Thank you. They don’t even realize they play a huge role in why the WNBA suffers. If mainstream Sports Media doesn’t support or even cover the league then how the hell is the general public going to keep up😭😭 whole point of media is to share information w the public lol
2:10 Caitlyn is a outstanding player and will boost the WNBA and their visibility overall, but as far as ticket sales go I've seen on the team ticket sites that all of the Indiana fever have boosted prices whereas the other 11 teams have standard ticket prices
Won't happen! No one is taking their kids, especially their daughters to see a league full of studs. There's a reason why other countries have success in women's basketball but not here. The alphabet mafia took over and it's not good for families. @@Defender78
This is what bad sports like basketball depend on for viewership. You could have 2 back-up QBs on terrible teams in the regular season play each-other, and people will still watch it. Because the product is just significantly better.
@@grahamjl766 They've never been profitable without help and had plenty of great, high profile players. Even if there's a bump, how will that sustain itself?
If she does it will because she could potentially bring me eyes to the sport. That could lead to people paying attention to their local team when she comes to town or on TV. That potentially could lead to those people becoming invested in their team and their players. Especially if those teams are closely competitive with her team. Will that happen? Who knows. It's possible though. That's what happened with those other NBA greats. When the Pistons were busting up Jordan early on Detroit was electric and people kept following and routing for the Bad Boys.
Yep, the college level it's easier to follow, a nice story, and the tournament is something people can easily get excited for with limited time/attention spans. At some point many people are not going to have the time/enthusiasm to follow yet another league.
...sorry but as a casual fan, the views are becuz the rematch and the rivalry. They was pushin sabrina like this and wnba is still the same. I like that theyre pushing the wnba to help it, but caitlyn wont oush wnba to anything worth watchin...lets be fr
That’s all true… but respectfully Sabrina was not doing what Caitlin is doing so this could be different. I still agree that the rivalry and rematch was generating most of the hype. If Angel goes to the W that would further the rivalry
If WNBA players stop crying and hone more their game like Caitlyn. They will rise and grow in popularity. Caityln can help but its still will rest to the players to ensure their growth.
@@liulbitew14youre not wrong, its both the black and white narrative but also the rematch of last year’s finals game. If Iowa played South Carolina, it wouldnt draw the same interest and SC has a ton of black players
It’s not all about her …LSU and Angel Reese had just as much to do with the ratings ! In order for her to succeed she have to have a rival in the WNBA . No difference than Bird and Magic !
Very well said! CC is a generational talent, but I think a lot ppl skip over LSU part in the hype! It won’t be like that in the wnba even if her and AR do play each other. It won’t be LSU vs Iowa, it’ll be Indiana vs whoever drafts AR, that’s if AR doesn’t decide to stay.
People will now tune in to watch Angel Reese, JuJu Watkins or Paige Bueckers from UCONN. Caitlyn brought attention to the women college game and people have been introduced to some of the players that will move on to the WNBA in the same way men's college hoops used to be. So there is a chance the WNBA viewership will improve.
Why is Caitlin getting ALL the credit.. the Joker is just important as Batman.. If Batman had no villain we wouldn’t watch.. Angel Reese helped those numbers.. why is it LSU every time it’s higher
LSU and Reese did help to drive the viewership numbers up for sure. Caitlin Clark is great, no doubt. She's a scoring machine who makes shots from the logo and passes like Magic Johnson. She's also white and appeals to the mainstream media and the white fan base.
Angel Reese? Just because people hate her? I guess you can look at it that way. I never watched her once this year. I watched almost every Iowa game. Because of Clark. Reese is a slow sluggish lazy big woman. Her basketball skills barely register.
@@trhansen3244 I know u lying.. when have to even see centers getting steals on the break away.. Angel couldn’t run or jump after her injury.. u don’t gotta lie to speak highly of Caitlin.. Angel is a Center she she suppose to be fast? FOH
Let's keep it real. She'll have everyone's eyes, her first game 2 or 3 in the WNBA and then everyone's going to fall back and go back to the way it used to be. W and ba is just not a good product. You have to infuse the league with at least 20 Kaitlyn Clarks and spread them out amongst the teams
I disagree with that because the wnba needs a lot more than one player.... besides they havent been able to capture a substantial fan base.The product is boring...no likes watching it because the pace is slow and I can shoot and miss layups . Spectators like watching athletes do things that thet themselves arent able to do.Thats what makes watching sports entertaining 🏀
Rob is right i doubt it will put the wnba on the map but to credit the rating to the march madness tournament is bogus. Why hasn’t the rating been like that for other games with this format??
Right. Skylar Diggins is attractive and a college star and did not save the league. Her along with Brittney Griner and Elena Dell Donne could not save the WNBA.
@@lauriep2018 Look my sister… Caitlin Clark has a rough road ahead. Talent and personality wise, she has the “It” factor. It’s these hating ass 🐩 I’m worried about. I pray that the Lord protects her and that she is able to elevate the league and has a strong support system.
This is the best chance the wnba has but there’s still so much wrong from a male perspective. The women ncaa has the absolute perfect blend that the wnba stars doesn’t. The top players all have very marketable and different play styles and personalities from Clark, Angel, Paige, Cameron, JuJu, HVL, and even some marketable role players like Gabby Marshall. U got the main star, potential rivals who could become the main star, noticeable role players with personas and signature play styles. Also unironically the top college stars are decently attractive (which matters more than it should even in mens sports) and don’t give off the “lesbian” vibe the wnba does in the public eye which gets male audiences agitated. And then u even have well known coaches like lsu and South Carolina who have great resumes and personality also. Literally NONE of this exists in the wnba which is why the wnba changing even if Clark continues to perform is going to be difficult. Bc at the very least she’s going to need a rival who also has fame of their own like a Paige or even better Reese. But the chances of even 2 of 3 of them becoming not just all star level players but top 5 in the wnba very early to ride the hype they’ve built in college is low. If Iowa had a wnba team and could have Clark on that team that would’ve been generational since the fan base would be massive and guaranteed which could make the hype last longer. In Indiana bunch of people that may not be that invested in her might not care to pu to the games.
The women’s game will always have one thing going against it. They don’t have the best athletes in the world playing. Those play in the nba. Women’s game is slower, sloppier, and just not as good.
The Rematch between Clark vs Reese sold the game more than the Caitlyn Clark herself ! WNBA is not getting much from this! Women’s College does! WNBA has foundational issues to fix! She will do VERY VERY VERYYYYYYY VERYYYYYYYYYYYY LITTLE for the wnba!
The game was appealing because of the specific match up with Angel Reese. I may not have even watched the game, outside of wanting to see both those ladies battle. So I'm leaning more towards Rob's perspective. Nothing about Caitlin's performance would make me want to watch the WNBA... 🤷🏿♀️
Rob is absolutely correct..Chris her popularity isn't going to change how people feel about the WNBA..March Madness has alot to do with the ratings and the popularity that's happening
Chris is right. To say that all of this hype will do nothing to the WNBA is just hating lol. NBA viewership was declining before Bird and Magic entered, it’s very similar what Caitlin and Angel are generating
No way. NO ONE cares about the WNBA. They will promote her ad nauseum to the point of totally saturating her markabilty. She will be face of league but who really cares?
WNBA viewership isn't declining from a point of decent viewership tho. Bird and Magic didn't take a league with no viewership and give it views. The NBA still had higher viewership than EVEN TODAY before Magic and Bird, all they did was make it more popular than it already was. No players in ANY league of any sport have ever taken it from tiny viewership to respectable viewership. That takes time, infrastructure, business decisions, etc...
Sorry but that goes to Angel Reese period ⭐🏀 Caitlin Clark is one of the best basketball players in WNBA but Angel Reese is also an angel Reese put them all on the map period 🌹🌟
There will be an initial spike of interest, but you need storylines and characters for sustained success. The ratings were as much about the storyline/rematch of Clark vs. Reese as it was about Clark alone.
Maybe but only if she has the success of a Kobe, LeBron, Michael Jordan, Brady, Mahomes, etc. She needs to be the best player and dominate in order to make the wnba desirable. Because I have no plans to walk into a wnba arena in my lifetime, but maybe that would change if they had a truly great player.
Until the media, society and wnba athletes can convince people like my wife, my mother, my nieces and my female cousins to watch the wnba, they will never be able to draw real ratings. Women as a demographic in our country is not interested in womens basketball......period
That’s true, and honestly it’s harder to get someone to be a fan of a sport without taking them to a game in my opinion, and there aren’t many teams. I live in the south, closest team to me would either be Atlanta or Dallas but it would be a huge drive either way.
Paige Bueckers before the injury had this Caitlin Clark hype and she is ballin' too. If they both go for 25+ in this Final 4 game and Paige doesn't go back for senior year then there can be a WNBA rivalry worth watching
A lot of Caitlin's fans probably won't follow her. The were just new "fans" that wanted to see the great white hope beat the cocky black girl. Just like Larry and Magic. People weren't even sports fans and wanted to see Magic lose. Who knows what what a sustainable career looks like for them
@gregggibson33 straight facts! Unless the WNBA is willing to market their players by spending money like the NBA then no.The WNBA is satisfied with how their league is ran and CC won't fix it.Breanna Stewart 4x champion and yet she can't move the needle and they expect CC to elevate their league.😂😂😂😂😂😂Lmao.
Well that ball size is relative to the size of women’s hands compared to men’s …. Honestly, I watch women’s basketball so much that I feel like all the men look just big and clunky and crowded, like they don’t have enough room on the court. They don’t use the space on the court like women do. Maybe they need to make the courts bigger for the men. And women will dunk soon enough. And when they do, they are gonna fly and it is gonna look. Super cool! I’m not worried about that at all.
Chris you are ABSOLUTELY ridiculous with the amount of times you interrupt people when they're making their points. You're Christian, right.... Isn't one of the fruit of the Spirit is PATIENCE????? 🤦🏿♂️
I watched the Iowa, lsu game and it was still just a avg women's game. Everyone didn't care about the teams, it was more about the drama between Clark and Reeces and the coach. To see the arguing and mini fights. Other than that. Don't care. The game play was still awful. Gimme women's cornhole
I’m writing this before hearing Rob’s statement . I would argue that Angel Reese has every bit to do with those numbers . Also , being a one elimination game. Plus March madness is bigger than the WNBA . March Maddness alone pulls in a billion dollars 😂. Plz stop it Chris. Chris has lost his intellect since trying to prove Caitlyn’s greatness
Lol. Reese averages a double double with awkward 3 inch vertical lay ups. Clark pulls up for 30 and is doing something womens college basketball has never seen before. Dont fool yourself.
Caitlin may (or may not) be a star in the WNBA but I doubt it will move the needle. The league already has women players playing remarkably (though maybe not as marketable), but no one watches as the league is not good. Much like the NBA, where players are scoring like never before but no one watches because the league is so bad.
Clark is drawing better ratings than LeBalco James. 😂🤣 LeBalco is part of some of the lowest rated finals in NBA history. Lebron ratings are trash without curry. 😂🤣😂
No. She's just another Ionescu. What needs to ramp up is the physical play and heated rivalry between people like Cardoso and Reese. The WNBA needs a Bill Laimbeer type to hate and see big girls go up against and challenge. Viewership went up right at the moment SC and LSU got into that tussle. People like chippy. People like women being bullies in the post. Too often we see light hands and pulled back wrists. Scratches and scrapes, the hair pulling that happened in that game. Dirty play that gets a villain, gets people to watch. Colorful characters. The Rock was a booed villain before he became a hero.
nobody buys the same product twice in different grade/quality. it’s not gender it’s performance. if you like formula 1, are you going to pay and spend time to see a race full of toyota corolla and chevy malibu with rob parker behind the wheel instead of lewis hamilton? 😂😂😂😂
Honestly if I had free tickets and a meal plus drink voucher I wouldn’t go to an wnba game. Maybe if I had daughters that played basketball I’d take them but other than that I ain’t wasting time to watch a bunch of tall lesbians make layups.
indiana must let CC play her game. She needs to be ring general of the team. If not, WNBA will continue to fail. I will go and watch the WNBA (Her games only) for the first year to see what they do with her. I still cant believe theres a girl that actually is making me watch women's basketball
She could make them relevant which is something they’ve never been. The problem is the lesbians and black players will do everything they can to destroy her.
The point they are missing is you tune in to watch one team or player and start liking a player they play against. Then you start following that team etc. I was a Niners fan and watched them play the Lions in 96. Barry Sanders had a crazy td run and he became my favorite player and I followed the Lions the rest of his career. Clark will put eyes on the players and teams she plays against. The WNBA will definitely benefit from having her in it.
The wokies will scream about it, but (and I can only speak for myself) basketball for me as a spectator has to have a vertical component. Female game doesn't have it. Some women sports translate very well to a viewing experience. As a tennis player, I love watching the women play too. Basketball? Nah.
The WNBA needs to do a better job. They need more teams, and better leadership. The players need to stop pushing men away, and hating on younger talent. The WNBA has so much potential
I respectfully disagree. There is not enough talent to fill the current number of rosters. Expanding would be the death of the league. If anything it needs to contract. That would concentrate the talent, making the game play higher quality. You only expand when the talent bass exists to do so.
@@roywall8169 it’s not enough teams or roster spots. Rookies and top draft picks stay getting cut because it’s not enough spots for them. They could use a total of 16 teams.
@@Donnydon1996 why would you cut draft picks, unless they were not as good as the worst players you already have? Wouldn't you cut a current player with less talent? Why would you draft someone who isn't good enough to make the team, unless the draft wasn't populated with talented players? If that is the case, why have a draft at all? Sorry, but I am not convinced by your argument. 🤟🏻
@@roywall8169 they can never develop into a good player if they never get a shot. Many teams have vets. Of course a role player rookie isn’t as good as a role player vet. If they had a few more teams they’d be able to develop them.
I have never watched a women's college basketball game in my life Until the game you're talking about I will gladly watch Caleb Clark play at any Opera opportunity that Opera opportunity that I have
The answer is Yes! Because millions of young girls have now been inspired. In five to ten years from now those young girls will be super star players. Similar to the Curry effect. WNBA has a bright future. Talent level will continue to sky rocket 🚀!
No. The WNBA may be beyond saving. It's the only one that takes place outside basketball season. Once an NBA champion is crowned, fans are done and looking for a break, not to tune into more but lower quality basketball. Just look at spring football and how that's never been successful. Not saying WNBA should move the season because then you have 4 leagues (NBA, NCAA Men's, NCAA Women's and the WNBA) going on at the same time. I just don't think there is anything they can do grow the sport including the addition of a single player no matter how popular she currently is. At best her games will get higher ratings and live attendance... for awhile.
Am I the only one that remember’s the hype when Skylar, Della Donne and Griner were in the same draft class? Only to never get any media attention again once their professional career started, unless it was off the court.
I think they can, but it won't happen. They must do like Magic and Bird and have both women be on great teams to be the cornerstone of the league. If either one gets on some trash go nowhere squad it won't mean anything.
The funniest part of this coverage is the medias inability to cite WNBA Players, teams, coaches
Absolutely hilarious!
Thank you. They don’t even realize they play a huge role in why the WNBA suffers. If mainstream Sports Media doesn’t support or even cover the league then how the hell is the general public going to keep up😭😭 whole point of media is to share information w the public lol
Speaks volume to their awareness of WNBA. 🤣🤣🤣
No one knows wnba players.
I’d rather watch women’s college basketball and swap out 12 to 16 of the best teams to replace all the WNBA teams.
Caitlin Clark revitalize the WNBA ? No way, no how !! 😂 Can't revitalize something that has never been vital.
2:10 Caitlyn is a outstanding player and will boost the WNBA and their visibility overall, but as far as ticket sales go I've seen on the team ticket sites that all of the Indiana fever have boosted prices whereas the other 11 teams have standard ticket prices
LOL!
@@Defender78no she won't
Women don't even support the wnba that's one of the biggest problems. Bill burr was right
Won't happen! No one is taking their kids, especially their daughters to see a league full of studs. There's a reason why other countries have success in women's basketball but not here. The alphabet mafia took over and it's not good for families. @@Defender78
I actually watched the game last night, but I won't watch the WNBA.
Where you at North Korea oh my bad you're not allowed to watch TV
Wnba is bad morally
I went from never watching a woman's basketball game to 4 so far this tournament. 2 Uconn games and 2 Iowa so I'm super excited for this match-up!
South Carolina will win it all
@@spenser6353 Looking most likely.
@@spenser6353No one can name a single player on sc
She would have to have a nemesis or two that are comparable foes to match up with in order to draw fans, and it just won't happen
The ones she was with playing against in college are going to the wnba. Not to mention the women that are already there.
Angel Reese is going to the wnba that can be her rival
Juju and Paige beckers will be her rival in a few years
This is what bad sports like basketball depend on for viewership.
You could have 2 back-up QBs on terrible teams in the regular season play each-other, and people will still watch it.
Because the product is just significantly better.
@codyb.3015 why aren't people watching the xfl then? Let's not act like stars aren't what draws people in.
Rob is right and Chris is wrong
They didn't really define revitilize. We talking 5%, 20%, over 100% bump? Actually be profitable w/o NBA assistance?
@@grahamjl766 They've never been profitable without help and had plenty of great, high profile players. Even if there's a bump, how will that sustain itself?
If she does it will because she could potentially bring me eyes to the sport. That could lead to people paying attention to their local team when she comes to town or on TV. That potentially could lead to those people becoming invested in their team and their players. Especially if those teams are closely competitive with her team. Will that happen? Who knows. It's possible though. That's what happened with those other NBA greats. When the Pistons were busting up Jordan early on Detroit was electric and people kept following and routing for the Bad Boys.
Rob is correct...No one will care about her in WNBA
I agree
Ditto
Right now is her 15 minutes of fame... then it's over and she goes to the WNBA graveyard.
You will be proven wrong.
Yep, the college level it's easier to follow, a nice story, and the tournament is something people can easily get excited for with limited time/attention spans. At some point many people are not going to have the time/enthusiasm to follow yet another league.
...sorry but as a casual fan, the views are becuz the rematch and the rivalry. They was pushin sabrina like this and wnba is still the same. I like that theyre pushing the wnba to help it, but caitlyn wont oush wnba to anything worth watchin...lets be fr
That’s all true… but respectfully Sabrina was not doing what Caitlin is doing so this could be different. I still agree that the rivalry and rematch was generating most of the hype. If Angel goes to the W that would further the rivalry
If WNBA players stop crying and hone more their game like Caitlyn. They will rise and grow in popularity. Caityln can help but its still will rest to the players to ensure their growth.
No one was talking like this about Sabrina
Most people never heard of Sabrina until the 3 point contest, i didn't, meanwhile everyone know who Clark
That's the only reason I watched too. I doubt I'll watch any of the other games.
We'll see if the ratings are better I guess.
Yall crazy if you think ppl are not gonna watch her in the wnba maybe not every game but the games she plays
Has anyone actually tried to watch a WNBA game? It's not an easy thing to do.
“These gals sure make the game look difficult.”
One of my favorite Family Guy jokes lol
It is unwatchable but the overhype is real
Are you crazy! I always watch a WNBA game before bedtime. It knocks me right out. 😴😴😴
Have you watched today's NBA?
It’s not that difficult.
Fever ticket prices are crazy. Here in LA. Sparks vs Mecury $18. Sparks vs Fever $220 😮
The question is where the hell can we watch her play televised ball next year?
ESPN, CBS and the WNBA APP
All the hype will die down once she’s a bust. She’s too slow to dominate the professional game
@@spenser6353you know she’s goin to the wnba & not the nba right ??
On espn4 at 4am in the morning
Asking this question like google doesn't exist is funny lol
I agree with Rob on this one
Yea right..these people don’t care about her or women’s basketball..we all know the real reason most of them watched..
Lmao what’s the real reason? I watched because she’s a beast. Are you referring to Van Lith? Lol
@@thelaboys2871no it’s because it’s the narrative of black vs white
@@liulbitew14 no, that's what they want you to believe.
@@liulbitew14I couldn't care less about their skin color.
@@liulbitew14youre not wrong, its both the black and white narrative but also the rematch of last year’s finals game.
If Iowa played South Carolina, it wouldnt draw the same interest and SC has a ton of black players
I can see Chris standing in line for his sparks season tickets😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
🤣🤣🤣
*indiana Fevers @ Sparks * LOL
It’s not all about her …LSU and Angel Reese had just as much to do with the ratings ! In order for her to succeed she have to have a rival in the WNBA . No difference than Bird and Magic !
Very well said! CC is a generational talent, but I think a lot ppl skip over LSU part in the hype! It won’t be like that in the wnba even if her and AR do play each other. It won’t be LSU vs Iowa, it’ll be Indiana vs whoever drafts AR, that’s if AR doesn’t decide to stay.
Angel ain't no Magic
Missing the point @@Triniforchrist
Yes. I agree with your bird and magic comparison. They saved the NBA back in the 80’s. Caitlin and Angel win be saving the WNBA the same way
Bro as soon as she turns pro they will be looking for the next 😅😂
It's not like they were watching other women before, even in college. This is different.
They got the next with juju
Exactly
Facts, they should keep her in College forever
😂😂
People will now tune in to watch Angel Reese, JuJu Watkins or Paige Bueckers from UCONN. Caitlyn brought attention to the women college game and people have been introduced to some of the players that will move on to the WNBA in the same way men's college hoops used to be. So there is a chance the WNBA viewership will improve.
Nah. I'd rather watch paint dry than a WNBA game.
Why is Caitlin getting ALL the credit.. the Joker is just important as Batman.. If Batman had no villain we wouldn’t watch.. Angel Reese helped those numbers.. why is it LSU every time it’s higher
LSU and Reese did help to drive the viewership numbers up for sure. Caitlin Clark is great, no doubt. She's a scoring machine who makes shots from the logo and passes like Magic Johnson. She's also white and appeals to the mainstream media and the white fan base.
Angel Reese? Just because people hate her? I guess you can look at it that way. I never watched her once this year. I watched almost every Iowa game. Because of Clark. Reese is a slow sluggish lazy big woman. Her basketball skills barely register.
@@trhansen3244 I know u lying.. when have to even see centers getting steals on the break away.. Angel couldn’t run or jump after her injury.. u don’t gotta lie to speak highly of Caitlin.. Angel is a Center she she suppose to be fast? FOH
@@supablack LOL That was the slowest ugliest looking breakaway layup ever!
@@trhansen3244 suh she’s a center..
All the WNBA has to do is fix the Finals this year and have Clark Vs Reese. The WNBA is born!
Chris is a A GIRL DAD, House full of women and it shows!
Lol
True.
Definitely true my man is as soft as Cottonelle
Rob: "She can play in today's NBA:
Also Rob: "She's not good enough to make the WNBA more interesting."
Ok big Homie.
Nobody going to watch WNBA, they’ll watch for Caitlyn, but not for anything else!
No way, no how!
Nobody can save the WNBA is reality
Let's keep it real. She'll have everyone's eyes, her first game 2 or 3 in the WNBA and then everyone's going to fall back and go back to the way it used to be. W and ba is just not a good product. You have to infuse the league with at least 20 Kaitlyn Clarks and spread them out amongst the teams
When was it vitalized? Lol
I disagree with that because the wnba needs a lot more than one player.... besides they havent been able to capture a substantial fan base.The product is boring...no likes watching it because the pace is slow and I can shoot and miss layups . Spectators like watching athletes do things that thet themselves arent able to do.Thats what makes watching sports entertaining 🏀
How amny blowouts can you watch in today's NBA.
Rob is right i doubt it will put the wnba on the map but to credit the rating to the march madness tournament is bogus. Why hasn’t the rating been like that for other games with this format??
Many stars before her and they couldn’t save the WNBA
Right. Skylar Diggins is attractive and a college star and did not save the league. Her along with Brittney Griner and Elena Dell Donne could not save the WNBA.
@@phenomenal-fitness She is white and unfortunately that matters.
Hhmmm what stars before her had better stats than her? Apples and oranges
@@lauriep2018 Look my sister… Caitlin Clark has a rough road ahead. Talent and personality wise, she has the “It” factor. It’s these hating ass 🐩 I’m worried about. I pray that the Lord protects her and that she is able to elevate the league and has a strong support system.
@@lauriep2018🫡🫡🫡💯💯💯
This is the best chance the wnba has but there’s still so much wrong from a male perspective.
The women ncaa has the absolute perfect blend that the wnba stars doesn’t. The top players all have very marketable and different play styles and personalities from Clark, Angel, Paige, Cameron, JuJu, HVL, and even some marketable role players like Gabby Marshall. U got the main star, potential rivals who could become the main star, noticeable role players with personas and signature play styles.
Also unironically the top college stars are decently attractive (which matters more than it should even in mens sports) and don’t give off the “lesbian” vibe the wnba does in the public eye which gets male audiences agitated. And then u even have well known coaches like lsu and South Carolina who have great resumes and personality also.
Literally NONE of this exists in the wnba which is why the wnba changing even if Clark continues to perform is going to be difficult. Bc at the very least she’s going to need a rival who also has fame of their own like a Paige or even better Reese. But the chances of even 2 of 3 of them becoming not just all star level players but top 5 in the wnba very early to ride the hype they’ve built in college is low.
If Iowa had a wnba team and could have Clark on that team that would’ve been generational since the fan base would be massive and guaranteed which could make the hype last longer. In Indiana bunch of people that may not be that invested in her might not care to pu to the games.
If Reese and Clark are both competing in the WNBA then yes, there is a chance... If it's just Clark then no.
Women don’t even watch women’s sports
😂😂😂 Says a man😂
@@lauriep2018nobody watches women's sports. Not just women. Don't believe me take a quick look at the television ratings.
White folks confused who to root for now since it’s Paige vs Clark 😂. Untill it’s time to play South Carolina they will just appreciate both team.
Nice comment Mudhut, feel some value in your life now.
Yes, because black folks don't do the exact same thing.
Act all high and mighty if you want, but your s*it stinks too.
The women’s game will always have one thing going against it. They don’t have the best athletes in the world playing. Those play in the nba. Women’s game is slower, sloppier, and just not as good.
The Rematch between Clark vs Reese sold the game more than the Caitlyn Clark herself ! WNBA is not getting much from this! Women’s College does!
WNBA has foundational issues to fix! She will do VERY VERY VERYYYYYYY VERYYYYYYYYYYYY LITTLE for the wnba!
CC going to the WNBA is like giving a blood transfusion to a corpse.......😅
The game was appealing because of the specific match up with Angel Reese. I may not have even watched the game, outside of wanting to see both those ladies battle.
So I'm leaning more towards Rob's perspective. Nothing about Caitlin's performance would make me want to watch the WNBA... 🤷🏿♀️
Rob is absolutely correct..Chris her popularity isn't going to change how people feel about the WNBA..March Madness has alot to do with the ratings and the popularity that's happening
Chris is right. To say that all of this hype will do nothing to the WNBA is just hating lol. NBA viewership was declining before Bird and Magic entered, it’s very similar what Caitlin and Angel are generating
No way. NO ONE cares about the WNBA. They will promote her ad nauseum to the point of totally saturating her markabilty. She will be face of league but who really cares?
WNBA viewership isn't declining from a point of decent viewership tho.
Bird and Magic didn't take a league with no viewership and give it views.
The NBA still had higher viewership than EVEN TODAY before Magic and Bird, all they did was make it more popular than it already was.
No players in ANY league of any sport have ever taken it from tiny viewership to respectable viewership. That takes time, infrastructure, business decisions, etc...
Sorry but that goes to Angel Reese period ⭐🏀 Caitlin Clark is one of the best basketball players in WNBA but Angel Reese is also an angel Reese put them all on the map period 🌹🌟
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There will be an initial spike of interest, but you need storylines and characters for sustained success. The ratings were as much about the storyline/rematch of Clark vs. Reese as it was about Clark alone.
She would vitalize it not revitalize
Sometimes I think Rob disagrees just for the sake of disagreeing! 😂
Maybe but only if she has the success of a Kobe, LeBron, Michael Jordan, Brady, Mahomes, etc. She needs to be the best player and dominate in order to make the wnba desirable. Because I have no plans to walk into a wnba arena in my lifetime, but maybe that would change if they had a truly great player.
Hush
Wishful thinking. Caitlin will be forgotten after a few years in the WNBA 🫤
After 1;week lol
The WNBA will watch Caitlin Clark for one year, and after that, it will be the same as usual. What about Angel Reese. Lol.
I've never seen a wnba game but I'd watch Clark and Reese battle at the next level any day of the week
Until the media, society and wnba athletes can convince people like my wife, my mother, my nieces and my female cousins to watch the wnba, they will never be able to draw real ratings. Women as a demographic in our country is not interested in womens basketball......period
That’s true, and honestly it’s harder to get someone to be a fan of a sport without taking them to a game in my opinion, and there aren’t many teams.
I live in the south, closest team to me would either be Atlanta or Dallas but it would be a huge drive either way.
Have you looked at numbers for Clark every time she plays??? She is putting up ratings
More people talk about the WNBA than watch it. Somebody issue a directive? Weird.
rob is right on this one
Paige Bueckers before the injury had this Caitlin Clark hype and she is ballin' too. If they both go for 25+ in this Final 4 game and Paige doesn't go back for senior year then there can be a WNBA rivalry worth watching
Chris and Rob wont care because their both white . Sadly
Lower the rims
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Caitlin should just play in Europe. She is too good, too white, too patriotic, too straight, and too Catholic for the WNBA.
You might sadly be correct.
A lot of Caitlin's fans probably won't follow her. The were just new "fans" that wanted to see the great white hope beat the cocky black girl. Just like Larry and Magic. People weren't even sports fans and wanted to see Magic lose. Who knows what what a sustainable career looks like for them
So? Most people tend to cheer for the person that looks like them. It's only bad and evil and 'racist' when whites do it
Umm.... no she won't.
I mean, if she elevates it from unwatchable to marginally viewed by a small segment of the population, that would be something.
"might be able to" stop projecting your failures
She is above that farmers league lol
@gregggibson33 straight facts! Unless the WNBA is willing to market their players by spending money like the NBA then no.The WNBA is satisfied with how their league is ran and CC won't fix it.Breanna Stewart 4x champion and yet she can't move the needle and they expect CC to elevate their league.😂😂😂😂😂😂Lmao.
She will, beta male
For the WNBA to be watchable you need about 10 Catlin Clark and that still won't be enough.
People said the same things about Sabrina Ionescu in 2020 lol
I do think this new crop of popular rookies will bring new fans. But the W needs to do a better job of marketing.
It’s really only Caitlin tho, most the others are staying in school
My go to line in an argument @7:05
The "Great White Hope" crowd slash/ Tim Tebow crowd has found their new Golden Child 😂😂
Why do you have such a problem with it?
THEY CANT DUNK. Thats it for me gentlemen. Also, women use smaller basketballs, they should shoot better.
The average adult male hand is 7.6 inches and the average adult women’s hand is 6.8 inches.
Well that ball size is relative to the size of women’s hands compared to men’s …. Honestly, I watch women’s basketball so much that I feel like all the men look just big and clunky and crowded, like they don’t have enough room on the court. They don’t use the space on the court like women do. Maybe they need to make the courts bigger for the men. And women will dunk soon enough. And when they do, they are gonna fly and it is gonna look. Super cool! I’m not worried about that at all.
@@EvangelismforGod im pretty sure hoop isnt smaller. Smaller ball into a same sized basket is what im saying
Chris you are ABSOLUTELY ridiculous with the amount of times you interrupt people when they're making their points. You're Christian, right.... Isn't one of the fruit of the Spirit is PATIENCE????? 🤦🏿♂️
I watched the Iowa, lsu game and it was still just a avg women's game. Everyone didn't care about the teams, it was more about the drama between Clark and Reeces and the coach. To see the arguing and mini fights. Other than that. Don't care. The game play was still awful. Gimme women's cornhole
This is prooof people like when the talent is spread we don’t want to watch super teams we like competitive ball
I’m writing this before hearing Rob’s statement . I would argue that Angel Reese has every bit to do with those numbers . Also , being a one elimination game. Plus March madness is bigger than the WNBA . March Maddness alone pulls in a billion dollars 😂. Plz stop it Chris. Chris has lost his intellect since trying to prove Caitlyn’s greatness
Lol. Reese averages a double double with awkward 3 inch vertical lay ups. Clark pulls up for 30 and is doing something womens college basketball has never seen before. Dont fool yourself.
Caitlin may (or may not) be a star in the WNBA but I doubt it will move the needle. The league already has women players playing remarkably (though maybe not as marketable), but no one watches as the league is not good. Much like the NBA, where players are scoring like never before but no one watches because the league is so bad.
Yeah, if the WNBA were smart, they would, behind the scenes, develop a rivalry between them two players in the WNBA.
People care about nba and not wnba lol chris get over it you sound like you tryna push women sports really hard
Clark is drawing better ratings than LeBalco James. 😂🤣 LeBalco is part of some of the lowest rated finals in NBA history. Lebron ratings are trash without curry. 😂🤣😂
Give Angel some of that credit too
Its a start Rob
am just here for the 4 tickets in the windshield joke
No. She's just another Ionescu. What needs to ramp up is the physical play and heated rivalry between people like Cardoso and Reese. The WNBA needs a Bill Laimbeer type to hate and see big girls go up against and challenge. Viewership went up right at the moment SC and LSU got into that tussle. People like chippy. People like women being bullies in the post. Too often we see light hands and pulled back wrists. Scratches and scrapes, the hair pulling that happened in that game. Dirty play that gets a villain, gets people to watch. Colorful characters. The Rock was a booed villain before he became a hero.
nobody buys the same product twice in different grade/quality. it’s not gender it’s performance. if you like formula 1, are you going to pay and spend time to see a race full of toyota corolla and chevy malibu with rob parker behind the wheel instead of lewis hamilton? 😂😂😂😂
Rob is right women don't even go to wnba games 🤷
Men don't like watching unattractive women and women don't like watching women.
Honestly if I had free tickets and a meal plus drink voucher I wouldn’t go to an wnba game. Maybe if I had daughters that played basketball I’d take them but other than that I ain’t wasting time to watch a bunch of tall lesbians make layups.
Black vs white, angel vs devil🎉
indiana must let CC play her game. She needs to be ring general of the team. If not, WNBA will continue to fail. I will go and watch the WNBA (Her games only) for the first year to see what they do with her. I still cant believe theres a girl that actually is making me watch women's basketball
The WNBA needs to take that pick away from Indiana and give it to a larger market.
Yay more Caitlin Clark coverage. Did she turn water into wine? What am I missing?
No. She is just saved women's basketball. Which is almost as impressive.
WNBA is too manly. She should take the 5 million and head to the three ball league.
She could make them relevant which is something they’ve never been. The problem is the lesbians and black players will do everything they can to destroy her.
The point they are missing is you tune in to watch one team or player and start liking a player they play against. Then you start following that team etc. I was a Niners fan and watched them play the Lions in 96. Barry Sanders had a crazy td run and he became my favorite player and I followed the Lions the rest of his career. Clark will put eyes on the players and teams she plays against. The WNBA will definitely benefit from having her in it.
I will watch every Clark game they televise.
All praise to Clark and LSU but the NBA should feel embarrassed that they were out rated by any college game, I don’t care the teams or sport.
One game vs 82 😂😂😂 embarrassed for wat
WNBA was never vitalized.
wow those crazy numbers
The NBA riggory makes me sick
The wokies will scream about it, but (and I can only speak for myself) basketball for me as a spectator has to have a vertical component. Female game doesn't have it. Some women sports translate very well to a viewing experience. As a tennis player, I love watching the women play too. Basketball? Nah.
The WNBA needs to do a better job. They need more teams, and better leadership. The players need to stop pushing men away, and hating on younger talent. The WNBA has so much potential
I respectfully disagree. There is not enough talent to fill the current number of rosters. Expanding would be the death of the league. If anything it needs to contract. That would concentrate the talent, making the game play higher quality. You only expand when the talent bass exists to do so.
@@roywall8169 it’s not enough teams or roster spots. Rookies and top draft picks stay getting cut because it’s not enough spots for them. They could use a total of 16 teams.
@@Donnydon1996 why would you cut draft picks, unless they were not as good as the worst players you already have? Wouldn't you cut a current player with less talent? Why would you draft someone who isn't good enough to make the team, unless the draft wasn't populated with talented players? If that is the case, why have a draft at all? Sorry, but I am not convinced by your argument. 🤟🏻
@@roywall8169 they can never develop into a good player if they never get a shot. Many teams have vets. Of course a role player rookie isn’t as good as a role player vet. If they had a few more teams they’d be able to develop them.
@@Donnydon1996 developing into a player that can't make layups or shoots air balls from the free throw line isn't really developing though.
Ummm no
How can one re-vitalize something that's never been vital?
wow you are briiliant. Can I have some of your wit?
@@Gnofg
Not necessary. You already seen to have a dim-wit.
@@Gnofg
Are you upset because you didn't think of it?
@@xman9190 If you think so. Smart people know they are stupid. Stupid people don’t know they are stupid.
@@Gnofg
Is that a confession?
I have never watched a women's college basketball game in my life Until the game you're talking about I will gladly watch Caleb Clark play at any Opera opportunity that Opera opportunity that I have
That White girl can Ball, I would tune in every time she played, those three pointers were magical, Damn.!!!!!!
The answer is Yes! Because millions of young girls have now been inspired. In five to ten years from now those young girls will be super star players. Similar to the Curry effect. WNBA has a bright future. Talent level will continue to sky rocket 🚀!
No. The WNBA may be beyond saving. It's the only one that takes place outside basketball season. Once an NBA champion is crowned, fans are done and looking for a break, not to tune into more but lower quality basketball. Just look at spring football and how that's never been successful. Not saying WNBA should move the season because then you have 4 leagues (NBA, NCAA Men's, NCAA Women's and the WNBA) going on at the same time. I just don't think there is anything they can do grow the sport including the addition of a single player no matter how popular she currently is. At best her games will get higher ratings and live attendance... for awhile.
Am I the only one that remember’s the hype when Skylar, Della Donne and Griner were in the same draft class? Only to never get any media attention again once their professional career started, unless it was off the court.
I think they can, but it won't happen. They must do like Magic and Bird and have both women be on great teams to be the cornerstone of the league. If either one gets on some trash go nowhere squad it won't mean anything.
Rob's knowledge of the WNBA tells us all we need to know about what's going to happened 😂😂😂
Angel reese and Johnson are fun to watch too. Both teams played at a high level. High level always delivers. Wnba is more worried about agendas.