What's the BEST home server operating system?

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  • In this video, we'll take a closer look at the operating system that you might want to run on your home server, such as Linux, Windows, Hypervisors or NAS Systems. I'll explain which options I think are the best, and in which situation they make the most sense for a beginner or pro. Let's explore and evaluate some of the best operating systems for home servers. #homelab #homeserver #operatingsystem
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 618

  • @theshazman
    @theshazman Рік тому +17

    Christian if it wasnt for your videos I would have never gotten the courage and motivation to install linux, portainer, and a ton of containerized services. Our home has been transformed. Greatly appreciate the awesome content you make. Thanks for everything!

  • @nkreadly1989
    @nkreadly1989 Рік тому +67

    Been going through the same exploration myself for the past 15 years and I am proud to say, we have similar setups. I just wish your content was available then like it is now. Regardless, love your channel. It’s on my top recommendations for family and friends who are interested in this space. Videos are inspiring and keeps me motivated to continue to learn. Thanks for sharing.

    • @infotechsailor
      @infotechsailor 27 днів тому

      Don’t like his explanation of why he doesn’t like hyper V. Uhhh it had limited features 15 years ago. Well duh

  • @mikehathaway3659
    @mikehathaway3659 Рік тому +231

    The best home server is two servers. One that is a NAS and the other is for Virtual Machines. Proxmox and TrueNAS are what I consider the top option. The reason for this, the NAS is you backup system. Proxmox backs up to the nas. If you only have one machine then you have no backup. I think a lot of people pushing what is the best for everything are leading new homelabbers down the path of data loss.

    • @andreu6700
      @andreu6700 Рік тому +12

      You can have both on one server, for example in poxmox if you have two discs you can have a backup server on one disk and do the virtualization on the other or simply a raid

    • @mnemonic6047
      @mnemonic6047 11 місяців тому +7

      @@andreu6700 run proxmox / esxi as the main os, and have a hardware raid within the same server, that's where i'm going

    • @michaelrogers3857
      @michaelrogers3857 11 місяців тому +3

      Makes sense to me, thanks for the comment, im looking to make a small home server for me and my housemates so we can share school files and also run pihole and a minecraft server for us, im thinking Ubuntu server but im not very adept with the command line so i might just use the normal Ubuntu with the desktop stuff. What do you think?

    • @michaelrogers3857
      @michaelrogers3857 11 місяців тому +1

      Makes sense to me, thanks for the comment, im looking to make a small home server for me and my housemates so we can share school files and also run pihole and a minecraft server for us, im thinking Ubuntu server but im not very adept with the command line so i might just use the normal Ubuntu with the desktop stuff. What do you think?

    • @adriancoanda9227
      @adriancoanda9227 10 місяців тому +1

      Whst will you do if you have Amprere dev kit hardware 😂

  • @kf4bzt
    @kf4bzt Рік тому +39

    Hi Christian. Thanks for the video. I am running Proxmox on three workstations in a cluster with HA and TrueNAS Scale on its own workstation. I found the Dell and HP workstations were cheaper and work really well for what I do in my home / lab. I really enjoy your videos and look forward to more.

  • @b.lemire7453
    @b.lemire7453 Рік тому +1

    This is very timely and helpful as I am going to build my first home server this week. Thank you!

  • @GothicPotato2
    @GothicPotato2 7 місяців тому +3

    Gotta say, this was a fantastic video and I really appreciated the deep walk through on each option and why one might go with each of them. The fact that your choice wasn’t the choice you recommended for starting out, with an explanation of why, just really cemented your credibility. Glad I came across your channel and you’ve earned a subscriber!

  • @jannisberry4040
    @jannisberry4040 Рік тому +4

    Thanks man i am trying to build my own NAS system and wasnt really sure how, i looked into TrueNas Core but now that you mentioned TrueNAS Scale i looked up the differences and it is a really great piece of software exactly for what i need.

  • @Theborg72
    @Theborg72 Рік тому

    thanks.. always fun to see your clips and ideas, can agree with you on this choice both with proxmox and truenas, looking forward to the next upload

  • @MacVilleLP
    @MacVilleLP Рік тому +115

    I‘m using UnRaid for my HomeServer setup. As NAS, HyperVisor and Docker Host. It‘s fun to work with and a huge Community if there are questions.

    • @veneratedmortal4369
      @veneratedmortal4369 Рік тому +6

      It's the most flexible for my array of old random drives as well.

    • @M3PH11
      @M3PH11 Рік тому +4

      Unraid is too expensive. FreeNAS scale seems to do a equally good job and is free.

    • @veneratedmortal4369
      @veneratedmortal4369 Рік тому +14

      @@Anuitu2u the unraid file system means most normal people can just throw together an array with old drives they already own. to use ZFS you need alike drives that are decent. That alone makes it cheap. Plus the support it gives makes it worth it. Free is not cheap, unraid is only $60. People need to eat, and need money to develop stuff.

    • @Anuitu2u
      @Anuitu2u Рік тому

      @@veneratedmortal4369 then, I'm more cheap than any of that.
      I didn't know the advantages of unRAID filesystem yet. And, even ProXmox have zfs capability, I didn't use that.
      Forget about $60, sorry, but my whole setup probably less than that amount money.
      Maybe, if I use a server scale hardware, unRAID is one of the choice. So, I'm really thankful to the ProXmox developers here, they make a really good product for free.

    • @curtispavlovec
      @curtispavlovec Рік тому +5

      Do you think UnRAID is good to use for a simple home setup with no extra disks or anything? Basically just using the hyper to run several OS not really for the NAS stuff. Any thoughts? $60 isn’t bad and I’m willing to buy just wondering if it’s worth the investment for future use maybe even if I’m not doing much with it now.

  • @leopard3131
    @leopard3131 Рік тому +117

    I have been using Proxmox for years and I highly advise it. The web interface is fantastic and simplifies server management and backups. Personally I use LXC (containers) as they have less overhead than KVM for most internal services. I do use KVM for outward services as Personally I like selinux for security.
    Speaking of security I think that is a consideration on servers and I would highly advise using selinux or apparmor.
    Another option if one wants to run a few servers such as a web server is to use one of the various services such as linode. For a basic server they are less expensive than hardware and there is the additional cost in that most internet providers limit upload speed unless you upgrade the basic service.
    I stopped running windows servers decades ago the cost is too high.

    • @Hazmatguy117
      @Hazmatguy117 8 місяців тому +3

      I’ll second that, I’m using an old Dell R610 with proxmox. My firewall, private Minecraft server and other various file sharing/backups are managed from that one hypervisor.

    • @MrAwesomeTony
      @MrAwesomeTony 6 місяців тому

      @@Hazmatguy117 Mine are similar, but I thought about putting firewall in the all-in-boom, but I just got a another chasis and threw my old hardware there to run OPNSense on top of Proxmox. Just what if it got destroyed.

  • @NghiaTran-er5mp
    @NghiaTran-er5mp Рік тому

    Can't wait for the next video ! I'm starting with some NAS stuffs but now Hypervisors make me excited to try since it sounds much more controlled and can build many stuffs on. Wait for the next video so I can feel more confident building my very first home server.

  • @kwiatriot6190
    @kwiatriot6190 Рік тому +1

    16:30-17:00 is 🔥🔥. The best tips on the video! Just found you last month, keep up the amazing content! Danke!

  • @Silent1Majority
    @Silent1Majority Рік тому

    Clear, honest, informative and well articulated. Thank you.

  • @bluesquadron593
    @bluesquadron593 Рік тому +11

    Some folks mentioned Unraid. I would put that on the same level as TrueNAS. Slightly different target group, but what makes it really strong is the huge community behind it. All being said, I have switched to TrueNAS bare matal and Proxmox HA cluster on HP Thinclients myself. I also have few services running in cloud.

  • @troy.s
    @troy.s Рік тому +21

    Glad I watched to the end for the mention of XCP-ng, though I think it deserved a spot in the hypervisor chapter.
    IMO, it's a best-of-breed system, especially when combined with Xen Orchestra. Anyone who is serious about using their homelab as a learning platform would be well served by spending some quality time with it.

  • @sale666
    @sale666 Рік тому +4

    I have windows server 2022 using docker, jellyfin for win, gaming server for 7 days to die, hyper v runing fedora, pi hole etc.
    Trust me its 10000x faster to setup than linux and has less issues! I have been runing 3 years 24/7 its great!

  • @ToKiBitch
    @ToKiBitch Рік тому

    Great video. I´m running Proxmox on my HomeServer, and I love to learn more about Linux, and deploying new services for me and my Family on my Own.
    And you are so inspiring to me.
    Like your Content a lot, and looking forward for your next Video.
    Keep it up !

  • @markkoops2611
    @markkoops2611 Рік тому

    This is a great video, so far I've settled on Windows but this does present a great argument on alternative options

  • @LucS0042
    @LucS0042 Рік тому

    Looking forward to that tour!

  • @chrisumali9841
    @chrisumali9841 Рік тому

    Thanks for the discussion, demo and info, have a great day.

  • @stephenanthony5923
    @stephenanthony5923 10 місяців тому

    Just want to let you and the algo know that this is super valuable content. Thank you!

  • @tomstechnews
    @tomstechnews Рік тому +4

    Hi Christian. Thanks for the vid! My homelab consists of Proxmox VE+Backup Server (VM, LXC, Docker, Backup) and a Synology (NAS, data-backup, VMs, share+sync Data, video surveillance, Cloud sync., Photos, VPN, Wordpress). Synology is a very reliable, fast and secure homelab solution. All gui managed by DSM. A hint for your next vid: "battle" Synology vs TrueNAS. Have a good time !😀

  • @shanefeather-lopez5935
    @shanefeather-lopez5935 11 місяців тому +5

    Brilliant video.
    The most important tip I understood from all that is to stop looking for alternatives and just dive in - I have stalled on my new home lab project for the last 8 months now simply because I was too afraid of using the wrong thing and having to do it all again.

  • @frankgarcia5058
    @frankgarcia5058 Рік тому

    I'm glad i found your video and for sharing your experience. Thanks

  • @swagger1262
    @swagger1262 Рік тому

    This is truly define my entire cases. From Linux then Proxmox, finally I end up using TrueNAS Scale. Just want a simple home storage server with additional task. After watch this video I know I do not make a wrong decision. Love this video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @vezajin7738
    @vezajin7738 Рік тому

    Thank you for describing my own setup perfectly! :D Proxmox on my actual server with an Ubuntu VM and an rPi just running its own OS + docker

  • @matthewbond375
    @matthewbond375 Рік тому +4

    Building my first Proxmox machine changed everything for me in what I can do, and experiment with, at home. I highly recommend trying it out. You don't need a very powerful machine to spin up your first instance. Just as long as the CPU fully supports virtualization features, which is very common, but not universal.

  • @warker_de
    @warker_de Рік тому +1

    The recommendation to stop at some point looking for alternatives and go with your Solutions is really one of the Gold nuggets of this video! You'll get to this point after a long and hard journey. If you have too much time, sure take that path but the outcome will be less than using that time to master the Main components. .. And please.. don't jump on every hypetrain!
    A very good Video!

  • @KR1ML0N
    @KR1ML0N Рік тому +3

    i agree with christian, do whats good for you. There are so many things you can do, its best to determine your needs for hardware and projects and then go from there. Great video!

  • @eskieguy9355
    @eskieguy9355 Рік тому +7

    I've been using Open Media Vault for a while. One of it's advantages, is that you can take drives with data already on them, and build the NAS around them. Most of the other NAS platforms seem to want to wipe the drives to start with.
    I also built a small Ubuntu server at work. Thanks to the abundant resources on the web I was able to do it successfully. Although, my advice is to keep track of what you installed when, as you build it (software wise) so that when you screw up, you can redo everything quickly, and if needed, rearrange the packages as you install them. After you're happy with it, there's one or more web gui's for administering it.

    • @SensSword
      @SensSword Рік тому

      Use ansible. Never install anything manually.

  • @SmeetsDieter
    @SmeetsDieter Рік тому

    Looking forward to you next video!

  • @solverz4078
    @solverz4078 Рік тому +2

    An in depth video on backup for Truenas Scale apps would be interesting and a great idea 💡 ☺

  • @bwood6337
    @bwood6337 6 місяців тому

    I REALLY like this video.
    It's essentially everything I needed and had links for what it didn't include and it didn't take half an hour..

  • @jimforbes
    @jimforbes Рік тому +1

    I enjoy the videos, Christian, and this one confirmed my choice of Proxmox & TrueNAS Scale for my homelab. I use workstation class machines and I am about to do some hardware upgrades and reconfigurations now that I have "a plan". :-) Keep up the good work.

  • @soniclab-cnc
    @soniclab-cnc Рік тому +2

    I tried all the other hypervisors over the years but Proxmox just works the best. It totally changed everything. Absolutely love it. I only need one quiet server in my rack and it just runs everything flawlessly. I use an older Asrock board with dual Xeon e5 2690 v2 with 256 gigs of ecc reg. All the parts were used and inexpensive... also have two TrueNAS servers with more than enough disk space. Lots of headroom to play with for my needs. Virtualize everything !

  • @maginos1310
    @maginos1310 Рік тому +55

    I personally like the idea of using Intel Nucs as Raspberry Pi alternatives and instead of PiOS I use Proxmox to bring some applications (Adguard, unbound, tvheadend, zabbix, etc.) to my internal network.
    On my Backup Server I use OMV, just because I wanted to have a GUI on my backup server.
    My main server runs unraid for over two years now and I'm totally happy with it. I also like the helpful and friendly unraid community. 👍

    • @magnuswright5572
      @magnuswright5572 Рік тому +8

      Intel NUC is probably cheaper than RPi right now too...

    • @maginos1310
      @maginos1310 Рік тому +2

      @@magnuswright5572 Yes. And ebay is flooded with Nucs. At least here in Germany.

    • @Anuitu2u
      @Anuitu2u Рік тому +1

      What the advantages of Intel NUCs than micro Dell Optiplex with the same gen processor?
      Well, not counting the Celeron NUCs, isn't the Micro Optiplex is better? NUCs is overrated. And, I believe the Optiplex is abundance in my country than the NUCs.

    • @maginos1310
      @maginos1310 Рік тому +3

      @@Anuitu2u the footprint of the Nuc is smaller. And I don’t know how it is with the Dell, but with the Nucs you have very good control over the fan curve in the BIOS. That’s very important for me, since I want them to be as quiet as possible. When I buy a Nuc from eBay, I first open the device, clean the fan and renew the thermal paste. Then I go into the bios, and then I adapt the fan speeds to my needs. After this, the Nuc is totally quiet. And I’m not sure, how good you can do that with the Dell.
      I think the differences between these devices are marginal, so if you prefer the Dell over the Nuc, then go for it.

  • @Weirj
    @Weirj Рік тому +11

    "the linux distro that you're using doesn't matter so much" (pulls out popcorn)

  • @IEnjoyCreatingVideos
    @IEnjoyCreatingVideos Рік тому

    Good video Christian! Thanks for sharing it with us!👍😎JP

  • @sligek447
    @sligek447 Рік тому +1

    Excellent advice and explanations. I really enjoyed it. Thanks Christian !

  • @JimmYJammA2099
    @JimmYJammA2099 Рік тому

    Thank you for your videos, please keep sharing your knowledge!

  • @dutchcanuck7550
    @dutchcanuck7550 Рік тому

    This video and this comment thread is solid gold for someone starting out in this tech space. My thanks to everyone.

  • @wernerheisenberg9365
    @wernerheisenberg9365 Рік тому

    I love it to hear a fellow german talking about tech.
    I personally just use proxmox at the moment

  • @DonGerico
    @DonGerico Рік тому +1

    Really useful info as ever. I hope you plan a lot more videos on getting labs setup for noobies getting into it.

  • @brycestewart3181
    @brycestewart3181 Рік тому

    Windows 2016 Server Essentials, Thx for sharing...

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the recommendations!

  • @huplim
    @huplim Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @TheLichKng64
    @TheLichKng64 Рік тому

    Thank you for the info, I plan to mane a small home server and I using many VMs for testing, I will definitely take a look into Promox!

  • @papahuge
    @papahuge Рік тому

    this is insane!! so much good information!! thank you! 🙏🙏👍👍

  • @ukasztokarski2833
    @ukasztokarski2833 6 місяців тому

    That is the best overview of so many versatile tools and solution. Thank you so much for you wonderful, hyper-Informative ;-) content.

  • @theosky7162
    @theosky7162 Рік тому

    Building my first home lab. Thanks for ending the argument, finally! Proxmox and TrueNAS for me!

  • @virtualjoedub
    @virtualjoedub 2 місяці тому

    Great content and presentation! Love your energy! Cheers!

  • @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365
    @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 Рік тому +2

    I've been very happy with XCP-ng on my server hardware. I found it advantageous to have a somewhat normal Linux hypervisor.

  • @kevdok2541
    @kevdok2541 Рік тому +31

    Right now I'm using CasaOS. It's not really an operative system but a front-end that aims to be a very user friendly NAS alike OS.
    To be honest, I can't believe how much I fell in love with this "os" because it's super simple, intuitive and user friendly. In fact, thanks to this program I finally understood how docker images work.
    So if someone new to self-hosting reads this comment, I do encourage you to check it out.

    • @cempack
      @cempack Рік тому +3

      You should try Unraid it's paid but honnestly I was on casaos before and it changed my life

  • @philipprudhomme6967
    @philipprudhomme6967 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing the knowledge you have gained.

  • @optical_ideas
    @optical_ideas Рік тому +7

    I used xenserver for a long time. But since 2 or 3 years i use proxmox and i will stick with it now 😉
    I like the ability to control it via API. I also made a small dashboard in node-red so i can check and boot my VMs from my phone or tablet with just a few buttons (just for playing in homelab)
    Also planning to do a short introduction/tutorial on how i did this, but in german 😜

    • @lukastram4990
      @lukastram4990 Рік тому

      Oh super, das würde mich sehr interessieren

  • @Z-GRADT
    @Z-GRADT Рік тому +2

    I have an ESXi server that's probably over a decade old at this point. I basically wanted one that could do anything, and there weren't many alternatives at the time. I've been using Freenas as a VM under it, but now I'm moving to mainly using TrueNAS Scale on its own server. I like it, but I don't understand what I'm doing most of the time, and find myself just changing different options and checking the logs for errors until I find a combination that works. Containers may be a better way of doing things, but they sure seem a lot more complicated than VM's. It should get easier once I learn what everything actually does.

  • @davyfeeter
    @davyfeeter Рік тому

    I am buying an allinone nas and try to follow your steps! Thank you

  • @stucorbishley
    @stucorbishley Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video! Super thorough and well layer out.
    I’ve been running TrueNAS/FreeNAS since 2009, I’m shopping around and you’ve convinced me to give Proxmox a go. I didn’t know about the API features, seems pretty useful for “just trying something” without messing with the host OS, or diving into someone else’s Helm charts…
    Keep up the great work!

  • @spstiles88
    @spstiles88 Рік тому +1

    I have a ProxMox server at home. I love how easy it is to set up custom containers for things such as my dyndns client, my Home Assistant, piHole, Gitea. And, I can still run virtualized Windows Server, different linux servers or Windows 10 and 11.

  • @scinel82
    @scinel82 Рік тому

    After watching your video about Self Signed Certificates I discovered your channel and enjoying it since. Another great video again, thanks Christian. Probably I could not understand but I can not figure out when using Proxmox & TrueNas Scale together where to put docker volumes, will there be 2 ZFS pools for each, etc. Probably I can understand it with your next video :)

  • @OfficeofTheCISO
    @OfficeofTheCISO Рік тому

    We have been running proxmox in our local home environments. So far so good.

  • @be1m0nt
    @be1m0nt Рік тому

    a long time ago I used esxi , but after it began to be installed only on corporate hardware, I switched to kvm... thx for proxmox, looks amazing il try it

  • @MotownBatman
    @MotownBatman Рік тому

    I Love the Look & Feel of TrueNAS Scale. I can't get VMs working yet for some reason; I'll have to dig into your vids.
    I haven't professionally set up servers in almost 2 decades, I loved using Win2k Server over Server 2k3.
    I tried setting up Linux Servers but I was still a Uber N00b back then, Now Im an Old Uber-N00b

  • @lonxx9473
    @lonxx9473 3 місяці тому

    I'm currently running my homelab with 2 nodes proxmox cluster, such an amazing and powerful Virtualisation system with all things that I need. It runs containers, VM, and even a virtualized firewall. It runs smooth, no issues.
    And for Nas, truenas scale is quite amazing too, great performances with ZFS, applications, external backup for my entire homelab

  • @gearboxworks
    @gearboxworks Рік тому +1

    Great analysis Christian. Totally agree; at some point people should pick a solution and run with it. Constantly looking for something better just makes people dissatisfied with life!
    BTW, I have an ESXi server, a Proxmox server I am about to swap out with a more powerful box, and a TrueNAS box I am about to use to replace my 5 year old Synology NAS. Plus I plan to set up either pfSense or OpnSense on another box. And then I plan to dive into setting up the software for it all.

    • @christianlempa
      @christianlempa  Рік тому

      Thanks for the feedback! Sounds like a good idea

  • @GourmetSaint
    @GourmetSaint Рік тому

    Hi Christian, great video. My home server journey has culminated in me using two older Dell servers, both running Proxmox. One server (R720) is my "play" server but which also includes an Ubuntu server running my family's NextCloud services, a Windows 11 Pro VM as the household print server and another Ubuntu server VM running pihole. The "main" server (T620) runs a TRUENAS Scale VM to which is passed a HBA controller and attached drives using majority of RAM. The other VM, with a Quadro P2000 gpu passed through, runs an minimal Ubuntu desktop (handles nvidia drivers on install) running the family Plex Server.

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love Рік тому

      Sounds like a lot of busy work.

    • @GourmetSaint
      @GourmetSaint Рік тому

      It was initially but, now all done, very little maintenance.

  • @RocknRolfHamburg
    @RocknRolfHamburg Рік тому

    Moin,
    great overview. I will go in the same direction as you. One storage server with TrueNas and one with Proxmox.
    I've been looking at CasaOs lately. In my eyes easier than OMV. For a very simple NAS solution with some container.
    And then there is Unraid. You can do a lot with it...

  • @pomp0m
    @pomp0m Рік тому

    My Current home-lab:
    NAS Synology, that thing already runs a raid array for 18 years, the disks and shell (new unit) changed at times but the array only expanded and kept stable. Synology for me is the 'keep for stability' choice. No bitrot or broken files on the data yet.
    XCP-NG + Xen Orchestra community. I tried ESXI and Proxmox 2 times at home but never got it in the way i wanted, and Xen for me just naturally flows the correct way. The biggest benefit is that it keeps the 'don't set to much' attitude and true 'no master node' of ESXI but it's still open source and gives possibility of adjusting it to your hand like Proxmox. Also the Proxmox in my setup allot of times broke or wasn't stable, (can't shut down a vm, hangs in commands, masternode not available so searching where the ui is).
    On the VM's i run RedHat and Ubuntu, Also some Debians but those are mostly TKL (turn key linux) templates because that helped me allot in the early days.
    Docker is still normal docker and haven't yet tried Kubernetes,
    All is still Automated via Ansible and a little bit (XEN) via Terraform is in the works, no full migration yet.

  • @CMDRSweeper
    @CMDRSweeper Рік тому +1

    For me, many years ago when I was in this boat, the solution was very very simple... Some flavor of Linux, so I put Ubuntu on my home server.
    Ran that for quite some time, but got fed up with the rebuild times when major version upgrades happened, as it never upgraded correctly, forcing me to rebuild the server and its services each and every time. (This was in 2010)
    So afterwards I was experienced enough, and I spent some time rebuilding it under Arch Linux and since then, it has just worked for me.
    Of course it evolved further as the storage transitioned from mdadm RAID 6 to ZFS, but one thing was clear early on... Windows just couldn't cut it.

  • @DrD6452
    @DrD6452 Рік тому

    I use OpenBSD pf for my router/firewall, TrueNAS Core for storage, Windows Server for Group Policy with an iSCSI connection to TrueNAS, CentOS and Windows 10 for desktops with a mix of Cisco and Edgemax PoE switches and VirtualBox for VM's. Soon going to be building a TrueNAS Scale box for Docker apps. It's quite the mix mash of hardware and software cobbled together over the years.

  • @jcugnoni
    @jcugnoni 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video! Personnally I don't really like the idea of running systems that are administered using their own specific web interfaces like Proxmox/Truenas. I usually much prefer having a regular Ubuntu or Debian server as a bawe system which I can manage the way I want and host secondary systems with KVM / Virtmanager or Docker. To make it easier, Cockpit web interface with its zfs, vm, etc plugins makes it nearly as user friendly as proxmox or truenas for moderatelly simple use cases.

  • @Glatze603
    @Glatze603 Рік тому

    Very cool video Christian 👍 I am looking forward to your homelab tour video! I use different proxmox ve on bare metal and a proxmox backup server what is a perfect solution for all virtual machines! For file server I actually use an Ubuntu vm with NFS. I actually play with a Windows Server 2016 as CIFS file server because I love the static ntfs permission structure with AD-Groups! MA, be I built a AD-domain and join all my ubuntu-servers, then I can use different AD users for every server 😜 I am actually not happy with docker using volumes directly on my nfs or cifs shares (I mount the shares on the ubuntu-vm, where I run docker) because of the specific rights of some images. I tried Truenas too, but I prefer proxmox as hypervisor and I like running important services an dedicated hardware.

  • @microsoftsarker
    @microsoftsarker 4 місяці тому

    Great video and engagement!

  • @trucker-ham
    @trucker-ham Рік тому

    Awesome this helped so much!

  • @HDSpaceFox
    @HDSpaceFox 9 місяців тому

    my home server for ssh and apache is running linux-mint but i am also using it as a media center for watching movies or emulators on the projector. and it has a direct connection to a synology NAS with 4 drives. for all my photos from my photography hobby. as you said there is no perfect solution. but this works amazingly well.

  • @cesar0avelar
    @cesar0avelar Рік тому

    Great Video! Virtualization really is the key! For me, the free features that esxi offers are more than enough. The setback is due to the hardware, as it is not friendly with generic storage/network devices. I think Proxmox would be an excellent alternative for me, but I haven't tried it yet.

  • @jeremyhenderson163
    @jeremyhenderson163 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, exactly what I was looking for. I personally don't need Linux-level customizations (so it doesn't make sense for me.), simplicity is more of what I'm looking for. 😁 Again, thank you.

  • @mnando10
    @mnando10 Рік тому +8

    Hi Christian, good video.
    Just a clarification: Hyper-v server it’s free, it is the hyper-v role on windows server standard or Datacenter which is not free because you must pay the standard or Datacenter edition of windows server.
    The hyper-v capabilities are the same between all the editions, including the free one.
    The difference between the free and the STD and Datacenter (aside the GUI, which is missing in the free edition, and the other Windows roles, not available in the free one) is only related to how many windows server VMs (named vOSEs) are licensed on a host: zero for the free edition, 2 for the standard, unlimited for the Datacenter.
    Aside Proxmox, I do not have knowledge on it, if you must choose between the free esxi and the free hyper-v, this one in my opinion is the right one instead of esxi, because hyper-V gives to you all the features, including the virtual machine migration, hardware hot add, clustering support, and so.
    The free esxi is really limited, as you said in the video, it gives you just the basic virtualization features. Nothing more.

  • @mandalorian2010
    @mandalorian2010 Рік тому

    I use QEMU/KVM and it doesn't disappoint. I feel like I have so much more control and i can load the Distro that i want on top of the hypervisor. Plus its a hybrid hypervisor in that it is technically type 2 but runs JUST like a type 1. I have had ZERO issues. Tons of different interfaces (CLI, Libvirt for desktop UI, and Cockpit for web UI) it's simple and yet powerful

  • @mcwillzz23
    @mcwillzz23 Рік тому

    Running a Proxmox cluster with 3 nodes. Main server is an HP ML350 Gen9, network box is a VMWare Edge 680 that's been converted to Proxmox, and third is a micro HP desktop. Most services are running in LXC's, except two. The router/firewall is a full VM and a second vm for Windows that has a GPU for streaming games.

  • @clangsison
    @clangsison Рік тому

    thank you. i've been itching to have my own home server so that i can play and break things :) maybe i will try truenas scale, first.

  • @fabsync
    @fabsync 8 місяців тому

    thanks a lot for your videos man.. they are very helpful.. quick question.. will you use Proxmox in production?

    • @christianlempa
      @christianlempa  8 місяців тому

      Thank you! I'm not managing a prod environment, but if I would, I'd definitely use it :D

  • @oxkaioxo
    @oxkaioxo Рік тому

    Nice video! Thanks.
    I am thinking of making a home server using the following applications: jellyfin, sonarr, radarr, jacket, rclone, home assistant, TrueNAS/OMV, Revers proxy, OpenWRT/OpnSense.
    I don't even know if it is possible to have a reverse proxy and a firewall like openwrt on the same machine as the homeserver.
    I would certainly like to take advantage of Docker to make everything lighter, but all under Proxmox for more flexibility. What would you recommend and above all is it feasible to use the homeserver as a router/firewall for my home network?

  • @RamaOlama
    @RamaOlama Рік тому +2

    - Esxi's biggest issue is, that you need an additional storage server (iscsi etc).
    - Trunas Scale feels still a bit beta to me and is pretty limited.
    - Xcp-ng is basically dead anyway, i don't even know anyone who uses that.
    - Proxmox with zfs/lvm and lxc containers is just brilliant, they even have an mainline kernel, actually 6.1. In my opinion there is simply nothing that can reach Proxmox.
    Sure there are some missing gui features, like some zfs Management (manage datasets/adding cache/log/vdev) or zfs snapshots is a basic feature that's highly missing. But for that you have cli and zfs autosnap etc.
    Proxmox allows mapping over mountpoints datasets or any folder directly to vm/container, which is insanely nice.
    Basically just the gui is a bit limited, but you have all the possibilities over cli and there is nothing you can't realize.
    Im a really big fan of Proxmox and love what the guys are doing there, especially Lamprecht is doing the most work, glad god he is such a motivated guy. Hopefully he never leaves Proxmox.
    Maybe im sounding like a small fanboy, but i just love Proxmox, it ticks every wish you have.
    I have a cluster of 4 Servers btw, 2 of them are at home, main and a small backup, 1 is at my mum and the last one is a dedicated server from hetzner. All connected over opnsense/wireguard.
    Maybe one thing i would love is, better docker support, since docker and zfs, mhhh...
    I have docker running in an lxc container, which works excellent, but it took initially a bit to find out the correct cgroup2 rights and module options for zfs etc.
    This could be made easier, with an additional lxc option (like fuse etc).
    But yeah, the gui is a bit limiting, however you have the cli!
    Probably a good way to learn for some either.
    Cheers

  • @SimonLally1975
    @SimonLally1975 Рік тому +5

    I agree with most of what you said and like you said the use case is always the key.
    Personally I use
    Proxmox on a china 4x 2.5Gb port for home assistant, 3CX, pihole and adguard (10 watt CPU running at 4%) on process on each cpu core.
    unRaid for plex server (Nvidia p2000 for enc/transcoding) for just the ability to add another drive whenever the size (same or lower than parity) and ONLY spin up the drive needed to watch content (don't need the whole array to spin up) which it turn saves power when getting more and more drives because the library is expanding.
    TrueNAS scale for the easy on use for docker and the use of zfs.
    Just waiting for the another china 4x 2.5Gb port for opnsense box.

  • @M3PH11
    @M3PH11 Рік тому

    I'm going to be building a server this year with 128GB of ram and an intel xeon E5 2695 v3. My plan is to do FreeNAS scale (maybe vsphere if i'm feeling rich) as the host and then several VM's, both windows server and linux, to run all sortts of things from AD, DNS and DHCP, to maybe a couple of game server and a security camera system for my flat. This video proved interesting.

  • @jaguarke069
    @jaguarke069 Рік тому +1

    Hello Christian, thanks! What ‘visio’ software are you using at 8:17? It looks neat!

  • @fernando.conceicao
    @fernando.conceicao Рік тому

    Hi Cris...good tips. Can I ask what software you use to make the explanations of the virtual machine that looks like a blackboard?

  • @TK_Raz
    @TK_Raz Рік тому

    For generic server stuff - I personally use a customized Ubuntu Server image with SNAP completely stripped out - As well as a few other customizations made to it.
    For VMs - Proxmox, I have a cluster of a few physical Proxmox machines.

  • @felixinit
    @felixinit 8 місяців тому

    Great vídeo as an introduction for setting home servers. Hypervisors Proxmox and NAS (Network Attached Storage)

  • @ericandrews4861
    @ericandrews4861 7 місяців тому

    Love the video!!! Thank you for the information. One solution I use in my set up is UNRAID as well as others you spoke about.

  • @veneratedmortal4369
    @veneratedmortal4369 Рік тому +1

    I like unraid for a home server. It has the biggest community and support plus is the most flexible with putting drives in your array. Great on a budget when most people are using old drives of different sizes.

  • @marioauditore571
    @marioauditore571 Рік тому

    Moin, netter Überblick. Bringst eine Gute Energie rüber! Werde hier definitiv nochmal vorbeischauen ;) Gut, dass du das mit "Linux als OS" noch im Nachgang erklärt hast. Das hat dir glaube ich einige Kommentare erspart :D ;) weiter so! offtopic: auch respekt an dein flüssiges englisch. aber doch immer wieder erschreckend wie man es ab sekunde 1 raushört, wenn jemand aus germany kommt.

    • @christianlempa
      @christianlempa  Рік тому +1

      Vielen Dank für das Lob :) am Anfang haben mich die Linux fanboys Kommentare gestört, aber mittlerweile ist mir das egal XD Hauptsache euch gefällt der Content :)

    • @marioauditore571
      @marioauditore571 Рік тому

      @@christianlempa Ja, du sagst es. Kommentar Sections sind leider oft toxisch und können teilweise demotivieren. Deshalb hab ich extra mal was positives dagelassen für die Motivation ;) bleib dran und weiter so :)

    • @christianlempa
      @christianlempa  Рік тому

      @@marioauditore571 Vielen Dank, sowas motiviert mich immer ;) LG!

    • @bps3374
      @bps3374 Рік тому

      Katastrophe.. mein Englisch is for Run away 😲 bin persönlich ein großer Fan von VMware seit 10 Jahren aber nicht von den ihren Preisen ..

  • @c0p0n
    @c0p0n 9 місяців тому +2

    As a devops engineer I deploy a ton of vms and containers and if I'm given the choice, 90% of the time they're running the current Ubuntu LTS. No licensing issues or drama, very well put together and easy to hack into and excellent cloud provider support.

  • @masterdroid4293
    @masterdroid4293 Рік тому

    Hallo Christian, thx for the great videos you make!
    I have installed TrueNas and Traefi.
    I would like to combine that with Sophos XG as in your video about one year ago.
    Can you make a new video? Grtz

  • @Felix-ve9hs
    @Felix-ve9hs Рік тому +5

    Debian Linux and Ubuntu Server would also be my first recommendation for a beginner, although I use FreeBSD for all my stuff (which I think is even easier to learn).
    Windows Server is also a good idea for starting a homelab, especially if you want to get a job as a sysadmin since almost all companies today use it.

    • @vilian9185
      @vilian9185 Рік тому +1

      how almost all companies use windows server wtf, 96% of the servers use linux, even microsoft itself haha

    • @kjsweeney81
      @kjsweeney81 Рік тому

      I use FreeBSD on the desktop and NAS at home myself. A lot of the sites I know of and the company I work for use Windows as their primary server OS, though Linux is around.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 Рік тому +1

      Microsoft put themselves out of this market the day they abandoned Windows Home Server.

  • @canadianwildlifeservice8883
    @canadianwildlifeservice8883 8 місяців тому

    Sorry for the long comment. Since I am planning on expanding my home lab to include a NAS for my local storage and backups, and Being a Sophos home user, I thought that running an SMB file server on a Linux distro (instead of freeNAS/Synology) would offer greater security from malware, since I have the option to use the free Server Protection feature that Sophos offers that installs Sophos Antivirus on current Linux distros and monitors file activity for malicious behavior and viruses.

  • @Ultimaus
    @Ultimaus 8 місяців тому

    I think it really comes down to the definition of full crazy. If your job is in IT or potentially in IT. I think it makes great sense to deploy several servers depending on if your field is more cyber security based/network based or more systems administrator/programming based or you're a dev ops guy. I personally have a bunch of proxmox VMs but i know you wont see proxmox in the wild so I would spin up esxi just to keep the vmware navigation skills sharp. At the end of the day our interests will be attracted to a certain aspect of IT and ultimately what we alliw for ourselves is subject to budget and availability.
    But really this is just a really round about way to say the best way to do something is get all the things xD

    • @canadianwildlifeservice8883
      @canadianwildlifeservice8883 8 місяців тому

      I agree with the comment about Proxmox being less enterprise friendly than ESXi. I found Proxmox to be intimidating, but installing a desktop environment such as Mate right on the host machine itself made setting up VMs bit easier without the need to log in from another PC to do basic tasks and is more secure if you just want to allow logins from the "localhost" using the desktop environment.

  • @cinemaipswich4636
    @cinemaipswich4636 6 місяців тому

    I watched 40 hours of videos before I chose a Server OS. While I watched, I learned a lot about what servers were. My needs were modest as as a solo user. Now, in November 2023, I have picked TrueNAS Scale. I could set it up with about 12 stages of implementation, to arrive at something that does the basic things I want. It took me just one day, as a novice.

  • @lucashan322
    @lucashan322 Рік тому

    Hi, there, what Architecture diagram plugin did you use in 8:18? It seems an obsidian plugin. so cool.