TDC has received quite a few new supporters on Patreon in the past two weeks. It's really awesome to see the support from the community, both monetary and otherwise. Thank you to everyone who's decided to help out. It'd be hard for me to overstate my appreciation. I think TDC has the potential to be a very helpful resource in the years to come. I look forward to seeing the impact it can have as well as the impact of the TDC community.
I'm poor but i'm in for a bit every month - even past my own education and a feeling of kinship with Seth; the need for ZERO BULLSHITE harm reduction type information like this vs. the unmitigated feces flood of propaganda and lies lies lies offered by the state and its various surrogates means evvverybody who has ever done annny drug needs to give brother Seth a few bucks... at least one time if not every month... just saying. ALSO: needs t-shirts... Oh Brother Seth... TDC neeeeeds t-shirts
Seth, I'm prepared to begin a monthly donation to your site. One thing that I'm still interested in is the possibility of you speaking before my Unitarian Universalist congregation here in Frederick, Maryland. Please contact me to discuss this. Laura.
i became a patreon within the last two weeks too. really appreciate all the work you do and when i saw how little you make from the massive amount of work you do i had to be become a patreon. //student with no job
I’ve only ever taken mushrooms but I got a gel tab from someone and after some lazy research I decided to try it. It tasted really spicy and weird, so I spit it out and ended up here. Apparently “if it’s bitter it’s a spitter.” Glad I spit it out. I wonder how much of it gets in you just from biting and tasting it.
I was hospitalized from an 25i intake. Took two big tabs and warped through space and time destroyed my room, got tazed twice and sedated and was in a coma for a day. Next day I was perfectly fine.
Got that same shit. Destroyed my room smashed my hand full of mirror. Got in a fight with police took them 4 man and 2 doctor's to put me in to a ambulance. Woke up next day left hospital in 15 minuts. They seem to call it a excited delirium syndrome. Never taking that crap again just sticking with acid and shrooms
Yeah same happend to me, took 2 tabs taught it was lsd. it was fine the fiest hour but i kicked in way faster than lsd. Then i started falling out of reality and had these really bad tought loops and started getting really agressive. And went out in the neighbourhood screaming and freaking out in a horrible delirium/psychosis. They called the police and was hospitilised. All i remeber is waking up in the hospital really confused. Stay away from this shit. it will give you a horrible trip.
@@lexamyr7948 Nah, I mean if you taste that it's bitter, there is almost no way you are not getting something in your system. I could be wrong, if the substance isn't taken up well sublingually or through other mouth tissue then you'd be saved by spitting.
Had a half a tab and lucky I did because it had the strength of around 200ug LSD (approx 2 typical tabs). It was more stimulating, more physical load, a bit more dirty, zappy, and less magical then LSD. Had a good time but I would stay away from it. Easier to accidentally OD on it, its less clean, and the consequences are worse.
@@lokadoka1861 Damm I haven't seen LSD since college, I always was concerned about that kind of thing because of exactly these sorts of chemicals, but it seems there's always someone going through organic chemistry at every big university who has heard of Garbrecht's synthesis LOL
Yeah I did, since that shit is a part of the DOx family, I think it's not as bad until you stick to reasonable doses. But this 25i shit seems to play russian roulette with you.
I used to do this stuff quite a lot - but it's not actually that hard to tell the difference between this and LSD. I can understand someone with less experience not really knowing the difference. I have had quite a bit more synesthesia than with LSD on both 25i and 25c - probably not the psychedelic for beginners, but I found it to be wonderful. A common dose is going to be enough for a first try, you won't be disappointed, most likely. To be honest, I really enjoyed this drug - 25i and 25c - they're both quite nice, if you like phenethylamines. Just use care if you try them. Great channel, by the way. I'm glad to find something like this on youtube.
I have no idea which one I tried. All i know is it tested as mescaline on a marquis, but it was on a tab so there’s no way it was actually mescaline.I had a blast though, It was one of the most fun trips I had ever had. Our best guess was it had to be an Nbome of some sort. At the time the bunk police kits didn’t have the book of reactions, just the one color wheel under the lid.
The very existence of the NBOMe series pisses me off, it's super hard to get real acid now. At least there where I live. Most people have no idea that there are shitty and dangerous replacements for acid, including the dealers. They seriously think they're selling lsd when they're actually selling NBOMes or DOxs.
I am from Czech Republic and there is this NBOMe crap passed as acid all around here, literally NO ONE I've asked about it had any idea what an NBOMe is. So part of my vigilante agenda became spreading actual drug education (because the shitty form of it being taught in schools is absolutely useless). Because the greatest enemy to a shady dealer is an educated buyer. And if we educate enough buyers, the dealers will have to switch back to real acid as no one will want their crappy dangerous bullshit.
Bizaron Education is really important. A friend of mine (with him I wanted to take acid) has also never heard of NBOMEs and didn't believe me in the beginning, that our last trip was no acid at all. Fortunately I could convince him by telling the differences. But the Problem is that People who never took real acid don't know what this differences are :-/ now I'm looking for real acid die weeks and I'm not able to get some.
Same here, I was able to get 1 blotter of actual acid and it feels like treasure to me, so far i know it comes from the dark web. Whenever I tried to get some from street delaers or from "people who know people," I was given what I believe is DOM and there is someone here in my town who sells 25c-NBOMe as acid. Selling risky chemicals with shitty safety profiles as a well known and physically safe substance is one of the greatest dick moves one can do. I guess dark web is the solution.
I did this on Halloween with 2 of my friends. We each took 1 tab. Almost immediately I started feeling the effects and it felt like I was peaking off 2 tabs. It was enjoyable for like an hour, but then it really started getting bad. My friend threw up multiple times, I was shaking uncontrollably. My heart rate was insane, my teeth were grinding and they ached, the body high made me feel like I was on meth and tweaking out. The visuals were way too intense and overwhelming. I could barely walk and I felt like I was super drunk. Everytime I laid down I had awful nausea. 4 hours in I started having psychosis and suicidal thoughts because I wanted the trip to end. I couldn’t sleep for 20 hours after the trip. Nbome makes you feel disgusting and coked out. The visuals feel metal and fake and your mind feels like it’s drunk.
saaame i took a drop and within minutes i felt trippy first hr i was partying like on mdma and had fun visuals,then after 1 hr it started to feel bad rushing thougt and a jaw that felt so bad my neck was also stiff af i couldnt relax at all ,i had the same expirience as you its crazy not even coke felt that bad or speed because these 2 lack the mental part and the visual part thats why nbomes are sooo bad cuz they do give u a trip but90% of the trip is just a mix of meth like psychosis mixed with a bad lsd trip and muscle spasm and cramps
I have tripped on most common psychedelics, am a very experienced psychonaut, and never really had any problem. I did take 25-i at least 6 times, but my most recent trip I decided to go reeeal low, wanted to experiment if micro dosing it could have beneficial effects, so I took a quarter tab and then an other quarter 4 hours later.. now 2 hours after my second quarter a friend of mine smoked a joint.. I took two tokes.. it skyrocketed my trip hardcore.. went into sérotonine syndrome, now being experienced I was able to stay calm, but my hearth could not, I could feel it beating in my arthery in my belly as hard as it did in my chest, I had visual flashes of white trees and halls of eyes, which were sadly accompanied by a feeling of none profoundness attached to them.. I was puking what looked like slimy play-dho.. this all lasted about 10 hours.. keep in mind before my two tokes of joint I did not have any noticeable visuals.. I got severe anxiety for 2 months, wich i pretty much fixed with meditation, but 6 months later I am still stuck with severe HPPD and visual snow.. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that 25-i is very unpredictable, and if it does hit it's not just gonna be a "bad trip", the actual trip was kind of ok actually, but it can hit your body like a ton of bricks and leave you with fucked up shit, forgetting the fact that it can be fatal.. so yeah stay away..
@@dmt4992 BUT smoking marihuana brings psychoactive effects because thc is a psychedelic, i had similar experiences lsd and some joints, sometimes it just boost's your trip really hard.. sleep and chilled mindsetting helped me to not freak out ..
I’ve done this drug and I can tell you it was much crazier than LSD, Psilocybin or dex. They are all different, some better than others. This one takes the cake for me. Maybe I took more than I should but to quote a movie you may know it “made LSD seem like a ginger beer, man”
For anyone struggling with HPPD, there is a way to help yourself, but it's not nearly as simple as medicating or wishing the symptoms away. This way is through the use of mindfulness meditation and yogic practices. I've suffered from HPPD for a little over 2 years now originating from two separate 25-I-Nbome and 25-X uses/experiences. My symptoms visually, have slightly worsened since I had found out what happened to me, exacerbated by slight MDMA and cannabis abuse. The Depersonalization and Disassociation(the worse part) I've only just learnt to deal with this past year and function around. Not saying that for 2 years I couldn't function, for only those I chose to tell about my condition knew what I was going through. But to say, I can now realise how much for a fucking bubble I was leaving in. A bubble coated in purplely rainbow static and breathing patterns, filled with existential anxiety and the consistent question of my very existence. *such fun* This bubble(a metaphor) only just properly popped towards the beginning of 2018 for the first time. How? Through the use of mindfulness meditation and yoga. I started practicing in 2017 and for a year now I've done 30minutes of yoga and 45minuets of mindfulness meditation each morning. This has essentially removed all feelings of Depersonalization, Derealisation and Disassociation, while feeling happier, wiser and healthier than I ever had before. While my unique HPPD vision remains, the purplely rainbow static and breathing patterns in my visual field are still with me, but don't faze me in the slightest anymore and mainly go unnoticed unless I choose to directed my awareness towards it. I feel like I've now, for the first time since the Nbome trips have grounded myself by into my own head and body, and no longer live outside my myself like I use to feel. I can even smoke weed again without feeling like I'm balls deep in a bad acid trip. I now get next to no anxiety from it like I use to. With all this said. The best way to improve your HPPD symptoms would to abstain from any psychoactive substance use and to mix that with the meditation and yoga. But for a lot of us, through all the torment of this condition can not put down those drugs we do or used to love so much. So I would highly recommend these meditative practices, especially if you are one who is struggle with putting down the substances. I can now smoke weed, drink and even trip on psychedelics(only traditional, fuck Nbome and other RC's off) again without any usually effect or worsing of my condition visually or mentally, although I would ultimately recommend sobriety for I could be playing fire. *I am sorry for this long read. I hope it can help anyone struggling with this condition to better there life. Regardless it will always get better so try not to stress yourself out too much. Thank you :)
And here's my tipp.. stay in complete abstinence for a longer period of time, that means not even ciggs or beer and ive heard from many with visual hppd symptoms, that it healed out.. absolute abstinence is one keyfragment .. i'm with u anyways 👍
I had a bad 25i trip in 2015 and I still have bad depersonalisation, de-realisation and HPPD. I feel like I am outside my body and my visual field is all warped and not smooth. Is that what you experienced? It is bizarre. I had a year of psychotic episodes last year which probably made it worse and I had a stroke during the 25i trip. I can't believe the strength and toxicity of this drug.
I have been doing the same with meditation and yoga and have recently added ashwaganda root vitamins to my routine and my mental health seems to be improving. I still see visuals in certain moments, which are mostly the melting effectvisuals, but the anxiety and brain fog is better.
Was a very experienced tripper before accidentally taking 25i-nbome. Only took two tabs thinking it lsd and only wanting a fun mellow time with a few friends. The hits we later learned were well over 1000 ug each as we got a call from the dealer the next day freaking out seeing of we were ok after he was informed. My friends and I were always very cautious. Ill admit, once i tasted the metallic flavor I knew I shouldve spit it out, but something told me to ride it out. Long story short? Was in and out of body multiple times. Could barely control body. Somehow we all maintained convo very well which helped. But then this happened. Felt myself going insane, losing grip on what little control I had. Saw myself fly through a tunnel. All my friends remembered the next part. We awoke in a pure white space in very very different physical forms. We came out of it and went back to convo. Next I, and I alone, went further. It started with my laptop. A white hole opened up on the screen with binary code and a rainbow of colors on the periphery of the hole. Before I knew what happened next my entire mind's eye was an image of a gold and brown Eye of Ra comprised of cogs, which in turn were comprised of flashing binary code. I felt the center of my head and forehead heat up and build pressure. It became too much, and everything went black. I came to again. Only different this time. I have never been the same. Been through several phases of being obsessed with knowledge, wisdom, and gaining as close to an omniscient-like mindset as possible in a peaceful way. Paranormal experiences peaked for about two years after that, which plenty of people were with me that barely tripped or anything also saw. Oh yea, Im the only sane person left of that group of nbome friends. One guy lost all sense of social cues and proper behaviors. The girl never wanted anything to do with drugs again and refuses to speak of the experience. The last guy will get extreme anxiety to the point of lashing out if you even mention tripping around him. He almost cried last time i tried to mention the nbome trip. I guess you could say our third eyes were forced open like, they already were kinda opening, but in one shot got fully opened. Was not pleasant. Fucking third eye rape. Take from this what you will.
The first time I did 25i is when I was 16 and I was told it was lsd at the time and at that time I would do it frequently with tabs that had 2-3 drops and eat one sometimes two at a time.. now I’m 21 years old. I’ve had both good and bad trips, many of deja vu sensations and realizations. But one really intense trip took me overboard I felt like I was bi polar or had boarder line personality disorder for months! I really believed in my own intuition and something told me since I didn’t leave my trip happy I would have to go back in and sort things out. so on Christmas Eve 2015 I decided to take a heroic dose of 5 tabs of 25i.. and I stumbled upon a lecture by an author named Terrence McKenna called the Taxonomy of Illusion on UA-cam while I played GTA & that made me understand myself and the world around me a little simpler. I was overwhelmed with feelings of content and happiness. I felt like his speech helped me over come my fear of losing myself and my mind and had me so motivated into learning to the point where I would tell the fractal patterns bouncing off the walls how to react within itself and make them twirl and spin whichever way Id desire.. I haven’t done 25i since 2016 I’ve moved onto real tasteless lsd and mushrooms which I really love and have been researching so much about. so far I’ve eaten 7 grams and actually seen the construct of time before my eyes rotating in these transparent bubble like gears and I’ve also heard radio frequencies.. I plan on graduating to DMT very soon to meet the machine elf’s and to really try to grasp what all this really is. Kinda feels like I’ve lived this life before
Be careful, you are starting to lose it. Be critical towards what you start believing while tripping. Not everything is real. This substances are called hallucinogens for a reason...
There was a ton of this stuff in my hometown around the early 2010’s (along with many cathinones, all coming from the Silk Road) We knew what it was, but assumed it could be taken in similar fashion to LSD and were unaware of the toxicity associated with higher doses of NBOMes. Many of my friends from our group (we were all ravers and most of us poly drug abusers/addicts) ended up in the hospital with psychosis or physical symptoms of overdose and some never recovered. THESE ARE NOT A SAFE ALTERNATIVE
I did it 4 times total. The second time, around 15 of us did it at a cabin out in the woods. It was the most profound psychedelic experiences of my life. I actually experienced REAL esp with some of the people I took it with. I could see people’s souls (or lack thereof). The 4th time I did it, it was the scariest experience of my life. It’s the only time I felt like I may have been demon possessed. I also had this evil feeling super human strength and picked up my 220 pound brother like a baby and throw him like a sack of potatoes. I managed to crack a couple ribs from doing it. I was tormented by some unknown force for about 5 hours... it just kept whispering in my ear “you ain’t shit, kill yourself”. I know it was probably just a hallucination, but it felt very real. It was enough to make me NEVER touch it again. It took months to recover from that experience. That was 7 years ago. It’s a big nope for me. 👎
I felt demonic vibes too. But also my cousin dropped like 30 hits for my 2nd time by accident. Every other day my ear rings as if a grenade blew up next to me
Sounds like a bad thought loop. Been there but the truth is you've gotta keep the mind moving. These same thoughts pop up on a day to day basis but you keep going for the most part either waving them off or being mindful of something else. Know thyself and never lose your truths ✌
Set and setting is important! Never had anything like that on 25i. Bad trips happen on all substances. I actually find 25i easier to steer away from things like thought loops compared to an LSD loop of the same... Potency feeling wise.
@@jed_w agreed but also ive said more manufactured and industrial. With the right sitters etc id take a very high dose of Acid but not 25i. No sir. 2 tabs was my limit and the body load was horrific.
It’s the iodine. it’s not really a substance that we’re supposed to be putting in our bodies at such high levels (yes we do actually need it in very tiny amounts for certain hormones, but we usually get more than enough of it from our usual diets)
I took 2 tabs my second time tripping, I thought it was lsd. There were about 10 of us in a large house tripping, it was fun until all but 3 of us were stuck in thought loops. I felt like I had multiple braingasms if that’s a thing.. visually it was beautiful, I had fun, but the kid who had sold it to us took like 10 tabs after taking Molly in the days before and went to the hospital and we thought he died. I didn’t know the guy and I was honestly feeling so good from the drug I didn’t really care, me and my friend even acknowledged how this scary situation didn’t effect us and were questioning our sense of moral for not really giving a fuck about this kid. In the end it was fun but gave a very false sense of enlightenment. It was one of the most stimulating experiences I’ve ever had and the afterglow the day after was so beautiful but instead of bringing me into introspection it only blinded me from the realness of reality for a short time
I took this drug or a similar analogue on accident thinking it was LSD back in high school. It was one of the most incredible, sentimental, introspective, and even nostalgic experiences. That being said I’d never try it again knowing what it was and it’s pharmacology, and I’ve tested everything since. Also worth mentioning that many people have taken very large doses of 25i and faced no apparent side effects, whereas other people have died by taking much less, meaning it’s possible that certain people have a sensitivity towards overdosing on this drug, another reason to stay away.
I remember when I was in highschool and 25i was still technically legal, there was a massive wave of it being sold as "acid." Mainly targeting people who didn't know any better. Once 25i was finally made illegal, it pretty much disappeared on the street and real LSD became much more commonplace. I only took it once. It was interesting and very visually intense, but also nauseating, confusing, and far from a clean experience. A couple kids I went to school with completely fried their brains with NBOMes.
i had pretty much the same experience. i had read trip reports on erowid about lsd so i had an idea of what to expect regarding onset, timing, characteristics of the trip, etc… when i dropped my first tab i noticed that it tasted bitter, but i had a life changing trip with my best friend regardless. later on i found out that what we thought was lsd was 25i instead. i think i took it 2 more times before finding out what it actually was, i remember my ~3rd trip being “bad” but it taught me a lot about composure. only took one tab each time btw. tbh it didn’t really feel all that different to me. probably some amount of placebo effect/cognitive bias explains that… memory isn’t perfect, & that first trip was 10 years ago. never did it again after that. i mean, i never did it willingly lol. since then i’ve had lots of experience with lsd though, i’m quite fond of Lucy actually :)
@@sweetamanita8566 Bad trips for me usually end up being the most beneficial ones in the long run, even though they can be excruciatingly traumatizing while they're happening. But just in case, this is why I always keep a lot of benzodiazepines on hand when I'm partaking of hallucinogens or dissociatives.
@@sweetamanita8566 Breathing techniques are the beginning and go a loooong way in a bad trip scenario. Bad trips are almost entirely caused by anxiety or fear which results in the panicked heart rate which only blasts you deeper down the hole. Slowing down your breathing to calm your heart rate is the start to thinking logically while tripping shit at least hopefully giving yourself the time to calm down and remember you’re just on a drug and are safe. It’s done wonders for me and everytime I’ve felt uncomfortable or anxious during a trip it’s completely made the experience flip on it’s head.
25i was the first psychedelic I ever took. It was amazing. I loved every bit of it. I felt happy as fuck and things were just fun to look at. I took 2 hits, but I don't know the dosage. 1 hit wouldn't work on me. I could easily tell that my head was fucked up and I couldn't think straight, but I just went with it and had a blast. I even kept getting myself into thought loops were I'd convince myself that it never worked and I was simply just high af off weed. Then I'd convince myself that no weed has made me feel like that before. I went through that process about 5 times to the point where in a slight moment I was thinking straight I had to tell my friend to not let me convince myself I wasn't on 25i. In terms of the visuals, they were alright. I wasn't straight tripping, but things looked bright and cool. Some things would start moving a bunch if I stared at them, like the clouds. The only part I'd say I was tripping was when I was convinced that a bag of completely good weed was a bag of dirt. I lost my shit laughing at my friend who I thought was smoking dirt lol. Sadly, when I took it I was the only one on it. I handled it pretty well though and had no real troubles.
about a year ago, thinking it was lsd, i took 2000mg (2 tabs)... it brought on SEVERE hppd, psychosis, and schizophrenic delusions that eventually led to my ex cutting me off completely. they were the only source of happiness in my life and this caused multiple suicide attempts, i’m lucky to still be here. do NOT fuck with this stuff and ALWAYS test your tabs
@@josephshaw4157 if that was any of the 2Cx nombe series your whole mouth would immediately become numb as you put the tabs in your mouth as well as have an INCREDIBLY dirty chemical taste and taking 8 tabs would kill most normal people so what did it taste like?
I've known people develop psychosis from this psychedelic, and friends who've taken it have never reported any "enlightening" psychedelic effects. I've experienced psychosis off a natural psychedelic, but it seems to be worryingly common with some synthetics like this.
I took it 4 days a week for almost a full year until I went into full delression at EDC and went into some zombie state where I couldn't respond to anyone. Got a few brain scans sense then because of seizures and I believe it's the cause of the Pineal Cyst I have now that causes seizures, migraines, and hallucinations that ARE NOT fun. Trying to raise a kid now and dealing with what RCs did to me has been a real struggle. I fear for kids these days and know I'll be teaching my son about this stuff early so he at least knows what can happen instead of being careless like I was. I once saw a girl drop dead while dancing at a festival... This was back in 2012. I can only imagine what's out now and the long term effects.
I took 10mg first time, ordered 250mg from a chemist (legitimate site) before it was illegal.I redosed 4 times that night through Buccal first time and insulfation. Very intense trip.. i wont get into it but i never left my room once the trip started going. Let alone be able to stand.I had hppd for a good 1-2years happy to say its completely gone today.
So I’m sitting here learning about this drug up 8 years later. Back in 2011/2012, there wasn’t much online about it. I remember him telling me exactly what he took and I googled it right away. The only thing that came up in search at the time was a thread of people talking about wanting to try it. As far as one of those cases in Michigan where a teenager experienced seizures and had to be hospitalized, I can say for %100 certainty my friend is one of them. He ordered it online, had massive seizures, and I ended up having to call an ambulance. Doctors say he almost died from an elevated white blood cell count
I remember not too long ago I got sold 25i as LSD, I did 2 hits thinking it was acid, didn't taste the bitterness until about 10 minutes in of having them on my gums. I thought I could ride it out, but holy SHIT was I wrong. I played some TF2 waiting for the come up, all was well, I started noticing the effects, the most pronouced one was unlike acid, I felt very dissociated, I had no idea what I was doing in the game (with LSD I at least had some mental clarity) so I got off and watched some Vinesauce. This is when I started getting the flashing white and black colors, followed by intense organ pain. This was around midnight, I was all alone. I was scared that I was going blind, and that I was having seizures, followed by intense feelings of sorrow and guilt, I thought I was going to die, I was on the verge of waking my parents up to send me to the hospital, and imagined my parents crying after finding my dead body in my room. I was pacing my room constantly, turning the lights on and off, rocking back and fourth, this happened for about 2 hours or so before I got the idea to take a shower ~3am or so. That shower completely turned my trip around. The intense effects kinda started to wear off, the hot water helped my muscle cramps, and my mind went from paranoid delusions to manic laughter and pleasure, everything seemed funny to me, and the rest of the trip seemed to be very nice. If I could describe 25i, it'd be like if MDMA and LSD fucked and had a Deliriant baby. In some ways I like 25i better than LSD, but its definitely a lot darker of a substance, definitely not something I'd take very often.
It wasn't the shower, i took nbomes about 4 times and always around 2-3 hours the effects wear down and i can think straight again and have intense euphoria! i took a tab last sunday and again same thing, i can't literally think or speak for about 2-3 hours and soon after, i return to earth i still trip and see shit but it's almost like i'm on some weird mix of speed/mdma/cocaine i just feel like i'm the shit and i'm so euphoric and happy... it's a really nice trip at that 2-3 hr range but the problem with this substance is that on the come up it sucks, i keep trembling and feeling nauseous until i can't either speak or think properly, barely could use my phone to text my friend to meet me (i was alone sat down at the bus stop waiting for him to come) luckly they found me because i wasn't able to function as i said always for the first 2 to 3 hours... and even after this i find it to be a shitty substance, despite feeling great like you'll get amazing feelings i often feel like i'm pissing and orgasming nonstop but i often feel some nasty heart acceleration like it's gonna jump out of my chest and some insane shaking....just unnatural as though i'm gonna pass out or have a heart attack and also you can get some pretty hardcore hallucinations i literally saw shit that people in my group didin't see and i find myself pretty suggestible to paranoia while under the effect... i can see someone freak out pretty easly on this specially at the first hours range since you can't even understand the things that are happening around you so you just go building up paranoia.
Ok so your one of the few people I've seen that had the same thing as me. I didnt experience the rest of that awful shit but I did experience the manic laughter as you call it. It was like a constant rolling around laughter. I have a question did you feel a slight numbness on the right or left side of yourself?
@@tylertodeschi7636 the numbness is you having almost an heart attack only ppl who feel that are extremely heavyweight ppl or ppl who binged on cocaine or methampetamine
I took this years ago and now i feel permenant affects. I cant really take a full breath and feel relieved like i used too. Also things feel and look different and i think in different ways now. Can anyone relate or am i just over exaggerating?
I did, but luckily it was small. It’s been about two months, every day is a little bit better. Some days feel worse than others, but I don’t think it’s HPPD, I think it’s latent anxiety that was brought out by it. Stay safe friends
Totally reply i got fucked 2012-2015 on this while in highschool and idk everything is different and wrong now i hate it and know more research needs to be done on the permnant effects of the user
lucky anson Just stay strong, I understand all these replies just keep in mind we are much stronger than bs chemical that isn't real. Stay positive. Keep striving.
I took this as my first psychedelic, it was a very introspective and creative experience. I was gone for about six days, three of which I spent locked in a room to make sure my little sister didn’t freak out. I did a couple of drawings as well as listen to music the entire time. I wasn’t really in the right headspace to take it though because at the time my mother was going through cancer and my grandmother Passed away about a month prior. I do have to say it was scary after day two
That one time I wanted to play video games real bad but the cords were all tangled and it looked like a pit of snakes moving all around. Took me like 45 mins to untangle, with multiple breaks cause looking at it too long made me confused as shit. Threw on some headphones, jammed out, back to the mess, confusion, repeat. I always had fun times with it , Stick to LSD though kids.
-DopamineDeficient97 imo shrooms are the safest because with anything natural it’s very hard to get fake stuff unless your plug is a psychopath intending harm because lacing them would put you at a cash defecit
Yea I did this around 3 times in my teenage years a couple years ago. Worst experience I’ve ever had. (All of them). The dealer was sketchy himself telling me it was straight acid. I wasn’t educated much on acid. I’ve had real acid my first time and it was powerful and felt clean. Still had a horrible ego death. My first time taking this fake acid, it was bitter. I thought it was normal. I immediately started tripping. It was all smiles at first until I started screaming and running around the apartment complex yelling at random neighbors for milk. (Yes milk) I was in complete terror. I had no idea what was happening. My friend was telling me to calm down and I had no idea I was acting out that much. My second trip was from the same dealer. I was a teenager and stupid and didn’t learn. I remember taking a shower before going to a football game and I took it. The shaving razor in the corner of the bathtub started to move and on my thought process it was trying to cut me and it was literally a satanic razor trying to kill me. I was still tripping getting ready and as left with my friend outside everything changed for the worst. I had this panic feeling in my body and immediately noticed the cars driving backwards. I was completely confused to why they were going backwards. We make it to the playground near the football game and I sit on the bench to take it all in. All the kids on the playground turned into demonic little kids and sounds of hell were coming from the playground. I couldn’t handle it anymore and ran out in traffic at the football game where all the cars were going to park. It was the most satanic, delirious, hell inducing trip I’ve ever had. I could’ve died from not only running out in traffic, or yelling at random people in a bad neighborhood. But the drug felt like death itself. Never again
parky man can’t remember unfortunately. But I do recall a red bitter liquid that would start to drip if I got it wet with saliva and it tasted so bad I almost vomited. I would place it on my tongue and it would come off on my fingers in red. I would immediately get affects from it.
I took a tab of this once. At the peak the night sky turned white, the stars turned black and my consciousness projected outside of my body to the inverse sky and tree line ahead of me. Then the trees in the tree line started warping inward towards each other and turned into a beautiful woman's face. I snapped back into my body when I thought my body would collapse because I was no longer occupying it.
Tried this shit before. Felt like a very dirty, toxic amphetamine with a very boring and uninspiring trip effect. Left my body feeling poisoned. Stick to the tried and tested Magic Mushrooms and LSD if you're going to dabble with psychedelic substances. To this day I am very thankful I managed to make it through the experience because the whole way through it I knew this stuff was bad and couldn't wait for it to be over. Then for about a week later I could hear this zzzzzzz sound in my head and I thought maybe I had permanently damaged my brain in some way. Stay away from this shit, seriously. Some people say it's like LSD but to me it was absolutely nothing like it. LSD is super super suuuuuper CLEAN and far superior in its effects.
Yes I tried real LSD after this about a year later from when I tried Nbome. I have only done LSD once, it's a cool experience, very scientific world view, kind of interesting, I prefer shrooms for its spirituality effects though.
If anyone is reading this I still stand by what I said in my original comment, really think twice and hard about trying this substance it is not just some scare tactic by the media that we are all used to hearing, this substance is not good at all, what you hear is true.
Yes that sounds identical to what I experienced too. I experienced the abnormal feeling in the spleen too, as though you just know something is just wrong physically, weird energy feelings that just feel potentially dangerous but you just can't put your finger on exactly what it is. What dose did you take by the way, I tried 1200mg which I think is way too high.
It's a shame dealers are selling this substance in disguise, I guess it's just what we have to put up with substances being illegal as there is just no quality and reassurance controls. And as a whole I just think society might not be ready for legalisation any way so we are kind of stuck between the yes and no on the matter. It's good to hear you won't try it again. I think that is a very wise choice. If it's bitter or tastes like metallic when you put it in your mouth, spit it out immediately. It's not LSD.
I wish I read this stuff when I was 16, when I randomly discovered a Psilocybe species growing in the bushland park near my childhood home/town. I remember the first time when I ate the three blue staining fungi, not completely sure what to expect, not sure if I had poisoned myself. That experience as well as my first very positive Cannabinoid experience a year earlier, directed my interests and future career path 16 years ago.
Got a “acid tab” but it really was 25i (the person who dosed it or whatever must have put to much because it was way to intense) and man let me tell you it’s nothing like lsd, way more insane and way more weird visuals. Basically thought it was my last day on earth
Like many of the other commenters i took this thinking it was LSD when i was in my teens. I soon realized from the bitter taste that it probably wasnt, but being young and hungry to experience psychedelics i decided to take a chance. I was all alone after my family had gone to bed. The trip began with pleasant visuals and weird non-linear thoughts. Then the tightness in my chest and the axiety that ensued began. As i became more and more certain this wasnt acid and i could die from god knows what substance. I started seeing smiling creepy faces all over the walls, i walked to my kitchen with the lights off and it turned into a burning inferno with the devil in the middle. I knew i was just tripping but i really wanted it to end, no luck, so i decided id smoke some weed to calm down. This made breathing even harder but i got used to the tightness in my chest, closed eyed visuals were nonstop flashing images of colored clowns, spiders, and random scary shit. I sensed someone standing nearby but i could only see them from the corner of my eye. 6 hours later and thanks to all the weed i had smoked, the effects became milder. At this point the trip becamr quite pleasant and life felt like a video game full of mystery and wonder. I listened to music and vibed out, happy the challenging part of the trip was behind me. Later the fuckwad dealer who sold my friend the tabs admitted it was Nbomb. After that i did it 2 or 3 more times. Once i experienced hypothermia and some chest pain and decided to never touch the stuff again. Dont do this drug, always test your blotter, and if you absolutely have to, take a tiny dose and go from there. Happy trails
25I was the most intense trip I ever experienced besides 60x Salvia. I took 2 25i 500ug, the sky changing colors with clouds forming objects, My back yard grass grew 6ft tall and was changing colors like disco ball. Ny friends hair was doing the same thing but at the end of each piece of hair was waving and shooting out light beams. I was walking down my high school hallways and 2 Red Chinese dragons were flying on both sides of me looking at me. My friends were playing hackey sack and when they would bounce it, I could see the streaming tracers from the person how kicked it 3 times ago. It looked.
Aw man, that one time in front of a super mainstream nightclub (but they played charts and 2012 was a great year for charts!) having a smoke, I was convinced I looked completely normal, wanted to get back in and that girl stopped me right at the entrance and asked if I had been kicked out before and I was just like "haha, no way" and walked into the club real quick just as the bouncer turned around to check me out but I was already in. So --->don't fool yourself, you look high as balls on that stuff. My assumption is that your pupils get quite enormous and your eyes are pretty wide open while you appear like an absolute teetotaler in the presence of drunk people. And just if you care to know, I was always able to talk and think super-straightforward on the 25, I just couldn't see shit as everything had a ton of tracers behind it. But yeah, final verdict: LSD feels more "natural" and clean. Although having had a ton of fun with it, I always felt like I was on some cheap, chinese underground lab drugs.
The thing about HPPD is true, after taking fake acid or 25-NBOMe for the first time I had HPPD for a pretty long time, I never had that after taking real LSD or mushrooms.
my first psych and thankfully the only time I had it, took half a tab then the rest 4 hours in. was an amazing experience long boarding all night with my best friend on paved bike trails in the woods
Immediately tasteable. It's supposedly because it's dissolved by ethanol, not water like LSD. 25-i will also give you a feeling like your jaw is made of steel and it'll feel like it spreads across your face through the trip. 125 ug with weed involved lasted 12 hours.
Got sold this once in freshman year hs took it on the bus thinking I had 1.5 hours to come out same time as how long the ride home was and immediately it tasted off, within 20 minutes I was floating back from the school bus drivers rearview mirror like her eyes where staring right into my soul, as I slowly floated away from her gaze the windows in the bus the windows where just stars on a black background like in space and then I was back in my body, then quickly turned to the guy that sold me it (rode same bus) and asked what's up with the tabs? That whole bus ride felt like weeks, to this day that was a dope experience even with how stupid it was. The visuals were unique and I had a great time.
*Here's why people have died of the 25i* Do you know how small a microgram dosage is? people got their package of powder, thought that whatever they had measured out was way too little and ended up pulling a line that was 500 times a normal dosage. Like you know.. you don't just take a drug and die.. something has to go wrong somewhere...
If anyone buy a hallucinogenic substance in powder form, they most likely know the diffrence between 1mg and 500mg, dumb ass. people that died from this shit have taken much smaller dosages than u speak of. People have died from 2 blotters. My mate got severe vasocontrition which almost stopt the entire blood flow in hes arm from 1.2MG,. the whole arm was almost completely fking BLUE from the elbow up to hes shoulder. Do u think this is a safe drug then? he also have done this drug before that, same dosage, with no bad effects. This compound is a gamble,you must already be brain damaged if u think this drug is safe
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back in 2016 I had bought a sheet of what I was told was LSD. turns out it was 25-i and I did 8 tabs (again thinking it was LSD) while alone, and it was a terrible time my vision was pink for around 6 hours I felt so sick and ended up passing out, needless to say I threw the rest of the sheet out after I woke up and then did some research and found out it was 25-i and that people had, had worse effects from less then what I took. I consider myself lucky and since then I've always stuck to the "if its bitter its a spitter" mantra stay safe folks!
I was sold a few tabs of what i was told was 125 ug of acid. Either the guy fuckdd up or was evil because when i took 3 tabs and felt the bitterness i knew i was fucked. I havent been the same since. Insomnia, social anxiety , depression and signs of schizophrenia. I wish i could go back in time and not do it
Method Man it passes. I binged on nbome for a week and a half taking about 25 tabs total. Developed psychosis for a couple weeks and had some schizophrenic like episodes. Also experienced a few flashbacks and was pretty unstable. Its been about 6 months since then and im fully back to normal.
yesterday I got a tab of "LSD" and wanted to trip on my free day, and there was I putting this under my tongue and BAM bitterness, I was actually confused cuz I didn't even knew about 25i so I was like googling why is my LSD bitter... The moment I saw what I was consuming I immediately took it out of my mouth and spit it all out. This world scares me sometimes, how is it possible for someone to sell this kind of stuff
I woke up in the hospital after taking NBOME in 2013. Took what was told to be 2-CB. Extremely bitter to the point of numbing my tongue. I spit it out later but it was too late. I was also a bit drunk and went to the crowded club at New Year Eve. I remember I started hallucinating and started hard to deffirentiate between reality and visuals. I started going outside but then had out of body experience and just surrendered. I was jumping in pavement outside the club and wrestling my friends. They called my parents and took me to the hospital where I was sedated. For for 2 weeks after that I was waking up in panick mode 30 mins after going to sleep. Also had some mild sense or diassosiation for couple of months. But overall was lucky to be perfectly normal after that.
With my vast experience with 25-C and 25-I, I can understand this, but am thoroughly confused. I once snorted a dosage of roughly 2mg (volumetric dosing, but I got a hotspot. Was aiming for ~1/3 of what I got), and I must say though the body load was truly horrific, the visuals and sensory changes were outstanding. The clarity and vivid nature of the visuals I experience far outweighed that of any visuals I have ever experienced on DMT, Ketamine, LSD or 2C-B. Doesn't the body load outweight the benefits to you, too?
@@taddik6869 Yep 100%, though the sensation of experiencing them manifested itself completely differently to DMT. Rather than being all encompassing and separating me from this reality, the visuals were based off of the reality directly in front of me. Completely shrouding my whole visual field, but progressively and repeatedly if that makes sense.
I was 19 and double dropped two tabs of nbome at once then proceeded to get on the London Underground (I had been told it was LSD and thought I’d play some crazy golf whilst tripping for a laugh aha). Ngl i was pretty high pretty quickly, feeling effects after about 2/3 minutes and full on tripping hard after 20 minutes. About a total of 40 mins after i dropped the tabs I was on the train and I was so disoriented and confused my brain went into panic mode. Overwhelmed by my increasingly incomprehensible visual hallucinations I started to lose consciousness. After rebuilding my ego for a sec I regained consciousness outside Liverpool Street station, with my girlfriend and her friend awkwardly carrying my limp, high as balls, body. Shortly after that I started having seizures. I woke up in hospital with my mum, uncle, best friend, girlfriend and sister at my feet. Theres so much more to this story but the bottom line is: It was the most beautiful, transcendental experience I’ve ever had: full ego death, the viewing of my past lives and future self and since the trip I’ve found an entirely new and beautiful lease on life. I died in hospital but luckily I am still here to tell the tale. Pro tip: don’t take 25i aha
Trust me don't do it guys my boy had a bad trip on it and flipped destroyed his home got arrested another kid punched a window cut his arm so bad he bled to death in Santa Barbara Isla vista
I tried LSD once and the tab initially had no taste at all. But after I swallowed and started tripping i had an overwhelming metallic-like taste in my mouth for a good bit. Could that have been nbomb? Or do you know like IMMEDIATELY upon touching it to your tongue?
It's only when the chemical touches your mouth. It will be a very strong metallic taste, like licking a 9 volt battery, and your tongue will go numb. You didn't have an NBOMe for sure.
What is dissociation? Does it include derealization? I had a very unexpected and negative experience (well, at the time was terrifying, tho it was interesting after a couple weeks of integrating it) with what I later found to be a dissociative anesthetic (diethil ether). In this experience (veery sumarized) I had the absolute obvious certainty that I was dreaming, and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't wake up. The rest of the day the derealizacion stayed with me and the days and weeks after slowly faded away, although it hits me from time to time now, its controlable and somewhat even enjoyable to be radicaly questioning existance for a few seconds. My final question is if this has screewed up my mind or just changed it a tiny bit? I'm sorry I know a youtube coment section is not the place for psycotherapy, xD. Also sorry if I slipped some mistakes in my english.
Sergio_ montevideo Simply put: Dissociation is a mental detatchment from reality, wherein the body may function seperately from the mind, and the mind is (usually unwillingly) ignorant of most - or all - surrounding reality. There are several facets to this psychological phenomenon, and it takes as many forms. What you described may fall under our understanding of dissociation.
Sergio_ montevideo There is no current tie to dissociative episodes and any kind of measurable mental decline or "damage." The people who most often experience these episodes already have underlying mental illness. But yeah, I'd put money on you being fine. Psychadelics do change us, but not usually in dangerous ways. Still, don't just take my word for it. Check around on other forums.
Same here man. Anyone reading this, IT DOES GET BETTER. Slowly, and you might have your occasional episode if you get overly nervous. Everything will be fine :)
I was drugged with this substance recently at a popular bar in Woodstock, NY that looks like a railroad station I believe the female owner of the bar put it in my drink because of adverse interactions I had there with a popular local singer (and prominent member of the weasel clique) who I know has worked as a CI in previous decades and is now again cased up. I may have interfered with a controlled buy. It was an extremely unpleasant 3 days. Nothing about this in any way feels like LSD or anything else cool. I had heart palpitations and was unable to sleep for 3 days. It struck me as dangerous. The second day I was followed to my job by some 20something kids I have good reason to think were intelligence operatives who made sure I heard them say that, "I was going on another trip down the rabbit hole" Several of the nasty old fake liberals in town also repeated that in my hearing. Funny that they don't have actual LSD. Woodstock "pranksters" are a costume worn by the intelligence community. Some folks know what's actually going on but most are dupes. The town is used by the intelligence community for training ops and to establish new identities for narcs thus enabling them to recycle narcs in different decades. The "set" contains numerous snitch families with 2nd and even 3rd generation rats. The set has publicly advocated cooperation with law enforcement in drug cases and the people here mock anyone who does their time and doesn't drag someone else down so they can walk away. Everyone tied to the set who is not directly under their control has their house and often the car bugged this includes even high level people with real jobs like lawyers. The use of this unlawful electronic surveillance allows the local conspiracy and the intelligence community to use PSYOPS techniques to influence and control individual and group behavior and manipulate the social fabric. The "pranksters" bullshit and "headgame" is intended to create confusion that allows law enforcement and the intelligence community to work in plain sight, to mine the scene for information about emergent groups and players to take down and also to control the left and youth culture. This is how when the scene happens they are able to destroy scene history afterwards and strip rep and cred from players and families that earned it and give false rep to snitches. The pranksters lies allow the intelligence community and the local conservative mafia to use the hippies, artists, and musicians in our town as guinea pigs. All of this is superimposed on a powerful local conspiracy that looks like two things a conservative mafia and a liberal mafia that are diametrically opposed but are in fact is only one thing since our liberals are actually very harsh super hard right conservatives who pretend to be liberals. I would remind the public that there is no research chemical loophole. All of this was already covered by already existing laws. DEA put this crap and all the other RC's back on the street to refresh the scene and allow the set to regrow players, families, and syndicates to bust because they had already destroyed the families on the grid that were not under their control. This stuff is garbage and anyone selling it or dosing anyone with it should go to prison but of course these things were already illegal to begin with. Some of these things were previously classified drugs.
Paul Escudero omg! Same exact thing happens to me in Ebor City in Tampa! But I can only see it when Im 2cbing, or LSDing.....I think I will make sence of it after these mushrooms kick.
You did something to piss the wrong people off lol, I don’t think it’s government related though most likely just a high status family/corporation that has control of that area.
I took half a blotter back in 2013. So 500ug. It was a terror trip so, I ended up going to the hospital. Still felt normal a week after doing this, but I completely regret buying it. Since then I’ve been nervous to dabble with psychedelics. However I’ve taken dmt recently and it was eye opening
Elián Torres I’m 15 and I took one tab a few months ago and all I could tell you that is that shit is very very strong like no lie my mind was racing so quickly it felt like I couldn’t control it and all I could say is that stay away from it and other synthetic shit it also fucked up my high with weed I remember I didn’t smoke for like 2 weeks
Alex Lopez like he said. it could be bought for prices as low as 1 dollar. many drug dealers probably bought shit load of those and then sold it for 10 dollar as LSD. Thats a 9 dollar profit whih is huge for small dealers. My friend is a dealer and just doubles his money from what he buy it for. So x10 is amazing profit.
Easy to understand, LSD is more costly to produce than this shit. It require most likely more chemistry knowlage to produce, A more advanced lab. Harder ingredients to get. Also LSD is illegal. This one is not illegal everywhere. LSD synth is not that basic.
I know a story of a "guy" who took this compound. This "guy" took one tab of the stuff and didnt feel the effects after 30 minutes. In his infinite wisdom he decided to take a second tap he had with his friend. This "guy" then ended up breaking "friend"'s "vase" (early sign) and apologizing to "friend" then "guy" starts to have it kick in and this is where "guy" blacks out. And "friend" shares what he remembers as a fantastic experience where "guy" and "friend" have a fun time exploring this lesser know realm of being. But as time continues on "friend" begins to realize that "guy"'s condition isnt looking so good. "Guy" did things like talking to inanimate objects and telling "friend" that he was "really high" and yelling things. "Friend" decided to call in the heavy calvary and called his mother who was a trained nurse. Not the details are a bit scarce but "friend"'s mom started doing cpr on "guy" while the emergency medical services rushed to the scene which was in the country. "Guy" then had teams of people working tirelessly on him to keep him alive and his condition wasn't looking good. They told "guy"'s family that "guy" had a brain bleed among a whole host of other medical problems and he might not make it, or if he did make it that he may be brain dead. Luckily for "guy" he did make it although when he woke up at one point they needed a whole team of people to hold him down while they sedated him. "Guy" woke up in the hospital 3 days later and then started remembering again.
I took D5I when I was in high-school, this stuff was easier to come by so I took two tabs. My first trip ever and it was actually incredible and got me hooked to LSD for a short time. But I never took research chems again after that first time because I heard some horror stories but god I had so much fun. I remember every detail and do this day is one of the strongest hallucinatory experiences I've had, and I even got auditory hallucinations which I wouldnt.experience again till extracting LSA years later. I would not suggest it because like any drug, the fun is not worth the risk. Even the tabs I took were bizarre looking, plain white and like 5mm thick, they were cut unevenly so it didn't look like a square or stamped. And it was bitter, they usually are so if your acid is bitter, do yourself a favor and spit it out.
This shit had me hugging a bed frame at a meth house my "friend" dumped me off at, I thought air was poison and at any second I would die, I went completely off the deep end from 3 tabs
I've never had a heroic dose of any psych and these are my opinions of 25i. 25i trips were always some of the most uncomfortable trips. My jaw and teeth and mouth was locked and grinding and numb the whole time. I found myself in negative loops more often than LSD and definite points of delirium. Though, I quite enjoyed the hallucinations. They were different than LSD ones, and just as interesting. However, I have a reliable source of LSD now and I have currently no desire to seek out 25i. I'm not sure I would have done 25i back in the days when it was new, if I knew how dangerous it is, and if I had a source for LSD.
on lsd have u ever had any similar expiriences with your jaw,because thats what made me become so suspicious of what i took few weeks ago,i read about nbome a lot now and this seems to be a common theme,something i cant remember expireincing on acid...
@@Thegamecheats turns out it was lsd but in the time i was getting off of nicotine,the vasoconstriction can happen on lsd anyway just never happened to me before ,i just only noticed it cuz i was having withdrawals from nicotine and it made the trip get a very tense,also it was a very high dosage,much more than i have thougt it was around 450 ug i expected a 200 ug trip tho,my friend dosed em wrong but im ok now and have had many more trips on lsd and other psys
sn0w basic pharmacology implies that if you take something like amphetamine which is fairly basic, taking something acidic like vinegar would shorten duration, while taking TUMS should increase its duration
.. so lucky to be alive after two tabs, thinking it was just some new LSD at a music fest. 10 minutes after, one of the young girls in the group asked if I took both and said some scary shit.. Had tremendously vibrant neon visuals with robotic elves in pulsating, glowing huts working away on gears that were pretending not to notice that I could see and hear them. Had really crazy flashes of being lost by myself in South America with herds of Cattle flying by me then realizing I'm still in the campgrounds and hadn't moved more than 15 ft. since I took it and was lost in a sea of EDM fest goers. . I was already so dehydrated from a long week of construction in 90°heat,and a huge drinker,so, when my legs and body started cramping up like never before, I was terrified that I was going to seize up and legs were going to be amputated if I ended up surviving. Thankfully one of my close friends found me when I lost 20 ft from our collective site I told her she really had to make sure I didn't wonder off and gonna need help getting water. Drank and drank and kept getting lost 20 ft away and she'd appear with another bottle of water. Lasted all night. I'm pretty sure I ruined her night being so needy, but pretty sure she saved me from something I hate to imagine. Was cool as hell until I started cramping up like never before and could never find anyone recognizable around me, even though they were.
Oh get over your little ...Im a lil girl.. I almost died, reeeeeee. 😉
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I bought "acid" from a friend of mine about three weeks ago and it turned out to be 25i... Don't blame him though, he bought it from his dealer who told him it was acid and he just wanted to help me out. Essentially I'm just as big an idiot as the dealer for selling it to me as I didn't test it even though I planned on it; DO NOT TAKE ACID WITHOUT TESTING FIRST. My friend took two tabs of it and now's he's just different. He never wants to hang out he just wants to be alone and drink. Long story short I thought I was gunna die on this stuff and I'm probably lucky I didn't since I took a gel tab...
Thats exactly what happened 2 me a friend got it from his plug who had the real deal before but this shit is fucked up i dont like it at all nothing like real L im fucking pissed! It feels like what i imagine crack is like.
YES SAME he didnt even ask the drug dealer what it was i put both of them on my tounge and hospital right away i attacked my dad good that i didnt have a weapon on me
This stuff wasn't around when I was taking psychedelics. Hell,I had never heard of this stuff until today. Glad I did all my freaking out back in the late 80s & early 90s.
eintreich101 Hey douchebag, there’s no need to be an asshole. And only a small minority of people taste a slightly metallic taste with lsd, most people will not taste it at all. In my experience, 25-I and compounds like it taste like pennies
Had a friend who seized on 2 hits, went into a coma for three weeks. She luckily survived without brain damage to the doctors surprise. This was an extrem traumatic event as I was also under the influence of it, and had to get medics, and later talk to the DEA and many investigators. Read renaissance fair, psychelic overdose Montgomery tx
took 2 tabs in like 2015 and blacked out waking up with a puddle of vomit under me an a crowd of people looking down on the asking if i was ok... also my friends said i was walking through a busy boardwalk slamming my shoulders into random people and when they told me what i was doing i said i didnt feel anything. absolutely insane visuals.
I took probably 20 tabs in 2015(not all, but in whole year) and never had bad experience, but i felt like something is wrong, like my brain telling me ,,this is not it". The i found out it isn't acid
Fuck i had this a few times very weird its was fun but its downs for sure at one point i thought i was never gonna come down gave me hppd pretty bad buts it has gone away for the most part.
yeah, same here on the hppd part. especially when I had little to eat, stayed up late, too much coffee, smoked weed, stuff like that. Has been gone for many years now though.
Mine went away in about a week. It can take people months to years. It all depends on you. But for the most part thankfully people do recover at some point so don't worry. Just get plenty of sleep and improve your diet and get some exercise and try to take your mind off it as much as you can and before you know it will be gone.
Took me a full year but 2 years to be 98% back to normal 5 years later and if ive been awake to long or been abusing hard stimulants like meth it can bring back a very mild hppd for the next few days
don’t take this it’s evil. i thought it was acid for over a year and i’ve come to realize why no ones acid trips seem too similar to mine, i actually took 25i. literally went insane off one tab and just wanted it to end. i thought everything in the world it was not fun overall
Just a small correction regarding the naming of these -NBOMe compounds. The 'O' isn't part of the shorthand for the methoxy, which would typically be written MeO, although you sometimes see this written backwards when structures are drawn: R-O-Me . The 'O' in this case stand for ortho, which is the position that the methoxy group is in on the second benzene ring.
Do you have a citation for that? It differs from the published information I've seen. Given the structure of these drugs and OMe being a common abbreviation, the naming makes sense.
@@TheDrugClassroom While the NBOMe nomenclature, is widespread and quite adequate to name the compounds presently found on the street, and has been extended to include 2-hydroxybenzyl (e.g. 25I-NBOH) and 2,3-methylenedioxybenzyl (e.g. 25I-NBMD) derivatives,8 it is insufficient when attempting to name a broader range of derivatives. We therefore propose an extension of this nomenclature to include other substituents on the benzyl ring with appropriate numbering of the substituted positions. Thus, 25B-NBOMe would become 25B-NB2OMe, 25I-NBMD would become 25I-NB23MD, and so on J. Chil. Chem. Soc., 59, Nº 3 (2014)
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The Drug Classroom could you do a video on 1pLSD?
You saved more than 2000 lifes with this video, god bless you
On god, 5 years later I’m just figuring out what I got myself into lol
Imma save ur back parts with my front parts. God bless ur back parts 🙏
I’ve only ever taken mushrooms but I got a gel tab from someone and after some lazy research I decided to try it. It tasted really spicy and weird, so I spit it out and ended up here. Apparently “if it’s bitter it’s a spitter.” Glad I spit it out. I wonder how much of it gets in you just from biting and tasting it.
@@ETAisNOW get a test kit bro, you can get the Ehrlich reagent for like 15$ to 20$
Be safe 🍄❤
@@ETAisNOWyou don’t fucking bite it bro
I was hospitalized from an 25i intake. Took two big tabs and warped through space and time destroyed my room, got tazed twice and sedated and was in a coma for a day. Next day I was perfectly fine.
Got that same shit. Destroyed my room smashed my hand full of mirror. Got in a fight with police took them 4 man and 2 doctor's to put me in to a ambulance. Woke up next day left hospital in 15 minuts. They seem to call it a excited delirium syndrome. Never taking that crap again just sticking with acid and shrooms
Yeah same happend to me, took 2 tabs taught it was lsd. it was fine the fiest hour but i kicked in way faster than lsd. Then i started falling out of reality and had these really bad tought loops and started getting really agressive. And went out in the neighbourhood screaming and freaking out in a horrible delirium/psychosis. They called the police and was hospitilised. All i remeber is waking up in the hospital really confused. Stay away from this shit. it will give you a horrible trip.
I’m sorry you guys felt that, I’ve only had lsd and 1p lsd, 2cb STICK TO THAT !
Andrew Woolard good story for the grandkids tho
Ya got the same...went absolutely insane nearly I died..ended naked jumping on cars
Timestamps:
00:46 - Effects
05:08 - Pharmacology & Chemistry
07:46 - How It's Used
08:17 - History
12:31 - Legal Status
12:43 - Safety
If it's bitter it's a spitter.
also too late, lmao enjoy
@@lexamyr7948 Nah, I mean if you taste that it's bitter, there is almost no way you are not getting something in your system.
I could be wrong, if the substance isn't taken up well sublingually or through other mouth tissue then you'd be saved by spitting.
Vlad The Inhaler it has to be digested
@@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite it could possibly save you from an od if you taste it and spit it out before you get the rest absorbed
Not true, I have heard accounts of acid being bitter (tested) and non acid being tasteless at times, always test your stuff, only way to be sure
Had a half a tab and lucky I did because it had the strength of around 200ug LSD (approx 2 typical tabs). It was more stimulating, more physical load, a bit more dirty, zappy, and less magical then LSD. Had a good time but I would stay away from it. Easier to accidentally OD on it, its less clean, and the consequences are worse.
@Cameron Hawthorn I would just steer clear from it. Why risk death from an accidental overdose when there’s stuff that works good.
where you’re from the usual lsd tab is 100ug? holy shit in england our tabs are 250ug on average
@Cameron Hawthorn don’t recommend something that can kill people at all
@@lokadoka1861 It was the same story in Ukraine for 25 years, but now it's common to get 120 μg.
@@lokadoka1861 Damm I haven't seen LSD since college, I always was concerned about that kind of thing because of exactly these sorts of chemicals, but it seems there's always someone going through organic chemistry at every big university who has heard of Garbrecht's synthesis LOL
This is basically LSD's evil twin.
LSD must have dozens of evil twins then. Ever heard of bromo-dragonFLY
Yeah I did, since that shit is a part of the DOx family, I think it's not as bad until you stick to reasonable doses. But this 25i shit seems to play russian roulette with you.
that's how I feel about LSD...russian roulette
But why?
Not even remotely the same.
I used to do this stuff quite a lot - but it's not actually that hard to tell the difference between this and LSD. I can understand someone with less experience not really knowing the difference. I have had quite a bit more synesthesia than with LSD on both 25i and 25c - probably not the psychedelic for beginners, but I found it to be wonderful. A common dose is going to be enough for a first try, you won't be disappointed, most likely.
To be honest, I really enjoyed this drug - 25i and 25c - they're both quite nice, if you like phenethylamines. Just use care if you try them.
Great channel, by the way. I'm glad to find something like this on youtube.
I have no idea which one I tried. All i know is it tested as mescaline on a marquis, but it was on a tab so there’s no way it was actually mescaline.I had a blast though, It was one of the most fun trips I had ever had. Our best guess was it had to be an Nbome of some sort. At the time the bunk police kits didn’t have the book of reactions, just the one color wheel under the lid.
Does 25i taste different than lsd?
@@iverkristoffersen934apparently it tastes bitter
The very existence of the NBOMe series pisses me off, it's super hard to get real acid now. At least there where I live. Most people have no idea that there are shitty and dangerous replacements for acid, including the dealers. They seriously think they're selling lsd when they're actually selling NBOMes or DOxs.
Bizaron I'm from Germany, and my problems are exactly the same :-(
Lady H your support in this is going to be a blessed day and time
I am from Czech Republic and there is this NBOMe crap passed as acid all around here, literally NO ONE I've asked about it had any idea what an NBOMe is. So part of my vigilante agenda became spreading actual drug education (because the shitty form of it being taught in schools is absolutely useless). Because the greatest enemy to a shady dealer is an educated buyer. And if we educate enough buyers, the dealers will have to switch back to real acid as no one will want their crappy dangerous bullshit.
Bizaron Education is really important. A friend of mine (with him I wanted to take acid) has also never heard of NBOMEs and didn't believe me in the beginning, that our last trip was no acid at all. Fortunately I could convince him by telling the differences. But the Problem is that People who never took real acid don't know what this differences are :-/ now I'm looking for real acid die weeks and I'm not able to get some.
Same here, I was able to get 1 blotter of actual acid and it feels like treasure to me, so far i know it comes from the dark web. Whenever I tried to get some from street delaers or from "people who know people," I was given what I believe is DOM and there is someone here in my town who sells 25c-NBOMe as acid. Selling risky chemicals with shitty safety profiles as a well known and physically safe substance is one of the greatest dick moves one can do. I guess dark web is the solution.
Shulgin. My favorite Chemist. Thanks for acknowledging him, he was a great man and will always be missed by many of us.
I did this on Halloween with 2 of my friends. We each took 1 tab. Almost immediately I started feeling the effects and it felt like I was peaking off 2 tabs. It was enjoyable for like an hour, but then it really started getting bad. My friend threw up multiple times, I was shaking uncontrollably. My heart rate was insane, my teeth were grinding and they ached, the body high made me feel like I was on meth and tweaking out. The visuals were way too intense and overwhelming. I could barely walk and I felt like I was super drunk. Everytime I laid down I had awful nausea. 4 hours in I started having psychosis and suicidal thoughts because I wanted the trip to end. I couldn’t sleep for 20 hours after the trip. Nbome makes you feel disgusting and coked out. The visuals feel metal and fake and your mind feels like it’s drunk.
saaame i took a drop and within minutes i felt trippy first hr i was partying like on mdma and had fun visuals,then after 1 hr it started to feel bad rushing thougt and a jaw that felt so bad my neck was also stiff af i couldnt relax at all ,i had the same expirience as you its crazy not even coke felt that bad or speed because these 2 lack the mental part and the visual part thats why nbomes are sooo bad cuz they do give u a trip but90% of the trip is just a mix of meth like psychosis mixed with a bad lsd trip and muscle spasm and cramps
Hm did u guys take ?
Absolutely the same for me. It was also Halloween and i threw up a ton
The most shocking part about this video is that almost an ounce of cocaine on The Silk Road back then was ~150-190 Bitcoin, which is now over $1M
I have tripped on most common psychedelics, am a very experienced psychonaut, and never really had any problem. I did take 25-i at least 6 times, but my most recent trip I decided to go reeeal low, wanted to experiment if micro dosing it could have beneficial effects, so I took a quarter tab and then an other quarter 4 hours later.. now 2 hours after my second quarter a friend of mine smoked a joint.. I took two tokes.. it skyrocketed my trip hardcore.. went into sérotonine syndrome, now being experienced I was able to stay calm, but my hearth could not, I could feel it beating in my arthery in my belly as hard as it did in my chest, I had visual flashes of white trees and halls of eyes, which were sadly accompanied by a feeling of none profoundness attached to them.. I was puking what looked like slimy play-dho.. this all lasted about 10 hours.. keep in mind before my two tokes of joint I did not have any noticeable visuals.. I got severe anxiety for 2 months, wich i pretty much fixed with meditation, but 6 months later I am still stuck with severe HPPD and visual snow.. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that 25-i is very unpredictable, and if it does hit it's not just gonna be a "bad trip", the actual trip was kind of ok actually, but it can hit your body like a ton of bricks and leave you with fucked up shit, forgetting the fact that it can be fatal.. so yeah stay away..
Not serotonin syndrome.
hahahah THC doesnt even use serotonin receptors so how you gonna get sertonin sydrome you dummy
@@dmt4992 BUT smoking marihuana brings psychoactive effects because thc is a psychedelic, i had similar experiences lsd and some joints, sometimes it just boost's your trip really hard.. sleep and chilled mindsetting helped me to not freak out ..
Blubkeks100 yeah i know haha. ive used weed with every psychedelic ive tried
Paddy Ohara Im 19 and been smoking since i was 15. I just quit meth so that sucks lol
I’ve done this drug and I can tell you it was much crazier than LSD, Psilocybin or dex. They are all different, some better than others. This one takes the cake for me. Maybe I took more than I should but to quote a movie you may know it “made LSD seem like a ginger beer, man”
I'm sure these drugs have been around longer that it is historically stated, it looks like a chemically modified LSD, basically.
"I caught the FEAR, finish the f#$@ing story!"
For anyone struggling with HPPD, there is a way to help yourself, but it's not nearly as simple as medicating or wishing the symptoms away. This way is through the use of mindfulness meditation and yogic practices.
I've suffered from HPPD for a little over 2 years now originating from two separate 25-I-Nbome and 25-X uses/experiences. My symptoms visually, have slightly worsened since I had found out what happened to me, exacerbated by slight MDMA and cannabis abuse. The Depersonalization and Disassociation(the worse part) I've only just learnt to deal with this past year and function around. Not saying that for 2 years I couldn't function, for only those I chose to tell about my condition knew what I was going through. But to say, I can now realise how much for a fucking bubble I was leaving in. A bubble coated in purplely rainbow static and breathing patterns, filled with existential anxiety and the consistent question of my very existence. *such fun*
This bubble(a metaphor) only just properly popped towards the beginning of 2018 for the first time. How? Through the use of mindfulness meditation and yoga. I started practicing in 2017 and for a year now I've done 30minutes of yoga and 45minuets of mindfulness meditation each morning. This has essentially removed all feelings of Depersonalization, Derealisation and Disassociation, while feeling happier, wiser and healthier than I ever had before. While my unique HPPD vision remains, the purplely rainbow static and breathing patterns in my visual field are still with me, but don't faze me in the slightest anymore and mainly go unnoticed unless I choose to directed my awareness towards it. I feel like I've now, for the first time since the Nbome trips have grounded myself by into my own head and body, and no longer live outside my myself like I use to feel. I can even smoke weed again without feeling like I'm balls deep in a bad acid trip. I now get next to no anxiety from it like I use to.
With all this said. The best way to improve your HPPD symptoms would to abstain from any psychoactive substance use and to mix that with the meditation and yoga. But for a lot of us, through all the torment of this condition can not put down those drugs we do or used to love so much. So I would highly recommend these meditative practices, especially if you are one who is struggle with putting down the substances. I can now smoke weed, drink and even trip on psychedelics(only traditional, fuck Nbome and other RC's off) again without any usually effect or worsing of my condition visually or mentally, although I would ultimately recommend sobriety for I could be playing fire.
*I am sorry for this long read. I hope it can help anyone struggling with this condition to better there life. Regardless it will always get better so try not to stress yourself out too much. Thank you :)
And here's my tipp.. stay in complete abstinence for a longer period of time, that means not even ciggs or beer and ive heard from many with visual hppd symptoms, that it healed out.. absolute abstinence is one keyfragment .. i'm with u anyways 👍
I had a bad 25i trip in 2015 and I still have bad depersonalisation, de-realisation and HPPD. I feel like I am outside my body and my visual field is all warped and not smooth. Is that what you experienced? It is bizarre. I had a year of psychotic episodes last year which probably made it worse and I had a stroke during the 25i trip. I can't believe the strength and toxicity of this drug.
I have been doing the same with meditation and yoga and have recently added ashwaganda root vitamins to my routine and my mental health seems to be improving. I still see visuals in certain moments, which are mostly the melting effectvisuals, but the anxiety and brain fog is better.
@@laurenelizabeth9398 how are you now?
one of the best comments actually, thank you for sharing
Was a very experienced tripper before accidentally taking 25i-nbome. Only took two tabs thinking it lsd and only wanting a fun mellow time with a few friends. The hits we later learned were well over 1000 ug each as we got a call from the dealer the next day freaking out seeing of we were ok after he was informed. My friends and I were always very cautious. Ill admit, once i tasted the metallic flavor I knew I shouldve spit it out, but something told me to ride it out. Long story short? Was in and out of body multiple times. Could barely control body. Somehow we all maintained convo very well which helped. But then this happened. Felt myself going insane, losing grip on what little control I had. Saw myself fly through a tunnel. All my friends remembered the next part. We awoke in a pure white space in very very different physical forms. We came out of it and went back to convo. Next I, and I alone, went further. It started with my laptop. A white hole opened up on the screen with binary code and a rainbow of colors on the periphery of the hole. Before I knew what happened next my entire mind's eye was an image of a gold and brown Eye of Ra comprised of cogs, which in turn were comprised of flashing binary code. I felt the center of my head and forehead heat up and build pressure. It became too much, and everything went black. I came to again. Only different this time. I have never been the same. Been through several phases of being obsessed with knowledge, wisdom, and gaining as close to an omniscient-like mindset as possible in a peaceful way. Paranormal experiences peaked for about two years after that, which plenty of people were with me that barely tripped or anything also saw. Oh yea, Im the only sane person left of that group of nbome friends. One guy lost all sense of social cues and proper behaviors. The girl never wanted anything to do with drugs again and refuses to speak of the experience. The last guy will get extreme anxiety to the point of lashing out if you even mention tripping around him. He almost cried last time i tried to mention the nbome trip. I guess you could say our third eyes were forced open like, they already were kinda opening, but in one shot got fully opened. Was not pleasant. Fucking third eye rape. Take from this what you will.
What was printed on the blotter?
Holy shit
The first time I did 25i is when I was 16 and I was told it was lsd at the time and at that time I would do it frequently with tabs that had 2-3 drops and eat one sometimes two at a time.. now I’m 21 years old. I’ve had both good and bad trips, many of deja vu sensations and realizations. But one really intense trip took me overboard I felt like I was bi polar or had boarder line personality disorder for months! I really believed in my own intuition and something told me since I didn’t leave my trip happy I would have to go back in and sort things out. so on Christmas Eve 2015 I decided to take a heroic dose of 5 tabs of 25i.. and I stumbled upon a lecture by an author named Terrence McKenna called the Taxonomy of Illusion on UA-cam while I played GTA & that made me understand myself and the world around me a little simpler. I was overwhelmed with feelings of content and happiness. I felt like his speech helped me over come my fear of losing myself and my mind and had me so motivated into learning to the point where I would tell the fractal patterns bouncing off the walls how to react within itself and make them twirl and spin whichever way Id desire.. I haven’t done 25i since 2016 I’ve moved onto real tasteless lsd and mushrooms which I really love and have been researching so much about. so far I’ve eaten 7 grams and actually seen the construct of time before my eyes rotating in these transparent bubble like gears and I’ve also heard radio frequencies.. I plan on graduating to DMT very soon to meet the machine elf’s and to really try to grasp what all this really is. Kinda feels like I’ve lived this life before
Jesus christ have you deciphered the world yet?
have u tried wockhardt
@@aluryne lmfao what the fuck do u think
Be careful, you are starting to lose it. Be critical towards what you start believing while tripping. Not everything is real. This substances are called hallucinogens for a reason...
Thanks for tip with the taxonomy of illusion ill check that out, did you ever end up doing dmt and what was your experience if so?...hope your well
There was a ton of this stuff in my hometown around the early 2010’s (along with many cathinones, all coming from the Silk Road) We knew what it was, but assumed it could be taken in similar fashion to LSD and were unaware of the toxicity associated with higher doses of NBOMes. Many of my friends from our group (we were all ravers and most of us poly drug abusers/addicts) ended up in the hospital with psychosis or physical symptoms of overdose and some never recovered. THESE ARE NOT A SAFE ALTERNATIVE
I did it 4 times total. The second time, around 15 of us did it at a cabin out in the woods. It was the most profound psychedelic experiences of my life. I actually experienced REAL esp with some of the people I took it with. I could see people’s souls (or lack thereof).
The 4th time I did it, it was the scariest experience of my life. It’s the only time I felt like I may have been demon possessed. I also had this evil feeling super human strength and picked up my 220 pound brother like a baby and throw him like a sack of potatoes. I managed to crack a couple ribs from doing it. I was tormented by some unknown force for about 5 hours... it just kept whispering in my ear “you ain’t shit, kill yourself”. I know it was probably just a hallucination, but it felt very real. It was enough to make me NEVER touch it again. It took months to recover from that experience. That was 7 years ago.
It’s a big nope for me. 👎
I felt demonic vibes too. But also my cousin dropped like 30 hits for my 2nd time by accident. Every other day my ear rings as if a grenade blew up next to me
Sounds like a bad thought loop. Been there but the truth is you've gotta keep the mind moving. These same thoughts pop up on a day to day basis but you keep going for the most part either waving them off or being mindful of something else. Know thyself and never lose your truths ✌
@@2Cberry2 I doubt it was 25i if he took 30. He'd be dead dude or in serious danger.
Set and setting is important! Never had anything like that on 25i. Bad trips happen on all substances. I actually find 25i easier to steer away from things like thought loops compared to an LSD loop of the same... Potency feeling wise.
25i feels more dirty & static e than LSD
Perfect way of describing it
Static.. I went into my tv and realized how evil computers and technology was weird
@@jed_w agreed but also ive said more manufactured and industrial. With the right sitters etc id take a very high dose of Acid but not 25i. No sir. 2 tabs was my limit and the body load was horrific.
@222blu Word, for us highly sensitive a single tab can kill. Pure poison, it reminds me of fake weed in the way it feels more than DXM.
It’s the iodine. it’s not really a substance that we’re supposed to be putting in our bodies at such high levels (yes we do actually need it in very tiny amounts for certain hormones, but we usually get more than enough of it from our usual diets)
I took 2 tabs my second time tripping, I thought it was lsd. There were about 10 of us in a large house tripping, it was fun until all but 3 of us were stuck in thought loops. I felt like I had multiple braingasms if that’s a thing.. visually it was beautiful, I had fun, but the kid who had sold it to us took like 10 tabs after taking Molly in the days before and went to the hospital and we thought he died. I didn’t know the guy and I was honestly feeling so good from the drug I didn’t really care, me and my friend even acknowledged how this scary situation didn’t effect us and were questioning our sense of moral for not really giving a fuck about this kid. In the end it was fun but gave a very false sense of enlightenment. It was one of the most stimulating experiences I’ve ever had and the afterglow the day after was so beautiful but instead of bringing me into introspection it only blinded me from the realness of reality for a short time
Love all these tester kits that change colour depending on purity or whatever, as someone who's colour blind they're very helpful 😂
Your work is so much intresting and well made, thanks you for your videos
I took this drug or a similar analogue on accident thinking it was LSD back in high school. It was one of the most incredible, sentimental, introspective, and even nostalgic experiences. That being said I’d never try it again knowing what it was and it’s pharmacology, and I’ve tested everything since. Also worth mentioning that many people have taken very large doses of 25i and faced no apparent side effects, whereas other people have died by taking much less, meaning it’s possible that certain people have a sensitivity towards overdosing on this drug, another reason to stay away.
I remember when I was in highschool and 25i was still technically legal, there was a massive wave of it being sold as "acid." Mainly targeting people who didn't know any better. Once 25i was finally made illegal, it pretty much disappeared on the street and real LSD became much more commonplace.
I only took it once. It was interesting and very visually intense, but also nauseating, confusing, and far from a clean experience. A couple kids I went to school with completely fried their brains with NBOMes.
i had pretty much the same experience. i had read trip reports on erowid about lsd so i had an idea of what to expect regarding onset, timing, characteristics of the trip, etc… when i dropped my first tab i noticed that it tasted bitter, but i had a life changing trip with my best friend regardless.
later on i found out that what we thought was lsd was 25i instead. i think i took it 2 more times before finding out what it actually was, i remember my ~3rd trip being “bad” but it taught me a lot about composure. only took one tab each time btw.
tbh it didn’t really feel all that different to me. probably some amount of placebo effect/cognitive bias explains that… memory isn’t perfect, & that first trip was 10 years ago. never did it again after that. i mean, i never did it willingly lol. since then i’ve had lots of experience with lsd though, i’m quite fond of Lucy actually :)
Really should've bought that kit lmao, ugh.
Dae same lmao
The taste is also a dead giveaway
If you’ve taken 25i nbome and had negative effects, try not to panic as hard as it sounds. Don’t underestimate the power of your mind.
How can you say dont panic at people who expriencing badtrip?lol
@@sweetamanita8566 surrender and know that eventually it will wear off. It's worked for me in the past. Usually break through to something nice.
@@sweetamanita8566 Bad trips for me usually end up being the most beneficial ones in the long run, even though they can be excruciatingly traumatizing while they're happening.
But just in case, this is why I always keep a lot of benzodiazepines on hand when I'm partaking of hallucinogens or dissociatives.
@@sweetamanita8566 Breathing techniques are the beginning and go a loooong way in a bad trip scenario. Bad trips are almost entirely caused by anxiety or fear which results in the panicked heart rate which only blasts you deeper down the hole. Slowing down your breathing to calm your heart rate is the start to thinking logically while tripping shit at least hopefully giving yourself the time to calm down and remember you’re just on a drug and are safe. It’s done wonders for me and everytime I’ve felt uncomfortable or anxious during a trip it’s completely made the experience flip on it’s head.
@@telapathicygames3911Thanks for the tip
25i was the first psychedelic I ever took. It was amazing. I loved every bit of it. I felt happy as fuck and things were just fun to look at. I took 2 hits, but I don't know the dosage. 1 hit wouldn't work on me. I could easily tell that my head was fucked up and I couldn't think straight, but I just went with it and had a blast. I even kept getting myself into thought loops were I'd convince myself that it never worked and I was simply just high af off weed. Then I'd convince myself that no weed has made me feel like that before. I went through that process about 5 times to the point where in a slight moment I was thinking straight I had to tell my friend to not let me convince myself I wasn't on 25i. In terms of the visuals, they were alright. I wasn't straight tripping, but things looked bright and cool. Some things would start moving a bunch if I stared at them, like the clouds. The only part I'd say I was tripping was when I was convinced that a bag of completely good weed was a bag of dirt. I lost my shit laughing at my friend who I thought was smoking dirt lol. Sadly, when I took it I was the only one on it. I handled it pretty well though and had no real troubles.
about a year ago, thinking it was lsd, i took 2000mg (2 tabs)...
it brought on SEVERE hppd, psychosis, and schizophrenic delusions that eventually led to my ex cutting me off completely. they were the only source of happiness in my life and this caused multiple suicide attempts, i’m lucky to still be here. do NOT fuck with this stuff and ALWAYS test your tabs
u did not take 2 grams.
@@sticcy6219
@@sticcy62192mg
Unfortunately I relate to your experience so much. Still ruining me 11 years later
Now I know what the “ lsd” I got from this girl was thank you so much it’s been driving me crazy
I took 8 gel tabs which is usually normal for me with lsd and lost my mind and was terrified I thought I was stuck in a perma trip
@@josephshaw4157 You usually take 8 gel tabs..?
@@josephshaw4157 if that was any of the 2Cx nombe series your whole mouth would immediately become numb as you put the tabs in your mouth as well as have an INCREDIBLY dirty chemical taste and taking 8 tabs would kill most normal people so what did it taste like?
@@skywalkersworld yo I took 3 tabs of that shit last night I got fucked hope I dont die but I'm not rly tripping anymore
@@skywalkersworld first time acid experience too man :/
I've known people develop psychosis from this psychedelic, and friends who've taken it have never reported any "enlightening" psychedelic effects. I've experienced psychosis off a natural psychedelic, but it seems to be worryingly common with some synthetics like this.
I took it 4 days a week for almost a full year until I went into full delression at EDC and went into some zombie state where I couldn't respond to anyone. Got a few brain scans sense then because of seizures and I believe it's the cause of the Pineal Cyst I have now that causes seizures, migraines, and hallucinations that ARE NOT fun. Trying to raise a kid now and dealing with what RCs did to me has been a real struggle. I fear for kids these days and know I'll be teaching my son about this stuff early so he at least knows what can happen instead of being careless like I was. I once saw a girl drop dead while dancing at a festival... This was back in 2012. I can only imagine what's out now and the long term effects.
LaceChaser that’s fucking terrifying about the girl
You weren’t supposed to take it continuously like that lmao only once in a while
I've had many great experiences with lsd and mushrooms. I've never once had a good trip on 25i
I took 10mg first time, ordered 250mg from a chemist (legitimate site) before it was illegal.I redosed 4 times that night through Buccal first time and insulfation.
Very intense trip.. i wont get into it but i never left my room once the trip started going. Let alone be able to stand.I had hppd for a good 1-2years happy to say its completely gone today.
U mean 10 ug. Micro grams not milligrams.
Best video for users ever ! Really well explained (and based on experience).
So I’m sitting here learning about this drug up 8 years later. Back in 2011/2012, there wasn’t much online about it. I remember him telling me exactly what he took and I googled it right away. The only thing that came up in search at the time was a thread of people talking about wanting to try it. As far as one of those cases in Michigan where a teenager experienced seizures and had to be hospitalized, I can say for %100 certainty my friend is one of them. He ordered it online, had massive seizures, and I ended up having to call an ambulance. Doctors say he almost died from an elevated white blood cell count
I remember not too long ago I got sold 25i as LSD, I did 2 hits thinking it was acid, didn't taste the bitterness until about 10 minutes in of having them on my gums. I thought I could ride it out, but holy SHIT was I wrong. I played some TF2 waiting for the come up, all was well, I started noticing the effects, the most pronouced one was unlike acid, I felt very dissociated, I had no idea what I was doing in the game (with LSD I at least had some mental clarity) so I got off and watched some Vinesauce. This is when I started getting the flashing white and black colors, followed by intense organ pain. This was around midnight, I was all alone. I was scared that I was going blind, and that I was having seizures, followed by intense feelings of sorrow and guilt, I thought I was going to die, I was on the verge of waking my parents up to send me to the hospital, and imagined my parents crying after finding my dead body in my room. I was pacing my room constantly, turning the lights on and off, rocking back and fourth, this happened for about 2 hours or so before I got the idea to take a shower ~3am or so.
That shower completely turned my trip around. The intense effects kinda started to wear off, the hot water helped my muscle cramps, and my mind went from paranoid delusions to manic laughter and pleasure, everything seemed funny to me, and the rest of the trip seemed to be very nice. If I could describe 25i, it'd be like if MDMA and LSD fucked and had a Deliriant baby. In some ways I like 25i better than LSD, but its definitely a lot darker of a substance, definitely not something I'd take very often.
It wasn't the shower, i took nbomes about 4 times and always around 2-3 hours the effects wear down and i can think straight again and have intense euphoria! i took a tab last sunday and again same thing, i can't literally think or speak for about 2-3 hours and soon after, i return to earth i still trip and see shit but it's almost like i'm on some weird mix of speed/mdma/cocaine i just feel like i'm the shit and i'm so euphoric and happy... it's a really nice trip at that 2-3 hr range but the problem with this substance is that on the come up it sucks, i keep trembling and feeling nauseous until i can't either speak or think properly, barely could use my phone to text my friend to meet me (i was alone sat down at the bus stop waiting for him to come) luckly they found me because i wasn't able to function as i said always for the first 2 to 3 hours... and even after this i find it to be a shitty substance, despite feeling great like you'll get amazing feelings i often feel like i'm pissing and orgasming nonstop but i often feel some nasty heart acceleration like it's gonna jump out of my chest and some insane shaking....just unnatural as though i'm gonna pass out or have a heart attack and also you can get some pretty hardcore hallucinations i literally saw shit that people in my group didin't see and i find myself pretty suggestible to paranoia while under the effect... i can see someone freak out pretty easly on this specially at the first hours range since you can't even understand the things that are happening around you so you just go building up paranoia.
Ok so your one of the few people I've seen that had the same thing as me. I didnt experience the rest of that awful shit but I did experience the manic laughter as you call it. It was like a constant rolling around laughter. I have a question did you feel a slight numbness on the right or left side of yourself?
@@tylertodeschi7636 the numbness is you having almost an heart attack only ppl who feel that are extremely heavyweight ppl or ppl who binged on cocaine or methampetamine
@@ojberrettaberretta5314 r u being serious
@@tylertodeschi7636 yes
I took this years ago and now i feel permenant affects. I cant really take a full breath and feel relieved like i used too. Also things feel and look different and i think in different ways now. Can anyone relate or am i just over exaggerating?
stevepwn I understand this
I took 25i for my first trip knowing it was lsd.. now i understand why i had suicidal thoughts.
I did, but luckily it was small. It’s been about two months, every day is a little bit better. Some days feel worse than others, but I don’t think it’s HPPD, I think it’s latent anxiety that was brought out by it. Stay safe friends
Totally reply i got fucked 2012-2015 on this while in highschool and idk everything is different and wrong now i hate it and know more research needs to be done on the permnant effects of the user
lucky anson Just stay strong, I understand all these replies just keep in mind we are much stronger than bs chemical that isn't real. Stay positive. Keep striving.
I took this as my first psychedelic, it was a very introspective and creative experience.
I was gone for about six days, three of which I spent locked in a room to make sure my little sister didn’t freak out. I did a couple of drawings as well as listen to music the entire time. I wasn’t really in the right headspace to take it though because at the time my mother was going through cancer and my grandmother Passed away about a month prior. I do have to say it was scary after day two
I did 2 tabs of this when I was 14 and I scarred me for life the guy that sold it to me told me it was just acid
Some of the most amazing trips I’ve ever had in my life on this stuff
Acid frees your mind bro I got better with this and I can advise everyone to try be well guided to purchase ⬇️
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That one time I wanted to play video games real bad but the cords were all tangled and it looked like a pit of snakes moving all around. Took me like 45 mins to untangle, with multiple breaks cause looking at it too long made me confused as shit. Threw on some headphones, jammed out, back to the mess, confusion, repeat. I always had fun times with it , Stick to LSD though kids.
-DopamineDeficient97 imo shrooms are the safest because with anything natural it’s very hard to get fake stuff unless your plug is a psychopath intending harm because lacing them would put you at a cash defecit
@@nursejennyk40 Well nah shrooms are bad too due to them easily being mistaken for poisonous shrooms that will kill you.
@@AvatarRoku999 you’d have to be a moron to not be able to recognize real shrooms.
@@Ae0liann No they look very similar. I think you're the moron because you haven't done any research.
@@AvatarRoku999 all the more reason why you should know how to identify psilocybin dumbass lmao
enjoyed it, had a great time
Yea I did this around 3 times in my teenage years a couple years ago. Worst experience I’ve ever had. (All of them). The dealer was sketchy himself telling me it was straight acid. I wasn’t educated much on acid. I’ve had real acid my first time and it was powerful and felt clean. Still had a horrible ego death. My first time taking this fake acid, it was bitter. I thought it was normal. I immediately started tripping. It was all smiles at first until I started screaming and running around the apartment complex yelling at random neighbors for milk. (Yes milk) I was in complete terror. I had no idea what was happening. My friend was telling me to calm down and I had no idea I was acting out that much. My second trip was from the same dealer. I was a teenager and stupid and didn’t learn. I remember taking a shower before going to a football game and I took it. The shaving razor in the corner of the bathtub started to move and on my thought process it was trying to cut me and it was literally a satanic razor trying to kill me. I was still tripping getting ready and as left with my friend outside everything changed for the worst. I had this panic feeling in my body and immediately noticed the cars driving backwards. I was completely confused to why they were going backwards. We make it to the playground near the football game and I sit on the bench to take it all in. All the kids on the playground turned into demonic little kids and sounds of hell were coming from the playground. I couldn’t handle it anymore and ran out in traffic at the football game where all the cars were going to park. It was the most satanic, delirious, hell inducing trip I’ve ever had. I could’ve died from not only running out in traffic, or yelling at random people in a bad neighborhood. But the drug felt like death itself. Never again
Crying Clown thank you for sharing your experience, do you remember what designs were printed on the tabs?
parky man can’t remember unfortunately. But I do recall a red bitter liquid that would start to drip if I got it wet with saliva and it tasted so bad I almost vomited. I would place it on my tongue and it would come off on my fingers in red. I would immediately get affects from it.
I took a tab of this once. At the peak the night sky turned white, the stars turned black and my consciousness projected outside of my body to the inverse sky and tree line ahead of me. Then the trees in the tree line started warping inward towards each other and turned into a beautiful woman's face. I snapped back into my body when I thought my body would collapse because I was no longer occupying it.
Tried this shit before. Felt like a very dirty, toxic amphetamine with a very boring and uninspiring trip effect. Left my body feeling poisoned. Stick to the tried and tested Magic Mushrooms and LSD if you're going to dabble with psychedelic substances. To this day I am very thankful I managed to make it through the experience because the whole way through it I knew this stuff was bad and couldn't wait for it to be over. Then for about a week later I could hear this zzzzzzz sound in my head and I thought maybe I had permanently damaged my brain in some way. Stay away from this shit, seriously.
Some people say it's like LSD but to me it was absolutely nothing like it. LSD is super super suuuuuper CLEAN and far superior in its effects.
Yes I tried real LSD after this about a year later from when I tried Nbome. I have only done LSD once, it's a cool experience, very scientific world view, kind of interesting, I prefer shrooms for its spirituality effects though.
If anyone is reading this I still stand by what I said in my original comment, really think twice and hard about trying this substance it is not just some scare tactic by the media that we are all used to hearing, this substance is not good at all, what you hear is true.
Yes that sounds identical to what I experienced too. I experienced the abnormal feeling in the spleen too, as though you just know something is just wrong physically, weird energy feelings that just feel potentially dangerous but you just can't put your finger on exactly what it is.
What dose did you take by the way, I tried 1200mg which I think is way too high.
It's a shame dealers are selling this substance in disguise, I guess it's just what we have to put up with substances being illegal as there is just no quality and reassurance controls. And as a whole I just think society might not be ready for legalisation any way so we are kind of stuck between the yes and no on the matter.
It's good to hear you won't try it again. I think that is a very wise choice.
If it's bitter or tastes like metallic when you put it in your mouth, spit it out immediately. It's not LSD.
@@Void-uj7jd i agree its a absolute dirt nothing like real lsd
I wish I read this stuff when I was 16, when I randomly discovered a Psilocybe species growing in the bushland park near my childhood home/town. I remember the first time when I ate the three blue staining fungi, not completely sure what to expect, not sure if I had poisoned myself. That experience as well as my first very positive Cannabinoid experience a year earlier, directed my interests and future career path 16 years ago.
You got EXTREMELY lucky eating a random mushroom.. just because it bruising blue doesn’t always mean psychedelic.
Got a “acid tab” but it really was 25i (the person who dosed it or whatever must have put to much because it was way to intense) and man let me tell you it’s nothing like lsd, way more insane and way more weird visuals. Basically thought it was my last day on earth
Meanface Bobby good LSD will get you there too haha
Campbell Petrey yeah Ik but on 25i you can just tell it’s a fake trip it’s horrible
Simthegreatt yes, so bitter I had to drink something to get the taste out of my mouth
Simthegreatt never touched acid after that and prolly never will again, I learned the hard way. Now I just stick to natural psychedelics
Simthegreatt yeah man shrooms are amazing, they will come and go, there hard to find around in my area too.
Like many of the other commenters i took this thinking it was LSD when i was in my teens. I soon realized from the bitter taste that it probably wasnt, but being young and hungry to experience psychedelics i decided to take a chance.
I was all alone after my family had gone to bed. The trip began with pleasant visuals and weird non-linear thoughts. Then the tightness in my chest and the axiety that ensued began. As i became more and more certain this wasnt acid and i could die from god knows what substance.
I started seeing smiling creepy faces all over the walls, i walked to my kitchen with the lights off and it turned into a burning inferno with the devil in the middle. I knew i was just tripping but i really wanted it to end, no luck, so i decided id smoke some weed to calm down.
This made breathing even harder but i got used to the tightness in my chest, closed eyed visuals were nonstop flashing images of colored clowns, spiders, and random scary shit.
I sensed someone standing nearby but i could only see them from the corner of my eye. 6 hours later and thanks to all the weed i had smoked, the effects became milder.
At this point the trip becamr quite pleasant and life felt like a video game full of mystery and wonder. I listened to music and vibed out, happy the challenging part of the trip was behind me.
Later the fuckwad dealer who sold my friend the tabs admitted it was Nbomb. After that i did it 2 or 3 more times. Once i experienced hypothermia and some chest pain and decided to never touch the stuff again.
Dont do this drug, always test your blotter, and if you absolutely have to, take a tiny dose and go from there.
Happy trails
25I was the most intense trip I ever experienced besides 60x Salvia.
I took 2 25i 500ug, the sky changing colors with clouds forming objects, My back yard grass grew 6ft tall and was changing colors like disco ball. Ny friends hair was doing the same thing but at the end of each piece of hair was waving and shooting out light beams. I was walking down my high school hallways and 2 Red Chinese dragons were flying on both sides of me looking at me. My friends were playing hackey sack and when they would bounce it, I could see the streaming tracers from the person how kicked it 3 times ago. It looked.
salvia ext is probably the best drug although short acting which may be a good thing. but best trip ive had in a long time.
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Aw man, that one time in front of a super mainstream nightclub (but they played charts and 2012 was a great year for charts!) having a smoke, I was convinced I looked completely normal, wanted to get back in and that girl stopped me right at the entrance and asked if I had been kicked out before and I was just like "haha, no way" and walked into the club real quick just as the bouncer turned around to check me out but I was already in. So --->don't fool yourself, you look high as balls on that stuff. My assumption is that your pupils get quite enormous and your eyes are pretty wide open while you appear like an absolute teetotaler in the presence of drunk people.
And just if you care to know, I was always able to talk and think super-straightforward on the 25, I just couldn't see shit as everything had a ton of tracers behind it. But yeah, final verdict: LSD feels more "natural" and clean. Although having had a ton of fun with it, I always felt like I was on some cheap, chinese underground lab drugs.
That's because you were on cheap, Chinese, underground lab drugs.
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This is literally gods work
The thing about HPPD is true, after taking fake acid or 25-NBOMe for the first time I had HPPD for a pretty long time, I never had that after taking real LSD or mushrooms.
my first psych and thankfully the only time I had it, took half a tab then the rest 4 hours in. was an amazing experience long boarding all night with my best friend on paved bike trails in the woods
25I Blotter is very bitter and has a heavy chemical taste right?
yea that's right.
Also they numb ur mouth.
There's no point in holding it inside your mouth anyway, so just swallow it. If it's an NBOMe it won't be active by swallowing.
Immediately tasteable. It's supposedly because it's dissolved by ethanol, not water like LSD. 25-i will also give you a feeling like your jaw is made of steel and it'll feel like it spreads across your face through the trip. 125 ug with weed involved lasted 12 hours.
It’s a very weak metallic taste.
Got sold this once in freshman year hs took it on the bus thinking I had 1.5 hours to come out same time as how long the ride home was and immediately it tasted off, within 20 minutes I was floating back from the school bus drivers rearview mirror like her eyes where staring right into my soul, as I slowly floated away from her gaze the windows in the bus the windows where just stars on a black background like in space and then I was back in my body, then quickly turned to the guy that sold me it (rode same bus) and asked what's up with the tabs? That whole bus ride felt like weeks, to this day that was a dope experience even with how stupid it was. The visuals were unique and I had a great time.
*Here's why people have died of the 25i* Do you know how small a microgram dosage is? people got their package of powder, thought that whatever they had measured out was way too little and ended up pulling a line that was 500 times a normal dosage.
Like you know.. you don't just take a drug and die.. something has to go wrong somewhere...
If anyone buy a hallucinogenic substance in powder form, they most likely know the diffrence between 1mg and 500mg, dumb ass. people that died from this shit have taken much smaller dosages than u speak of. People have died from 2 blotters. My mate got severe vasocontrition which almost stopt the entire blood flow in hes arm from 1.2MG,. the whole arm was almost completely fking BLUE from the elbow up to hes shoulder. Do u think this is a safe drug then? he also have done this drug before that, same dosage, with no bad effects. This compound is a gamble,you must already be brain damaged if u think this drug is safe
skalmaa yeah my nigga thought his veins were exploding and he said he died literally. Like gone.
@@skalmaa Two blotters can contain an awful lot of chem. I've seen 2mg blotters out there. Took two once, and wow. I had a terrible night.
I recently saw an article about a drug called 'suratin' that is being tested to treat autism. I was hoping you could do a video on said drug as I find your content to be satisfyingly consistent in delivery and research. Much appreciated.
Correction, Suramin
back in 2016 I had bought a sheet of what I was told was LSD. turns out it was 25-i and I did 8 tabs (again thinking it was LSD) while alone, and it was a terrible time my vision was pink for around 6 hours I felt so sick and ended up passing out, needless to say I threw the rest of the sheet out after I woke up and then did some research and found out it was 25-i and that people had, had worse effects from less then what I took. I consider myself lucky and since then I've always stuck to the "if its bitter its a spitter" mantra stay safe folks!
Nice video!
I probably have a video series coming up about the synthesis of 25CN-NBOH in the future, the chemistry is analogous to that of 25I-NBOMe.
I was sold a few tabs of what i was told was 125 ug of acid. Either the guy fuckdd up or was evil because when i took 3 tabs and felt the bitterness i knew i was fucked. I havent been the same since. Insomnia, social anxiety , depression and signs of schizophrenia. I wish i could go back in time and not do it
Method Man nah you alright dude just take a break and never do nbome's again.
Method Man it passes. I binged on nbome for a week and a half taking about 25 tabs total. Developed psychosis for a couple weeks and had some schizophrenic like episodes. Also experienced a few flashbacks and was pretty unstable. Its been about 6 months since then and im fully back to normal.
yesterday I got a tab of "LSD" and wanted to trip on my free day, and there was I putting this under my tongue and BAM bitterness, I was actually confused cuz I didn't even knew about 25i so I was like googling why is my LSD bitter... The moment I saw what I was consuming I immediately took it out of my mouth and spit it all out. This world scares me sometimes, how is it possible for someone to sell this kind of stuff
I took 25i years ago and I'm still tripping niiiiiiiiiiiiihhhhhhhh
Still tripping?
I woke up in the hospital after taking NBOME in 2013. Took what was told to be 2-CB. Extremely bitter to the point of numbing my tongue. I spit it out later but it was too late. I was also a bit drunk and went to the crowded club at New Year Eve. I remember I started hallucinating and started hard to deffirentiate between reality and visuals. I started going outside but then had out of body experience and just surrendered. I was jumping in pavement outside the club and wrestling my friends. They called my parents and took me to the hospital where I was sedated. For for 2 weeks after that I was waking up in panick mode 30 mins after going to sleep. Also had some mild sense or diassosiation for couple of months. But overall was lucky to be perfectly normal after that.
25C-NBOMe is my favorite psychedelic
Joseph Bailey you must be an interesting person, for better or worse.
One of my favorites too. 800 ug was a good dose for me.
With my vast experience with 25-C and 25-I, I can understand this, but am thoroughly confused. I once snorted a dosage of roughly 2mg (volumetric dosing, but I got a hotspot. Was aiming for ~1/3 of what I got), and I must say though the body load was truly horrific, the visuals and sensory changes were outstanding. The clarity and vivid nature of the visuals I experience far outweighed that of any visuals I have ever experienced on DMT, Ketamine, LSD or 2C-B. Doesn't the body load outweight the benefits to you, too?
Nicholas Moriarty the visuals were more intense than that of dmt? Damn
@@taddik6869 Yep 100%, though the sensation of experiencing them manifested itself completely differently to DMT. Rather than being all encompassing and separating me from this reality, the visuals were based off of the reality directly in front of me. Completely shrouding my whole visual field, but progressively and repeatedly if that makes sense.
I was 19 and double dropped two tabs of nbome at once then proceeded to get on the London Underground (I had been told it was LSD and thought I’d play some crazy golf whilst tripping for a laugh aha). Ngl i was pretty high pretty quickly, feeling effects after about 2/3 minutes and full on tripping hard after 20 minutes. About a total of 40 mins after i dropped the tabs I was on the train and I was so disoriented and confused my brain went into panic mode. Overwhelmed by my increasingly incomprehensible visual hallucinations I started to lose consciousness.
After rebuilding my ego for a sec I regained consciousness outside Liverpool Street station, with my girlfriend and her friend awkwardly carrying my limp, high as balls, body.
Shortly after that I started having seizures.
I woke up in hospital with my mum, uncle, best friend, girlfriend and sister at my feet.
Theres so much more to this story but the bottom line is:
It was the most beautiful, transcendental experience I’ve ever had: full ego death, the viewing of my past lives and future self and since the trip I’ve found an entirely new and beautiful lease on life. I died in hospital but luckily I am still here to tell the tale.
Pro tip: don’t take 25i aha
lmao, full perspective. thx for sharing.
Trust me don't do it guys my boy had a bad trip on it and flipped destroyed his home got arrested another kid punched a window cut his arm so bad he bled to death in Santa Barbara Isla vista
I tried LSD once and the tab initially had no taste at all. But after I swallowed and started tripping i had an overwhelming metallic-like taste in my mouth for a good bit. Could that have been nbomb? Or do you know like IMMEDIATELY upon touching it to your tongue?
It's only when the chemical touches your mouth. It will be a very strong metallic taste, like licking a 9 volt battery, and your tongue will go numb. You didn't have an NBOMe for sure.
What is dissociation? Does it include derealization? I had a very unexpected and negative experience (well, at the time was terrifying, tho it was interesting after a couple weeks of integrating it) with what I later found to be a dissociative anesthetic (diethil ether). In this experience (veery sumarized) I had the absolute obvious certainty that I was dreaming, and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't wake up. The rest of the day the derealizacion stayed with me and the days and weeks after slowly faded away, although it hits me from time to time now, its controlable and somewhat even enjoyable to be radicaly questioning existance for a few seconds. My final question is if this has screewed up my mind or just changed it a tiny bit? I'm sorry I know a youtube coment section is not the place for psycotherapy, xD. Also sorry if I slipped some mistakes in my english.
Sergio_ montevideo Simply put: Dissociation is a mental detatchment from reality, wherein the body may function seperately from the mind, and the mind is (usually unwillingly) ignorant of most - or all - surrounding reality. There are several facets to this psychological phenomenon, and it takes as many forms. What you described may fall under our understanding of dissociation.
Sergio_ montevideo There is no current tie to dissociative episodes and any kind of measurable mental decline or "damage." The people who most often experience these episodes already have underlying mental illness. But yeah, I'd put money on you being fine. Psychadelics do change us, but not usually in dangerous ways. Still, don't just take my word for it. Check around on other forums.
Thanks for taking the time to write this comment, helped me too!! And maybe has helped or will help others too, so thank you very Much!
Same here man. Anyone reading this, IT DOES GET BETTER. Slowly, and you might have your occasional episode if you get overly nervous. Everything will be fine :)
I'm experiencing same shit right now... still tripping though
Glad I found this video, I thought LSD was overhyped but it turns out just I bought some 25I crap 😬
I was drugged with this substance recently at a popular bar in Woodstock, NY that looks like a railroad station I believe the female owner of the bar put it in my drink because of adverse interactions I had there with a popular local singer (and prominent member of the weasel clique) who I know has worked as a CI in previous decades and is now again cased up. I may have interfered with a controlled buy. It was an extremely unpleasant 3 days. Nothing about this in any way feels like LSD or anything else cool. I had heart palpitations and was unable to sleep for 3 days. It struck me as dangerous. The second day I was followed to my job by some 20something kids I have good reason to think were intelligence operatives who made sure I heard them say that, "I was going on another trip down the rabbit hole" Several of the nasty old fake liberals in town also repeated that in my hearing. Funny that they don't have actual LSD. Woodstock "pranksters" are a costume worn by the intelligence community. Some folks know what's actually going on but most are dupes. The town is used by the intelligence community for training ops and to establish new identities for narcs thus enabling them to recycle narcs in different decades. The "set" contains numerous snitch families with 2nd and even 3rd generation rats. The set has publicly advocated cooperation with law enforcement in drug cases and the people here mock anyone who does their time and doesn't drag someone else down so they can walk away. Everyone tied to the set who is not directly under their control has their house and often the car bugged this includes even high level people with real jobs like lawyers. The use of this unlawful electronic surveillance allows the local conspiracy and the intelligence community to use PSYOPS techniques to influence and control individual and group behavior and manipulate the social fabric. The "pranksters" bullshit and "headgame" is intended to create confusion that allows law enforcement and the intelligence community to work in plain sight, to mine the scene for information about emergent groups and players to take down and also to control the left and youth culture. This is how when the scene happens they are able to destroy scene history afterwards and strip rep and cred from players and families that earned it and give false rep to snitches. The pranksters lies allow the intelligence community and the local conservative mafia to use the hippies, artists, and musicians in our town as guinea pigs. All of this is superimposed on a powerful local conspiracy that looks like two things a conservative mafia and a liberal mafia that are diametrically opposed but are in fact is only one thing since our liberals are actually very harsh super hard right conservatives who pretend to be liberals. I would remind the public that there is no research chemical loophole. All of this was already covered by already existing laws. DEA put this crap and all the other RC's back on the street to refresh the scene and allow the set to regrow players, families, and syndicates to bust because they had already destroyed the families on the grid that were not under their control. This stuff is garbage and anyone selling it or dosing anyone with it should go to prison but of course these things were already illegal to begin with. Some of these things were previously classified drugs.
Paul Escudero omg! Same exact thing happens to me in Ebor City in Tampa!
But I can only see it when Im 2cbing, or LSDing.....I think I will make sence of it after these mushrooms kick.
@Paul Escudero sounds like u're being gang stalked
Paul Escudero explain more to me pls
You did something to piss the wrong people off lol, I don’t think it’s government related though most likely just a high status family/corporation that has control of that area.
Wtf bruh you are delusional get help
You should talk about how it tastes. Because thats a very distinctive factor of this drug
Don’t do it, worst experience ever
Justin O'Bara friend, one question, what hapenned after of this trip in your mind
I took half a blotter back in 2013. So 500ug. It was a terror trip so, I ended up going to the hospital. Still felt normal a week after doing this, but I completely regret buying it. Since then I’ve been nervous to dabble with psychedelics. However I’ve taken dmt recently and it was eye opening
Elián Torres I’m 15 and I took one tab a few months ago and all I could tell you that is that shit is very very strong like no lie my mind was racing so quickly it felt like I couldn’t control it and all I could say is that stay away from it and other synthetic shit it also fucked up my high with weed I remember I didn’t smoke for like 2 weeks
Gurjinder Singh I took a tab and it made me feel good
Maybe for you. Some of us enjoyed it.
was watching this while tripping on NBOMes crazy experience
I have a question, why drugdealers sell this as LSD, when LSD is really cheap to synthesize?
Edit: the word Synthesize
Alex Lopez it's obviously cheaper than synthacized LSD
Alex Lopez like he said. it could be bought for prices as low as 1 dollar. many drug dealers probably bought shit load of those and then sold it for 10 dollar as LSD. Thats a 9 dollar profit whih is huge for small dealers. My friend is a dealer and just doubles his money from what he buy it for. So x10 is amazing profit.
Hmm ok, so even LSD is really cheap, they prefer to sell you shit instead for getting more profit. I think it make sense if you dont have honor.
yeah well alot of dealers are without honor, thats why we need to legalise drugs so users don't need to deal with dealers.
Easy to understand, LSD is more costly to produce than this shit. It require most likely more chemistry knowlage to produce, A more advanced lab. Harder ingredients to get. Also LSD is illegal. This one is not illegal everywhere. LSD synth is not that basic.
We will be trying!
i actually enjoy 25i a lot
Fuzy tweaker
Yeah me too
}`{}{,{}{}{,{} same, I like the terror makes me feel like I'm in a horror film
hydrasicks χξϛ man if "the fear" hits me on a nbome trip i would literally kill myself
Diegochox overview dude my dealer still says it's LSD but I have a strong feeling I took NBOME because everytime I drop it it's a bad trip
I know a story of a "guy" who took this compound. This "guy" took one tab of the stuff and didnt feel the effects after 30 minutes. In his infinite wisdom he decided to take a second tap he had with his friend. This "guy" then ended up breaking "friend"'s "vase" (early sign) and apologizing to "friend" then "guy" starts to have it kick in and this is where "guy" blacks out. And "friend" shares what he remembers as a fantastic experience where "guy" and "friend" have a fun time exploring this lesser know realm of being. But as time continues on "friend" begins to realize that "guy"'s condition isnt looking so good. "Guy" did things like talking to inanimate objects and telling "friend" that he was "really high" and yelling things. "Friend" decided to call in the heavy calvary and called his mother who was a trained nurse. Not the details are a bit scarce but "friend"'s mom started doing cpr on "guy" while the emergency medical services rushed to the scene which was in the country. "Guy" then had teams of people working tirelessly on him to keep him alive and his condition wasn't looking good. They told "guy"'s family that "guy" had a brain bleed among a whole host of other medical problems and he might not make it, or if he did make it that he may be brain dead. Luckily for "guy" he did make it although when he woke up at one point they needed a whole team of people to hold him down while they sedated him. "Guy" woke up in the hospital 3 days later and then started remembering again.
Lets work together?
I was just checking out your videos. Quite interesting.
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TDC boi I hope you two do, that'd be lit
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I took D5I when I was in high-school, this stuff was easier to come by so I took two tabs. My first trip ever and it was actually incredible and got me hooked to LSD for a short time. But I never took research chems again after that first time because I heard some horror stories but god I had so much fun. I remember every detail and do this day is one of the strongest hallucinatory experiences I've had, and I even got auditory hallucinations which I wouldnt.experience again till extracting LSA years later. I would not suggest it because like any drug, the fun is not worth the risk. Even the tabs I took were bizarre looking, plain white and like 5mm thick, they were cut unevenly so it didn't look like a square or stamped. And it was bitter, they usually are so if your acid is bitter, do yourself a favor and spit it out.
This shit had me hugging a bed frame at a meth house my "friend" dumped me off at, I thought air was poison and at any second I would die, I went completely off the deep end from 3 tabs
We've lived similar lives
I've never had a heroic dose of any psych and these are my opinions of 25i. 25i trips were always some of the most uncomfortable trips. My jaw and teeth and mouth was locked and grinding and numb the whole time. I found myself in negative loops more often than LSD and definite points of delirium. Though, I quite enjoyed the hallucinations. They were different than LSD ones, and just as interesting.
However, I have a reliable source of LSD now and I have currently no desire to seek out 25i. I'm not sure I would have done 25i back in the days when it was new, if I knew how dangerous it is, and if I had a source for LSD.
on lsd have u ever had any similar expiriences with your jaw,because thats what made me become so suspicious of what i took few weeks ago,i read about nbome a lot now and this seems to be a common theme,something i cant remember expireincing on acid...
@@ojberrettaberretta5314 if your tabs didn't have a taste 99% LSD, I can't think of another psychedelic that fits on a blotter that has no taste.
@@Thegamecheats turns out it was lsd but in the time i was getting off of nicotine,the vasoconstriction can happen on lsd anyway just never happened to me before ,i just only noticed it cuz i was having withdrawals from nicotine and it made the trip get a very tense,also it was a very high dosage,much more than i have thougt it was around 450 ug i expected a 200 ug trip tho,my friend dosed em wrong but im ok now and have had many more trips on lsd and other psys
@@ojberrettaberretta5314 ahh yeah I get uncomfortable vasoconstriction for LSD and 2cb
Can you make a video on how urinary pH affects the absorption of amphetamine?
sn0w basic pharmacology implies that if you take something like amphetamine which is fairly basic, taking something acidic like vinegar would shorten duration, while taking TUMS should increase its duration
technically it stimulates excretion and not elimination but depending on the type of amphetamine, it may or may not work
.. so lucky to be alive after two tabs, thinking it was just some new LSD at a music fest. 10 minutes after, one of the young girls in the group asked if I took both and said some scary shit..
Had tremendously vibrant neon visuals with robotic elves in pulsating, glowing huts working away on gears that were pretending not to notice that I could see and hear them. Had really crazy flashes of being lost by myself in South America with herds of Cattle flying by me then realizing I'm still in the campgrounds and hadn't moved more than 15 ft. since I took it and was lost in a sea of EDM fest goers. . I was already so dehydrated from a long week of construction in 90°heat,and a huge drinker,so, when my legs and body started cramping up like never before, I was terrified that I was going to seize up and legs were going to be amputated if I ended up surviving. Thankfully one of my close friends found me when I lost 20 ft from our collective site I told her she really had to make sure I didn't wonder off and gonna need help getting water. Drank and drank and kept getting lost 20 ft away and she'd appear with another bottle of water. Lasted all night. I'm pretty sure I ruined her night being so needy, but pretty sure she saved me from something I hate to imagine. Was cool as hell until I started cramping up like never before and could never find anyone recognizable around me, even though they were.
did 2. bad idea. bare that in mind.
like seriously... bad idea. dont try it.
@@Chowanana did u do it yet i bought some last week but im probably first gonna do a half tab
I nearly died from this, was put in the ER after going into cardiac arrest and seizing. Absolutely awful.
Oh get over your little ...Im a lil girl.. I almost died, reeeeeee. 😉
I bought "acid" from a friend of mine about three weeks ago and it turned out to be 25i... Don't blame him though, he bought it from his dealer who told him it was acid and he just wanted to help me out. Essentially I'm just as big an idiot as the dealer for selling it to me as I didn't test it even though I planned on it; DO NOT TAKE ACID WITHOUT TESTING FIRST. My friend took two tabs of it and now's he's just different. He never wants to hang out he just wants to be alone and drink. Long story short I thought I was gunna die on this stuff and I'm probably lucky I didn't since I took a gel tab...
Thats exactly what happened 2 me a friend got it from his plug who had the real deal before but this shit is fucked up i dont like it at all nothing like real L im fucking pissed! It feels like what i imagine crack is like.
YES SAME he didnt even ask the drug dealer what it was i put both of them on my tounge and hospital right away i attacked my dad good that i didnt have a weapon on me
This stuff wasn't around when I was taking psychedelics. Hell,I had never heard of this stuff until today. Glad I did all my freaking out back in the late 80s & early 90s.
DO NOT DO 25i.... IF IT TASTES LIKE METAL SPIT IT OUT
If it taste like metal it's lsd you fucking idiot, if it's bitter then you have to spit it out
eintreich101 Hey douchebag, there’s no need to be an asshole. And only a small minority of people taste a slightly metallic taste with lsd, most people will not taste it at all. In my experience, 25-I and compounds like it taste like pennies
Had a friend who seized on 2 hits, went into a coma for three weeks. She luckily survived without brain damage to the doctors surprise. This was an extrem traumatic event as I was also under the influence of it, and had to get medics, and later talk to the DEA and many investigators.
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Why dont we just legalize lsd?
took 2 tabs in like 2015 and blacked out waking up with a puddle of vomit under me an a crowd of people looking down on the asking if i was ok... also my friends said i was walking through a busy boardwalk slamming my shoulders into random people and when they told me what i was doing i said i didnt feel anything. absolutely insane visuals.
I took probably 20 tabs in 2015(not all, but in whole year) and never had bad experience, but i felt like something is wrong, like my brain telling me ,,this is not it". The i found out it isn't acid
Fuck i had this a few times very weird its was fun but its downs for sure at one point i thought i was never gonna come down gave me hppd pretty bad buts it has gone away for the most part.
yeah, same here on the hppd part. especially when I had little to eat, stayed up late, too much coffee, smoked weed, stuff like that. Has been gone for many years now though.
king gav the nbomes gave me the worst hppd that's mostly gone away years later.
How long did it take for your hppd to mostly stop? Going through it right now
Mine went away in about a week. It can take people months to years. It all depends on you. But for the most part thankfully people do recover at some point so don't worry. Just get plenty of sleep and improve your diet and get some exercise and try to take your mind off it as much as you can and before you know it will be gone.
Took me a full year but 2 years to be 98% back to normal 5 years later and if ive been awake to long or been abusing hard stimulants like meth it can bring back a very mild hppd for the next few days
Great video tdc :)
don’t take this it’s evil. i thought it was acid for over a year and i’ve come to realize why no ones acid trips seem too similar to mine, i actually took 25i. literally went insane off one tab and just wanted it to end. i thought everything in the world it was not fun overall
Are nbome and nboh different enough to warrant an nboh video? Ive only really heard they're less harsh with the bodyload and vasoconstriction.
I'll just stick with weed.
I had a massive headache when I tried LSD. Never tested it but I am not dead, so that's good. Just wondering if that's a symptom of 25I-NBOMe?
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Just a small correction regarding the naming of these -NBOMe compounds. The 'O' isn't part of the shorthand for the methoxy, which would typically be written MeO, although you sometimes see this written backwards when structures are drawn: R-O-Me . The 'O' in this case stand for ortho, which is the position that the methoxy group is in on the second benzene ring.
Do you have a citation for that? It differs from the published information I've seen. Given the structure of these drugs and OMe being a common abbreviation, the naming makes sense.
@@TheDrugClassroom While the NBOMe nomenclature,
is widespread and quite adequate to name the compounds presently found on
the street, and has been extended to include 2-hydroxybenzyl (e.g. 25I-NBOH)
and 2,3-methylenedioxybenzyl (e.g. 25I-NBMD) derivatives,8 it is insufficient
when attempting to name a broader range of derivatives. We therefore
propose an extension of this nomenclature to include other substituents on
the benzyl ring with appropriate numbering of the substituted positions. Thus,
25B-NBOMe would become 25B-NB2OMe, 25I-NBMD would become
25I-NB23MD, and so on J. Chil. Chem. Soc., 59, Nº 3 (2014)