On one hand CP3 gives you 95% of what Nash does on offense but still play excellent defense. On the other hand if Nash played today he would be popping twice as many threes as a god-tier shooter. For the modern game I think Nash has a greater upside if you build around his deficiencies. CP3 you can plug into any team in any era and he’d be great.
pierce duncan allen mj (kobe had the closest play style to jordan we've ever seen but c'mon, mj made the nba and is still the greatest player and had barely any flaws apart from only being an average 3 point shooter) stockton vs. kidd would be more interesting to me.
@@jqa16 Even IF PP "got lucky" he still changed his game so that the team could dominate. Put Melo on that team & he would've been worried about his touches & his money? If Melo was able to adapt the way PP did, he wouldn't have sucked in OKC or Houston.
John Stockton...do a breakdown of his game. Man leads the NBA in assists and no one has even got close to his record in career assists. Want to know how he has done it.
CPGoat #3 He played 19 seasons. If that's the only reason he broke a record (hes all time in assists AND steals actually) then 20 year Kobe should have an all time reco- oh wait he does....misses. Ok you're right
@@kokonutbum2328 You replied to a 9 month old comment about something that happened days ago. I hope Kobe fans give you the attention and clout you're looking for.
Quite a few bball channels out there that I like, but there's By Any Means Basketball and then all the others fighting for second. Phenomenal content (analysis, synthesis, music, footage, editing, well-worded text, etc.). Big thanks!!! Keep up the great work!
Nash is a magician with the ball, CP3 just a hard earned elite PG. Nash is fun, CP3 is work. High IQ Nash is talent, CP3 sweat is professional calling.
Better scorer: Paul Better shooter: Nash Better passer: equal Better rebounder: Paul Better defender: Paul Better dribler: Paul More accolades: Nash Making teammates better: Nash This is a really tough one.
@@saitenotoshuitsnaini that actually is a really good point. Being able flop and get calls is a valuable skill. Being a soccer player can also improve some skills that are necessary for basketball.
@@TokyoBalletReprise cp3 averages more assists per game despite coming in to the league at a younger age, he also consistently had fewer turnovers than him. Nash did play more seasons so his apg will drop, but everyone knows by the end of cp3's career he will still have a higher apg. The gap isnt really big so i called it a tie.
I give the edge to Nash based on playoff clutch moments, durability, ability to dominate into his late 30s, and off-court leadership (WAY better teammate & leader). He also didn't get technicals in crucial moments the way CP does. CP is a better all round player (more athletic, much better defender) but Nash showed up in the playoffs. I don't think any Nash team would've choked as hard as the 2013-2015 Clippers. The West was wide open those 2 years and the Clippers were considered championship contenders. Nash never made it past the WCF cuz he was going up against the Spurs and/or Laker dynasties every year.
Good video comparison! Nash was ambidextrous with his left and right hand, he was just as good dribbling and passing with his left hand or right. He had amazing ball control. I don't believe Paul was equal with both his left and right hand dribbling or passing. Ball Control -Nash Pick n roll - Nash/Amare While Paul and Griffen had a great pick n roll, no duo did it better than Nash/Amare, other than very possibly Stockton/Malone. So Nash does better in the majority of those categories. Plus Nash was better performer in playoffs, success/wins, scoring, assists, points, etc.
Steve Nash over Chris Paul by far Made the 2005 WCF with Joe Johnson missing more than half of the 2nd round against Dallas. And the 2006 WCF despite missing Amare for the entire season and playoffs. After reaching the 2006 WCF, Raja Bell was also injured and missed 2 games. The Suns were 2-2 against Dallas when Raja played but 0-2 without him. Had Nash only dealt with one injured starter in Amare rather than both Amare and Bell, they would have had a chance to make the 2006 Finals. All players who averaged 20+ PPG, 10+ APG in multiple playoffs lasting more than 2 rounds - Magic Johnson x3 - 1986, 1987, 1991 - Kevin Johnson x2 - 1989, 1990 - Steve Nash x2 - 2005, 2006 Intangibles - elevating teammates 1. Shawn Marion only has one playoff series of 15+ ppg without Nash, when he averaged 18.5 ppg on 37% in a 1st-round loss to the 2003 Spurs 2. Quentin Richardson never had 10 ppg in a playoff series without Nash 3. Amare Stoudemire had a high of 15.3 ppg in a playoff series without Nash 4. Raja Bell never made the playoffs as a starter without Nash 5. Boris Diaw only has one playoff run of 10+ ppg without Nash, when he averaged 11.6 ppg in a 1st-round loss to the 2015 Clippers Steve Nash has also come the closest to shooting 50/40/90 for a career in the regular season and playoffs. Nash shot 49/43/90 in his regular season career - Curry and Mark Price are the only other career regular season 90% FT shooters - both shot at least 47/40/90 Nash shot 47/40/90 in his playoff career - only player to simultaneously shoot 40/90 for a playoff career The only teams to immediately go from sub-30 wins to at least 2 consecutive Conference Finals are - Kareem's Bucks (1970, 1971, 1972) - Bird's Celtics (1980, 1981, 1982) - KJ's Suns (1989, 1990) - Kidd's Nets (2002, 2003) - Nash's Suns (2005, 2006)
let's debunk the myth that Chris Paul "doesn't have enough help" Chris Paul had - A 20+ ppg teammate in all four of his 2nd-round series exits (2008, 2012, 2014, 2015) - A 22-29 ppg and 10-15 rpg teammate in 5 of his 6 series wins (2012 1st Rd is the exception) - Had Blake/Deandre or Harden/Capela lead all players or tie all leading player on both teams in PPG, RPG, BPG in 4 of his 6 series wins (2014, 2015, 2018 1st Round and 2018 WCSF) The Clippers are - 1-3 in the playoffs when CP3 plays but Griffin does not, against the Jazz - 1-1 in the playoffs when Griffin plays and CP3 does not, while playing against a better team in the Rockets. Some will point to the 2018 Clippers missing the playoffs after Paul left, however every starter other than Deandre Jordan left the team by the end of the season, and even with countless injuries they maintained a winning 42-40 record with a severely injury-depleted team. The 2014 Clippers were 13-7 (0.650 win%) without Chris Paul when Blake and Deandre were healthy. The only time that Chris Paul had to maintain his playoff stats for more than 2 rounds, he failed to lead his team in any playoff category besides fouls for the 2018 Rockets and averaged a career playoff low 5.8 APG.
Good analysis - the only ones I would question is I believe Nash has a slight edge in mid-range shooting and also I would give him the nod in pick n roll as I think the edge you gave Paul can also be attributed to more advanced offensive schemes of this era he plays in
Kevin Johnson is better than both and is rarely discussed. Kevin Johnson's Playoff records 1. NBA records for most playoff runs (ppg-apg) of - 20-8 past the 1st Round (5) - 21-8 past the 1st Round (5) - 20-9 past the 1st Round (5) - 21-9 past the 1st Round (5) - 22-8 past the 1st Round (4) - 23-8 past the 1st Round (4) - 22-9 past the 1st Round (4) - 23-9 past the 1st Round (4) - 24-8 past the 1st Round (2) - T-with Isiah, Oscar, Westbrook - 24-9 past the 1st Round (2) - 22-10 past the 1st Round (2) - 23-10 past the 1st Round (2) - 22-11 past the 1st Round (2) - 23-11 past the 1st Round (2) 2. Only player to average - 22-12 or 23-12 in a playoff run past the 2nd round 3. 2nd all-time, behind Magic Johnson, in playoff runs (ppg-apg) of - 20-10 past the 1st Round (3) - 21-10 past the 1st Round (2) - 21-11 past the 1st Round (2) - 20-9 past the 2nd round (2) - T-with Nash - 21-9 past the 2nd round (2) - 20-10 past the 2nd round (2) - T-with Nash - 21-10 past the 2nd round (2) ______________________________________________________________________ Chris Paul's Playoff Records Highest AST:TO ratio of a player who averaged 11+ apg past the 1st round - 2008 - 6.136 to 1 AST:TO ratio (135 assists, 22 turnovers) but multiple players have higher AST:TO ratios when averaging less APG - Fat Lever, 1988 - 12.25 AST:TO ratio past 1st Rd (no minimum APG requirement) - Spud Webb, 1986 - 6.50 AST:TO ratio past 1st Rd (minimum >7 APG) - Johnny Moore, 1982 - 6.20 AST:TO ratio past 1st Rd (minimum 8, 9, or 10 APG)
When the video talks about the best P&R combination in NBA history actually the one that came to my mind was more Paul/Chandler with the hornets... But I guess Griffin diverse skillset must be a better complement.
If you look at it offensively, I’d say Nash takes it. But if you’re saying an all-around aspect, CP3 got it. I’m stuck on who I’d take as a franchise player
CP3 by a margin and it's not close. Nash had always had the better team. Durability is the only thing that keeps Paul complacent. Ppl overlook how good CP3 is because of him not having a ring or MVP's but name another PG that's been consistent efficiently on a PER scale for over a decade with the same level of effectiveness on both sides of the ball not to mention the best assist to turn over ratio of ALL TIME. This man literally can bring the worse team in the league to the playoffs or +10 to +15 over .500 even post injury to presently on a decline by father time that says a lot of just his IQ and overall abilities alone. Ring or not when it's all said and done he will go down as a top 3 of not the best PG of all time alone by the numbers across the board. Don't get me wrong Nash flourished in the D'Antoine modern day system. Imagine a prime CP3 with the likes of the same coaching and system around him earlier in his career. He was already carrying a non playoff team all them yrs back in NO while putting up unreal stats for his size and position in which he should've won an MVP in 08 no contest and that statement is obviously coming from a Kobe fan lol
Basketball is cool I know its your thing and you're the best in the business. Have you ever thought of putting up boxing content? Like By Any Means Boxing, that channel would be so DOPE!
CP is no joke but struggles to stay healthy and doesn’t show up in the playoffs. Nash consistently had amazing duels in the playoffs against the Kobe’s Lakers and Duncan’s Spurs.
The only playoff success CP has had was the first round series when they beat the Spurs in seven games. First round. Which was pre-Kawhi. Steve Nash went to multiple Western Conference Finals, consistently averaging 20 and 10 while shooting in the 50/40/90 club in the playoffs. He has beat Kobe’s lakers in series’, and Duncan’s spurs in series. The Suns didn’t have playoff series after playoff series end because Nash got hurt, that’s literally CP’s case every year. No doubt CP is great but when it comes to durability in the playoffs he doesn’t hold a candle to Steve Nash.
Pre kawhi? they beat the spurs in 2015 the year after kawaii won finals mvp He also beat Dirks mavs in the playoffs AS WELL AS THE WARRIORS although it was before the warriors of now it still had all those building blocks on the team. Do you not remember his series against OKC? he was great in that. or last season in the WCF HE WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE SERIES FOR THE FIRST 5 GAMES. What are you talking about
Nash with the green light in today’s game would be a mixture of currys shooting and rondos passing . Nash was and would be the better offensive player. He was simply limited by his era
I’m a have to go with Nash 2x mvp, and IMO he run pick in roll better than cp3. Cp3 hold the ball too much also Nash decision making was slightway quicker imo
Definitely too close to call, I do wish like people are saying that we could’ve seen Steve Nash today feeling like he could take over the game but I’m also not sure if that’s how he’s wired, whereas Paul lives for those moments. Who knows, Steve might’ve worn himself out quicker if he had been more aggressive too with his back problems.
It's a close one. I believe offense is way more important than defense, and Nash's offense would have been even better if playing today given his shooting. However, his defense wasn't just bad; it was historically awful! I would have liked to see him on a team and with a coach that promoted defense more (any other team than Dallas and Houston, right?). Could his defensive effect have been merely Curry-level? We'll never know. Nash seems like a much better teammate on and off the court, but it's not like either one of these guys were big winners. So, I'll put them in the same tier. Both fantastic players!
i guess when all the new and better knowledge and understanding of the game gets passed on you create a better version of yourself and thus Steve helped create Chirs Paul.
More points, more assists, less turnovers, more rebounds, much better defender. What is Nash better at giving the ball to two +20ppg scorers and shooter? Nash is a top ten point but he wasn't making 1st team over Kidd for a reason.
William Jackson pretty sure he made it to first team both years he won MVP... Nash easily the best offensive PG since magic. 50/40/90 shooter, easily the best passer alongside kidd too. & he Had the the ability to use the threat of a jumpshot to open up lanes where as kidd was just an amazing passer/defender. Nash was the whole offensive packag
I say Nash was a better offensive player. But if I'm putting together a team, Chris Paul 10/10 times. Nash might be slightly better at the offensive end, but you can clone and fuse 2 Steve Nash into one person and CP3 is still a better defender.
Even though Chris Paul excels defensively and Nash is virtually inept, availability is an ability, and I think it needs to be mentioned here. So often, Chris Paul finds himself injured at crucial junctures in the playoffs. I know it isn't his fault per se, but it doesn't excuse his absences or help his team.
Surprised he gave the pick and roll edge to cp3. I still think cp3 is better overall but I personally like Nash more. I also think Nash is a better leader. Also Nash overcame a lot of odds with only having 1 offer, went to a mid major. Love both players, both are pass first. I didn’t know Nash averaged that many turnovers that caught me off guard
It is an embarrassment that you weighed defense (exactly half of the game) the same as all of these sub-categories of offensive Chris Paul is an all time great defensive guard and also does everything Nash does on the offensive end. I like Nash but there is no competition here.
Defense is key to championship so if it weren't for a bit of bad luck for CP3 he would've won it. This would hv shown that defense is the skill that truly separate him from Nash. However, Nash can play with any teammates while CP3 has a diff type of personality which may get on other teammates' nerves. So again very even. I tend to want to play with Nash more for having fun.
I think Chris Paul is the better overall player & his defense gives him the edge too. Paul has really elevated his scoring now playing with d’antoni cause he’s now a better scorer & has added the off the dribble pull-up 3 to his game.
Chris Paul. The game is 50% offense and 50% defense. This isn’t football where you only play one side of the ball. Respect to all the guys that carry offenses but when a guy carries an offense while being a great defensive player that’s next level shit right there.
Steve nash is the better player in every category but defense and (ball handling slightly) better jumper, passer, almost a Tony Parker around the rim etc
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Love Nash but I wouldnt say it's that close. Other than 3pt shooting, the checkmarks that Nash got were slightly better or both equally elite but Nash is more creative or something like with Passing and Finishing. CP3 is a far superior defender and just as good, if not better, at everything other than 3pt shooting
Arguably Shaq should of won 05' MVP and Kobe should of won 06'. I say Nash deserves at least one of those MVPs but the league was trying to clean up its image after the Malice in the Palace and Nash seemed like a more advertiser friendly MVP compared to rape trial Kobe & loudmouthed Shaq. Also CP3 should of won 08' MVP over Kobe.
Ceasar Drake Many things are arguable, like arguably Nash could have won 3 MVP's. Kobe had a great season individually, but he didn't propel his team to many victories that year. Shaq had a good year but the majority of mvp voters thought Nash was the most valuable player. Shaq is butthurt that he didn't win that year, and that Nash has 1 more than him. Shaq is not a gracious loser. Shaq may be better all-time than Nash, but Nash was a more valuable player to his teams success and won more those 3 years , 2005/06/07, than Shaq or Kobe. An mvp is for that year only, not a players career. Nash was better than both by majority vote those 3 years and came second to Dirk in '07.
People don't realize that not all categories are created equal. Yes CP3 has better defense, so what? You can always hide Nash defensively and still win(07 was rigged, otherwise Nash would've got his ring) Also Nash upgrades his teammates much more than CP3, is a better leader for the team. To me these intangible aspect is what truly separate the two. Nash is better.
I agree that the psychological factor is very important. Last week my friend played against me in a 3 vs. 3 matchup. His teammates were always shouting at him, screaming at him where to go/what to do. He was very pissed and decided to switch teams, because he couldn't handle them. When he switched to my team, his game became better, he hit more shots, played good defense etc. If you have a PG, who is able to make you play better, the game makes much more fun and it is easier to get good because lf your mindset. Do you guys have similiar experiences?
They are so close offensively that it can go either way, but cp3 is light years ahead of nash on defense, which gives him the edge. I don't see how you can pick nash
I'd take Nash, don't get me wrong CP3 is NASTY and from a technical stand point hes a better player but Nash was a far better playoff performer, more durable and he didn't have the habit of getting costly techs like CP did. Nash was a better leader and teammate (on and off the court) as well. Nash has so many intangibles that puts him slightly above CP3 imo.
On one hand CP3 gives you 95% of what Nash does on offense but still play excellent defense. On the other hand if Nash played today he would be popping twice as many threes as a god-tier shooter.
For the modern game I think Nash has a greater upside if you build around his deficiencies. CP3 you can plug into any team in any era and he’d be great.
M0ebius all facts
Man that’s a damn good analysis but who do you go with if you had to choose
Nash would basically be an efficient Trae Young
I still take CP3. Both greats though
Perfect summary
Next video: Chris Paul vs Rajon Rondo
(And Brandon Ingram) lol
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Paul Pierce vs Melo
KG vs Duncan
Ray Allen vs Reggie
MJ vs Kobe
Kobe-T mac
pierce
duncan
allen
mj (kobe had the closest play style to jordan we've ever seen but c'mon, mj made the nba and is still the greatest player and had barely any flaws apart from only being an average 3 point shooter)
stockton vs. kidd would be more interesting to me.
Pp and Melo basically same player PP just got lucky he has 3 hofers besides him and that's no disrespect to him.
Truth >>>> Melo, Duncan slightly better than KG, Ray Allen > Reggie, MJ >>>>>>> Kobe
@@jqa16 Even IF PP "got lucky" he still changed his game so that the team could dominate. Put Melo on that team & he would've been worried about his touches & his money? If Melo was able to adapt the way PP did, he wouldn't have sucked in OKC or Houston.
when you see Paul decelerates for his best-seller stepback pull up, you know it's going to cost him a round in the playoff string.
Nash's pull up from the mid range definitely reminds me of what Kobe would've done. Crazy how some legends play alike.
John Stockton...do a breakdown of his game. Man leads the NBA in assists and no one has even got close to his record in career assists. Want to know how he has done it.
I mean he played for 50 yrs, averaged 9-14 asst and rarely got injured so.
CPGoat #3 He played 19 seasons. If that's the only reason he broke a record (hes all time in assists AND steals actually) then 20 year Kobe should have an all time reco- oh wait he does....misses. Ok you're right
@@mikeruck2888 stop hating man Kobe's gone now
@@kokonutbum2328 You replied to a 9 month old comment about something that happened days ago. I hope Kobe fans give you the attention and clout you're looking for.
@@mikeruck2888 I just discovered this video a few minutes ago
Quite a few bball channels out there that I like, but there's By Any Means Basketball and then all the others fighting for second. Phenomenal content (analysis, synthesis, music, footage, editing, well-worded text, etc.). Big thanks!!! Keep up the great work!
Nash was a top 5 shooter ever don't @ me
Yimba Iyoko fuck no
50/40/90 four times. Bird had two. And nobody else more than one.
unclebobrules72 he’s not better than curry Allen klay Reggie you can put him right there at number 5 but I got Kerr there
I like your list, but Kerr shot about 2.2 times per game. Too low for me. There are nothing to write home about Nash 5.2, but it's way more.
@@369pendulum man lowkey reddick is probably top 10 all time, he's so underrated
Nash is a magician with the ball, CP3 just a hard earned elite PG. Nash is fun, CP3 is work. High IQ Nash is talent, CP3 sweat is professional calling.
Bullshit lol, CP3 is a magician too, Top 5 best handle in the league right now and Top 3 IQ
Better scorer: Paul
Better shooter: Nash
Better passer: equal
Better rebounder: Paul
Better defender: Paul
Better dribler: Paul
More accolades: Nash
Making teammates better: Nash
This is a really tough one.
the better flopper: paul
the better troller: nash
one is a soccer player, the other is a bowler.
@@saitenotoshuitsnaini that actually is a really good point. Being able flop and get calls is a valuable skill. Being a soccer player can also improve some skills that are necessary for basketball.
Zero Better passer: Nash
Zero Better passer: Nash
@@TokyoBalletReprise cp3 averages more assists per game despite coming in to the league at a younger age, he also consistently had fewer turnovers than him. Nash did play more seasons so his apg will drop, but everyone knows by the end of cp3's career he will still have a higher apg. The gap isnt really big so i called it a tie.
absolutely fantastic videos on this channel. Keep it up !
Great video as always. Your videos have helped so much in making me a better overall basketball player
I wish to see a Kyrie - Curry comparism
Mbunganu Lewiston yessssss
The only thing kyrie has against curry is his handles. When it comes to shooting curry is obviously on another planet.
Christian De Castro finishing , defense
Kevin Toto no just finishing and handles he is not a better defender
Mbunganu Lewiston Curry is better at everything except handling, but that’s still close
great video man !!
Thank you for taking the time to make it.
I give the edge to Nash based on playoff clutch moments, durability, ability to dominate into his late 30s, and off-court leadership (WAY better teammate & leader). He also didn't get technicals in crucial moments the way CP does. CP is a better all round player (more athletic, much better defender) but Nash showed up in the playoffs. I don't think any Nash team would've choked as hard as the 2013-2015 Clippers. The West was wide open those 2 years and the Clippers were considered championship contenders. Nash never made it past the WCF cuz he was going up against the Spurs and/or Laker dynasties every year.
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Dope vid as always
Good video comparison!
Nash was ambidextrous with his left and right hand, he was just as good dribbling and passing with his left hand or right. He had amazing ball control. I don't believe Paul was equal with both his left and right hand dribbling or passing.
Ball Control -Nash
Pick n roll - Nash/Amare
While Paul and Griffen had a great pick n roll, no duo did it better than Nash/Amare,
other than very possibly Stockton/Malone.
So Nash does better in the majority of those categories. Plus Nash was better performer in playoffs, success/wins, scoring, assists, points, etc.
Steve Nash over Chris Paul by far
Made the 2005 WCF with Joe Johnson missing more than half of the 2nd round against Dallas. And the 2006 WCF despite missing Amare for the entire season and playoffs.
After reaching the 2006 WCF, Raja Bell was also injured and missed 2 games. The Suns were 2-2 against Dallas when Raja played but 0-2 without him. Had Nash only dealt with one injured starter in Amare rather than both Amare and Bell, they would have had a chance to make the 2006 Finals.
All players who averaged 20+ PPG, 10+ APG in multiple playoffs lasting more than 2 rounds
- Magic Johnson x3 - 1986, 1987, 1991
- Kevin Johnson x2 - 1989, 1990
- Steve Nash x2 - 2005, 2006
Intangibles - elevating teammates
1. Shawn Marion only has one playoff series of 15+ ppg without Nash, when he averaged 18.5 ppg on 37% in a 1st-round loss to the 2003 Spurs
2. Quentin Richardson never had 10 ppg in a playoff series without Nash
3. Amare Stoudemire had a high of 15.3 ppg in a playoff series without Nash
4. Raja Bell never made the playoffs as a starter without Nash
5. Boris Diaw only has one playoff run of 10+ ppg without Nash, when he averaged 11.6 ppg in a 1st-round loss to the 2015 Clippers
Steve Nash has also come the closest to shooting 50/40/90 for a career in the regular season and playoffs.
Nash shot 49/43/90 in his regular season career
- Curry and Mark Price are the only other career regular season 90% FT shooters
- both shot at least 47/40/90
Nash shot 47/40/90 in his playoff career
- only player to simultaneously shoot 40/90 for a playoff career
The only teams to immediately go from sub-30 wins to at least 2 consecutive Conference Finals are
- Kareem's Bucks (1970, 1971, 1972)
- Bird's Celtics (1980, 1981, 1982)
- KJ's Suns (1989, 1990)
- Kidd's Nets (2002, 2003)
- Nash's Suns (2005, 2006)
let's debunk the myth that Chris Paul "doesn't have enough help"
Chris Paul had
- A 20+ ppg teammate in all four of his 2nd-round series exits (2008, 2012, 2014, 2015)
- A 22-29 ppg and 10-15 rpg teammate in 5 of his 6 series wins (2012 1st Rd is the exception)
- Had Blake/Deandre or Harden/Capela lead all players or tie all leading player on both teams in PPG, RPG, BPG in 4 of his 6 series wins (2014, 2015, 2018 1st Round and 2018 WCSF)
The Clippers are
- 1-3 in the playoffs when CP3 plays but Griffin does not, against the Jazz
- 1-1 in the playoffs when Griffin plays and CP3 does not, while playing against a better team in the Rockets.
Some will point to the 2018 Clippers missing the playoffs after Paul left, however every starter other than Deandre Jordan left the team by the end of the season, and even with countless injuries they maintained a winning 42-40 record with a severely injury-depleted team. The 2014 Clippers were 13-7 (0.650 win%) without Chris Paul when Blake and Deandre were healthy.
The only time that Chris Paul had to maintain his playoff stats for more than 2 rounds, he failed to lead his team in any playoff category besides fouls for the 2018 Rockets and averaged a career playoff low 5.8 APG.
Honestly Trae Young
David Gonzales god i hope u are being sarcastic
That background music bumping 😵🔥🔥
Still Waiting on that Kyle Lowry Attention to Detail!
We need thisss
Keys: Choke in playoffs
Facts
Keep waitin lol nobody wanna see that
Jules that aged well
I love these beats keep up the good work
Great video. However, I would give the edge to Nash for the pick and roll.
PnR Nash. And passing is even. CP3 has the best assist-to-turnover ration in the history of the league.
Where's the Chris Paul attention to detaill , miss this one so much
Good analysis - the only ones I would question is I believe Nash has a slight edge in mid-range shooting and also I would give him the nod in pick n roll as I think the edge you gave Paul can also be attributed to more advanced offensive schemes of this era he plays in
Shit that's a tough one especially pick & roll and passing game.
I’d have to take Nash here. He was always clutch in the playoffs with a ton of big shots in big moments. And he did much more with less tools
Kevin Johnson is better than both and is rarely discussed.
Kevin Johnson's Playoff records
1. NBA records for most playoff runs (ppg-apg) of
- 20-8 past the 1st Round (5)
- 21-8 past the 1st Round (5)
- 20-9 past the 1st Round (5)
- 21-9 past the 1st Round (5)
- 22-8 past the 1st Round (4)
- 23-8 past the 1st Round (4)
- 22-9 past the 1st Round (4)
- 23-9 past the 1st Round (4)
- 24-8 past the 1st Round (2) - T-with Isiah, Oscar, Westbrook
- 24-9 past the 1st Round (2)
- 22-10 past the 1st Round (2)
- 23-10 past the 1st Round (2)
- 22-11 past the 1st Round (2)
- 23-11 past the 1st Round (2)
2. Only player to average
- 22-12 or 23-12 in a playoff run past the 2nd round
3. 2nd all-time, behind Magic Johnson, in playoff runs (ppg-apg) of
- 20-10 past the 1st Round (3)
- 21-10 past the 1st Round (2)
- 21-11 past the 1st Round (2)
- 20-9 past the 2nd round (2) - T-with Nash
- 21-9 past the 2nd round (2)
- 20-10 past the 2nd round (2) - T-with Nash
- 21-10 past the 2nd round (2)
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Chris Paul's Playoff Records
Highest AST:TO ratio of a player who averaged 11+ apg past the 1st round
- 2008
- 6.136 to 1 AST:TO ratio (135 assists, 22 turnovers)
but multiple players have higher AST:TO ratios when averaging less APG
- Fat Lever, 1988 - 12.25 AST:TO ratio past 1st Rd (no minimum APG requirement)
- Spud Webb, 1986 - 6.50 AST:TO ratio past 1st Rd (minimum >7 APG)
- Johnny Moore, 1982 - 6.20 AST:TO ratio past 1st Rd (minimum 8, 9, or 10 APG)
2 of the best point guards to play this lovely game. Please don’t @ me; personal opinion.
I'm sad I missed seeing Steve Nash play. These sort of videos showing off some incredible skills of the past great.
When the video talks about the best P&R combination in NBA history actually the one that came to my mind was more Paul/Chandler with the hornets... But I guess Griffin diverse skillset must be a better complement.
nash was more complete,more reliable in durability,and a better leader to me. Even if it's close the 2 MVP gets it done
Cp3 got robbed one in 08
Cp3 was the more complete are u dumb
If you look at it offensively, I’d say Nash takes it. But if you’re saying an all-around aspect, CP3 got it. I’m stuck on who I’d take as a franchise player
i love cp3 but id still pick nash over him because of durability.
That first track is bumpin bro. What song is it exactly? I looked them up and couldn’t find that track
CP3 by a margin and it's not close. Nash had always had the better team. Durability is the only thing that keeps Paul complacent. Ppl overlook how good CP3 is because of him not having a ring or MVP's but name another PG that's been consistent efficiently on a PER scale for over a decade with the same level of effectiveness on both sides of the ball not to mention the best assist to turn over ratio of ALL TIME. This man literally can bring the worse team in the league to the playoffs or +10 to +15 over .500 even post injury to presently on a decline by father time that says a lot of just his IQ and overall abilities alone. Ring or not when it's all said and done he will go down as a top 3 of not the best PG of all time alone by the numbers across the board. Don't get me wrong Nash flourished in the D'Antoine modern day system. Imagine a prime CP3 with the likes of the same coaching and system around him earlier in his career. He was already carrying a non playoff team all them yrs back in NO while putting up unreal stats for his size and position in which he should've won an MVP in 08 no contest and that statement is obviously coming from a Kobe fan lol
i agree
and that 2 mvps nash won should belong to kobe or shaq
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Fuckin facts prime cp3 is a problem. No debate at all
Nash is easily the most underrated shooter of his generation but need that defense going with prime paul over prime nash
Next one KG vs Tim Ducan Ultimate pf or sg Kobe and Tmac
Nice breakdown
Basketball is cool I know its your thing and you're the best in the business. Have you ever thought of putting up boxing content? Like By Any Means Boxing, that channel would be so DOPE!
Grew up idolizing Chris Paul and Steve Nash as a kid but might have to give the edge to Paul because of his amazing effects on defense
Honestly I don’t want to say chris Paul because I haven’t at all watched enough Steve Nash as I had chris Paul so... really don’t know
CP is no joke but struggles to stay healthy and doesn’t show up in the playoffs. Nash consistently had amazing duels in the playoffs against the Kobe’s Lakers and Duncan’s Spurs.
Quinn Van den Heuvel Durability!!! That’s a great point.
yeah durability is the category where cp3 falls off.he just can't stay healthy in playoffs.
CP literally has some of the best stats ever in playoff history. what are you talking about
The only playoff success CP has had was the first round series when they beat the Spurs in seven games. First round. Which was pre-Kawhi. Steve Nash went to multiple Western Conference Finals, consistently averaging 20 and 10 while shooting in the 50/40/90 club in the playoffs. He has beat Kobe’s lakers in series’, and Duncan’s spurs in series. The Suns didn’t have playoff series after playoff series end because Nash got hurt, that’s literally CP’s case every year. No doubt CP is great but when it comes to durability in the playoffs he doesn’t hold a candle to Steve Nash.
Pre kawhi? they beat the spurs in 2015 the year after kawaii won finals mvp He also beat Dirks mavs in the playoffs AS WELL AS THE WARRIORS although it was before the warriors of now it still had all those building blocks on the team. Do you not remember his series against OKC? he was great in that. or last season in the WCF HE WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE SERIES FOR THE FIRST 5 GAMES. What are you talking about
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Nash with the green light in today’s game would be a mixture of currys shooting and rondos passing . Nash was and would be the better offensive player. He was simply limited by his era
Nash should get pick and roll
I’m a have to go with Nash 2x mvp, and IMO he run pick in roll better than cp3. Cp3 hold the ball too much also Nash decision making was slightway quicker imo
Definitely too close to call, I do wish like people are saying that we could’ve seen Steve Nash today feeling like he could take over the game but I’m also not sure if that’s how he’s wired, whereas Paul lives for those moments. Who knows, Steve might’ve worn himself out quicker if he had been more aggressive too with his back problems.
People in the comments using MVPs as a point are ridiculous. KD only has one, does that make Nash or Paul better than he is?
It's a close one. I believe offense is way more important than defense, and Nash's offense would have been even better if playing today given his shooting. However, his defense wasn't just bad; it was historically awful! I would have liked to see him on a team and with a coach that promoted defense more (any other team than Dallas and Houston, right?). Could his defensive effect have been merely Curry-level? We'll never know. Nash seems like a much better teammate on and off the court, but it's not like either one of these guys were big winners. So, I'll put them in the same tier. Both fantastic players!
i guess when all the new and better knowledge and understanding of the game gets passed on you create a better version of yourself and thus Steve helped create Chirs Paul.
Ayyye nice vid bro do Tracy and Paul George
It's CP3 all day for unless compare to Magic. 💯💯💯💯✊🏾
I’m with Nash
Can you do a Steph vs. Kyrie comparison
The disrespect is real don’t forget Nash is a two time back to back MVP
puma duma he didn’t deserve those lol but I get your point
More points, more assists, less turnovers, more rebounds, much better defender. What is Nash better at giving the ball to two +20ppg scorers and shooter? Nash is a top ten point but he wasn't making 1st team over Kidd for a reason.
nash was trash on defense..
William Jackson pretty sure he made it to first team both years he won MVP... Nash easily the best offensive PG since magic. 50/40/90 shooter, easily the best passer alongside kidd too. & he Had the the ability to use the threat of a jumpshot to open up lanes where as kidd was just an amazing passer/defender. Nash was the whole offensive packag
MVP is misleading sometimes even if you're the mvp it doesnt mean you're the best player in the league you're Valuable player but not the best player
Editing is too god like
I say Nash was a better offensive player. But if I'm putting together a team, Chris Paul 10/10 times. Nash might be slightly better at the offensive end, but you can clone and fuse 2 Steve Nash into one person and CP3 is still a better defender.
Even though Chris Paul excels defensively and Nash is virtually inept, availability is an ability, and I think it needs to be mentioned here. So often, Chris Paul finds himself injured at crucial junctures in the playoffs. I know it isn't his fault per se, but it doesn't excuse his absences or help his team.
Surprised he gave the pick and roll edge to cp3. I still think cp3 is better overall but I personally like Nash more. I also think Nash is a better leader. Also Nash overcame a lot of odds with only having 1 offer, went to a mid major. Love both players, both are pass first. I didn’t know Nash averaged that many turnovers that caught me off guard
gotta go cp3 on this one. extremely close offensively, but much better defensively and at protecting the ball
Calling it now. Blake griffin video coming today or tomorrow
It is an embarrassment that you weighed defense (exactly half of the game) the same as all of these sub-categories of offensive
Chris Paul is an all time great defensive guard and also does everything Nash does on the offensive end. I like Nash but there is no competition here.
9:17 Ahahaha that's not chris paul in this video
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Defense is key to championship so if it weren't for a bit of bad luck for CP3 he would've won it. This would hv shown that defense is the skill that truly separate him from Nash. However, Nash can play with any teammates while CP3 has a diff type of personality which may get on other teammates' nerves. So again very even. I tend to want to play with Nash more for having fun.
Steve Nash for offense, Chris Paul for defense!
I think Chris Paul is the better overall player & his defense gives him the edge too. Paul has really elevated his scoring now playing with d’antoni cause he’s now a better scorer & has added the off the dribble pull-up 3 to his game.
KL vs PG pls great video btw
Dont think cp3 is better. Nash improved the Suns so much
like videos keep up the work!!!!
Chris Paul. The game is 50% offense and 50% defense. This isn’t football where you only play one side of the ball. Respect to all the guys that carry offenses but when a guy carries an offense while being a great defensive player that’s next level shit right there.
Steve nash is the better player in every category but defense and (ball handling slightly) better jumper, passer, almost a Tony Parker around the rim etc
@attentiontodetail do you think Dennis Smith jr has bad landing mechanics? I just came from the Dennis vs fox video and I love Dennis. If so we all need to try our best to get him to know it so he can work on it. Nobody here wants to see another tragic Derrick rose series of events. Let’s help a brother out especially with all the social media and easy ability to link up with someone.
Love Nash but I wouldnt say it's that close. Other than 3pt shooting, the checkmarks that Nash got were slightly better or both equally elite but Nash is more creative or something like with Passing and Finishing. CP3 is a far superior defender and just as good, if not better, at everything other than 3pt shooting
I give the slight edge to Cp3 because hes a better defender and more shifty along with him being one of the best pick and roll players ever
midrange CP3
passing both
Deron Williams attention to detail.
can you do a Isiah Thomas attention to detail ( zeek form pistons)
Yo why you dont make a video about KD or KD vs someone? Ot will be great
KD vs Python would be good
The stats on Paul's fg% and assists are skewed as he didn't have many options to pass to during his time with the Hornets
Arguably Shaq should of won 05' MVP and Kobe should of won 06'. I say Nash deserves at least one of those MVPs but the league was trying to clean up its image after the Malice in the Palace and Nash seemed like a more advertiser friendly MVP compared to rape trial Kobe & loudmouthed Shaq. Also CP3 should of won 08' MVP over Kobe.
Ceasar Drake Many things are arguable, like arguably Nash could have won 3 MVP's. Kobe had a great season individually, but he didn't propel his team to many victories that year. Shaq had a good year but the majority of mvp voters thought Nash was the most valuable player. Shaq is butthurt that he didn't win that year, and that Nash has 1 more than him. Shaq is not a gracious loser. Shaq may be better all-time than Nash, but Nash was a more valuable player to his teams success and won more those 3 years , 2005/06/07, than Shaq or Kobe. An mvp is for that year only, not a players career. Nash was better than both by majority vote those 3 years and came second to Dirk in '07.
Who has more championships? And what are their teammates opinions?
Do Wall vs Westbrook please!
You have to award Paul if we're going by the checks. Paul has 4 plus the tie and Nash has 3 plus the tie.
chris paul no question. one of he best defensive pgs alltime
People don't realize that not all categories are created equal. Yes CP3 has better defense, so what? You can always hide Nash defensively and still win(07 was rigged, otherwise Nash would've got his ring) Also Nash upgrades his teammates much more than CP3, is a better leader for the team. To me these intangible aspect is what truly separate the two. Nash is better.
I agree that the psychological factor is very important. Last week my friend played against me in a 3 vs. 3 matchup. His teammates were always shouting at him, screaming at him where to go/what to do. He was very pissed and decided to switch teams, because he couldn't handle them. When he switched to my team, his game became better, he hit more shots, played good defense etc. If you have a PG, who is able to make you play better, the game makes much more fun and it is easier to get good because lf your mindset. Do you guys have similiar experiences?
these are all things that u have to back up with facts. Nothing u said was factual if u cant actually prove them.
They are so close offensively that it can go either way, but cp3 is light years ahead of nash on defense, which gives him the edge. I don't see how you can pick nash
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I got 2 words for you: Steve Nash and Chris Paul must see TV!
Steve Nash is a better teammate
Bro what’s the name of the second beat???
Michael Nelson did they tell you what the Isley groove with you beat was? I want to know too.
Cp3 is better imo given that his defense is astronomically better and is a lot safer with the ball averaging way less turnovers
Agree with everything except PNR..no one ran a PNR like Nash..always found something..always
Nash perfected the pick and roll with Amare in PHX. They were literally unstoppable. Not sure how the fuck Chris Paul gets the mark for that
To me: nash is better in pick N roll
forgot ab the fighting category
I'd take Nash, don't get me wrong CP3 is NASTY and from a technical stand point hes a better player but Nash was a far better playoff performer, more durable and he didn't have the habit of getting costly techs like CP did. Nash was a better leader and teammate (on and off the court) as well.
Nash has so many intangibles that puts him slightly above CP3 imo.
Chris Paul and this shouldn't even be a question
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You are probably 9 years old and have never watched Steve Nash played before
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