Mandy Stavik: The Case No One Could Forget | Full Episode
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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So many elderly men still tearing up after all these years... they really cared.
To me, it's what America used to be like.
It really shows the character of these law enforcement men.
😭😭😭😭😭
But would they be equally upset if the female was obese and unattractive?
@@jamielehman4934 wtf kind of question is that?
I don't think I've ever seen a case where a victim was so completely taken into the hearts of the community. Everyone in that town saw her as their daughter.
Except for the two women who didn't mention to police their experiences with the murderer for 25 years.
So why didn't the girls at the time come forward to say he was suspicious??? Great community
I remember this case when I was young, we lived 2 miles south of Acme near Highway 9. I'm glad they finally caught the person that took her life
Hmmm what a community, they could sleep well for 25 years and suddenly said they knew who could have done it, they could have left a tip anonymously for the police...
@@christinebrument6851 That was explained. This is a small, tight community. The guy and his family were well-liked and respected. In general, you don't make suspicions and allegations against others in a small town; you have to live with these people and see them everywhere. But to do that against people the whole town feels is on the level, you invite everyone to judge you, and odds are it won't be nice. They both came to individual conclusions to keep it to themselves. There's also a psychological effect when nobody shares your view, you may doubt your own suspicion just enough to say nothing. These girls snapped out of it once they shared their stories.
The detective who went to high school with her and never gave up on this case, still with tears in his eyes, must have really loved/liked her. Remarkable man! May she rip 🙏💔
Not necessarily, sometimes you just want to do the right thing and it becomes like an obsession.
@@WindDancer435 yes of course, what I meant was maybe he liked her as a class mate, friend... not in a creepy way. For an adult man to cry on cases that they are so *used to* it's a bit strange. However, he deserves all the respect.
@@iLilith11 he wasnt her classmate he just attended the same as school as her, but he probably got emotional because he might have a daughter like her or smth...
@@iLilith11 wtf, dude? 😂😂
@@WindDancer435 you're more spot on than the other fella at least
Stories like this are why my dad told me to always change up my route when I would walk to work at 16. He said you never know who may be watching you daily and knowing your schedule. He was right but at the time I thought just overdoing it. It’s crazy how people can just be so evil
I was taught that lesson as well!! U never know!
Wouldn't have mattered in this case as they clearly stated he wasn't at his house (along her regular route) but driving around in his truck when he came across her. And they weren't sure it was premeditated.
You’ve got a good father
You can still meet a creep along your various routes.
me too. one morning i was walking to my bus stop, on my way to school and always took the same route. i was being followed and it was the scariest moment of my life. you always think it’ll never happen to you but it reality, it can happen to anyone.
That sigh the father gave at 4:50 before saying “you are the first person to ask that” absolutely broke my heart… shows how much pain he is still in pain. But had to stay strong for his family.
That’s not her dad. People really lack comprehension skills…..
That was the leading detective at the time in 1989 who found her body and than came out of retirement to prosecute the case.
@@johnbrett8788no that's not him either.. the one at 04:45 is another detective who was the first to see / distract the body..
I also thought he was Mandy's father bcs the reporter mentions in his question "as a father"(not HER father though)
I think she was saying that father as in the interviewer asked him as a father did you say anything to her when you found her. I don’t think she was saying the man was her father, but a father. What made me cry was him saying that he told her “I got ya” and knowing she was safe and this man has a daughter and he’s had to see this and try to stay strong and not let his emotions get in the way of the investigation.
I thought it was her father as well at first. He was the lead detective on her search, but not the lead detective of the case. It nonetheless gave me chills hearing him say, “I got you.” It was very sincere and heart-breaking at the same time.
“No one’s ever asked me that….I said ‘I got you!’” My heart broke!
Yes, and he said Mandy reminded him of his own daughter...terrible PTSD for him I'm sure..
Brought me to tears!
Yes this was the moment my eyes welled up ...
I know, right?!
Shattering.
"I'm just an ordinary person, I don't know how I managed to have that child"....what a beautiful sentiment from an obviously amazing mother!
It's a shame that these kinds of people don't tend to have their loves for long. It really makes me sad
This made me cry
Most ordinary people tend to have most extraordinary kids
There's nothing ordinary about you, Mrs Stavik. You're a very brave woman who raised a wonderful daughter. Actually, two. Sending you love and prayers in the name of Jesus 🙏🏼💞🛐💫
Her mom seems like an amazing and strong woman
Kim Wagner, the supervisor who got the DNA, is a legend. She stayed on task for months because she was determined to do the right thing for Mandy’s family. Ms. Wagner makes me think of the famous Fred Rogers quote, to “look for the helpers” to maintain hope in a bleak situation. She is the helper who solved this case, and we should all be so fortunate to have neighbors and coworkers like her. 💕
I mean come on. It’s not hard to watch to see if someone dumps some trash.
@@justin9744not physically, but it’s mentally tedious and draining.
@@justin9744 are you kidding?? she was working and had to do constant surveillance. Her heart probably pounding in her chest every time he took a drink, and then the disappointment if he didnt dump it. She could have been caught by him retrieving it out of the trash. She went through that every day for THREE MONTHS.
@@justin9744You are quite a joke.
Perseverance and integrity needs more than hard work, she put in the determination, hardwork and the grit!
justice is not for Justin!!
@@justin9744come on, we all know you wouldn't have made this comment if a man was praised
I binge watch crime shows so I want to take a moment to applaud his brother. Generally murderers' families justify or make excuses but this man speaking up really shows his moral and integrity
😊😊😊😊😊😊
True....
Very true! Chris watts is one example. Chris lying and saying that shannan killed the Kids and his parents not liking her making it “easier” to believe he isn’t capable of such thing and not be in the hot seat.
@@juniorcarrillo4213 uhhh wrong case
@@brianbaird1503 they’re using the chris watts case as an example
I cried! Hearing that the prosecutor came out of retirement and lead the whole team for free just shows how deeply loved she was by everyone!
Hello Maria
How are you doing today?
😅
*led
Strength 😢
I'll bet he had enough money since he did not take any for this, like a more poor person would do. But nice of him to come out of retirement tho. That was nice and classy.
I’m glad his brother & his wife spoke up against him. Family members don’t usually do that. Very honorable.
Hello kris, how are you?
Agreed.
Same with Unabomber's brother...
Yep like Trayvon Martin's family.
Indeed . Most family members would defend their own . Shows a lot of character, courage and strength. Not to mention commitment to making sure he gets what he deserves. He took a life , he’s gonna pay for it.
I‘m normally not an emotional person but when it was revealed that the lead detective on the case went to highschool with her and never gave up due to that fact my heart ached. What an amazing man!
God and the prosecutor coming back from retirement and working for free too, my heart. What an overall moving case… There is something so magical about that whole community coming together and bonding over those tragic events.
Just like Dave Reichert did with Gary Ridgeway
@@jeffvanschoonhoven5171 ove heard of that case. Absolutely broke my heart.
Dude came out of retirement to prosecute this case. That’s devotion and dedication to Mandy and the entire Stavik family.
Without pay as well. Nothing says this case means the world to me like when they give their time & effort to a case without pay.
He did
Too bad he didnt bother to do his job in the first place. The house was right on her jogging path , which is where she disappeared from. They took 30 dna swabs, but didnt bother to check 1 of the few houses on the 2 mile route.
@@retaliationgaming4158 Yep. So I hear. That’s amazing.
@@retaliationgaming4158That’s so badass, he’s a real hero.
When they said the prosecutor came out of retirement and worked unpaid for this trial, I actually started crying. You can really feel how this tragedy broke the heart of this community. It was so personal for everyone.
u aint crying emotional ahh dude😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
I almost thought wouldn’t they want a fresh prosecutor instead of someone coming out of retirement? Not like you get a do-over after an acquittal
We're all so moved that you cried
Seriously??? He's getting paid retirement... Where was the fight when it happened???? Keep your tears for someone who stays on a case til they retire and beyond...
Crying for what?😂😂😂 grow up homie
The fact that everyone breaks when they speak about her tells a lot about the community relationship and values
Exactly
@Gomez G
Absolutely. It also says so much about Mandy as well. She was so very loved, and never forgotten.
Absolutely she was like everyone’s daughter. They looked to broken up to see what happened to her😢
Totally agreed!!! Very sad!
IKR. Every time, they had to look away and do the "omg, I'm not really crying, am I?" look. I felt it. The old man, then the cop dude (just started watching it, so IDK who's who, yet).
"I lived in prison with him for 28 years, & now it's his turn." Well said by Tim's ex-wife.👏👏👏
I thought her comment was self serving. It was about the dead girl....not her
She lived a living hell! 28yrs!!! Thankfully she didn’t lose her physical life but us DV survivors know she lost herself long ago. All the therapy in the world won’t take the PTSD away.
RIP Mandy
Prayers for all 🙏
@@Hope4All1968 Strong AMEN to all of that!👍❤️
@@netta96the ex wife was a victim, too.
@@netta96what would she say about dead girl? When you live in a household on survival mode for long time you only think about surviving one day at a time
It disgusts me that he tried to lie and say that she willingly had sex with him and he tried to get his brother to lie about her as well.. he took her life & her dignity and even after her death he wouldn't stop taking. He is vile.
Yup.
Look at his evil smile before the trial. His defense lawyer probably told him that he can easily get away from all those charges.
He sure thought can have “consensual” sex with teenage, does not remember her name, refuses to give dna and yet to be a free man.
I wish in such cases all people from community be obliged to give dna test. Don’t see why not?
Which is clearly a total lie. Otherwise when police mentioned it years later to him, he wouldn’t have had to struggle to remember her. Not just a high profile case but your alleged girlfriend? You don’t forget something like that.
God what an idiot that guy was
@@BeckBeckGo pp
What a heart wrenching story. I'm glad the mom was alive to see Justice for her daughter.
AMEN 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
I agree! God bless her if she is still alive, otherwise I pray they are together in heaven!
Well if those woman had spoken out before this case could have been solved a whole lot sooner even the boyfriend was questioned so them giving a name and him being alimtated from inquiries wouldn't have been a big issue they was lucky that justice was actually able to be served as he could have even passed then the mother wouldn't have got no justice for her daughter
💙🙏🙏🙏💙 GBU Amen 💙🙏🙏🙏💙
Really sad❤️
My dad has been missing since 2000. He was supposed to be coming to visit for my birthday from Dallas TX. And he never showed up and never was heard of again. We hired private investigators however the case went COLD. Everytime I watch shows like this I long for answers to what happened to my Daddy. Timothy Ray 3rd
I do hope you find out what happened to your dad hun xx
I hope you will live a life full of God 's love &, mercy! May the truth reveal to you! Love & blessings from Tirana ❤
So sorry to hear, hope you will find him❤
Oh my god.. i hope you and your family find out what happened to him. I'll be praying for you..❤❤
❤
I would really, really love to live in a community like this. A community that cares each other. It's rare.
Thank you, this psychopath does not represent our community. He's the only one ever...thank you so much for the kind words 😊
But those two ladies kept that secret for decades! Why didnt they tell police that information? Police would have gotten him back then. So, that close community is a joke.
@@KP-go4rp So close a community nobody wants to upset any1 else, s*d that!!
I agree. Still.........lock your doors. No matter where you live.
@@KP-go4rpbcz both of them thought thry are the only one and so no one will believe them. A close community is a blessing but it can also turn against you. That's why if a family member did sth wrong, whole family used to leave village in older days. It's thr same reason. You will be judged everyday. That day they just threw a word and realised they aren't the only one. I have been sexually assaulted by a former schoolmate and trust me the way it breaks you specially when the classmates take the boys side not believing and some even advising you not to accept that fact and only when you remain persistent for years, do they realise that it was true and that no girl would ruin her reputation for no reason (yes in here sex is seen as taboo, now it's more open but 10 yrs ago it was still taboo). Only when I went on Twitter, specially stan Twitter I found many like me sharing their stories and that healed half of my trauma.
As heartbreaking as this whole case is, it's a blessing that Mandy's mom is still alive to witness the animal that murdered her daughter brought to justice.
Don't you dare compare that thing to animals
Please do not compare him to animals. He is a monster.
Animals are not cruel. He’s not an animal.
He is a pathetic excuse for a human being, a monster!
@@Apudurangdinya I agree with ya
Animals do not do this decrepit act.
Fantastic how women, whom Tim disdained and despised, were the ones who solved the crime and got him put behind bars. Rest well, Mandy.
I am too, but I find it hard to believe he hasn’t committed anymore crimes since then. Almost 30 years and he got away with it. That usually makes criminals even more brazen. I don’t remember when I’ve ever seen a man so hateful toward women. He even called his boss “woman.” To go from that kind of crime to nothing ever again? I don’t know.
@@LotsofLisa I agree with you and Alex. The fact that he drove a delivery truck means he was mobile. I just wonder how many women have gone missing on his NIGHT route?!
@@joanodom2104 I know when they got his DNA they put it in the system and it would’ve matched another crime if DNA was taken. Criminals work up to the crimes like the one he committed. I just can’t wrap my mind around him doing that and just that’s it.
Lemme guess, Timmy - it’s a woman’s fault you’re locked up, too?? 🙄
Amen. 🙏🏼
I admire Tim’s Family for not lying for their brother. And I am thankful for everyone who took part to make this happen.
Exactly. That’s a stand up family for sure. I would love to meet them
The mother lied in court during sentencing
Except the mother!
yeah, this is awful, painfull, knowing your brother was behind all of this.
You forgot the mother
it’s so gross how that man went on to live a full life after he stole Mandy’s and the fact that he tried to lie and consistently claimed he was innocent 🤢I feel so angry on her behalf and it’s devastating how long it took to find him rip Mandy 🕊️💗
Well, I wouldn’t call it “a
full life” he had a failed marriage and it’s clear his ex wife hated him and resented the years spent with him and she feared him. I don’t know how the woman who got the DNA could accept to be called “woman” but that tells you a lot about the psychotic and evil personality he had. In the end what counts is that he was caught punished and jailed for the remaining years of his miserable life . Plus he definitely wasn’t expecting it after 25 years he was sure he’d got away with it.
Justice has been served for Mandy.
@@Tyler-1203well said
@Tyler-1203 he created the bad marriage and enjoyed being abusive to both his wife and his manager. He had his cake and ate it too. May prison give him full, agonizing consequences.
@@Tyler-1203 he’s still alive right it’s his full life it doesn’t matter about marriages and all of you like two field marriages really that they didn’t say perfect life no such things are perfect life but he still lived a full life I mean not and not everybody wants to get married that don’t mean they didn’t live a full life. I mean we basically the same because my mom and stepdad were never legally married that they didn’t have a full life together because they did they had a happy life and good life together, he kind of lived a full life and that’s not the point that the person is making
Disappointing that the two women didn't, at least anonymously, give law enforcement their knowledge, or suspicions, of who the killer could be. Shame on them!
Very cool how 73 y/o retired prosecutor Dave McEachran came out of retirement to prosecute this case at no charge to make sure Mandy and her family got justice.
Indeed, I feel such admiration for the gentleman.
@@joanodom2104 w to
Hes a creep
Yes there r the very rare jewels who serve because they deeply care. And those few have freed framed people by our filthy cops lawyers, da's, judges . I kiss feet of those who dev dna technology..
Very well done Mr Dave McEachran!!! What a lovely lovely man you must have been You have given her parents closure and healing!!! Your family must be so proud of you x
When your family members refuse to lie for you. .sending my love and best wishes to Mandy's family and also Tim's family members who spoke truth. Courage, it takes many forms.
Shame on his mother for lying!
There is still humanity in some humans, may God continue comforting This family.
Well said .....
Yeah respect to Tom Bass it must've been hard for him to accept that his brother is a murderer but he knew Tim was lying when Tim tried to get him to say that he also slept with Mandy. Tom knew Mandy was not a easy person that slept around and that his brother was full of crap. He accepted that unfortunately his brother is guilty and had to go against his own brother
I totally agree because in this day and age it’s Blood I’d thicker than water. I’m so proud of his brother and his wife! And everyone that stepped forward.
They left out the heartbreaking detail about her dog. After she was killed he was afraid to leave the yard. Poor guy was old and unable to protect her. This story is devastating on so many levels
Peggy, Thank you for acknowledging the poor little doggie. And the killer “threw him in the ditch”!!!! It’s despicable to treat humans and animals like that. The dog must’ve been strong enough thank God he did not break his legs because he still made it home.
Oh my goodness. That is heartbreaking!
Disgusting her and that poor doggie 😢
Darling, that absolutely breaks my heart. Thank you for pointing this out though, the poor sweetheart was too old and weak to help and that last piece of information just finished me ❤
agreed, that poor doggo 😢
You know, this is mostly a horrible story. BUT the way the community came together, the boss who watched him and watched him to get that DNA, the prosecutor who came out of retirement to work for free, the officer who was a classmate who would not give up on this case; these are truly beautiful and positive things.🙏
The Acme police dept really dropped the ball in this case. How does It take you 30 years to solve a case when the guy lived so close to her family's house? Should have been standard procedure to get DNA of everyone that lives nearby. 30 years?! Shame on them.
@@derekw1267they said they didn't question him because they thought it couldn't be from that family. Everyone knew them. Smh. How incompetent.
@@derekw1267 Because these small communities operate under the false assumption that it couldnt be anyone they know. Very common. "It must be some drifter from out of town" as if seeing your neighbor at church or the grocery store means they have to be good people. It's incredibly naive, and extremely common. Stranger on stranger crime is very rare, it's overwhelmingly likely that its your neighbor (particularly in small towns), not some shadowy drifter like in the movies. If someone ever uses any form of the phrase 'We are so safe we dont even lock our doors' just know that they are deluded in that feeling of being impervious. This killer lived down the street from you for 30 years, and you thought it was safe to leave your house wide open because 'community'.
@Heathcoatman Sure do, It couldn't happen in their town with such a quiet community. And it's got to be somebody strange and weird it couldn't be the guy. Next door and Tim, he had lived quietly a long time. I just like the 2 ladies. They had run ends with them years ago but didnt say anything.
@@derekw1267they eventually got him, Negative Nancy.
I grew up in Acme. When we moved in, there were 103 people. This case shook the whole town. Even decades later, all of my teachers, neighbors, and friends talked about it. This case was the reason that all of our moms needed us home but the time the lights came on. We would spend the night at our neighbors houses just so we wouldn’t have to walk home after dark. I’m so happy this man is finally found and served.
Do they suspect Tim of other crimes? It's not really the sort of crime where the criminal stops at one victim. I read somewhere years ago that the average rapist has between 8 and 16 victims before ever being caught.
I don't mean to be obnoxious but WTH?! ... 103 inhabitants and the police effed it up 😱?!
@@saymyname2417 it's not surprising. Most departments have keystone cops in their employ.
@@saymyname2417 probably county police who cover many more communities than just this one
@@CornbreadOracle - That could very well be. With the country being so huge and those many small communities that would make sense. Thanks and have a great week!
I love the fact that those women's intuition led to convicting this monster and his coworker was so brave to collect his DNA. Well done ladies. Do not mess with women!
LMAOOOOO
@@monwe8050 wtf is so funny?
@lamb bella just ignore him. Only a Male would wrote something so damn dumb like a woman didn't birth him, feed him, and raise him.
Awesome job I would of done it to
Don't mess with women??
Yeah it only took 20 some years for them to speak up. Smh
I gotta give credit to his brother for doing the right thing & testifying. I can’t imagine the integrity that took. Very difficult choice.
Actually it's not and it shouldnt be difficult. That what a decent human being does.
No it's really not
I agree because I would have to deal with God, I could never go against my brother… I would stay out of that. I am my brother’s keeper and I don’t care how anyone feels about it
I tend to agree.
Even though it seems an easy decision to make.
They are siblings.
Grew up together.
Must've been difficult..
@@choutzuyu8915 yea it actually is mate you clearly havent had a relationship like brothers have. Its an extremely hard thing to throw someone you grew up with and loved as a brother under the bus. You cant speak for everyone based on your emotions when you arent even involved at all.
4:50 I think about this moment so often. The fact that he wanted to give her comfort and assurance despite the obvious fact that she was deceased. It’s just so kind and so human in the midst of such a horrifying event.
And i thought he was afraid that her body might fall apart
"No ones ever asked me that"😭😩💔 that one got me, i cant imagine the pain that can come behind dealing with these cases especially when it hits close to home💯🗣
Yes, that got me too.
Me too!! 💔😭
Same
I got a lump in my throat at that point, hurt my heart
Well, of course, the elder cop was emotional after all these years. In a small, close knit community like that, the poor man never expected to drag a girl's body out of the river. What's worse, he actually knew the girl & was reminded of his own daughter!
There were WW2 veterans, who were at Omaha beach, that couldn't stand to remember or talk about that day, not even when they were white haired senior vets. A good friend of mine had brought her Dad to "Saving Private Ryan", thinking it would enable him to finally talk about it. When the Omaha Beach invasion/blood bath scene came, he got up, walked out of the theater & wouldn't say another word about it, whatsoever. The few vets who would actually talk about their arrival during "Operation OverLord", they ALL said the real thing was even worse.
She must’ve been an incredible young lady to leave that much of an impact on a whole town. So much so that even 30 years later they were still talking about her. That’s amazing! Rip! 😢
So sad. Makes you wonder what she would be up to today, if she were still here.💔
Whose rip ?
@@irasaposnik6511 Please tell me you're joking?
Probably a very small town, one or two high schools.
You know her furrow was so gleem
This beautiful lady who got his DNA; YOU ARE A ROCK STAR!!!! You went to great lengths to get it. No matter what you are a super hero.❤
*Bad things OnLy Happen to those who have ReJected Lord Jesus!!!*
*Look at Me, No Bad thing Ever Happens to Me!!!!*
@@Justin.Martyr Thats a disgusting thing to say.
Knowing she was potentially dealing with a killer, it was outstanding courage, and without her actions, he might never have been prosecuted. Hats off to you, dear lady, you are the heroine of this story!!
@@Justin.Martyr Interesting assertion. I happen to know Jesus is a myth and I have never had a bad day. We should keep track of who has something bad happen to them first.
By saying he was innocent after raping a young teen should have been thrown in with hungry tigers. Put in God's hands like Daniel.
The first miracle in this case is that they all stayed alive for justice to be finally served everything knitted together before their very own eyes
If I was his boss, and he called me “woman,” that would be the last time . He would be unemployed real quick. A lot of people ignored his misogynistic ways.
Right? I was like, who tf is this dude to talk to her like that.
I agree 💯...I would have been jacking his a** up & putting him in his place BIG TIME!!!! He definitely wouldn't have liked me very much, lol 😆 😂...I don't take ANY disrespect from ANY guy/man PERIOD!!!! I've had enough of it to last a lifetime, SO I decided a while ago that I'm NOT putting up with anymore of it for the rest of my life...I grew up in abuse, I was married to abuse, now I'm finally single & away from abuse...Never again will I be in ANY abuse or abusive situation; physically, mentally or verbally... 😀😃🙂
Those were the times...Many people still ignore it to this day.
Yep 👍 this was his boss!!
She should of fired him!
Nobody could get away with that anymore, nasty creep, glad he’ll spend rest of his life locked up!✊👍
I couldn't believe she just "brushed it off" like that.
Mandy's mother is so adorable. The man that pulled Mandy out of the water was so heartwarming with his "I gotcha". The amazing women that figured out that it was Tim and got his DNA were so smart!! It really seems like this town has a wonderful community that was deeply hurt by Mandy's death and wanted to do everything they could to stop it. I hope they're all doing great.
What are the chances of the two women both saying they knew who the killer was in casual conversation?
@@tomruth9487 so rare. They knew he was a predator.
yes, resembles my mom.
@@tomruth9487 What do you mean? Firstly, the most horrific case that ever happened in a small village would be talked about for generations. Secondly, none of the two women had any idea that the other had a similar experience with Bass until they mentioned it. So the question should be: what are the odds that three young women are molested, one of whom ends up dead, by the same guy and he's innocent of that death? Aren't the facts that the DNA proved it was him, even though she already had a boyfriend, and that he tried to smear a reputation of a dead girl enough for you?
So yes, the villagers will be randomly meeting, chatting about stuff and ending up talking about this for decades to come. Not much else to talk about there, is there?
@@gaiagreen2690 I think I'm more with you than you think. I see your point, in a small town crimes like that are talked about often. Yeah, the ego that he had to try and smear the reputation of a dead girt is proof of what a true monster he is.
The killer rubs me as a man who will take a lie to the grave. While the mother rubs me as a woman who thinks her son can do no wrong. Believing everything that her son says. I’m glad justice was served. I hope he serves his full sentence without the possibility of parole.
He should receive the death penalty
Two narcissists
her mother is my new role-model. i am a survivor of human trafficking, kidnapping, and a witness to multiple violent crimes. the strength she gave me tonight is strength i haven’t felt since 2 years and 3 months ago, when i survived.
also. the victim….she was one of the truly most beautiful humans to ever walk this planet. absolutely mind-blowing at the depths of her physical beauty. may she rest in sweet, sweet peace.😩❤️
Congratulations on being a survivor and no longer a victim
Omg when the guy who pulled her out of the water was talking I was so choking up, and then when asked did he say anything to her when he turned her over ? ….. 😱 I was balling. The pure emotion from everyone in this case and her mum bless her. The cops , friends family etc all were so emotional even now talking about a case from so long ago was overwhelming! This poor girl . The fact there are people in this world who think they have the right to steal a life is abominable!!!
AMEN 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
Crying right with you!! 😢
Yeah. It's hard to take. I could never work in law enforcement because of all the horrible things people do.
@@wizzardofpaws2420 Every now and then you do get to help decent people so it’s not all horror.
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I have so much respect for the man who came out of retirement and did this free! Now that’s a sweet darling!
Never have I been so impressed, so completely won over, by a group of total strangers. These townspeople epitomize what a community should look like....strong, brave, caring for one another, and determined to do the right thing on behalf of one of their own. Just, Wow! I wanted to hug every one of them...especially the momma and sister. God bless each precious one of you guys, and I pray you all know how deeply Jesus loves Mandy and each one of you...
Well said and I agree!
The Acme police dept really dropped the ball in this case. How does It take you 30 years to solve a case when the guy lived so close to her family's house? Should have been standard procedure to get DNA of everyone that lives nearby. 30 years?! Shame on them.
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I agree! What a great community Acme is! 💞💞💞
Amen to your wonderful comment!
I’m so happy Mary, the mother, was able to see justice before her time came. Truly happy for her. RIP Mandy. ❤
Even the police got emotional… the community has such a strong bond. I’m glad the family (especially her mother) got closure for this. RIP Mandy.
Seeing grown men cry gets me every time 😢
Me too, I instantly start crying 😢 😭 when a man or men start tearing 😢 up or crying 😭....Really tugs at your heart ❤️....
@@pamelafrye4667 yep…same….instant tears! Breaks my heart…
Except when the murderer cries...
@@cc-sb1is that kind of goes without saying
Wimp
Not even a full 5 minutes into it I'm already in tears when the police officer is asked what he said to Mandy " I got cha" 🥺😭 bless him and her forever ♾️
Heartbreaking. That gentle man who pulled her out, and all the others who had their hearts broken by the loss of this sweetheart, God bless all of you, and rest her soul 🙏❤️
You too?
I know same here,😢.
Beautiful soul. Thank you all who came forward and spoke your truth to put this monster away!
THE truth.
Seeing how people never forgot her just shows…there’s more good people out there than we think.
This was a high profile case in a small town. I live in a big town and people remember details from crimes long ago.
The same good people that keep quiet for 25 years and don't look for perpetrators among the "well liked in the community".🙄
Yes you mostly hear about the bad ones
@@maryflanagan6819 what’s your point? That’s what Michelle basically said.
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Why is it so heart wrenching to hear an older gentleman cry??????
It makes me feel that way too.
The press conference for for the arrest of Libby and Abby’s murderer in Delphi made me cry anyway but to see that gentleman break down at the podium made it even worse.
Speak for yourself
@@americannightmare2109 they were speaking for themselves.
Makes me cry everytime! I think it's because men don't show emotion a lot, so when something so painful is hurting them that they do show emotion, it's heart breaking to see.
Because we know how they feel...?
When the investigator who found her said 'I've got you, ' to Mandy, I cried. Like ripples in the ocean, those words speak to the heart of so many. So many victims of predators in this world, who exploit others for power, and their victims never hear those words. Kindness heals. If you're a kind hearted person, you are worth more than all the gold in this world.
Beautifully said!
@@nnuu7618 No, it was the detective who picked her up in the river. Did you even watch this?
@@nnuu7618 He was a detective leading the search team.
Detective/ investigator same thing.
Me too. That really breaks my heart.
It amazes me how tenacious detectives are, and how deeply personal some cases are.
They are human with families & children.
I graduated in 1989 too. I can tell you that someone like Mandy would never have been interested in someone like Bass, and certainly never had a secret affair with him. He was that one creepy kid we all went to school with and your instincts take over when you're around someone like that. You know something is wrong with that type of person but you just don't know what.
I agree no way she would have been interested in him
Some girls like bad boys though.
i GRADUATED IN THE 70'S AND IT'S TRUE AND THE SAME THAT YOU SAY.
You dont know that.
He got married and was married for a long time.
Ive seen so many 'odd' people in my life and most people usually disqualify the behavior. And since there arent a million people murdered every day like this, most odd behavior is just that. Plenty of women that actually like such kids, bc they think they can sure them. And sometimes they can even.
Its always easy in hinesight. Same with those 2 women, which decades later state that it might be him, or is him, but thats 20 or more years later. Im sure back then they just did it off as a person being awkward with regard to women. But the ones not awkward with women are equally suspect. So everyone is. It doesnt mean all that much. Only when you know it becomes easy.
I think they have a demon spirit. Demon spirits are always looking for a soul to inhabit. Some of these people get taken over and that's why they become so weird. They need Jesus, badly. We all do! I hope you have him in your life because you don't want to die without him.
I will never understand how these defense attorneys can live with themselves, how do they sleep at night knowing they are making up lies to keep murderers and rapists out of prison.
Amen. Him saying there was no signs of a struggle .. he did not rape her. . Was absolutely disgusting of him to stand there and say. He will get his on judgment day, though!!
I know what you're saying morally. Legally it is their obligation to raise the best defense they can for their client.
no room for moral fiber n law i guess
Even the guilty under the law deserve the best defense they can get. We're to assume innocent until proven guilty. But yeah I agree. My son finished law school and was conflicted with which way he should go, prosecution vs defense, said he couldn't rest putting the innocent behind bars or getting the guilty off, so he chose medical negligence as his field.
Money 💲💲💲💲💲💲
Grow tf up .
Mr Peterson’s reaction to Mr Van Sant’s question “Did you say anything to her”? Really got to me. We don’t always think about the people who find the missing but this man, even with his training was still a dad and a human. I’ve watched many true crime shows but this man’s recount is probably the one that will stick with me the most. I’m sad for the life Mandy never got to live but also so happy she had so many who lovedyyghhhyyy her. I was blown away by the impact her young life had on so many in her community. This was a really good story
I agree
Yup!
48hrs does these stories well. Very compassionate and thoughtful questions. Peter and Erin are the reporters I like best.
"I got you"
Gets me every damn time.
Yes! I cried when mr Peterson told him “you’re the first person to ask me that” 😭😭😭😭
Thank you for making justice to this young lady and her family. ❤
So many heroes in this heart breaking story: the detective and the sheriff's office, the retired prosecutor, the bakery lady who got the cup and Coke can,the 2 ladies from the water park , Tim Bass's ex wife and brother, and Mandy Stavik herself. All of them....HEROES!!
You mean the two ladies that had suspicions for 20+ years, but never said anything. Giving the murderer 20+ years to make more victims.
I don’t blame these women… but heroes… far from it.
Ladies from the water park are not heroes. One had him in her house. He told her he wanted to have sex with her and always loved her. He wouldn’t leave until she continues to threaten to call the cops. WHY wouldn’t you tell the police? I’d get a restraining order against that creep. She had a baby to protect if she didn’t care about herself.
Even his relatives hated him for his behaviour.
She could have changed the world had her life not been stolen. Rest well, Mandy.
@@jordanhenshaw sit down Jordan.
Change the world? Come on now!
@@bridgetwadane4392 Good lord, calm down and don’t take everything so literal. Where I am from, it is an expression that means they could have done a great many things in their life. It is typically said when a young life is over. It more or less translates in English as “they could have changed the world.”
So, go enjoy life. I suspect nitpicking UA-cam comments for potential contextual errors doesn’t bring much happiness to your life. If it does, then I feel very sad for you.
Unlikely
The description of her running through the blackberry brambles to try and save her own life is horrifying. I feel like I've seen that scene in so many films and TV shows, so I can visualise it so well. The absolute terror. And the fact that she didn't get away, horrible. At some point while running she must have hoped that she would be able to outrun him, to have the hope and her life taken away is just such a horrible image.
What I find so very sad is that it was said she was a fast runner and athletic. How horrible that somehow he caught her. Poor girl 😢 RIP dear Mandy❤
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@@Noa-g1ex oh shut it
@@Noa-g1ex a man will put on this channel u can have ur own video all about u
Women
I’ve been to Acme and the people are some of the kindest I’ve ever met. Mandy was so loved by her community, and I’m so glad that they were able to come together to bring her killer to justice
Thank God the ex-wife and brother had the decency to testify and to speak truthfully. Shame on the defense lawyers and expert witnesses that casted doubts! When Bass acted like he didn’t remember who Mandy was, that sealed his fate! And refusing to provide a DNA sample was another huge admission of guilt! I pray that Tim Bass’s stay in jail is as terrifying and horrific as what he put Mandy through!
you can't blame the defense lawyers. That's our system. It's defense lawyers jobs to represent/defend their client. It sucks, but what's the alternative? There has been many cases where the opposite happened. Someone accused gets 20,30yr sentence, and finally DNA proves them innocent, after having spent decades in prison.
Defense lawyers don’t try to justify what their client may have done, they only try to make sure that all sides and facts are shown and that their client gets a fair trial. There’s ill will from any defense attorney to the victims and their families. They don’t do it to make anything more painful for anyone. But they HAVE to raise any doubt. Because by our own rights we have to be able to convict someone beyond the shadow of any doubt. If there is any doubt at all you cannot send someone to jail for life.
@@SwedePotato314 so in this case there IS still a minute possibility that they had a secret sexual relationship right??
BUT we all KNOW he is the one who murdered her!!
So should he not be punished because of that minute possibility?
@@Straightfromtheheart8691 I’m not saying he didn’t do it. What I’m saying is that the justice system puts the burden of proof on the prosecution. Im not saying anything for or against anyone in this case. Im describing the US justice system and defense lawyers. And yes, prosecution HAS to prove that everything they say is true. The burden of proof is on the prosecution in every single case ever. The defense doesn’t have to prove anything one way or another. Their only job is to raise doubt. Because whether or not we all rationally know if someone is guilty, like Casey Anthony, you CANNOT give someone the death penalty or send them to jail for life. In ALL jury instructions it is very very clearly because if they decide guilt on feelings or “knowing” something then a mistrial can be declared and the suspect walks free. Costs the state another trial. In every single court proceeding it is stated clearly that the prosecution MUST prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. If the defense raises reasonable doubt, not because the person is innocent but because the state doesn’t have a good case, then they cannot be convicted. No judicial system will ever be perfect because humans are imperfect and there is way too room for human error unless computers run everything. So yeah it’s not perfect but that’s the rights you are granted as a citizen or as anyone facing a trial in the US.
How dare the defense lawyers cast doubts ..
The guy who found her and her coach just had me sobbing.Mandy obviously touched their lives in two very different but important ways. Rest easy beautiful girl ❤
@@rian1laj That wasn't HER father, he was A father. Go back and listen again.
My heart goes out to the whole family. But I would like to note that the wife of Tim is obviously a person of integrity, not to mention very beautiful.She was victimized badly. And having children makes a person even more easily victimized.I hope she has gone forward and has had counseling and realizes her self worth.🙏🏽
Yes indeed. And Mandy's mom seems like such a sweetheart. You can really see in her face the love for her daughter in the courtroom; after the verdict.
His entire family did too have a lot of integrity. They told the truth
That’s very admirable! In today’s world family seems to protect their own no matter what.
@Jonny Moon yes rly
Families are corrupt to the marrow
They cover all sorts of crime
Could not agree more thank you.
The fact that even strangers were emotional after all those years shows what a close community it was.
Kim Wagner is an absolute hero - what courage she had.
100% I'm in awe of her fortitude.
Justice never looked more beautiful. I am deeply saddened by Mandy's death she had so much life in her you could tell.
She lived a lot in such a short time sounds like by her accomplishments
Maybe that's the thing though... a lot of people I know who died young had bright futures ahead. Maybe there's this thing with amazing kids- they're amazing because their soul knows their time's almost up.
The saddest was the man found her said "I got you"
@@noelstar1456 True, my friend was dying and he told me you can feel yourself that you are.
Not sure I've ever seen a case profiled where nearly everyone involved was in tears even discussing the details. She must have been an amazing young woman.
Statistically speaking, probably not that amazing of a woman. Probably an overly strong case of the death halo effect, strengthened by the violent and unfair manner of death.
We have facts from people that knew her plus her record of accomplishments. These are facts not assumptions, and based on those facts she most likely would have made a large impact wherever she went.
@@martyg2333 The same is said posthumously of just about everyone who had a funeral ever.
@@jordanhenshaw did that do something for you? Putting down a dead woman. Honestly, let them praise her, what harm does it do?
@@niagrace16 It’s probably not true.
The fact that two women claimed to know who the killer was but couldn't speak of it, because of living in a "small town", tells us a lot about small town America.
''I GOT YOU'' 😢any parent knows the meaning behind those words, it is so strong. What an amazing community, it is incredible what human beings can make possible when all come together, and her mom I am so happy she got the chance to witness the monsters who took her little girl being cuffed to spend his life in prison. God bless her and bless everyone involved, this case really touched me.
He shouldn't be in prison he should get the death penalty.
Genuinely started crying when the man asked that question
I couldn't agree more. You could tell how much this case affected this entire community.
This man should have been executed. He took the life of this beautiful young woman who left a positive mark on the hearts of those that knew her. He doesn't deserve his life, even in jail, after what he put her and her loved ones and those that knew her, through.
Not any parent don’t take that for granted 😢
Be thankful if you had it
Terrible Police work. Guy lives just up the road and on her running route and they left them alone because they were considered a decent Family. Shameful.
And he has a loving mother like Cindy watts, mother of Chris watts, who could suspected him?
I totally agree with you. I felt the same way about this police department. My heart goes out to her family and the community.
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I live in a small town and I regret to report that things still work today the way they worked in 1989 as far as families are concerned. If you have the correct last name or belong to the correct religion, cops tend to look the other way.
That's how Ed Gains and Ted Bundy got away with it for so long too.
Him suggesting that they had consensual sex after he raped and murdered her was about as insulting as Chris Watts suggesting Shannan killed their children. Both were preposterous. Some of these criminals will say anything to excuse themselves, make themselves look good (they think), and insult the victim all at once.
💯!!! Always playing victim
These people...the defense counsel and T.Bass I am certain crawled out of the same sewer as DJ Trump.
Really one of the most heartfelt programs on crime. The Acme community is obviously still moved to tears regarding their loss.. and all of then worked together to achieve this outcome. Wonderful people. RIP beautiful talented Mandy
Waiting for two months to get someone's DNA is pure dedication and also took a stand in the court for what she think is right. I really admire her. Salute 💪🙏
Unfortunately overfeeds her dog though which is a form of animal-cruelty.
@@ljones2087 What? Where did you ever get that from?
*The audacity of these criminals to go through trial and cause these families to relive what they did truly shows how evil they truly are.*
100 percent agree.... Shameful
Yeah, how dare they...*checks notes*...exercise their constitutional rights! What absolute monsters! If even a single person is guilty, NOBODY should have a trial!
It's called "psychopath".
The murderer may have been hopeful that the witnesses may not turn up - so that they can then walk off free
@@JamesiaIncThat's not what they are saying. Obviously if someone indicates innocence or not guilty, then there should be a trial and a thorough investigation that could exonerate the person. The point he's making is that some criminals who know they are guilty will still dispute the charges and force a trial and drag out the process. In the hopes obviously that they are declared not guilty despite actually being guilty.
When he found her and said “I got you” that just broke my heart even more.
may she be in peace. ❤️
Why do people wait 20-30 yrs. to voice their suspicions of a suspect?
I think it's because when you're young, it's just too big. You are afraid, your frontal cortex isn't fully formed, and you have a lot of self doubt. The confidence that comes with age and experience helps a ton. Just a thought!
both of them thought they were each alone in their suspicions and disturbing encounters with him. plus neither had hard proof, he/his family seemed relatively respected, and small town mentality is a hell of a drug.
I’m sure the narcissist enjoyed the fact that some people contemplated that he had a relationship with Mandy. So incredibly ridiculous...
Rip Mandy.
Holder
Definitely a narcissist
Why is that ridiculous? Young kids don't sleep around?
@@jordanhenshaw Because he was by all acounts, a creep.
@@jordanhenshaw They do but not with creepy weirdos when they are a popular cheerleader. This guy is insane just for thinking anybody would believe that.
I love how all these people are so emotionally involved and that even his family did what's right.
"I got you" every parent knows that feeling.
Wanting so badly for your baby or any other baby to be okay and know it. This is heartbreaking 💔
While I fully agree that it is absolutely heartbreaking, I _hate_ that they included that, along with pretty much an entire third of the whole... whatever this is supposed to be, because it's definitely not a reportage. There was _zero_ reason to even ask him whether he said anything, _other than_ to get the audience emotionally invested in something they'll never even hear from again. So why did they ask it? This is emotional manipulation to sell something, in this case ad time, nothing more, nothing less.
@@Wolf-ln1ml I don't know. I see the perspective that you have here. However, I do appreciate the fact that they showed the impact emotionally that this had on all parties. I would have never thought to ask that to the person who found her. A big part of reporting is covering as many angles as possible so the reader/viewer gets as clear of an understanding as possible.
Thank you for your comment❤
@@Wolf-ln1ml pretty callous opinion.
@@Kirsty_Leanne How so? I simply realize _that_ they're going for emotional manipulation to sell stuff, exactly _because_ I'm just as affected by it as others - I'm just aware of it and don't like it, _because_ it's manipulation.
@@Wolf-ln1ml what exactly do you think they’re trying to sell here?? Yes, it may have been an emotionally loaded question but it’s clearly a very emotional case. You just come across as so cold and cynical.
Imagine withholding information that could solve a crime that’s over 20 years old. I can’t comprehend! it!
When the Defense team blames the victim they should go to jail also.
They should share a cell with him.
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Agreed. It is a reprehensible defense strategy.
Exactly. I wonder if it was one of their daughters would they defended him??
I see what you’re saying, and that makes me laugh. But that’s part of the justice system. Everybody deserves to be able to defend themselves and there are cases of wrongful convictions.
How sick that this man lived so many years without being caught, in the same town, while the victims family are mourning and grieving. He didn’t deserve that.
The prosecutor coming out of retirement was amazing! So many caring people involved in this case (the retired lead detective that found the body, Kim the bakery boss, and the prosecutor). Mandy's mom is adorable and seems like such a sweet lady. One of the best episodes I've seen in a long long time!
This case was very emotional to watch. 😢
Yes !!! And he didn’t even want any pay. Totally volunteered his time. Glad he lived to see the end result. Some folks don’t live this long. So awesome and sweet revenge for him.
Makes me have more faith in my country.
It’s so incredible how a community was so affected by what happened to Mandy, and that none of them stopped until her killer was caught.
My heart breaks for her dog just as much as everyone else in this case. He witnessed the entire thing, never saw his owner again, and no ability to communicate what happened.
Reminds me of a book about animals, "If Only They could Talk". Bet that other animals in other times and places have witnessed (so to speak) horrific crimes too, so it is a shame they can't communicate with us.
I was looking for this comment! 👏
Not much of a dog, didn't even bite the guy
@@esmeraldagreen1992 He a lover not a fighter
@@esmeraldagreen1992 the dog was very old, arthritis and all. He was just too weak.
That defense attorney is a real piece of work. The former wife was so courageous and kind. Kudos to her.
Hello Patricia
How are you doing today?
Thank you to everybody that made it possible for this case to go to court, especially the investigative team, Kim Wagner and the prosecutor.
My heartfelt condolences to Mandy's family and friends and Tim's wife and children.
The detectives and men who helped solve this case and cared so much - God bless you.
It’s a shame the ladies did not speak up about their encounters with him sooner. Her poor mother went through too many years of torment not knowing. I’m happy she lived long enough to see him locked up.
Because it was gossip.
@@MoorenaEl It wasn’t gossip. The one was almost raped by him in her own home. She should have reported it to the police.
Exactly. Those 2 bother me with that. It was bad enough that Mandy Slavik was murdered and then for those 2 women to know who did it and keep quiet about it until years later surely should be some law broken. Neither of them are heroes.
@@ghostdemon7936 they didnt know. They had suspicion. And even to this day if they reported their incidents during the time it happened no action would’ve been done. Because police dont do anything unless you’ve been physically assaulted.
They are part of a small town community. Shame, fear and worried that they will be expelled from their town for inventing stories. I understand their situations
The comment right at the start from one police officer is why it took them so long to find him: they were looking for a drifter, not a local man hiding in plain sight. The recent arrest in the Delphi case shows how wrong that can be.
They were looking for a black person..
@@wendcooper2160 there’s been an arrest in Delphi ?
@@cheeriosforhonkies8867 Yes
@@wendcooper2160 No black people in acme. Couldn't you tell that by how shocked everyone was at a homicide? Lol
The arrest in Delphi was a local. They suspected it was a local from the beginning.
The trial hasn’t happened in the Delphi case yet. Unless you have a magic crystal ball, you have no idea what the outcome will be or what the evidence may even be in the Delphi case. You just like hearing yourself speak.
It disgusts me that the murderer was allowed to live his life for 28 years as a free person.
My mother says these are the types of cases she loves best, when the predator has become old, comfortable - maybe a couple of kids and expecting a cozy, relaxed middle age. Then: the knock at the door, out of the blue, with the dreaded initialism: DNA. You don't want to be entering old age with arthritis-riddled joints on a cold prison bed - and your reputation annihilated. To the narcissist, self-image is everything.
@louisedow6489 that’s rather delusional. Facts/truths mean nothing to you. I suggest you go see a psychiatrist.
@@reesemorgan2259 my x is a lier and abuser who played victim and is a narc borderline personality and phycopath type personalities...
Well the weakness of those two girls
I don't think I have ever cried so much over a case/show like this. So emotional and heart breaking.
"Mandy set out for the last jog of her life..."
This got me. I bet she felt safe jogging with her German shepherd.
Seems being female and jogging solo is the most dangerous thing to do.
It’s so upsetting! We can’t even enjoy ourselves without being worried that someone might want to harm us. 😢
It all started to make me cry.
That got me too. I always feel safe with mine, what an eye opener.
@@amandagareis7876 it shows the audacity of the killer to attack a German Shep.
100%
I hope Mandy Stavik is resting in peace.
The town of Acme did a great job working together to solve this case. Justice was served…
Astonishing that the perpetrator was thought too respectable to have murdered!!!
What a creep, hope we know better now!!
Its called being psychotic. People like that perfect the art of charm and likability so no one would EVER suspect them. I'm so glad in this day and age DNA technology is available and advanced.
Being a graduate of that same high school, this story touched everyone in that community as well as the whole county. This was hard to imagine happening in the same area that I grew up in. Still hard to watch all these years later.
What a terrible case. Haunting.
Thank you for posting.
She was just a baby. Every time a member of the community teared up, so did I. What a special place this town is, that they ALL cared so deeply. Life is beautiful. DON’T take someone else’s life and Keep living beautifully. I’m so glad they got him. You can tell his ex wife has so much trauma to work through from being his wife. His punching bag.
So glad they finally caught the guy. What really struck me was the emotion all who were involved in this case had. So glad the mother was still alive to see justice prevail.
The mother being able to finally see justice was so great. And the whole town saw it too.
The way so many people came together in this case is truly inspiring.