Large OREA V3 Brewing Method - 1 & 2 Cups!
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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2 Cups method
30 g Coffee - medium grind size (25 Comandante)
500 g Water - 93 C (then follow my tips)
45/50 interval between pours
first pour - 110 g
second pour - 120 g
Third pour - 130 g
Fourth pour - 140 g
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00:00 Intro
00:56 Difference Between Small and Large Orea V3
01:46 How to Place the Kalita FIlter 185
02:56 The Brewing Method
03:47 Brewing Time!
07:05 Brewing Tips!
09:09 2 Cup Brewing Suggestion
10:01 Conclusion - Розваги
I like videos where a person learns something useful and the video is nicely presented without showing off. well thank you
Thank you very much for your comment. I always try to give some knowledge in my videos. I don't want to waste your time.
For future reference (2 Cups method)
30 g Coffee - medium grind size (~750 micron - 25 clicks Comandante)
500 g Water @ 93 C
45/50 interval between pours (Increase time between pours with denser beans, decrease time with lower dense beans).
Pour 1 (Circle pour) - 0:00: +110g
Pour 2 (Circle pour) - 0:45: +120 g (Total: 230g)
Pour 3 (Circle pour) - 1:30: +130 g (Total: 360g)
Pour 4 (Circle pour) - 2:15: +140 g (Total: 500g)
Thanks for this!
Matteo you are a coffee genius, OMG this OREA v3 method is a pleasure to use it unlocks all the flavours I love in my coffee.
Glad to hear that Jawad!
Just got a V3, and this is the perfect beginner video! Thank you!
Matteo → the only reason I bought my Orea.
Thanks for another recipe/ video!
I'm happy to hear that. I believe in this brewer. Thanks for supporting!
Great recipe and video Matteo!!! I'm going to try this one out soon.
Awesome, thanks for this recipe, Matteo! Personally I havn´t used my Orea V3 185 a lot in the past months, I don´t even know why. This video is a good reason to switch it up and use the 185!
Hi Gabriel, thanks for the comment. There are so many brewers in the market that is perfectly normal to don't use all of them. This method will probably work with other brewers, you just need to adjust some variables.
Great video. Thanks Mateo. So good to have a 2 cup recipe. And the jug method of wetting the Wave paper is awesome - makes it super even and consistent.
thanks so much. That wetting method is how I should do when I use to work in cafes. Fast and consistent.
Just used this recipe with my new v3 - delicious results. Thank you!
Glad to hear it! Thanks for sharing your feedback.
Thanks for explaining all the variables and when/why to change them, great to have a recipe that actually teaches you how to dial in a coffee. First cup is excellent, can't wait to tweak it and see if I can do better
Thanks so much for your comment and I'm happy it could help. That's the spirit, always aim for better. But don't forget to enjoy
The recipe I was looking for thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks so much for the comment and for waiting :)
Brilliant !
Amazing! I love my Orea V3 and I was hoping you would make one for the large size 😊 cheers mate.
Thanks Samuel! Hope this method will help you to brew a good coffee.
the ottavio method sounds nice
Nice video matteo, not sure how i've ended up here as it's unlisted!
Thanks! yeah so weird, this video should be published in a couple of hours 🤔
Fantastic video explaining very very well the technique and the adjustments to it. Love your content!
What are your thoughts on wet wdt of the grounds during bloom phase?
Thanks so much for your comment and thanks for the nice words. About wwdt I'm always worried to pierce the paper filter, so I don't use it. I think is definitely better than using a teaspoon.
Bello che ci sia un italiano che fa video fuori da espresso e moka!
Caffé filtro é le mia piú grande passione. Hai trovato bene XD. Grazie per il commento
Matteo - thank you so much for releasing this video. I've already used it a few times, and it's been so helpful. I also love how you provided some helpful tips to consider when changing variables of the brew.
Two questions for you:
1) Are there any changes to the recipe that your start with when dealing with different roast levels? You mentioned how you might approach coffees with different densities and processing methods, but do you have a starting place for light vs. med vs. dark roasts?
2) Do you think you could scale this down to 15g coffee to 250g of water by subtracting 25g from each pour?
Thanks again - so grateful for content like this to help with my home brewing!
Thanks to you Michael for you comment.
Temperature of water is what I change mainly, for a dark roast I definitely start with 90 or 88. with light roast 96. With medium I set in the middle. Dark roast is typically less dense than light roast.
you can scale it down, but if you reduce 25g you end up with 200 g of water. you can try with 15g each pour.
Hi Matteo!
Really enjoyed this video and starting to get better results. Could you maybe do a video for pouring techniques on its own? I feel like often I get worse brews just because my pouring isn‘t the best.
Greetings!
Nice to hear that you are getting better results. Thanks so much for the suggest on a pouring technique content. I'll add on my long list of ideas, I wish I had more time XD. Thanks again!
really like this method. I have the TimeMore B75 as my only Kalita style flat bottom brewer and adding additional 10 grams per pour will reach the residue in the ribs nicely at every additional pour. Nice thinking!! Looking forward to test it on my B75.
It will probably work with the B75 as well. Please let me know! Thanks
@@matteofromtheswamps Tested 4 times now - works a charm on the B75. I did both 250ml and 300 ml brews. It was a little bit faster - but could be grind size and coffee. Anyway great taste and so fare with this coffee very consistent. I cannot measure extraction but taste did not lack anything.
Great video :)
Thanks Morten!
Thank you, will try tomorrow morning!
Would roughly the same approach work with a V60?
I think with the V60 should work too, maybe change a couple of variables to make sure the flow is good
Hi Matteo, thanks for all your awesome work.
I have a medium roast and use your exact numbers for the 2 cup 500 ml. The water seems to be fully drained in around 15-20 seconds. Is this optimal? Do you aim for the water to finish draining right when you begin a new pour? I grind 25 clicks on commandante.
Oh and I also brew on the kalita 185 since my orea hasn’t arrived yet - I don’t know if that changes things
Hi.
The water draining it really depends also on the kind of coffee you brewing. With same grind size, natural processed coffee drains faster than washed processed. If very fermented, drains even faster. I don't really look at that, I based that on taste, if it taste good fair enough, if too weak and under extracted I grind finer to increase contact time and surface. Basically there is no optimal draining anymore.
Thank you for explaining your steps and the variables really well!
What's the name of the coffee glass you were using at minute 6:33?
Thanks for the comment!
The glass is the Orea Sense glass, same brand, even the server. You can find it on the link below and you can also get 10% off with my code.
@@matteofromtheswamps Thanks a lot!
I just bought the Orea, but will be sending it back due to the BPA problem. But general a really nice brewer, maybe I will get the glass!
@@Dash199t I'll be testing the glass one in the next days, so get ready for a future video about it and of course once released you can still get the 10% discount with my code.
@@matteofromtheswamps Ah nice. I am for the lookout for the release, the brew I did with the orea was really great, so I most likely will use your code :)
But most likely the glass version will be way more expensive...
Hi Matteo, would you grind coarser than 25 click for a 30g 480ml or 40g 640ml brew? I like to be in the 1,35/1,45% tds range and i fell that the deeper the bed of coffe the higher the extraction with the same parameters but im not completely sure. By the way, i dont know if you agree but i have been swinging these weeks between v60/orea and i found that i need to grind finner in the orea resulting in different flavour profiles or balance between them at the same level of extraction than the v60 but maybe its me and it doesnt makes sense at all
everything you saying make sense. Yes, higher quantity of coffee in the brewer, higher is the resistance of the bed. This increase the contact time between coffee and water, so higher extraction. Also, yes, finer with Orea because has a faster flow, reducing contact time so lower extraction.
@@matteofromtheswampsthanks for the response, i’ve learned lot from your channel
Hi, I tried this with Kinu M47 Simplicity set at 4.5.0 on a fermented honey processed, light-medium roast, and got no acidity and some bitterness. Decreasing temperature nor pour interval didn't help. The flow rate is OK so I didn't want to grind even coarser. Do you think I should grind coarser?
Hi. Fermented coffees are a bit tricky because they are very soluble. You can grind coarser, no worries about the flow, they are fast flowing anyway. Otherwise you should change the whole pouring pattern and combine pours. That will decrease extraction
@@matteofromtheswamps thank you very much, I will grind even coarser and experiment!
❤ can you please explain water temp on The viratls. So Natural And Anaerobic beans are at a higher temperature temperature 96c 97c ??? And washed are lower at 90c ?? I'm just trying to understand. Thanks ❤
Hey Mindy! it's actually the opposite. Natural Anaerobic low temperature and washed/more dense higher temperature. Hope I've been more clear now. Thanks
Will these recipe work with flat filters with the negotiator?
Yes it works, but you should charge some variables, like grind slightly coarser.
Are you not blooming? Also I see your water temperature is hotter than when you use the flat thin paper Filters. Is that because of the thickness of the kalita paper or something else? And will this work with making 28G ?
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Yes the first pour is blooming. Hotter water because in this method I play with less pours, less pours less extraction, so I compensate a bit with higher water temperature. 28g coffee? I share the method for brewing 30 g keeping the same dynamic.
Have you received the 3 new brewers? Im going to buy all of them when they launch 😅
Yes, I got them! Get ready for some new contents XD
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Thanks, i already have thr original orea. Will wait until the three new brewers :)