Good bit of kit Andy. I would wire it up differently, not directly to the battery. Also hide the unit away. Easy to rip it out if you can see it all once the seat is off. Hide it all!
Indeed - for obvious reasons I didn't go into disguising strategy and location in more detail! By the way if it is ripped out it alerts you about it (it has built in power too)....
Thank you for that - I think it's a great product otherwise I wouldn't be effectively advertising it here, its the fit and forget nature of it I particularly like....
Thanks as usual for your honesty, the costs of your Garage Queen must have really added up over the years ! I know she’s beautiful ! The Sizzapp is definitely something I’m considering.
Fair enough! I like the fact I can fit it and at all times know where the bike is (including where I parked it!) for no ongoing cost - “fit and forget” is the appeal to me…I accept no solution is 100% perfect. Most pro-criminals I understand first move a bike a short distance to see if a tracker is fitted before actually hustling the bike away to a lock up - so in that scenario the sizzapp works a treat.
I love them, I've had it for 15 months now and moved it from my old bike to my new one. the software has got better after an upgrade, in that there are extra features. Never had an issue with it and get a message within a minute of moving my bike. Well worth the money as it's a one off payment you do save over time. I have the other smaller version, the 2G-2 wire not the 4G-2 wire and it works fine, not sure how long 2G is with us for. I've never had an issue with my battery either and pleased it's always getting power. Well worth it
Thanks for posting. Sounds like a great product. One piece of advice, you should always connect the positive terminal to the battery first and then the negative. When disconnecting you should take the negative off first then the positive. Otherwise, you risk shorting the battery (and many of the bike's electronics) and take it from the voice of experience, you don't want to do that. :)
I was having heart failure as you DIDN'T disconnect the Earth when you did the install, Nearly had a "How not to Install" vid on your hands. I was waiting for the sparks if you touched the frame with that screwdriver.
To be fair to Andy he can do that safely, due to the angles the battery is at, and the open eye connecters on tracker it's just a matter of 1/4 turn and slide connecter in. But yes normally you would always disconnect the negative first think he would have done it correctly if set up was different.
Yep - I agree. First thing a thief does is to check for additional wires to the battery. With a Monimoto tracker, it can go anywhere on your bike and is independent. The batteries last at least 1 year, so not a big deal. I also like that it links to Google maps if the bike moves, so it is really easy to get directions to where the bike is....
@@KLRJUNE That's good to know thanks. I still think the Monimoto is a more elegant and better solution. The price difference is enough for 3 years Monimoto subscription.
Monimoto is a dodgy company i have their latest and they disabled it after a couple of months and demanded an additional £36 . No explanation either you pay or they disable the tracker, pisstakers 😤
What a great, simple and inexpensive tracker. Interested to see how it is in 12 months time. They could be onto a winner here. An updated video later, when you get used to the app and it's functions would be a good idea, which I'm sure you already have penciled in. Just a case of finding a day free in your diary haha.
Thats a great pocket friendly tracker Andy. However, it defeats the object if its easily found. Personally i would try to locate the unit under the tank or behind a side panel at the very least, & make the connection to the battery look factory & tape the wires to the factory harness to disguise them. Otherwise, looks great to me 👍
@ Rich Helm Agreed. Thieving scrotes can simply snip two wires and throw the unit in a ditch/hedge/down a drain and within mere seconds it's effectiveness is completely null and void. Unless it is so well hidden/disguised and made as tamper proof as possible on the bike then the whole point of it as a tracker is moot.
Sounds like a great product. I would like to have several except I have no confidence in our law enforcement to do anything with the information provided to recover the motorcycle. I've had two motorcycles stolen in August with six surveillance cameras recording the theft and all that they would do is take a police report over the telephone. I had the feeling that I could given them the name and addressed of the thieves and where the bikes were and no effort would have been made to recover the motorcycles. I knew I was in trouble as soon as they asked if the bikes were insured and if anybody was injured. However, if we did have a functioning police department for nonviolent crime I would have some trackers.
looks pretty good Andy, id be inclined to install it behind one of those side covers, take the thieves a little longer to find and disconnect that way ;)
I've used both, didn't pay for either of them, and I prefer this - which is why I swapped, I like the "fit and forget" nature of it - no fob to carry around seperate to your keys, no SIM subscription...just easier to manage. Only downside is potential for battery drainage but that seems minimal so far - compared to my "heavy duty" trackers - and it alerts me well before low battery is an issue - you can of course hide the tracker (this was only a demo of how to fit).....I can assure you there's no such thing as a "freebie"!!
I've used trackers for years - the £30 battery-powered ones you get on AliExpress (TK-905 to be exact). I've recovered two motorbikes using them. Total cost was £30 plus £10 sim that lasted for years. However the main problem I had was their size and having to charge the battery every month. I've recently switched to Samsung SmartTags which are like Apple AirTags but they work better because you can see a tracking history and see the movement of them, plus the range is more like 100m rather than 10-20m. I've tested them loads and they are really accurate and get pinged everywhere - obviously cities are better because they don't use GPS but rather, other SmartTags and Samsung phones. Great thing is they are tiny, cheap (£20 each) and the battery lasts about a year. It means I can hide two of them in each bike for redundancy. Definitely recommend them if - only catch is you need a samsung S21 or S22.
Also, as others have mentioned, I steered clear of trackers that use the bike's own battery because if you connect straight to the terminals it's really obvious and the first place thieves will look, and if you connect elsewhere in the loom, it's also possible to find but it's also a pain to install. Benefit of the SmartTags is you can be really sneaky with where you hide them!
Yes several have mentioned them - the more security the better! Persoanlly tags wouldn't work for me as I'm often riding in the countryside with no phones or tablets (or tags!) nearby....
You get an alert soon as the bike is moved, so that gives you time to take action and it also alerts if power is cut, it has a 3 hour backup power, granted if it's taken out before you take action the bike is gone, however I would rather have it than not 👍
@@grahamcunliffe9352 I think it would be okay if you did do that as long as it's drawing the same power, however I can't guarantee it, worth looking into, I'll ask Sizzap HQ 👍
@@grahamcunliffe9352 I have been informed that it can be done Graham, I'm in the Sizzap pro testing group, I have also been told that you can lengthen the wires, it will also not affect the warranty, hope this helps you 👍
Worth having - I just brought a similar tracker off Amazon more generic type that you charge via USB (or you can connect to bike battery) and battery last about a month between recharge and just uses a roaming SIM card that can use roam across many networks, globally. Works on both 4G and 2G, the key benefit for me is the ability to send SMS as soon as bike or moved, vibration alarm. So even if thief finds and removes tracker you know bike has moved quickly, you can then also use other apps such as IFTTT to do other things. What has been useful for is when I have done a good route I can use it to review the route and record it somewhere for future reference. More peace of mind I think that a real deterrent to thieves but often bikes are stolen and hidden to see if they have a tracker.
As someone who had to deal with the scum that nicked bikes in my previous life I support anything that helps in the prevention of crime. Despite the low cost I'm not sure this is a good product. Clearly, if your bike was stolen the thief would look under the seat. They will be aware that Sizzapps are on the market and with one swift pull it's disconnected and will no doubt be at the bottom of a river very quickly. MoniMoto a much better option IMO - can be hidden. No wires and very cheap subs of £36.00 a year - got to be a better option surely? Good to see the Triumph out and about.👍
Yes I used to use Monimoto but found (as I had multiple units) having to keep renewing the batteries and get the sims topped up became tiresome over time as did having to carry the fob separately to the keys. Seems there’s no perfect solution but I find the Sizzapp works better for me as a “fit and forget” solution…
I got one of these just before Christmas and they are highly recommended the support i got between Christmas and new year was excellect as like yours Andy it was offline but all good now as they expalined I needed to go out for first ride sometime to get it to kick off
International Mobile Equipment Identity I think. It is a unique identity for your Sizzapp box (normally the mobile phone). The first part (8 characters I think identifies the device type) Be aware people that mobile networks are planning to retire 2 and 3g networks as they need to reuse the frequencies for 4/5g. One last tip, the ground on the battery should be disconnected first and reconnected last so don't do what Andy did 🙂. The rational is that if you short the +ve battery terminal to the frame you will get some pyrotechnics. People wearing a ring be particularly careful
Thabjks for that - I can never remember which way round to connect/disconnect - having learned the hard way in the past I am always very careful not to create a short though....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Just think that the -ve is connected to the frame. If that is disconnected then connecting the +ve to the frame with a spanner, screwdriver or your wedding ring for an instant won't matter. Nobody wants an exploding ring do they?
Good morning Sir.. Just a quick holiday trick.. I was worried about my steed when on a touring holiday. I looked at trackers and realised that they were out of my budget. So I bought a second hand phone android and hid it in the panels. Then every time I went to do the tourist stuff l merely linked it to my main phone by what three words. Of course this means that there ware no, Your Steed is moving warnings. BUT at least when I used parking spots in unfamiliar cities and wondered about there was an easy find your steed map to follow. Of course if you check it and find the steed is way away from your parking spot you have to give your main phone to the police to use as a tracker.. 🤙🤙🤙
I have one of these on both my bikes and they are easy to install and setup. With some thought before installing you can hide them and you don’t need to use the battery terminals if they are easily seen but this means it is not quite as simple as you showed. It does drain the battery slightly but I have a trickle charger and don’t worry about it. The app has good features and the positioning is accurate. I like that it doesn’t need a subscription but it is only as secure if you hide it.
To check out its working you could always get someone to nick it. 😉👍. Also I’d plug it into a auxiliary connection so it’s not connected directly to the battery (fused), and a sneaky thief would take a while to find it!
I guess there are a number of pros and cons to one of these devices, and let's be fair about it, if a professional bike thief wants your bike,it's going to go. I would spend a little more time trying to locate it somewhere a little more tricky for a thief to find, but that's bike dependant. For £220 one-off payment with no monthly subscription fee, I think it's definitely worth a punt. One more layer of security can't hurt anyone this day and age!! You have a more chance of getting your pride and joy back with one fitted than without 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Yep, I think I much prefer my (Two) Monimoto's I have in my bike and car. No need to connect to the bikes battery and be a constant power drain, and hiding is a lot easier as you aren't restricted by tracking wires back to the battery.
I use monimoto too, but it seems every year I have to change the units battery. With hiding it well on the bike, it's a pain to keep taking it out. Seriously considering this Sizzapp
Lots of talk about how this can be easily found. This is true. And yea the app will tell you when it’s been disconnected but that doesn’t really matter to you the user once that happens. What I did was take apart a good portion of the bike, breaking down to heavy wire loom. Used a shop manual to find a positive and negative line and installed this tracker that way. I then wrapped it in automotive wire tape. It’s 100 percent hidden and even if a garbage thief gets it down to where it’s at, they have to know what they’re looking for. I have it looking like it’s all stock. I recommend y’all do it that way.
I just bought some to try - so far not impressed (I'm sitting less than 20 metres from two of them yet my phone can't find them!) - good in some applications but not if you live in the countryside with few passing apple devices.
Seems a decent device and hiding it better and the wiring would make it a really good device . Be good on the car also. But don't be letting the Mrs have the app 😮😮😮 😁👍
LIKES: Price No annual fee 4G DISLIKES: Size Needs bikes power Speed monitoring Monimoto still a win in this catogory for me. Thanks for the info on the device though. Ride safe.
Great review Andy but similar function to my TruTrak FMT100. That cost me about £30 with a £6 monthly charge. One bonus was that mine gave me a great overview of the route I took on my 5500 mile trip round Europe. The only problem I had was a couple of slight blind spots in Bosnia Herzegovina but I suspect dueto its reliance on the 4G connectivity that the Sizzapp will be the same.
@@TheMissendenFlyer agree 100%. The advantage I've found is there being no need to shell out such a large upfront fee (albeit small compared to many). The other advantage being that by paying monthly but with no standing contract, I've no need to pay when it's locked all secure in the garage over winter, simply reactivate it when it's in a higher theft use situation. Horses for courses. Keep up the reviews.
I have trackers on my bikes, prefer ones that don’t wire direct to the battery for reasons, most thief’s will lift the seat and cut any wiring to the battery other than the main 2 leads. While I do see a benefit with devices like these is the battery monitoring via phone app but the main one could be use this as a bluff for the thief to cut if stolen and have another battery tracker onboard like Monimoto, that way the thief thinks they have disabled but hey Ho you have it still tracked. Not trackers are not cheap so to have 2 on each of your bikes is an expensive thing. Maybe I need to come up with a dummy box with wires coming out to the battery 🤔😆
Yes, you can connect a device in another place where there are both a negative and +12V wires and hide a device. A lot of our customer are doing like that. The main things are that power should remain constant on these wires, even when ignition is turned off, and that device should be located (hidden) in such place to have enough satellites for a correct location and speed detection.
I put an Apple AirTag on my bikes. £29 and you can find me app to find the AirTag. Got one on my dog too!😀 . Only the side of a 10p piece and it lets you know if the battery is failing. Lasted a year so far . Just a thought. Love your channel. Best there is along with Fortnine.
Thank you very much! Trouble with airtags is they rely on beinbg near an Apple prodict to work - OK in town, maybe not in the country. That said I have just ordered one to see how it works and to compare....
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah you may be right but it’s better then nothing and very easy to conceal on the bike. Lots of IPhones even in the country. By the way, they are not recognised by insurance companies as a tracker. Cheers. Keep up the good work.😀
Yes I'm curious to try one when mine arrives - and for what it's worth I've never had a discount from an insurance company for any tracker I have.....so who cares if they recognise it as one! (unless it's T&Cs stipulation of course) - like those trackers on my cars are (ie no tracker no insurance)
Mark Davies. Looks good but what happens when the potential thief disconnects your battery? what power does it use and how much does it drain your battery.
If it gets disconnected internal power kicks in and it alerts you it has been disconnected. Doesn't drain the battery as much as the other trackers I have, I think it draws up to 100mA a day - alerts you before the battery gets too low so you know to plug the charger in (takes about a week or so in my experience).....
I backed the kickstarter edition, and I’m very happy I did! Mine will work only until 3G antennas will still be around, but so far I’ve moved it from bike to bike without a problem. The only downside is, imho, the mobile app. I started developing my own for iOS, would anyone be interested?
Yes but you have the inconvenience of carrying the key fob seperate to your keys, the hassle of two batteries to change and the ongoing cost of the SIM subscription - I used moni for a couple of years, but for me, this is way better - just fit it and forget it...only downside is needing to ensure your batteries don't get drained (and it even warns you well before that happens...unlike my expensive trackers!).....
I have a question. How does the tracker "know" its you when u go out for a ride? Sending out notifications everytime u go riding your own bike sounds terrible to me. And as many commented already but u surely already know, Connecting streight to the battery seems like a designflaw to me. Now maybe a different always powered connector on the bike where u can hide the device.
Good question! It doesn’t send me an alert every time I ride….no idea how it works, maybe it’s proximity to my phone?? Come to think of it now I’m not sure if it does send an alert if stolen or if it just relies on you asking it where it is….I shall try and find out and report back….
Seriously considering purchasing, already have Datatool installed with yearly subscription and an Apple AirTag hidden away, but there’s always room for more, especially as it’s a one off purchase with no on-going cost. My thinking is if thieves bypass one of them, there’s two more as backup. @Andy, has sizzapp offered any of your subscribers with discount codes we can use?
Apple AirTags - three tags for £99. I have a Monimoto on my new GS - which I’ve owned for years (thank you TMF), but the other two (and my e-bike) are covered with Air Tags. No Alarm as such, but you always know where the tags are via the app on your iPhone, and they’re easy to hide, being not much bigger than a 50p.
Trouble is, as I understand it, they need to be near Apple phone or tablet in order to report their position - might work well in populated ares (I dunno, does it??) but in the wilds of Scotland on a tour I'm not so sure. That said as many layers of security as you can are good, so the more the better.....
Freddie Dobbs has been using this device for some time now. Personally in my opinion a tracker on a bike is worthless. They are so easy to find and in less than 10 seconds you can usually locate and disconect them. In contrast the Apple Airtags are very discreet, hard to find, cheaper than this and therefore represent better value for money. 👍
I don’t know much about the AirTags, am I right in thinking they have to be near a Bluetooth or Wi-Fi connection to work? If so I’m not sure I’d rely on them as much as a gps/phone based tracker?
AirTags have to be picked up via Bluetooth when someone with an Apple phone is nearby. Probably fine in a busy urban environment, but if it’s left in a field somewhere in the middle of nowhere, not so useful.
I think I much prefer my (Two) Monimoto's I have in my bike and car. No need to connect to the bikes battery and be a constant power drain, and hiding is a lot easier as you aren't restricted by tracking wires back to the battery.
Well I've been experimenting with them this week given all the comments here - so far I'm not impressed - I'm sitting less than 20 meters from 3 of them and yet my phone cannot detect any of them! I put one in my kid's car too, very patchy in terms of knowing where the car actually is.....sometimes they work, more often they don't....
I never said it is an independent review - I clearly marked the video as "includes paid promotion" - I show the sizzapp logo as a sponsor at the start and end of the video and I mention they are my new sponsors in the video! As for competition I did talk about other stand alone trackers (that require key fobs, SIM card subs, etc) and heavy duty trackers (which I also use) that are much more expensive to install and use. For me, at this time Sizapp makes sense, clearly you can make your own choice!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes, you say Sizapp "makes sense", as one of your long time subscriber its difficult to take anything you may say as true and impartial when you are clearly promoting one of your channels sponsors! We heard all the pro's, but where where the cons? Can you not see that by doing this any thing you say cannot be taken as "best advice!" Why are you doing this channel, to help fellow motorcyclists or simply to make money and promote your sponsors? Maybe, it is my problem that in the past I valued your views more than I should have!
Happy new year Andy. I'm a great believe in multi-layered security.....As you obviously have..ie:- garage security..My Triumph has a front wheel choke as well as paddock stand with chain. This Tracking unit looks a useful addition, although I'm bound to say it looks harder to hide plus the extra wiring is a bit of a give away...l prefer the independent powered types. In the past I've used Invoxia which is very small. The app has a proximity 'radar' useful when within a few metres the of 'Bike'.. handy if the thief has the bike in a lock-up...These very small units can be used for many applications beside a Motorcycle. l presently use a German PAJ system, very accurate tracking route/stop/parked, is easier to hide. However, it does have a subscription which is, for my unit about 50 € annually...
Seems like a great device for those who want a tracker. Personally, if some scumbag steals, ragdolls and rallies my bike then the last thing I want to see again is that bike. On another point, how's the modular helmet fairing? Best wishes for '23.
Hi Andy . Can you connect this to a ignition source I’m not a fan of having gps Permanent live .? . At the moment I use biketrac £10 month which I think is not a lot of money to cover my 28k trike . Thanks again Andy 🇬🇧👍
May try one of these, as cheaper than the alternative, I know probably not as good but with my lower cost bike it's peace of mind 😜 what's everyone think ❤️ great review, we could do with a discount code Mr Mf
The question is... Will it drain the battery if you don't start it for some time? I currently have the monimoto 7 which is absolutely independent. Yes,there is a tiny £37 subscription but is also only £129. Also works well . Ideally you want to hide this on the non removable panels of the bike,no way that they will find it until you found them .
Yes it does drain a small amount - way less than my more industrial grade trackers though and it gives you plenty of warning before your battery gets too low....I find it less of a hassle than the batteries in my Monimotos/keyfobs (+ the subs - particularly tiresone if you have more than one!)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer If it does notify you when you're battery getting empty that should be enough... The network could be a concern as well. You mentioned it's only 4G if not mistaken
I had a tracker fitted when I bought my bike brand new, I do have issues with the tracker. 1, It does seem to draw more out of your battery than normal. My battery is having to be charged a lot more than you would expect. 2, They have my bike located at a different address, I contacted them about this and they said they use Google maps so it's an estimate, this doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm thinking of having an alarm fitted instead..
My T100 was stolen a few months ago and I was able to see where they parked it with the SizzApp The thieves found the keys in my jacket near the bike in an underground garage at work where I kept it in the bicycle room Yes stupid of me I know. Insurance Company even refunded my deductible because I had the tracker and could find the bike so pretty good all in all. They paid for new locks and a new brake peg
Great video, thanks for sharing. If the unthinkable happened and your bike was stolen, is there a simple way of sharing the information with the police via the app? Also is there any functions linked to breakdown location sharing etc?
The police will only do something if someone is killed / injured. You will get a crime number & that’s it. The days of the police dealing with theft is long gone.
It’s an interesting product although the direct connection to the battery is a bit obvious. I’m a bit cautious around the business model and long term support without any apparent income stream (subscription) once Sizzapp have sold a unit and yet there must be costs around 4G access, app updates etc.
I like the "fit and forget" nature of it. Only downside is potential for battery drainage but that seems minimal so far - compared to my "heavy duty" trackers - and it alerts me well before low battery is an issue - you can of course hide the tracker (this was only a demo of how to fit).....fair point on business model!
Thank you for taking time as always really enjoyable videos. Sadly I think this devices is weak Even a simple bike thief could lift a seat disconnect the battery
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank you for taking time to reply I agree with you it’s cheap but if taken away somewhere all you will see is the local area it’s removed from the once loved bike. Motorcycle thieves are not stupid.
The software looks pretty good, but reality is it is much too large to conceal and according to installation instructions it has the be flat as you have it for it to work properly. Surely with todays technology they can make it much smaller.
Yes - I found having to constantly replace the batteries in the monimoto plus fob a pain, as was carrying the fob as was renewing the SIM card. Not so bad if you only have one bike and one Monimoto, but a pain with several. The Monimoto will suit some more than the Sizzapp, but for me the "fit and forget" nature of the Sizzapp outweigh any disadvanteges...
Yes, me too. I only have one bike and I find the battery changing an issue especially when you've hidden the unit well in the first place and then having to dig it out to change the batteries
Well it does draw a small amount and the good news is Sizapp alerts you if the battery gets too low - it's done that once since I've had it fitted (had it about 2 months now) so I got prompted to connect up the trickle charger. Doesn't seem as power hungry as the datatool and vodaphone trackers I have fitted on my other bikes (I suspect it's becuase they periodically check in with the phone network) - they flatten the battery in a matter of days. So far so good..but I am watching as that's the one downside of a powered tracker like this.....
Nice Triumph. Wish I had one on my Triumph, It was recovered but trashed an written off. I'm sure police have a pretty good idea who stole. Probably a good thing I don't. I'm not feeling very forgiving yet.
I think the idea is that you do not leave it in full view under your seat. Any tracker is supposed to be hidden so the thief does not know there is a tracker on the bike! Otherwise they will just rip it out and fling it into the nearest river!
If they did it would tell you they had! The video was just for demonstration purposes, clearly there are ways of hiding/disguising that I didn’t go into for obvious reasons…
@TheMissendenFlyer My Insurance only covers my bike if it is in the locked garage or out away from home. If the bike is outside my house and stolen within 500 metres it is not covered. Are yours? 🤔
Nice vid of an interesting product. However I have 2 concerns, firstly for your own benefit I think you showed too much in terms where you put it on which bike etc. It's was very helpful for us viewers but also for the scumbags. Secondly, which you will no doubt tell us in due course, how much does it drain the battery? I guess it also has a limited time effect to track it once stolen for any competent thief as most will check for trackers wired in to the battery pretty quick if it's been stolen for more than a joy ride. However with all that said, it is undoubtedly another very decent & cost effective layer of security.
Correct - I found having to manage two batteries, an annual subscription and a seperate fob too much of a faff on several bikes - this with it's "fit and forget" nature works better for me. Monimoto is good if you only have the one bike....
I'm stuck with the thought of do I want the bike back. Firstly it's unlikely to be unblemished and secondly if you call it in and get it recovered it will be tagged with stolen/recovered and impact resale. Maybe this cheap solution is a half way house and good compromise.
Might be useful for a car (can be easier to hide) assuming the signal goes through the bodywork, especially the low battery warning, can the alert levels be changed on this feature? TIA 🤔
I can't tell you here but there's a simple way around these trackers to confuse them. Sure it's another layer of security for those that take comfort from that. Besides all that I'm a private person and I don't like the idea of every journey I make being tracked by someone. But hey each to their own
Good bit of kit Andy. I would wire it up differently, not directly to the battery. Also hide the unit away. Easy to rip it out if you can see it all once the seat is off. Hide it all!
Indeed - for obvious reasons I didn't go into disguising strategy and location in more detail! By the way if it is ripped out it alerts you about it (it has built in power too)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the great things you cover. Looking forward to 2023. I live in Germany, maybe we'll see you out here some time.
I’ve bought quite a lot of stuff based upon your recommendations or reviews and I’ve never gone wrong yet!!! This looks an ace bit of kit👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for that - I think it's a great product otherwise I wouldn't be effectively advertising it here, its the fit and forget nature of it I particularly like....
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Thanks as usual for your honesty, the costs of your Garage Queen must have really added up over the years ! I know she’s beautiful ! The Sizzapp is definitely something I’m considering.
Sizzapp approached me to review this, but I declined. The wires will lead any thief straight to the tracker🤔
That’s what I was thinking RM
Or the manhoosive unit with Sizzapp printed on it.
And the fact that if any thief didn’t know what it looked like and where people might install it, thanks to this vid they do now! 😂
Fair enough! I like the fact I can fit it and at all times know where the bike is (including where I parked it!) for no ongoing cost - “fit and forget” is the appeal to me…I accept no solution is 100% perfect. Most pro-criminals I understand first move a bike a short distance to see if a tracker is fitted before actually hustling the bike away to a lock up - so in that scenario the sizzapp works a treat.
Agreed, its virtually pointless as a security device.
I love them, I've had it for 15 months now and moved it from my old bike to my new one. the software has got better after an upgrade, in that there are extra features. Never had an issue with it and get a message within a minute of moving my bike. Well worth the money as it's a one off payment you do save over time. I have the other smaller version, the 2G-2 wire not the 4G-2 wire and it works fine, not sure how long 2G is with us for. I've never had an issue with my battery either and pleased it's always getting power. Well worth it
Great feedback - thanks Dale!
Hi Dale, we are happy you like your SIZZAPP device!
Thanks for posting. Sounds like a great product. One piece of advice, you should always connect the positive terminal to the battery first and then the negative. When disconnecting you should take the negative off first then the positive. Otherwise, you risk shorting the battery (and many of the bike's electronics) and take it from the voice of experience, you don't want to do that. :)
I was having heart failure as you DIDN'T disconnect the Earth when you did the install, Nearly had a "How not to Install" vid on your hands. I was waiting for the sparks if you touched the frame with that screwdriver.
Been there done that!!!
To be fair to Andy he can do that safely, due to the angles the battery is at, and the open eye connecters on tracker it's just a matter of 1/4 turn and slide connecter in. But yes normally you would always disconnect the negative first think he would have done it correctly if set up was different.
@Jay Harrod Have you been on ice for last 58 years, that's the last positive earth vehicle I recall.
I prefer the Monimoto because it doesn't connect to the bike battery so it's genuinely possible to conceal it.
Yep - I agree. First thing a thief does is to check for additional wires to the battery. With a Monimoto tracker, it can go anywhere on your bike and is independent. The batteries last at least 1 year, so not a big deal. I also like that it links to Google maps if the bike moves, so it is really easy to get directions to where the bike is....
I fully agree and over the past 12 months had absolutely no issues with mine
Prefer not to have to connect to the bikes power be it via the battery or the loom. Monimoto all the way for me.
@@KLRJUNE That's good to know thanks. I still think the Monimoto is a more elegant and better solution. The price difference is enough for 3 years Monimoto subscription.
Monimoto is a dodgy company i have their latest and they disabled it after a couple of months and demanded an additional £36 . No explanation either you pay or they disable the tracker, pisstakers 😤
If you connect anything directly to the battery, please use a FUSE. If you don't it's a fire hazard.
What a great, simple and inexpensive tracker. Interested to see how it is in 12 months time. They could be onto a winner here. An updated video later, when you get used to the app and it's functions would be a good idea, which I'm sure you already have penciled in. Just a case of finding a day free in your diary haha.
"free in your diary haha.". Was going to tell you off for misspelling "diarrhoea".
Easy to fit love the app...the battery indicator is brilliant specially when it's being stored in a garage over the winter..
Thats a great pocket friendly tracker Andy. However, it defeats the object if its easily found. Personally i would try to locate the unit under the tank or behind a side panel at the very least, & make the connection to the battery look factory & tape the wires to the factory harness to disguise them. Otherwise, looks great to me 👍
Yep good tip! Incidentally if it is just pulled out it alerts you of that too (it has 3 hours worth of inbuit power source)
@ Rich Helm
Agreed. Thieving scrotes can simply snip two wires and throw the unit in a ditch/hedge/down a drain and within mere seconds it's effectiveness is completely null and void. Unless it is so well hidden/disguised and made as tamper proof as possible on the bike then the whole point of it as a tracker is moot.
Sounds like a great product. I would like to have several except I have no confidence in our law enforcement to do anything with the information provided to recover the motorcycle. I've had two motorcycles stolen in August with six surveillance cameras recording the theft and all that they would do is take a police report over the telephone.
I had the feeling that I could given them the name and addressed of the thieves and where the bikes were and no effort would have been made to recover the motorcycles.
I knew I was in trouble as soon as they asked if the bikes were insured and if anybody was injured. However, if we did have a functioning police department for nonviolent crime I would have some trackers.
Well that is a good point - and I thought it was just over hear that the police didn’t react to that sort of thing. Sorry to hear about your bikes….
@@TheMissendenFlyer 👍
I like the idea of not needed to purchase another subscription for something. I'm going to look into this.
Me too - major selling point for me....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I just ordered one.
looks pretty good Andy, id be inclined to install it behind one of those side covers, take the thieves a little longer to find and disconnect that way ;)
Yes fair point…
That’s the first place a thief is going to check.
Thought you were a monimoto fan?marvellous how a freebie changes people’s minds.
I've used both, didn't pay for either of them, and I prefer this - which is why I swapped, I like the "fit and forget" nature of it - no fob to carry around seperate to your keys, no SIM subscription...just easier to manage. Only downside is potential for battery drainage but that seems minimal so far - compared to my "heavy duty" trackers - and it alerts me well before low battery is an issue - you can of course hide the tracker (this was only a demo of how to fit).....I can assure you there's no such thing as a "freebie"!!
I've used trackers for years - the £30 battery-powered ones you get on AliExpress (TK-905 to be exact). I've recovered two motorbikes using them. Total cost was £30 plus £10 sim that lasted for years. However the main problem I had was their size and having to charge the battery every month. I've recently switched to Samsung SmartTags which are like Apple AirTags but they work better because you can see a tracking history and see the movement of them, plus the range is more like 100m rather than 10-20m. I've tested them loads and they are really accurate and get pinged everywhere - obviously cities are better because they don't use GPS but rather, other SmartTags and Samsung phones. Great thing is they are tiny, cheap (£20 each) and the battery lasts about a year. It means I can hide two of them in each bike for redundancy. Definitely recommend them if - only catch is you need a samsung S21 or S22.
Also, as others have mentioned, I steered clear of trackers that use the bike's own battery because if you connect straight to the terminals it's really obvious and the first place thieves will look, and if you connect elsewhere in the loom, it's also possible to find but it's also a pain to install. Benefit of the SmartTags is you can be really sneaky with where you hide them!
Yes several have mentioned them - the more security the better! Persoanlly tags wouldn't work for me as I'm often riding in the countryside with no phones or tablets (or tags!) nearby....
Looks a good piece of kit TMF, easy to fit and bonus journey data also. Thanks for sharing 👍
My pleasure!
Battery terminals are the first place a thief will look for a tracker, it's too easy to find and un hook.
That’s exactly what I was thinking, I just don’t get it.
You get an alert soon as the bike is moved, so that gives you time to take action and it also alerts if power is cut, it has a 3 hour backup power, granted if it's taken out before you take action the bike is gone, however I would rather have it than not 👍
Would it be possible to hard wire it in somewhere else on the bike so it would be totally hidden?
@@grahamcunliffe9352 I think it would be okay if you did do that as long as it's drawing the same power, however I can't guarantee it, worth looking into, I'll ask Sizzap HQ 👍
@@grahamcunliffe9352 I have been informed that it can be done Graham, I'm in the Sizzap pro testing group, I have also been told that you can lengthen the wires, it will also not affect the warranty, hope this helps you 👍
Worth having - I just brought a similar tracker off Amazon more generic type that you charge via USB (or you can connect to bike battery) and battery last about a month between recharge and just uses a roaming SIM card that can use roam across many networks, globally. Works on both 4G and 2G, the key benefit for me is the ability to send SMS as soon as bike or moved, vibration alarm. So even if thief finds and removes tracker you know bike has moved quickly, you can then also use other apps such as IFTTT to do other things. What has been useful for is when I have done a good route I can use it to review the route and record it somewhere for future reference. More peace of mind I think that a real deterrent to thieves but often bikes are stolen and hidden to see if they have a tracker.
I have received this I have tried it a few times and it works great ..this review helped..plus the discount link ..thank you
My pleasure 😊
As someone who had to deal with the scum that nicked bikes in my previous life I support anything that helps in the prevention of crime. Despite the low cost I'm not sure this is a good product. Clearly, if your bike was stolen the thief would look under the seat. They will be aware that Sizzapps are on the market and with one swift pull it's disconnected and will no doubt be at the bottom of a river very quickly. MoniMoto a much better option IMO - can be hidden. No wires and very cheap subs of £36.00 a year - got to be a better option surely? Good to see the Triumph out and about.👍
Yes I used to use Monimoto but found (as I had multiple units) having to keep renewing the batteries and get the sims topped up became tiresome over time as did having to carry the fob separately to the keys. Seems there’s no perfect solution but I find the Sizzapp works better for me as a “fit and forget” solution…
I got one of these just before Christmas and they are highly recommended the support i got between Christmas and new year was excellect as like yours Andy it was offline but all good now as they expalined I needed to go out for first ride sometime to get it to kick off
International Mobile Equipment Identity I think. It is a unique identity for your Sizzapp box (normally the mobile phone). The first part (8 characters I think identifies the device type)
Be aware people that mobile networks are planning to retire 2 and 3g networks as they need to reuse the frequencies for 4/5g.
One last tip, the ground on the battery should be disconnected first and reconnected last so don't do what Andy did 🙂. The rational is that if you short the +ve battery terminal to the frame you will get some pyrotechnics. People wearing a ring be particularly careful
Thabjks for that - I can never remember which way round to connect/disconnect - having learned the hard way in the past I am always very careful not to create a short though....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Just think that the -ve is connected to the frame. If that is disconnected then connecting the +ve to the frame with a spanner, screwdriver or your wedding ring for an instant won't matter. Nobody wants an exploding ring do they?
'Insulating your tool' is also good advice!
Good review TMF and a neat idea.
Thanks!
Good morning Sir.. Just a quick holiday trick.. I was worried about my steed when on a touring holiday. I looked at trackers and realised that they were out of my budget. So I bought a second hand phone android and hid it in the panels. Then every time I went to do the tourist stuff l merely linked it to my main phone by what three words. Of course this means that there ware no, Your Steed is moving warnings. BUT at least when I used parking spots in unfamiliar cities and wondered about there was an easy find your steed map to follow. Of course if you check it and find the steed is way away from your parking spot you have to give your main phone to the police to use as a tracker.. 🤙🤙🤙
Bike sounds great on the Go-Pro. Wow great sound.
It does!
I have one of these on both my bikes and they are easy to install and setup. With some thought before installing you can hide them and you don’t need to use the battery terminals if they are easily seen but this means it is not quite as simple as you showed. It does drain the battery slightly but I have a trickle charger and don’t worry about it. The app has good features and the positioning is accurate. I like that it doesn’t need a subscription but it is only as secure if you hide it.
Yes this was a quick demo - I won't go into any more details about locating my devices!
Indeed - people in the comments don’t always realise that 😉
Nice one FLYER, I like it. Happy New Year
Happy new year!
To check out its working you could always get someone to nick it. 😉👍. Also I’d plug it into a auxiliary connection so it’s not connected directly to the battery (fused), and a sneaky thief would take a while to find it!
I guess there are a number of pros and cons to one of these devices, and let's be fair about it, if a professional bike thief wants your bike,it's going to go. I would spend a little more time trying to locate it somewhere a little more tricky for a thief to find, but that's bike dependant. For £220 one-off payment with no monthly subscription fee, I think it's definitely worth a punt. One more layer of security can't hurt anyone this day and age!! You have a more chance of getting your pride and joy back with one fitted than without 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Agreed 100% Matt.....
I bought the Monimoto Tracker four years ago after watching TMF’s review. Works perfectly and the annual cost is very low. Not sure about Sizzapp 🤔
Yep, I think I much prefer my (Two) Monimoto's I have in my bike and car. No need to connect to the bikes battery and be a constant power drain, and hiding is a lot easier as you aren't restricted by tracking wires back to the battery.
Do you have to pay for the sim card with the moni moto ?
@Chris Hart no, just a very low yearly subscription to keep the sim card active
I use monimoto too, but it seems every year I have to change the units battery. With hiding it well on the bike, it's a pain to keep taking it out. Seriously considering this Sizzapp
Morning Andy, is Corona one of your new sponsors? Only I saw their logo prominently displayed in your garage😁
Seems to be useful and hassle free. Happy new year!
Seems a decent unit for the one off price. I will go have a nosey on tinternet and read up the specs now.
Lots of talk about how this can be easily found. This is true. And yea the app will tell you when it’s been disconnected but that doesn’t really matter to you the user once that happens.
What I did was take apart a good portion of the bike, breaking down to heavy wire loom. Used a shop manual to find a positive and negative line and installed this tracker that way. I then wrapped it in automotive wire tape. It’s 100 percent hidden and even if a garbage thief gets it down to where it’s at, they have to know what they’re looking for. I have it looking like it’s all stock. I recommend y’all do it that way.
Good tip!
I keep thinking about getting a tracker and that is quite appealing...
Works for me! I’ve also now tried the Apple AirTags…..my advice, don’t bother!!!
Nice one Andy it’s a cost thing having 4 bikes apple air tags cheaper and no hiding problems
I just bought some to try - so far not impressed (I'm sitting less than 20 metres from two of them yet my phone can't find them!) - good in some applications but not if you live in the countryside with few passing apple devices.
When 'reconnecting' battery terminals/leads, always connect positive first then negative last.
Seems a decent device and hiding it better and the wiring would make it a really good device . Be good on the car also. But don't be letting the Mrs have the app 😮😮😮 😁👍
Yes to no recurring charges!
LIKES:
Price
No annual fee
4G
DISLIKES:
Size
Needs bikes power
Speed monitoring
Monimoto still a win in this catogory for me.
Thanks for the info on the device though. Ride safe.
Fair enough....
Apple Air Tags seem much simpler and cheaper to use, and won’t drain your battery. And also easier to hide on your bike too.
Yes but they rely on a thief having an iPhone, iPad or Mac
@@sergentcolon1 or someone who is passing with an iPhone which highly likely.
@@thornscoop2 a lot of thieves stick bikes in shipping containers so no signal can get out though.
@@sergentcolon1 That would also stop any other tracking system working too.
Apple tag is useless if there is no one around with an apple product, especially out in the country side
Great review Andy but similar function to my TruTrak FMT100. That cost me about £30 with a £6 monthly charge. One bonus was that mine gave me a great overview of the route I took on my 5500 mile trip round Europe. The only problem I had was a couple of slight blind spots in Bosnia Herzegovina but I suspect dueto its reliance on the 4G connectivity that the Sizzapp will be the same.
That £6/month adds up - Sizzapp is FOC once purchased, that’s the appeal to me “fit and forget”….
@@TheMissendenFlyer agree 100%. The advantage I've found is there being no need to shell out such a large upfront fee (albeit small compared to many). The other advantage being that by paying monthly but with no standing contract, I've no need to pay when it's locked all secure in the garage over winter, simply reactivate it when it's in a higher theft use situation. Horses for courses. Keep up the reviews.
I have trackers on my bikes, prefer ones that don’t wire direct to the battery for reasons, most thief’s will lift the seat and cut any wiring to the battery other than the main 2 leads. While I do see a benefit with devices like these is the battery monitoring via phone app but the main one could be use this as a bluff for the thief to cut if stolen and have another battery tracker onboard like Monimoto, that way the thief thinks they have disabled but hey Ho you have it still tracked. Not trackers are not cheap so to have 2 on each of your bikes is an expensive thing. Maybe I need to come up with a dummy box with wires coming out to the battery 🤔😆
Hello great material very nice filmed ;)
Thank you very much!
Hmmm interesting, I’ve got a thunderbox on my Africa twin I assume it could be wired into that rather than straight to battery?
Yes, you can connect a device in another place where there are both a negative and +12V wires and hide a device. A lot of our customer are doing like that.
The main things are that power should remain constant on these wires, even when ignition is turned off, and that device should be located (hidden) in such place to have enough satellites for a correct location and speed detection.
Of course...
Cheers guys
I put an Apple AirTag on my bikes. £29 and you can find me app to find the AirTag. Got one on my dog too!😀 . Only the side of a 10p piece and it lets you know if the battery is failing. Lasted a year so far . Just a thought. Love your channel. Best there is along with Fortnine.
Thank you very much! Trouble with airtags is they rely on beinbg near an Apple prodict to work - OK in town, maybe not in the country. That said I have just ordered one to see how it works and to compare....
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah you may be right but it’s better then nothing and very easy to conceal on the bike. Lots of IPhones even in the country. By the way, they are not recognised by insurance companies as a tracker. Cheers. Keep up the good work.😀
Yes I'm curious to try one when mine arrives - and for what it's worth I've never had a discount from an insurance company for any tracker I have.....so who cares if they recognise it as one! (unless it's T&Cs stipulation of course) - like those trackers on my cars are (ie no tracker no insurance)
Awesome video. Different and much appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Its a bit on the largish Betty size 😄Otherwise it might work inside the headlight fixture, room permitting and providing the casing is not all metal.
Mark Davies.
Looks good but what happens when the potential thief disconnects your battery?
what power does it use and how much does it drain your battery.
Dan gaat die nog een paar uur door met de backup batterij
If it gets disconnected internal power kicks in and it alerts you it has been disconnected. Doesn't drain the battery as much as the other trackers I have, I think it draws up to 100mA a day - alerts you before the battery gets too low so you know to plug the charger in (takes about a week or so in my experience).....
Always thought it a disadvantage having an FZ6 with the battery located under the tank, seems not!
What's the special bar you used across the garage door, feel like need one? 😁👍
It's my Guardsman from Image4Security.....
10:00 flips up internal sun visor to reveal more sunglasses 😄
I backed the kickstarter edition, and I’m very happy I did! Mine will work only until 3G antennas will still be around, but so far I’ve moved it from bike to bike without a problem.
The only downside is, imho, the mobile app. I started developing my own for iOS, would anyone be interested?
Wow - clever fella!
we are now developing new SIZZAPP Pro app which will be available pretty soon :)
The Moni looks better as small to hide and cheaper.
Yes but you have the inconvenience of carrying the key fob seperate to your keys, the hassle of two batteries to change and the ongoing cost of the SIM subscription - I used moni for a couple of years, but for me, this is way better - just fit it and forget it...only downside is needing to ensure your batteries don't get drained (and it even warns you well before that happens...unlike my expensive trackers!).....
Moniomot 7 subscription year -£36 and the datertool tracker £250 for 3 years
Please note that you should always connect the positive cable first and then the negative 👍
Yes a few have mentioned that - thanks for the reminder, I can never remember which way round you do it...
I have a question. How does the tracker "know" its you when u go out for a ride? Sending out notifications everytime u go riding your own bike sounds terrible to me.
And as many commented already but u surely already know, Connecting streight to the battery seems like a designflaw to me. Now maybe a different always powered connector on the bike where u can hide the device.
Good question! It doesn’t send me an alert every time I ride….no idea how it works, maybe it’s proximity to my phone?? Come to think of it now I’m not sure if it does send an alert if stolen or if it just relies on you asking it where it is….I shall try and find out and report back….
Where’d you get that security pole system for your garage door?
Image4Security - see the link in the descripton below....
Nice and simple .
Thanks for the vid 👍😊
My pleasure!
Seriously considering purchasing, already have Datatool installed with yearly subscription and an Apple AirTag hidden away, but there’s always room for more, especially as it’s a one off purchase with no on-going cost. My thinking is if thieves bypass one of them, there’s two more as backup.
@Andy, has sizzapp offered any of your subscribers with discount codes we can use?
YES! Sizzapp are kindly offerring a 10% discount if you use the code "TMFTRACK" at checkout!
Apple AirTags - three tags for £99. I have a Monimoto on my new GS - which I’ve owned for years (thank you TMF), but the other two (and my e-bike) are covered with Air Tags. No Alarm as such, but you always know where the tags are via the app on your iPhone, and they’re easy to hide, being not much bigger than a 50p.
Trouble is, as I understand it, they need to be near Apple phone or tablet in order to report their position - might work well in populated ares (I dunno, does it??) but in the wilds of Scotland on a tour I'm not so sure. That said as many layers of security as you can are good, so the more the better.....
Problem with airtags - it send message to nearest iPhone so if it’s stolen and thief has an iPhone then he gets a message 🤔
@@MOTOUK1 more than that, it’ll notify the thief they are being tracked. It’s intended to stop stalking.
Freddie Dobbs has been using this device for some time now. Personally in my opinion a tracker on a bike is worthless. They are so easy to find and in less than 10 seconds you can usually locate and disconect them.
In contrast the Apple Airtags are very discreet, hard to find, cheaper than this and therefore represent better value for money. 👍
I don’t know much about the AirTags, am I right in thinking they have to be near a Bluetooth or Wi-Fi connection to work? If so I’m not sure I’d rely on them as much as a gps/phone based tracker?
AirTags have to be picked up via Bluetooth when someone with an Apple phone is nearby. Probably fine in a busy urban environment, but if it’s left in a field somewhere in the middle of nowhere, not so useful.
@@PhilC184 That scenario isn’t very likely is it, even if it was, firstly it has to get to the field.
I have a monimoto but I need an extra tracker for my other bike, looks very promising so will take a serious look.
we will be happy to see you among our happy customers 😀
I think I much prefer my (Two) Monimoto's I have in my bike and car. No need to connect to the bikes battery and be a constant power drain, and hiding is a lot easier as you aren't restricted by tracking wires back to the battery.
I use the Monimoto on my bike and car. Would be good to see a comparison between the Sizzapp & Monimoto.
Thoughts on hiding an apple airtag on your bike as a basic tracker
Well I've been experimenting with them this week given all the comments here - so far I'm not impressed - I'm sitting less than 20 meters from 3 of them and yet my phone cannot detect any of them! I put one in my kid's car too, very patchy in terms of knowing where the car actually is.....sometimes they work, more often they don't....
While you were out riding, did someone pinch some of your other bikes? Your garage looks less crowded than normal…
Independent review? Sizzapp is one of your sponsors! What about the competitors?
I never said it is an independent review - I clearly marked the video as "includes paid promotion" - I show the sizzapp logo as a sponsor at the start and end of the video and I mention they are my new sponsors in the video! As for competition I did talk about other stand alone trackers (that require key fobs, SIM card subs, etc) and heavy duty trackers (which I also use) that are much more expensive to install and use. For me, at this time Sizapp makes sense, clearly you can make your own choice!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes, you say Sizapp "makes sense", as one of your long time subscriber its difficult to take anything you may say as true and impartial when you are clearly promoting one of your channels sponsors! We heard all the pro's, but where where the cons? Can you not see that by doing this any thing you say cannot be taken as "best advice!" Why are you doing this channel, to help fellow motorcyclists or simply to make money and promote your sponsors? Maybe, it is my problem that in the past I valued your views more than I should have!
Happy new year Andy. I'm a great believe in multi-layered security.....As you obviously have..ie:- garage security..My Triumph has a front wheel choke as well as paddock stand with chain. This Tracking unit looks a useful addition, although I'm bound to say it looks harder to hide plus the extra wiring is a bit of a give away...l prefer the independent powered types. In the past I've used Invoxia which is very small. The app has a proximity 'radar' useful when within a few metres the of 'Bike'.. handy if the thief has the bike in a lock-up...These very small units can be used for many applications beside a Motorcycle. l presently use a German PAJ system, very accurate tracking route/stop/parked, is easier to hide. However, it does have a subscription which is, for my unit about 50 € annually...
What happens if only have 3G or no signal for a long period of time ?
Good question!
Seems like a great device for those who want a tracker. Personally, if some scumbag steals, ragdolls and rallies my bike then the last thing I want to see again is that bike. On another point, how's the modular helmet fairing? Best wishes for '23.
Hi Andy . Can you connect this to a ignition source I’m not a fan of having gps Permanent live .? . At the moment I use biketrac £10 month which I think is not a lot of money to cover my 28k trike . Thanks again Andy 🇬🇧👍
Very good
May try one of these, as cheaper than the alternative, I know probably not as good but with my lower cost bike it's peace of mind 😜 what's everyone think ❤️ great review, we could do with a discount code Mr Mf
There is one - 10% off with "TMFTRACK" - (said it in the pinned comment and it's in the description btw...).
The question is... Will it drain the battery if you don't start it for some time? I currently have the monimoto 7 which is absolutely independent. Yes,there is a tiny £37 subscription but is also only £129. Also works well . Ideally you want to hide this on the non removable panels of the bike,no way that they will find it until you found them .
Yes it does drain a small amount - way less than my more industrial grade trackers though and it gives you plenty of warning before your battery gets too low....I find it less of a hassle than the batteries in my Monimotos/keyfobs (+ the subs - particularly tiresone if you have more than one!)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer If it does notify you when you're battery getting empty that should be enough... The network could be a concern as well. You mentioned it's only 4G if not mistaken
I had a tracker fitted when I bought my bike brand new, I do have issues with the tracker.
1, It does seem to draw more out of your battery than normal. My battery is having to be charged a lot more than you would expect.
2, They have my bike located at a different address, I contacted them about this and they said they use Google maps so it's an estimate, this doesn't fill me with confidence.
I'm thinking of having an alarm fitted instead..
Sounds fair enough in that case!
My T100 was stolen a few months ago and I was able to see where they parked it with the SizzApp The thieves found the keys in my jacket near the bike in an underground garage at work where I kept it in the bicycle room Yes stupid of me I know. Insurance Company even refunded my deductible because I had the tracker and could find the bike so pretty good all in all. They paid for new locks and a new brake peg
Cool!
@@TheMissendenFlyer The “downside” is I could see the joy ride they took around Stockholm during the night
If you change bikes can you reuse it with the next bike? Great vid as always👍
Sure can!
Great video, thanks for sharing. If the unthinkable happened and your bike was stolen, is there a simple way of sharing the information with the police via the app?
Also is there any functions linked to breakdown location sharing etc?
I don't think so...
The police will only do something if someone is killed / injured. You will get a crime number & that’s it. The days of the police dealing with theft is long gone.
It’s an interesting product although the direct connection to the battery is a bit obvious. I’m a bit cautious around the business model and long term support without any apparent income stream (subscription) once Sizzapp have sold a unit and yet there must be costs around 4G access, app updates etc.
I like the "fit and forget" nature of it. Only downside is potential for battery drainage but that seems minimal so far - compared to my "heavy duty" trackers - and it alerts me well before low battery is an issue - you can of course hide the tracker (this was only a demo of how to fit).....fair point on business model!
Thank you for taking time as always really enjoyable videos.
Sadly I think this devices is weak Even a simple bike thief could lift a seat disconnect the battery
It alerts you if that happens....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank you for taking time to reply I agree with you it’s cheap but if taken away somewhere all you will see is the local area it’s removed from the once loved bike. Motorcycle thieves are not stupid.
The software looks pretty good, but reality is it is much too large to conceal and according to installation instructions it has the be flat as you have it for it to work properly. Surely with todays technology they can make it much smaller.
When you reviewed the Monimoto being battery powered was a good thing, have you changed your mind?
Yes - I found having to constantly replace the batteries in the monimoto plus fob a pain, as was carrying the fob as was renewing the SIM card. Not so bad if you only have one bike and one Monimoto, but a pain with several. The Monimoto will suit some more than the Sizzapp, but for me the "fit and forget" nature of the Sizzapp outweigh any disadvanteges...
@@TheMissendenFlyer ahh I understand it must be a pain with a few bikes, I get it. Thanks for your reply!
Yes, me too. I only have one bike and I find the battery changing an issue especially when you've hidden the unit well in the first place and then having to dig it out to change the batteries
Brilliant tmf just what I wanted how about battery drawing ? Thanks from Danny
Well it does draw a small amount and the good news is Sizapp alerts you if the battery gets too low - it's done that once since I've had it fitted (had it about 2 months now) so I got prompted to connect up the trickle charger. Doesn't seem as power hungry as the datatool and vodaphone trackers I have fitted on my other bikes (I suspect it's becuase they periodically check in with the phone network) - they flatten the battery in a matter of days. So far so good..but I am watching as that's the one downside of a powered tracker like this.....
Nice Triumph. Wish I had one on my Triumph, It was recovered but trashed an written off. I'm sure police have a pretty good idea who stole. Probably a good thing I don't. I'm not feeling very forgiving yet.
Oh dear, sorry to hear that John....
You forgot to add that there may be customs charges on this device
Andy have you got a dater tool tracker on you new bike is that Monimoto 7 tracker better than the sizzapp pro
I do t know - I’ve not used the Monimoto 7 yet
Where are all your other bikes Andy? Hope they haven’t been nicked! Happy New Year, by the way.
Outside to make way for filming in the garage....
I think the idea is that you do not leave it in full view under your seat. Any tracker is supposed to be hidden so the thief does not know there is a tracker on the bike! Otherwise they will just rip it out and fling it into the nearest river!
If they did it would tell you they had! The video was just for demonstration purposes, clearly there are ways of hiding/disguising that I didn’t go into for obvious reasons…
I'm interested to know where all your bikes are too. Where have they all gone?
On the driveway so I had room to film.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Phew! Thought you'd had a clear out. 😂
@TheMissendenFlyer
My Insurance only covers my bike if it is in the locked garage or out away from home.
If the bike is outside my house and stolen within 500 metres it is not covered.
Are yours? 🤔
Nice vid of an interesting product. However I have 2 concerns, firstly for your own benefit I think you showed too much in terms where you put it on which bike etc. It's was very helpful for us viewers but also for the scumbags. Secondly, which you will no doubt tell us in due course, how much does it drain the battery? I guess it also has a limited time effect to track it once stolen for any competent thief as most will check for trackers wired in to the battery pretty quick if it's been stolen for more than a joy ride. However with all that said, it is undoubtedly another very decent & cost effective layer of security.
I do have an optimate battery charge lead fitted to the Street Twin and will be keeping an eye on battery drain - so far so good.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Ah good stuff. Thanks for the update.
@themissendenflyer - does this mean you are no longer a fan of or using the Monimoto devices?
Correct - I found having to manage two batteries, an annual subscription and a seperate fob too much of a faff on several bikes - this with it's "fit and forget" nature works better for me. Monimoto is good if you only have the one bike....
@@TheMissendenFlyer that makes sense. Also for those that cannot put the bike on a battery tender the monimoto suits best so the battery doesn't drain
I'm stuck with the thought of do I want the bike back. Firstly it's unlikely to be unblemished and secondly if you call it in and get it recovered it will be tagged with stolen/recovered and impact resale. Maybe this cheap solution is a half way house and good compromise.
Because it doesnt have a 'fob' How does it know the difference between authorised and Non Authorised movement of the bike.. For sending notifications?
I've no idea but it works! I suspect your phone doubles up as a BT "fob" but a great question I'd be intrigued to know the answer myself...
How's the miss getting on with the bike? Or has it been to cold... 🥶
See todays video!
Nothin like a bit of 4G RF right up the clacker 😂😂
Indeed!
Might be useful for a car (can be easier to hide) assuming the signal goes through the bodywork, especially the low battery warning, can the alert levels be changed on this feature? TIA 🤔
I can't tell you here but there's a simple way around these trackers to confuse them. Sure it's another layer of security for those that take comfort from that. Besides all that I'm a private person and I don't like the idea of every journey I make being tracked by someone. But hey each to their own