Yeah the entire market is way too expensive. But there are very similar and great kites for a good price out there… I have flown this kite tho for a few sessions and I have to say that it is very very good.
@@fysalides1 it is very expensive… but very good. The worst part is that you will resell with 40% less after a year if it is in good condition ( like other Dacron kites ). So for people who can’t afford yet, their are already good aluula used kites out there that you can find with more than 50% discount of retail price 😉
Yeah it’s expensive but so are international flights or heaps of other things that we spend on every year and only provide momentary enjoyment. When you work out the cost per session number, it’s actually super low. If you’re into sky diving or bungee jumping type thrills, that has a rediculous cost per session. Theres still some great Dacron/penta tx kites out there that give great performance so you don’t have to buy allula. But if you want that extra looping or low end performance to turn an average sub 20 knot session into an amazing progression session, then maybe allula is worth it to you. I see the same comment about price every time an allula model comes out. Allula is optional. Xr8 is still a great kite for a different range of conditions
@@Sam.constable you compare incomparable things. The price of the new kites cost as much as a good used car.. Jesus!!!! People out there are starving and we make our hobby.. should be some limits... World is going really crazy... Let me not make that perfect loop...
I have very mixed feelings by watching this video. I really love your content, don't get me wrong! A year and a half ago everyone was praising and hyping the XR PRO as the best kite in the world. Many of us went and bought the next big thing.. Now the Pace is the next big thing and all the XRs that we own are kites from the old times? I have 3 XR8s and 1 XR PRO that I bought 1.5 year ago and I feel outdated... Yes the PACE must be great for those who double loop. No beginner or intermediate kiter should feel the need of buying a €3000 allula kite. I have the feeling that CORE is killing it's own flaship(XR) and along with it my trust and loyalty to the brand. Somehow I feel like tricked into buying the hype of XR & XR PRO.
Hi Mike I feel like nobody ever talks about it but the landings are much more difficult than with the xr due to the higher aspect ratio. So looping is the easiest thing ever but the landing is quite tricky because the kite has to be flown in a wider radius around 12 to maintain a constant upwards pull. Most of the times when I was landing I got dropped quite hard and had to land with my knees mostly. The XR much loftier.
Hey Paule! Thanks for the great feedback. In my video about the Pace Pro I actually said quite explicitly that the XR gives softer landings 😂 ua-cam.com/video/54z_1gZ-51I/v-deo.html
Buy North orbit or Airush lift v3 with discount 23-24 years and will by happy. Insane price for Core kites helps to other kite brands and riders save money. Core kite not the best- only in some area. High price kill all sports and people change hobby to cheape hobby like chess 😅.
@@vikingh3008 yes. But dealers add same percent for high price and make bigger profit for the same procedure: delivery kite from factory to customers. Check like 2018 vs 2024 years. Same is and for expensive kite for factory, the make bigger money. Aluula just new "magic material" and for most people its not key. All this factors show that Pace not the best kite overall 🙂- like expensive Ferrari or Porsche.
@@vikingh3008 kite charakteristic- yes, for material- no. About Allula or other material- factory and investors allways want profit. 🙂. Dont trust any rumors about working for free🙂
@@kallepilli1 couldn’t make the thin frame rigid enough with normal Dacron, so impossible to do a regular version, Any level rider would benefit from an Aluula kite, but if you don’t want to kite loop, the xr pro is a better choice,
@@vikingh3008 okay, fair enough. Still, there are plenty of kites that loop really well while also being very good for boosting and are not made with aluula. For instance, Eleveight RS and XS, Duotone Evo (also Rebel imo) and North Orbit and the list goes on.. I'm sure they could make the leading edge a little fatter and it would still be a veeery good kite.
How does the Pace compare to North Orbit Pro? Is the 1,000$ difference in price justified? Also a question with the 7m XR Pro you use the standard bar or compact one?
Well, as 120 kg, 60 years old kiter, I prefer the normal XR for endless boosting jumps and soft landings in any wind conditions. No need to loop, boardoff or else. Just the wind, sea and air coming together. No need for all the fancy stuff😉
There should be a law that advertising is marked as such. Ah, there is, but only in some countries. Clickbaiting by suggesting an honest review is just bad style. Just unsubscribred.
I agree that this 3 struts allula kites are awesome for progress I have evo dlab 10m and I love it, I’ve never been so confidence to push it out of comfort zone, but for smaller kite like 8 would you still go for pace pro? Or at size you recommend xr pro?
If I said that it's a fact, that would be over the top. But I didn't say that. Here's what I said: "Honestly, I think that the Pace Pro is the best big air kite in the world right now". I'm making it clear that it's my *opinion.* Whether or not you agree is entirely up to you. Besos 😘😘😘
Honestly, the lack of every other brand in your content shallows your words. Of course you are sponsored by Core and will only show their products, I know. I´m not doubting that the Pace Pro is nice, but videos like this just scream marketing and not honesty. I think you are better than this.
Yeah baby just packed my gear leaving for Brazil 🇧🇷 in the morning, 8m xr pro, 10 and 12m pace pro, Even the 12m loops and catches for people like me who will never be a pro rider
Was looking for this kind of info, I've been riding XRs for years but I eventually got sick of the slow speed. I switched the to the Nexus and found it frustrating since it rides almost like a size or two down from the XR. Had I known I probably would have bought different sizes. The Nexus is a lot more fun to fly, it drifts better too. Now I'm kinda stuck between these two kites and dont really know where to go, I miss the power and float of the XR, but dont want the slower speed.
Totally get you! I'm not a big fan of the Nexus for those reasons too. The XR is great, but it let's me down in the bigger sizes when it comes to pushing kiteloop board off rotations. The Pace is the perfect solution IMO, but it is pricey
Whats interesting to me is how the "brainchild" kites are going to compare with these aluula kites. Jamie is comming from a d lab to the new kite of f-one (non aluula,for as far ive seen) Im having a pair of xr8, (as a weekend warrior so i can set it and forget it) still i like the progression of the materials and where they industry is going.
I'm also keen to see how he does on the new kites. He was crushing it when he had the freedom to ride whatever he liked. Hopefully he gels with the new gear
Hi, loving the music in the Oman clips! Could you give us an idea of the wind range on the 10m Pace Pro? I’m trying to decide between a Nexus 4 and Pace Pro for my 10m. I will probably go with a 7/8m XR for my high wind kite. Hopefully catch you at Barcares one time 🤙🏻
@@gethighwithmike thank you for clarifying... I might switch to xr or pace then... I only ever flew GTS and yes it seems that my landings are always a bit harsh despite heli looping, I always wish I had more lift and hang time.
you need to get out of your comfort zone by advertising only one brand... others making not such high-quality videos of comparative tests of different brands gather a lot of people and comments under their videos... You can increase your subscriptions 10 times as the engagement of people in other brands is 10 times greater. You hit the ceiling. You're not an athlete to be on the same brand and the store should rock so that you're independent!
A) Alulalalala wil soon be outperformed, the weight game is over as Alula kites are heavier now these days due to required reinforcements B) airframe flexibility is required for proper kiteloop performance at doable steering pressure, most alula are heavier steering due to wing tip Stiffness Don’t let marketing BS fool you. I know kites that came on the market 2 years ago having the loop ability of the pace , on Dacron frames I think core is running behind, they might be at similar level now but having seen some new developments lately they better start working on some new stuff soon Anyways with these margins they can better invest hardCORE into R&D
Yeees, everybody needs this Aluula Stuff. Showing your BigBalls at the beach, really good to throw your money outside your window. Make a video when this shit gets a stretchy at the beach, this paper tube is done so fast....... really mike ? Be serious. One Abo is gone
This is actually a fair comparison to the XR Pro as well. When it comes to kiteloops, the Pace Pro is waaay better if kiteloops are your goal. However, if big, easy jumps, mad hangtime and old school is your priority, then you'd be better off with an XR (Pro or regular). If kiteloops are a priority, the Pace is the way to go, without a doubt.
Xr pro loops well in a 10m down, but less forgiving loop with more jank and goes over head slower, for me the best size xr pro is the 8m, loops and catches fantastic and with crazy jump hight
I would love a comparison of the pace pro and the Evo Dlab in 10 or 12 meters size. I have 8 pace Pro and 10 XR pro, 9 and 12 Evo Dlabs. Difficult choice but not yet any non biased review on pros and cons of each. My feeling is that the pace pro is easier at looping but maybe less powerful with less hang time. Is it a compromise to have easier loops ? (Like the Harlem kites )
Been riding the evo dlab 10 for about a year now with about 150 sessions - for me the best kite - It has the power like a Xr12 and the turning speed of a Xr9 - but I ordered the Pace Pro 12 today to compare its turning speed - I mostly ride oldschool freeride strictly hooked - I even loop the 15 dlab juice on a hand drag 720 transition btw - can't wait to see how the pace pro reacts - the main reason though why I ordered the pace is because I hate the duotone bars, I will fly my dlabs with the core pro 4 bar - 1,90m - at 85KG Athletic here btw
What I read is that Pace has less lift and is more difficult to ride than the evo Dlab. That is why I wait to test myself the 12. For the bar, you don’t need to change the kite to use a core bar… you can use the core sensor 4 on duotone kites 😉. I use north navigator pro bar on my Dlabs and it is perfect
@@issambres if you listen to the podcast colincolin did on the pace (he is usually not very core friendly in his reviews) He said more user friendly than d-lab and best application of Aluula in any loopable kite, and that it will turn weekend warriors into looping machines,
@@Nilz4FR turning speed of the 12m pace is like the 9m xr pro, if you can loop the 15m juice you will love the 12m pace, and the bar is fantastic, even higher line breaking strength than the old sensor 3 pro, I’m 95kg and I got rid of my 13.5m xr 8, biggest size for me now is the 12m pace
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Cmon man! How many of us have 3000$ to buy just a kite!! Crazy!!! Tell yr sponsors to reduce the price or go find cheap alternatives to alula
Yeah the entire market is way too expensive. But there are very similar and great kites for a good price out there… I have flown this kite tho for a few sessions and I have to say that it is very very good.
@@fysalides1 it is very expensive… but very good. The worst part is that you will resell with 40% less after a year if it is in good condition ( like other Dacron kites ). So for people who can’t afford yet, their are already good aluula used kites out there that you can find with more than 50% discount of retail price 😉
Yeah it’s expensive but so are international flights or heaps of other things that we spend on every year and only provide momentary enjoyment. When you work out the cost per session number, it’s actually super low. If you’re into sky diving or bungee jumping type thrills, that has a rediculous cost per session.
Theres still some great Dacron/penta tx kites out there that give great performance so you don’t have to buy allula. But if you want that extra looping or low end performance to turn an average sub 20 knot session into an amazing progression session, then maybe allula is worth it to you.
I see the same comment about price every time an allula model comes out. Allula is optional. Xr8 is still a great kite for a different range of conditions
@@Sam.constable you compare incomparable things. The price of the new kites cost as much as a good used car.. Jesus!!!! People out there are starving and we make our hobby.. should be some limits... World is going really crazy... Let me not make that perfect loop...
I have the money but still dont buy any kites that are 2k+Euros New
I have very mixed feelings by watching this video. I really love your content, don't get me wrong! A year and a half ago everyone was praising and hyping the XR PRO as the best kite in the world. Many of us went and bought the next big thing.. Now the Pace is the next big thing and all the XRs that we own are kites from the old times? I have 3 XR8s and 1 XR PRO that I bought 1.5 year ago and I feel outdated... Yes the PACE must be great for those who double loop. No beginner or intermediate kiter should feel the need of buying a €3000 allula kite. I have the feeling that CORE is killing it's own flaship(XR) and along with it my trust and loyalty to the brand. Somehow I feel like tricked into buying the hype of XR & XR PRO.
Hi Mike
I feel like nobody ever talks about it but the landings are much more difficult than with the xr due to the higher aspect ratio. So looping is the easiest thing ever but the landing is quite tricky because the kite has to be flown in a wider radius around 12 to maintain a constant upwards pull. Most of the times when I was landing I got dropped quite hard and had to land with my knees mostly. The XR much loftier.
Hey Paule! Thanks for the great feedback. In my video about the Pace Pro I actually said quite explicitly that the XR gives softer landings 😂 ua-cam.com/video/54z_1gZ-51I/v-deo.html
@@Paule.kiteboarding yes needs a down loop/heli loop unless just doing baby loops
@@gethighwithmike oh ok then i forgot about that haha
Buy North orbit or Airush lift v3 with discount 23-24 years and will by happy. Insane price for Core kites helps to other kite brands and riders save money. Core kite not the best- only in some area. High price kill all sports and people change hobby to cheape hobby like chess 😅.
@@robertasbenediktavicius1059 all the top end Aluula kites are more or less the same price, not just core that are expensive
@@vikingh3008 yes. But dealers add same percent for high price and make bigger profit for the same procedure: delivery kite from factory to customers. Check like 2018 vs 2024 years. Same is and for expensive kite for factory, the make bigger money. Aluula just new "magic material" and for most people its not key. All this factors show that Pace not the best kite overall 🙂- like expensive Ferrari or Porsche.
@@robertasbenediktavicius1059 actually there’s less profit in Aluula kites,
The company making the profit is the company that makes the material
@@robertasbenediktavicius1059 2018 kites can’t be compared to 2024 kites, huge difference
@@vikingh3008 kite charakteristic- yes, for material- no. About Allula or other material- factory and investors allways want profit. 🙂. Dont trust any rumors about working for free🙂
Doesn't make sense to buy an aluula kite as a regular kiteboarder IMO. Would be nice if they had PACE without aluula. Like XR and XR Pro. :)
@@kallepilli1 you have to try to know 😉
@@kallepilli1 couldn’t make the thin frame rigid enough with normal Dacron, so impossible to do a regular version,
Any level rider would benefit from an Aluula kite, but if you don’t want to kite loop, the xr pro is a better choice,
@@vikingh3008 okay, fair enough. Still, there are plenty of kites that loop really well while also being very good for boosting and are not made with aluula. For instance, Eleveight RS and XS, Duotone Evo (also Rebel imo) and North Orbit and the list goes on.. I'm sure they could make the leading edge a little fatter and it would still be a veeery good kite.
@@issambres I mean regular kiteboarder is probably not gonna benefit from it as much, not that it wouldn't be great to have it.
@@kallepilli1 Aluula is a game changer, I’m not a sales man, try out one and you will notice the difference
Nicely put Mike! Great to see CORE react well to what the market wants!
Awesome, and motivational content as always Mike... Really looking forward to getting dialled on this beast once I get some strong winds...
so what is the difference with the evo dlab? =)
Nothing becouse they made a copy of evo dlab like many other brands
Haha savage comment Luka. Biggest difference is that it's black and doesn't lose air 😉
evo dlap has much better low end wind and this pace core pro loop faster; I have both at 8m
@@giothudong So pace is more for beginners, I believe
@@gethighwithmike also true😄
How does the Pace compare to North Orbit Pro? Is the 1,000$ difference in price justified? Also a question with the 7m XR Pro you use the standard bar or compact one?
Well, as 120 kg, 60 years old kiter, I prefer the normal XR for endless boosting jumps and soft landings in any wind conditions. No need to loop, boardoff or else. Just the wind, sea and air coming together. No need for all the fancy stuff😉
Totally agreed that the XR is perfect for your needs 💪😬
There should be a law that advertising is marked as such. Ah, there is, but only in some countries. Clickbaiting by suggesting an honest review is just bad style. Just unsubscribred.
In Germany this law exists
Hi Mike! Will the new generation of XR (9) be released in 2025? What can we expect there?
November till May brings the Truth for me…..8m PACE PRO ordered……..6-8-9-10m XR8 already in my quiver……can’t wait……hope to meet u at dolphin beach.
To those who are used to ride with a xr 9, what size would match a pace pro?One of the same size or a bigger, like a pace 10?
9 Pace is pretty comparable to 9XR, but slightly less powerful. 10 Pace has a bit more power than the 9 XR.
I agree that this 3 struts allula kites are awesome for progress I have evo dlab 10m and I love it, I’ve never been so confidence to push it out of comfort zone, but for smaller kite like 8 would you still go for pace pro? Or at size you recommend xr pro?
Pace Pro is a nice kite, no doubt. But calling it the best in the world is a bit over the top, ain´t it?
If I said that it's a fact, that would be over the top. But I didn't say that. Here's what I said:
"Honestly, I think that the Pace Pro is the best big air kite in the world right now".
I'm making it clear that it's my *opinion.* Whether or not you agree is entirely up to you. Besos 😘😘😘
Honestly, the lack of every other brand in your content shallows your words. Of course you are sponsored by Core and will only show their products, I know. I´m not doubting that the Pace Pro is nice, but videos like this just scream marketing and not honesty. I think you are better than this.
Yeah baby just packed my gear leaving for Brazil 🇧🇷 in the morning, 8m xr pro, 10 and 12m pace pro,
Even the 12m loops and catches for people like me who will never be a pro rider
Yiiihaaa! That's awesome! Hit me up if you come to Guriu :D and great to hear about the 12m. I've only ridden it for 15 minutes 🥲
I just ordered the 12m pace pro - can you share some insight on that kite? Been riding the 10dlab evo and 15 dlab juice sofar this year
@@Nilz4FR I love it, so direct and fast, feels like a 9m
Any footage of a 12 pace pro kiteloop session?
Haven't had a loop session on the 12m yet 🥲 only had 15 minutes on it so far
@@gethighwithmike The kites have really advanced I saw guys mega looping the 15 Thrive last week on 22m lines
@@Nilz4FR core been testing a new 15m Aluula that loops aswell
Why hasn't the "best competition kite" won a single competition yet?
Obligatory nod to sponsor :)
Was looking for this kind of info, I've been riding XRs for years but I eventually got sick of the slow speed. I switched the to the Nexus and found it frustrating since it rides almost like a size or two down from the XR. Had I known I probably would have bought different sizes. The Nexus is a lot more fun to fly, it drifts better too. Now I'm kinda stuck between these two kites and dont really know where to go, I miss the power and float of the XR, but dont want the slower speed.
Totally get you! I'm not a big fan of the Nexus for those reasons too. The XR is great, but it let's me down in the bigger sizes when it comes to pushing kiteloop board off rotations. The Pace is the perfect solution IMO, but it is pricey
Whats interesting to me is how the "brainchild" kites are going to compare with these aluula kites. Jamie is comming from a d lab to the new kite of f-one (non aluula,for as far ive seen)
Im having a pair of xr8, (as a weekend warrior so i can set it and forget it) still i like the progression of the materials and where they industry is going.
I'm also keen to see how he does on the new kites. He was crushing it when he had the freedom to ride whatever he liked. Hopefully he gels with the new gear
Hi, loving the music in the Oman clips!
Could you give us an idea of the wind range on the 10m Pace Pro?
I’m trying to decide between a Nexus 4 and Pace Pro for my 10m. I will probably go with a 7/8m XR for my high wind kite.
Hopefully catch you at Barcares one time 🤙🏻
I would maybe consider a Core kite it they ditched the high Y line split. I have 6 low V kites now and need a bar that work across all my kites.
The new Core bar can be switched to low V as well 😬🤘
Great content 🤙
if kiteloops are priority, then why not the "kiteloop machine" GTS ??
Doesn't jump that well, wind range is lower and the heli loops don't catch nearly as well as the Pace or XR. GTS doesn't come close
@@gethighwithmike What you can say about nexus 4 and pace pro in 9m size? Is there any big difference?
@@gethighwithmike thank you for clarifying... I might switch to xr or pace then... I only ever flew GTS and yes it seems that my landings are always a bit harsh despite heli looping, I always wish I had more lift and hang time.
So many negative comments make me wonder…
you need to get out of your comfort zone by advertising only one brand... others making not such high-quality videos of comparative tests of different brands gather a lot of people and comments under their videos... You can increase your subscriptions 10 times as the engagement of people in other brands is 10 times greater. You hit the ceiling. You're not an athlete to be on the same brand and the store should rock so that you're independent!
can i have all your old xr pros then?
Ja ja say what you want, I'll never love anything as much as my XR!! But hey, I'm too old for loops, I just like to fly and do low tricks :P
Then the XR is the way to go ⚡
First time core disappointed me, just having spent £6000 on xrs pro they bring new kite out.
A) Alulalalala wil soon be outperformed, the weight game is over as Alula kites are heavier now these days due to required reinforcements
B) airframe flexibility is required for proper kiteloop performance at doable steering pressure, most alula are heavier steering due to wing tip
Stiffness
Don’t let marketing BS fool you.
I know kites that came on the market 2 years ago having the loop ability of the pace , on Dacron frames
I think core is running behind, they might be at similar level now but having seen some new developments lately they better start working on some new stuff soon
Anyways with these margins they can better invest hardCORE into R&D
You seem to know everything, except how to write aluula.
Mike, I think the kiters that reached the level of looping during jumps perfectly understand and probably already know that the pace is the go to kite
Yeees, everybody needs this Aluula Stuff. Showing your BigBalls at the beach, really good to throw your money outside your window. Make a video when this shit gets a stretchy at the beach, this paper tube is done so fast....... really mike ? Be serious. One Abo is gone
Need a bond for this kite lol
come bro to tatajuba or guriu learn this late back roll to the left we are waiting for you good winds🤙🏼
I'm in Guriu now 😻🤘 see you on the water!
WHAT HAPPENED TO GTS? 😢
Why the Pace pro is not compared to the XR pro
And that would the XR good for while the XR pro exists?
This is actually a fair comparison to the XR Pro as well. When it comes to kiteloops, the Pace Pro is waaay better if kiteloops are your goal. However, if big, easy jumps, mad hangtime and old school is your priority, then you'd be better off with an XR (Pro or regular). If kiteloops are a priority, the Pace is the way to go, without a doubt.
Xr pro loops well in a 10m down, but less forgiving loop with more jank and goes over head slower, for me the best size xr pro is the 8m, loops and catches fantastic and with crazy jump hight
what about duotone evo dlab and pace pro ? Which is better or did you compared them ?
@@PRokokoss Mike wouldn’t compare as he’s a core rider, pace easier to ride for none pro’s
Bigger sweet spot, and higher jumps
@@vikingh3008 Are you using 22m line length for the 8, 9, 10, 12 Pace Pro? Thanks
Core surely loves superlatives with no proof
I would love a comparison of the pace pro and the Evo Dlab in 10 or 12 meters size. I have 8 pace Pro and 10 XR pro, 9 and 12 Evo Dlabs. Difficult choice but not yet any non biased review on pros and cons of each. My feeling is that the pace pro is easier at looping but maybe less powerful with less hang time. Is it a compromise to have easier loops ? (Like the Harlem kites )
Pace got more hight and bigger sweet spot than the evo d-lab, easier for none pro riders,
Been riding the evo dlab 10 for about a year now with about 150 sessions - for me the best kite - It has the power like a Xr12 and the turning speed of a Xr9 - but I ordered the Pace Pro 12 today to compare its turning speed - I mostly ride oldschool freeride strictly hooked - I even loop the 15 dlab juice on a hand drag 720 transition btw - can't wait to see how the pace pro reacts - the main reason though why I ordered the pace is because I hate the duotone bars, I will fly my dlabs with the core pro 4 bar - 1,90m - at 85KG Athletic here btw
What I read is that Pace has less lift and is more difficult to ride than the evo Dlab. That is why I wait to test myself the 12. For the bar, you don’t need to change the kite to use a core bar… you can use the core sensor 4 on duotone kites 😉. I use north navigator pro bar on my Dlabs and it is perfect
@@issambres if you listen to the podcast colincolin did on the pace (he is usually not very core friendly in his reviews)
He said more user friendly than d-lab and best application of Aluula in any loopable kite, and that it will turn weekend warriors into looping machines,
@@Nilz4FR turning speed of the 12m pace is like the 9m xr pro, if you can loop the 15m juice you will love the 12m pace, and the bar is fantastic, even higher line breaking strength than the old sensor 3 pro, I’m 95kg and I got rid of my 13.5m xr 8, biggest size for me now is the 12m pace
take a ozone Vortex 9 meter and you don't have to buy the expensive core bar...... ;-)
You dont have to buy the expensive core bar… any bar that can be run in high Y works with the Pace pro
evo dlab is also an option :)
Overbeek rides dlab with Ozone bar right now. All this Y, V is a marketing bullshit
@@lohmaghe has a splitter on it to make ozone bar high y ?
@@issambres no, he don't
Booooooob!!!