The Boss AD-10 Acoustic Preamp - The Ultimate Acoustic Pedal Solution?
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Great demo, that is a great step forward for acoustic guitar players. wondering if you could do another demo on it when you're more familiar with it. I think from what I have seen here that the effects are almost limitless. Also, I would be interested in all the gear you are using, guitars , amps etc. Maybe you could do a comparison of the L.R. Baggs Venue DI, Fishman Platinum Pro Eq/DI, Fishman Aura Spectrum DI Imaging Pedal and Grace Desin ALiX Preamp EQ/DI Boost pedal
I agree with the looper issue, and it seems to be a similar issue on a lot of Boss kit (other than the dedicated loopers). The GT-1, for example, has this issue. In my case, the lack of a single-click stop function made the GT-1 looper impractical for performance use.
IMO Boss really need to update the software on these units to allow an external footswitch to control more advanced looper features.
Demo starts at 10:00
Great wood panel back ground! Is that the full time back ground or will you just use it for acoustic demos??
DId they ever fix the Delete last loop? It's almost all I want for a Duo performance (brother on violin and me on guitar) looping BUT I fear with that one simple mistake it will destroy the whole music set. If you can think of a method (or different 2 input loop pedal) that we could figure out our best options for it.
I’m still hoping for a reissue or update for an undo/redo function for the looper. Please make it happen Boss!
Great video guys. Just bought my AD-10. Seems to me these multi-effects pedals that include a looper tend to be a mixed bag of missing capabilities. That's why I have several dedicated looper pedals...simply because they are better. These days, most folks that really care about good looping already have a looping pedal. I have six. When a better one comes out, I get it.
does pete is usually at andertons store? i might go there to buy some guitar and to get it signed
Can you play both guitars at once through the pedal, once the settings for each guitar have been individually set?
Can you plug a digital piano into the unit into the second input instead of a second guitar
Thanks
Can it be used to run headphones/in-ear monitors from the back?
What do you guys think about the preamp? I'm thinking about buying it, any customer reviews here? Thx
So would you put the ditto in the effects loop??
Or just buy the TRex acoustic preamp for $600?
Is the AD10 can pass through the signal without the need to power it up, cause it’s the first in the chain. Asking cause I need to use my Stratocaster sometimes. Thanks
This pedal sounds great! Seems like it has everything and the some for playing live.
In regards to the looper, it’s a nice feature but I’d rather use a different looper that has a dedicated stop.
Could you guys take a look at schecter's acoustic line. It's fairly small but interesting especially with spec/price.
What parameters are stored in the memory mode? Specifically, does it save EQ, resonance settings etc to switch on the fly? I want to use this for a guitar and mandolin live (I switch between instruments).
Yes you can save those as presets and switch them as needed.
Do you build a mini set inside the regular room?!
Could you make a video using the 12 string guitar?
can you put a spirit level on the Andertons sign in the next video? I'm not convinced it's level.
What do you guys think of acoustic sims?
Love seeing you (hey) girls play together....
Have to admit ... I like that a lot. The loss of the Looper control really does kill it though as you're having to pay for that separate looper to make it what it should be at the price you pay. Andertons surely have the throw to speak to BOSS and see if they can update it?
That intro jam though woah!
Anyone know if they updated the looper function?
Hey Pete!
"From the horse's mouth" comes from buying horses. Just like used cars today, the "used horse salesmen" were notorious tellers of "alternative facts," particularly about the age and diet of the horse. But, if you were a savvy buyer, you could look at a horse's teeth to discover the truth about it's age and past diet, and therefore overall health and judge a fair price. So, "From the horse's mouth" means to see through confusing speech and lies from others and find out the truth of a matter from the beast itself, with no middle man to add confusion.
Hello Friends of Music! is there of shure a Microfon connection?
The sound of the 12-string would have been interesting.
How does the sound get from the acoustic guitars hole to the device?
Has to be an Electric/Acoustic using a Acoustic pickup in the guitar.
Boss ad 10 or zoom ac 3?
12:37 I really liked that second chord
Around 14:20 I couldn't tell if it was a bad sounding steel string or a bad sounding nylon string.
Would have liked to hear a mic'd acoustic through this pedal. Piezo tone isn't gonna get any better with a standard EQ and effects.
the AD-10 got some bad reputations about feedback. any input about that? got it from www.thomann.de
Its reference to the old show mr. Ed the talking horse , i know its geared for full acustic instruments but what about semi acoustic like big hollow body electrics?...your acoustical phrasing very dreamy an wimsical...good job guys...
Kind of a noob question, but when you are using an acoustic preamp like this, what are you running it into? Just a PA, right?
For me it was either buying an acoustic amp, and then have to take two amps to gigs or get a Preamp/DI box. I chose the Preamp. Less stuff to carry, better sound and more control over EQ than plugging straight into the desk/PA. Then from the Preamp you can indeed run it to a PA or desk, and then back to a monitor for example. Hope this helps :)
Yes Pete, but do you use this pre-amp?
Not this particular one, no. But I don’t reckon that makes a big difference to answering the kind of “general” question. If it does, forget what I said in my first reply.
Thanks, just curious, as one who is continuously on the search for the "Holy Grail" for live acoustic guitar sound :-). At the moment and for the last ten or so years I've been using an Orchid Pre amp www.orchid-electronics.co.uk/acoustic.htm) . Although I have tried the Fishman Aura, TC Acoustic Live and various other cheaper boxes, actually none have come close to the Orchid for producing a mic'ed up guitar but that doesn't stop me looking. Obviously the Orchid doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the others. I use a TC Helicon Harmony G for vocals and that does the trick, but it would be good to get an "all in one" pedal that has the quality of the Orchid. Great review Pete, as always
I see. But that’s a whole other question. I’ll tell you my (live) situation. Because obviously studio sessions are totally different as you can use as many mics as you like in a room without a band playing and having to worry about any bleed in the mics/ feedback and stuff.
I go acoustic > pedalboard > Fishman Aura Spectrum DI > balaced/xlr out to desk (> to monitor, so I can hear what I’m doing and how I sound).
Through pedalboard so I can use my effects, I don’t use them a lot, but sometimes some come in handy like the Wah in some songs or a bridge, use some delay for a solo, or recreate a room or hall with some reverb, accentuate stuff with a BOOST!! or overdrive, but mostly I play clean with a hint of reverb. Then into the Aura Spectrum DI. To really use this to its fullest capacity they have these “images”. Now, according to Fishman, what they did was; in their studio they miced different guitars (bodies, ie dreadnought, jumbo, nylon) with different mics you can choose from. There are litteraly dozens and dozens of these Images. Note that these are not made to change your guitarsound or replicate sounds. For example you plugin a nylonstring guitar and set the image to twelve string, it doesn’t make your nylon to sound like a twelve string, that doesn’t happen. But what it does, and this is pretty clever, all guitar types have their own unmistakable character (in the EQ as well) and fishman recorded them with different mics. So like the warm and deep dreadnought or big sounding jumbo, the crispy clear orchestra (or “OM”) and so on. And then you can add that particular character/ respons/ EQ handling/ image or whatever to your sound using the blend knob to taste. So connect the device to your computer and find the image CLOSEST to your guitar, recorded through I mic you like, choose on of the 12 slots to put it on. And now you can blend it in! I blend it to probably a max of 40% and I believe it to work really well. Doesn’t change my sound in a huge way. But it gets a warm, roomy, natural sauce so to speak as if there is indeed a mic on your guitar.
Well, the tone hunting journey... it’s endless. I’m kinda satisfied now. But I might want to change everything next week. Taste changes, so does technology, gear, knowledge etc. I’m good for now. Anyway; I’m a lot happier than I was plugging directly in the desk, or carrying two amps. So whatever works for you, works. There is a sound coming out, which is useable for me, fo me.
Hope this helps a bit. ✌🏼
Can you EQ each channel separately and store it as a preset?
Yes, you can.
you can eq each channel independantly and it will be saved next time you turn on the unit but saving a preset only saves the global eq not on the independant channel level
Got one 18 months after this video was published. It's a shame it still doesn't have the delete-last-layer function.
I bought this preamp and tried my Taylor and Epiphone with a Fender Blues Junior (15W) but the tones were horrible! I spent a whole day working on the settings but none of the tones were as close to the ones in the demo! Great if you or anyone can help me!
This pedal is not designed to be plugged into a electric/tube amplifier... This is for acoustic guitar and to be plugged into a PA system, PA speaker or acoustic guitar amp such as the Boss Acoustic singer pro the boys are using in this video. Hope that helps.
Thank you!
Yeah, I wish Mick was still doing these. He knows his acoustics.
Pete you lent him a shirt !!!? Did he stop at yours last night ? Xxx
What guitar is Pete playing? Looks like a slope shoulder Roy Smeck-like flattop.
Carmine Anastasio
It's a Sigma. I don't know the model. JM something. The ones I've seen have been more basic design but I like his a lot.
Tyler Chatham Thank you Tyler. After your reply, I found it is the Sigma JR-SG.
Carmine Anastasio I went and looked too to confirm. I want one
I miss Mick... :'-(
Ariel seems like a nice guy,but the chemistry between mick and pete was awesome.And the fact that mick helped reign in petes manic nature is a plus
Mister Monsieur ? You will find him with Dan on That Pedal Show twice a week, Tuesdays and Fridays. Don't think Mick is contracted to Andertons any longer, as he has other work demands.
I'm aware of That Pedal Show,being that I mainly play acoustic I really appreciated his take on acoustic guitars.Without mick pete seems very unfocused and to be honest it was mick who brought the info not pete
yep, but glad to see Ariel is back. At least we still have the pedal show for Mick. heck, they put out an hour or so vid a week.
What is that..a stuffed deer??....hanging on the wall??..funny
Nice room ;)
Thank you..
pete
I guess the only pedal from boss the you can "unloop" things is the RC series. Even the expensive GR-55 can't do it.
Can you get Pete to review the TC Helicon Play Acoustic. I'd love to know what he thinks of it as I think it's a great pedal for the acoustic singer/performer.
Paul Stubbs I bought one for gigging duties. Found accessing the body Rez settings in the pedal a pain in live situations. For gigging I’d recommend the separate harmoniser and body Rez pedals (or better sounding PreAmp) for quick, easy adjustment. Not sure of the benefit of the single unit....I sold mine after a short period.
Interesting as I originally started with a TC Harmony Singer (which I loved too) and then decided to go for the one pedal rather than buy the separate Body Rez. So for me I guess the harmonies are the key and the Body Rez is slightly secondary. So I generally just stick the Body Rez on a setting (usually 3 or 5) that sounds good and then maybe EQ it with the guitar or amp. The bonus of having it all in one unit with a tuner/looper with a simple and flexible set up is really the icing on the cake. Although I've been a big BOSS/Roland fan for a couple of decades I think the TC products are more superior in this field. Would be interesting for Danish Pete to do a review.
I'd like to see this too, and some sort of comparison with the Boss VE 8.
Yeah I actually posted this on the wrong video, should have been the VE-8 review (must have had both open at the time) which I thought was poor by Anderton standards. Not really testing either the guitar or vocal effects just bumbling round the controls and messing about. Still, since found this other review from another guy who does a fair job. Worth a watch. ua-cam.com/video/N5Q8wxph--s/v-deo.html
Thanks Paul, good effort! I'm leaning towards the VE 8 but i'm keen try this AD 10 thing.
I can't tell if you guys had any fun :)
With Chorus, the two knobs above are only to control Delay, STOP PLAYING WITH THEM THINKING THAT THAT WILL CHANGE THE CHORUS SETTINGS !!!!!
It looks very much like the yamaha AG stomp
Am I the only one who didn't hear a great deal of chorus when selected on it's own at full level but more chorus when used in conjunction with the delay ?
I don’t get it when people say “steel string” like strings are made of bronze not steel...
Saying "you can stick your..." without a giggle!? Where is the real Pete? 😉
As usual with Boss products - great sounds but the UI is just rubbish..! When will they get more like Helix or Headrush..?
Is that battery powered. ?
paramediccpo no the small black cable on the left when they show the deck is for power. I think.
Eugene Jefferson yes bro my point is they need to make something of this standard that is battery powered...
It's got a space for 6 x AA cells and it will burn through them in about 6 hours, depending on use, according to Boss. The power supply is necessary, I'd say.
Taylor can't be more quacky. Is the unit designed to make the piezo sound even more so?
I want that `f hole` acoustic behind Ariel soooo bad I could cry!
Looks like one of these
www.andertons.co.uk/epiphone-de-luxe-classic-f-hole-masterbilt-century-series-archtop-acoustic-in-vintage-natural-etd2vnnh1
Actually they have that sunburst model in the sale £100 cheaper :)
Awesome video! But lower the action on that Taylor , man every note that was hit buzzed cringe 😂
I was hoping we were gonna hear that 12 string sitting behind you.
First video where I've realized Pete has a bit of OCD with cable knots. Plus, what's with the magical background beers appearing in the videos lately...
the last impro reminded me to "one trick pony" acoustic parts. by nelly furtado
Are there anyone who knows the right guy’s guitar name??
all the reviews I have seen of this unit are quacky as!!! Isn't that what we are trying to get rid of??
Totally agree. It sounds horrible
Mickless!!! Oh no!! But Ariel knows his stuff just as well AND he's a beardy. Yeh !!! Let's hear it for bearded guitarheads.
Fast forward to 10 minute mark where they actually audition the sound.
280 bucks in the US.
Yeah .... UK Tax and import kills the price on most things.
Pete was not having it and neither am I.
T-Rex Soulmate acoustic is a way better preamp and pedal all in one.
i dont like the sound. too much piezzo quack
I can sometimes use that sound in a mix, but yeah, I guess I don’t hear a true acoustic guitar in action. It reminds me of the sound I get with the built in Fishman on my ancient Norman...I like the tone of my cheap passive sound hole pickup more for a pure acoustic sound. I have too many loopers🤣
Love both guys, but I think it's time to test acoustic equipment with decent sounding pickups. L.R. Baggs, Fishman, Seymore D., Dimarzio, Highlander... can't be that hard to find.
Playing is great but the sound is horrible and off-putting.
Let's get it done Pete! Come on, man!
Taylor's ES2 pickups system is widely considered one of the best that are made. Baggs, Fishman, K&K, etc... are all great but the ES2 is right up there with them. The problem is that most of these units are made for steel string guitars and not classical's. I think that is the basis for the tonal discretion you're hearing.
Sam Dowty I'm not sure we can compare ES2 or other USTs (barring highlander and carlos) with magnetic pickups, transducers, mic systems, or any combinations thereof.
All I'm saying is, there have been many reviews of quite expensive gear on Andertons, and still not one acoustic pickup that faithfully reproduces sound of the guitar, or comes close.
I love my takamine cool tube, which sounds better than these two guitars, but it is still a UST.
But would it sound better in the same environment, with the same playing, through the same cable, into the same interface, using the same DAW as them? And your right about comparing transducers vs other types of acoustic pickups and mics but the reality is that these types of processors are designed to help the "quackyness" of transducer pickups. There is a level of audio gear where the idea of "better" becomes completely subjective. It's all about what you do, where you do it, and how you do it that determines if something is "better" for you and what you do.
I agree with you Sam on the subjectivity and perception and these being the tools for most of us who play with the shortcomings of piezzo USTs. However, all these reviews make it seem like there is only one way and only one type of sound we should just resign to.
The reality is also that there are now many players who use magnetic pickups and transducers and mics and their sound is different, and in many cases, better. Not perfect, just less quaky, more depth, easier to play, easier on the ear.
It shouldn't be too hard to temporarily install baggs m80, or fishman rare earth, or k&k meridian mic, etc. and just do a comparison.
Even with great players like Ariel and Pete it's a struggle to play these guitars the way they play Duesenbergs, and definitely a struggle to listen.
Again, at Andertons, where electric guitars and amps can cost as much as a decent car, why would you settle for low level acoustic sound signal path processing and amplification.
quaky as hell tbh
taylor intro sounded like a rusty frog fart
Shit!
Straight from the horse's mouth. One can confirm the approximate age of a horse from examining its teeth. Thus, when purchasing a horse, the buyer can verify the seller's claim of its age.
It also accounts for the saying "Never look a gift horse in the mouth." It was considered an insult to test the quality of the gift in front of the giver. Of course, everyone would look later.
Not as good as the zoom ac3 acoustic
As good as the unit clearly is. I’m rather put off by how complicated it clearly is. Would probably take a several weeks to work it out and several more to set up the sounds that would want.
Cool pedal yes, somewhat cheesy sounds, but that’s Boss’s trademark. And nothing wrong I suppose with that 80’s cheese 🧀
can't you ask to acoustic players for testing this kind of product , a nylon string can't sing with this kind of playing ...
Tooo confusion
The nylon doesn’t sound that nice
Guy on the left with the black hair is lame. He acts like he has something better to be doing. Seems like he has a huge ego.
The tones sound really bad and tinny I can’t believe they thought it sounded great.
Not the best video ever guys. Nothing to learn until the 10 minute mark then bundles of knob-twiddling with no time to absorb the sounds. Have to find another one to watch.
Really not the greatest of reviews. Pete ‘twiddles’ every knob far too much and you never get to focus properly on the sound differences. Zero on eq setting storage, a cursory plonk on the boost and so on. the looper issue I can see could be irritating to many, I regularly just set a rhythm loop in my solo gigs and so it would work fine for me for those songs. I do run two separate loopers currently, one sending percussion tracks pre-recorded, as well so this would lose one of the them.
It’s not a vehicle to be the funniest dude in the film guys, let’s concentrate on the basics of information, please?