Comparing the NEW PACE PRO and XR PRO // CORE Kiteboarding review
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Comparing two of CORE's Aluula twintip kites: the Pace Pro and XR Pro. I dive into their features, performance, and which one suits your riding style best. Whether you're into big air, kiteloops or looking for versatility, this video has the insights you need.
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00:00 Introduction
00:19 PACE PRO: what is it designed for.
01:23 Aluula LE & Strut
02:02 3 vs 5 struts
02:30 Bridle differences
03:55 Bridle safety notice
04:22 Aspect ratio
04:51 Bladder material
05:09 Jump height
05:39 Hangtime and landings
06:12 Kiteloops and recovery
07:09 Wind range and power
07:25 Versatility
07:53 Choosing the right kite
Filming / cover picture: Faban Möser
Equipment:
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XR8 PRO: ridecore.com/us/kite/kites/xr...
Board: ridecore.com/us/kite/boards/t...
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Great kites I'm sure but a bit sad that kiting is at this point very much going the way of gear in road cycling and mountain biking in terms of the top end gear and market segmentation. except that in mountain biking and cycling there is still the budget end but not so much the case with kiting imo
I understand what you're talking about, as a biker myself I also see this big price ranges of very similar products that have different specifications. I do enjoy that brands give the option to buy something that's high performance and basically a competition model, albeit with a hefty price tag. Looking at the general market there are kites available at many different price ranges, with some brands it's even possible to buy a "1 year old" model at 40% discount, which I find pretty crazy and similar to the biking industry at the moment.
@@stevenakkersdijk I can see why with the business model adapting to the addressable market size and segments but yeah - coming up near 4000 for a kite and the special matching bar for people working jobs and paying taxes is beyond!
@@huzcer Totally agree that prices are going wild and in all direction, where they used to be more stable across the brands. For most people the performance benefit won't be worth double the amount of money that you pay for a dacron model and that's totally understandable, luckily there are plenty dacron models to choose from that offer amazing value for money. I'm just stoked to see this kite on the market as it does provide a unique performance aspect that I haven't found in a dacron model. Don't you think it's nice to have the option to buy this kite rather than it being reserved for team riders and not available for the general public? Basically you're able to buy an ultra high performance race / competition machine, in many markets this will cost more than double the price of your consumer product. (think: cars, bikes etc.)
Great comparison, Steven! And congrats to Core team for these awesome kites!
What I just thought that I would love to have the budget available today to purchase the range of Pro kites you just laid out…😅😉
Still riding xr4 on my smaller sizes🤥
Thanks Holger! I’m also very stoked with the outcome of this team effort. I can totally imagine what you’re talking about, these kites are getting in a different price range.
Great vid! Was thinking the same about taking pace for bigger kites and XR for the smaller ones
Good choice! you'll love it!
Great review!!
Thanks! Hope you get to try it yourself very soon.
Nice Evo Dlab 😏
@@stevenakkersdijk That would be a dream!
i have the 9m XR pro is Very stable on hight wind and essy to jump hight . i love it
For sure an amazing kite!
Very nice review Steven. I am interested in the pace for foiling and TT when the wind pick up.
How is the relaunch?can you reverse launch ( by pulling on the back lines) the Pace in ligth wind?
That's a very good question! I haven't crashed the Pace yet in light wind, so I honestly don't know (this is something I'll include for future tests) I imagine it relaunches fairly easily due to the swept wingtips and light weight.
Unfortunately I'll only be able to take my setup out for a foil session toward the end of July, otherwise I could have tested it for you. I'll be taking the Pace with for foiling and twintipping on my next trip.
@@stevenakkersdijk Perfect. I'll look forward to hear more about it.
Thanks for your review! What do you feel the New Nexus would be more multipurpose and better at? I am looking for a high performing foil and surf board kite (both in waves) with a bit more power then a single strut kite that can also twin tip when it’s super windy. Also fly in super light conditions for foil kiting. I have seen the Evo D lab Aluula fly in super light winds when no other kites could stay up in the air for foiling and I hope this will be a Core version of this (hopefully performing better then Duotone but they might be lighter?) At 85 kilo weight I am thinking 8m XR Pro, 9m Pace and a 10m XRPro for three kites that will do everything for travel. What do you think?
The Nexus provides more depower so it's easier to switch the kite off when you're riding the wave. I think that's the main benefit of the Nexus, but I still need to fly the PACE in the waves which I haven't been able to do yet.
The Pace is a little bit heavier than the Evo Dlab, Get high with mike actually has a very nice weight comparison in his video. In real life I think this makes about a knot difference in the ability to fly in low winds.
Not sure where you usually ride, but I think I would rather go for 8m XR, 9/10m Pace and a 12m Pace this will basically be my setup as well. 8m XR and 9m Pace will have a similar amount of power, but both have their own way of riding on the twintip which can be interesting.
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Well done mate, you got some sick shots in the release video!
Awsome comparison, can’t agree more! The Pace helped me progress a lot lately 🎉
I saw that, sending it!
Only being compatible with the new bar seems really like trying to sell it. As someone who has tried many kites with bars of different brands I feel like core could have designed it so it works with the other ones too sorry to say and still looking forward to test it. Thanks for the review 😊
There is a very big safety concern behind this and it's also one of the reasons why CORE hasn't released any fixed bridle kites in the last years. The Sensor 3 bar doesn not provide enough difference in power line lenght upon release to fully flag out a fixed bridle kite (PACE). The pulleys on previous kites help in this regard and allow the kite to flag out. So even when testing this kite with the sensor 3 bar, it will work completely fine, but in that rare case that you want to release... the kite is very likely to continue pulling and might even go in to some kind of loop. Therefor I highly recommend to fly it only on the Sensor 4 bar.
Would also love for someone to do a review of this against the Aluula Dlab Evo
Me too 😉
Nice comparison. Nevertheless there is a contradictory statement to what @gethighwithMike expressed (which I mostly agree with): a 5-strut kite will not be as good as a 3-strut one in light winds; and in strong winds the 5-strut will rule due to a greater stability (a bit like windsurf sails with more battens…). And your conclusion/choice seems to agree with that: Pace Pro to lighter winds, XR8 Pro to stronger winds.
Hey Jorge, thanks for your comment. The 3 strut vs 5 strut is a very interesting talk, but there are soo many points that affect which is better and for what and then there is personal opinion that might differ as well. Below is my view on it:
In the light winds the 3 strut kite will "fly" earlier as it's lighter, but this doesn't mean you'll be able to ride it as it might not provide the power needed to get you going on a twintip. When riding a foil it's a huge help to have the lighter 3 strut kite as you can ride it almost instantly when the kite is able to fly and stay in the sky.
To my opinion the shape of the 5 strut XR creates more power and therefor it allows you to ride with lighter winds providing a better low end on a twintip (this does not apply to the foil)
When it comes to stability in strong winds both these kites are great, one has 5 struts and the other has a fixed bridle to keep the arc in check. For me the choice of the XR over the pace in sizes below the 9m, purely is in the power that the XR provides and the easier landings that come with a slightly slower flying and moving kite.
Mike has a great video by the way, loads of info in there.
@@stevenakkersdijk Hi Steven. Thanks for your reply and personal opinion. We all have different experiences (yours for sure better, due to your higher level) and it is always enriching to know about others findings. Even if my personal experience gives me a different one, at least with kites of other brands. And I have a XR7 10m, which I’m selling because I found it tremendously slow and not at all good at lighter winds (when compared to other 3-strut 9-10m kites I have). Note: I refer to twintip riding
I think everyone's experience is unique and there are a lot of kites out there on the market which makes each case very different. Happy to hear you're finding your way through it and you must do what feels right for you. 🤙
@@JorgeEgrejasFranciscoxr8 and xr pro significantly faster than xr7, it’s almost like they have jumped 2 or 3 generations of kites not just one, I had an xr8 9m, at moment 8 and 10m xr pro, the 10m xr pro is faster than a 9m xr8, can’t wait to get my 10m pace
@@vikingh3008 Thank you for your comments. That’s what I thought could happen. I have Aluula original kites from Ocean Rodeo and they are really fast when compared to other kites, like the XR7 I mentioned. And also the Duotone Penta TX Neo SLS I have. Now that all brands are making kites with Aluula things are more even… and expensive.
Looks pretty similar to Duotone evo alula.
It’s a very similar shape indeed.
I hear different stories about the amount of PSI you pump into the aluula XR Pro and The Pace, whats your take on psi pressure when riding normal wind ? psi and when it’s nuking ? psi 🙏🤙
Hey Peter, this is a very good question and my best suggestion would be to have a look at the little number written next to the the inflate valve of your kite. Generally I stick to this number unless I know I'll be putting the kite through a lot more stress (for instance when taking a 9m in 35-40 knots). In those cases I might add 1-2 PSI on top, this is also very size and ktie specific.
Follow the recommended pressure and when you find the kite behaves weird you can add a bit extra.
Hi i would appreciate if you could answer my question: I have a friend which dad makes carbon boards at his shop for way less than on the market since they are off brand. I dont know if branded wooden boards ( for a similar price) are better just because of a brand. What do you think is it better to buy normal branded wooden board or these carbon board which is inspired by Duotone jamie.
Hope to receive a reply... thanks
I can't really answer this question for you as it really depends on how far your friends dad is with his boards. If it's a custom board you're maybe able to give it a test ride. Board design isn't easy and there is a lot of trial and error in the design process. The big brands have gone through this and their products will be tried and tested, this might not be the case for your custom carbon boards.
In the end the shape is still more important than the materials used.
How to demo one of these?
Best to contact one of the shops close to your spot. If you live in or near Germany corekites has demo days over there
Easy answer get both haha
Easier said than done for some I guess 🙈
Looks very similar to the Ozone Vortex.
I think the vortex has more arc and a higher aspect ratio, so I imagine they'll be quite different.
Xr 8 va Rebel 2024 pleasr
I don’t really do any cross brand reviews, but one of the bigger kite shops might do a review like that
8m xr pro
10m pace
12m pace
Great Choice!
@@stevenakkersdijk and now probably keep my 13.5m xr8 aswell after what we talked about
I love when a company does what another has then its as if they invented the idea. Duotone Evo Dlab riders yawn nice kite there oh and you need a click bar LOL
I'm very curious which "idea" you're talking about because I can't recall a moment like this from my video.
The Duotone Evo Dlab has been out there for a while and it's and amazing kite, so of course other brands take that as an example and try to make their own version. I'm super excited that CORE now has a similar kite in their range, but we had to change the safety release on our bar to make it compatible with a fixed bridle that we found to provide slightly more performance for this model.
@@stevenakkersdijk 3 strut performance kite. I'm happy that core has made one I hope others make some also the more there is the better they will become the more choice kiters have the cheaper it becomes we all win
@@rationalthinker9181 More kites = more competition = better R&D
I'm also excited to see what all this brings.