which could lead to a chance of political sovereignty. And stay loving above all,hating will inhibit political sovereignty not enhance it.
Bow Down
Esther should do more research on the true history of Hawaii because her brother is needing to be Kanaka to be happy and not have to depend on her, who does not understand deoccupation...she sounds like a politician, stay here if that's your calling and give up your name...Kiaaina..."product of Hawaii".
There are many thoughts, we are making those changes to take care of all the people now in Hawaii...but they have to know, even if 85% are not Hawaiian, they come from somewhere, they need to search their hearts of hearts to choose who you are and where you came from...maybe you need to go back there to help your country...have you thought about that? if not, please do and take a minute to be honest within yourself for the sake of yourself, your family and friends.
Inouye represent American from a foreign Country the Hawaiian Kingdom..That is illegal to America. Inouye represents Japan, he is not American. He lived in the Hawaiian Kingdom as a Japanese born citizen. Wake up America.
The Inoue surname was adopted by Koreans pretending to be Japanese. There is no such thing as Japanese but Koreans and Koreans occupied the island now known as Japan and committed genocide against the Ainus, the island's indigenous people.
Therefore, the Japanese living in the U.S. are actually ethnic Koreans, just like the Japanese living in Japan.
Points taken but even with all the terrible problems facing native Hawaiians high rates of incarceration, homeless, etc. They are far better off than Filipinos or Cubans today. I think Native Hawaiians worry to much about what they may have lost and not enough about what they have. Just my opinion.
Filipinos have their land. Their languages, religions, and culture weren’t eradicated. But the U.S. did screw the Philippines in a totally different way. Hawaiians are homeless because they’re being forced off their own lands by rich outsiders. It’s the same reason more Hawaiians live on the American continent than the islands. Cuba is a totally different situation.
@@ligairi There are a lot of Hawaiians living in the Las Vegas area. Yes the crazy real estate speculation started with the Japanese in the 80s. It is a horrible situation.
All these people talk but action like George Helms and others do more than just talk. These people are intelligent and educated but where is their Aloha? Use Common Sense and Keep it Simple. I left Hawaii because there’s more people than Kanaka Maoli’s. All talk no action.
Semantically, and legally, there is no such thing as nation within a nation; it's belligerent occupation and the Hawaiian Kingdom still exists. Hawaiian tribe culls majority of the Hawaiian Kingdom subjects and applies the doctrines of Manifest Destiny.
I dislike this particular video because the facilitator did not make an effort to learn Hawaiian pronunciation. Does he live in Hawai'i? Another facilitator should have been chosen to represent this important discussion.
Okay, so the host can't even pronounce our language... and THIS is how this discussion starts 🥴🙃🤡🤡
Their is a legal.owner to.these lands by proclamations and CONVEYANCES and their are legal representatives all ready in.place by LEAGER of laws a great and we know how we are.
By unbroken genealogical history and CONVEYANCES and proclamations by lineal decendency and in consinquinity and continuitie with.the rest of soveriegnt
And by our customary laws and regulations my lands and resources have been secured. and are protected. Let. Me say this the Kanaka and the Hawaiian are not the same. There is a clear difference between the two. Hawaiian come from outside in made.their home here.. The Kanaka maoli are the people of these lands called Hawaii. We do not know what this means, ( I'm Hawaiian.) Why does that matter. Because your trying to make a sub -racial culture to replaces the Kanaka maoli. Everything you insurgents do is in the distruction of our culture and our people genocide is what you call it. Your cultural heritage and historical significance is about lie cheat steal and koll everything you guys have including your name has been stolen. Your a nation of thieves that's the bottom line.
On June 27, 1959, a referendum asked residents of Hawaii to vote on the statehood bill; 94.3% voted in favor of statehood. Therefore Hawaii is now legally part of the United States of America. Case Closed.
Wrong during that vote no hawaiians could vote plus over 95% of the population was u.s.a. citizens, not citizens of the hawaiian kingdom. Like i said citizens of the hawaiian kingdom was banned from voting so, no treaty, no land, case close, welcome to the hawaiian kingdom.
@@Ian-808 You wrong brah. The question on the ballot was:"Shall Hawaii immediately be admitted into the Union as a state?" Yes or No? All Hawaiians were allowed to vote. No one was discriminated against or not allowed to vote. Whoever told you that Hawaiians could NOT vote lied to you brah. Years prior to the vote, had Hawaii’s monarchy been overthrown by force? Yes. Was Hawaii illegally occupied and annexed? Yes. But Hawaii had the opportunity to correct that in 1959. That was the time to reclaim sovereignty or revolt. But the people spoke and chose statehood. Now, there is no going back. The Civil war settled that question. There can be no succession. Once you are in the Union you are in for life! Ride or die, USA!!!
if hawaiians ruled themselves how would they be able spend all their savings on giant trucks
These so called Hawaiians look just like Asian and white mixture and NOT how king kamehameha looked!!!!! I smell imposters
Reis Yonehiro STFU , so basically they are telling you they are NOT the indigenous ppl of Hawaii!!!! And they look NOTHING LIKE KING KAMEHAMEHA OR HIS PARENTS OR GRANDFATHER, you ppl refuse to acknowledge and accept the black MELANESIANS OF HAWAII who were there first!!!! These Asian immigrants need to go and they know they are NOT the indigenous ppl
Davinci sullivan uhhh the Polynesians who settled Hawaii were part southeast asian and part melanesian. You need to calm down.
Most of the original Hawaiians were wiped out by disease brought by Europeans. 1 million at contact vs 12 thousand by overthrow. The population was bolstered by Japanese, Chinese, and Portuguese plantation workers (for the most part). That’s okay. Blood Quantum is a colonizer’s tool to disenfranchise.
ligairi you are a damn liar and if you believe that then you need help?!?! 1 million lost to disease are you kidding me the Europeans could barely get pass the Black Plague but they could with stands all these others diseases!!!😂😂 what a joke the original Hawaiians were and are black Melanesian and the ppl now claiming Hawaiian are Asians and mixed white ppl and king kamehameha proves this as well as his wife and his parents
Mr. Boylan, perhaps you should learn the proper pronunciation of the Hawaiian language, if not at best the words you planned to talk about. Sitting here watching you hack these words is a appalling.