@@angerskarin9222 That's not true at all lmao...I feel like everyone in the comments has the most ass backwards thinking of how cheaters think. Cheaters DO NOT give a fuck about the game. They cheat to piss people off and laugh when they make content about it. JUST like this. They want to see their names up on videos/posts and people crying about it. The game is FREE so not like they lose anything from a ban anymore. I used to be one of them. I promise you LARGE majority of us DO NOT care about the game AT ALL. If we did we would play it legit. Cheaters KNOW we will LOSE the account at some point no matter what. So if we REALLY wanted to "seem better" we wouldn't be losing accounts all the time. We could just use wallhacks and it would take you MUCH longer to figure it out and most likely you'd never even know. People who want to actually climb/get better won't ever use aimbot. Aimbot is GUARANTEED to get you banned sooner than later. Cheaters cheat because they want to piss you off and ruin your day. That's OUR fun.
You ever see Roomba fights? Where people strap a sharp object on the front and a balloon in the back and first to pop wins? We should treat them like that.
I'd love it if the Overwatch devs took all the players who get reported for cheating and put them all on a separate server and see how long it takes for one of the cheaters to post "Overwatch 2 is infested with cheaters" while also cheating.
I wish this is what they did, just put anyone who cheats on a separate server or like queue so it takes longer for them to make a new account, give em higher ping, just ruin their experience subtly.
Those games with exile servers are so much fun to peek into. It’s like walking into an old MW2 lobby with a 6 hour nuke timer, entire screen is shaking by spamming explosives, 3 AC130s in the air. Like imagine living like that.
That would be such a smart idea tbh. Instead of banning them since the game is free now, just put them all on their own little server so they can keep playing and buying cosmetics lmao
yeah andrey widow was probably Gold/plat you can tell by movement etc but still obvious cheats. Unlucky covers it up better in the beginning by being dogshit until you realize he's just dogshit.
Bronze? You give him too much credit, if there was a potato rank he'd be in that, he had 0 clue what the game is even about. He only knew what the enemy looked like because his hacks would auto target for him otherwise I think he thought he was in a free for all 1v9
@@寝子猫-j4y lol ur bugging if you think a gold plat dps has that kind of map awareness and positioning. Prob a console masters + player who cant aim. Or just someone boosting a mercy player for $$$$$$$$$
tbf, it's hard to tell if the cheater on your team is cheating cause you wont get to see from their perspective until after the game.. the teammates probably just thought they were smurfs
this!! I haven't placed yet because I don't feel comfortable inflicting my potato pc on others when rank is on the line, but I've been in plat for several seasons so I assume that'll be where I end up in ow2, which is generally the rank where there's a lot of smurfs, so I've never gotten in the habit of assuming anyone is cheating because it seems like a lazy way to just make yourself feel better for dying like an idiot to enemy widow lol however, I did run into someone who was GM/top 500 but then hadn't played in a couple of years, and I actually feel like I'd be able to spot a cheater now lol the biggest thing for support players like me to know is that exceptional dps players play more safely than you expect. good widows, for example, typically play near health packs or on high ground where there is an easy escape route to safety. aside from cheeky grapple shots at the beginning of a round, they typically save their grapple to escape. they play like they're not expecting healing because they understand their supports can't always help them (LOS, someone else needing help more, etc). they're aggressive, they'll hold W, but they don't stand out in the open. and if there isn't a wall or something, and they're on a roof or something, they will stand far enough back that they can easily break LOS with the edge of the building by walking backwards. I play with a lot of dps who think having a mercy who's devoting a lot of resources to them means they can do absolutely bonkers things. good dps players don't do that. they also don't panic. I played with an excellent widow recently who reacted the exact same way I did on mercy when the enemy team (finally) went Winston to counter: just calmly waited for Winston to jump and then grappled away. they didn't run around using the SMG like it was actually going to scare the Winston away, they didn't stay inside the bubble (not that it would have done anything because mercy can heal through shields), they just grappled a significant distance away and that grapple took them to SAFETY, around a corner so Winston would have to turn the corner to come get us which would break the LOS of Winston's supports. honestly, seeing that kind of thing for myself, instead of in a video, was the most educational thing ever. it's one thing to watch UA-cam and twitch and hear highly ranked players talk about what good dps do (that cheaters don't) and another thing to see it in your own games. and this is a mercy specific thing, but I was CERTAIN this person was wayyyy more highly ranked than me when they were aware of me respawning and they walked a couple of steps backwards so I could get back to the fight just a LITTLE bit quicker. now, obviously, taxi-ing your mercy is generally a good play when you have the time, either because you just respawned yourself or because it's between fights. but this stuck out to me because it showed a smart balance of competing interests: (1) the fight was currently happening so they needed to be in it and contributing value that way but (2) having five people as soon as possible was critical. so they were aware enough to know I was respawning and to know they could just walk a couple steps back without leaving the fight to help me get back. dps players in my rank are not aware enough to do this. it's an incredibly subtle thing. don't get me wrong, a lot of dps players will taxi me, but it's either because they just respawned before me so they just wait a little outside and let me GA to them or they full on leave the fight to come pick me up which is generally the wrong move, imo.
This actually highlights the difference between good and bad game sense, positioning, awareness, etc. You can have PERFECT mechanics, but if someone else has good mechanics and WAY better game sense, you're toast
the widow on the first team was one of the only ‘good’ cheaters i’ve ever seen. all other ones had garbage gamesense and was lost, this person actually looks like they’d be a medium-high rank without cheats… too bad they use them tho.
See, I thought that the anti-cheat was looking for cheaters to ban them, but this whole time they must have been looking for cheaters to face off against each other- that's next level. Just put all the cheaters in a games against each other, over and over.
Be funny if they just made a hackers gamemode. Then they could go wild and we could watch some crazy vids once in a while. I mean like a hackers comp ladder or something like that. Then they could sell them the cheats and make more $$$$ Actiblizsoft should love that
Thats what I think Titanfall did… when you get banned as a cheater, get another account and cheat on. But as long as I know Titanfall had a shadow ban system, so that a cheater would only play against other cheaters. That way they could do some HvH and let the other players live their life.
@@nevermindthebull0cks There was an ow1 match in Chiness server where 11 out of 12 players are cheating lol. It was actually a really fun replay to watch, they had decent teamworks and special tactics that are usually not seen in regular games. Both team played around their dva and bap, and they just waited around a corner for the bap's field cd, and charge in with both field and dva matrix😂😂😂 The team that has the only legit player actually won the game lol(he posted the replay code and a video)
@@qiyuxuan9437 I get what you mean, it sounds fun. I would play a game mode where mechanics didn't matter. it would really make you focus on strats, timing and positioning. I lose most of my fights now because my mechanics aren't great or I lose focus for a second. I do realize that non shooters are this game mode, but I do like shooters:)
@@Jifran so i get that its inappropriate behavior, but is it ban-able? Do the rules say anything about continuing to play the game when there is a hacker on your side?
@@Jifran Yeah not gonna lie it's definitely not easy to tell if someone is aimlocking just by them being on your team. As a mercy you pocket the person who has the highest DPS potential. That wouldnt be fair to support players for just helping their team out without knowing they're not playing the game legit.
@@寝子猫-j4y agreed. Like, not everyone knows if someone is cheating or not, I've been playing games for over 2 decades and it's quite easy for me, but if OW is your first FPS then shit like this is hard to understand. Even then, I boosted a cheater for half a game before I realised they were cheating and I felt really stupid. Some hacks are really subtle. So it's really difficult to do. But if they're on your friends list, then yeah, they know and should be banned as well
@@寝子猫-j4y at their rank Mercys dont usually pocket someone all game, their other players were doing pretty good too and they were not exactly losing the game. It’s hard to think the Mercy wasn’t in on it. When your entire game is centered around the hacker and you don’t know the hacker, I’d issue a one week ban. If you know them, permaban.
To be fair i think the reason unlucky comes off bad is because their hacks would be pretty hide-able if they just actually knew anything about the map or how to fain knowledge lol. which is why cheating is a serious problem, its not always so blatant
@@nevermindthebull0cks i think unluky is just a new bad player, that instead of learning to play resorts to cheating. The hother is a experienced cheater, i know exactly wat is cheat do and how to abuse them, plus i has a lot hof game knoledge, so this is probrably is 2-3 acount lol
What I hate is people just wanna play for fun and these hackers kill the fun no one can/will play because of them but thankfully Blizzard cares and actively takes care of it
I had a game where the soldier 76 on enemy team had suspiciously good tracking whenever i peaked a corner and there's no way he should know I'm even there and then i realised he was just blatantly cheating. They pick soldier because people will think it's their ult, and the guy in my game had a pocket dmg mercy too. It's so lame
@@kingsarues1586 I don't know, as a low rank Mercy all that usually goes through my mind is "Damage boost whoever is killing the most red guys" As in, finishing off their kills. Not farming damage numbers off of tanks and plink damage. Im not high enough rank to spot friendly hackers.
At 4:33 that slight pause is them flipping the 'hard hacks' switch. Seen that shit in so many CS:GO games back in the day. They'll just get suspiciously still and quiet for 5-10 seconds and then suddenly your entire team explodes.
Literally had that discussion with a mate the other day. Maybe he watched this vid before bringing it up. If I get a cheater on my team ideally we can pull a draw. If there are cheaters on both teams though it’s the Wild West as far as I’m concerned. May the best cheater win.
Blizzard announced that in the second installment there will be no people who play on hacking programs.... As you can see from this video, Blizzard is lying....
Would be nice if Overwatch team would mark your replays with a symbol to let you know there was a cheater in that game. But yeah I wonder how many times their has been cheaters in my games since I’ve been playing for 6 years.
I wonder that too. I've only had like 2 or 3 games in my 4 years of playing OW where it was so obvious I checked the vods for confirmation myself. But there were probably more where it wasn't as obvious and I would've just thought that enemy dps is really good.
Big shout out to Snoozy and Noobsterr for the thumbnail and edits. Great job you two. What I would do though is call for a map draw and then report of both of them. They'll either get banned or enough reports will get Blizzards attention. Great content Jay it was enjoyable to watch.
the fact that 70% of times there is a cheater if u watch replay makes me sad, sad because until they rage people dont reconize them.. so its like 1 game yes and 1 game no, there is a cheater
i think its the other way around, the teams knew THE OTHER team had a cheater and played accordingly. Mercy only sees the kill count and even then, mercy still played the field, reinhart only sees the other teams cheater and is using the best possible counter he could think of. You expect too much of Rando's.
@@zeedstun891 no, they’re playing together, it was like that the whole game. There’s no way they didn’t know they had a cheater with him aimbotting like that.
@@-_-Matt-_- I'm not gonna lose a game because I have a cheater I don't know with me so yes I'm gonna do my support job and then report AFTER the game. I'm not gonna waist 15 min for Honor or cute morals.
It's absolutely hilarious when I call out cheaters in the game and they get so offended!!!! Hahahaha. Like, it is so obvious when one player is doing something in ways the other 9 aren't. Such funny interactions.
I mean I don’t think you can get banned by playing with a cheater unless your in a group playing every game together so utilizing a hacker is how you do it
What you could do in this scenario is that rest of the 8 players just vibe and let the two cheaters duke it out by themselves, doesn't really matter who wins and should be a quick game since it's a 1v1 at that point.
I swear I've played against them too, playing as widowmaker. I recall the name and the annoyance they gave me was unbearable. I generally hope they actually get rid of cheaters because man does it ruin a good game.
I play with people who don't believe people hack in OW2. They will get a 5k with all perfect head shots in quick play and their like "naw, they just cracked."
just becuase someone hits 5 clean headshots doesnt mean theyre cheating. you have to look at how theyre aiming. flicks are humanly doable, however if the flick is instant its clear hacks.
I remember damage boasting and healing a Widow who was popping off and someone on the enemy team said she's hacking but only 1 person said it and the rest of the enemy team said nothing. So how do I tell mid-game when a teammate is hacking?
And before someone gets mad at me, I still boasted & healed her after being called out as only 1 person said something but I didn't pocket or rez, just in case it was true.
l was in a game with andrey he played gengi and i thought he just has godly aim its nuts that i found this video cause now it shined some light onto the situation lol
As stupid as the match is, and as much as I disapprove of cheating, this is technically a fair match. Both teams have an aimbot+wallhack dps. The way I see it, playing around it is fair game.
damn it's video like this that make me want a full learning AI play on OW to see how insane the game could get XD no human error, pure headshot madness. comp would be so different with perfect aim ^^
To be fair an AI would be better in this scenario to make human like gameplay instead of raw aim. We already got raw headshots with classical cheats and that's what makes them so easy to flag, because they are too perfect. AI is good for learning strats that humans couldn't have thought of, or attaining pro level cheats that are undetectable because they mimick exactly human behavior
lowkey the only reason unlucky lost that game was because his team comp was not built to support a cheater, he had a zen and a ana, zen is just a DPS disguised as a support and ana is a team support not a pocket one, while andreyka had a mercy, the best support to pocket the entire game, dmg boost, constant healing and a revive to correct their mistakes, and you can clearly see the diference, unlucky was allways on timer to respawn while andreyka never spent more then 2 seconds dead, unlucky was just unlucky that game
Gotta love when OW players wanna treat pocket Mercys as someone who is worse than a cheater. They didn't choose to queue with the hacker and its not like Blizzard ever refunds their SR anyway.
The first cheater seemed like he was actually pretty decent without hacks. He has good positioning (granted he has walls) he knows how to use grapple (isn’t too hard but still) and it looked like he wasn’t using aimbot on widow. He seems like he has at least a few hundred hours but he obviously wasn’t too good if he has to cheat.
they should add an option to surrender the game as a draw for this type of scenario. basically any player can put up a vote to draw the match and if majority of players votes yes the game ends in a draw
I have ended up doing this on accident before in quick play role queue. It was at the start of the match and to me it looked my soldier was popping off and to their credit, they were doing a good job of hiding their hacks at first. Then they amped it up until it became obvious even to us and then as a result, I convinced my team to throw the game. One of my DPS’s even switched to Mei so they could sabotage them.
Personally, I don't have much experience with shooters and find it hard to know if they are cheating. In this video it's obvious but sometimes, I have people constantly hitting me with impossible shots and the next moment they derp and only hit bodyshots. Like litterly they shouldnt at all know where I am and they still see me. MAYBE if they were extremely good, but Im bad so they should be too? Then again, matchmaking sucks so I never really know. Also, I think Ive seen Unlucky in a game against me, he was just as derp and obvious with cheating.
4:23 as someone who plays a lot of Mercy, this is when I would have given up on my widow. listen, I expect that, if someone goes widow, they're going to be able to click heads. I'm not in a super high rank so I also expect some pepega plays from my teammates, just as they should expect some pepega plays from me. so, to me, if someone is getting picks and then also dies in a goofy spot from a goofy play, that isn't going to immediately make me think they're cheating. if you get too aggressive and die and then waste my res, which is one of the most valuable resources in the game (even more valuable in ow2, imo), by CONTINUING to get aggressive instead of falling back to the rest of the team to regroup? yeah no, absolutely not. you're still on my team so I'll heal you up when you need it, but I'm not wasting team resources by pocketing you when all you've done up to this point is waste resources and get yourself killed for no reason. let me be clear: this is different than just making a mistake or dying unnecessarily or in a silly way. that happens to ALL of us. but if this is what you're doing at the start of a round when there's nothing to gain by pushing their spawn by yourself? I would be the one making a mistake if I continued to devote disproportionate resources to you. I don't need to know you're cheating to know I shouldn't pocket you. TLDR good dps players don't die like this. they don't play like they're expecting me to bail them out. good dps understand that the role is called SUPPORT, not HEALER, so they don't play with the expectation that I'll always be there to top off their health or that I'll always have res for them/that I'll always decide to use it on them
That moment when hacker kills another hacker once, all hell breaks loose. Same thing goes for GTA5 but at the end they always become friends. That is one of the things I like about the gaming world.
watching this confirms to me that the Hanzo that was in my game was hacking, I used my ult on widow and he knew exactly where I was and followed my every move, even though I was out of sight and no it wasn't his sensor arrow as I was too out of range for that. also had a Hanzo shoot me through a wall several times.
I love how they played both of the characters that have hacks as their ultimates
Just noticed that🤣
wait til they play sombra
wouldnt it be funny, if after this game they reported eachother for cheating?
they probably did, cheater dont like other cheater, they want to feel special and seem like they are the best.
@@angerskarin9222 That's not true at all lmao...I feel like everyone in the comments has the most ass backwards thinking of how cheaters think. Cheaters DO NOT give a fuck about the game. They cheat to piss people off and laugh when they make content about it. JUST like this. They want to see their names up on videos/posts and people crying about it. The game is FREE so not like they lose anything from a ban anymore.
I used to be one of them. I promise you LARGE majority of us DO NOT care about the game AT ALL. If we did we would play it legit. Cheaters KNOW we will LOSE the account at some point no matter what. So if we REALLY wanted to "seem better" we wouldn't be losing accounts all the time. We could just use wallhacks and it would take you MUCH longer to figure it out and most likely you'd never even know. People who want to actually climb/get better won't ever use aimbot. Aimbot is GUARANTEED to get you banned sooner than later.
Cheaters cheat because they want to piss you off and ruin your day. That's OUR fun.
@@CrustedPork why do you need to write an essay about how cheating in a game makes you feel like those wolves staring at the moon photos
@@CrustedPork 🤓
@@CrustedPork Lol you're pathetic
In this scenario, the 8 people not cheating shoulda just observed the two cheaters going at it 1v1.
The problem with that is, cheap Walmart hacks will eventually end up locking on the people that you don't want it to! Lol!
That’s where the Reinhardt shield comes in
@@dustbustdetail yeah both tanks on Rein in the front just holding shields so the rest can watch XD
This feels like the two teams became the background characters looking at Goku and Cell fighting eachother
You ever see Roomba fights? Where people strap a sharp object on the front and a balloon in the back and first to pop wins?
We should treat them like that.
I'd love it if the Overwatch devs took all the players who get reported for cheating and put them all on a separate server and see how long it takes for one of the cheaters to post "Overwatch 2 is infested with cheaters" while also cheating.
I wish this is what they did, just put anyone who cheats on a separate server or like queue so it takes longer for them to make a new account, give em higher ping, just ruin their experience subtly.
Those games with exile servers are so much fun to peek into. It’s like walking into an old MW2 lobby with a 6 hour nuke timer, entire screen is shaking by spamming explosives, 3 AC130s in the air.
Like imagine living like that.
That would be such a smart idea tbh. Instead of banning them since the game is free now, just put them all on their own little server so they can keep playing and buying cosmetics lmao
Other games do it like gta5 and riblox's phantom forces
Yeah good idea. Let me just report anyone I don’t like and get them hackerpooled 💀
The first dude actually looked like he had decent mechanics. Unlucky looked like a bronze. How greedy do you have to be man
yeah andrey widow was probably Gold/plat you can tell by movement etc but still obvious cheats. Unlucky covers it up better in the beginning by being dogshit until you realize he's just dogshit.
Bronze? You give him too much credit, if there was a potato rank he'd be in that, he had 0 clue what the game is even about. He only knew what the enemy looked like because his hacks would auto target for him otherwise I think he thought he was in a free for all 1v9
Second had zero game sense. Zero.
@@寝子猫-j4y lol ur bugging if you think a gold plat dps has that kind of map awareness and positioning. Prob a console masters + player who cant aim. Or just someone boosting a mercy player for $$$$$$$$$
@@elijahm9935 yall don't even understand it's sad. "Map awareness" dude has wallhacks lmao. The other dude didn't clearly.
tbf, it's hard to tell if the cheater on your team is cheating cause you wont get to see from their perspective until after the game.. the teammates probably just thought they were smurfs
this!! I haven't placed yet because I don't feel comfortable inflicting my potato pc on others when rank is on the line, but I've been in plat for several seasons so I assume that'll be where I end up in ow2, which is generally the rank where there's a lot of smurfs, so I've never gotten in the habit of assuming anyone is cheating because it seems like a lazy way to just make yourself feel better for dying like an idiot to enemy widow lol
however, I did run into someone who was GM/top 500 but then hadn't played in a couple of years, and I actually feel like I'd be able to spot a cheater now lol
the biggest thing for support players like me to know is that exceptional dps players play more safely than you expect. good widows, for example, typically play near health packs or on high ground where there is an easy escape route to safety. aside from cheeky grapple shots at the beginning of a round, they typically save their grapple to escape. they play like they're not expecting healing because they understand their supports can't always help them (LOS, someone else needing help more, etc). they're aggressive, they'll hold W, but they don't stand out in the open. and if there isn't a wall or something, and they're on a roof or something, they will stand far enough back that they can easily break LOS with the edge of the building by walking backwards.
I play with a lot of dps who think having a mercy who's devoting a lot of resources to them means they can do absolutely bonkers things. good dps players don't do that.
they also don't panic. I played with an excellent widow recently who reacted the exact same way I did on mercy when the enemy team (finally) went Winston to counter: just calmly waited for Winston to jump and then grappled away. they didn't run around using the SMG like it was actually going to scare the Winston away, they didn't stay inside the bubble (not that it would have done anything because mercy can heal through shields), they just grappled a significant distance away and that grapple took them to SAFETY, around a corner so Winston would have to turn the corner to come get us which would break the LOS of Winston's supports.
honestly, seeing that kind of thing for myself, instead of in a video, was the most educational thing ever. it's one thing to watch UA-cam and twitch and hear highly ranked players talk about what good dps do (that cheaters don't) and another thing to see it in your own games.
and this is a mercy specific thing, but I was CERTAIN this person was wayyyy more highly ranked than me when they were aware of me respawning and they walked a couple of steps backwards so I could get back to the fight just a LITTLE bit quicker.
now, obviously, taxi-ing your mercy is generally a good play when you have the time, either because you just respawned yourself or because it's between fights. but this stuck out to me because it showed a smart balance of competing interests: (1) the fight was currently happening so they needed to be in it and contributing value that way but (2) having five people as soon as possible was critical. so they were aware enough to know I was respawning and to know they could just walk a couple steps back without leaving the fight to help me get back.
dps players in my rank are not aware enough to do this. it's an incredibly subtle thing. don't get me wrong, a lot of dps players will taxi me, but it's either because they just respawned before me so they just wait a little outside and let me GA to them or they full on leave the fight to come pick me up which is generally the wrong move, imo.
@@sethescope is this a copy paste wtf
@@Aiiiden. if you don't have the attention span to read and digest more than a few sentences at a time, I could summarize it for you
yeah but a soldier shreading through your team in 10 seconds though, that's no smurf
Agreed except when the killfeed shows a soldier shred 3 players in 4 seconds and the final hit is a headshot on all of them. That is blatant.
If you accuse either of them of cheating.
Their response: "Get Good"😂😂😂
They also have no idea about training, aim mechanics, surface, mice optics, etc.
This actually highlights the difference between good and bad game sense, positioning, awareness, etc. You can have PERFECT mechanics, but if someone else has good mechanics and WAY better game sense, you're toast
That’s why there aren’t a lot of gm hackers
Or just a mercy pocket... the other cheater won since he had a mercy pocket
the widow on the first team was one of the only ‘good’ cheaters i’ve ever seen. all other ones had garbage gamesense and was lost, this person actually looks like they’d be a medium-high rank without cheats… too bad they use them tho.
See, I thought that the anti-cheat was looking for cheaters to ban them, but this whole time they must have been looking for cheaters to face off against each other- that's next level. Just put all the cheaters in a games against each other, over and over.
Be funny if they just made a hackers gamemode. Then they could go wild and we could watch some crazy vids once in a while.
I mean like a hackers comp ladder or something like that. Then they could sell them the cheats and make more $$$$ Actiblizsoft should love that
Thats what I think Titanfall did… when you get banned as a cheater, get another account and cheat on. But as long as I know Titanfall had a shadow ban system, so that a cheater would only play against other cheaters. That way they could do some HvH and let the other players live their life.
To quote Respawn, think of it as a Wimbledon of aimbot contests. Hope you paid top dollar for yours.
@@nevermindthebull0cks There was an ow1 match in Chiness server where 11 out of 12 players are cheating lol. It was actually a really fun replay to watch, they had decent teamworks and special tactics that are usually not seen in regular games. Both team played around their dva and bap, and they just waited around a corner for the bap's field cd, and charge in with both field and dva matrix😂😂😂 The team that has the only legit player actually won the game lol(he posted the replay code and a video)
@@qiyuxuan9437 I get what you mean, it sounds fun.
I would play a game mode where mechanics didn't matter. it would really make you focus on strats, timing and positioning.
I lose most of my fights now because my mechanics aren't great or I lose focus for a second.
I do realize that non shooters are this game mode, but I do like shooters:)
nothing I hate more than a mercy pocketing a cheater
Yeah man, look at the mercy, she definitely knows the Widow is hacking and rezzing/boosting on purpose. Should ban her too.
@@Jifran so i get that its inappropriate behavior, but is it ban-able? Do the rules say anything about continuing to play the game when there is a hacker on your side?
@@Jifran Yeah not gonna lie it's definitely not easy to tell if someone is aimlocking just by them being on your team. As a mercy you pocket the person who has the highest DPS potential. That wouldnt be fair to support players for just helping their team out without knowing they're not playing the game legit.
@@寝子猫-j4y agreed. Like, not everyone knows if someone is cheating or not, I've been playing games for over 2 decades and it's quite easy for me, but if OW is your first FPS then shit like this is hard to understand. Even then, I boosted a cheater for half a game before I realised they were cheating and I felt really stupid. Some hacks are really subtle. So it's really difficult to do.
But if they're on your friends list, then yeah, they know and should be banned as well
@@寝子猫-j4y at their rank Mercys dont usually pocket someone all game, their other players were doing pretty good too and they were not exactly losing the game. It’s hard to think the Mercy wasn’t in on it.
When your entire game is centered around the hacker and you don’t know the hacker, I’d issue a one week ban. If you know them, permaban.
To be fair i think the reason unlucky comes off bad is because their hacks would be pretty hide-able if they just actually knew anything about the map or how to fain knowledge lol. which is why cheating is a serious problem, its not always so blatant
Until the soldier lmao wtf haha
They were new or lower elo I think. Just looked lost and overwhelmed sometimes.
@@nevermindthebull0cks i think unluky is just a new bad player, that instead of learning to play resorts to cheating.
The hother is a experienced cheater, i know exactly wat is cheat do and how to abuse them, plus i has a lot hof game knoledge, so this is probrably is 2-3 acount lol
Feign* ;D
@@squeegel3904 thx haha
What I hate is people just wanna play for fun and these hackers kill the fun no one can/will play because of them but thankfully Blizzard cares and actively takes care of it
They are not cheating, aliens just gave them 1k hz monitor
Precisely. They are also breathing O1000. Super oxygen. Their reaction and control is next level.
No cheats seen.
I had a game where the soldier 76 on enemy team had suspiciously good tracking whenever i peaked a corner and there's no way he should know I'm even there and then i realised he was just blatantly cheating. They pick soldier because people will think it's their ult, and the guy in my game had a pocket dmg mercy too. It's so lame
they pick soldier cause aimbots work best with him.
The mercy probably payed to get boosted
@@kingsarues1586 I don't know, as a low rank Mercy all that usually goes through my mind is "Damage boost whoever is killing the most red guys"
As in, finishing off their kills. Not farming damage numbers off of tanks and plink damage. Im not high enough rank to spot friendly hackers.
Imagine the other 4 people on both teams just watched them 1v1 😂
At 4:33 that slight pause is them flipping the 'hard hacks' switch.
Seen that shit in so many CS:GO games back in the day. They'll just get suspiciously still and quiet for 5-10 seconds and then suddenly your entire team explodes.
Yeah jay you can see at 4:33 he pauses on the stairs for just a moment.. and then comes out hot with the aimbot 😂
Literally had that discussion with a mate the other day. Maybe he watched this vid before bringing it up. If I get a cheater on my team ideally we can pull a draw. If there are cheaters on both teams though it’s the Wild West as far as I’m concerned. May the best cheater win.
Buying hacks = $10K
Being pissed at others for buying hacks = Priceless
I've been wishing for a battle like this to happen and it came true.
Blizzard announced that in the second installment there will be no people who play on hacking programs....
As you can see from this video, Blizzard is lying....
i think the best option for both teams would to have stayed in spawn and make both cheaters 1v1 till the end
"He's not cheating, he just has a expensive gaming chair." Made my Day. My new fav' line ever.
It's been said a million times over the past few years but glad it can make you happy 😊 😃 😀 😄 😁
Bro, idk what's worse the cheaters or the mercy pocketing them.....
E whors bro
Mercy can be banned too, not permanently but she's breaking the rules as well.
@@costa2k1 no she won’t 😭
@@costa2k1 She isnt and she wont LuL, pocketing a cheater isn't bannable if you have no idea that its a cheater
imagine being caught in the middle of a hacker war and the aimbot accidentally tracks you and you die
Its times like these where I wonder if I’ve ever had to face down a hacker and just didn’t know it cause I didn’t watch the game back
Would be nice if Overwatch team would mark your replays with a symbol to let you know there was a cheater in that game. But yeah I wonder how many times their has been cheaters in my games since I’ve been playing for 6 years.
I wonder that too. I've only had like 2 or 3 games in my 4 years of playing OW where it was so obvious I checked the vods for confirmation myself. But there were probably more where it wasn't as obvious and I would've just thought that enemy dps is really good.
At that point just have the cheaters duke it out like a Pokémon battle
Big shout out to Snoozy and Noobsterr for the thumbnail and edits. Great job you two. What I would do though is call for a map draw and then report of both of them. They'll either get banned or enough reports will get Blizzards attention. Great content Jay it was enjoyable to watch.
the fact that 70% of times there is a cheater if u watch replay makes me sad, sad because until they rage people dont reconize them.. so its like 1 game yes and 1 game no, there is a cheater
Went back to watch the replay and watch blackfish's gameplay, hit some clean flicks just unfortunate or even "unlucky" to be against the better hacker
The mercy was hard pocketing the shit out of him lmao.
this is what 10k hours on aim labs looks like
The funny thing is that I’ve been in a game with unlucky and lost
Calling them "hackers" is an insult to hackers. They are cheaters. Nothing more.
Cheater Vs Cheater...I beat one of them said "He cheating that's so unfair"
If sig never took away that barrier at the end then they could of had a chance.
I love that the enemy team knew they had a hacker, and even protected them 💀
Gotta get that one win wdym:D
@@juto8809 yep
i think its the other way around, the teams knew THE OTHER team had a cheater and played accordingly. Mercy only sees the kill count and even then, mercy still played the field, reinhart only sees the other teams cheater and is using the best possible counter he could think of. You expect too much of Rando's.
@@zeedstun891 no, they’re playing together, it was like that the whole game. There’s no way they didn’t know they had a cheater with him aimbotting like that.
@@-_-Matt-_- I'm not gonna lose a game because I have a cheater I don't know with me so yes I'm gonna do my support job and then report AFTER the game.
I'm not gonna waist 15 min for Honor or cute morals.
Cheaters have zero game sense, it's why they easily get outplayed. EZ to kill them once you ID them.
I guess "Defense Matrix" ran out :) Thanks Blizzard!
People cried and cried about sms auth and this is what happens
Wouldn’t be surprised if that mercy was duoing with that cheater.
i saw a lot of people asking what rank this is. it was high plat / low diamond
Good pick with the Ball, dude.
its not true, i was in this game and it was bronze
It's absolutely hilarious when I call out cheaters in the game and they get so offended!!!! Hahahaha. Like, it is so obvious when one player is doing something in ways the other 9 aren't. Such funny interactions.
This was hilarious, I wish we could see the game chat lmao
I mean I don’t think you can get banned by playing with a cheater unless your in a group playing every game together so utilizing a hacker is how you do it
I'm scared I would be a Mercy that didn't realize I'm pocketing a cheater T-T
The fact that these cheaters are in comp make me not want to play the game.
Blizzard doing such a good job stopping cheaters.............eyeroll
love when you see everyone knowin they cheat and they all just sit behind walls.
When everyone has auto aim...no one has auto aim.
What you could do in this scenario is that rest of the 8 players just vibe and let the two cheaters duke it out by themselves, doesn't really matter who wins and should be a quick game since it's a 1v1 at that point.
Hey i remember playing against this “unlucky” guy like 5 days ago!!! We lost our match cuz no one in our team could kill him lol
I swear I've played against them too, playing as widowmaker. I recall the name and the annoyance they gave me was unbearable. I generally hope they actually get rid of cheaters because man does it ruin a good game.
this is basically the 2 top fragging awpers on every CS:GO MM match
They had the absolute best gaming chairs
When the two teams become the background characters in the Goku vs Cell fight
I play with people who don't believe people hack in OW2. They will get a 5k with all perfect head shots in quick play and their like "naw, they just cracked."
just becuase someone hits 5 clean headshots doesnt mean theyre cheating. you have to look at how theyre aiming. flicks are humanly doable, however if the flick is instant its clear hacks.
I remember damage boasting and healing a Widow who was popping off and someone on the enemy team said she's hacking but only 1 person said it and the rest of the enemy team said nothing. So how do I tell mid-game when a teammate is hacking?
And before someone gets mad at me, I still boasted & healed her after being called out as only 1 person said something but I didn't pocket or rez, just in case it was true.
l was in a game with andrey he played gengi and i thought he just has godly aim its nuts that i found this video cause now it shined some light onto the situation lol
Yall remember those spy vs spy comics? Reminds me of that
i love how they wallhacked with widow then used aimbot with soldier 76
As stupid as the match is, and as much as I disapprove of cheating, this is technically a fair match. Both teams have an aimbot+wallhack dps. The way I see it, playing around it is fair game.
it's crazy how people feel the need to cheat
Widow mains are desperate.
For the record, the cheater on team 1 is probably either 7 or 8, since his name says 2014.
@@aland7234 w profile pic
its kind of sad there so many cheaters, I got a few matches now that people can perfectly track my head when im flying around like crazy on mercy.
That Reinhardt was protecting the cheater like he was the president.
damn it's video like this that make me want a full learning AI play on OW to see how insane the game could get XD no human error, pure headshot madness. comp would be so different with perfect aim ^^
To be fair an AI would be better in this scenario to make human like gameplay instead of raw aim. We already got raw headshots with classical cheats and that's what makes them so easy to flag, because they are too perfect.
AI is good for learning strats that humans couldn't have thought of, or attaining pro level cheats that are undetectable because they mimick exactly human behavior
Unlucky got his hacks from wish 😂😂
In this scenario that Mercy deserves a ban too for enabling, they knew every time they rez'd who they were bringing back.
Isn’t it ironic that both the cheaters are only using characters that have in game hacks
Jay your comments and reactions on the game crack me up. Fun to watch! What a couple of dicks these haxors are lol!
lowkey the only reason unlucky lost that game was because his team comp was not built to support a cheater, he had a zen and a ana, zen is just a DPS disguised as a support and ana is a team support not a pocket one, while andreyka had a mercy, the best support to pocket the entire game, dmg boost, constant healing and a revive to correct their mistakes, and you can clearly see the diference, unlucky was allways on timer to respawn while andreyka never spent more then 2 seconds dead, unlucky was just unlucky that game
Gotta love when OW players wanna treat pocket Mercys as someone who is worse than a cheater. They didn't choose to queue with the hacker and its not like Blizzard ever refunds their SR anyway.
"Cheaters are never the smartest people"
That's why they cheat.
And don't forget to report the mercy's pocketing a cheater too
The first cheater seemed like he was actually pretty decent without hacks. He has good positioning (granted he has walls) he knows how to use grapple (isn’t too hard but still) and it looked like he wasn’t using aimbot on widow. He seems like he has at least a few hundred hours but he obviously wasn’t too good if he has to cheat.
He wasnt rage hacking on widow but he clearly is
i feel so bad for their teammates oh ny god 😭😭😭😭
Thank you Sonzaiy for recovering the hacker every time he goes down.
this guy is the type of annoying friend that explains literally everything
This is one of the funniest vids I’ve ever seen hacker wars at it’s finest
Worse than the cheater are those mercy who pocket them
they should add an option to surrender the game as a draw for this type of scenario. basically any player can put up a vote to draw the match and if majority of players votes yes the game ends in a draw
The mercy makes me more angry than the actual hacker...
why? for doing their job?
@@jqpser437 no, for pocketing the cheater
I have ended up doing this on accident before in quick play role queue. It was at the start of the match and to me it looked my soldier was popping off and to their credit, they were doing a good job of hiding their hacks at first. Then they amped it up until it became obvious even to us and then as a result, I convinced my team to throw the game. One of my DPS’s even switched to Mei so they could sabotage them.
I like to imagine unlucky was a retired hacker until this moment where he met another hacker in his games lol
Nobody:
Hacker: Using wall hack on a character that already have wall hack
If there's one thing that hackers have that's bigger than anyone, it's their ego
3:28 Him: oh wait trix is kinda poppin off too
trix: *Pressing Q*
Personally, I don't have much experience with shooters and find it hard to know if they are cheating. In this video it's obvious but sometimes, I have people constantly hitting me with impossible shots and the next moment they derp and only hit bodyshots. Like litterly they shouldnt at all know where I am and they still see me. MAYBE if they were extremely good, but Im bad so they should be too? Then again, matchmaking sucks so I never really know. Also, I think Ive seen Unlucky in a game against me, he was just as derp and obvious with cheating.
The comedy duo, this shit is the funniest thing i v seen in a while
Imagine being so bad at a game that you have to hack 😂
That ball said, nope. Turns back LOL!
2:20 random ult gave it away too
They are not even hiding it anymore
Me on soldier: first few shots hits then recoil kicks in misses the kill
Cheater: all headshots shots with no recoil
4:23 as someone who plays a lot of Mercy, this is when I would have given up on my widow.
listen, I expect that, if someone goes widow, they're going to be able to click heads. I'm not in a super high rank so I also expect some pepega plays from my teammates, just as they should expect some pepega plays from me. so, to me, if someone is getting picks and then also dies in a goofy spot from a goofy play, that isn't going to immediately make me think they're cheating.
if you get too aggressive and die and then waste my res, which is one of the most valuable resources in the game (even more valuable in ow2, imo), by CONTINUING to get aggressive instead of falling back to the rest of the team to regroup?
yeah no, absolutely not. you're still on my team so I'll heal you up when you need it, but I'm not wasting team resources by pocketing you when all you've done up to this point is waste resources and get yourself killed for no reason.
let me be clear: this is different than just making a mistake or dying unnecessarily or in a silly way. that happens to ALL of us. but if this is what you're doing at the start of a round when there's nothing to gain by pushing their spawn by yourself?
I would be the one making a mistake if I continued to devote disproportionate resources to you. I don't need to know you're cheating to know I shouldn't pocket you.
TLDR good dps players don't die like this. they don't play like they're expecting me to bail them out. good dps understand that the role is called SUPPORT, not HEALER, so they don't play with the expectation that I'll always be there to top off their health or that I'll always have res for them/that I'll always decide to use it on them
12:21 the best answer is to talk with the enemy team to throw the game and you will do the same. That way, it’s just a 1v1 of hackers.
Jay the thing you have to keep in mind is the bad cheaters are easy to catch the good ones are damn near impossible to catch
That moment when hacker kills another hacker once, all hell breaks loose. Same thing goes for GTA5 but at the end they always become friends. That is one of the things I like about the gaming world.
If both teams have a cheater, then it's a fair match
Me: " he's cheating"
Literally everone else in the match: he's not cheating you're just bad"
Him:.....
I swear there’s a lot of cheater in overwatch, I can tell people toggle cheats, the annoying part is even you report them they dont get ban
Kinda sus how mercy was pocketing the hacker ngl
watching this confirms to me that the Hanzo that was in my game was hacking, I used my ult on widow and he knew exactly where I was and followed my every move, even though I was out of sight and no it wasn't his sensor arrow as I was too out of range for that. also had a Hanzo shoot me through a wall several times.