"Paramount Plus" ""Archie Sonic" Look I get that the titles that way for algorithms since new Sonic movie things dropped but those two aren't the same sonics.
@@MichaellaHermosa-hn7vhI will try, but fair warning. I am not all out fan for Sonic and Flash since i know facts i happen to find out on the internet or using Death Battle. *ahem Since Super Emrald was shatter, the timeline jumped into diffrent course of action and fight we were viewing started to decay. And since Wally Flash can control his own molecules, vibrate in frequencies that normally wouldn't know and shatter the Emrald so he wouldn't be invicible as a Super Sonic, started to kill him in many diffrent universe and timelines until he ceased to existence.
ye right... this battle gets debunked by the fact that they tell us that flash can time travel while sonic cant? give me a break! also flash as wally west isnt as strong as archie ultra sonic he Varies with speed, up to Low Multiversal, higher with Speed Steal. Low Complex Multiversal with Environmental Destruction and the Entire Speed Force while ultra sonic is Complex multiversal (7 dimensional) even ultra sonic is even faster! he is immeasurable instantly while the flash is over Massively FTL+, up to Infinite with Speed Steal and Immeasurable via running through time, the Speed Force, using the Fourth Dimension, and at Peaks
This would have been the perfect opportunity to put, "FIGHT!" right after the winner KO'd the loser. Like they battled so fast they won before they even said fight.
When one character can go back in time and erase the other one from existing... it's like me saying that I could be the best chess player in the world if I was the only player with a gun.
@@l0sts0ul89 No he didn't the scenes he was running past we're prior scenes of the animation he went back in time and destroyed sonic before he could go ultra
@mastergamingdude6191 wait i don't see what you're saying, he went back in time to the moment sonic was about to get the emerald and hit him and the emerald with an infinite mass punch. Then it shows the future sonic like merging with the timeline and vanishing from existence because flash destroyed his past. That's my interpretation
@@Skynetbear Correction as Wally made Archie Sonic experience every second of his life before disintegrating like those images were taken from various Archie Sonic Comics. It wasn’t every Sonic incarnation as the cast pointed out that it was specifically Archie Sonic’s existence.
Ultra was already the top dog in Archie. People confuse Hyper being stronger than Ulrra or Super. In the comics, Sonic used all 7 Super Emeralds to go Super. Furthermore, Ultra isn't related to Hyper. It doesn't come from the Super Emeralds. It comes from the Chaos Force. Mind you: Chaos Force>>>>>>Super Emeralds. People gotta understand Hyper isn't near the power of Ultra.
Hyper is non canon in the comics But the research was really fair at least they said that wally has no way to defeat super and ultra forms and he needs to wait until he comes back to the base form
@@Five_FingersofDeathsadly we will never know the game version of the super emeralds are locked in another dimension hopefully one day hyper sonic will return instead we got a super sonic 2
@@TylerKraus-cg4kq Because DC Comics is just broken as hell with their heroes and villains especially the characters ones who break their universe stupid easy and that Wally was the only exception given that against literally anyone else, Archie’s version of Sonic is unbeatable.
Oh yes. This followed the Ben 10 vs Green Lantern battle formula where the kid had the adult beat, only for the adult to rewind time and stop the kid from going OP.
@@anonymousfoxspirit6117he never showed the ability to travel through time And even if he knows he will be too slow to react bcs green lantern is like 750 times faster than alien x
Well, this Sonic may have nothing to do with the Paramount version... But at least it's technically more right than Wolverine VS Raiden labeling their series in the wrong order (Metal Gear VS Marvel respectively)
I mean, it's a smart business move. Helps keep them relevant for the algorithm and for those people who only want to see the fight without the fluff in the beginning or who have short attention spans, they can get straight to it.
Been doing it about a month. It undercuts people who just upload the fights (often passing the fights off as their own work), keeps the algorithm's attention, and gives them new (albeit recycled) videos while they're off season. If off season is half a year, that gives them seven years of weekly videos, not counting stuff from season 11 onwards.
ye right... this battle gets debunked by the fact that they tell us that flash can time travel while sonic cant? give me a break! also flash as wally west isnt as strong as archie ultra sonic he Varies with speed, up to Low Multiversal, higher with Speed Steal. Low Complex Multiversal with Environmental Destruction and the Entire Speed Force while ultra sonic is Complex multiversal (7 dimensional) even ultra sonic is even faster! he is immeasurable instantly while the flash is over Massively FTL+, up to Infinite with Speed Steal and Immeasurable via running through time, the Speed Force, using the Fourth Dimension, and at Peaks
If I'm being honest, I didn't even need to watch the analysis between the two of them. All of the popular DC characters seem relatively bland in terms of how they were written to be. It feels like none of them really have weaknesses anymore, and it just comes down to whether the plot needs them to fail or not in the comics.
Even before any upgrades, The Flash/Reverse Flash are just lame. "Oh no I'm losing the fight TIME TO TIME TRAVEL" and then proceed to break the universe again, can't wait for the 2nd and 3rd crises on infinite earths.
@@bingbongdingdong867 bro tf you are talking, most versions of the flash has their own rule not to time travel, bro if you didn't watch/read the flash don't fckin comment anything stupid
This is one small feat can’t fight without time and can easily speed blitz a inmeasurable speed The guys living in the past future in time every timeline he’s not faster than sonic this is one thing about divine the video he’s most likely not just in measurable with one statement this kind of makes me think he has in relevant speed that might be a highball though meanwhile Wally West is staying quite literally so low on the list i’m not gonna lie You one punch from sonic can kill him his strength feats are added on even after the mass I don’t know what that means since he has insane strength and he getting added on by mass but that’s crazy so yeah he’s a whole tair above Wally I hate when people downplay Wally but I’m not gonna lie I with you he’s really not gonna do anything
ye right... this battle gets debunked by the fact that they tell us that flash can time travel while sonic cant? give me a break! also flash as wally west isnt as strong as archie ultra sonic he Varies with speed, up to Low Multiversal, higher with Speed Steal. Low Complex Multiversal with Environmental Destruction and the Entire Speed Force while ultra sonic is Complex multiversal (7 dimensional) even ultra sonic is even faster! he is immeasurable instantly while the flash is over Massively FTL+, up to Infinite with Speed Steal and Immeasurable via running through time, the Speed Force, using the Fourth Dimension, and at Peaks
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 im not reading allat, the top comment wasn't even about the debate, rather the fact the title of the video got the version of sonic wrong (mainly just so it's favoured by the algorithm, but still)
Im confused, cant archie sonic make whatever wish he wants, so flash should have been gone? Or am i missing something, because it feels like sonic should've won because of that.
@@christophersmith2642according to death battle, it’s less that the form was superior and more of the fact that flash will always be faster than sonic due to him being able to steal speed, plus Sonic’s wish abilities are physical (which I don’t think that’s true) so flash can brute force through it. I’ll have to look at Archie sonic again but I’m pretty sure he’s completely independent from time altering things because he is the one true sonic or something like that. Aka he’d still live even if you killed his past self or any version of him. Theres other stuff too that weren’t completely true but it’s at least pretty good. I mean I don’t really know how you could actually end the battle realistically so I ain’t complaining about this
@vaquishers ok so archie is a paradox like reverse flash cause he isn't bound by time either past present or future versions of him can be killed and not affect him
They need to do mario Vs sonic 3 like Goku Vs superman Bcs the 2 videos research was dumb and the 2 is outdated too much even. more the Goku one The sonic Vs mario 1 is 13 years ago And the 2 is 5 years and 4 months ago
ye right... this battle gets debunked by the fact that they tell us that flash can time travel while sonic cant? give me a break! also flash as wally west isnt as strong as archie ultra sonic he Varies with speed, up to Low Multiversal, higher with Speed Steal. Low Complex Multiversal with Environmental Destruction and the Entire Speed Force while ultra sonic is Complex multiversal (7 dimensional) even ultra sonic is even faster! he is immeasurable instantly while the flash is over Massively FTL+, up to Infinite with Speed Steal and Immeasurable via running through time, the Speed Force, using the Fourth Dimension, and at Peaks
@@zama1861 that's the joke. It's to mock the backwards lgoic of doing something wrong to cover up the other things you did wrong. Like covering up a fart by throwing a baby though a window. Before you ask what is wrong is they go with all versions of DC character VS one specific version of a character
Like as in the character or the actual franchise? If it’s the former, then I can kinda understand that, but if it’s the latter, then that’s straight up false. They’re on a winning streak right now with Shadow finally getting a win by beating Ryuko, and Archie Silver beat Xeno Trunks in a fight after so many people thought that Silver was gonna lose that fight.
@@LuigiShellom365 This episode in particular was pretty bad for that case, Sonic barely got any hits in the entire fight, Super Sonic lasted a whole 20 seconds and did almost nothing. Ultra Sonic uses 2 powers, kicks Flash, gives off the worst line read possibly of the season. Then he just waits there like a dumbass until he dies. The animator didn't like Sonic
@Right_Bumper yea but that could also just show how much better wally is as an opponent since he could technically just phase out of any attack archie sonic threw at him
who is still a child and doesn't understand anything about comics, on the infinite track it was shown that the flash took Sonic's speed 1:02, he did the same thing when Sonic was in Ultra form 1:44, only at that moment the victory already was going to Wally side, and there is a scene where he discharges all the energy just to get into the middle of the power of the chaos emerald which is in this part 2:35, when he got the ultra sonic energy, he hadn't used it in at no time, just at this moment at 2:35
I remember when this fight came out Yikes… I didn’t take it well Nowadays I’m a bit more chill though I feel like Sonic was still done dirty. I believe either side could win unlike Mario vs Sonic 2018.
@@Keii898 The fact that they used Mario kicking a castle from SMW as an actual feat and not some one off gag, or how they said he's faster than Sonic because he flew around on a slow star in Mario and Luigi Dream Team. They also said that because he used Cappy in Odyssey to take over one of those incredibly slow sparky enemies he can move and react at light speed. That was probably one of if not the worst death battles.
while i do agree that sonic is kinda cooked from the start if the flash can go back in time, i have to argue, cant sonic as well? in sonic cd, he managed to claim all of the time stones (presumably) to save little planet from a bad future. this probably means that they have time manipulation powers, so arguably, they can both go back in time as long as sonic has them on him. but yeah sonic without them is cooked
Yes, it's true, but let's face it, in Sonic CD, Sonic needed the time plates so he could go to the future and the past, and the time stones he acquired returned to their rightful places.
At first, I thought it was game Sonic, which would've been pretty close... But then I realised it was archie Sonic, and yeah, no, this shouldn't have even been close
These guys were biased to flash Sonic should have won And don't say I'm biased cause they left out a tone of his abilities that wouldve cooked flash so there
The meat riding is insane💀💀💀 No way you just wrote that unironically 😐 I want a public apology asap😡 I want you to write "I'm sorry for the mindless glizzy gobbling and glazing" 100 times
@@eatchickeninthekitchen8665 Sorry to burst your bubble, pal, but as a long time fan of Sonic, from Archie comics til today, and a longtime fan of the Flash, I have to agree with the outcome. Can't beat speed with speed, esp when the Flash can nullify your potential and use it for himself. The Flash can harness all of the "speed force" and I'm pretty sure in the end, the multiverse of speed force beats out Sonic. Had he tapped into his other realities, then it may have ended different.
3:15 Nuh uh you only showed a percentage of sonic there in this fight where is the hyper sonic or the super sonic 2 (I forgot what that sonic frontiers transformation is called) and the rest of the things he can do? He overcomes the flash and goes head to head with Goku (and Super Sonic showed up just to send some attacks with no effect?) The video was cool but there were things missing, here's a nerdy tip🤓👆
ARCHIE SONIC IS INSANE!!! BUT THE FLASH IS FASTER-ER!!! Here’s some ideas for possible line-ups: - Archie Sonic vs Paper Mario (Archie Sonic vs Nintendo) - Archie Sonic vs King Mickey (Archie Sonic vs Kingdom Hearts) - Sally Acorn vs Sandy Cheeks (Archie Sonic vs Nickelodeon) - Rouge the Bat vs Sly Cooper (Sonic the Hedgehog vs Sucker Punch)
The crew weren’t kidding when they said this was one of their most insane episodes up to that point. While it has been surpassed in that area throughout these past few seasons, this fight is still a blast to watch. The sense of speed is conveyed really well which is something you need to get right with these two, the music track goes absolutely crazy, and the banter and voice acting are a blast to listen to, for the most part. (COUGH) “I Wish You Gone!” (COUGH). Not to even mention the death which is one of the most mind numbingly crazy in the show’s history. While it’s not my favorite of Season 7 or episode for either franchise, this fight is an absolute joy to experience and definitely my favorite depiction of this rather infamous matchup.
I've heard that they've put Sanic in the flashes of Sonic artwork they have put as he died, but I had no luck with trying to see it, for it goes too fast for me to see
DBX Is Back In Business: Gotenks VS The Sentry (Dragon Ball VS Marvel) Lucas VS Abe (Earthbound VS OddWorld) Obi Wan Kenobi VS Harry Potter (Star Wars VS Warner Bros) Rampage VS Eggman (DC VS Archie Sonic) Patrick Star VS Goofy (SpongeBob SquarePants VS Mickey Mouse) Roy Mustang VS Dhalsim (Fullmetal Alchemist VS Street Fighter) [Roy Mustang FTW] [Dhalsim FTL] Erma Williams VS Phantump (Erma VS Pokemon) [Erma Williams FTW] [Phantump FTL] Marth VS Aragorn (Fire Emblem VS Lord of the Rings) [Aragorm FTW] [Marth FTL] Talim VS Byleth {Female} (Soul Calibur VS Fire Emblem) [Byleth FTW] [Talim FTL]
In the end the Universe got destroyed by a Time Paradoxon. He goes back because he would lost. But since he stopped the future from happening, he would never gone back in time to stop the future from happening.
Lol this video is very clearly sponsored in some way by Paramount because the original video didn't have that "Paramount Plus" in it and considering they just announced a Knuckles series it all lines up together. A true shame that Death Battle is joining the clan of not announcing their sponsors, at least in the video description.
Well sonic should win since in one of the games it shows that sonic is so fast he can go back in time, also in one of the comic books it shows that sonic can form a ball of water and throw it at one of dr Robotnik's robots. it's clear that sonic shouldve lived this due to his insane speed and agility.
This death makes absolutely no sense first of all sonic needs all 7 chaos emeralds to go super and if it was a super emerald he should’ve gone hyper and made he chaos emeralds have been destroyed/ damaged multiple times in the series and it didn’t make Sonic tweak out and explode
2:47- to the end is one of my favourite finishers. Hearing the music swell as Wally pulls one of the biggest power moves on the show before that incredible sound design when he smashes the emerald at 3:05 always gets me hyped.
The only reason flash won was because of outside help from the speed force and all other people who PRACTICALLY USE THE DAMN THING so I honestly have to say sonic should have won.
Odd to reference the Speed Force. Yeah he would have lost without that, but that's because it's the main source of his power. I think. Maybe he creates it? Well either way it would be like Venom fighting but without a host body And in this battle I think he was more calling on the memory of those he loved to inspire him, to give him the strength to push through. Not literally giving him more power. Besides, wouldn't by that idea make it so Sonic wouldn't use the powerup crystals of his? Would make him way less powerful
@followeroftheprince if that was the case and neither used forms, i think sonic would win. This is Archie sonic we are talking about so he would probably demolish flash in base vs base form fighting.
Not only that but The Chaos Force scales higher than The Speed Force with Archie Sonic being Complex Multiversal and Wally West only being Low Complex Multiversal so yep. Sonic should've won. Thank God this has alternate endings.
It's really funny how they changed the sonic from archie sonic to movie sonic judging by the title, despite not changing the animation, guess archie sonic really won and they want to change that, but who knows
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Paramount Plus is a really strange way to spell Archie Comics, I must say.
I know right lmao
I remember it being spelled Sony
@@GodsLeastFavorite-vs3xvSony? That's how you spell Sega? Weird 🤷🏽♂️
Really? I thought it was spelled Sonic The Hedgehog.
That is a lie
Ah yes, Sonic from Paramount Plus, and nothing else.
What about alien x and other op beings
Yup, not even from the Archie comics
Imagine roadrunner and his smoke screen vs Chuck from the angry birds movies slowing down time
@druidic4353not even close
@druidic4353 being strong, and being fast are two different things.
"Paramount Plus"
""Archie Sonic"
Look I get that the titles that way for algorithms since new Sonic movie things dropped but those two aren't the same sonics.
I know it’s kind of lazy
@@gabeheartz13saravia97Nah they purposely did it to potentially get more views, not lazy
Yeah it's not laziness it's algorithm. The problem is now it makes no sense due to the sonic they used being different
I’m getting the fact they’re downplaying sonic
Sonic won this is bs
1:50 “your enemy freezes the floor and you go flying, you’re a seasonal super hero.” - Batman
It does depend on the flash because he can canonically create his own friction allowing him to run on air or even ice in this case.
Solidjj's reference 😎
@@NorseNuggie you’re over analyzing this 😅
@@reflectivegaming9979no not really
@@eastonenroth2366 it’s a solidjj’s reference, have you not see any of their videos?
Ah, Archie Sonic, my favorite Paramount Plus character.
They might as well bring him in, everyone's all about multiverses these days.
Fun fact: This Death Battle technically lasted 0.000000000000000000000000001% of a second, so that the video slowed down so we could watch it.
So,Who can really explain his death to me?
@@MichaellaHermosa-hn7vhI will try, but fair warning. I am not all out fan for Sonic and Flash since i know facts i happen to find out on the internet or using Death Battle.
*ahem
Since Super Emrald was shatter, the timeline jumped into diffrent course of action and fight we were viewing started to decay. And since Wally Flash can control his own molecules, vibrate in frequencies that normally wouldn't know and shatter the Emrald so he wouldn't be invicible as a Super Sonic, started to kill him in many diffrent universe and timelines until he ceased to existence.
@@MichaellaHermosa-hn7vhbasically flash traveled through time to kill Archie Sonic before he got the super emerald
ye right... this battle gets debunked by the fact that they tell us that flash can time travel while sonic cant? give me a break! also flash as wally west isnt as strong as archie ultra sonic he Varies with speed, up to Low Multiversal, higher with Speed Steal. Low Complex Multiversal with Environmental Destruction and the Entire Speed Force while ultra sonic is Complex multiversal (7 dimensional) even ultra sonic is even faster! he is immeasurable instantly while the flash is over Massively FTL+, up to Infinite with Speed Steal and Immeasurable via running through time, the Speed Force, using the Fourth Dimension, and at Peaks
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775Cope
This would have been the perfect opportunity to put, "FIGHT!" right after the winner KO'd the loser. Like they battled so fast they won before they even said fight.
I agree and will allow you to live 3 days longer than promised.
THIS.
Alternatively it buffers a bit at the start
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I’ve seen this same comment before…..but not by the same person….
I love the sense of speed in this one. Really shows how absurd both of these characters can get power
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Nah It doesn't
Flash: I'm the fasted thing on Earth
Sonic: No, I am
???: Amateurs
Sonic: What was that, punk?
The Cameraman: Amateurs
When one character can go back in time and erase the other one from existing... it's like me saying that I could be the best chess player in the world if I was the only player with a gun.
Expect Wally went into the future?
@@l0sts0ul89 No he didn't the scenes he was running past we're prior scenes of the animation he went back in time and destroyed sonic before he could go ultra
@LyricMMX yes he did. He literally went to the exact moment sonic ran out of time. Did you pay attention?
dumbest comparison ever
@mastergamingdude6191 wait i don't see what you're saying, he went back in time to the moment sonic was about to get the emerald and hit him and the emerald with an infinite mass punch. Then it shows the future sonic like merging with the timeline and vanishing from existence because flash destroyed his past. That's my interpretation
Archie Comics: "Am I a joke to you?"
This battle is absolutely insane. You really get a sense of the crazy speed and power both art capable of.
on the other hand, I didn't really understand his death
@@MichaellaHermosa-hn7vhHe basically killed every version of him across space and time
@@Skynetbear basically, that he killed the original sonic?
@@MichaellaHermosa-hn7vh Yeah
@@Skynetbear Correction as Wally made Archie Sonic experience every second of his life before disintegrating like those images were taken from various Archie Sonic Comics. It wasn’t every Sonic incarnation as the cast pointed out that it was specifically Archie Sonic’s existence.
It's a shame that Archie Sonic was canceled. It would have been insane to see if they'll ever adopt the Hyper form with all Super Emeralds.
I doubt they’d ever do that tbh
Ultra was already the top dog in Archie.
People confuse Hyper being stronger than Ulrra or Super. In the comics, Sonic used all 7 Super Emeralds to go Super. Furthermore, Ultra isn't related to Hyper. It doesn't come from the Super Emeralds. It comes from the Chaos Force.
Mind you: Chaos Force>>>>>>Super Emeralds.
People gotta understand Hyper isn't near the power of Ultra.
Hyper is non canon in the comics
But the research was really fair at least they said that wally has no way to defeat super and ultra forms and he needs to wait until he comes back to the base form
@@Five_FingersofDeathsadly we will never know the game version of the super emeralds are locked in another dimension hopefully one day hyper sonic will return instead we got a super sonic 2
@@يوسفمحمد-ح5ث5هeven then Archie sonic would win
Might want to fix the title on this one cause it’s Sonic from Archie Comics, not Paramount Plus.
Boo why didn’t sonic win
@@TylerKraus-cg4kq Because DC Comics is just broken as hell with their heroes and villains especially the characters ones who break their universe stupid easy and that Wally was the only exception given that against literally anyone else, Archie’s version of Sonic is unbeatable.
@@TylerKraus-cg4kq The Flash is superior. I love Sonic but gotta give props to the better man.
I love it when a character has a 100% chance of winning but loses due to time travel
Both of them were pretty much equal, the time fight is just entertainment
Actually he wasn’t time travelling
@@ugochukwunyere3196 did you watch the ending?
It looked like he went forward in time to catch Sonic when he wasn’t powered up
@@Sudoloku64he was entering 4th dimensional space wait out the super forms
It feels bad that Archie sonic has so many abilities but he only uses super form for like 15 seconds, fire, ice, the wish laser and ultra form
Oh yes. This followed the Ben 10 vs Green Lantern battle formula where the kid had the adult beat, only for the adult to rewind time and stop the kid from going OP.
Facts
It didn't make sense since Alien x could read his mind, see what he was about to do then follow him through time and space .
@@anonymousfoxspirit6117Sotobroa effect (I probably fucked that spelling up)
@@anonymousfoxspirit6117he never showed the ability to travel through time
And even if he knows he will be too slow to react bcs green lantern is like 750 times faster than alien x
Flash didn't go back in time, I can't remember where it was stated but he just went forward in time to the point where sonics power ran out.
Well, this Sonic may have nothing to do with the Paramount version... But at least it's technically more right than Wolverine VS Raiden labeling their series in the wrong order (Metal Gear VS Marvel respectively)
RIGHT!
That still triggers my OCD.
Sonic: "Prepare for trouble!"
Flash: "And make it double!"
Ngl flash and sonic would LITERALLY BE THE BESTEST FRIENDS
FR.
no matter life or death THEY NEED SUFFER AND SUFFER
this is why i love death battle
You can’t hide the fact this is a old video rebranded to be movie sonic and flash
2:41 When Wally west watches too much Anime and learns the power of Friendship/Family
Your funny
to be honest this was a one vs one,not a one vs 4,like at least be honest
Ah, it was emotional support that drives him to push further.
@@lft4ded Same thing
@@HelenaSan425 Yup, meant that as a reply to Joyscp999
no way they’re reuploading fights now
Probaly to keep themselves in the algorithm.
They have been for a while now.
I mean, we don't know when season 11 is happening, so they can use these as filler until they get to the new season
I mean, it's a smart business move. Helps keep them relevant for the algorithm and for those people who only want to see the fight without the fluff in the beginning or who have short attention spans, they can get straight to it.
Been doing it about a month. It undercuts people who just upload the fights (often passing the fights off as their own work), keeps the algorithm's attention, and gives them new (albeit recycled) videos while they're off season.
If off season is half a year, that gives them seven years of weekly videos, not counting stuff from season 11 onwards.
The real winner of the race is the cameraman himself.
Cameraman for animation. Boo on you.
@@ruintheday13 r/whoosh
ye right... this battle gets debunked by the fact that they tell us that flash can time travel while sonic cant? give me a break! also flash as wally west isnt as strong as archie ultra sonic he Varies with speed, up to Low Multiversal, higher with Speed Steal. Low Complex Multiversal with Environmental Destruction and the Entire Speed Force while ultra sonic is Complex multiversal (7 dimensional) even ultra sonic is even faster! he is immeasurable instantly while the flash is over Massively FTL+, up to Infinite with Speed Steal and Immeasurable via running through time, the Speed Force, using the Fourth Dimension, and at Peaks
Who is stronger Mario vs Batman
And I’m not just limit it to their base form they will have every form when they fight each other
Sonic fans: archie sonic is stronge-
Cosmic Wally west and reverse flash has joined the chat
Ok maybe cosmic wally but reverse flash nah no way he could beat archie
If I'm being honest, I didn't even need to watch the analysis between the two of them. All of the popular DC characters seem relatively bland in terms of how they were written to be. It feels like none of them really have weaknesses anymore, and it just comes down to whether the plot needs them to fail or not in the comics.
Even before any upgrades, The Flash/Reverse Flash are just lame. "Oh no I'm losing the fight TIME TO TIME TRAVEL" and then proceed to break the universe again, can't wait for the 2nd and 3rd crises on infinite earths.
@@bingbongdingdong867 bro tf you are talking, most versions of the flash has their own rule not to time travel, bro if you didn't watch/read the flash don't fckin comment anything stupid
2:06 Flash coulda ended it right here.
Not while in his ultra form
This is one small feat can’t fight without time and can easily speed blitz a inmeasurable speed The guys living in the past future in time every timeline he’s not faster than sonic this is one thing about divine the video he’s most likely not just in measurable with one statement this kind of makes me think he has in relevant speed that might be a highball though meanwhile Wally West is staying quite literally so low on the list i’m not gonna lie You one punch from sonic can kill him his strength feats are added on even after the mass I don’t know what that means since he has insane strength and he getting added on by mass but that’s crazy so yeah he’s a whole tair above Wally I hate when people downplay Wally but I’m not gonna lie I with you he’s really not gonna do anything
Not gonna lie this whole battle makes no sense The craterdefinitely thought you anything what does it really matter I got like two things wrong
Paramount Plus? I could’ve sworn this was Archie Sonic. Unless you saying Archie Sonic is Paramount Plus Sonic😂
They got paid ig
Downplaying
It said Paramount Plus, but it's actually Archie Sonic!
Yeah, I think they confused versions or something
This is actually just a preview of the third Sonic movie, which will be a crossover with DC.
ye right... this battle gets debunked by the fact that they tell us that flash can time travel while sonic cant? give me a break! also flash as wally west isnt as strong as archie ultra sonic he Varies with speed, up to Low Multiversal, higher with Speed Steal. Low Complex Multiversal with Environmental Destruction and the Entire Speed Force while ultra sonic is Complex multiversal (7 dimensional) even ultra sonic is even faster! he is immeasurable instantly while the flash is over Massively FTL+, up to Infinite with Speed Steal and Immeasurable via running through time, the Speed Force, using the Fourth Dimension, and at Peaks
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 im not reading allat, the top comment wasn't even about the debate, rather the fact the title of the video got the version of sonic wrong (mainly just so it's favoured by the algorithm, but still)
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 He traveled forward in time, did you know?
Given that they originally decided that Archie Sonic was going to win, I wonder how Wally would’ve been killed.
Having his corpse being spindash to death
The wish probably
Wasn't that how he originally killed mario@@coolrod15thecoolest24
Probs getting Wished from existence
@@cristalmewtwo4160 did he do that?
Im confused, cant archie sonic make whatever wish he wants, so flash should have been gone? Or am i missing something, because it feels like sonic should've won because of that.
Wally phases though reality warping energy
@@ugochukwunyere3196 damn. alright then
@@ugochukwunyere3196 sonic can do that too...soo...like....where can wally stop him?
@@Local-Wendigolemme just say it sonic was supposed to win but they did him dirty in this animation flash has nothing on archie sonic
In seeing a whole lot of conflicting points, and I have no idea what to do. I'm just gonna lean towards sonic being the should-be-winner
Most algorithm sounding title Death Battle have ever done.
Bruce Lee can punch and kick SO fast that he was asked to slow down for the camera.
Uhhh cool?
The derp Sanic at 3:09 is a master touch
I hate fights that end like this, going back in time and landing a killing blow before your opponent powered up feels like cheating
No, simplemente es una reversión de causalidad totalmente válida.
No sonic pulled out his strongest form and wally did too it's just that wallys form was superior
@@christophersmith2642according to death battle, it’s less that the form was superior and more of the fact that flash will always be faster than sonic due to him being able to steal speed, plus Sonic’s wish abilities are physical (which I don’t think that’s true) so flash can brute force through it.
I’ll have to look at Archie sonic again but I’m pretty sure he’s completely independent from time altering things because he is the one true sonic or something like that. Aka he’d still live even if you killed his past self or any version of him. Theres other stuff too that weren’t completely true but it’s at least pretty good. I mean I don’t really know how you could actually end the battle realistically so I ain’t complaining about this
Cuz sonic weak af
@vaquishers ok so archie is a paradox like reverse flash cause he isn't bound by time either past present or future versions of him can be killed and not affect him
Doesn't this version of sonic have narrative manipulation there should be no way flash wins, but apparently not
Yea they tend to forget that Sonic literally will ALWAYS win no matter what and the only way to beat him is for him to grow old and die
@@jonathan84166While him recently being scaled with one of the only ways of winning is to kill him 1 Billion Times which Wally didn't do
@@jonathan84166
Yeah ima stop you right there
Thats false asf.
Explain?@@marcelolopes735
@@marcelolopes735bruh flash is lucky that he manages to even touch sonic
i love how theres people seeing this for the 1st time and not the original video
Princess Peach VS Amy Rose (Mario VS Sonic) | DEATH BATTLE!
Honestly there probably gonna do Peach Vs Barbie
They need to do mario Vs sonic 3 like Goku Vs superman
Bcs the 2 videos research was dumb and the 2 is outdated too much even. more the Goku one
The sonic Vs mario 1 is 13 years ago
And the 2 is 5 years and 4 months ago
@@يوسفمحمد-ح5ث5ه True. An updated animation would be nice
Paramount plus? Thought this was Archie Sonic
Maybe they might have typed it wrong.
Probably just trying to appeal to the algorithm
Yea it is someone probably forgot which sonic it was
ye right... this battle gets debunked by the fact that they tell us that flash can time travel while sonic cant? give me a break! also flash as wally west isnt as strong as archie ultra sonic he Varies with speed, up to Low Multiversal, higher with Speed Steal. Low Complex Multiversal with Environmental Destruction and the Entire Speed Force while ultra sonic is Complex multiversal (7 dimensional) even ultra sonic is even faster! he is immeasurable instantly while the flash is over Massively FTL+, up to Infinite with Speed Steal and Immeasurable via running through time, the Speed Force, using the Fourth Dimension, and at Peaks
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 umm okay
They should have said Archie Sonic in the title
if they did more people would point out the errors of the fight itself
@@aussienimbat9988rethink what you said because literally everyone is saying the errors of death battle saying it's paramount plus Sonic☠️
@@zama1861 that's the joke. It's to mock the backwards lgoic of doing something wrong to cover up the other things you did wrong.
Like covering up a fart by throwing a baby though a window.
Before you ask what is wrong is they go with all versions of DC character VS one specific version of a character
So dc is getting rematches now let's see if sonic got a upgrade comment made at 0:01 edit oh this was the last one just battle
he stopped sonic, but he cant stop the a-train baby
They still treat sonic so dirty 💀
Like as in the character or the actual franchise? If it’s the former, then I can kinda understand that, but if it’s the latter, then that’s straight up false. They’re on a winning streak right now with Shadow finally getting a win by beating Ryuko, and Archie Silver beat Xeno Trunks in a fight after so many people thought that Silver was gonna lose that fight.
@@LuigiShellom365 This episode in particular was pretty bad for that case, Sonic barely got any hits in the entire fight, Super Sonic lasted a whole 20 seconds and did almost nothing. Ultra Sonic uses 2 powers, kicks Flash, gives off the worst line read possibly of the season. Then he just waits there like a dumbass until he dies. The animator didn't like Sonic
The character himself his only win was against the first Mario fight then never again
@@Right_Bumper Fair points.
But hey, at least this was a great Flash episode… that’s… something right…?
@Right_Bumper yea but that could also just show how much better wally is as an opponent since he could technically just phase out of any attack archie sonic threw at him
0:06 "Nope, that'd be me. The Original Speedster." - Hermes
Except Flash is faster somehow. Remember that in the comics Wally was called the fastest thing in thr Multiverse.
PARAMOUNT WHAT?
so you think you have the right of saying wally west wins when youre saying archie sonic is paramount plus? crazy bro.
Why the hell does it say Paramount plus? They don’t own Sonic, Sega does.
Hey guys, there’s gonna be a crossover of DC characters and sonic characters
@@CarlosGarcia91000 Really? When and why?
@@RedLSBtheTitaniumStorm shadow is Batman
@@CarlosGarcia91000 👍
@@CarlosGarcia91000who will tails be
(Paramount Plus vs DC Superheroes)
Archie Sonic: *Am I a joke to you*
Paramount Plus Sonic fighting against a DC Superhero? Should be Paramount Plus Sonic fighting against a CW Superhero instead
And yet, these two are still slower than Speedy Gonzalez.
who is still a child and doesn't understand anything about comics, on the infinite track it was shown that the flash took Sonic's speed 1:02, he did the same thing when Sonic was in Ultra form 1:44, only at that moment the victory already was going to Wally side, and there is a scene where he discharges all the energy just to get into the middle of the power of the chaos emerald which is in this part 2:35, when he got the ultra sonic energy, he hadn't used it in at no time, just at this moment at 2:35
I remember when this fight came out
Yikes… I didn’t take it well
Nowadays I’m a bit more chill though I feel like Sonic was still done dirty.
I believe either side could win unlike Mario vs Sonic 2018.
Yeah, I feel you. Just that not with this fight. Also what do you mean about the Mario vs Sonic 2018
@@Keii898Mario Vs Sonic 2018 really felt like a terrible episode. Sonic Vs Flash isn’t bad just could’ve been a lot better.
@@Keii898 The fact that they used Mario kicking a castle from SMW as an actual feat and not some one off gag, or how they said he's faster than Sonic because he flew around on a slow star in Mario and Luigi Dream Team. They also said that because he used Cappy in Odyssey to take over one of those incredibly slow sparky enemies he can move and react at light speed.
That was probably one of if not the worst death battles.
@@HeroTheHedgehog999
Archie is powerful and all, but Comics love over hyping their characters with crazy feats. Sorry, but Sonic had no chance.
@@NoOneInParticular_2Its no use(u get it u get it).But sonic would have won but they just had to over hype flash
Fun fact: This fight only took place over only 3 seconds. Which means, this is the shortest Death Battle ever.
Actually the shortest fight was Ben 10 vs hel Jordan since their fight ended before it even started
while i do agree that sonic is kinda cooked from the start if the flash can go back in time, i have to argue, cant sonic as well? in sonic cd, he managed to claim all of the time stones (presumably) to save little planet from a bad future. this probably means that they have time manipulation powers, so arguably, they can both go back in time as long as sonic has them on him. but yeah sonic without them is cooked
Yes, it's true, but let's face it, in Sonic CD, Sonic needed the time plates so he could go to the future and the past, and the time stones he acquired returned to their rightful places.
@@BebewallanYTB its just a game mechanic. Its been stated that he could fix time just by running
it all depends on which sonic we're looking at.
One sonic variant has outran a black hole, whilst another froze time.
At first, I thought it was game Sonic, which would've been pretty close...
But then I realised it was archie Sonic, and yeah, no, this shouldn't have even been close
These guys were biased to flash
Sonic should have won
And don't say I'm biased cause they left out a tone of his abilities that wouldve cooked flash so there
What ability could they have possibly missed that would change the result
@@BlowingBeauty he can't be killed
Also he can vibrate just like flash
@@rachaelbolton8113 he can’t be killed in his super forms.
2:52 quick question, do you know what this form is? edit: i meant the flash
Hyper sonic
Oh I get it, quick question
Ultra sonic
Archie sonic
He's talking about the flash
In all honesty the flash would kill him in only milliseconds if he was a psychotic murderer, like reverse flash
Broskie he cant touch archie sonic
In this fight, we saw an anomaly in reality against someone who also creates anomalies in reality so really depends on who could break reality more
It was nice they gave sonic a fighting chance against the legit embodiment of speed.
The meat riding is insane💀💀💀
No way you just wrote that unironically 😐
I want a public apology asap😡
I want you to write "I'm sorry for the mindless glizzy gobbling and glazing" 100 times
@@eatchickeninthekitchen8665 Sorry to burst your bubble, pal, but as a long time fan of Sonic, from Archie comics til today, and a longtime fan of the Flash, I have to agree with the outcome. Can't beat speed with speed, esp when the Flash can nullify your potential and use it for himself. The Flash can harness all of the "speed force" and I'm pretty sure in the end, the multiverse of speed force beats out Sonic. Had he tapped into his other realities, then it may have ended different.
You know what?... I NEED PART TWO!!!
Fym part 2 bro is dead ☠
@@theunstoppable3315 NOOOOO! NOOOOO! NEED PART 2 MFS💀💀
Hopefully if anyone asks and they find out that Archie Sonic scales higher, we'll get sequel.
3:15 Nuh uh you only showed a percentage of sonic there in this fight where is the hyper sonic or the super sonic 2 (I forgot what that sonic frontiers transformation is called) and the rest of the things he can do? He overcomes the flash and goes head to head with Goku (and Super Sonic showed up just to send some attacks with no effect?) The video was cool but there were things missing, here's a nerdy tip🤓👆
first off, this is ARCHIE sonic, and sonic loses to goku second of all
So true!
Sonic’s my goat but there’s no way he beats Wally West lmao
@@ItsxfutileWho is this?
@@pedrohumberto The flash
This was a nice battle between Sonic and Flash
I've even reacted to this death battle
Having “just the fight” between Omni-Man and Homelander would really highlight how short it is. XD
ARCHIE SONIC IS INSANE!!! BUT THE FLASH IS FASTER-ER!!! Here’s some ideas for possible line-ups:
- Archie Sonic vs Paper Mario (Archie Sonic vs Nintendo)
- Archie Sonic vs King Mickey (Archie Sonic vs Kingdom Hearts)
- Sally Acorn vs Sandy Cheeks (Archie Sonic vs Nickelodeon)
- Rouge the Bat vs Sly Cooper (Sonic the Hedgehog vs Sucker Punch)
Metal Sonic Vs Cell (Sega Vs Dragon Ball) I lowkey want to see Cell in a death battle, even if he loses
The crew weren’t kidding when they said this was one of their most insane episodes up to that point. While it has been surpassed in that area throughout these past few seasons, this fight is still a blast to watch. The sense of speed is conveyed really well which is something you need to get right with these two, the music track goes absolutely crazy, and the banter and voice acting are a blast to listen to, for the most part. (COUGH) “I Wish You Gone!” (COUGH). Not to even mention the death which is one of the most mind numbingly crazy in the show’s history. While it’s not my favorite of Season 7 or episode for either franchise, this fight is an absolute joy to experience and definitely my favorite depiction of this rather infamous matchup.
I've heard that they've put Sanic in the flashes of Sonic artwork they have put as he died, but I had no luck with trying to see it, for it goes too fast for me to see
@@ZudinGodofWar I can confirm he is there
0:32 me to dark sonic artist of the internet
I swear death battle acts like sonic can't time travel himself
so can flash lol.
@@mcgooncoolmanyou act like we didn't just see flash do that 💀
Yeah Death Battle and the Sonic franchise don't really mix well.
@@Godzilla_Beast_of_Revelation fr
DBX Is Back In Business:
Gotenks VS The Sentry (Dragon Ball VS Marvel)
Lucas VS Abe (Earthbound VS OddWorld)
Obi Wan Kenobi VS Harry Potter (Star Wars VS Warner Bros)
Rampage VS Eggman (DC VS Archie Sonic)
Patrick Star VS Goofy (SpongeBob SquarePants VS Mickey Mouse)
Roy Mustang VS Dhalsim (Fullmetal Alchemist VS Street Fighter) [Roy Mustang FTW] [Dhalsim FTL]
Erma Williams VS Phantump (Erma VS Pokemon) [Erma Williams FTW] [Phantump FTL]
Marth VS Aragorn (Fire Emblem VS Lord of the Rings) [Aragorm FTW] [Marth FTL]
Talim VS Byleth {Female} (Soul Calibur VS Fire Emblem) [Byleth FTW] [Talim FTL]
In the end the Universe got destroyed by a Time Paradoxon.
He goes back because he would lost.
But since he stopped the future from happening, he would never gone back in time to stop the future from happening.
Lol this video is very clearly sponsored in some way by Paramount because the original video didn't have that "Paramount Plus" in it and considering they just announced a Knuckles series it all lines up together. A true shame that Death Battle is joining the clan of not announcing their sponsors, at least in the video description.
Not that serious
Well sonic should win since in one of the games it shows that sonic is so fast he can go back in time, also in one of the comic books it shows that sonic can form a ball of water and throw it at one of dr Robotnik's robots. it's clear that sonic shouldve lived this due to his insane speed and agility.
0:52 jojo reference? 😂
Every thing is
By Death Battle’s Logic, this means Flash is stronger than GT Goku
He is tho.
This death makes absolutely no sense first of all sonic needs all 7 chaos emeralds to go super and if it was a super emerald he should’ve gone hyper and made he chaos emeralds have been destroyed/ damaged multiple times in the series and it didn’t make Sonic tweak out and explode
Where are they? 0:14
@@EZ-ZYgamingblud is talking out is a55
Archie sonic snaps finger beats him in all other universes while doing thousands of other activities infront of him
That’s not a move
Flash Stomps
This Sonic is not from the recent movies by Paramount, this is the Sonic from the Archie Comics.
That still wasn't Archie Sonic's full power. They didn't have Sonic go hyper, his most powerful and fastest form.
Archie doesn't have hyper he never went past 1 super emerald
i dont think hyper is even canon. and even if it was, that would be in games, not archie comics
“Those races were for charity Clark”
As much as the outcome of this is outdated and wrong, you have to admit that they cooked on the Music.
Nah, they were right here.
Paramount Plus and DC Superhero man 😭
So it's official, Sonic from the Paramount movies is identical to Archie, certaintly puts the events of those films into perspective
Why do the subtitles make this so funny
Hey nem I agree
if flash killed tails accidently
Sonic: …
3:13 he looks like heat blast from Ben 10
2:47- to the end is one of my favourite finishers. Hearing the music swell as Wally pulls one of the biggest power moves on the show before that incredible sound design when he smashes the emerald at 3:05 always gets me hyped.
Who is stronger Cinder mortal Kombat vs Infernape
Blud that’s Archie Sonic
Mobius chair wally says hi
A Yes my Favorite Sonic Form, Archie Sonic, From Paramount , and I don’t really know much about the flash but I do think sonic should have won 🏆
Do you want me to explain how Wally West won?
@@BebewallanYTB Who ?
@@planetterra1370 ....really?....Wally west
@@BebewallanYTB Are you talking about The Flash
@@planetterra1370 Yes
Great video 👍
Whatever happened with the new episode of death battle? Is the series on hiatus?
The only reason flash won was because of outside help from the speed force and all other people who PRACTICALLY USE THE DAMN THING so I honestly have to say sonic should have won.
Odd to reference the Speed Force. Yeah he would have lost without that, but that's because it's the main source of his power. I think. Maybe he creates it? Well either way it would be like Venom fighting but without a host body
And in this battle I think he was more calling on the memory of those he loved to inspire him, to give him the strength to push through. Not literally giving him more power. Besides, wouldn't by that idea make it so Sonic wouldn't use the powerup crystals of his? Would make him way less powerful
@followeroftheprince
if that was the case and neither used forms, i think sonic would win. This is Archie sonic we are talking about so he would probably demolish flash in base vs base form fighting.
Love how you ignore the random chaos emerald but sure lol 😂
@@kindridskylar7786fr but like common sonic would have won this match seemed so unfair
Not only that but The Chaos Force scales higher than The Speed Force with Archie Sonic being Complex Multiversal and Wally West only being Low Complex Multiversal so yep. Sonic should've won.
Thank God this has alternate endings.
Mr incredible vs captain America
It's really funny how they changed the sonic from archie sonic to movie sonic judging by the title, despite not changing the animation,
guess archie sonic really won and they want to change that, but who knows
Who wants a Deidara vs Bakugou? Explosion fight
Why do people think Ultra Sonic is the strongest? Hyper sonic is 7 super emeralds, ultra sonic is one super emerald
exactly
Ultra Sonic from Archie Sonic> Hyper Sonic (Game)
Hypothetical Archie Hyper Sonic >>>>>>> Ultra Sonic
Wally West: "Linda, Jai, Iris, HELP ME NOW!"
yeah that sounds unfair,this is a one vs one
@@Sonic2024freedomeraThey cant hear him and he didn't get help.
@@sergantanthony216 i mean he got motivation
@@Sonic2024freedomera From himself.
@@sergantanthony216 but why mentioning his family?
“Paramount plus”
Bro I’m dying 🤣
He… he used the power of friendship????????? 💀💀💀💀💀💀
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I'm so confused since when was Archie Sonic from Paramount Plus.