Nikon F60 (N60) First Impressions + Fujifilm Neopan 400 & Arista EDU Ultra 400

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  • @gatsbye53
    @gatsbye53 2 роки тому +6

    Love the N60. My first real camera, a gift, new, from my father after entering college. A solidly built camera that hits the basics of what a camera should be.
    This was a basic "advanced amature" camera when it came out. If you're wanting to change the iso, and are looking for a few more bells and whistles, look at the n80.
    The n60's extra weight comes from having a metal frame inside. I for one personally feel it's a good weight and think that it is solidly built. Some of its successors have felt flimsy and cheaply built.
    It's important to keep in mind what the role of this camera was when it was made. It's not an F5, but instead a solid gateway from point & shoot into the real of more advanced technique.
    This might not be the right camera for what your needs are, but it may certainly be for someone just starting out. And let's not forget, the real magic is in the glass. :)

    • @Charlie25068
      @Charlie25068 Рік тому

      Agreed, he's reviewing this camera as if it just came out and costs $800. DX coding was and is commonplace for 90% of users.

  • @CAMERADACTYLCameras
    @CAMERADACTYLCameras 2 роки тому +5

    The N60 was my first 'real' camera. I spent my life savings on it when I was maybe 14 years old. it has a sentimental place in my heart for sure. I used to cut tin foil to fake DX codes on bulk rolled film for it, and don't love that it doesn't have a depth of field preview. I do like that slow single point AF system and the meter is great. It has a glass prism, rather than a mirror prism as in the n65, 75, and I think n80, which is nice, and I believe where the extra weight you noted comes from. Mine was also in that ridiculous champagne finish.
    I really loved this episode, and am looking forward to you trading your way through all of them!

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      Thank buddy.

    • @marcp.1752
      @marcp.1752 Рік тому

      The F60 as well as the F65 is a pentamirror, not pentaprism. You get a brighter pentaprism (all glass) viewfinder (OVF) inside the F80, F90(x), F100 for example, but not into these beginners SLRs from Nikon, which only covers 89%, from what you see. Nikon F90(x) - 92%, F100 - 96%. Into contrast - the Nikon F, the 1st F-mount SLR, released into 1959, was a Pro SLR, and featured already 100% viewfinder coverage, which simply means, what you see is what you get.

  • @marcp.1752
    @marcp.1752 Рік тому +1

    Fine video, as always. Happy new year, Azriel ! Nowdays, i'd say, the N60/F60 successor F65/N65 is the better deal. It's my cheapest 35mm AF SLR, after the F55, which does have too many limitations. Of course, i've got much better AF SLRs. But for a subtle drizzle, for foggy situations, or into unsecure spots, i do just use my F65, with a cheap Kitlens, sometimes the 28-80G (F8-F11 only) or a better lens.

  • @minisla
    @minisla 2 роки тому +3

    One Pro the F60 has it will probably be one of the last film cameras available to purchase in a decade or two due to its simplicity. I tend to focus and recompose with it. Single focus point isn't that much of a pain. Could always add your own dx strip to film that doesn't have any... I like the camera for its simplicity...Good light meter. Con not good for moving subjects 😆

  • @jmrjmr3446
    @jmrjmr3446 2 роки тому +1

    I find this review rather amusing. It's a beginners camera, that's why Nikon left out many features. My first foray into photography was a Canon T-50. It is also for beginners. No controls at all, just lens aperture ring. It took fine images. Then I bought a Nikon FA, first camera with multi-pattern metering. It helped me become a good photographer. Still have it. Rugged is the word I would use for those great 1970-1980 mechanical cameras. I stayed away from anything auto-focus because I knew it was in its infancy. Common, they're old cheap plastic film cameras after all!

  • @julianwilcox9890
    @julianwilcox9890 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Azriel
    Check out the Nikon F80/N80, it is the F100 little brother. It has most of the bangs and whistles of the F100 in a smaller lighter (plastic) but well made package. It is also G lens compatible along with the rest of the Nikkor range. For Reference check out Steve O'Nions vlogs on here as he uses F80 almost exclusively along with Bronica. Hope this helpful. Cheers Jules

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      Thanks Julian. Lots of people recommend the f80. Will get one and try it for sure.

    • @julianwilcox9890
      @julianwilcox9890 2 роки тому

      No problems from a fellow F100 user! Cheers Jules 🙂

  • @SirJeff
    @SirJeff 2 роки тому

    This was the camera my father used from 1998-2003, with a Vitacon 28-210mm f3.5-5.6 to take about 1500 family photos in total (I was scanning all of them between 2021 and 2022, which took two weeks).
    If I'm not wrong, the F60 doesn't actually allow the use of non-dx encoded film. It detects that there is a film inside based on which dx contacts are connected the moment the film door is closed. At least this was what I found out while I was tinkering with it

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      According to the manual it defaults to 100 iso. I didn't test it though.

  • @TheMungo54
    @TheMungo54 2 роки тому +1

    I have the F65, F75 and F80. The F80 is by far the best. I’ve recently picked up an F90X so I can use my AI and AFD, seems like a really nice well built camera but not tested it properly yet. Looking forward to your thoughts on them.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      F80 has come up a lot here.

    • @marcp.1752
      @marcp.1752 Рік тому

      The F90(x) does have a huge design flaw - the adhaesive into the rubber-esque backdoor is detoriating, like 99% of all of these are way sticky nowadays. My F90x now no more, i cleaned it with nail color remover.

  • @marcp.1752
    @marcp.1752 Рік тому

    For ISO control, one has to hack the DX code, it's not avialable on the F55, F60, F65 & F75. I made often an ISO 100 Film as ISO 200, for deeper blacks & more contrast. I do really like your 80's vibe, somehow stranger things mood...suits the videos quite well. Nikon thought, the Users (beginners) of F50 up to F75 don't need ISO control, they'd just pop into their 35mm film roll, and the camera detects via DX code, which ISO speed it is - without messing with that settings. Sad, but true - every other, old manual focus SLR from the days, already 70's, does have ISO control.
    If you don't mind the (hefty) weight, i can recommand the semi-pro Nikon F90x, which was being released 1994, 2 years after the F90, which was being rushed into market. It does use use the same CAM-246 AF module, but tweaking software gives it better performance. It was only one step under the F4, F5 back at the time. Pros used it as backup body, or even their main SLR. One AF point, but way faster than all the F50 up to F80, weathersealed. Perhaps you'd make a video someday about the F90x. :)
    You should really get a black F60, Azriel. I've found the F60 into champagne ugly, the black one is fine. The 28-80G focus fine onto the F60, even onto the F50, according to Nikon, and it really works, tried it 2 weeks ago! :)

  • @ronaldwhedon3924
    @ronaldwhedon3924 2 роки тому

    I would pick the F5, then the F80.
    So many Nikons boot you out of matrix meter whenever the conditions aren't right. Also, their later film slrs don't focus with the Silent Wave lenses. Their low end DSLRs don't focus with the screw drive lenses. Nikon originally kept their f mount for legacy Glass but then you can't really use it effectively.

  • @SinaFarhat
    @SinaFarhat 2 роки тому

    Interesting Nikon f camera body finding project!
    Have a good week!

  • @RickJohnson
    @RickJohnson 2 роки тому

    I picked up this body as an N60 in the same color dirt cheap at a Goodwill, spent more on the battery, and tested it. Unfortunately, I found out afterward that AF-S glass was manual focus only. I eventually got a similar cheap 28-80mm zoom (mine had macro and external focus) and ran a couple of rolls through it before deciding it was just sitting, so I sold the combo for a bit more than I had into it (also on eBay)!

  • @travelswithEvgeniy
    @travelswithEvgeniy Рік тому

    I from UA . Thank you for your support.

  • @Stupido91
    @Stupido91 2 роки тому

    I had similiar plan once to check as many of Nikon slrs as I can. Now I have my 3 favourite af bodies. F100 like you, just perfection. F801s when my F4 ia too heavy, that camera have everything you need, and have nice classic vibe. And last but not least smaller brother of F100, F80 it is small, it is stealth and it is lightweight, just perfect, can do almost the same job as F100.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому +1

      Lots of people recommending tbe f80....

    • @Stupido91
      @Stupido91 2 роки тому

      @@AzrielKnight IMO in a small budget you can't get better when you use G lenses, only downside is that you cannot use ais and older glass with it.

  • @alanlawson1969
    @alanlawson1969 2 роки тому

    I get what you are saying about needing to find purpose in your photography. I think this is a common problem for most of us , even ones like me that just shoot for fun. I found a nice N2002 at a charity shop that I enjoy using, but I don't think you can use G lenses with it.

  • @rpdee7344
    @rpdee7344 2 роки тому +1

    3/3/22 The 90s camera seem to all get plastic fantastic and more general consumer-oriented, with a lot of automation, most films sold during that period came with the dx coding on the film can so no need to confuse the general user with ASA/ISO settings, plus like noted you could usually bracket the frame you shot with the menu systems built into the camera, plus now the name brands could justify more easily the added price of a Pro series cameras. Going from the 70s-to 80s the trend seems to make it easier for the users by making everything as auto as possible where the user could focus on the creative aspects of photography, while still getting a great image that was properly exposed and sharp. Plus this was the time period of MTV videos with lots of creative ever-changing videos that came out, leading to viewers' shorter attention spans to all the visual content coming at us. Offering Tech to make things simpler was a prelude to pocket cameras and cell phones with cameras.

    • @ronaldwhedon3924
      @ronaldwhedon3924 2 роки тому

      I love the N90s, but for G lenses you'll only have program and shutter priority modes.

  • @rockycassiano4756
    @rockycassiano4756 2 роки тому

    Does the N75 allow iso changes? Washington State does not allow developers to return negatives so I migrated to a D700. I wanted an auto focus lens for it and got a N75 with a 28-80mm. Never used the N75. ... Great video.... : )

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      Why in gods name don't they let you keep the negatives?!
      The n75 has no iso change.

  • @jw48335
    @jw48335 2 роки тому

    EOS 3 + Elan 7N for me. This'll be fun to watch play out:)

  • @marcelocampoamor4761
    @marcelocampoamor4761 Рік тому

    Good idea, can I suggest the Nikon F801s (N8008s in USA) For the price it seems excellent. I'm not sure if it's compatible with G lenses

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  Рік тому

      Almost had my hands on one last year...

  • @3farrelkeane805
    @3farrelkeane805 2 роки тому

    hi, i was wondering, i have an f60 nikon right now, currently having a great time with, but i once used a remjet basic film not cinestill, but rather a local film, its remjet layer already removed but after j finished its roll, one of my camera gear broke, and they say it is because of the remjet basic film, i was wondering, is it true? is it not safe to use film like cinestill on this camera?, or it is just a matter of the camera age, please let me know....bummer if i was unable to use tungsten film on this camera

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 2 роки тому

    Cameras like the F60 were designed for people who had no idea what pushing and pulling film was. It was an SLR and SLRs were "professional", so dad could be the family photographer, leave the F60 on Program and impress everyone. They were as distant from the FM, never mind the F5, as can be imagined, but they had the Nikon badge.
    As you said, ISO can be accommodated via exposure compensation. If you push/pull several stops and want to over/under expose on top of that, you may run out of +/-. Mostly people won't. I agree on the weight issue, the F60 needed a diet and it's far too big and heavy for what it is. The F55 to F75 series were better in this respect. Think of them as compact cameras with a prism (a cost saving pentamirror in the latter case), and they make sense. Compare with classic Nikon cameras and you'll be disappointed.

  • @Guairenito
    @Guairenito 2 роки тому +2

    "G" lenses use an internal autofocus mechanism that is different from the "D" lenses which relay on the screw drive autofocus system of the camera. D lenses can only do screw driven autofocus and G lenses do autofocus only by communicating with the camera through the electronic contacts. The Nikon F100 can autofocus a lens through electronic contacts or screw driven autofocus, that is why it can autofocus a G lens and also a D lens. Such is not the case with the F/N60 which can only provide screw driven autofocus but not autofocus through the electronic contacts, that is why it doesn't autofocus a G lens because G lenses don't have the screw driven autofocus. I hope I am being clear.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому +1

      the 28-80mm G lens does not have a screw driven auto focus, and yet the F60 focuses it...
      EDIT: I am wrong, I just checked, it is screw driven. I just assumed not because it was quiet.
      My bad.

    • @ronaldwhedon3924
      @ronaldwhedon3924 2 роки тому +1

      The g meant that they took out the aperture ring. Some g lenses are screw drive from the camera body. Nikon lens compatibility is atrocious. When I got my first EOS body I could not believe how compatible the lenses were.

    • @Guairenito
      @Guairenito 2 роки тому

      @@ronaldwhedon3924 yea, the first G lenses had screw driven autofocus but not many of them where manufactured since Nikon quickly changed the G lenses to be a more modern lens system with quicker autofocus due to autofocus through electronic contacts. But in summary, any lens with screw driven autofocus will autofocus with the N/F60; any lens without it, won't.
      I actually think that Nikon is one of the most versatile when it comes about lens compatibility. I can use AIS manual focus lenses with Digital bodies with metering read out with no issues, and there are PLENTY of those lenses out there and they are pretty affordable, and many of them offer great image quality even with digital sensors.

    • @ronaldwhedon3924
      @ronaldwhedon3924 2 роки тому

      @@Guairenito with any body cheaper or older than the d7000 series( not sure about d90), you lose metering entirely with AIS lenses.

    • @Guairenito
      @Guairenito 2 роки тому

      @@ronaldwhedon3924 yeap, you are right. It won't work do metering with the D5XXX or D3XXX series, not sure about the D90. Bit with any D7000, D7100, D7200 or any of the full frame cameras, no problem. Also the D7500 is limited in that regard.

  • @NPJensen
    @NPJensen 2 роки тому

    No surprise here. I have a few older Nikon AF cameras myself - F4, F90X and F50. They are all noisier, than my Canon gear. The F50 is my least sexy camera - ever. Sounds like you like the F100, so why not pick up a second one - I have done the same with my two favorite AF SLR cameras, because it makes sense from my perspective.
    I'm going to a local Ukraine rally myself tomorrow and I'm going with Canon SLR+DSLR gear to have lens compatibility. Hoping to get a picture of the mayor during his speech with the Ukrainian flag in the background. That would be my first "historic" photo, if I get it.

  • @jasminlambert6256
    @jasminlambert6256 Рік тому

    0:39 I use the rule of two with cars 😅

  • @LucaLombardiPhoto
    @LucaLombardiPhoto 11 місяців тому

    I have a F60 from when I was younger, what really keeps me from using it it's how ugly and boring it is! I'm sometimes tempted to put a roll in it but I always end up using my Yashica 35 gsn. The f60 just feels like a cheap dslr, with autofocus, auto this, auto that, no physical levers, and takes away most of the pleasure and the feeling of using something from a different era..!

  • @johnleftwich650
    @johnleftwich650 2 роки тому

    Curious why you might wind up with 2 F100s. I would think you would want to have 2 different models.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the question John. The reason why I may just end up with two F100s is for a few, I think, good reasons.
      1. Muscle memory. Think of it like owning two very different vehicles. I drive a truck and a car. The trucks gears are at the steering wheel but the cars are besides the seat. When I've been driving one for awhile I tend to reach for the wrong area when I switch to the other. If I own two F100s I'll be more inclined to adjust settings without thinking about it.
      2. If something goes wrong with one, it'll be easier to spot
      3. I really really like the f100 ;)

    • @johnleftwich650
      @johnleftwich650 2 роки тому

      @@AzrielKnight Ok. So you’re thinking of as more of a backup. I’m also in the market for the F100.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому +1

      Or a situation like the rally where i want a wide and a tele available on hand without switching lenses.

    • @berkeleygang1834
      @berkeleygang1834 2 роки тому

      @@AzrielKnight ... or color film in one, and B&W in the other?

  • @SgtPnkks
    @SgtPnkks 2 роки тому

    N60 supports g lenses but not af-s... The N80 supports af-s (I think the 75 and maybe the 65 might as well)

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      The 75 for sure, I've already tested it.

  • @randallstewart175
    @randallstewart175 2 роки тому

    As a long time Nikon user, I agree that the F100, may be the best combo of features and price you can find. However, if you are looking to spend very little money, IMO the 8008s (in the US), particularly with the MF-2 databack, is a total bargain. On ebay they are going in great shape for around $50-75, The 8008s alone has all the features you need and a better AF system than the prior models - not fast but fast enough (screw drive AF only here). The databack, which I normally would not use myself, acts as an add-on micro processor to upgrade to most of what was then the latest features. Perfect, not really, but what do you want for less than $100 in hand. I used mine for 10+ years as my only 35mm camera, then gave to to a promising new photographer (who didn't work out unhappily), and now has leapt from the sock drawer into the hands of another user. Still looks like new; still works perfectly.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it.

  • @zhangwilliam4090
    @zhangwilliam4090 2 роки тому

    Nikon F65 works great with G lens.

  • @JeffWernerIthacaNY
    @JeffWernerIthacaNY 2 роки тому

    man, definitely stick with champagne color if you can! Taking candid photos of people, you get very different reactions if the camera you're pointing at them looks outdated and plasticky. I dunno what the cutoff is but some cameras that Iook too super pro make people nervous.

  • @RickJohnson
    @RickJohnson 2 роки тому +1

    Is nobody else going to call out the hair "trim"?!

  • @thunder357cal
    @thunder357cal 2 роки тому

    Buy another f100 or an F5. I've both, but I prefer the f100.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      I'll definitely try the F5 at some point but it seems rather large. What does it offer that the F100 doesn't?

    • @gregcoatesphoto
      @gregcoatesphoto 2 роки тому

      @@AzrielKnight Speed and ruggedness. (I use mine for sports.) It's also very heavy, unfortunately.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the heads up

  • @CyrilViXP
    @CyrilViXP 2 роки тому

    This war is horrible… :( Thank you all for support, but we need to protect our skies…

  • @michaelc4917
    @michaelc4917 2 роки тому

    If money is no concern, go for a F5; otherwise a N90s is the best bang for your bucks.

    • @RickJohnson
      @RickJohnson 2 роки тому

      Money and arm strength. I recently sold my F5 because it's too much of a tank.

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому +1

      I think the f100 is about as big as i want to get.
      Maybe i'll sell my soul for an f6

  • @tomislavmiletic_
    @tomislavmiletic_ 2 роки тому

    $60, what, canadian? If US $60, the price is about there, course that camera costs about 60-70 EUR here in Europe. Now with that being said, in my mind it's overpriced, course here you can buy Canon EOS 500n for between 25-30 EUR any day of the week, what's in my mind a superior camera.

  • @muhammadshuman4465
    @muhammadshuman4465 6 місяців тому

    I found one for 6.5 bucks 😂

  • @ldstirling
    @ldstirling 2 роки тому

    Nikon F80 all day. It's 75% of an F100 for 30% of the price. Fully adjustable. Full suite of custom settings. Biggest drawback is that the camera won't meter with vintage Nikon Ai glass.
    Also, that 28-80mm lens is the bargain basement cheap-ass kit lens all these N50/N60 cameras came with. All plastic and rather crappy. The 70-210 you have is not a G lens at all, just a screw drive AF version of the decent Series E 70-210mm f/4 with shittier aperture specs. Why not get some actual nice, modern, used Nikon G lenses like a 70-200mm f/4G or a 24-120mm f/4G or a 35mm f/1.8G?

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the feedback.
      I will definitely look into the the F80, thanks for the suggestion, sounds appealing.
      I am aware of how D vs G lenses work, I should have made that more clear. I got the lens only as a placeholder until I could afford something better, it's as simple as that. I just wanted to have the focal length and then upgrade later on. It cost me 67USD and when something better comes in i'll also be able to do a comparison video if I want.
      p.s. I have the 35mm f1.8g and the 24-120mm, as shown in my video.

    • @ldstirling
      @ldstirling 2 роки тому

      @@AzrielKnight You have the newest 24-120mm f/4G, not the f/3.5-5.6?

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому

      That's right. Purchased with my D780

    • @michaelrasmussen3347
      @michaelrasmussen3347 2 роки тому

      @@AzrielKnight Also, the F80 has an available battery grip (MB-16) if that is something of interest. Sadly the F80 and F100 does not share the same battery grip - F100 uses the MB-15.

    • @ldstirling
      @ldstirling 2 роки тому

      @@AzrielKnight that makes sense. The 24-120mm f/4G has been the kit lens with the Nikon FX cameras for quite a while.

  • @alberte58
    @alberte58 2 роки тому

    Get a Nikon F6 and the serie is over …

    • @AzrielKnight
      @AzrielKnight  2 роки тому +1

      Man, I wish I had the cash for that, but it's not out of the question.

    • @Avangardphotography
      @Avangardphotography 2 роки тому

      Try hunting on Japanese Yahoo Auctions (Buyee) I had good luck with picking up some nice stuff like canon 1v for $600 there.