The thematic strength of the Preterist view is that of God's historic judgement against the covenant breakers in Israel. Clearly much of the OT adheres to the following narrative pattern: God blesses the people in the land, the people turn toward idolatry, God brings judgement through pagan invasion and subjection (e.g. the Amalekites, the Assyrians, the Babylonians). And just as the OT prophets (including John the Baptist) warned the people--and were subsequently persecuted and/or killed--so Jesus confronted the unfaithful Jewish leadership (the parable of the tenants in Mark 12), was rejected and murdered. It then should seem perfectly consistent to us that God would send the Romans to destroy Jerusalem and the Temple.
And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him *the buildings of the temple* And Jesus said unto them, "See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, [question one] Tell us, when shall these things be? and [question two] what shall be the sign of thy coming, and [question three] of the end of the world? {Matthew 24:1-3} ... “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” {Matthew 24:34} Jesus continued, “Heaven and earth *shall pass away* but my words shall not pass away." {Matthew 24:35} -- We have a second (or third) witness in the Gospel according to Luke. “But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and *wrath upon this people* And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and *shall be led away captive into all nations* and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, *until the times of the Gentiles* be fulfilled. And there shall be *signs* in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And *then shall they see* the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” {Luke 21:23-28} -- We have a second (or third) witness in the Gospel according to Mark. “But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. *But* in those days, *after that tribulation* the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth [the first resurrection] to the uttermost part of heaven." {Mark 13:23-27} "after that tribulation" And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth [maketh intercession in judgment] for the children of thy people: and there shall be *a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation* even to that same time: and *at that time thy people shall be delivered* every one that shall be found written in the book. {Daniel 12:1} ...("whoso readeth, let him understand")
@@larrybedouin2921 Do we properly date John's Revelation by giving more authority to several Church Fathers, or do we place the authority with the words of Jesus in the Gospels? I'll take the latter.
@@mchristr Let the floods clap their hands: let the hills be joyful together. Before the LORD; for he cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness *shall he judge the world* and the people with equity. {Psalm 98:8-9}
@@larrybedouin2921 Indeed, the metaphoric language of Luke 21:23-28 is simply the ever increasing dimming of the 'light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ' the manifestation of which is the Great Tribulation, ie: all manner of false doctrine, heresies and false prophets, and of which you so correctly stated previously, the 'Church' is the sole object. DECEPTION is the greatest threat to the Church in these last days. Matthew 24:24 KJV - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. - end quote.
Revelation 13:1-10 the (conglomerate) beast from out of the sea. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and *ten horns* and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto *a leopard* and his feet were as the feet of *a bear* and his mouth as the mouth of *a lion* and *the dragon* gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. {Revelation 13:1-2} Greek > philosophy Persian > religious sects and monachism Babylonian > sun worship (Mithraism) Roman > law
I'm starting to get an eye twitch every time I hear someone waive away the miracle of prophecy by just chalking it up to " apocalyptic literature". It's like the authors set out to implement the best practices of a film school student rather than just retelling what they saw from God.
I apologize. I'm not understanding what you are saying. Are you saying that apocalyptic books like portions of Daniel, Ezekiel, and Revelation are not distinctive in their style? Are you saying that a plain, literalistic reading by anyone will reveal the deep truths and that they aren't more challenging than some other books? Obviously it's exactly what they saw from God. Why is it that Revelation is the #1 book that congregations want their pastors to preach on and clarify for them and it's also the same book that pastors are most intimidated by and reluctant to preach on?
This session was great, however, it’s frustrating that the Preterist approach is always represented in its unorthodox version. Also, we have a Bible full of prophecy and apocalyptic writings that we all agree that have been fulfilled in our past and have no problem understanding their application to us until we get to revelation. Revelation can have application to us even though it’s historical fulfillment is in our past. The middle way is not always the right way. We need to get away from this notion that middle way-ism is the right approach to interpretation. The eclectic approach makes for good sermons but quite the cop-out of interpretation.
articulate but flawed; example, how is Daniel 9 symbolic? Numerical but symbolic? how does the 70 years which are clearly literal, but not the remaining 70 weeks left for Israel? they are all literal, a timeline for Israel; not the same as beasts etc.. which are symbolic- Daniel explains them as such, but numbers are literal so use Scripture and OT consistently. Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel). If we spiritualize Israel, we end up with requiring a fertile imagination to create symbols and allegories rather than understand what Scripture is really depicting - an unfolding drama in which the nation of Israel forms the stage, the props and set design that are necessary until the very end - the last pages of Revelation - dismissing them in the first century and replacing them with the church completely undoes this canopy, leading to lack of a clear framework for interpreting how the OT (including the book of Joel) is integrated into the NT and constitutes a large part of the book of Revelation (as Joel rightly points out!)
The question is never wether we should interpret a passage literally or figuratively. Overall biblical narrative, genre, context, historical (OT) allusions, cultural norms, etc. all come into play. Hermeneutics is both art and science.
@@anthonylowder6687 When you read metaphor and take the symbols as the literal items and not what they represent, then you are not reading it correctly. It's error. You are not reading it literally, but literalistically (You have the appearance of being literal while ignoring the literary form). It's folly. Childish. But even the most literalistic interpreters of revelation will admit that some things are symbolic, yet they seem to be the gate keepers on when they drift between the two and can't seem to articulate what criteria they use when they do so. They are inconsistent with their own hermeneutic and they abuse the text.
The book is about christ and the things he's about to accomplish which God gave him to show his servants the things that must happen SOON, the servants were in the 7 churches ALL THE EVENTS DESCRIBED IN THE BOOK TOOK PLACE 2000YEARS AGO !!!!!!!
Preterist nonsense !!!!!! So all of the elect were saved? If all was fulfilled, this must be the case. Then your faith is all in vain and a mere delusion. I think you ought to revise your statement, brother.
@@joannsullivan4959 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him *the buildings of the temple* And Jesus said unto them, "See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, [question one] Tell us, when shall these things be? and [question two] what shall be the sign of thy coming, and [question three] of the end of the world? {Matthew 24:1-3} ... “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” {Matthew 24:34} Jesus continued, “Heaven and earth *shall pass away* but my words shall not pass away." {Matthew 24:35} -- We have a second (or third) witness in the Gospel according to Luke. “But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and *wrath upon this people* And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and *shall be led away captive into all nations* and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, *until the times of the Gentiles* be fulfilled. And there shall be *signs* in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And *then shall they see* the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” {Luke 21:23-28} -- We have a second (or third) witness in the Gospel according to Mark. “But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. *But* in those days, *after that tribulation* the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth [the first resurrection] to the uttermost part of heaven." {Mark 13:23-27} "after that tribulation" And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth [maketh intercession in judgment] for the children of thy people: and there shall be *a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation* even to that same time: and *at that time thy people shall be delivered* every one that shall be found written in the book. {Daniel 12:1} ...("whoso readeth, let him understand")
The symbolism of the seven seals are (seven) signatures as per - The ketubah, (“is written”) a Jewish marriage contract. The seven churches of Revelation gives us clues as to who the witnesses to the contract are. Ephesus > Adam Rev 2:5 " Remember therefore from whence you art fallin"... Smyrna < Noah Rev 2:8 " These things said the first and the last"... Pergamos > Abraham Rev 2:17 ..."and in the stone a new name written,"... Thyatira > Jacob / Israel Rev 2:28 "And I will give him the morning star." Sardis > Moses Rev 3:3 "Remember therefore how you have received and heard,"... Philadelphia > David Rev 3:7 ..."He that have the key of David"... Laodicea > Jesus Christ the Bridegroom and his bride, the Israel of God. --All pointing to dispensations of time in order of their time on earth. "He that have an ear, let him hear what the Spirit [singular] saith unto the churches" [plural]. (Repeated seven times, one for each church) “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the church[es]. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.” {Revelation 22:16} “Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;” {Revelation 1:16} --One body of Jesus Christ having *seven* dispensations of time (the spiritual condition of Christ church, and judgments....prophetic continuance) during the dispensation of Grace.
@@annablackburn5474 No! They falsely teach that the church of Philadelphia (Rev 3:10) is the church of their pre-tribulation rapture. They falsely teach that the tribulation is seven years, (found no place in the scriptures in clear text) confirming a day for a year principle of biblical time prophecies, all the while denying the principle of a day for a year of the Historicism method of biblical time prophecy interpitations. Without the church there is no need for a tribulation. The church will be the object of the tribulation. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, (the remnant church) and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, *which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ* {Revelation 12:17} Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near *in the valley of decision* {Joel 3:14} For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. {Ephesians 6:12} “And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.” {Matthew 24:6} For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. {1 Thessalonians 5:3}
@@larrybedouin2921 Dispensationalism teaches truth not error. The Pre-Tribulation, Premillennialism teaching is 100% Biblical every other teaching including Joel Beeke’s video talk is false.
@@anthonylowder6687 You haven't the love for the truth. And I saw another angel ascending *from the east* having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, *till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads* {Revelation 7:2-3} (These are already sealed with the Holy Spirit, so this is not speaking of being born again.) “For as the lightning *cometh out of the east* and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” {Matthew 24:7} And, behold, *the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east* and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory. {Ezekiel 43:2} And *the sixth angel* poured out his vial [plague] upon the great river Euphrates; and the water [support] thereof was dried up, *that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared* (And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, *to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty* "Behold, I come as a thief. *Blessed is he that watcheth and keepeth his garments* lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.") And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, *It is done* {Revelation 16:12-17}
@@anthonylowder6687 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God. For true and righteous are his judgments: for *he hath judged the great whore* which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. {Revelation 19:1-2} ... Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb *is come* and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, *These are the true sayings of God* {Revelation 19:7-9}👈 ^ Describing events after Armageddon and the seven last plagues.
This was wonderful!!! Thanks so much for sharing!
The thematic strength of the Preterist view is that of God's historic judgement against the covenant breakers in Israel. Clearly much of the OT adheres to the following narrative pattern: God blesses the people in the land, the people turn toward idolatry, God brings judgement through pagan invasion and subjection (e.g. the Amalekites, the Assyrians, the Babylonians). And just as the OT prophets (including John the Baptist) warned the people--and were subsequently persecuted and/or killed--so Jesus confronted the unfaithful Jewish leadership (the parable of the tenants in Mark 12), was rejected and murdered. It then should seem perfectly consistent to us that God would send the Romans to destroy Jerusalem and the Temple.
And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him *the buildings of the temple*
And Jesus said unto them, "See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, [question one] Tell us, when shall these things be? and [question two] what shall be the sign of thy coming, and [question three] of the end of the world?
{Matthew 24:1-3}
...
“Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”
{Matthew 24:34}
Jesus continued,
“Heaven and earth *shall pass away* but my words shall not pass away."
{Matthew 24:35}
-- We have a second (or third) witness in the Gospel according to Luke.
“But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and *wrath upon this people*
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and *shall be led away captive into all nations* and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, *until the times of the Gentiles* be fulfilled.
And there shall be *signs* in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
And *then shall they see* the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.”
{Luke 21:23-28}
-- We have a second (or third) witness in the Gospel according to Mark.
“But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
*But* in those days, *after that tribulation* the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth [the first resurrection] to the uttermost part of heaven."
{Mark 13:23-27}
"after that tribulation"
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth [maketh intercession in judgment] for the children of thy people: and there shall be *a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation* even to that same time: and *at that time thy people shall be delivered* every one that shall be found written in the book.
{Daniel 12:1}
...("whoso readeth, let him understand")
@@larrybedouin2921 Do we properly date John's Revelation by giving more authority to several Church Fathers, or do we place the authority with the words of Jesus in the Gospels? I'll take the latter.
@@mchristr
We have non biblical sources that confirms the date.
@@mchristr
Let the floods clap their hands: let the hills be joyful together.
Before the LORD; for he cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness *shall he judge the world* and the people with equity.
{Psalm 98:8-9}
@@larrybedouin2921 Indeed, the metaphoric language of Luke 21:23-28 is simply the ever increasing dimming of the 'light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ' the manifestation of which is the Great Tribulation, ie: all manner of false doctrine, heresies and false prophets, and of which you so correctly stated previously, the 'Church' is the sole object. DECEPTION is the greatest threat to the Church in these last days. Matthew 24:24 KJV - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. - end quote.
It’s all over
GALATIANS 5:22,23
But the fruit of the Spirit is
💘
Revelation 13:1-10 the (conglomerate) beast from out of the sea.
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and *ten horns* and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto *a leopard* and his feet were as the feet of *a bear* and his mouth as the mouth of *a lion* and *the dragon* gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
{Revelation 13:1-2}
Greek > philosophy
Persian > religious sects and monachism
Babylonian > sun worship (Mithraism)
Roman > law
I'm starting to get an eye twitch every time I hear someone waive away the miracle of prophecy by just chalking it up to " apocalyptic literature". It's like the authors set out to implement the best practices of a film school student rather than just retelling what they saw from God.
I apologize. I'm not understanding what you are saying. Are you saying that apocalyptic books like portions of Daniel, Ezekiel, and Revelation are not distinctive in their style? Are you saying that a plain, literalistic reading by anyone will reveal the deep truths and that they aren't more challenging than some other books? Obviously it's exactly what they saw from God. Why is it that Revelation is the #1 book that congregations want their pastors to preach on and clarify for them and it's also the same book that pastors are most intimidated by and reluctant to preach on?
This session was great, however, it’s frustrating that the Preterist approach is always represented in its unorthodox version. Also, we have a Bible full of prophecy and apocalyptic writings that we all agree that have been fulfilled in our past and have no problem understanding their application to us until we get to revelation. Revelation can have application to us even though it’s historical fulfillment is in our past. The middle way is not always the right way. We need to get away from this notion that middle way-ism is the right approach to interpretation. The eclectic approach makes for good sermons but quite the cop-out of interpretation.
And yet not one mention of Israel in this entire lecture!
Romans 9
The enemies of Christ still reign in Jerusalem, persecuting believers and doing evil. As they did 2000 years ago. What do you do with that?
articulate but flawed; example, how is Daniel 9 symbolic? Numerical but symbolic? how does the 70 years which are clearly literal, but not the remaining 70 weeks left for Israel? they are all literal, a timeline for Israel; not the same as beasts etc.. which are symbolic- Daniel explains them as such, but numbers are literal so use Scripture and OT consistently. Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel). If we spiritualize Israel, we end up with requiring a fertile imagination to create symbols and allegories rather than understand what Scripture is really depicting - an unfolding drama in which the nation of Israel forms the stage, the props and set design that are necessary until the very end - the last pages of Revelation - dismissing them in the first century and replacing them with the church completely undoes this canopy, leading to lack of a clear framework for interpreting how the OT (including the book of Joel) is integrated into the NT and constitutes a large part of the book of Revelation (as Joel rightly points out!)
The question is never wether we should interpret a passage literally or figuratively. Overall biblical narrative, genre, context, historical (OT) allusions, cultural norms, etc. all come into play. Hermeneutics is both art and science.
@@mchristr There is only one way to interpret Scripture…..literally.
@@anthonylowder6687 When you read metaphor and take the symbols as the literal items and not what they represent, then you are not reading it correctly. It's error. You are not reading it literally, but literalistically (You have the appearance of being literal while ignoring the literary form). It's folly. Childish. But even the most literalistic interpreters of revelation will admit that some things are symbolic, yet they seem to be the gate keepers on when they drift between the two and can't seem to articulate what criteria they use when they do so. They are inconsistent with their own hermeneutic and they abuse the text.
The book is about christ and the things he's about to accomplish
which God gave him to show his servants the things that must happen SOON, the servants were in the 7 churches ALL THE EVENTS DESCRIBED IN THE BOOK TOOK PLACE 2000YEARS AGO !!!!!!!
Preterist nonsense !!!!!!
So all of the elect were saved? If all was fulfilled, this must be the case. Then your faith is all in vain and a mere delusion. I think you ought to revise your statement, brother.
He said they would soon begin
@@joannsullivan4959
And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him *the buildings of the temple*
And Jesus said unto them, "See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, [question one] Tell us, when shall these things be? and [question two] what shall be the sign of thy coming, and [question three] of the end of the world?
{Matthew 24:1-3}
...
“Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”
{Matthew 24:34}
Jesus continued,
“Heaven and earth *shall pass away* but my words shall not pass away."
{Matthew 24:35}
-- We have a second (or third) witness in the Gospel according to Luke.
“But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and *wrath upon this people*
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and *shall be led away captive into all nations* and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, *until the times of the Gentiles* be fulfilled.
And there shall be *signs* in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
And *then shall they see* the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.”
{Luke 21:23-28}
-- We have a second (or third) witness in the Gospel according to Mark.
“But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
*But* in those days, *after that tribulation* the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth [the first resurrection] to the uttermost part of heaven."
{Mark 13:23-27}
"after that tribulation"
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth [maketh intercession in judgment] for the children of thy people: and there shall be *a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation* even to that same time: and *at that time thy people shall be delivered* every one that shall be found written in the book.
{Daniel 12:1}
...("whoso readeth, let him understand")
The symbolism of the seven seals are (seven) signatures as per - The ketubah, (“is written”) a Jewish marriage contract.
The seven churches of Revelation gives us clues as to who the witnesses to the contract are.
Ephesus > Adam
Rev 2:5 " Remember therefore from whence you art fallin"...
Smyrna < Noah
Rev 2:8 " These things said the first and the last"...
Pergamos > Abraham
Rev 2:17 ..."and in the stone a new name written,"...
Thyatira > Jacob / Israel
Rev 2:28 "And I will give him the morning star."
Sardis > Moses
Rev 3:3 "Remember therefore how you have received and heard,"...
Philadelphia > David
Rev 3:7 ..."He that have the key of David"...
Laodicea > Jesus Christ the Bridegroom and his bride, the Israel of God.
--All pointing to dispensations of time in order of their time on earth.
"He that have an ear, let him hear what the Spirit [singular] saith unto the churches" [plural].
(Repeated seven times, one for each church)
“I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the church[es]. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”
{Revelation 22:16}
“Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;”
{Revelation 1:16}
--One body of Jesus Christ having *seven* dispensations of time (the spiritual condition of Christ church, and judgments....prophetic continuance) during the dispensation of Grace.
Is this what dispensationalists teach?
@@annablackburn5474
No! They falsely teach that the church of Philadelphia (Rev 3:10) is the church of their pre-tribulation rapture.
They falsely teach that the tribulation is seven years, (found no place in the scriptures in clear text) confirming a day for a year principle of biblical time prophecies, all the while denying the principle of a day for a year of the Historicism method of biblical time prophecy interpitations.
Without the church there is no need for a tribulation. The church will be the object of the tribulation.
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, (the remnant church) and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, *which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ*
{Revelation 12:17}
Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near *in the valley of decision*
{Joel 3:14}
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
{Ephesians 6:12}
“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.”
{Matthew 24:6}
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
{1 Thessalonians 5:3}
@@larrybedouin2921 Dispensationalism teaches truth not error. The Pre-Tribulation, Premillennialism teaching is 100% Biblical every other teaching including Joel Beeke’s video talk is false.
@@anthonylowder6687
You haven't the love for the truth.
And I saw another angel ascending *from the east* having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, *till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads*
{Revelation 7:2-3}
(These are already sealed with the Holy Spirit, so this is not speaking of being born again.)
“For as the lightning *cometh out of the east* and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
{Matthew 24:7}
And, behold, *the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east* and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.
{Ezekiel 43:2}
And *the sixth angel* poured out his vial [plague] upon the great river Euphrates; and the water [support] thereof was dried up, *that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared*
(And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, *to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty*
"Behold, I come as a thief. *Blessed is he that watcheth and keepeth his garments* lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.")
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, *It is done*
{Revelation 16:12-17}
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And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God.
For true and righteous are his judgments: for *he hath judged the great whore* which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
{Revelation 19:1-2}
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Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb *is come* and his wife hath made herself ready.
And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, *These are the true sayings of God*
{Revelation 19:7-9}👈
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Describing events after Armageddon and the seven last plagues.