You've got me listening to the old stuff I was listening to when I was 15. Listened to Pipeline this morning and realized along with the TS I need to add a very short delay to get the sound.
Always love your Vids Ryan! Stumbled on the SA True Spring and knew you'd have a surfy demo. Love the demo and playing and that pedal is to die for for any surf aficionado. So drippy groovy cool. Getting one ASAP!
I play surf music and if I didn't know this was a pedal, I would swear it was a 100% real tank. My ear isn't that of a studio engineer's that can differentiate between chaotic reverb (in a confined pan) to that of a digital circuit board. If your ear is THAT good, you are probably picking apart every guitarist's gear at every live show you attend. This pedal is a winner for me but it has ONE major flaw, and that is you can't KICK it to get the CRASH of a real tank. It needs a dedicated KICK switch/intensity knob so we can all stop abusing our $600 reissues on stage :)
I agree. I wouldn't say flaw but there is ONE detail yet to be improved, which is the physicality of real springs. There is a randomness to them slightly crashing --when picking hard and with high dwell, that I didn't hear in the demo (I'm expecting my order to arrive soon), as well as the kicking loud crash. It could use a second switch to trigger the first (like some delays have trails), and double tap for the latter.
@@PureJadeKid Absolutely! Are you in a surf band? The genre is full of recordings of tanks either kicked or rocked with your foot. It's a signature sound of surf music, one of which is instantly recognizable to the genre. Yes, it IS musical.
Looks to be the same spring engine from the Ventris in a user friendly package. From an official email from Source Audio : "We essentially brought together two of our most heralded sounds in a single pedal," says Source Audio President, Roger Smith. "The spring reverbs from the Ventris Dual Reverb and the tremolo effects from the Vertigo Tremolo make for a spectacular combination." Sounds good.
I got into the nero software this afternoon and they have separate patches for the true tone and the ventris, i couldn't hear a real difference, but i'm assuming they are slightly different in some way.
I have since heard back from Source Audio and they stated they will likely be updating the Ventris to include ALL the new reverb algorithms from the True Spring, however they cannot include the new Tremolo algorithms (probably due to design differences).
Hi Ryan. Love your demos! I’m thinking about changing my reverb from my UAFX Golden Reverberator. Although it’s got a tone of options I’m not a massive fan of it’s a spring reverb options compared to my old MXR Reverb. I’m loving the sound of the Source Audio and thought I’d see what opinion was as I guess you’ve played them both if I remember. Thanks in advance.
Ooie, gooie, drippy reverby goodness from a tiny box of diodes and transistors? Oh yeah...this pedal sounds amazing! And three different wicked trem options as well? Hot damn...when is it being released, I NEED ONE!!!
Got this in the mail the other day.It's killer for playing older vibe stuff.The only thing that could have added to it is the addition of different tremelo wave shapes.Having a couple problems with the neuro presets,but Im sure those will be worked out.. Another awesome pedal by Source Audio.
Pity there’s no separate footswitch for the tremolo. The enclosure is big enough for one. I also like the fact on the Ventris it’s really easy to scroll through different settings by holding down the footswitch.
Hey there, thanks for the great videos on your channel. Just wondering- what's your opinion on this pedal compared to the Boss FRV-1 63' Pedal? The Fender 63' pedal sounds great to me in demos and not oversaturated, but I've *read* that it can really overpower your dry signal. I'm looking for something where the clarity of a chord progression won't get lost in the reverb, but the reverb can still sound huge. Which one would you recommend for a first reverb pedal in light of this question, and just in general?
the frv-1 was the best option on the market when it came out. It doesn't hold up well anymore, it gives a filtered sound over any drives before the pedal and can tend to be overly bright. I currently recommend the source audio true spring or the EHX Oceans 11 as my favorite surfy drip reverb pedals.
60 Cycle Hum I saw a demo with the Boss FRV-1, and with an overdrive pedal before it, the Boss noticeably decreased the gain (not sure about tone too). Are you saying the Source Audio True Spring eliminates that problem?
@@scotthutchens1556 the boss has a unique probelm with drive pedals run before it, it makes the drive sound filtered. Newer spring reverb pedals (true spring, oceans 11 and mr black super swell) do not have that problem.
Ryan, I bought the Oceans 11 last year because of you and now this ... Ha Ha .... I do like the Oceans 11 a lot, but this pedal has perked my ears a bit now
@@fruitiusmaximus925 Yup, even over the Surfy Bear. I did a kit build of the SB and mine was noisier and had more harsh overtones than the True Spring. Maybe the new SBs are better, and I’m not even sure they offer the kits anymore, but I was as surprised as anyone to prefer the TS to the SB. Still have the TS, nothing has ever toppled it for my drippy surf reverb needs. I would love to have a real deal Fender tank one day, but for now the TS is better than anything I’ve tried, surfy bear included.
@@al271987 I think I'm going to go with a Tre Verb, even though the sound is inferior, because I really like the layout and controls. It fits my pedalboard paradigm slightly better than the True Spring. ... We'll see if I stick with it, or if I end up bringing it back for a TS.
Ryan, when the Trem is set on, can you add it / turn it off by tapping the foot switch? The AmpliTube plug in is great; both the Ventris and Oceans 11 sounds just fine live, unless you are A/B ing them with a tank, or playing for a bunch of people who are very critically listening. I’ll take the pedalboard answer, although I still have a SurfyBear on the radar!
I saw that on your review later tonight - I really like both the Ventris and the Oceans 11 as pedalboard solutions, & couldn’t really dial in the trem well with the Offboard ‘verb in the Ventris...good news!
These demos often include "Walk, Don't Run" in them. The funny part is that the guitar on the recording doesn't seem to have spring reverb at all but rather some room reverb and a bit of tape echo. Springs do sound good on the song though and it's possible that the Ventures may have used Fender reverb when playing live.
You mentioned that you played in a punk band...You mentioned Dead Kennedys as a reference for the type of music...East Bay Ray sound was both clean and distorted . A .great band...
I don't play Surf, but Spring is the only verb I really use.Clearly , Source Audio have something here that's actually better than the real thing; Mr Black's Super Swell&Deluxe Plus equally so, - surprisingly flexible.The new Fender Tre Verb is 2in1, and I think even better than the Flint ~@ half the price.(prob going to be the personal play,- when you want a trem , but don't use it that much.).Gonna give the (lower fi )Oceans 11 a distant fifth,- to the eldest circuit of all, - the killer Spring Theory,- which will forever be in the sweet spots .Nice to be so accommodated.
Man, if this is $150 like the other one series pedals, it's going on my board, no question. Also, Ryan, I'd be interested in you checking out the Deadbeat Audio Reverberation Station. I've got their basic verb, the Void, and it sounds pretty good for as cheap as it is.
Ryan - after using this for a minute, how easy is it to access the presets? Can you access them without losing the stereo in? If I can create a couple presets where The trem is active, this will kick the Flint off my board. I was so disappointed that the Flint Trem is not in stereo.
I think its the best as far as sounding high quality and being a premium experience, in some ways the oceans 11 is more authenic compared to the fender 6g15 units, but thats because it does some of the unpleasant things fender reverb units do, lol. For an extra $100 I think the true spring is a great option vs the oceans 11 though. I wouldn't even recommend the FRV-1 at this point because it filters your dry signal in an unappealing way.
Ryan- I’m asking cause you’re King of all things reverb and you know it- did you not demo the Cathedral? Cause I sure can’t find it, unless I just suck at YouTubing today
@@60CycleHumcast well, you can’t have done everything dude. Just…almost everything. 😂 I just wanna know if it drips, of course. It’s pretty tweakable, and slightly tempting. But I don’t think it’s close enough to true spring or surfy bear spring to warrant the money. I’m scared of the spring. Inexpensive though, a billion going used for around $150 🤙 cheers Ry. #dripking #drippyrick 🤟😂
Regarding specifically spring, the Oceans 11 doesn't give you anywhere near the flexibility of this pedal. O11 has 0 amp spring sims and 1 6G15 sim. This pedal has 11 spring algorithms, including multiple outboard spring sims and multiple amp sims, you can select tank size etc... It also has algo's of spring blended with other things like Hall. If you are big into spring verb, then ithe True Spring is superior. If you are looking for a jack of all trades, O11 would be the way to go.
I love the Oceans 11 for it's great sound and simple design. I have the Ventris also (which has the same spring engine as this) but I ended up spending more time tweaking the settings than actually playing...Each to their own though.
For $250 you can buy a used Strymon Flint. Does the exact same thing. Not as washy as the True Spring, but you can still get a drip. Hands down, it is my all time favorite pedal.
The oceans 11 is a tone killing pig of a pedal. Way too high a price to pay for its pretty good drip. Makes my vintage amps sound like a line 6. Just horrible. YMMV.
I guess a lot depends on what they offer through the app as to whether to go with the Ocean's 11 or this. This may offer a slightly better spring tank for the core sound. But having the versatility of all the other reverb sounds on the 11 makes that extremely tempting. If the app offers some more options, this will likely be the one though.
In future a shootout, I'd like to see this pedal matched against the SolidGoldFX Surf Rider III. I suspect the drip is much better, but I'm curious how else it compares.
60 Cycle Hum For sure. I want to get the SB kit for myself as from all demos I’ve heard it sounds great. I wouldn’t use it as a pedal, I’d just sit it behind my amp and make a foot switch for it. Any analog pedal that gets that close to the original is going to fun though. I’m pissed I never bought the reissue fender tank when I had the chance. And this pedal you demo here is quite nice in itself.
Hi Ryan thnx for the demo, appreciate it. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t care for spring reverb over other reverb types like hall or plate or dynamic mode on Oceans 11 which makes me happy :)
I want to dabble in that surf sound and I think I like this pedal the best for the price. Surfy Bear too much money for me to dabble. Also, I think you just said your next t-shirt design… “I just want that drip”. 🤔
i dont know how it would hold up to a bass signal, but its not bright and shrill like many surfy reverbs, and in the software you can fine tune the low end EQ and even assign the low EQ to one of the knobs if you want.
Exactly? I was a beta tester on the LA Lady one series and have had the chorus and the tremolo and the big delay names are escaping me, I just didnt gel with them and its a super hassle with a stereo board to program them with a cable into your ios device
Hmm... Sounds very artificial to be honest. Yes it's drippy but not in a very ear pleasing way I think. For those who own and played real spring tank reverb units, this might be close enough for some, but there is a very significant depth and lushness that is dynamic and way more chaotic in its behaviour than what I'm hearing in this video. If it's the same spring reverb algorithm as the one in the Ventris then I'm not interested at all. Thanks for the video though.
Well, as a studio manager we have more than 30 units with various types of spring reverb tanks in them. I was not talking about the exact sound of a tank; as nobody really expect a simple digital pedal to sound 100% identical to the real deal. What I was referring to was the lack of warmth, depth and that well known dynamic - yet chaotic behaviour of the actual spring tanks, which I think could be better even in a digital realm. Just to make this even more clear, we are using Lexicon units on a daily basis and yet we also have two real Plate reverb units as well as each of these has its own unique sounds. I have purchased Ventris for its convenience, but was not impressed with the sounds it offers. The sound of most engines seem to be very wet at all times, and yes I have tried the Neuro app as well to no avail. The Plate engine was the only engine that relatively sounded usable to me and other musicians. Nothing against Source Audio but so far I did not hear anything special (other than them being very versatile units) sound-wise from them. Just my opinion.
konnektlive I’m honestly thankful that companies are starting to develop pedals that drip at all, if you are expecting a pedal to exceed the performance of the real thing we are are a ways off, but we are so much closer than we have ever been.
Sure, digital technology developed considerably fast with great results, and just having a DAW that does everything for us that could have taken the size of a big room is in itself wonderful. However, purely sound-wise, we are still using tubes which is a 1920s technology and getting that tube sound is still (rightfully) a challenge in the digital realm for many different technical reasons that I won't get into now. Similarly, I think we can have much better spring/plate reverb sounds in digital formats than what we already have, but I guess, marketing pressure, processing power limitations and to be honest ignorance by mostly lap people is keeping us from such goals. For instance, have you tried the relatively cheap IK Multimedia Ampltiube's Spring sound? It's unbelievably realistic yet not very known among guitar players for in my opinion only pure ignorance or bad marketing. Or have you tried the Audio Ease Altiverb spring tank complex hybrid IRs? Or the Overloud's hybrid reverb IRs that are becoming the industry standards for reverb plugins? ... I can go on an on, but I guess my point should be clear by now. So, I'm not sure if we are so much closer to be honest as closeness is a relative term. Maybe we are closer for more casual people to have access to relatively better algorithms that prior to now were only available in high end studio units, but overall I don't think sonically & sound-wise we have gone far enough since many decades ago. Lexicon units were with us since 80's? 90's and I have tried gazillion number of new units yet they (Lexicons) still sound the most usable hardware units IMHO and many others; on the other hand though, realistically we are using advanced and realistic hybrid IR technologies more and more everyday, so who knows really... maybe one of these plugin companies begin making those hybrid IRs into pedal formats? And then I think everybody will realize who much better spring tanks could sound!
konnektlive I haven’t used those plugins because I don’t play or record in a studio setting. I’m looking forward to any advances in technology that give everyday players access to drippy/surfy reverb sounds. You can cork sniff over your studio gear but the reality is that these new pedals that offer drippy reverbs that most every day players didn’t have access to a short year or two ago.
The flint has a pretty mediocre spring but the other two reverbs in that pedal are very nice. I hope the SA trems pan in stereo mode. I went with a Mobius over the flint cause panning is so much fun.
I'm sure Strymon would be taking more than a keen interest in all these spring tank emulations. The Flint is a killer pedal. Nothing matches it's 80's reverb (when run in stereo it has to be heard to be believed) IMHO. It is 6 years old and still sounds wonderful. Would love to see them really up the game and release a true spring tank reverb pedal with Trem.
![Our Fave Real Spring Reverb Pedal? [Surfy Bear, Echo Fix, White Whale, Headroom & Spring King]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EfEKjU-S_9Q/mqdefault.jpg)
We are entering a new golden age of surf music!
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no we aren't.
I appreciate how you explain every little thing. Thank you for teaching and sharing and dripping that tone all over UA-cam.
You've got me listening to the old stuff I was listening to when I was 15. Listened to Pipeline this morning and realized along with the TS I need to add a very short delay to get the sound.
Love the Ventures spring reverb sound!!! Delicious!!! Can't wait for the comparison video between this and the Oceans 11 pedal. Thanks Ryan!
This pedal nails a spring reverb tank!
you wish david
No, it sounds fake.
Don't you wish you had a neighbor like this guy?
Great demo - thank you for making this!
Always love your Vids Ryan! Stumbled on the SA True Spring and knew you'd have a surfy demo. Love the demo and playing and that pedal is to die for for any surf aficionado. So drippy groovy cool. Getting one ASAP!
First! Suck it!
I'm the first reply to the first comment, so I win.
Also, fantastic video.
I play surf music and if I didn't know this was a pedal, I would swear it was a 100% real tank. My ear isn't that of a studio engineer's that can differentiate between chaotic reverb (in a confined pan) to that of a digital circuit board. If your ear is THAT good, you are probably picking apart every guitarist's gear at every live show you attend. This pedal is a winner for me but it has ONE major flaw, and that is you can't KICK it to get the CRASH of a real tank. It needs a dedicated KICK switch/intensity knob so we can all stop abusing our $600 reissues on stage :)
did you noticed the oceeans 11 from EHX? They have also a good spring AND the Kick-thingy by double tap the switch!
Gellert cool peddle indeed
Kicking a real spring amp and hearing that crash is so traumatizing! How do people want that as a feature? Can it really be used musically? LOL.
I agree. I wouldn't say flaw but there is ONE detail yet to be improved, which is the physicality of real springs. There is a randomness to them slightly crashing --when picking hard and with high dwell, that I didn't hear in the demo (I'm expecting my order to arrive soon), as well as the kicking loud crash. It could use a second switch to trigger the first (like some delays have trails), and double tap for the latter.
@@PureJadeKid Absolutely!
Are you in a surf band? The genre is full of recordings of tanks either kicked or rocked with your foot. It's a signature sound of surf music, one of which is instantly recognizable to the genre. Yes, it IS musical.
I love ya. F them haters sir!!!!!! I get
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Agreed but did you see the price of that niceness?
Looks to be the same spring engine from the Ventris in a user friendly package. From an official email from Source Audio : "We essentially brought together two of our most heralded sounds in a single pedal," says Source Audio President, Roger Smith. "The spring reverbs from the Ventris Dual Reverb and the tremolo effects from the Vertigo Tremolo make for a spectacular combination."
Sounds good.
I got into the nero software this afternoon and they have separate patches for the true tone and the ventris, i couldn't hear a real difference, but i'm assuming they are slightly different in some way.
I have since heard back from Source Audio and they stated they will likely be updating the Ventris to include ALL the new reverb algorithms from the True Spring, however they cannot include the new Tremolo algorithms (probably due to design differences).
Did they give any idea of timeline for the Ventris port?
Hi Ryan. Love your demos! I’m thinking about changing my reverb from my UAFX Golden Reverberator. Although it’s got a tone of options I’m not a massive fan of it’s a spring reverb options compared to my old MXR Reverb. I’m loving the sound of the Source Audio and thought I’d see what opinion was as I guess you’ve played them both if I remember. Thanks in advance.
Ooie, gooie, drippy reverby goodness from a tiny box of diodes and transistors? Oh yeah...this pedal sounds amazing! And three different wicked trem options as well? Hot damn...when is it being released, I NEED ONE!!!
Got this in the mail the other day.It's killer for playing older vibe stuff.The only thing that could have added to it is the addition of different tremelo wave shapes.Having a couple problems with the neuro presets,but Im sure those will be worked out.. Another awesome pedal by Source Audio.
Source audio makes great gear. I have the Nemesis Delay and Gemeni Chorus and they are both top notch pedals
Great review, Ryan, and your playing's not too shabby either. Love the sound of this unit.
Just bought one. Thanks for the video!
Best playing I’ve heard from you yet. I think you might have a Mexican wrestling mask in your closet.
You've been cranking out videos lately. Can't wait for that shootout!
Great video Ryan. Awesome pedal.
Pity there’s no separate footswitch for the tremolo. The enclosure is big enough for one. I also like the fact on the Ventris it’s really easy to scroll through different settings by holding down the footswitch.
Hey there, thanks for the great videos on your channel. Just wondering- what's your opinion on this pedal compared to the Boss FRV-1 63' Pedal? The Fender 63' pedal sounds great to me in demos and not oversaturated, but I've *read* that it can really overpower your dry signal. I'm looking for something where the clarity of a chord progression won't get lost in the reverb, but the reverb can still sound huge. Which one would you recommend for a first reverb pedal in light of this question, and just in general?
the frv-1 was the best option on the market when it came out. It doesn't hold up well anymore, it gives a filtered sound over any drives before the pedal and can tend to be overly bright. I currently recommend the source audio true spring or the EHX Oceans 11 as my favorite surfy drip reverb pedals.
@@60CycleHumcast Thank you!
60 Cycle Hum I saw a demo with the Boss FRV-1, and with an overdrive pedal before it, the Boss noticeably decreased the gain (not sure about tone too). Are you saying the Source Audio True Spring eliminates that problem?
@@scotthutchens1556 the boss has a unique probelm with drive pedals run before it, it makes the drive sound filtered. Newer spring reverb pedals (true spring, oceans 11 and mr black super swell) do not have that problem.
60 Cycle Hum Thanks!
Ryan, I bought the Oceans 11 last year because of you and now this ... Ha Ha .... I do like the Oceans 11 a lot, but this pedal has perked my ears a bit now
Mr Ryan Reverb knows his Reverb effects!!!!
Sweet. I just got this pedal! Sounds great
Oooooooh this sounds great. Just a month after I bought an Oceans 11 too!
Same here, but a Reflecting Pool. Now I keep seeing all these great pedals that would have been a better choice and lower price.
@@fruitiusmaximus925 oh the Oceans 11 is long gone and the True Spring reigns supreme. I even prefer the TS over a surfy bear build I did.
@@al271987 No kidding? Even over the Surfy Bear?
@@fruitiusmaximus925 Yup, even over the Surfy Bear. I did a kit build of the SB and mine was noisier and had more harsh overtones than the True Spring. Maybe the new SBs are better, and I’m not even sure they offer the kits anymore, but I was as surprised as anyone to prefer the TS to the SB. Still have the TS, nothing has ever toppled it for my drippy surf reverb needs. I would love to have a real deal Fender tank one day, but for now the TS is better than anything I’ve tried, surfy bear included.
@@al271987 I think I'm going to go with a Tre Verb, even though the sound is inferior, because I really like the layout and controls. It fits my pedalboard paradigm slightly better than the True Spring.
... We'll see if I stick with it, or if I end up bringing it back for a TS.
O.M.G.!!!
I need this pedal yesterday!
🤘😎🎸🌊
Ryan, when the Trem is set on, can you add it / turn it off by tapping the foot switch?
The AmpliTube plug in is great; both the Ventris and Oceans 11 sounds just fine live, unless you are A/B ing them with a tank, or playing for a bunch of people who are very critically listening. I’ll take the pedalboard answer, although I still have a SurfyBear on the radar!
With the tap tempo switch, the trem can be turned on and off independently of the reverb. So yes. Surfy Bear is still great, this is great also :)
Thanks!
I saw that on your review later tonight - I really like both the Ventris and the Oceans 11 as pedalboard solutions, & couldn’t really dial in the trem well with the Offboard ‘verb in the Ventris...good news!
These demos often include "Walk, Don't Run" in them. The funny part is that the guitar on the recording doesn't seem to have spring reverb at all but rather some room reverb and a bit of tape echo. Springs do sound good on the song though and it's possible that the Ventures may have used Fender reverb when playing live.
love the drip
Hello
Ryan,
Is there the same pedal for singing (True Spring).
What do you think?
Thank you for your answer
Gia
You mentioned that you played in a punk band...You mentioned Dead Kennedys as a reference for the type of music...East Bay Ray sound was both clean and distorted . A .great band...
Awesome pedal
Shit... this is honestly just bonkers I love it
i hesitated with the surfybear metal for dub music !!!!!! top reverb too the true spring
I don't play Surf, but Spring is the only verb I really use.Clearly , Source Audio have something here that's actually better than the real thing; Mr Black's Super Swell&Deluxe Plus equally so, - surprisingly flexible.The new Fender Tre Verb is 2in1, and I think even better than the Flint ~@ half the price.(prob going to be the personal play,- when you want a trem , but don't use it that much.).Gonna give the (lower fi )Oceans 11 a distant fifth,- to the eldest circuit of all, - the killer Spring Theory,- which will forever be in the sweet spots .Nice to be so accommodated.
Here we frickin goooooo.
Man, if this is $150 like the other one series pedals, it's going on my board, no question. Also, Ryan, I'd be interested in you checking out the Deadbeat Audio Reverberation Station. I've got their basic verb, the Void, and it sounds pretty good for as cheap as it is.
Ryan - after using this for a minute, how easy is it to access the presets? Can you access them without losing the stereo in? If I can create a couple presets where The trem is active, this will kick the Flint off my board. I was so disappointed that the Flint Trem is not in stereo.
Do you consider this one the best from the digital ones?
Closer to the real thing in comparison to the oceans 11 and the frv1?
Thanks
I think its the best as far as sounding high quality and being a premium experience, in some ways the oceans 11 is more authenic compared to the fender 6g15 units, but thats because it does some of the unpleasant things fender reverb units do, lol. For an extra $100 I think the true spring is a great option vs the oceans 11 though. I wouldn't even recommend the FRV-1 at this point because it filters your dry signal in an unappealing way.
But if you whap it on the side, can you hear the springs?
Source Audio True Spring Reverb vs mr black super swell spring reverb? i'm split between which one to buy.
I love it although I probably can't afford to buy one 👍
love the peddle
Great video. Can you use just a boss type 9 V connector to this pedal?
Would you say this is your favorite digital spring tank?
Ryan do you prefer a oceans 11 or the true spring. ?
Ryan- I’m asking cause you’re King of all things reverb and you know it- did you not demo the Cathedral? Cause I sure can’t find it, unless I just suck at YouTubing today
I don’t think I have.
@@60CycleHumcast well, you can’t have done everything dude. Just…almost everything. 😂 I just wanna know if it drips, of course. It’s pretty tweakable, and slightly tempting. But I don’t think it’s close enough to true spring or surfy bear spring to warrant the money. I’m scared of the spring. Inexpensive though, a billion going used for around $150 🤙 cheers Ry. #dripking #drippyrick 🤟😂
Deluxe Reverb in a box.
I really like it but I too find it a little too expensive. I'll have to wait a while and hope I can get it on sale someday.
I like it based on your review, but $250 is steep as compared to $150 for the Oceans 11.......Haven't made up my mind though yet.
Regarding specifically spring, the Oceans 11 doesn't give you anywhere near the flexibility of this pedal. O11 has 0 amp spring sims and 1 6G15 sim. This pedal has 11 spring algorithms, including multiple outboard spring sims and multiple amp sims, you can select tank size etc... It also has algo's of spring blended with other things like Hall. If you are big into spring verb, then ithe True Spring is superior. If you are looking for a jack of all trades, O11 would be the way to go.
I love the Oceans 11 for it's great sound and simple design. I have the Ventris also (which has the same spring engine as this) but I ended up spending more time tweaking the settings than actually playing...Each to their own though.
And compared with the surfy bear reverb?
For $250 you can buy a used Strymon Flint. Does the exact same thing. Not as washy as the True Spring, but you can still get a drip. Hands down, it is my all time favorite pedal.
The oceans 11 is a tone killing pig of a pedal. Way too high a price to pay for its pretty good drip. Makes my vintage amps sound like a line 6. Just horrible. YMMV.
I guess a lot depends on what they offer through the app as to whether to go with the Ocean's 11 or this. This may offer a slightly better spring tank for the core sound. But having the versatility of all the other reverb sounds on the 11 makes that extremely tempting. If the app offers some more options, this will likely be the one though.
thecaveofthedead I used both at a gig on Saturday, I’ll be doing a comparison video soon
Pleeease do a Oceans 11 Vs this pedal!
Do you think the Oceans kill your bypass signal?
In future a shootout, I'd like to see this pedal matched against the SolidGoldFX Surf Rider III. I suspect the drip is much better, but I'm curious how else it compares.
I had a surfrider for awhile, It doesn't drip much but it has a wonderful trail on it an a surfy voice.
Is it as the name implies true spring reverb?
Hey there. Can you demonstrate how the Tap Tempo “button” footswitch works?
Sounds good but I still think the Surfy Bear FET reverb sounds closest. It uses the same Fender 6G15 circuit and uses FETS in place of tubes.
Wolf H the surfy bear is great but pretty bulky. It’s neat to have some pedal format options now.
60 Cycle Hum
For sure. I want to get the SB kit for myself as from all demos I’ve heard it sounds great. I wouldn’t use it as a pedal, I’d just sit it behind my amp and make a foot switch for it.
Any analog pedal that gets that close to the original is going to fun though. I’m pissed I never bought the reissue fender tank when I had the chance.
And this pedal you demo here is quite nice in itself.
@@Wolf_K my surfy bear sounds very very close to my fender unit. its legit.
60 Cycle Hum
Cheers, man. I look forward to getting one,
Hey Ryan what's the amp you're using here?
What's your favorite reverb settings on this?
Is it better than the Ventris Spring Reverb?
Hi Ryan thnx for the demo, appreciate it. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t care for spring reverb over other reverb types like hall or plate or dynamic mode on Oceans 11 which makes me happy :)
What other pedal are you using with that
Silly question: so is this an actual spring reverb or is it a spring reverb emulator digital pedal?
It’s digital
I want to dabble in that surf sound and I think I like this pedal the best for the price. Surfy Bear too much money for me to dabble. Also, I think you just said your next t-shirt design… “I just want that drip”. 🤔
How do these engines compare to the Ventris engines?
It is the same engine taken from the ventris
This sounds insanely good for a pedal, anyone know if this will suck the bass out of my guitar signal like many other reverb pedals?
i dont know how it would hold up to a bass signal, but its not bright and shrill like many surfy reverbs, and in the software you can fine tune the low end EQ and even assign the low EQ to one of the knobs if you want.
Was this shot in a guitar store???
lol, nope, its my garage.
Neunaber Immerse Reverberator Mk II Reveal probably not a Spring sim but interesting
this or topanga?
Driiiiiiiiiiiiip!
How could it be a “true spring reverb”? 🤔
It sound good though, but “true”?
Sweet!!
I’m not a musician
But I like it soakin drippin wet
You did not deserve even one thumbs down whats wrong with people
I don't mind downvotes, i've heard youtube counts every interaction as a positive in analytics anyways.
I don't think anyone is AS excited about drippy reverb as you are, dude.
I am.
Niiiice
This sounds good, but the spring reverb and tremolos on The Strymon flint sound much better and more natural.
Please demo stereo pedals in stereoooooo!
Looks like you found an alternative for boss.
You were wrong about the price!
do you have a link them being sold anywhere? I'm curious to see if there is much difference between MAP and actual street value.
reverb.com lol
I wonder why the price difference
Exactly? I was a beta tester on the LA Lady one series and have had the chorus and the tremolo and the big delay names are escaping me, I just didnt gel with them and its a super hassle with a stereo board to program them with a cable into your ios device
I like Kmise price pedals from now on theysound just as good as the big name ones if you ask me and cost twenty bucks Kmise!!!
Its digital not real springs
Rude & nasty comment
It's pronounced 'tremolo" not "tremolo"!
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It just sounds so.. wet. 😀
It was at 2:05 that I realized this guy wasn’t bald. You Need to let it go in 2021
Are you telling me to shave my head?
Hmm... Sounds very artificial to be honest. Yes it's drippy but not in a very ear pleasing way I think. For those who own and played real spring tank reverb units, this might be close enough for some, but there is a very significant depth and lushness that is dynamic and way more chaotic in its behaviour than what I'm hearing in this video. If it's the same spring reverb algorithm as the one in the Ventris then I'm not interested at all. Thanks for the video though.
konnektlive if you want the exact sound of a unit then get a unit, I have a fender and a surfy bear and I prefer to gig with pedals.
Well, as a studio manager we have more than 30 units with various types of spring reverb tanks in them. I was not talking about the exact sound of a tank; as nobody really expect a simple digital pedal to sound 100% identical to the real deal. What I was referring to was the lack of warmth, depth and that well known dynamic - yet chaotic behaviour of the actual spring tanks, which I think could be better even in a digital realm. Just to make this even more clear, we are using Lexicon units on a daily basis and yet we also have two real Plate reverb units as well as each of these has its own unique sounds.
I have purchased Ventris for its convenience, but was not impressed with the sounds it offers. The sound of most engines seem to be very wet at all times, and yes I have tried the Neuro app as well to no avail. The Plate engine was the only engine that relatively sounded usable to me and other musicians. Nothing against Source Audio but so far I did not hear anything special (other than them being very versatile units) sound-wise from them. Just my opinion.
konnektlive I’m honestly thankful that companies are starting to develop pedals that drip at all, if you are expecting a pedal to exceed the performance of the real thing we are are a ways off, but we are so much closer than we have ever been.
Sure, digital technology developed considerably fast with great results, and just having a DAW that does everything for us that could have taken the size of a big room is in itself wonderful. However, purely sound-wise, we are still using tubes which is a 1920s technology and getting that tube sound is still (rightfully) a challenge in the digital realm for many different technical reasons that I won't get into now. Similarly, I think we can have much better spring/plate reverb sounds in digital formats than what we already have, but I guess, marketing pressure, processing power limitations and to be honest ignorance by mostly lap people is keeping us from such goals. For instance, have you tried the relatively cheap IK Multimedia Ampltiube's Spring sound? It's unbelievably realistic yet not very known among guitar players for in my opinion only pure ignorance or bad marketing. Or have you tried the Audio Ease Altiverb spring tank complex hybrid IRs? Or the Overloud's hybrid reverb IRs that are becoming the industry standards for reverb plugins? ... I can go on an on, but I guess my point should be clear by now.
So, I'm not sure if we are so much closer to be honest as closeness is a relative term. Maybe we are closer for more casual people to have access to relatively better algorithms that prior to now were only available in high end studio units, but overall I don't think sonically & sound-wise we have gone far enough since many decades ago. Lexicon units were with us since 80's? 90's and I have tried gazillion number of new units yet they (Lexicons) still sound the most usable hardware units IMHO and many others; on the other hand though, realistically we are using advanced and realistic hybrid IR technologies more and more everyday, so who knows really... maybe one of these plugin companies begin making those hybrid IRs into pedal formats? And then I think everybody will realize who much better spring tanks could sound!
konnektlive I haven’t used those plugins because I don’t play or record in a studio setting. I’m looking forward to any advances in technology that give everyday players access to drippy/surfy reverb sounds. You can cork sniff over your studio gear but the reality is that these new pedals that offer drippy reverbs that most every day players didn’t have access to a short year or two ago.
Good sounding but No analog pass through, competing with the Flint
Eric sin the flint is barely drippy tho
And no analog through on Flint when using the tremolo.
The flint has a pretty mediocre spring but the other two reverbs in that pedal are very nice. I hope the SA trems pan in stereo mode. I went with a Mobius over the flint cause panning is so much fun.
Both you feet two foot switches JK but seriously $229?
I'm sure Strymon would be taking more than a keen interest in all these spring tank emulations. The Flint is a killer pedal. Nothing matches it's 80's reverb (when run in stereo it has to be heard to be believed) IMHO. It is 6 years old and still sounds wonderful. Would love to see them really up the game and release a true spring tank reverb pedal with Trem.
That drip sounds fake as shit. It’s like one of those little electronic ray guy toys from the 80s.
fake no spring... 56 bit chip audio