Vernon, how many times must I tell you that you are using a false analogy? You cannot compare man-made items with biological systems, as the latter is capable of reproduction. Please employ better arguments if you want to be taken seriously.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 It works fine, it upsets you doesn't it? It's that simple. 6 elements out of 98 weaving themselves into a cell capable of evolving. If they didn't weave themselves? What did?
It doesn’t work fine, that’s why it’s upsetting. You cannot compare man made objects that can’t self assemble to living organisms which are observed to self assemble, and reproduce sexually/asexually, not via the hands of machine and man in a factory.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440because Vernon doesn’t care. He’s going to reappear the same stupid arguments over and again. He’s as useless as he is stupid.
Time and time again, I found what others taught me to be either wrong, or illogical. Many people have called me arrogant, because I seek the answers, myself and do not take for granted statements of "fact" by "authorities."
Maybe because your wrong, you don’t need to blindly follow authorities to find evolution to be true, in fact you are taught the opposite, you are taught to be skeptical. But when a theory has so much evidence that it gets elevated beyond gravity maybe you just aren’t the brightest Bulb by trying to deny it
@@notscythe what we've ACTUALLY observed. 100% of the time, kinds only produce after their kind. Humans produce humans, cats produce cats, whales produce whales. There has NEVER been an observation that challenges this. Not once has a fish produced an amphibian, or an amphibian produced a lizard, or a lizard produced a bird, or rat, etc. Never. "But over billions of years!" Where have we witnessed billions of years? There is an abundance of evidence proving deep time is false. Observable and measurable evidence where the conclusion necessarily follows the premise. So, we don't observe deep time, or a change of kinds. So, where is this "abundance of evidence" for it? Only in your mind.
@@notscythe not circular argument, it is deductive reasoning. Declare Jesus as your Lord, believe in your heart that God raised him from death and you will be saved (Romans 10:9).
@@refuse2bdcvd324 you literally said the Bible is the word of god because the Bible says it’s the word of god, is that not a circle. I will not be declaring Jesus as anything more than a failed apocalyptic preacher
Or, as Newton said, "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." But of course that did not mean that he just accepted whatever his illustrious forebears told him, now did it? We defer to authority out of necessity or convenience; not out of principle.
Life teaches you, but u have to listen to ur intuition in order to granulate or toss information put in your ears or seen by ur eyes. We all make mistakes. Otherwise, we dont learn thru the hard road. Even God uses or weaknesses in order to grow in life, thought, experience and spirit. Not everyone listens to what others say or do. I question everything...
The burden of proof lies upon the person making the positive assertion, which is: "There is a god!" If you can't provide evidence for that claim, then others can simply disregard that claim. Similarly, if someone were to claim that fluffy unicorns and invisible flying monkeys exist, but they fail to provide evidence for those claims, then you would also believe their claims to be false. Why would it be any different when the matter pertains to supernatural entities?
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 the "a" means without. The "theism" means God. Atheism is the claim there is not God. Where is the proof and evidence for atheism?
@@therealdonaldtrump9567incorrect, but I live it when you people decide to make up your own definitions for words 😂😂😂 What evidence are you looking for? Evidence that we don’t believe your claims?
Inconsistent belief criteria. Some things we take for granted as truth with a single read on a Google news feed Some things we will never believe with all the evidence in the world, especially when it's regarding God.
repent and follow Jesus, Jesus is the only way to Eternal Life, all who Believes on Jesus will be Saved, the Word of God says: John 3:16-17 NIV For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
We rely on experts' knowledge because they use an evidence-based approach to justify their claims, which can also be reviewed by the layperson. This is completely unlike religious belief, which relies on words written in ancient books that have not been demonstrated to be factual or historical.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 Says the guy who denies scientific facts just because they contradict his own personal beliefs about hypothetical organisms. That doesn't sound logical to me!
@@therealdonaldtrump9567stop asking this dumb question, everyone is telling you that atheism is not a claim, in the same way that not believing in Santa is not a claim. You need to provide evidence not us. This isn’t some gotcha you just look really ignorant saying this over and over again
It always comes down to God's word vs. man's word. I'll take God's word 🙏
How do you know what gods word is?
@@Columbo-r4z how do we know? Because Jesus has saved us. That's how we know. Christians know more than you think.
@@IAMhassentyou
I don’t see how that answers my question.
@@Columbo-r4z "I don't see...."
Because if God's word wasn't true then we would not be able to find salvation.
@@IAMhassentyou
How do you know you’re saved?
This is also a big problem with doctors. Very few of them think for themselves.
Excellent 👏👏👏 the bible has everything that we need.
Does it tell you how to construct a home? Does it provide nutrients to live?
@@Bomtombadi1 Yes, Jesus is all we need, he will give you the wisdom and provide everything you need.
@@raquelgage4398except for anything relevant and useful
A person can be passionate and still be passionately wrong. I think that's your point, right?
Yes, and evolutionists are wrong.
Human logic is flawed. We cannot rely on it alone if we are to find the truth of God. That's why we need God's word to help.
And how do you know what gods word is?
@@Columbo-r4z - Christian -
@@SK-bw2cv ???
Correct!
@@refuse2bdcvd324 👍👍
It all depends on who we are willing to listen to.
No, it should be who has more evidence
Epistemic uncertainty about many claims of "science" is a good attitude to take. Narratives change all the time.
I know tapestries and baskets can't weave themselves anymore than the elements "weaved" themselves into a cell capable of evolving.
Vernon, how many times must I tell you that you are using a false analogy? You cannot compare man-made items with biological systems, as the latter is capable of reproduction. Please employ better arguments if you want to be taken seriously.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 It works fine, it upsets you doesn't it? It's that simple. 6 elements out of 98 weaving themselves into a cell capable of evolving. If they didn't weave themselves? What did?
It doesn’t work fine, that’s why it’s upsetting. You cannot compare man made objects that can’t self assemble to living organisms which are observed to self assemble, and reproduce sexually/asexually, not via the hands of machine and man in a factory.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440because Vernon doesn’t care. He’s going to reappear the same stupid arguments over and again. He’s as useless as he is stupid.
Time and time again, I found what others taught me to be either wrong, or illogical.
Many people have called me arrogant, because I seek the answers, myself and do not take for granted statements of "fact" by "authorities."
Maybe because your wrong, you don’t need to blindly follow authorities to find evolution to be true, in fact you are taught the opposite, you are taught to be skeptical. But when a theory has so much evidence that it gets elevated beyond gravity maybe you just aren’t the brightest Bulb by trying to deny it
@@notscythe except there is literally no evidence for evolution. Therefore, to believe in it, isn't something you'd come up with on your own.
@@notscythe what we've ACTUALLY observed. 100% of the time, kinds only produce after their kind. Humans produce humans, cats produce cats, whales produce whales. There has NEVER been an observation that challenges this.
Not once has a fish produced an amphibian, or an amphibian produced a lizard, or a lizard produced a bird, or rat, etc. Never.
"But over billions of years!" Where have we witnessed billions of years? There is an abundance of evidence proving deep time is false. Observable and measurable evidence where the conclusion necessarily follows the premise.
So, we don't observe deep time, or a change of kinds. So, where is this "abundance of evidence" for it?
Only in your mind.
@@noneyabidness9644 define kind
@@noneyabidness9644 this is the most ignorant statement ever made
Our own thoughts and desires are oftentimes enough to get us into trouble.
I'd rather rely on somebody greater than I.
Make Your own decisions.
You also have to think why an almighty God gave us wisdom. It is so we can life morally and justly and be a beacon of hope to our neighbors.
... What? We gained wisdom from learning the world around us... Gods have nothing to do with anything
We know the Bible is historically accurate because the author is the top authority in every field.
Leave it to you to cry that you’re being cyber bullyied.
@@Bomtombadi1 I wish you loved following Jesus as much as you love following me around.
That was the most circular argument of all the circular arguments. Have you never thought why that makes zero sense
@@notscythe not circular argument, it is deductive reasoning. Declare Jesus as your Lord, believe in your heart that God raised him from death and you will be saved (Romans 10:9).
@@refuse2bdcvd324 you literally said the Bible is the word of god because the Bible says it’s the word of god, is that not a circle. I will not be declaring Jesus as anything more than a failed apocalyptic preacher
The best way to learn is through his word. That's where I go.
I find that cracking open any other book is far better.
@@Bomtombadi1 too bad for you, man.
@@Romans1soldierok you use the bible and I’ll use science books and we’ll see who can become a doctor first 😂😂😂
@@tims5268😂😂😂
Man's word claiming to be a god?
Or, as Newton said, "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." But of course that did not mean that he just accepted whatever his illustrious forebears told him, now did it? We defer to authority out of necessity or convenience; not out of principle.
Life teaches you,
but u have to listen to ur intuition in order to granulate or toss information put in your ears or seen by ur eyes.
We all make mistakes. Otherwise, we dont learn thru the hard road.
Even God uses or weaknesses in order to grow in life, thought, experience and spirit.
Not everyone listens to what others say or do.
I question everything...
I know what I know because knowledge is the universal acceptance of what is....
Not what you want what to be...
Where is the proof and evidence for atheism?
The burden of proof lies upon the person making the positive assertion, which is: "There is a god!" If you can't provide evidence for that claim, then others can simply disregard that claim. Similarly, if someone were to claim that fluffy unicorns and invisible flying monkeys exist, but they fail to provide evidence for those claims, then you would also believe their claims to be false. Why would it be any different when the matter pertains to supernatural entities?
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 the "a" means without. The "theism" means God. Atheism is the claim there is not God. Where is the proof and evidence for atheism?
@@therealdonaldtrump9567incorrect, but I live it when you people decide to make up your own definitions for words 😂😂😂
What evidence are you looking for? Evidence that we don’t believe your claims?
@@Bomtombadi1 where is the evidence for your claim that there is no God?
Nonexistent
Inconsistent belief criteria. Some things we take for granted as truth with a single read on a Google news feed Some things we will never believe with all the evidence in the world, especially when it's regarding God.
Speak for yourself.
It’s easy to fall into this relativity plea. But it leave people questioning everything and standing on nothing.
No, it isn't. So long as your knowledge is based on evidence, you have nothing to worry about.
Many evolutionists are sincere and yet they are sincerely wrong 🙏🙏🙏
Have you asked this question from yourself...
*Like the authority of religious leaders & the bible! Both of which have zero evidence.*
More i see less i know
"Humans are fallible."
Just wait until this guy finds out who wrote the bible.
“Perfectly written inspiration from the word of god”
@@Bomtombadi1
Who wrote that?
@@Columbo-r4z creationists and their double-standard.
repent and follow Jesus, Jesus is the only way to Eternal Life, all who Believes on Jesus will be Saved, the Word of God says: John 3:16-17 NIV
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Nope
The question is: how do know what is true?
We rely on experts' knowledge because they use an evidence-based approach to justify their claims, which can also be reviewed by the layperson. This is completely unlike religious belief, which relies on words written in ancient books that have not been demonstrated to be factual or historical.
If you bother getting an education, you'll know things by doing them for yourself.
No, I'm not talking about Chrstianity.
What does this word salad have to do with anything?
You wouldn’t understand. It’s called logic
@@Transmutathan Science is how we discover things about Nature, buddy. What are you trying to insinuate?
@@HS-zk5nn Says the guy who denies scientific facts just because they contradict his own personal beliefs. That doesn't sound logical to me!
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 Says the guy who denies scientific facts just because they contradict his own personal beliefs about hypothetical organisms. That doesn't sound logical to me!
@@HS-zk5nnwhat scientific facts are being denied when it comes to the theory of evolution
This question leads many Christian’s out of their god delusion.
Why does people overwhelmingly feel better when they believe?
Where's the proof and evidence for atheism?
@@HS-zk5nn Because religious beliefs provide comfort. That doesn't mean that they are true.
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 so its a good thing
@@therealdonaldtrump9567stop asking this dumb question, everyone is telling you that atheism is not a claim, in the same way that not believing in Santa is not a claim. You need to provide evidence not us. This isn’t some gotcha you just look really ignorant saying this over and over again