George Floyd Toxicology Report: Explained
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2020
- George Floyd's toxicology report that was released with autopsy from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office was released week of June 1, 2020. Nothing in it absolves those officers, and the report confirms what we saw happen on camera.
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[0a] Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office Autopsy Report. 26 May 2020. www.hennepin.us/-/media/henne...
[0b] Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office Press Release. content.govdelivery.com/attac...
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R.I.P. George Floyd
I agree with the BLM idea, I just don't like the social justice movement.
Do you think removing police and hiring of social workers will help those neighborhoods who struggle with crime and drug abuse ?
Thank you for the subtitles!
I'm going to fact check this, give me 12 years of medical school and several years of residency and research. I'll get back to you.
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And.... What did you learn?
@@reggieoverton4437 wtf
@@PossumsDont69 WIP
In my addiction I was abusing fentanyl. I got really scared one night because I couldn't get a deep breath. I should have gone to the hospital but I didn't because I didn't want to get in trouble. After that day I decided that I needed to get help before I did accidentally kill myself. I have now been clean with the help of suboxone for almost 4 years and it was the best decision I ever made.
Congratulations
@@julieoelker1865 Thank you!!
I'm so proud of you, keep it up and don't give up
@@kayla-hn8zr Thank you so much, I really appreciate that.
@mak 10 What do you consider "clean clean"? If you are referring to the suboxone I plan on getting off of it soon. I do know that I can't just stop taking it. It has to be done slowly and I've already gone from taking the 8-2 twice a day to the 4-1 twice a day and I'm still doing well. Of course I have my bad days when I wish I had an opiate of some sort so that does worry me a little coming off the suboxone. I have had a lot of therapy in the past 3 years to deal with the reasons I was an addict in the first place so I think my chances for success are very good.
a man made a video about george floyd
this is what happened to his comment section
This is how his organs shutdown
@@jaydensavage689 oh no
He surprisingly didn't end up in the ER
This is what happened to his kneecaps
@@yungquagton This is what happened to his twitter feed
I'm a respiratory therapist. Never in any text book, in any classroom discussion, any clinical setting with any doctor or other therapist has the notion of increased chest wall rigidity from the norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor effect of fentanyl came up. I'm in a specialist position and I had absolutely no idea that this was out there. Thank you so much.
EILI5?
@@Jackson-tb1jy That area is probably made stronger by fetanyl, which prevents the signal hormone norepinephrine from getting there. Not a doctor or even a medical student, just guessing what they means. I think the point was that you have to be current with the medical literature, and that you can't expect you'll learn about that in school.
@@alext3811 I get their point. I was curious about the medical stuff
@@Jackson-tb1jy My bad, didn't realize that.
I agree with you in saying "the toxicology report doesn't absolve the officers", but I'd state that Floyd's actions absolve the officers. If you watch the full video, you can see them tell him to get out of his car and show his hands. He doesn't get out and he actually reaches back into his car. I'm surprised in America they didn't consider that as somebody trying to get a weapon and just shoot him. You hear the lady in his car even tell him repeatedly "stop resisting" and "just go with them" and stuff like that. If you resist arrest, you're going to get hurt (and in some tragic cases, you may actually die as a result of it, like this one). Don't resist arrest.
Or even better, don't rob a pregnant lady and then steal from a store in the first place and cops won't need to arrest you.
A man found a youtube channel. This is what happened to his sleeping schedule
I feel you on that 😂
Ughh, its 3:00am right now, I know what you mean lol.
Oh shit
@@TheExplosiveGuy yes man. It's 3:26 here. Been having bad times. Fell asleep after 6 am last night
I've never felt so attacked, by something that is so fucking true.
I'm impressed by his ability to express such complex ideas so easily for people with no background in the subject.
Multiple times more fentantanyl than what is considered lethal.
@@senselessnothing why are you spamming this? Gtfo
@ip2p p You are simple minded if you think that pharmaco- kinetics and dynamics are not complex subjects, sorry. Prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect right here.
@@senselessnothing I guess he didn't explain it simply enough for you to understand.
@@senselessnothing Nope. Not multiple times more. It was around average. LD50 means that 50 percent of people would die from that dosage, and he was a large, physically fit man. Doesn't change the near 9 minutes of a knee on his windpipe. How much more evidence does it take for someone like you?
My favorite part about your videos is the fact that you break down the doctor jargon to very basic terms. I'll never forget that -emia is presence in blood. Well done on this video, too.
I have that phrase in ind every once in awhile, out of the blue... but my favorite part is his sincere: "... and be well".
@@ulalaFrugilegathat's about it, see ya.
Same!!
Hypo means low
Hyper means high
Osteo means bones
Natri means sodium
Another thing to keep in mind is that tolerance builds very quickly with opioids. A "lethal dose" for an opioid naive person can be drastically different from someone with a long-standing daily habit. "Treat the patient, not the chart."
Exsactly esspically with fentnyl, herion you still get high even after months of use , with fent once you get a tolerance it doesn't do shit that's why I got sober in the first place because I was having to do it every few hours and it wasn't even fuckin doing anything I could do a gram of only fent and not get high at the peak of my addiction, and I was buying the shit that my dealer used to cut his herion with which is now shit Bec of tolerance but also fentanyl is more profitable so he just got very low quality h and threw the shit in thier
Would that tolerance be enough to survive a dose of fetanyl almost 4x lethal dose?
Go watch the video with the police body cam and you’ll see how high Floyd was. But yes the body begins to build a resistance to opioids requiring increase intake to have the same effect. However fentanyl in the smallest dosages have caused death and Floyd had fentanyl in his system . His cardiopulmonary status was already compromised due to use of opioids, atherosclerosis, Covid and age .
Doesn’t matter. He still had a dosage enough to kill him and he was reacting exactly as one would when dying of drugs.
@@zzodysseuszz *literal doctor explaining how it didn't look like he was overdosing on drugs in the video* wannabe youtube star: he clearly overdosed and died because of it.
Key message: Look at the patient when you are interpreting a lab report
yea but also you just need to look at the part of the report that says cause of death homicide lol god why is this even a debate
@@typoded the whole problem at hand is that homicide can either lead to manslaughter or murder charges. Now that the cop has been upgraded to murder 2nd they have to prove a lot more to convict him in court. They'll have to prove some how that the drugs in floyd's system couldn't be responsible for his death and that the cop was planning to murder floyd and this wasn't a spur of the moment thing. If they had kept the charges as manslaughter even if they proved that the drugs were 100% the cause of death the cop would still be guilty for not giving floyd proper medical treatment in time. It's because of the upgraded charge on the cop that this has become a debate.
@@typoded and he died because he had used fentanyl, if he didn't do drugs he would be alive to today.
@@alexstromberg7696 He died because he was executed by the police. You gonna blame smoking cigarettes too? If he didn't buy cigarettes there, he wouldn't have died. How about driving? He drove there before he died.
@@alexstromberg7696 After watching this video, how did you arrive at this conclusion?
A man hands a $20 dollar bill to a cashier. This is how society collapsed.
Legend
the butterfly effect my friend!!!!!!
@Chuck Norris yeah but a man died, so what's your point?
@Chuck Norris I might have read that wrong but if you didn't know the $20 bill was in fact real.
Nah george floyd could have avoided this all but he resisted arrest watch the full video its on yt
Wouldn’t we also need to know how frequently he typically uses fentanyl? I hear people can really become accustomed to the effects of opioids and tolerate doses that would be dangerous for novice users
Yep, absolutely correct. A dose for a regular user might be 2 to 4 times more than what would kill you or I. Tolerance is interesting like that. Its just even more reason that the fent wasn't what killed Floyd.
Yes, I was hit by a car and my doctor put me on fentanyl and I quickly built up a tolerance, I mean a huge tolerance to the point I decided no matter how much I took it did nothing and that would be a problem when I need surgery so I stopped taking it.
No; you look at the patient not some generalised data. He was alert, awake and showing effects no effects of fentanyl overdose, i.e. No iron chest a d the fentanyl had not been fully processed by his body. Go to school.
@@BigHenFor yeah I meant in addition to everything you mentioned, the individual’s level of tolerance would also be relevant. A more experienced user could have a much higher amount in their blood without overdosing. So if George was a more experienced user, then the blood levels would look even less significant than they already do from just observing his behavior. Clearly he didn’t die from an overdose. And I wish our country would stop moralizing opioid use, there’s nothing morally wrong with using opioids for pain (physical or emotional).
@@MrNecryptic 90% of the time? Do you have a source for that or is that just your perception of drug users? And what lifestyle exactly?
I thought it was more like 90% of the users of any drug are functioning adults in our society who are not addicted to them. That’s been my experience, most people using drugs have a lifestyle indistinguishable from any other citizen.
Those folks who do have problems with drug abuse also rarely lead “reprehensible” lives, troubled sure but it’s not as if all addicts start committing violent crimes
I love how you broke this down. I am an ex drug addict and it makes a lot of sense.
"I am an ex drug addict and it makes a lot of sense."
This doesn't give you credit.
@@mindlessfun4804 its not about credit, they were just expressing how their experience has correlated to parts of the video and how the video helped them understand their past drug addiction better
@@mindlessfun4804 Some drug addicts, like me, are PhDs...
@@mindlessfun4804 he has experience in the field fuck do you have?
@@mindlessfun4804Care to comment in retrospect⁉️
Whether he is black or white, if the handcuffed prisoner you have under your knee tells you "I can't breathe", you must raise your leg.
He's still a human.
You have 3 other people in case he somehow gets on his feet again and start fighting.
Whether he is a criminal or not, he's still a human.
Whether he is drugged or not, you don't kill anyone except for defence.
Or oil
I’m sure quite a few people who are getting arrested say stuff like that 🤷♀️ Better to just not put them in a position where you could kill them in the first place.
I agree but do you know how many fucking times suspects say they can't breathe just to get the officers away from them?
Floyd was handcuffed. He wasn't a threat. The officers were badly trained, irresponsible and absolutely idiotic!
Hi that’s why you adjust your hold instead of backing 20 feet away or whatever you seem to think cops would do if they respected someone’s life.
"...and that brings us to the courtroom, where we are now."
Do they have any cereal?
Sounds more like "LeagleEagles" to me
lmaoo
Sudden Chubbyemu and Legal Eagle crossover.
You sir, are a genius!
I think the last point is very important.
In the context of police behavior, it doesn't matter what ultimately killed Floyd. Restricting chest expansion and hindering both breathing and circulation at the neck increases the chance of death in any individual
Well, I’d say it does matter when it’s the difference between a charge of police misconduct and murder.
I’d think sentencing is carried out very differently depending on it.
@@naidoeshacks
You cannot assist someone in committing suicide, I don't see why this would not be judged along the same lines. If someone fell off a cliff or building and was bleeding out on the pavement. Taking out a knife and cutting them up would obviously, lead to the same result.
It's egregious police misconduct that resulted in his death. You can dress this turd up any way you want to but their actions created this entire scenario. Maybe we're not having this conversation if Chauvin doesn't kneel on him while he's laying face down on his chest. But he did, and Floyd died in that same position.
13:25 One minor thing: you mentioned that there was no indication that Floyd was suffocating before being put on the ground, however, from the bodycam footage it appears that he is complaining about inability to breathe while still being in the squad car and not yet on the ground. That seems like it conflicts with your analysis a bit.
That is the one problem I see with this video, too. On the other hand, it doesn’t really affect the conclusion that it is unlikely that the drugs alone caused his death. At most, you could argue that they impares his breathing. That would be absolutely exasperated by the way he was restrained.
@@Evangeliman well, doesn't it really though? Isn't the conclusion based precisely on the faulty assumption that there were no signs of breathing trouble before the restraint? The toxicology results seem to indicate that he did have a potentially lethal dose in his system.
And just to make things clear : I'm absolutely not justifying the use of the restraint in any way, but i do believe that the question whether Chauvin really caused Floyd's death is open and completely valid
He’s talking fine while saying it. Probably just a behavior to make it intentionally make things difficult for the cops
@@joeporter4920 Repeatedly yelling "I can't breathe" are not the actions of someone who is unable to breathe. Former wrestler, and I've said it the entire time: that pin does not suffocate a person. On top of that, how else do people expect a cop to handle a large and potentially dangerous man.
@@davidb8539
Literally every other medical professional will tell you the opposite. Speaking is exhaling, breathing is inhaling. You also say that pin does not suffocate a person but that COMPLETELY depends on multiple different factors to include their health and how hard they are pressing on them. FYI, they actually BRUISED him just so you get an idea of just how hard he was pressing down on his body. Also lets see you sit in that position for 8-10 mins and see how well you feel.
I know it’s not the subject of this video, but it makes me really happy/proud that he introduces his video as Dr. Bernard now!!! That’s an amazing achievement! Congrats!
Wait he wasn't a doctor before
@@ifthatthenthis3797 pretty sure he was a med student
Lol so I did A LOT of digging and he got his Doctor of Pharmacology over four years ago, so he’s been a doctor for quite some time. It seems like he started this channel after he finished, which makes sense.
I don’t know any med students who have enough time to make long youtube videos at least once a month. (I guess this could be loosely called “studying” but like...video editing and filming and stuff is super tedious so 90% of the work would not be the studying part.) I don’t know how PharmD programs work though, but I would expect it would be at least at the level of a PhD in terms of amount of work (and tbh becoming a full fledged doctor (med school + residency, possibly also fellowship) is more work than PhD), getting near to the end of your dissertation, you’re probably not doing much else if you’re focused (and he seems Very focused).
I suspect he gave his credentials at the beginning of the video to lend some authority to what he had to say, since this video is likely to attract people not familiar with his channel, and George Floyd is unfortunately a controversial subject.
I think it's because he mainly states that he is telling us all this from a complete professional point of view. Since this is kind of a sensitive topic.
Over here in the Netherlands, the title of "dr." is reserved for people who complete a PhD. Medical doctors are therefore not allowed to use the title of dr., as that would insinuate they have achieved such grade on the university. No idea if that's also the case in the U.S.. So it might be that he recently completed his PhD. Or perhaps he simply mentions it for new viewers.
“We call Chubbyemu to the stand”
carlos Rivas and send a link to the extra footage then
@@bajambus9091 don't worry his proof is "just trust me"
@carlos Rivas you're sick
@carlos Rivas yea yea ok, even if that is supposedly true, it doesn't grant them the right to treat him the way they did
@carlos Rivas well even if someone is uncooperative or high, you don't just put your knee on his neck for eight minutes straight until he dies. That's not controlling the criminal. That's murder. A cold blooded murder actually.
You should know this Doctor. If you can’t breathe you can’t speak.
The event that led immediately to Mr. Floyd being put on the ground by officers was their attempt to get Floyd into a police vehicle. Floyd said he couldn't get in the vehicle, that he could not breath, and then he collapsed by the vehicle. The police then forced him up and moved him to the section of street where he was famously put down and restrained. These details are overlooked in the conclusion that Floyd was in good condition prior having weight put on him. This is not to say officer conduct was not the legal cause of his death, but it is relevant to assessing how vulnerable he may have been to suffocation due to his toxicological state.
eh?
@@vicpariah3444Roughly, the fact that Floyd was complaining about his inability to breathe long before he was placed on the ground suggests that the drugs (or something else unrelated to the officer’s action) were a contributing cause of his death. This would not rule out their actions as the primary cause.
Yep, he was having breathing difficulties before he was on the floor which goes against everything Chubby Emu is saying. A very biased video.
@@PaulFeakinsIt doesn’t actually. It might alter things slightly but the conclusion is the same
My man Bernard summing up 2 years worth of biology classes in 18 minutes
And Health Science.
Where I’m from, Topics Health Science are not related to Biology. Which is why my health science teacher encourages for me to take it in grade 12, instead of 11.
This is why UA-cam is full of idiots. You jerks honestly believe you just absorbed two years of biology classes in 18 minutes, which cause both the stupidity you see every where, and the pretentions that go with it.
@@floridmike4696 , I did attend classes, I'm not saying you can learn high school biology in 18 minutes, I'm saying he explained a bit from each chapter really quickly
smh can't take a joke
If any white racist moron didnt get what chubbyemu said, hes basically saying that despite being on drugs, that he did NOT die due to overdose. he was murdered by choking
This is the kind of straightforward, factual information we need. If/when he has an opinion, he makes it clear. Thank you for posting this and being so thorough.
Yes I agree, and he's not being biased.
It smacks
I completely agree, the video is fantastic.
YOU'RE BLIND IF YOU THINK HE ISN'T SHOWING BIAS.
But he missed in some things like how he actually was drunk and was in drugs
The idea of this educated and positive man explaining to me, a scumbag, what a goof ball is has made me giggle
thank you for an excellent video, particularly so considering I'm viewing retrospective of the trial
I did a goofball once in Seattle in 2002 and I can't believe I didn't die. Speed dope and coke.
6 years off heroin and I'm so grateful
Sounds like a case for the defense of Derek chauvin.
Good.
@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess ha ha
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congrats fam
I loved heroin x coke it’s the best I’ve ever felt in my life, better than any conceivable drug, better than sex, better than anything.
And that’s why I’m so glad I had the strength to leave all of that behind
Many things in medicine share the same characteristics. Radiology reports will often state to look to Patient for determination. Thank you Dr for making things easy to understand. Much appreciated
You also listen to your patient, George Floyd said he couldn't breath before he was on the ground, also witnesses state he passed out in his car before. Quite important details he is not considering here. In reality the cause of death is not as clear cut as it seems, but in the end what Chauvin did is not correct either way.
Treat the patient, not the chart.
I didn't anticipate on watching the whole thing but you got me. Kudos
I appreciate the lack of backing music on this one. No dramatization, just your analysis. Great video as always! I definitely learned a few things from this one.
Background music is still absolutely necessary in normal videos
@@Akotski-ys9rr if "normal videos" mean not necessarily neutral, I agree :)
Touthenkube by “normal”, I mean almost every other video he’s posted
Normal video= When he is talking about “J. T.” Right?
I prefer if he played some hiphop or r&b in the background of this video but whatever. Missed opportunity I guess.
chubbyemu has a severe case of anime hair
haha
He's the real hokage
his hair gets worse every video
what about Jordan Sweeto? he's worse LMAO
It could be worse at least it's not hentai protagonist hair😂
British King George V died from a speedball. His physician later admitted that the King was dying and had laboured breathing and he decided to “help him along” with morphia and cocaine” in order to ease his suffering and to ensure his death could be announced in the morning papers rather than the less-prestigious evening editions had he held on into the next day. The same physician later, in his role in the House of Lords spoke and voted against legislation to allow assisted dying.
The person who did the second autopsy came to those conclusions not from looking at the body but from watching the video
They actually used the photographs and medical documentation of the first autopsy.
I want this man to be my lawyer and doctor
Me too 😔
He is a doctor. Just not a lawyer
Definitely doctor
Doctor and Weight Trainer aswell as a Dietitian.
@Aidan Eaglesfield you're a person of culture i see
Need to account for opiate tolerance. I’ve taken doses that would kill an opiate naive person.
If he was able to vocalize his symptoms of lack of air he was not overdosing.
Well if you can clearly say that you cannot breathe, then you can fucking breathe.
@@EyeOfJanuary no ❤
@@EyeOfJanuary Care to ask him now?
Well, plus I don't think its right to assume that he was doing these drugs illegally like a lot of people are assuming. Daily Desoxyn and a Fentanyl patch would basically account for the dosing in his blood. He could have an illness or chronic pain that required that medication. It's even more worrying when you rewatch the video and the police officer told the onlookers don't do drugs. Sadly a lot of officers do not understand how to properly deal with individuals who have to take medication like that legally and in some cases treat them as if they are a drug addict.
@@Commodore4eva ok, what about the meth? Got a perscription from doctor White?
If he has a habit, his tolerance would play a huge part in how intoxicated he was or not. Plus if he has speed in his system, it would likely counteract the effect of an overdose. Again, with a tolerance to both, it’s highly unlikely an overdose occurred. I’m sure he didn’t try fentanyl and meth for the first time that same day. Most overdoses,at least the ones I’m personally familiar with, occur when benzos and fentanyl or heroin are mixed. I didn’t see any benzos in his system. These overdoses (and Floyd’s death) are really just another symptom of the drug war. That’s what puts cops in contact with people that don’t really need to be arrested. The more potent the criminal statutes get, the more potent and unpredictable the opioids get. When was the last opium overdose you heard about?
I’m an RN & I really appreciate both your channel & this episode!
The basic thing is : if I fight someone drunk, I punch him. He falls and die from the fall... I still killed him. Without my intervention he would have lived. He may have died later from.other reasons, but ultimately, I was the cause. My punch caused the death. It's the same in this case. No matter how you look at it. If the police officer would have removed his weight from the neck and chest, George would have lived. Maybe died from overdose later, who knows. But what was the cause of the death was the direct interaction with the police
Or if the other person wasn't s fu king drunk moron picking fights
Ethan Wright you need help bro what that cop did was wrong no questions asked. The move he used shouldn’t have been used for more than a minute or so according to experts in the art. No cop should be kneeling on someone’s neck for nearly 9 minutes e v e r. There was no threat. he was unarmed, he wasn’t violent, yes he was resisting arrest but that’s something that a police officer should be trained to deal with. reacting that way just shows a lack of skill and incompetence and that shouldn’t be the case in the police departments that are here to ‘protect’ us. Please check yourself, your ignorance is showing.
@@ethanwright752 did you not watch the video?
@@lemonadaaa and he dealt with the resisting drugged thug accordingly, neck restraints are not illegal and floyd was a tall buff guy resisting arrest xD so he was posing a threat in a regular restraint.
@@ethanwright752 Did you even watch the video or did you go straight to the comment section? He was able to follow basic commands, speak, and he was aware of his surroundings. If he were being affected by drugs, he wouldn't be able to do these things. Although the drugs were probably a contributing factor in his death, the cop that kneeled on his neck and back was most likely played a large part in his death.
This deserves to be on trending.
It will be!
BLM will riot & destroy your city if it’s not.
@Actionbastard seek help
@@christinatoo801 So tel me why are you rioting??... enlighten me.. this should be entertaining.
share it then it might
We now need an explanation of the toxicology report on your hair.. 😆
Feels pretty surreal watching this.
Thank you for making this though.
I remember when i first found this channel, it was so small and i saw it as "Doctor creates youtube channel for hobby"
I always knew he would do really well making genuine and technically original content, now here he is sharing critically needed factual information on a topic so many people are losing there heads, and freedom over.
On his free time, a literal Samaritan.
Its more then just a youtube channel, its more then just one man's hobby, everything said was more then needed to be said, i am grateful to of even discovered this individual in the first place.
Thank you for sharing once again Dr Bernard, you are in my opinion the future of medical personnel, from everything from sharing this info along with a professionally educated opinion, to your career as a doctor, utilizing youtube as a form of communication, its brilliant, keep up the good work, and know that some of us see you as a pioneer in the field of medical practice.
Nicely stated!
Yea he blew up crazy fast, didn't he? Well deserved, I agree.
Amen
I Just remember following a slightly obese dude, who educated us along the way, while he kept losing weight while pumping iron, and suddenly there were alot of doctor ish videos.
well put.
I don’t believe enough can be said for those who’re extremely educated within a certain field, yet can articulate and simplify their findings and conclusions in a way in which the masses can easily process and understand.
Sadly, the masses too stupid to understand simple explanation, let alone explaining more complex analysis. The attention span for today people is less than 1sec.
@@analienfromouterspace the thing is they aren't actually stupid but just too lazy and tend to see medical terms as fancy words. This is why you need to focus in classes
Never trust someone who claims to understand something complex, but can't explain it in simple terms.
That just means they don't understand it, but merely memorized facts.
It's an incredibly difficult skill to have especially in our field of medicine.
7 years ago Dude...you got me! For about 5 seconds I couldn’t figure out why your reply said “7 Years Ago” and “7 Hours Ago.” LMAO! Classic!
I like how you emphasis that we have the video, and from there, we can judge what happen, and correlate with the report. Put another way, we aren't looking at the results and inferring. Well sure, you can do that... but we don't have to do that. The video helps explain it, and can rule out possibilities.
Aka you looked at the video before you looked at the corpse
Some outdated info in this video. So sad all those officers went to prison and there was so much civil unrest due to the actions of a man with a long criminal history that abused drugs. These officers were put in an unusual situation. No Chavin shouldn't have kneeled on his neck that long, but at best it was only a small contributing factor. If you watch the full body camera videos those officers were not abusive towards him, Chavin was actually very respectful and calm. It's possible he took the drugs that was on him because he was being confronted and that contributed to his death.
A court of law found Derek Chavin guilty of murder. Video evidence shows him kneeling on Floyd's neck, Floyd pleading 'I can't breathe', and his face then turning purple. Both autopsies found his cause of death to be homicide.
You can't dispute that.
Random cashier: "Hmmm this bill looks kinda fake"
1 week later the entirety of United States collapses
The sad part was that it wasn’t even fake :/
Yikes
It's crazy to think about the sequence of events that led to where we are now.
@@universaleliteinc.6554 are you sure of this. I read reports of ink on the bill being wet.
The Internet of Money a huh sure
It's kind of hard to believe that an officer doesn't know choking someone for 8 minutes might kill someone. Maybe he didn't _want_ to murder him, but it looks like he didn't really care if that did happen.
That is second degree murder, what you just described. And that’s what Chauvin is being charged with
They aren’t trained properly in how to use choke holds. That’s a big part of the issue.
@@gxtmfa he didn't need to choke hold him. He down with hand cuffs.
When a pulse was not found and he still didn't get off of him? You don't need training to know to get the fuck off of an unresponsive person and try to apply CPR
Maybe because the agents don't want to put their lives in danger by getting infected by a drug-crazed thug. He did resist getting in the cop car as said in the video.
It's intresting to me how Geroge was saying he could'nt breathe before he was put on the ground on the body cam footage. though I am not saying it's right to put anybody on the ground like that.
If he expressed he couldn’t breathe, an ambulance should have been called. Not a knee to the the trachea no matter what. Regardless of his tolerance, he would not have suffocated, but he did. By the relentless pressure to his body from another human despite his cries. Doesn’t matter if he was aspirating his own stomach contents or was in respiratory distress from pressure to his trachea, he deserved to simply breathe. All humans deserve compassion, you , we , I don’t know his story. Stop negative judgment. 😔
@@1cdonegan He was a carreer criminal who held a pregnant woman at gunpoint while he robbed her, Such a person does not deserve compassion.
Fantastic explanation of the report! Thank you.
As an ex junkie, this man's knowledge is ON POINT. He knew "goofball".... blew me away, really. Hats off to this man
He is an ER doc, they HAVE to know these things because so many patients are ODs.
Indeed. And, kudos for your remarkable achievement!
Except he failed to mention opiod TOLERANCE... the most important factor by a magnitude of 100
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@Your Favorite Sociologist cocaine has a short half life but meth does not. That's why people stay up for days on the stuff
Something that’s I was taught as an EMT that I STILL go by today that is VERY VERY important for healthcare providers is you always “treat the patient not the numbers” thank you so much for saying this, this is very important.
Why is it, you EMT’s always have to find a way to let people know you are an EMT.
Tony Manero maybe to show credentials that they’ve worked hard for?
@@valentinaliu6303 naah, usually its students or just early in profession. If you have to mention it, you dont have knowledge to back your opinion up, and use it as a sign of expertise.
@@Dd12389 I mean.. some people probably do that. Seems like a broad brush, but alright
@Kamal Khan you absolutely spot on dude. Also, did you ever attend school in Dearborn MI? You look very familiar bro?!
Will there be an update on this video done in the future? I don't want to be a troll but I would love to watch the response to the testimony and other information being provided from the court trial. Right or Wrong, I just want to know the truth of the matter from a scientifically explained manner that you provide in your videos.
The truth is simply a person who was not very healthy was causing issues and committed a crime of some kind. He resisted arrest. The police attempted to take him into custody. They got on top of him. He obviously became less and less of a threat yet the officers didnt adjust to that and the guy couldnt oxygenate himself enough to stay alive. The officers may have been right at first maybe. However, their lack of attention to how the situation was changing led to Floyd dying by them stopping his ability to get enough oxygen to his heart and brain.
@@alg7096 exactly, criminal negligence at its finest. Chauvin deserves every second of his sentence.
Confirmation bias is what your looking for. Not trolling, this is exactly what you are saying. That is how criminal defense attorneys and state attorneys operate. They are bringing in "experts" that justify their narrative of the situation. That's why they bring in others to discredit. Facts are facts. Which ones you choose to dismiss are solely on you. Your opinion has already been formed in your head. What I like about this video is the fact this man did not use any thing other than the facts of his health to show what was happening in his body from the use of his drugs.
@@alg7096 Completely agree except that we don't know whether he committed a crime. Unless you're referring to the use of illicit substances but the police didn't know about that when they arrived. But regarding the scenario about which the police were called, we can't know whether George Floyd was aware that the bills were counterfeit. I've been given counterfeit bills as change before and then unknowingly used them to buy things. However, I'm a small, shy young woman so people believed that it was accidental. Others may not be given the benefit of the doubt, especially large, black men who appear intoxicated.
@@jessileerichy Experts, no quotes. Real experts that know better than you.
Fucking trolls.
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Why is this not trending, better explanation than any news channel. By far.
*Chris Ibsen* wrote: _"... better explanation than any news channel."_
True, it is. But that means nothing considering how bad the news channels are.
Hans Lennros yea. News is shit. Everywhere. Tbf to the news channels chubby emu is a medical professional. But still
Oh you sweet summer child.
Because there wouldn't be drama for the news
Nobody listens to Asians.
The damage is done already. People are quick to make their conclusions at face value rather than think critically.
I agree which is sad because most of my family is this way
People keep looking for the "bigger picture" but don't realize that the meaning is already there. What are you trying to prove here exactly? That cops can't abuse their power?
I think the video try to justify George was fine before he got the knee on his neck. But it is hard to say because by the video he swallowed the drug during that time. I honestly don't know what killed him, or how hard the police press his knee.
For real tho, trump 2020
@@AD-kv9kj there are not normally police who murder and profile people in George Floyd’s case he got reported and got lead into being restrained
The police are dumb pieces of shit but they most likely did not racially profile him
Now people are hypocritical assholes that don’t know what they want and hate all or most police for the actions of a few
Most people are not racially profiled and viral videos of “police brutality” are completely justified reactions from police that are recorded by idiots who don’t know the law and take all context out of the videos
Some police are afraid to do there job because of violent pieces of trash who vow to kill police or hurt them
And the rioters at protests that steal things, damage things, and hurt police officers when they block traffic
Some protesters are non violent and want to change things
I don’t think there’s much that needs to change because its very good but not perfect
But they don’t do anything bad
I’m not saying that all police are good most of them are and in not saying all protesters are rioters
And I am saying that the George Floyd killing was unlawful and horrible
Sorry for sounding illiterate
I remember him yelling "I can't breathe" while sitting in the cop car
he was already having a medical episode when they crushed him
Welp he won't hold a pregnant woman up with a gun anymore
I have been in recovery for over 20 years and he most likely had a very high tolerance to opiates because of being a regular user. If someone who does not have a habit, say someone who just got out of jail and uses the same amount that was found in George Floyd's system, they would most likely overdose. I've seen this happen with many users , including my husband and father of my 3 children who died of a heroine/cocaine overdose shortly after serving 9 months for driving on a revoked license in 2001.
In the late 70s we had a habitual "legal" morphine addict at our hospital. He'd come in for various "pain" and get his morphine injections every 4 hours for a weekend or so. This occurred regularly because his doc was an idiot. The man came in finally for some actual REAL problem and had to have back surgery. We had to put him at the end of the hall away from the nurses station and close his door. (Yes, he was checked on regularly!) There was not a legal amount of any pain med we could give him that would last for more than a few minutes of pain relief. He was on multiple medications to attempt pain relief, but nothing really worked much or for long; so he screamed until he'd pass out from the pain. or until he was so hoarse he couldn't scream. His tolerance was so high from repeated "legal" abuse, nothing would help his pain when he truly needed it.
Yeah but. With all the time and what was done its clear that thats not it. If they stopped an alcoholic driving with so much in his blood that i would drop dead then kill him, and he didnt happen to down his last bottle 10min beforehand, there's no way to blame the alcohol for it. Might make him more sensitive sure. But they thought he was drunk. What they did for what he is accused of doing was excessive anyway. He said he cant breathe. Some i dont care - ish comments by chauvin. And the time. For no reason.
Thanks for your honesty.
damn america is tough
@@gur262 people need to stop acting like what they did was in direct relation to his offense, it's not. Once you're arrested (legally speaking) what you do after that has more effect than what your initial crime is.
He claimed he couldn't breathe before on the ground, said he was claustrophobic when they out him in the car, so they pulled him back out and he threw himself on the ground. What should a cop think when someone claims to be claustrophobic if put in a car, yet the man was just pulled him from his own car? A lie.
"A man had a knee pressed against his neck for eight minutes. What the hell do you think happened to his heart and lungs?"
The same thing that happened to thousands of other people who, over many years, received the same treatment because they resisted arrest. Did they just get lucky or are you just an idiot?
@@helifalic It's usually let up when they have them cuffed. Not for NEARLY NINE MINUTES YOU DOLT.
@@void9938 key word "usually."
Had he been sober, he most likely would've lived. Fentanyl and meth played a huge roll in him dying.
he would have lived if that maniac cop didn't choke him to death
Thank-you. You wrap things up very well, too.
Thank you so much for discussing this.
If the guy was as incapacitated as they are trying to allude to, why would you need to restrain him with a knee to the neck. He would just be lying there doing nothing.
Have you seen people on meth, bath salts, flakka? They can go nuts and have superhuman strength. The cops don't know what he has in his system, and he's huge. They were restraining him until the ambulance came. It was a fuckup, but multiple cops restraining a giant guy on drugs isn't abnormal.
@@jt203 If that were the case, perhaps use the knee on his back then
Knees on neck is an Israeli tactic these men were trained in. If you don't want our police acting this way end Israeli collusion.
HaqqAttak And how exactly will that solve the problem of systemic racism in the US?
@@jt203 in the UK or in any European police force the whole process would have been abnormal, it was murder plain and simple, so you use unreasonable force on someone who MIGHT go nuts?
i love how unbiased he is even though he's audibly and in a way visibly annoyed/pissed
Why I love watching his channel he keeps in in the middle not one side or the other
Nah bro he's not annoyed or pissed, he's just asian.
@@MartyrLoserKing he's not Asian. He's Vulcan. He's not emotional. He's rational, logical, and harshly honest as his Vulcan school taught him to be. His hair isn't out of control. It is carefully grown to conceal the points of his ears.
No, he doesn't look annoyed or pissed. You assume he is.
exactly. its soo intresting to watch
I appreciate your breakdown....i would like to point out with a slight outfit alteration. You'd look just like Spike from Cowboy bebop!
Woah good eye
just checking this, why he didn't add raising heart rate that cause by anxious.? look i have been an addict before, and i can tell you the fear because you positively being used drug while arrested by cop will make your body like being time bomb. your heart rate is so fast, not mention other hormone or anything else in your body.
This is one of the reasons that I love this channel: the unbiased breakdown of facts & the in-depth explanations. Very much appreciated!!
@B Almost uncomfortable, I mean I've almost forgotten what to do when confronted with a breakdown of facts that has a minimal bias.
@@scurvofpcp maybe you've been watching a lot of news and media channels recently lol 😂
@@manan-543 I mod a couple game servers. Seriously I've tried looking up some of that shit that people talk about in them and 99% of the time I find nothing.
Hey that's what science is about. Science shouldn't be for one side but for all baby.
If anything, the one thing I can't comprehend is why would Floyd remain in the area after being confronted about the fake bill? That to me seems weird. It's not as is he gave the 20 and they said it was fake there and they called the cops. Instead he gave the money, got his cigs, then the employee demanded the cigs back. . . in all honesty I feel the store should be held accountable to for confronting the potential criminal in the situation since it seems like basic common sense for an employee to not engage with a potential criminal. Like Jesus Christ, the dumb employee risked his life over 20 dollars, that's just stupid.
If it's fake is fake, call the cops, give a report and go about your day, but why instigate/escalate it so swiftly like this?
Even if the Fentanyl was a large contributor in Floyd's death, we run into an eggshell skull scenario; somebody being unexpectedly delicate does not absolve you of guilt for injuring them.
Except this isn't a civil suit, and when those factors are of your own choosing, the eggshell skull doesn't hold up. He chose to resist, he chose to break the law, he chose to take drugs. From a legal standpoint, he was in that situation of his own volition.
Bob, you are expecting the cops to be omniscient. They couldn't have known that the giant hulking guy was so fragile, that restraining him would kill him stone dead in under 9 minutes.
George went into that confrontation struggling to not get taken into the station by the police. If he had complied, he wouldn't be dead now.
@@SevScout This man was handcuffed. There was no need to hold him like that for 9 minutes.
totovader Floyd was not violently resisting arrest so the police had no valid reason to kill him
@@SevScout Show me the video where he was resisting arrest. Oh wait, you can't because he wasn't. I've seen all the angles he can barely hold himself up let alone resist.
Tolerance is something that can really mislead people, I've seen alcoholics become incoherent after one drink while other can finish a bottle and you would not have guessed it. Reading about fentanyl-related deaths (not this case obv) is becoming more common and is alarming, there really needs to be resources to educate people on the drugs they may want to take.
I wish this was done instead of making them illegal. In fact, this is what the EU did and their drug issues actually went down because they are actually SOLVING the problem.
This is my favorite channel. I am so glad I stumbled across this channel
Fentanyl activating opioid receptors can also suppress your brains ability to detect CO2 levels in the body, potentially causing a person to stop breathing
Or a knee on your neck with somone also compressing the lungs.
@@knowjusticeknowpeace1478 he died at the hospital
@@thepope2412 no he didn't. You can clearly see he became completely unresponsive about 3ish min into him being asphyxiated. He was heald for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. You can see when he goes completely limp. He was still a ragdoll when the cops dragged him to the stretcher. He was dead before the ambulance even got there. I'm a combat vet, U.S.M.C, and my wife works in emergency medicine.
kNOw Justice kNOw Peace George Floyd said “I am gonna die” before the officer hade his knee on his neck
@@knowjusticeknowpeace1478 Read his autopsy. Took his blood at 9:00 before he died. He was declared dead at 9:25.
One thing that he should have explained here is that "homicide" as a cause of death does not mean he was murdered. There are only 3 options to use between accidental, natural, and homicide. Homicide just means that you died due to another persons actions, it doesn't necessarily mean "murdered". Want to clarify that for so that there isn't any confusion.
It was the "Manner of Death" not even the cause
@@Ballox yes thats right. My bad.
@@Ballox I want to make it clear here though. Because it seems like nowadays people think that if you defend any kind of misinformation about one thing, that it means that you must not agree with the ENTIRE argument or some shit.
I 100% agree that the officer needs to be charged and should go to jail. From what I have seen 99% of people believe this. The next question is, on what charge? One thing that people need to understand, is that upgrading a charge to one that has a higher penalty, doesnt mean that the prosecutor is taking the case any more seriously, The same goes vice versa. If the prosecutor were to downgrade charges, it doesnt mean that he is taking it LESS seriously. Charges have to fit the crime, and upgrading or downgrading charges based on public outcry is a fools errand and is not equal justice under law.
Now, there is a decent chance that the officer gets off on 2nd degree murder. The reason being, the prosecutor has to prove that the cop had INTENT to kill Floyd. This is going to be VERY hard to prove. This LOOKS much more like the officer showed malicious disregard for Floyds life, which is 3rd degree murder.
Also, the cops being charged with "aiding and abetting", this will ALSO be VERY hard to prove. The cops simply standing around and not doing anything to stop the main cop doesnt constitute "aiding and abetting" under Minnesota law. Aiding and abetting is more a case where the cops knew about a crime and had intent to aid in the crime itself.
None of this is to suggest that the cops should be let free, quite the opposite. Because if they overcharge and the cops are acquitted, thats going to be very bad.
Same thing happened with George Zimmerman. The prosecutor saw all of the public outcry and wanted to charge with the highest possible penalty, without really caring too much about whether or not they could actually convict ON that charge. They failed to convict and now GZ is free.
We will see here in about a year or so i suppose.
@@undeadarmy19 to some, it's considered "murder", because chauvin had malicious intent. but i think many of us have the good sense to not push for the highest charge, because there is nothing really that can be used to prove premeditation, it was a decision made on the spot to possibly kill george. i know that when people were more worked up, everyone was bent on chauvin getting convicted of 1st degree, but the more level-headed folks on social media pointed out that it would be a failed conviction, which could complicate the matter at hand: prosecution.
cheryl The only sketchy thing is that they worked security at the same club for well over 10 years... They definitely must’ve known each other, if not have known *of* each other because this killer cop had a history of being a dick.
Thank you, for making this video.
You were wrong then and wrong now …. The cops did nothing wrong!
Chauvin is in prison if you aren’t aware
We now know this video was wrong. Get the new info.
@@notsocooldude7720 not for much longer.
@@michaeldomansky8497 lmao good luck with that
Thank you for speaking about the death certificate from a medical perspective! Lots of misinformation and misinterpretation going around
@@J0SHUAKANE Oh yeah I forgot resisting arrest carries the death penalty 🤔
@@Giaphaige and your point is??
@@Giaphaige Minnesota police code authorizes knee-on-neck restraint in the event of resistance to arrest.
@@TheMohawkNinja that makes it okay to murder him for no reason?
One of my best friends died alone in hes apartment from taking tramadol that actually contained fentanyl, he was also on speed. However the toxioligy report said no values where out of the ordinary. He's heart just stopped, he was alone in hes apartment, died sitting down in hes couch.
That's usually called accidental overdose. Meaning neither quantities were enough to OD from but the combination did it.
That's very tragic and sad. Sorry for your loss.
@@notsogreen people who do meth, speed and such dont really sleep as well and doing it for years, at some point The heart Will give out
I'm sorry for your loss. But if you don't mind me asking...how did the tramadol have fentanyl in it? Tramadol is a legal drug that falls under FDA guidelines. It shouldn't be possible to get tramadol with fentanyl in it. We're the pills maybe coated with fentanyl by a third party?
@@chewyjello1 tons of fake tramadol and benzos i Europe. Very rarely do pills come from pharmacy here. Most of the time they're from spain and real but sometimes they're fake and laced with fentanyl.
Edit: im from Sweden
But uuuuh, have you considered that
"hE wAs nO aNgEL"
Neither you nor I
atleast Jd didnt rob a pregnant woman at gun point
@@maslav4241 nah you did that
And JD did
8.8k dislikes from people who didn’t even try to watch the full video
they’re all emotional conservatives
cant tell if that was a troll reply
@@Neeuqaul It was if you're a right-winger.
Who’s here after the leaked video from the Daily Mail?
I am, this video did not age well.
@@ivanbanishtok7603 i mean yeah, new evidence surfaced, but chubbyemu was simply making an objective analysis given the evidence at the time
Pasha Staravoitau get emmm 😂
Classic signs of an OD going down , Claustrophobic buy just got out of a small van that he drove with his knees , lol ....Do drugs and die from Over Dose , resit an arrest and die from resisting . Should have sat his BBA down and waited for the ambulance . From the cam video , what did the other guy put in his pants ?
Yup
He was saying "I can't breathe" long before anyone stood on his neck...
And he asked to be put on the ground. Dude was possessed.
He was having an anxiety attack, while having heart conditions that makes someone hyperventilate
@@robsor85 he asked to be put on the ground not choked
@@sliverspoon195 You know what. I never watched the choking video. I just said. Justice will take its course. No need for anyone to carry on like they were/are doing. If the cops are bad they will face consequences. Then I watched the body cam footage. Then I went to see the "choking" part. The one that started it all.
How the F do you choke someone with a knee to the back of the neck? Air goes down the front! You can see him lifting his head. Twisting his body! How does he talk and talk and talk and talk while being "choked"? I can stop myself from talking with two fingers to the throat. These officers were trained to restrain perps with a knee. This is to keep their hands open and its effective. A small cop can keep a big guy firmly in place with one knee. Now Im sure its not fun....but he got himself in that position. If he hadn't talked so much shit and been so erratic and acted a fool by getting out of a perfectly good car seat to lay on the ground he would have lived...or died without anyone nearby. Or had been rushed to hospital. You watch the body cam video and you could loose count of the choices he made that lead to his death. Including taking a lethal load of drugs. Getting into a car with passengers to go for a drive. Every time he resisted.
If you take so many drugs you cannot get out one coherent sentence to save your own life.
"I sorry officer. I took drugs and I'm not feeling good"
"I took drugs and I can't breath"
If you cant sit still for two seconds to put cops at ease that you aren't planning to attack them while the cops put the gun away (which was never pointed anywhere near his face) within a minute.
They weren't preventing breath from entering his body. The only thing preventing his chest from inflating was his own body weight and the chemicals in his system. And the shit coming out of his mouth.
Everyone only assumes he chocked because he died but it just does not mesh. Cops likely thought he was finally calming down or falling asleep or passing out when he slowly...slowly... stopped talking. Honestly...how do you get so many words out when you are busy dying while being choked. Get real
Edit : Typos and edit: When I heard he was choked I assumed he had been lying on his back with a knee to his throat. Not on his stomach. Honestly this is so full of BS I cant believe it.
This guy caused a perfect alignment of shit to go wrong for himself and the officers that had the unfortunate job of dealing with his personal disaster in the making. That's how tragedies go I suppose
@@sliverspoon195 Have you ever hyperventilated? Talk much? If memory serves me you kinda give up talking to focus on breathing.
A followup video regarding the release of the officer bodycam footage which has Floyd saying "I can't breathe" since the beginning of the arrest process started
He was saying he couldn’t breath while in the cop car
Yet some people keep saying that he overdosed like a junkie. Chauvin's trial will be a terrible mess.
Remember that the burden of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Is it reasonable to suggest that Chauvin's actions would not have killed somebody who wasn't hopped up on illegal drugs? Why yes...yes it is. I think what he did was terrible and it was very clear to me that he was trying to make George Floyd uncomfortable, but Murder is not going to be that easy of a case to make.
@@connman8d617unless the judges are going to set an example he probably will be found guilty of manslaughter rather then murder, since murder is a very specific legal term.
At least he'll always be known as the monster he is.
@@connman8d617 Even with that point, his actions would've killed someone with asthma or any other of lung disease. So, whether it's illegal drugs or an underlying health condition, what does it matter? They're both technically underlying health conditions, the only difference is one is temporary. If someone says "I can't breathe." for 8+ minutes, I'm thinking any reasonable person would've showed at least a morsel of restraint. A police officer should naturally be trained in at least some form of basic observation, such as being able to observe whether or not a person is succumbing to death. So, there is no doubt a higher standard that should be held when it comes to trained police officers committing egregious acts of brutality.
@@connman8d617 You probably don't know what's my day job, and it's alright. But I knwo that criminal law is different in many countries but a 2nd degree murder charge is often similar through all jurisdictions, and it implies having a role in the death of someone else. We shouldn't care about the fact that the victim was fragile by nature, or at risk of cardiac arrest, or on drugs like Floyd for instance. Hence the overdosing comment...
How about he didn't overdose, but had just about enough shit in his system, to be frail enough for normal law enforcement to kill him? Reaching a conclusion without connecting all the dots is a really slippery slope.
I have never heard someone say “speedball” in such an articulate way.
Not even the surgeon general! Now, what's for breakfast...
Thank you for using your platform to talk about this
the autospy resported 5mg of fentanyl is his system, a lethal dose is 2mg. he wouldve died anyways. derrek probably shouldnt have kept his knee on him for that long, i think that was a stupid move from him, but that wasnt the cause of death. you could say he shouldve helped george when he stopped breathing, or the neumerous times he said he couldnt breath. he couldnt breath because of the OD, not derrek specifically.
You JUST saw an actual doctor explain to you why it wasn’t the drugs that killed him.
“A lethal dose is 2mg” lmao you’ve gotta be kidding me. Did you even watch the video? There is no single “lethal dose” that applies to everyone; there are so many variables that can change that amount drastically. He brought up some like body weight and fat %, and there are even more that he didn’t mention, like tolerance from previous use. It’s pretty unlikely that it was his first time having fentanyl, and the known variables like how big of a guy he was all point to him probably needing a higher dose than 2mg to kill him. Likely much higher, as in, higher than the amount that was actually found in his system.
As someone who has been given an overdose of fentynl and hydromorphone in hospital after a surgery, I know what that feels like. I stopped breathing after I passed out. It was put in my IV, I texted my husband, and then it hit. Couldn't even vocalize let alone move, and it was only a couple minutes later I wasn't breathing. That is what Dr. Bernard is describing with chin to chest.
my bro is beyond. chin to chest often. during mid convo.
Your personal experience doesn’t trump a professional medical doctors assessment. You’re just some random.
"Couldn't even vocalize let alone move"
So you definitely wouldn't have been able to shout "I cant breathe" dozens of times, loud enough for multiple witnesses to hear then?
Strange that eh? When you actually can't breathe, you can't talk either. Was that the performed miracle that earned old George his sainthood?
@@KSWA21 Doctors are not God and are not infallible you know.Your appeal to credentials fallacy makes your argument null and void. I have known and met many Doctors who are arrogant, ideologically driven assholes.
Okay, the point I was trying to make is that it didn't appear in the video that he was dying of an overdose, being as lucid as he was. I was adding anecdotal experience with a point Dr. Bernard made. Perhaps that wasn't clear. As for the overdose I experienced, it was a simple error when I was transfered. They were trying to help me, not hurt me, as I was in tremendous pain. I definitely do not pretend to understand everything that has happened in this case, or however irrelevant to the toxicology report, the character of Mr. Floyd.
For those that comment that if he could say "I can't breathe" so of course he could breathe, how many of you that have been choking or having an asthma attack say "I can't breathe" instead of the more accurate "I'm having a hard time breathing?" You blurt out the briefest message possible!
@FBar I think of a lot of people are offering a different perspective, like what the officer might be thinking, rather than simply being cold people
Edit: I shouldn't have to say this, but put my comment in context of the start of the thread and the person I replied to. I'm not agreeing with anything the officer did, rather defending the intents of the people who are offering the officers perspective
King Christophis i dont sympathize with killers
I think the even more obvious thing is, just because you can breathe out doesn't mean you can breathe in. Like you can speak and breathe out underwater, but you can't breathe in. Obviously, this isn't the same thing, but just an example of why that argument is stupid
@@krismine99 Hencewhy the second degree murder charge, where he did not plan on killing him but still did so.
Just because you didn't intend to do something, doesn't mean you're free of guilt.
@@krismine99 very few of the comments I've seen in defense of the officers hold any solid reasoning. Mostly it's "he was a criminal" or "he was on drugs" neither are grounds for an execution.
In the video he said he couldn’t breath while he was just sitting down in the cop vehicle, before the knee thing happened.
Regardless, he shouldnt have been choked out for 8 minutes.
@@AdviceFromAHipoCrite who are you arguing with? No one said anything about it not mattering about him getting a knee on him? The fact remains he couldn’t breath and was historical in the cop car.
@@AdviceFromAHipoCrite “
_”regardless, he shouldn’t…”_ just like the media, you try to minimize, downplay and even bury this very important and relevant fact
Wow. Great information. I wish I could go back time to study medicine and become a doctor.
Check the body cam footage now, George had been yelling he couldn't breathe for 20 minutes, how are they supposed to believe him ?
Maybe the hyperventilating from suddenly having a gun in your face caused that?
Also, even then it doesn't justify them murdering him.
it's called a panic attack which he mos likely was having. it's a constricting feeling
Drugs are bad kids. Mmmkay
@@Sminelo even if he was completely healthy, it is pretty clear the cop didn't mean to kill him, he should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.
@@Sminelo George killed himself. He was on drugs, passing counterfeit money, and resisting arrest. George Floyd killed himself!
Excellent video! I’ve worked in law enforcement for 13 1/2 years and love my job. I’ve worked my butt off to be a good Officer. I’ve had very few uses of force and none were ever excessive. When I first began my career we were taught to ALWAYS use the LEAST amount of force to control a situation when force has to be used.
I love this video because I learned a lot of things from it. Obviously I’m not a doctor so I don’t know everything that is medical in nature but this physician does an excellent job of explaining many things.
When I saw the video of what happened to George Floyd, I was extremely angry! I’m still extremely angry! What now former Officer Derek Chauvin did has no place in law enforcement and many innocent Officers have died around the Country because of his actions. Our jobs are now more difficult and more dangerous because of one persons actions and I hope he is held accountable for his actions!
That's a terrible and pathetic outlook to.destroy w.persons life and career and only job is to protect you. If you get shot who the fuc u callin? Oh yea the police
While it's totally possible the police at where I live (a suburb village) never used force in their career, I don't see it's inevitable for the police at where I work (the city of Chicago).
h d wow ok. The police helped a close friend of mine when they were in very dangerous situation. They save lives all the time. You’re generalizing like, EVERYONE when you say that. It’s a blessing that we have such amazing men and women that risk their lives for us. There is corruption in any place, unfortunately, but we should just rid of the corruption, not the police force as a whole! So please don’t encourage such chaos. Our nation is going through enough. The last thing we need is for us to lose the men and women protecting us.
@@panhellenism I don't typically support the police but envision how well society would go in armed America without consequences. If you don't see that as a negative than I assume you've never been around gun violence. There are many unhinged people in this country, abolishing police outright is an awful idea.
@@cliffwilkins9178 Did this "h d" person delete their comment? If so, what did it entail? I'd like to know what everyone is flaming him for.
I didn't see his face get purple.
Knee on " Nick" is normally used by police to people who don't comply and usually they don't die
thats somewhat true. they put him in the recovery position and were supposed to flip him over after a few seconds. they didnt do that and according to many professionals form the trial including the guy who did the autopsy that was the cause of his death.
@@moggingyou who did what autopsy? (Professionals) are usually just paid actors at this point.
@@maxHeadroom325rayxerin yeah the guy who did the second autopsy also did Mike Browns, basically someone you pay to give the cause of death you want.
@@moggingyou no, the reason of his death is being intoxicated. The police might have push him over the edge but they didn't know that he was intoxicated.
Point is (my original point) is that the police were NOT racist.
@@maxHeadroom325rayxerin well the government is probably not lying because they have no reason to lie
The fact that he was awake and responsive to verbal command negated the possibility of fentanyl induced apnea or wooden chest sd(WCS) Though not entirely clear what the MOA is for WCS, its usually related to potent opioid use at high dose bolus, ie during IV administration in surgery. Even that is rare. George Floyd was ok for the majority of the 8m46s when he was yelling “I can’t breathe”. It was not until the cop repositioned and occluded the carotid that killed George Floyd.
PS: the knee should have never been on the neck of anyone you are not trying to kill/ suffocate.
That was said in the video. What is you point?
No arteries on back of neck
This is exactly what Bernard said
D d that is not what Bernard said in the video... if you don’t notice the difference, you need to know a bit more about medicine.
Justin batchelar I meant kneeling on the side of the neck where the carotid artery is. That is what the officer did, intentionally or out of ignorance of the consequence. He clearly lacks the vigilance/ knowledge to check on the status of George Floyd/ his knee position. That is what’s wrong with his action, not all neck compression is equivalent. I guess I should have been more specific.
The one thing that was left out here is it is known that George Floyd started saying he couldn't breathe before he was pinned. This claim comes from the prosecutors.
He started saying he couldn't breath before they got him out of his own car. Someone just posted the 15 minute unedited bodycam video from one of the officers. I suspect that the drugs were a major contributor to his death.
@@nashvilleoutlaw did you even watch the video??? also most likely a panic attack that he was having, still doesn't justify them sitting on his neck to keep him from running tho
@@maiapohlhaus9734 he
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@@maiapohlhaus9734 The knee on his neck can be justified since at the time of the incident it was still legal for officers to use that restraining technique.
How does saying words change the autopsy? You guys are holding onto this detail like it changes the entire autopsy.
Proceeds to talk while being "unable to breathe"
You're smart
@@maxcj7 thanks
@@briocheman21 you're welcome
@@maxcj7 That’s dumb. He stopped talking when he was made unconscious by the offer yet continued to be choked, since cops are afraid of everything including unconscious people.
...is there supposed to be something wrong with that?
I'm well amazed by the references' number.. I even wrote my practical research paper and only 7 references are only I made out of RRLs and RRSs.. :3
"buttocks negative for occult trauma"
Geralt of Rivia: hmm
Miner 2049er hmm
Doctor Geralt and his autopsies lmao
Geralt woulda solved this within 10 seconds
@@yeetushmm6073 And him talking to himself when doing them. Lmao
The summary of the preliminary autopsy specifically ruled out "strangulation" and "traumatic asphyxia". That seemed incomplete to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "traumatic asphyxia" usually involves a substantial blunt impact that can immediately damage pulmonary blood vessels, right? Positional asphyxia isn't necessarily ruled out when "traumatic asphyxia" is ruled out, right?
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It's like the public was asking, "Did he die from officers inhibiting his ability to breathe?" and the report says, "He wasn't hit by a bus."
The report says cardiopulmonary arrest. One can argue thats what any person dies from. From the video i would suppose he was strangulated, from blockage of the carotid arteries, as the knee was on the side of his neck. But autopsie reports are more of a patophysiological diagnosis, than a medical diagnosis, at least in my country
So no, it probably was not asphyxia, it was strangulation
It also definitely did not help that people interpreted cardiac arrest as "heart attack". I've met several people who believed he died of spontaneous heart attack from fentanyl overdose.
@@RunItsTheCat cardiopulmonary arrest just means that your heart stops beating and you stop breathing. As i said before, one could argue thats what we all die from
LONE WOLF who did not watch the full footage? Was it chubbyemu or one of the commenters?
Go go, thank you for speaking up about this!
This should be revisited, but of course it never will...