bro huh? just bc he aims strangely doesn’t necessarily means he’s hacking. and you can’t really say someone is hacking based off of one game. a track record of odd games is easier to tell.
@@Jundesite For me, it's more because he doesn't hit any of his Hanzo shots far ranged and only close range, plus he shot the wall twice aiming at someone(and someone with good sense or tracking would've waited it out or shoot the exposed hitbox). People kept up bringing up that he could have good aim, but he swerves off a recoil and domes someone with McCree while mostly missing his shots on Hanzo, which makes me believe that he's using a hitscan cheat rather than projectile cheat, which causes most of his shots on Hanzo to miss because it's not compensating for projectile travel, and relies on close range or a rather still motion.
you can add miss % to the good cheats so you can 50% hit and %50 miss Cheats these days are so hard to detect .. there is so many cheat now you CAN'T tell if he is cheating or not search for ( SWAN cheats or Gosu cheats or Wyvern cheats )
To be fair, he could've been using a hitscan cheat and he was playing a projectile hero like Hanzo. He prob swapped to be less sus, especially since he only hit insane shots up close where the projectile part didn't matter as much with Hanzo. His shots on McCree were FAR more accurate, although he shot at the walls a few time, when compared to Hanzo. Like the difference in shots he landed on Hanzo far ranged when compared to McCree was vast, and I don't think he hit any shots on Hanzo past 15m while as McCree, he swerved off Recoil and DOMED someone after trying to shoot Ana, and he failed to shoot at a Junk's arm while shooting the WALL towards the Junk's Head for a bit too.
He tracked through walls as Cassidy and Hanzo, maybe not aimbot but he knew the soldier was flanking at 4:05. Maybe was a sound cue but the reticle follows the soldier through the wall.
The reticle does not follow soldier though the wall, his reticle was already there before soldier jumped down and he could definitely hear the footsteps
Well they've got some weird shakey moments here or there but I'd just say nerves or tremors or some shit, dude ain't cheating whatsoever. So many moments where cheats don't do anything that he showcases consistent mouse control.
i don't think he's cheating cause his aim look like how other hanzo main look like when they try to do some cool flick for a youtube video (not about his game sense cause i'm not top 500, can't tell if his game sense is good or bad)
his game sense wasnt bad. he stayed with team, stayed behind the tank and had good focus. his aim was a bit weird but honestly my aim looks just as weird when i play cass. might be a switch from hanzo to cass cuz i'm a hanzo main and when i switch to cass, it looks...yeesh but then you warm up and it smoothens out a bit. i agree and dont think he was cheating. i think he paid attention to sound ques and that's why people susing walls
Maybe it’s just the fact that I’ve been banned 3 times falsely on widow, but I can’t see the cheats, I know people with wayyy better aim, even if his aim was different people still aim weirdly, but the biggest point I wanna talk about, is when you are looking for cheats in someone’s gameplay, you find everything sus, every possible micro movement from the person looks sus if you are looking for it.
I have a friend who back in overwatch one couldnt even get to level 25 before getting banned on widow. the report system for overwatch has always been broken and this guy just looks like he plays aimlab a lot as well as overwatch. this kind of aim isnt uncommon in aimlab.
@@NOTKNOWNLOGICyour friend was hacking. If the best Widows in the world aren't casually being banned for hacking. Neither would your sub 25 Widow friend.
@@NemisisRecords Getting banned in lower ranks is really common. If I play on a metal account as a hit scan I get banned usually within 10/20 games for hacking. But the system can't tell if you're actually hacking. You get banned for having a certain amount of reports, regardless of whether you're hacking or not. Jay would get banned pretty quick if he went on a gold account and tried hard to win every game on Ashe or Soldier. Lower ranks report a lot when they lose to better players.
The parts that made me raise eyebrows a bit was the seemingly 0 recoil Fan the hammers and that fight against the briggette at the first point that looked weird. If he was compensating for the fan recoil youd maybe expect to see some lingering adjustment at the end which i dont remember seeing in the clips. Rest of the gameplay didnt see anything egregious. Funnily enough iirc the Symmetra was the only one to get headshot by Hanzo and was saying hacks because of it. As for some of the other awareness type stuff like the junkrat and genji, people tend to forget how important sounds can be. Climbing walls with Gebji/Hanzo/Suzu and Junkrats pegleg footsteps make pretty distinct sounds at close range.
I have aim like that Hanzo but that's because I keep flicking my mouse last second for some reason. It's like a twitch so I just don't play Hanzo anymore lol Same thing for my Ana sleeps, almost always miss those things
Jay3 talks to his chat like he's the smartest person on earth. People make some good points and he just completely dismisses them with his condescending tone of voice.
The recoul with rightclick, is something i would not consider, cos when i use rightclick if i ever play him i pull my mouse down to get the shots to line up
he’s snapping on and off people, you can see his aim fighting with the aimbot and him not being in sync with the aimbot, regardless he’s always just snapping onto people, and the fan the hammer shouldve been a dead giveaway as he perfectly maintained that
@@kingbaco1233 aim at that level is uncommon in overwatch, which is why a lot of talented people never get to play the game. the report system is broken and you dont need to be cheating to get banned for it. there are videos covering this but most people havent seen them.
The start of the game is the classic "Adderall makes me play better" type gameplay. Doing air. Overshooting. Doing nothing but think you're actually popping off. Placebo addiction. Addy makes you play worse folks ya just think ya play better haha. Rest of the match, yeah my dog turned it up once or twice but right back down.
Doesn't look like a cheater, looks like someone that needs to turn down his sens and he'll hit loads more shots. Guy knows where people are going to go but has no aim to back it up. So he's flicking to where they are going to go but overshooting by miles. Probably wants to hit clips for his tiktok or some shit when he'd hit more clips turning the sens down. No signs of walls, no signs of an aimlock. Guy missed majority of his shots and had no clue where people are when peaking but tried to flick on them, guy almost died to Meg when he tried flanking to see if he could get a quick pick. Man has the brain for the game but just not the aim.
Did they really just correct McCree to Cassidy with to speech to text? I mean, i get his name is changed but is McCree like Voldermort now or something? Lol, must not quote anyone saying his old name 😂
McCree was named after one of the devs. That particular dev was mentioned in several cases of "toxic workplace culture" (which includes sexual harassment) and left the company during the fallout of the lawsuit without a reason given Plus, Blizzard doesn't want us using the name anymore and since Jay is an OW pro player... Might be better to use the new name to keep Blizzard off your back
I'm reading thru the comments and it's crazy y'all really don't think he's cheating. One of the notifiers for someone aimbotting is WEIRD aim. His aim is very strange, shaky, and his tracking is good but WEIRD in many places, like the moment with the Brig on payload. Another thing is he keeps making quick glances at people behind walls, but quickly looking away bc he knows it will give him away. It's so obvious that this guy has hacks.
@@NOTKNOWNLOGIC I am an avid OWL watcher and I disagree with you here. The quick snap movement looks far too robotic to be a natural flick. Just an opinion though.
nah, this one seems like a false positive. i've hit equally wack shots in other games, and at the level of masters it's reasonable for them to be used to countering the fan recoil. him shooting the genji through the wall might have been him unloading his bow so he can walk back to sightline, and was expecting the genji to run away.
yeah the cass out the gate had some REALLY weird microflickers like it was trying to lock on a target but couldnt, def doesnt look like something normal person could do. Legit slow the video down to 0.25 watch @ 3:25 - 3:40
@@PrinnyLord yeah, masters player shooting not through the door for better coverage (logical), but on ana's head through two walls.. ops sorry, I meant randomly at a wall.. okay buddy
@@ice-dogga mean he did sonic arrow the wall which was entirely logical as half the team walked up there? wdym i legit see nothing wrong with that ?masters players arent ALWAYS going to make the best play? no one is
@jay3 I’ve seen many hacks like this. It’s sort of a momentary snap bot. Many activate it with the crouch key so you don’t see the snap as crouch causes a little snap on its own. You see a player spamming crouch a lot and hitting everything? 9 times out of 10 it’s a snap bot…
I reported like 10 hanzo's last season, all of them were banned the next day. Also a few pharahs recently. I remember season 1 was a lot of soldier cheaters. Maybe they got bored with that haha.
I’ve seen it before, this is the kind of cheating where you don’t aim lock but you drag your mouse across a player’s body and the cheat shoots for you, this kind of cheating is used to not look as sus, and with this kind of cheat it is still possible to miss shots, it’s why on cas you can see him sway to the side then back to the body, it was a lot more apparent on Cassidy cause Cas is a hitscan, but it does also look like they have a button that they can turn on and off, cause the hanzo wasn’t as sus (only because he’s a projectile) except those few moments where an opponent was close and he started aiming weird, it’s also appeared in a flats video if you need a reference and more explanation with a more apparent silver with these kinds of cheats
I think it’s quite the opposite it looks to be very sophisticated it seems to pull towards almost like aim assist but not quite. The cheat seems to be entirely reliant on his trigger discipline that’s why his cassidy had some crazy flicks but, he’d still miss shots because he wouldn’t wait till the moment the aimbot lines up. The flick on Ana while she was in the air was inhuman and is something prime shroud wouldn’t be able to accomplish unless he’s looking for it. Also his alt fire on Cassidy was crazy I think that is what the cheat is best at when he’s getting rolled he probably switches to alt fire. That also explains why the hanzo did not look too crazy because of how hanzo is, the cheaters play style of dragging and shooting will not work on hanzo until, he uses his storm arrows. When he has a full auto bow his aim locks onto a center point, this guys solider must be unhinged. This could all be speculation but a lot of the comments think this guy isn’t cheating.
Imma be real, idk if this guy was cheating, but if overwatch pros really think controlling vertical recoil takes pro level aim, you shouldn't be a pro, especially from the distance he was from the enemy on cass. I'd also like to point out he's most likely a keyboard player, and recoil is a joke to control on keyboard in general. Edit: again I'm not saying he's not cheating, but if you think it requires the same skill as controlling a gun that has bloom (such as both vertical and horizontal recoil patterns at the same time) you should just uninstall.
Not sure if it's cheating or not, the left - right Snapping could either be due to lag (ping or frame rates) or him trying to flick and being a little incompetent 🤣. Having said that, I'm a GM2 Cassidy player, and the recoil control on the fan the hammer was almost inhuman, so maybe he was cheating, very hard to tell. The later it got into the video, the more inclined I am to think he's cheating, some very strange almost soft locking, but his movement is good... so he has mechanical skill for sure, its really hard to say for sure.
Ngl, it just looks like these guys r just huffing the STRONGEST of COPIUM. And it's all just getting backed by all these yes men in chat. But if he was hacking, then hes got it set to like 2% cos nothing was really connecting for the most part and a number of the kills can be justified by the fact that people just walked into the arrows, the only way to really know is if we had back to back comparison of a hanzo player at that same rank or higher.
Crazy to see so many people dismiss the fact that silent aim and cheats on low settings exist, or just walls. Some people just subtly do it. Do I think he was cheating? Idk, maybe, thats not normal aim, its just not, dont care if hes "intentionally going for flicks" thats just not normal aim, but whatever it is its definitely not egregious
idk if he is cheating maybe. the 0 recoil fan the hammer can be knocked up to the fact he was jumping. and it's not exactly impossible to control the recoil. he did have a few sus snaps but he missed alot too. thf this reminds me when i use to crank up my sensitivity and attempt to flick to people. and his aim kinda looks like that minus the tracking part but even with it he still missed alot even with cass
could be a glass mousepad. my flicks often look like that (weird wiggle) because of the lack of friction and my bad mouse control. i can't flick on every shot though, it's too hard for me (i'm d2)
Looks like they just have twitchy aim. I can see how that looks like cheating like the aim looks like it could be abnormally snappy and locked on but like jay said most of their shots went far left or right. Look at their shots on every one they twitch as they shoot. It would be different if their aim was abnormally snapping directly to a target they weren’t looking at and hitting every single shot but in this case it just looks like weird aiming
His positioning and game sense alone should give it away. The fact that he’s micro flicking while “flicking” has me giggling. Cute trigger bot that isn’t turned up. @ 13.20 you can see his actual aim compared to when he’s not using his bad bot.
You have to look at the micro flicks that happen. Their aim will micro flick left and right on a target then he fires. This is common among projectile hacks, it tries to predict movement. Not all hackers are going to be rage hacking with aimbot to the max, some just use walls and a soft aimbot, kind of like console aim assist but for PC. For example, the person in this video.
To some of yall in the comments saying "oh he just has shakey aim"...I am a person with very shakey hands and weird ass aim. It is not THAT CONSISTENT and REPETITIVE as this person.
If anything there's a very soft aim assist and maybe walls. I don't think he did anything too weird though and probably just likes to flick and reset his aim after every shot. I've seen some Kenzo clips that are way more sus
Why is his chat coping so hard for that guy? A CS GO player would never downgrade to Overwatch first of all. You’ll have recoil when using fan the hammer idfc how good you think you are.
i think he was lowkey cheating like it wasnt a hard aim lock but he just plays and aims so weird. there were also a few times jay didnt mention where after getting a kill he kind of flicked really fast to a next target like that hog after flux.
Seriously dude if you can’t play then opponent is a cheater. If you had seen opponent’s hanzo is Arrge or Kenzo then its all makes sense right? How a gm player cant see that? All hanzo/widow with high sense looks like that in slow mo reply. Have you ever seen Kenzo’s flicks? Or how many times he is called a cheater? Though I am not comparing him to them still many player has different aim style. Not everyone aims with tracking some characters do better with flicks. The funny thing is he is not even flicks that well still called as a hacker. Well done dude, lost all respect for you, cause you knew all that still, for content you accused someone who doesn’t even looks cheating for one bit.
He is definitely cheating. His aim is shaky only when he hovers over someone. When he shoots a wall his aim doesn't do the shaking stuff. The hacks these days are really advanced but with a closer look you can Def see it.
How could u not see him auto locking ppl at the very start then losing focus on them bro is obviously cheating and has walls huh his movement was ass too you don’t get there with trash movement he is clearly fighting the aim bot
he’s definitely cheating it’s just not as obvious as other cheaters are, he has a soft lock which is why his tracking is so good but he flicks to try and get headshots which is why he misses so much, a really easy way to tell is by how much the crosshair shakes over the opponent
Ah yes i love playing with cheats that make me miss like 70% of my shots too 🤣
Jay3 isnt technically short, everyone else is just tall by comparison
Jay3 isn’t balding people just have more hair
@@Taylo148jay3 isn’t technically super chiseled and lavishly handsome, everyone else just games all day and only talks to e-girl mercys
@@Taylo148 Even Asmonbald has more hair than him
@@sufferintoilet6231 a lot of people have more hair then him
If he’s around 5’8, then that isn’t short, that is average height, so you are correct in that case
4:02 confused the sh*t out of me! XD
i genuinely don’t think he’s cheating, he’s probably playing on a high sense of trying to hit flick shots for a clip or something
He is cheating lol, it's obvious to someone who knows what they are looking for
There’s always one person who says they aren’t cheating lol
bro huh? just bc he aims strangely doesn’t necessarily means he’s hacking. and you can’t really say someone is hacking based off of one game. a track record of odd games is easier to tell.
@@Jundesite I'm telling you I can tell he is cheating, I've cheated in games for years it's obvious
@@Jundesite For me, it's more because he doesn't hit any of his Hanzo shots far ranged and only close range, plus he shot the wall twice aiming at someone(and someone with good sense or tracking would've waited it out or shoot the exposed hitbox).
People kept up bringing up that he could have good aim, but he swerves off a recoil and domes someone with McCree while mostly missing his shots on Hanzo, which makes me believe that he's using a hitscan cheat rather than projectile cheat, which causes most of his shots on Hanzo to miss because it's not compensating for projectile travel, and relies on close range or a rather still motion.
Part of me is waiting for it to come out that this was just one of Kenzo's alts.
why would he get cheat that misses like 90% of shots??
you can add miss % to the good cheats so you can 50% hit and %50 miss
Cheats these days are so hard to detect .. there is so many cheat now you CAN'T tell if he is cheating or not
search for ( SWAN cheats or Gosu cheats or Wyvern cheats )
To be fair, he could've been using a hitscan cheat and he was playing a projectile hero like Hanzo. He prob swapped to be less sus, especially since he only hit insane shots up close where the projectile part didn't matter as much with Hanzo. His shots on McCree were FAR more accurate, although he shot at the walls a few time, when compared to Hanzo. Like the difference in shots he landed on Hanzo far ranged when compared to McCree was vast, and I don't think he hit any shots on Hanzo past 15m while as McCree, he swerved off Recoil and DOMED someone after trying to shoot Ana, and he failed to shoot at a Junk's arm while shooting the WALL towards the Junk's Head for a bit too.
Bro really posted this thinking people would agree with him 😂
He tracked through walls as Cassidy and Hanzo, maybe not aimbot but he knew the soldier was flanking at 4:05. Maybe was a sound cue but the reticle follows the soldier through the wall.
It was aimbot also. His right clicks had perfect recoil control. I’ve been playing for 4 years I can tell this guys aim just isn’t natural
The reticle does not follow soldier though the wall, his reticle was already there before soldier jumped down and he could definitely hear the footsteps
He's not cheating, he just got an RGB lit gaming chair.
Well they've got some weird shakey moments here or there but I'd just say nerves or tremors or some shit, dude ain't cheating whatsoever. So many moments where cheats don't do anything that he showcases consistent mouse control.
i don't think he's cheating cause his aim look like how other hanzo main look like when they try to do some cool flick for a youtube video (not about his game sense cause i'm not top 500, can't tell if his game sense is good or bad)
his game sense wasnt bad. he stayed with team, stayed behind the tank and had good focus. his aim was a bit weird but honestly my aim looks just as weird when i play cass. might be a switch from hanzo to cass cuz i'm a hanzo main and when i switch to cass, it looks...yeesh but then you warm up and it smoothens out a bit. i agree and dont think he was cheating. i think he paid attention to sound ques and that's why people susing walls
Maybe it’s just the fact that I’ve been banned 3 times falsely on widow, but I can’t see the cheats, I know people with wayyy better aim, even if his aim was different people still aim weirdly, but the biggest point I wanna talk about, is when you are looking for cheats in someone’s gameplay, you find everything sus, every possible micro movement from the person looks sus if you are looking for it.
I have a friend who back in overwatch one couldnt even get to level 25 before getting banned on widow. the report system for overwatch has always been broken and this guy just looks like he plays aimlab a lot as well as overwatch. this kind of aim isnt uncommon in aimlab.
@@NOTKNOWNLOGICyour friend was hacking. If the best Widows in the world aren't casually being banned for hacking. Neither would your sub 25 Widow friend.
Yeaaaaah you were hacking. 3 times? Please 😭 You'd have to be BETTER than the best widow in the world to trick that many people into reporting you.
@@NemisisRecords Getting banned in lower ranks is really common. If I play on a metal account as a hit scan I get banned usually within 10/20 games for hacking.
But the system can't tell if you're actually hacking. You get banned for having a certain amount of reports, regardless of whether you're hacking or not.
Jay would get banned pretty quick if he went on a gold account and tried hard to win every game on Ashe or Soldier. Lower ranks report a lot when they lose to better players.
The parts that made me raise eyebrows a bit was the seemingly 0 recoil Fan the hammers and that fight against the briggette at the first point that looked weird. If he was compensating for the fan recoil youd maybe expect to see some lingering adjustment at the end which i dont remember seeing in the clips.
Rest of the gameplay didnt see anything egregious. Funnily enough iirc the Symmetra was the only one to get headshot by Hanzo and was saying hacks because of it.
As for some of the other awareness type stuff like the junkrat and genji, people tend to forget how important sounds can be. Climbing walls with Gebji/Hanzo/Suzu and Junkrats pegleg footsteps make pretty distinct sounds at close range.
I think the weird aim might be because he is trying to flick to the targets while his possible soft aim also is. But i dont know if this is true
he's not cheating and his aim is like every Arrge video but without the talent
I have aim like that Hanzo but that's because I keep flicking my mouse last second for some reason. It's like a twitch so I just don't play Hanzo anymore lol
Same thing for my Ana sleeps, almost always miss those things
Bro every time this guy fires a shot the aim shakes like he's got parkinson's. What is up with that XD
Jay3 talks to his chat like he's the smartest person on earth. People make some good points and he just completely dismisses them with his condescending tone of voice.
The recoul with rightclick, is something i would not consider, cos when i use rightclick if i ever play him i pull my mouse down to get the shots to line up
5:58 looks at junk thru wall but quickly aims where he should instead of directly at thru wall lol
He’s not cheating overwatch players just being freaking babies man
he’s snapping on and off people, you can see his aim fighting with the aimbot and him not being in sync with the aimbot, regardless he’s always just snapping onto people, and the fan the hammer shouldve been a dead giveaway as he perfectly maintained that
Ana jay3 isnt real. They cant hurt you
The thumbnail:
xaeyro aim look like junkrat main youtuber's flick, they flick shot and flick back to make it look so cool when u hit without look at it
Not cheating was missing way too many and his aim looked like unrefined flicks (i've seen aim like this before)
Missing shots doesn’t mean not cheating. I just don’t try ink there is enough gameplay to fully prove this guy innocent
@@kingbaco1233 aim at that level is uncommon in overwatch, which is why a lot of talented people never get to play the game. the report system is broken and you dont need to be cheating to get banned for it. there are videos covering this but most people havent seen them.
The start of the game is the classic "Adderall makes me play better" type gameplay. Doing air. Overshooting. Doing nothing but think you're actually popping off. Placebo addiction. Addy makes you play worse folks ya just think ya play better haha. Rest of the match, yeah my dog turned it up once or twice but right back down.
Doesn't look like a cheater, looks like someone that needs to turn down his sens and he'll hit loads more shots. Guy knows where people are going to go but has no aim to back it up. So he's flicking to where they are going to go but overshooting by miles. Probably wants to hit clips for his tiktok or some shit when he'd hit more clips turning the sens down.
No signs of walls, no signs of an aimlock.
Guy missed majority of his shots and had no clue where people are when peaking but tried to flick on them, guy almost died to Meg when he tried flanking to see if he could get a quick pick. Man has the brain for the game but just not the aim.
I aim like that and im on p5 but it mainly helps me figure out where I’m aiming as habit
If he's not cheating. He's probably just aiming with his wrist, which is why he has such poor and unorthodox tracking on short distances.
Did they really just correct McCree to Cassidy with to speech to text? I mean, i get his name is changed but is McCree like Voldermort now or something? Lol, must not quote anyone saying his old name 😂
McCree was named after one of the devs. That particular dev was mentioned in several cases of "toxic workplace culture" (which includes sexual harassment) and left the company during the fallout of the lawsuit without a reason given
Plus, Blizzard doesn't want us using the name anymore and since Jay is an OW pro player... Might be better to use the new name to keep Blizzard off your back
@@SomeKindaHero117 like the hong Kong incident
@@SomeKindaHero117 I refuse to submit. I'll always call him McCrassidy now. No one can change it.
@@moonyfruit I mean, "refusing to submit" basically says you're supporting the dev indirectly in Blizzards eyes
I'm reading thru the comments and it's crazy y'all really don't think he's cheating. One of the notifiers for someone aimbotting is WEIRD aim. His aim is very strange, shaky, and his tracking is good but WEIRD in many places, like the moment with the Brig on payload. Another thing is he keeps making quick glances at people behind walls, but quickly looking away bc he knows it will give him away. It's so obvious that this guy has hacks.
it seems like normal gameplay to me. We can't forget the fact it is Hanzo tho.,
Doesn’t look like he’s cheating to ne
12:57 when he snaps to the Hog is the most blatant example imo...which is exactly when Jay alt-tabbed rofl
Just seen that
Oh my your right
thats not cheating. that level of aim is pretty common in other games in high ranks.
@@NOTKNOWNLOGIC I am an avid OWL watcher and I disagree with you here. The quick snap movement looks far too robotic to be a natural flick. Just an opinion though.
@@NOTKNOWNLOGICIt might be natural but that body tracking feels unnatural especially how he changes his aim so much compared to hanzo and cass
nah, this one seems like a false positive. i've hit equally wack shots in other games, and at the level of masters it's reasonable for them to be used to countering the fan recoil. him shooting the genji through the wall might have been him unloading his bow so he can walk back to sightline, and was expecting the genji to run away.
flickmaster69 KEKW
yeah the cass out the gate had some REALLY weird microflickers like it was trying to lock on a target but couldnt, def doesnt look like something normal person could do. Legit slow the video down to 0.25 watch @ 3:25 - 3:40
13:24 that shot through the wall on ana
Sonic arrow, because 5 seconds prior to that time stamp enemy team was all heading in that direction.
@@PrinnyLord yeah, masters player shooting not through the door for better coverage (logical), but on ana's head through two walls.. ops sorry, I meant randomly at a wall.. okay buddy
@@ice-dogga mean he did sonic arrow the wall which was entirely logical as half the team walked up there? wdym i legit see nothing wrong with that ?masters players arent ALWAYS going to make the best play? no one is
@@IZONE_FAN if you see nothing wrong, it is fine.
@jay3 I’ve seen many hacks like this. It’s sort of a momentary snap bot. Many activate it with the crouch key so you don’t see the snap as crouch causes a little snap on its own. You see a player spamming crouch a lot and hitting everything? 9 times out of 10 it’s a snap bot…
his aim on Hanzo was a bit wonky as well around 2:20
I reported like 10 hanzo's last season, all of them were banned the next day. Also a few pharahs recently. I remember season 1 was a lot of soldier cheaters. Maybe they got bored with that haha.
Homie didnt set his sens high enough for the cheats to work, that's why his aim is so shaky over targets lol
The walls are pretty blatant tho
I’ve seen it before, this is the kind of cheating where you don’t aim lock but you drag your mouse across a player’s body and the cheat shoots for you, this kind of cheating is used to not look as sus, and with this kind of cheat it is still possible to miss shots, it’s why on cas you can see him sway to the side then back to the body, it was a lot more apparent on Cassidy cause Cas is a hitscan, but it does also look like they have a button that they can turn on and off, cause the hanzo wasn’t as sus (only because he’s a projectile) except those few moments where an opponent was close and he started aiming weird, it’s also appeared in a flats video if you need a reference and more explanation with a more apparent silver with these kinds of cheats
I think it’s quite the opposite it looks to be very sophisticated it seems to pull towards almost like aim assist but not quite. The cheat seems to be entirely reliant on his trigger discipline that’s why his cassidy had some crazy flicks but, he’d still miss shots because he wouldn’t wait till the moment the aimbot lines up. The flick on Ana while she was in the air was inhuman and is something prime shroud wouldn’t be able to accomplish unless he’s looking for it. Also his alt fire on Cassidy was crazy I think that is what the cheat is best at when he’s getting rolled he probably switches to alt fire. That also explains why the hanzo did not look too crazy because of how hanzo is, the cheaters play style of dragging and shooting will not work on hanzo until, he uses his storm arrows. When he has a full auto bow his aim locks onto a center point, this guys solider must be unhinged. This could all be speculation but a lot of the comments think this guy isn’t cheating.
Both of you need a gf
Not cheating just Aimlabs standing still on the flicks
It doesn’t seem like hard cheats but soft aim + walls was definitely there.
"definitely" is pushing it tbh. I could see this jus straight up being how they play
Lmao walls 💀💀💀 yeah okay
The MCCREE
Imma be real, idk if this guy was cheating, but if overwatch pros really think controlling vertical recoil takes pro level aim, you shouldn't be a pro, especially from the distance he was from the enemy on cass. I'd also like to point out he's most likely a keyboard player, and recoil is a joke to control on keyboard in general.
Edit: again I'm not saying he's not cheating, but if you think it requires the same skill as controlling a gun that has bloom (such as both vertical and horizontal recoil patterns at the same time) you should just uninstall.
Bastion locking on target through walls lmfao
Doesn’t look like a cheater to me arg shoots like that
Not sure if it's cheating or not, the left - right Snapping could either be due to lag (ping or frame rates) or him trying to flick and being a little incompetent 🤣.
Having said that, I'm a GM2 Cassidy player, and the recoil control on the fan the hammer was almost inhuman, so maybe he was cheating, very hard to tell.
The later it got into the video, the more inclined I am to think he's cheating, some very strange almost soft locking, but his movement is good... so he has mechanical skill for sure, its really hard to say for sure.
Ngl, it just looks like these guys r just huffing the STRONGEST of COPIUM. And it's all just getting backed by all these yes men in chat.
But if he was hacking, then hes got it set to like 2% cos nothing was really connecting for the most part and a number of the kills can be justified by the fact that people just walked into the arrows, the only way to really know is if we had back to back comparison of a hanzo player at that same rank or higher.
Crazy to see so many people dismiss the fact that silent aim and cheats on low settings exist, or just walls. Some people just subtly do it. Do I think he was cheating? Idk, maybe, thats not normal aim, its just not, dont care if hes "intentionally going for flicks" thats just not normal aim, but whatever it is its definitely not egregious
idk if he is cheating maybe.
the 0 recoil fan the hammer can be knocked up to the fact he was jumping. and it's not exactly impossible to control the recoil.
he did have a few sus snaps but he missed alot too.
thf this reminds me when i use to crank up my sensitivity and attempt to flick to people. and his aim kinda looks like that minus the tracking part but even with it he still missed alot even with cass
could be a glass mousepad. my flicks often look like that (weird wiggle) because of the lack of friction and my bad mouse control. i can't flick on every shot though, it's too hard for me (i'm d2)
It’s not hard to compensate the recoil on fan the hammer what are you talking about
Looks like they just have twitchy aim. I can see how that looks like cheating like the aim looks like it could be abnormally snappy and locked on but like jay said most of their shots went far left or right. Look at their shots on every one they twitch as they shoot. It would be different if their aim was abnormally snapping directly to a target they weren’t looking at and hitting every single shot but in this case it just looks like weird aiming
His positioning and game sense alone should give it away. The fact that he’s micro flicking while “flicking” has me giggling. Cute trigger bot that isn’t turned up. @ 13.20 you can see his actual aim compared to when he’s not using his bad bot.
He might be playing on a controller
It feels like a slight aim assist if any at that
Hanzo with bad aim = noob
Hanzo with good aim = cheater
I don't think you guys make sense he did nothing
You have to look at the micro flicks that happen. Their aim will micro flick left and right on a target then he fires. This is common among projectile hacks, it tries to predict movement. Not all hackers are going to be rage hacking with aimbot to the max, some just use walls and a soft aimbot, kind of like console aim assist but for PC. For example, the person in this video.
hope u get cheaters in your game and you don't know
@@Ram3wcope harder
Did an esteemed member of the chat just compare CS spray control to being a right click randy . . . . . this is fine :)
To some of yall in the comments saying "oh he just has shakey aim"...I am a person with very shakey hands and weird ass aim. It is not THAT CONSISTENT and REPETITIVE as this person.
Are you #1 Cass or something? Nobody can be better than you?
He’s not cheating
apparently spray control is mind breaking knowledge to overwatch players
jay we love you
I think he was cheating probably using a triggerbot and walls and that can explain a lot of what was happening
That initial part of the video my boy was reverse cheating because he didn't hit a sinlge arrow.
If anything there's a very soft aim assist and maybe walls. I don't think he did anything too weird though and probably just likes to flick and reset his aim after every shot. I've seen some Kenzo clips that are way more sus
Why is his chat coping so hard for that guy? A CS GO player would never downgrade to Overwatch first of all. You’ll have recoil when using fan the hammer idfc how good you think you are.
Yea i dont think this guy is cheating by any means? he hit like 20% of his shots and flicked like 4 times?
i think he was lowkey cheating like it wasnt a hard aim lock but he just plays and aims so weird. there were also a few times jay didnt mention where after getting a kill he kind of flicked really fast to a next target like that hog after flux.
Seriously dude if you can’t play then opponent is a cheater. If you had seen opponent’s hanzo is Arrge or Kenzo then its all makes sense right? How a gm player cant see that? All hanzo/widow with high sense looks like that in slow mo reply. Have you ever seen Kenzo’s flicks? Or how many times he is called a cheater? Though I am not comparing him to them still many player has different aim style. Not everyone aims with tracking some characters do better with flicks. The funny thing is he is not even flicks that well still called as a hacker. Well done dude, lost all respect for you, cause you knew all that still, for content you accused someone who doesn’t even looks cheating for one bit.
He is definitely cheating. His aim is shaky only when he hovers over someone. When he shoots a wall his aim doesn't do the shaking stuff. The hacks these days are really advanced but with a closer look you can Def see it.
How could u not see him auto locking ppl at the very start then losing focus on them bro is obviously cheating and has walls huh his movement was ass too you don’t get there with trash movement he is clearly fighting the aim bot
Not cheating lol
Jay is the tallest streamer na don’t play with him
Yes, i think Cass was cheating. Hes a shit Hanzo though.. body shot bandit with those cheats.
W VID
Yo yo
100% soft aimlock.
He definitely soft locked through people's heads behind walls at the beginning. Feels like he has a very soft aimbot
Can I get a timestamp of soft locking to heads behind walls? I can't see it
@@jusarson7237 01:34, 01:40 and 01:42
it might not be a soft lock but it sure looks like it to me
@GentlyUsedFrog Ah I see it now, yea little too sus you be just a coincidence
he’s definitely cheating it’s just not as obvious as other cheaters are, he has a soft lock which is why his tracking is so good but he flicks to try and get headshots which is why he misses so much, a really easy way to tell is by how much the crosshair shakes over the opponent
Not cheating
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How the fuck is this guy cheating in any way
I think he's got soft aim. Something to help with his non existent tracking.
not cheating