Before you comment, please review 1:04, as I am NOT including ANY uncatchable Pokémon that are ALWAYS shiny. Also, the Shadow Giratina in BDSP CAN be shiny! Sorry about the inaccuracy everyone. Anyway, if you want to share some of the shiny uncatchables you know, even if always shiny, feel free! Also, guys, I KNOW there are glitches in RSE and BDSP that let you catch uncatchable shinies. I mention this at the end of the video. There are also tutorials for them linked in the description below.
You forgot 1 more shiny maybe. I am not sure of it is 100% shiny, but during pokemon go fasion week 2024, i encounterd a shiny golbat from a npc trainer in a battle from a pokestop. Those pokemon can not be caught.
Actually, shouldn’t every Shiny Pokémon in Sleep be un catchable, since you can’t transfer them to GO or HOME? Well you do catch them, but you have to feed them in order to get them and much like the Safari Shinies, they can get full and flee. I suppose the better term is Untrasferrable.
@@electric_man17 nah if a shiny has to transferable to be counted as caught. Then that would make shiny spinda from bdsp also not count since you can't transfer spinda to home because of bdsp shenanigans, which makes it more vague for no reason really.
Odds are in fact 100% that it won’t be shiny anymore. Enemy trainers’ Pokémon have hardcoded personality values which, among other things, dictate that they will never be shiny no matter what. Wally’s are no different; the Ralts rolled up for him to catch is just completely discarded by the game after that event battle.
I encountered a Shiny Bidoof in Legends Arceus right at the beginning of the game when first entering Obsidian Fieldlands. It was uncatchable because getting near triggered a conversation with Rei, after that conversation the Shiny Bidoof was gone :D
I remember getting a battle cutscene with the bandit girls right when I saw a shiny riolu, but when I ended the battle the shinynwas still there. Dont know if your case is the same
@@ClownHoundII or 20+ hours... (why we needed to catch a dusclops for the main quest to progress, I'll never know, but in a shiny only challenge where I can only catch and use shinies, it's agonizing. I'm up to 5 drifloons before a single shiny duskull/dusclops and I've been hunting for 20 hours D:)
Just imagine what reaction you would get if during Ruby/Sapphire, Wally finds a shiny Ralts then throws out a shiny Zigzagoon. Or for any other catching tutorials.
@RaceBandit Funny story: I was playing HeartGold randomizer and in the catching tutorial the girl actually killed the pokemon and turned to me and said; "you'll probably have to lower the pokemon's health more than I did." 😂😂😂 It was an edited version of the game, obviously cause it was randomized with UPR, but still. 😅😂😅😂😅
@@littleevsamoyed7130 | That's probably the easiest to manipulate if you scramble the levelup moves. I had a seed where Lyra obliterated a Clefairy with a Delibird's Blizzard.
8:43 holy f*** this exact scenario happened to me, _WITH A GARDEVOIR_ It was in Gateway Collosseum where I could've actually obtained it, but they didn't send it.
In PLA, I missed out on a shiny zubat because i was doing the wyrdeer racing minigame. In order to get off, I had to reload the area, getting rid of the shiny.
Last year I was hunting for a shiny Mudkip in Pokémon Ruby, and did it happen to came a uncatchable shiny Poochyena. I was so frustrated and traumatized, that I stoped the hunt and never ever came back.
I was insanely lucky that I found my 1st shiny hunt very close to a few houer marks. (Treeko) next one I met unchatable phocy 2 times before I found mudkip. 😅
A thing I love about this channel is it takes deepdives into cool concepts that not many people talk much about. and its such a shame there is a lack of these videos on the platform in my eyes. Edit: I never knew that the Marowak could be shiny
@@JFlash727 also i know someone in EternalRadiant’s server with footage of shiny shadow Giratina with the username WanderingTyphlosion but i cannot remember if he said he removed the shiny lock or not
@@KrazyPugz I just checked, not too sure if they got it, or it was just a clip they were reposting. Either way, the info about this seems extremely mixed.
pretty sure any shiny you find before and after the first rival battle in RSE and ORAS counts as uncatchable, as you aren't given pokeballs until you return to the professor's lab
It's quite notable to mention there's uncatchable Shinies in G/S/C and HG/SS prior to when you unlock access to Pokéballs after the first Rival Battle and the catching tutorial on Route 29 which are several route deep into the game. You have to get the Pokédex first to even get Pokéballs. I remember this happening to me in Soul Silver.
Oh yeah, I rather not talk about this again, but my first Pokémon game was Gold and the very first Pokémon I met was shiny Hoothoot. I am traumatized by this to these days (and thanks JFlash for reminding it to me at the beginning of this video). It didn't hurt that much back then, since I did not realised it's shiny, but after meeting anothe Hoothoot, it hit me like a freight train. And it's now, in retrospect, even more frustrating, because I did not get another shiny until Pokémon Ruby where I met shiny Zigzagoon, this time, fortunately, after getting Pokéballs.
Yooo I met that very same hoothoot! Booted up a vc game of crystal recently, and I encountered one before I could even get to Mr. Pokémon’s house. I will never forgive gen 2 beginning area for putting you through so many long grass sections without pokeballs. 😭
Technically, you CAN catch a single Battle Tower shiny (only if it's ISN'T the first one in the opposing trainer's party) by using the Battle Tower Lati@s glitch. But it requires some serious setup and a lot of moving parts.
This video is just pain for shiny hunters. I never knew there was uncatchable shiny Pokémon other than the professor in Pokémon black and white having one in the first cutscene
1:26 now THAT brings back memories. I got an uncatchable shiny Hoothoot on my first ever play through of silver. Last few steps of grass before obtaining Poké balls. I remember being so upset that I ended up recording myself killing it so I could forever remember it hahaha. It was my first ever 1/8192 shiny
My brain totally jumbled “I remember being so upset I recorded myself killing it” into “I remember being so upset I recorded killing myself” and I was like “THAT’S SUCH AN OVERREACTION!! HOW TRAGIC!! HOW ARE THEY COMMENTING???”
Had the exact same experience less than a month ago. Even the recording part! It’s funny how many of us encountered the exact same hoothoot. I blame the long trek to Mr. Pokémon’s house. Why couldn’t they at least let us buy pokeballs from the mart on the way.
Idk if anyone has said this but I am pretty sure in Pokémon Black and White, during the Musical game in Nimbasa City, the NPC’s pokémon can show up as shiny! Your opponents in Pokestar studios, in B2W2, ALSO have shiny variants (even opponents that aren’t pokémon!)
I suppose it's worth mentioning, in Emerald you can, one time only, catch a Battle Factory Shiny under the specific circumstances of you having not caught your roaming Lati, and that the shiny opposing trainers' Pokémon is not the first mon they send out, so long as you lose that battle then your first wild encounter is the Roaming mon
Love the quality of the editing and the amount of research put into this!! The commentary was super engaging as well. This is so underrated, hope you get more subs cuz this is great work :DDD
I would like to add to the "Not having any pokeballs" by adding the more... Stinging circumstances of SGC, and HGSS. You don't even get pokeballs until you return the egg to Professor Elm. That doesn't stop the game from encountering shinies that are impossible to catch!
My brother and I watched this together and we were very impressed with the level of detail! Amazing job 🎉🎉🎉 Other than adding demos like ORAS and LGPE I have no notes!
Hey Rex! Thanks for watching! Glad you and your brother could have a good watch! Love your videos too :) In terms of the demos, I only didn’t include them cause technically you do own the pokemon at some point, but they get wiped when you reset the game. Bit of a grey area really, but for sure one I definitely considered putting in the video.
I actually found two shinies in a single Dynamax Adventure, being a Luxray and a Yveltal. This was also on my Normal Type Nuzlocke run of shield so I couldn't even use the Yveltal (It's just sitting in the box currently)
I've had this blurry memory of seeing a shiny bunnelby when I was a kid, but couldn't find it in my team or PC when booting up my old X save file. I now wonder if it was the tutorial one, or if I was just too stupid to catch it... First shiny I remember seeing
You forgot one, or technically two, In HeartGold & SoulSilver, you can actually see whether the starter Pokémon is Shiny before picking it. This means you can get all three shiny and only get to pick one.
I mention this at the end, under “common uncatchables” where there are instances (I didn’t list all of them, only a few) where you can find multiple shinies.
@ oh ok I saw your other replies too so I even went back to check the time stamps, but ok, it would have been cool to see that clip of the there of them shiny, thanks for clarifying though
Honorable mention Generation 7 Sun and Moon/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon has a QR scanner in which you can scan any shiny Pokémon but cannot be obtainable although it can be seen in the Pokédex
if i remember correctly 1 of the 2 gamecube games had it so you could technically UNCATCH your shiny when you cleansed it from being a shadow pokemon >_
I legit got Juniper’s Minccino to be an uncatchable Shiny on my very first playthrough of White, it was ridiculous. I wasn’t deep in the Shiny hunting trenches then, though, so I noticed and moved on. But in retrospect, that was wild.
As a kid, i found a shiny aggron in the hgss/platinum (i think specifically platinum?) battle factory Its one of the reasons why aggron is one of my favorite pokemon and favorite shinies, and i was lucky enough to reclaim it a few years back!
If we wanna get technical, we can include some instances in the Gen 1 games since while shinies do not appear in those games, the way shiny Pokémon are determined in Gen 2 allows for Gen 1 Pokémon to be shiny if they have the right DVs. Catching tutorial and ghost Marowak from RBY most likely have the chance to spawn with the DVs that would make them shiny upon being transferred, but that is simply something that can not be known to be a shiny without some sort of external tool and/or glitch.
there is a bug (of course) in the way wild pokemon are generated that prevents the DV spread that would allow them to be shiny there are exceptions, like fishing encounters and legendaries though, so I don't know if these two would be affected by the glitch or not
Such a dope video! I've been wondering myself about all the uncatchable shinies and I didnt know a lot of these! Not sure how much this counts, but in some of the Demos, you can find and catch shinies, however, since they're Demos, you can never truly keep them. Again, great video! Must have taken a lot of work!
For the demos, I only didn’t include them cause technically you do own the pokemon at some point, but they get wiped when you reset the game. Bit of a grey area really, but for sure one I definitely considered putting in the video. Thanks for watching! :)
I don't know if they're unobtainable, but there are apparently shiny Pokemon in the WiiWare Mystery Dungeon games. Never seen any footage or screenshots though. Shiny Celebi is also one of the only Pokemon in Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky that you can't recruit, although it's briefly in your team at two points. There is a newly discovered glitch that lets you generate any Pokemon from an egg (including normally unobtainable Pokemon like the aforementioned Shiny Celebi, Primal Dialga, Purple Kecleon, Wigglytuff's parents, etc). Shiny Celebi is of course also recruitable in Super Mystery Dungeon and DX. But I understand that the Shiny CelebI doesn't count, I just think she's notable for being the only shiny in the Explorer games
In the same Emerald playthrough I found both a shiny trapinch and Roselia in the Battle Pyramid. These were the only shinies I've ever found in the Gen 3 games and I played them many times over lol
in heart gold and soul silver, the starter pokemon can appear shiny before being selected. since you can see all three at once, but only choose one, it is possible for more than one of them to be shiny at once, making that another general uncatchable situation that wasn't mentioned within the video.
I was in the Battle Factory when a guy sent out a shiny Uncatchable Mr.Mime. It was a swagger psych up setup with a liechi berry and an Adamant nature. After that I ended up losing the round soon after with it, but it was so cool to use, even for a short while
Love the video. The uncatchable shinies I've gotten were the beginning zigzagoon and a shiny vileplume on the battle frontier, both on emerald. One thing, the colosseum shiny ISN't Uncachable. Since the PID of the pokemon gets locked in the first time you see it, but your opponent gets a new TID/SID in the second battle according to RNG seeds, there's six options 1: First battle, not shiny for opponent, not shiny for you (most common) 2: First battle, not shiny for opponent, shiny for you (1/8192 chance for your TIS/SID) 3: Second battle, not shiny for opponent, not shiny for you (most common) 4: Second battle, not shiny for opponent, shiny for you (1/8192 chance for your TID/SID. if you had caught it in the first battle it'd have been shiny as well) 5: Second battle, shiny for opponent, not shiny for you (1/8192 chance for your opponent's new TID/SID, but you were locked out of a shiny) 6: Second battle, shiny for opponent, shiny for you. (1/8192 chance for both your and your opponent's TID/SID, since both of you need to shiny check that's a 1/8192 * 1/8192 = 1/67108864 chance) TL:DR It is possible, but the chance is ONE in 67,108,864 AND the chance is locked since the first time you see the pokemon, so it'll always be shiny for you regardless if this happens. The extra luck comes from it being shiny for your opponent as well.
I addressed this in another comment, however due to the complexity of the topic and due to the fact that this video is intended for a wider audience, I didn’t go into much detail like you had. This is also why I linked the other video by OlIver_MKP. I did know this was this case, I researched this video for 7 months, but again, for simplicity reasons, I didn’t go into a huge amount of detail. Excellent detail though!
At the end you forgot in Gen 2 when your active box is filled up, you can't catch pokemon, so even if you hacked in 999 Master Ball, you still wouldn't be able to catch a shiny you'd encounter.
When I was like, 10-ish, I was playing Leaf Green and was grinding my starter in the grass to Viridian before grabbing Oak’s Parcel. I found a shiny Ratatta before I had access to purchase Pokéballs. It’s still the only (un-hunted) full-odds shiny i’ve ever come across in all my years playing Pokémon since I was like 5.
i'm more surprised by how many copies of the same game with new skins (sometimes) there are... and i'm actually surprised nintendo stopped selling 3 of the literal same game each time.
I remember being a young kid playing Platinum and seeing a trainer in one of the facilities send out a shiny Cacnea. I had no idea it was random chance. I just assumed some trainers had predetermined shiny Pokémon on their team, like the Espeon on R/S/E.
I have encountered the shiny zigzagoon in Wally's catching tutorial in Emerald. Which also happened to be my first playthrough of a pokemon game ever. I at the time didn't know it was shiny until my friends who were watching started freaking out about it.
THAT DAMN POOCHYENA!! First and only shiny I encountered by full odds for YEARS broke my little 10 year old heart. I stared at the screen looking at it for an hour and showed everybody. It hurt. That should've never been able to be shiny ugh
Great video! I assume you were only including RNG based shinies, however I'm pretty sure pokemon Crystal has a battle tower where in one of the available challenges a trainer is guaranteed to have a shiny espeon. Wanted to let you and everyone know.
I mean, there is also that SMALL part of Gen 2 where you have your starter but no pokeballs. And are free to go into the wild grass. Same goes for any entry in the series that has this.
4:40 If you wanna be technical, a shiny Shadow Pokémon COULD stay shiny if you have insane luck; a 1/67,108,864 chance. Would depend on your Trainer ID as well ofc.
I'm kind of surprised GF hasn't removed shiny pokemon altogether considering how they love to just remove gimmicks for no reason and their trend of just shiny locking pokemon since gen 5.
Encountered only one uncatchable which was a route shiny starly in D/P before getting pokéballs which made me super cautious whenever i start a new game to get pokéballs ASAP and minimize the encounters needed to get to that point. Also honorable mention to gen 2 PC mechanics. If a box is full in gen 1 and 2, the game won't allow you to catch pokémon (transfering to an empty box is a feature from gen 3 and onwards). So encountering a pokémon with a full party and a full box will have the game prevent you from catching more pokémon until you either have an empty slot in your party or switch to a box which isn't full. This means you can create a scenario where you are prevented from catching shiny pokémon, which actually isn't unreasonable to recreate since the box limit is also 20 as opposed to 30 (unless you are JP). While i was never caught out by this for shinies, it did cause me to fail nuzlocke encounters on multiple occasions when playing gen 1 and 2 games.
17:30 i found this shiny, i clipped it. also interestingly, i think it's only non shiny locked if you save and reset; when i was in giratina's room, i saved and went into the encounter, and it played the platinum origin forme music. then i reset the game because i wanted to hear the music again, but this time it played the generic legendary music and it was a shiny. i don't know why the music changed or why it wasn't shiny locked, but it seems like reloading the game in that room might remove the lock
Uncatchable shiny experience I had, specifically in Legends Arceus, was the guaranteed Alpha Magikarp in the Obsidian Fieldlands. I was slacking on ranking up, and if I was, then I would've been able to catch it when it was shiny for me. Still upset about it ngl
When playing Pokémon Scarlet/Violet, cutscenes can start playing seemingly randomly when nearing a Team Star base for example. I found a shiny during my playthrough and when i started running towards it, a cutscene started and despawned the nearby pokémon. TECHNICALLY not uncatchable, but very very unlucky
imagine finding a shiny in the spaceworld gold demo not only is it the ultimate uncatchble since you don't even have the game, nobody would believe you it even exists it technically happened to me when we were first doccumenting them
That gen 2 shiny hoothoot sprite at 1:27 was a jump scare, since I experienced that uncatchable shiny myself less then a month ago. Why did they make the trek to Mr. Pokémon’s house so long? 😭
I once had a horde encounter in X with a bunch of Geodudes in Victory Road, and one was shiny. They then proceeded to spam Magnitude… The shiny died to friendly fire on turn one, and there was nothing I could do about it. This was extra painful for me, as it was somehow the first legit chance-based shiny I had ever encountered, even though I’d been playing since gen2. Even with the multitudes of shinies I’ve gotten since, I’m still mad about it. :/
my first and only shiny encounter I've ever had run into before gen 6 was in Fire Red. I grabbed Oaks parcel from the PokeMart, ran down to pallet town, and on the last row of grass, i ran into a Rattata. IT WAS SHINY AND I WAS A SCRIPTED EVENT AWAY FROM GETTING POKEBALLS :'(
Technically in Coliseum there IS a chance that they send out a shadow pokemon, it's shiny, you catch it, and it is also shiny It would just mean needing to get two INCREDIBLY lucky rolls to the point that the chance is 1/67,108,864
I wonder if there's anyone out there who in their gen v playthrough got all three of the professor juniper shinies completely by chance and thought she just normally owned a shiny
Before you comment, please review 1:04, as I am NOT including ANY uncatchable Pokémon that are ALWAYS shiny. Also, the Shadow Giratina in BDSP CAN be shiny! Sorry about the inaccuracy everyone. Anyway, if you want to share some of the shiny uncatchables you know, even if always shiny, feel free!
Also, guys, I KNOW there are glitches in RSE and BDSP that let you catch uncatchable shinies. I mention this at the end of the video. There are also tutorials for them linked in the description below.
You forgot 1 more shiny maybe. I am not sure of it is 100% shiny, but during pokemon go fasion week 2024, i encounterd a shiny golbat from a npc trainer in a battle from a pokestop. Those pokemon can not be caught.
Actually, shouldn’t every Shiny Pokémon in Sleep be un catchable, since you can’t transfer them to GO or HOME? Well you do catch them, but you have to feed them in order to get them and much like the Safari Shinies, they can get full and flee. I suppose the better term is Untrasferrable.
@@electric_man17 nah if a shiny has to transferable to be counted as caught.
Then that would make shiny spinda from bdsp also not count since you can't transfer spinda to home because of bdsp shenanigans, which makes it more vague for no reason really.
I found an uncatchable shiny during the synchro machine tutorial
@@electric_man17 Correction: shiny Pokemon do not get full in Sleep- they will always join you after being fed once to ensure you can keep them
Wally's training Ralts is the most criminal to me, because when you battle him later, odds are it won't be shiny anymore.
Odds are in fact 100% that it won’t be shiny anymore. Enemy trainers’ Pokémon have hardcoded personality values which, among other things, dictate that they will never be shiny no matter what. Wally’s are no different; the Ralts rolled up for him to catch is just completely discarded by the game after that event battle.
"Odds are"? 😂 It is programmed to never be shiny after the initial capture.
@@topazlight1586yea he must think the Ralts has expired due to its color so he threw it away
@ Wally confirmed one of those kids who think shiny Pokémon are a glitch and KOs/releases them
It'd be kind of cool if it stayed shiny sigh
I was soft resetting Brilliant Diamond for an Adamant Turtwig.
I got the fking shiny Starly before an Adamant Turtwig
I encountered a Shiny Bidoof in Legends Arceus right at the beginning of the game when first entering Obsidian Fieldlands. It was uncatchable because getting near triggered a conversation with Rei, after that conversation the Shiny Bidoof was gone :D
I remember getting a battle cutscene with the bandit girls right when I saw a shiny riolu, but when I ended the battle the shinynwas still there. Dont know if your case is the same
same thing happened with me at the beginning of the game with the shiny alpha rapidash :[
well considering its legends arceus, you'll probably find another one in 10 minutes
@@hatyyy Or 10 hours if they haven't completed the dex to get the shiny charm.
@@ClownHoundII or 20+ hours... (why we needed to catch a dusclops for the main quest to progress, I'll never know, but in a shiny only challenge where I can only catch and use shinies, it's agonizing. I'm up to 5 drifloons before a single shiny duskull/dusclops and I've been hunting for 20 hours D:)
12:31 NO WAY I WAS SPECIFICALLY EXPECTING YOU TO MISS MAGIKARP JUMP AND YOU DID INCLUDE IT OH MY GOD
Magikarp Jump moment 🎣
Magikarp jump mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
Someone out there had a shiny zigzagoon and ralts in the catching scene and no one will ever believe them
That’s a large fraction, so large that it may literally never happen again in recorded history
or will have, and they will forget to screenshot it, and even if they do, everyone will think they boosted the shiny odds
I committed to not starting Brilliant Diamond before I got a shiny Chimchar. I got 9 shiny Starly. This gave me PTSD lol
I think the most annoying part about Wally getting a shiny Ralts is that he doesn't keep it. It just becomes a normal Ralts.
Just imagine what reaction you would get if during Ruby/Sapphire, Wally finds a shiny Ralts then throws out a shiny Zigzagoon. Or for any other catching tutorials.
Slip in the rare chance for IVs to line up in a way where he kills the Ralts.
@RaceBandit
Funny story: I was playing HeartGold randomizer and in the catching tutorial the girl actually killed the pokemon and turned to me and said; "you'll probably have to lower the pokemon's health more than I did." 😂😂😂
It was an edited version of the game, obviously cause it was randomized with UPR, but still. 😅😂😅😂😅
@@littleevsamoyed7130 | That's probably the easiest to manipulate if you scramble the levelup moves. I had a seed where Lyra obliterated a Clefairy with a Delibird's Blizzard.
8:43 holy f*** this exact scenario happened to me, _WITH A GARDEVOIR_
It was in Gateway Collosseum where I could've actually obtained it, but they didn't send it.
Id be pulling my hair out man 😭
In PLA, I missed out on a shiny zubat because i was doing the wyrdeer racing minigame. In order to get off, I had to reload the area, getting rid of the shiny.
Last year I was hunting for a shiny Mudkip in Pokémon Ruby, and did it happen to came a uncatchable shiny Poochyena. I was so frustrated and traumatized, that I stoped the hunt and never ever came back.
I was insanely lucky that I found my 1st shiny hunt very close to a few houer marks. (Treeko) next one I met unchatable phocy 2 times before I found mudkip. 😅
I actually had the unfortunate luck in Emerald to get a shiny Metagross in the Battle Factory. Was bittersweet to have to return it
A thing I love about this channel is it takes deepdives into cool concepts that not many people talk much about. and its such a shame there is a lack of these videos on the platform in my eyes.
Edit: I never knew that the Marowak could be shiny
Thanks for the kind words :)
@@JFlash727 also i know someone in EternalRadiant’s server with footage of shiny shadow Giratina with the username WanderingTyphlosion but i cannot remember if he said he removed the shiny lock or not
@@KrazyPugz I just checked, not too sure if they got it, or it was just a clip they were reposting. Either way, the info about this seems extremely mixed.
There are quite a few videos going over the same topic this video does. You haven't been searching hard enough.
@@GlacierStripez don’t worry, We worked together to answer the question
Appreciate the magikarp jump representation throughout the video
pretty sure any shiny you find before and after the first rival battle in RSE and ORAS counts as uncatchable, as you aren't given pokeballs until you return to the professor's lab
What does RSE stand for
@@TheTrashmanakadannydevito Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald
I agree with this statement. Having run into a Shiny Poochyena while on my way to fight the rival for the first time in Emerald.
My first full odds shiny EVER in ANY Pokemon game was a Ludicolo at the battle factory and I nearly threw my game boy to the ground in fury
It's quite notable to mention there's uncatchable Shinies in G/S/C and HG/SS prior to when you unlock access to Pokéballs after the first Rival Battle and the catching tutorial on Route 29 which are several route deep into the game. You have to get the Pokédex first to even get Pokéballs. I remember this happening to me in Soul Silver.
I mention this under common uncatchables at the end of the video
I am haunted by a shiny sentret I couldn’t catch because I didn’t make it to a store to get balls first in heartgold. I was so upset as a kid.
Oh yeah, I rather not talk about this again, but my first Pokémon game was Gold and the very first Pokémon I met was shiny Hoothoot. I am traumatized by this to these days (and thanks JFlash for reminding it to me at the beginning of this video). It didn't hurt that much back then, since I did not realised it's shiny, but after meeting anothe Hoothoot, it hit me like a freight train. And it's now, in retrospect, even more frustrating, because I did not get another shiny until Pokémon Ruby where I met shiny Zigzagoon, this time, fortunately, after getting Pokéballs.
Yooo I met that very same hoothoot! Booted up a vc game of crystal recently, and I encountered one before I could even get to Mr. Pokémon’s house. I will never forgive gen 2 beginning area for putting you through so many long grass sections without pokeballs. 😭
Technically, you CAN catch a single Battle Tower shiny (only if it's ISN'T the first one in the opposing trainer's party) by using the Battle Tower Lati@s glitch. But it requires some serious setup and a lot of moving parts.
I mention this at the end of the video, the tutorial is linked in the description below.
Dude, your videos are super underrated. Absolutely loved this one!
I never realised howdeep this sort of "rabbit hole" was and definitely enjoyed learning more about the topic.
This video is just pain for shiny hunters. I never knew there was uncatchable shiny Pokémon other than the professor in Pokémon black and white having one in the first cutscene
1:26 now THAT brings back memories. I got an uncatchable shiny Hoothoot on my first ever play through of silver. Last few steps of grass before obtaining Poké balls. I remember being so upset that I ended up recording myself killing it so I could forever remember it hahaha. It was my first ever 1/8192 shiny
My brain totally jumbled “I remember being so upset I recorded myself killing it” into “I remember being so upset I recorded killing myself” and I was like “THAT’S SUCH AN OVERREACTION!! HOW TRAGIC!! HOW ARE THEY COMMENTING???”
Had the exact same experience less than a month ago. Even the recording part! It’s funny how many of us encountered the exact same hoothoot. I blame the long trek to Mr. Pokémon’s house. Why couldn’t they at least let us buy pokeballs from the mart on the way.
I really hated how the Zeraora raid event in Sword and Shield was forced to be shiny... At least they gave out Shiny Zeraora shortly after
I sadly didn’t obtain this event shiny because I didn’t have a phone at the time
the entire point of the event was to give away a shiny zeraora
@@scrunkore But having it in raids at the time... and uncatchable at that... kinda odd
Idk if anyone has said this but I am pretty sure in Pokémon Black and White, during the Musical game in Nimbasa City, the NPC’s pokémon can show up as shiny! Your opponents in Pokestar studios, in B2W2, ALSO have shiny variants (even opponents that aren’t pokémon!)
Spending 7 months for 1 video topic, that’s dedication, I can’t help but respect it
I suppose it's worth mentioning, in Emerald you can, one time only, catch a Battle Factory Shiny under the specific circumstances of you having not caught your roaming Lati, and that the shiny opposing trainers' Pokémon is not the first mon they send out, so long as you lose that battle then your first wild encounter is the Roaming mon
Did they not patch the Lati glitch in Emerald? I'm fairly certain it's exclusive to Ruby/Sapphire and thus only works with the Battle Tower.
I have this linked in the description yup, I spoke about this at the end of the video.
Love the quality of the editing and the amount of research put into this!! The commentary was super engaging as well. This is so underrated, hope you get more subs cuz this is great work :DDD
I would like to add to the "Not having any pokeballs" by adding the more... Stinging circumstances of SGC, and HGSS.
You don't even get pokeballs until you return the egg to Professor Elm. That doesn't stop the game from encountering shinies that are impossible to catch!
My brother and I watched this together and we were very impressed with the level of detail! Amazing job 🎉🎉🎉
Other than adding demos like ORAS and LGPE I have no notes!
Hey Rex! Thanks for watching! Glad you and your brother could have a good watch! Love your videos too :)
In terms of the demos, I only didn’t include them cause technically you do own the pokemon at some point, but they get wiped when you reset the game. Bit of a grey area really, but for sure one I definitely considered putting in the video.
6:45 HOW HAVE I NEVER SEEN SHINY SEVIPER?? THATS SUCH A COOL SHINY
I actually found two shinies in a single Dynamax Adventure, being a Luxray and a Yveltal. This was also on my Normal Type Nuzlocke run of shield so I couldn't even use the Yveltal (It's just sitting in the box currently)
That exact shiny poochyena was my first genuine shiny encounter, I was so upset I couldn’t do anything about it but to beat it to submission
I've had this blurry memory of seeing a shiny bunnelby when I was a kid, but couldn't find it in my team or PC when booting up my old X save file. I now wonder if it was the tutorial one, or if I was just too stupid to catch it... First shiny I remember seeing
I got a shiny porygon 2 in the battle factory in emerald. I've never been so hyped and then the realisation dawned that I can't see it for long lol
You forgot one, or technically two, In HeartGold & SoulSilver, you can actually see whether the starter Pokémon is Shiny before picking it. This means you can get all three shiny and only get to pick one.
I mention this at the end, under “common uncatchables” where there are instances (I didn’t list all of them, only a few) where you can find multiple shinies.
@ oh ok I saw your other replies too so I even went back to check the time stamps, but ok, it would have been cool to see that clip of the there of them shiny, thanks for clarifying though
I really wouldn't have minded the shiny Ralts in Wally's catching tutorial if his gardevoir had remained shiny but unfortunately we live in a society
Honorable mention
Generation 7 Sun and Moon/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon has a QR scanner in which you can scan any shiny Pokémon but cannot be obtainable although it can be seen in the Pokédex
The reason these weren’t in the video is because when scanned, they will always be shiny, which I mentioned in the intro. But cool fact!
if i remember correctly 1 of the 2 gamecube games had it so you could technically UNCATCH your shiny when you cleansed it from being a shadow pokemon >_
That'd also be colo, XD has shadows entirely shiny locked (but any non-shinies aren't locked)
That is a myth. Pokemon PIDs don't change when you purify them, so they'll never stop being shiny.
I legit got Juniper’s Minccino to be an uncatchable Shiny on my very first playthrough of White, it was ridiculous. I wasn’t deep in the Shiny hunting trenches then, though, so I noticed and moved on. But in retrospect, that was wild.
Well, at least knowing this makes getting that shiny poochyena during the intro battle in gen3 feel a bit better lol
As a kid, i found a shiny aggron in the hgss/platinum (i think specifically platinum?) battle factory
Its one of the reasons why aggron is one of my favorite pokemon and favorite shinies, and i was lucky enough to reclaim it a few years back!
If we wanna get technical, we can include some instances in the Gen 1 games since while shinies do not appear in those games, the way shiny Pokémon are determined in Gen 2 allows for Gen 1 Pokémon to be shiny if they have the right DVs. Catching tutorial and ghost Marowak from RBY most likely have the chance to spawn with the DVs that would make them shiny upon being transferred, but that is simply something that can not be known to be a shiny without some sort of external tool and/or glitch.
there is a bug (of course) in the way wild pokemon are generated that prevents the DV spread that would allow them to be shiny
there are exceptions, like fishing encounters and legendaries though, so I don't know if these two would be affected by the glitch or not
12:52 I swear that I honestly saw a shiny Corsula and Luvdisc in the same food fever. And yet... I've never caught a shiny in a mainline game 🥲
Such a dope video! I've been wondering myself about all the uncatchable shinies and I didnt know a lot of these!
Not sure how much this counts, but in some of the Demos, you can find and catch shinies, however, since they're Demos, you can never truly keep them.
Again, great video! Must have taken a lot of work!
For the demos, I only didn’t include them cause technically you do own the pokemon at some point, but they get wiped when you reset the game. Bit of a grey area really, but for sure one I definitely considered putting in the video. Thanks for watching! :)
@JFlash727 yeah I agree with your decision, much respect on the thorough research 🙏
I don't know if they're unobtainable, but there are apparently shiny Pokemon in the WiiWare Mystery Dungeon games. Never seen any footage or screenshots though.
Shiny Celebi is also one of the only Pokemon in Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky that you can't recruit, although it's briefly in your team at two points. There is a newly discovered glitch that lets you generate any Pokemon from an egg (including normally unobtainable Pokemon like the aforementioned Shiny Celebi, Primal Dialga, Purple Kecleon, Wigglytuff's parents, etc).
Shiny Celebi is of course also recruitable in Super Mystery Dungeon and DX.
But I understand that the Shiny CelebI doesn't count, I just think she's notable for being the only shiny in the Explorer games
Amazing video also you will get to 7k by the end of the year trust 🤞
The best uncatchable pokemon is the friends we made along the way 😊
I once found a shiny Zigzagoon on my way to battle May with my starter... before I could even get Poke Balls. I was so upset.
1:40 the catching tutorial back sprite looks scuffed, like something a fan game would have
In the same Emerald playthrough I found both a shiny trapinch and Roselia in the Battle Pyramid. These were the only shinies I've ever found in the Gen 3 games and I played them many times over lol
in heart gold and soul silver, the starter pokemon can appear shiny before being selected. since you can see all three at once, but only choose one, it is possible for more than one of them to be shiny at once, making that another general uncatchable situation that wasn't mentioned within the video.
I had only listed a few examples. There are many more, like this one, where it can happen.
I was in the Battle Factory when a guy sent out a shiny Uncatchable Mr.Mime.
It was a swagger psych up setup with a liechi berry and an Adamant nature.
After that I ended up losing the round soon after with it, but it was so cool to use, even for a short while
6:35 I've been a victim of this... a trainer had a shiny Ninjask one time. The pain was endless 😭
Love the video. The uncatchable shinies I've gotten were the beginning zigzagoon and a shiny vileplume on the battle frontier, both on emerald.
One thing, the colosseum shiny ISN't Uncachable. Since the PID of the pokemon gets locked in the first time you see it, but your opponent gets a new TID/SID in the second battle according to RNG seeds, there's six options
1: First battle, not shiny for opponent, not shiny for you (most common)
2: First battle, not shiny for opponent, shiny for you (1/8192 chance for your TIS/SID)
3: Second battle, not shiny for opponent, not shiny for you (most common)
4: Second battle, not shiny for opponent, shiny for you (1/8192 chance for your TID/SID. if you had caught it in the first battle it'd have been shiny as well)
5: Second battle, shiny for opponent, not shiny for you (1/8192 chance for your opponent's new TID/SID, but you were locked out of a shiny)
6: Second battle, shiny for opponent, shiny for you. (1/8192 chance for both your and your opponent's TID/SID, since both of you need to shiny check that's a 1/8192 * 1/8192 = 1/67108864 chance)
TL:DR It is possible, but the chance is ONE in 67,108,864 AND the chance is locked since the first time you see the pokemon, so it'll always be shiny for you regardless if this happens. The extra luck comes from it being shiny for your opponent as well.
I addressed this in another comment, however due to the complexity of the topic and due to the fact that this video is intended for a wider audience, I didn’t go into much detail like you had. This is also why I linked the other video by OlIver_MKP. I did know this was this case, I researched this video for 7 months, but again, for simplicity reasons, I didn’t go into a huge amount of detail. Excellent detail though!
Amazing video loved it!
ayeee JFlash banger
I swear to god, literally my first encounter on my brilliant diamond was a shiny bidoof. I was...speechless
21:08 Pretty sure I've caught a shiny Pokemon that spawned in a horde battle by knocking out every other Pokemon first.
Im talking about finding two shinies in one horde, not one.
This video made me realize that the shiny Meowth I saw in the Ruby Battle Tower all those years ago was full odds and not guaranteed. 😢
At the end you forgot in Gen 2 when your active box is filled up, you can't catch pokemon, so even if you hacked in 999 Master Ball, you still wouldn't be able to catch a shiny you'd encounter.
I’ve seen the shiny luvdisc in magikarp jump around 3 times! It’s such a fun thing to keep an eye out for :)
When I was like, 10-ish, I was playing Leaf Green and was grinding my starter in the grass to Viridian before grabbing Oak’s Parcel.
I found a shiny Ratatta before I had access to purchase Pokéballs.
It’s still the only (un-hunted) full-odds shiny i’ve ever come across in all my years playing Pokémon since I was like 5.
I love my uncatchable Shiny Corsola that I found in Pokemon Stadium 2 and my uncatchable shiny Cresselia from Battle Revolution
8:39 oh my goodness whoomp there it is!!!
12:55 there it is again!
I briefly had an uncatchable shiny Luxio while playing Battle Revolution as a kid.
@@hawktalon7890 Which battle facility?
@@TheSalamanderMenace4 I think it was the first one? Honestly not quite sure but that sounds about right, it was years ago.
If you take a shot every time he says chance of it happening, you'll die from alcohol poisoning.
LMAO I should totally try this (this would be a horrible idea)
Also, if you have trouble pronouncing the number, it’s pronounced like this: One in Eight-thousand one-hundred eighty-two.
@@KevinTheFluffyWolfy you mean ninety-two? 💀
If any shiny Pokémon runs away make sure you save your team because if you reset your game, it’ll be back
I had the Starly show up as shiny when I did try Shiny Hunting Piplup in BDSP.
YESSS MAGIKARP JUMP MENTION LETS GOOO
In case anyone was curious, the odds of both Norman’s Zigzagoon and Wally’s Ralts being shiny at the same time are *one in 67,108,864.*
i'm more surprised by how many copies of the same game with new skins (sometimes) there are...
and i'm actually surprised nintendo stopped selling 3 of the literal same game each time.
Your video gave me anxiety. So i guess you did a great job showing and explaining. 😂❤
I remember being a young kid playing Platinum and seeing a trainer in one of the facilities send out a shiny Cacnea. I had no idea it was random chance. I just assumed some trainers had predetermined shiny Pokémon on their team, like the Espeon on R/S/E.
Horde encounters in X and Y can sometimes have multiple shinies.
@@singsongsign I mention this at the end of the video yup
@@JFlash727 I guess I missed that.
YOU CAN MAKE A BIBAREL BRIDGE IN ARCEUS?!?!?!?!?!
YUP LOL
Advanced methods of torture in the Pokemon world
I have encountered the shiny zigzagoon in Wally's catching tutorial in Emerald. Which also happened to be my first playthrough of a pokemon game ever. I at the time didn't know it was shiny until my friends who were watching started freaking out about it.
THAT DAMN POOCHYENA!! First and only shiny I encountered by full odds for YEARS broke my little 10 year old heart. I stared at the screen looking at it for an hour and showed everybody. It hurt. That should've never been able to be shiny ugh
As someone who has watched a certain UA-camr go for uncatchable shines, I thought I knew about every uncatchable shiny.
Always a good day when JFlash drops another banger 😎 (all of them are bangers, they're all great)
Great video! I assume you were only including RNG based shinies, however I'm pretty sure pokemon Crystal has a battle tower where in one of the available challenges a trainer is guaranteed to have a shiny espeon. Wanted to let you and everyone know.
Well uh, this is awkward. 1:04 But yep, only RNG based shinies.
@JFlash727 Ah my apologies. I must have missed that segment.
I mean, there is also that SMALL part of Gen 2 where you have your starter but no pokeballs.
And are free to go into the wild grass.
Same goes for any entry in the series that has this.
4:40 If you wanna be technical, a shiny Shadow Pokémon COULD stay shiny if you have insane luck; a 1/67,108,864 chance. Would depend on your Trainer ID as well ofc.
Glad you mentioned this! It’s for sure why I linked people to Oliver’s video to learn more than the small comments I made!
the amount of shiny strong foes I've failed even with the friend bow in my party is painful to admit...
It'd be awesome if Wally's Ralts remained shiny in later battles.
You can only keep one shiny if you find multiple shiny Pokémon in the Bug-Catching Contest in the Johto games (GSC/HGSS).
Ah, very cool!
I'm kind of surprised GF hasn't removed shiny pokemon altogether considering how they love to just remove gimmicks for no reason and their trend of just shiny locking pokemon since gen 5.
Encountered only one uncatchable which was a route shiny starly in D/P before getting pokéballs which made me super cautious whenever i start a new game to get pokéballs ASAP and minimize the encounters needed to get to that point.
Also honorable mention to gen 2 PC mechanics.
If a box is full in gen 1 and 2, the game won't allow you to catch pokémon (transfering to an empty box is a feature from gen 3 and onwards). So encountering a pokémon with a full party and a full box will have the game prevent you from catching more pokémon until you either have an empty slot in your party or switch to a box which isn't full.
This means you can create a scenario where you are prevented from catching shiny pokémon, which actually isn't unreasonable to recreate since the box limit is also 20 as opposed to 30 (unless you are JP).
While i was never caught out by this for shinies, it did cause me to fail nuzlocke encounters on multiple occasions when playing gen 1 and 2 games.
17:30 i found this shiny, i clipped it. also interestingly, i think it's only non shiny locked if you save and reset; when i was in giratina's room, i saved and went into the encounter, and it played the platinum origin forme music. then i reset the game because i wanted to hear the music again, but this time it played the generic legendary music and it was a shiny. i don't know why the music changed or why it wasn't shiny locked, but it seems like reloading the game in that room might remove the lock
@YupYupTRP doubt that’s the case about the reloading, however I did correct myself in the pinned comment.
@@JFlash727 oh ok, the reloading might still be why the music changed though
In the ultra games, you can encounter a shiny before the proffessor even gives you pokeballs, this happened to me..........
Uncatchable shiny experience I had, specifically in Legends Arceus, was the guaranteed Alpha Magikarp in the Obsidian Fieldlands. I was slacking on ranking up, and if I was, then I would've been able to catch it when it was shiny for me. Still upset about it ngl
Babe, wake up! New JFlash video just dropped!!
Check your magikarp jump anyways, coward.
When playing Pokémon Scarlet/Violet, cutscenes can start playing seemingly randomly when nearing a Team Star base for example.
I found a shiny during my playthrough and when i started running towards it, a cutscene started and despawned the nearby pokémon.
TECHNICALLY not uncatchable, but very very unlucky
imagine finding a shiny in the spaceworld gold demo
not only is it the ultimate uncatchble since you don't even have the game, nobody would believe you it even exists
it technically happened to me when we were first doccumenting them
When i was shiny hunting before, i understood how it actually works i encountered that shiny poch twice...
That gen 2 shiny hoothoot sprite at 1:27 was a jump scare, since I experienced that uncatchable shiny myself less then a month ago. Why did they make the trek to Mr. Pokémon’s house so long? 😭
I once had a horde encounter in X with a bunch of Geodudes in Victory Road, and one was shiny. They then proceeded to spam Magnitude… The shiny died to friendly fire on turn one, and there was nothing I could do about it. This was extra painful for me, as it was somehow the first legit chance-based shiny I had ever encountered, even though I’d been playing since gen2. Even with the multitudes of shinies I’ve gotten since, I’m still mad about it. :/
Majikarp jump is also the only instance where u are forced to release a shiny
my first and only shiny encounter I've ever had run into before gen 6 was in Fire Red. I grabbed Oaks parcel from the PokeMart, ran down to pallet town, and on the last row of grass, i ran into a Rattata. IT WAS SHINY AND I WAS A SCRIPTED EVENT AWAY FROM GETTING POKEBALLS :'(
Technically in Coliseum there IS a chance that they send out a shadow pokemon, it's shiny, you catch it, and it is also shiny
It would just mean needing to get two INCREDIBLY lucky rolls to the point that the chance is 1/67,108,864
I wonder if there's anyone out there who in their gen v playthrough got all three of the professor juniper shinies completely by chance and thought she just normally owned a shiny