Pentium 4 has always fascinated me in a way, it was an important part of my computer childhood and I actually love the way they work and get hot. Currently running two Pentium 4 IBM xSeries 305 servers in my bedroom and I don't even need to turn on the heater! Sleep, however, is difficult.
1024x768 was typical for 2002? Then tell me why my Dell Inspiron 8100 (1999, Pentium III, 512MB RAM, Windows 2000, 20GB HDD, nVidia GeForce 2go) has a 1280x1024 display panel?
I have a Winbook laptop from around the same timeframe. The case is remarkably similar, down to vents, speaker grilles, etc. Same BIOS--beeps once really loud when POST is complete. The H1-H5 buttons are user-selectable "hotkeys" to launch applications, controlled by a software program. The Winbook I have even lets those work under Windows 7 32-bit with the software, but it's buggy at best. It was buggy under XP as well. Mine is also fully-loaded as far a FireWire, S-Video, etc, 4 USB ports in exactly the same place and orientation. Wireless was indeed optional, the slot is there with the antenna, the key-combo for enable/disable is there, along with an indicator light. I was lucky enough to get a wireless card to fit, and it works fine, keystroke turns it (and the light) on and off. There are at least 2 fans in the system, maybe 3. I had a bad bearing in the small one in the back, it's a job and a half to take this apart to get to it. I was able to oil that fan up and it's fine now. Didn't they tell you these models are only for use in Arctic climates? With the winter we're having, this thing looks like it'll run for a long time to come!
Just came across the fact, the name is close in its name to the Italian words: iettatura - which could be translated to chapter of accidents, run of bad luck, losing streak, disaster, mishap, hoodoo, wreck. gettare - which could be translated to discard, bin, chuck away, scrap, trash Not the best association to push sales, I think... As I noticed they are now selling Ebook Readers under this name...
@@Sakura-ke3oz I don't think this is a Pentium 4 Mobile but just a regular "desktop" Pentium 4. I have an Acer Aspire 1603LC with a Pentium 4 Mobile 2.66GHz and the power brick is big but not *that* big and is passively cooled, and the laptop itself is thick but not *that* thick, with just one cooling fan.
My friend you have now a new suscriber,your videos are amazing and I like how you treat the pc's. I hope you have any future projects ahead,greetings from Mexico !.
Somewhere around here I have an HP with a P4 in it. Within about 5 minutes that fan is SCREAMING; and in under 10 minutes it gets so hot that it shuts down.
I'm used to that kind of fan noise from a HP Pavillion G6 2399sa. I've cleaned it with compressed air, took it apart and cleaned it that way but nope, I could still take it on a camping trip and use it for cooking my food, it actually overheated once and thermal shutdown on me, had to get a cooling stand for it to not die on me like that...shame really, pretty nice performance laptop but the cooling on it is just horrific, lots of people complain about it.
When did you get that HP? I have one labeled g6 from Dec 2012 and I get fan sound exactly like that most of the time, and yes I have tried cleaning it out but yeah I still get it.
The hardware scroll bar is so much better than the dedicated "scroll" area on the side of the touchpad that some systems use. Scrolling operations are iffy at best with the touchpad. I have a Fujitsu Lifebook that has a "scroll" rocker switch just below the touchpad, it resembles the fingerprint reader found on some laptops.
A name can be trademarked in two different market segments as long as there wouldn't be any confusion between the two brands, or one was trying to obviously mimic the other.
Meant in the most polite way possible. What is it with you and your clicky buttons? Very clicky buttons like those used for the trackpad, to me have and always will be a sign of cheapness. I'm not referring to the switches in mechanical keyboards, those are a completely different kettle of fish.
I have a Fujitsu E7010 laptop with a 1.7GHz P4 processor and i have the same non-stop working fan issue. Only after I applied some Arctic Cooling MX-4 thermal paste i actually managed to get the fan to slow down a little bit and slightly improve the laptop's cooling.
I think it's because the Jetta (car) is a product and Jetta (laptop company) is a company. Also, they're completely separate (laptops and cars, I mean).
Surprisingly, not all Pentium 4 laptops are terrible. I have an HP Compaq nx9110 (essentially a rebranded Compaq R3000), and it has a 3 Ghz Pentium 4 it handles quite well. Of course, it is also a huge machine with a beefy cooling system to keep the temperatures down. I couldn't see a P4 fairing well in anything smaller.
I don't see how there's an issue with the name. Sure Jetta is a brand name of VW cars but last I checked Volkswagen doesn't produce computers and trademarks are designed to protect manufacturers who trade in a particular good.
A friend of mine had a Jetbook from around 1998, the thing kept on working for years. It later became a home made digital picture frame. Being NJ based, some companies around here bought them for corporate use. Sad that laptop has better connectivity then the average modern notebook. I remember these P4 laptops, they used to burn out on a regular basis. I remember some really crappy P4 laptops that had no battery and a GIANT AC adapter brick that had its own fan.
I still have the P4 laptop from 2004 that was brought for me and my bro. The extra power of the P4 made it worth the jet engine sound, we could play Half-Life 2 on ours, good luck running Half-Life 2 on a P3. The real limitation was the 40GB HDD, did not take long to fill it up with games.
Sidney Rutledge We had it running on our P3 when we first played. I don't remember it having issues. But Half-Life 2, great game gave me issues on a number of machines for years. PC games can be temperamental at times.
I’m sure someone must’ve been able to make it work on a Pentium 3 considering the source code leaked and the OG Xbox runs it with a Pentium 3-based Celeron
The CCFL inverters for LCD displays reside within the bezel of the LCD panel itself. The heat of the CPU has no influence on the inverter. Most likely the bulb burnt out from having the screen set at max brightness for a long time, or it cracked from being dropped or mishandled.
I once had a MacBook before and the hot air comes out of the slot in where the display connects to the laptop, with the intake in the keyboard! The inverter is located in the hinge cover and it got excessively heated by the hot air, so when you dim the display, enough, it will cause the display to flicker. I don't have the laptop anymore, it finally died on me but I parted out the system to get an HP laptop running, but that one had problems with the memory socket or controller where it will work sometimes but with the memory cover on, it never boots up! So I parted it again, and used the HDD in my Xbox instead. Luckily the newer laptops from Apple use LED backlighting and a cool running CPU. So I don't get concerned about inverter failures in the other laptops in my house, for example my father's MBP retina, and my brother's MBA 2010.
I kind of made the mistake of buying a 10 year old Packard Bell P4 desktop PC to run Kodi and a few other things under Linux and yes, it has a fan that runs constantly and a large plastic trumpet going directly from the gargantuan heatsink to a vent in the case. On the plus side, it did coe with an nVidia graphics card that has an HDMI output that works and a TV capture card and 2 DVD burners (not sure if I could guess what the last owner used it for, it had no operating system installed, hence Linux.
Pentium 4 systems are hot anyway. I had one cook a Western Digital Caviar 1200 today! Plus, even my Centrino-based Sony VAIO PCG-V505EX gets pretty hot. I can't imagine how hot the Pentium 4 versions would be!
It is kind of normal for laptop fans to run at full throttle when in the BIOS or when booting. Probably because CPU throttling isn't active at that point.
The modern Jetta makes a pretty well spec'd out 15.6" gaming laptop with an Nvidia 870M graphics card with 3GB of VRAM. Also Firewire, HDMI, TV tuner, backlit keyboard, the list goes on. It doesn't come with an OS, so if I want Windows 7, I'll spend $35 and get a COA off of ebay, or I could just put Fedora on it. They don't sell from their website, but I did put in an inquiry to find a dealer near me in California. I'll let you know if it's reasonable. They also have a parts section on their site and, this is crazy in this day and age, but they have most of the parts for the 7855 in stock (unfortunately, no RAM cover, no HDD adapter, and no CDROM faceplate). Since they don't sell in the volume of a Dell or H-P, I guess it makes a little sense, as they probably have the space for new old stock. The prices are out of sight, though. The LCD inverter lists for $79.00 US. Interesting video as usual, thanks.
I used to have some of those adapter pieces that went on the older 2.5" hard drives that the Dell/HP etc.. used if the Jetta has that same plugin on the board, I have a older Dell & HP laptop around here that both have P4's in them I believe, I know the Optiplex GX620 tower I use with a Hyper Threaded P4 can get pretty noisy but it's nothing compared to when my big PowerMac G5 tower gets cranked up :) an you answered my question about why they never made a G5 laptop
Its in good nick. It deserves respect and good care, even if it is a Pentium 4 laptop. All laptops are precious. It is a piece of shit but is getting harder to find. Keep it maybe, because no-one else will. It is full of dust and hair. Open it and clean out the CPU fan /output. A Willamette P4 is not as bad as the later Northwood ones. Yours is a Northwood one so that is just bad luck.
Often sitting in BIOS means no power management is running, so the CPU may well be running full power. In the past I've often sat a laptop in the BIOS to run out the battery quickly. Anyway, I agree - Pentium 4 CPUs in desktops are hard enough to cool - I've never seen a decent P4 laptop in my life. The heat usually means the batteries are fried too. The SiS chipset is pretty poor as well... You could try opening up the screen and find an equivalent inverter on ebay. Oh and you can probably boot off CD.
I own a fujitsu siemens lifebook e series equipped with an intel core 2 duo (first gen). even running windows xp, the computer gets very hot and the fan spins all the time.
Since it uses a desktop chip, is there any possibility that this was just a really high performance machine when it first debuted? A Mac IIfx was once considered quite the machine.
Interesting computer. Aside from the obvious design implications of using a Pentium 4 processor, it seems like it would have been a half decent machine. I agree that the Pentium 4 as a whole was ill-adapted for mobile use - my Travelmate gets scorching hot on the bottom with its 2 GHz Celeron.
They probably knew but they most likely pushed it into laptops just to try hard & sell more Pentium 4's. Only after they realized they couldn't get a decent performing Pentium 4 into a laptop, that they had a engineering team from Isreal take the latest Pentium 3 chip at the time & engineer it into the Pentium M for mid-range to high-end laptops, which became the chip that the later Intel Core 2 series & modern Intel i-Core series that would replace the Netburst series(Pentium 4's, D's, & Netburst based Celerons & Xeons) would be based off of. Netburst itself was a complete failure because instead of being engineered for performance it was engineered to reach high clock speeds so Intel could brag about & market high clock speeds over other competitors. Originally I think the whole idea for the Pentium 4 slightly came from the marketing team at Intel in 1999, which between the years of 1996 to 2002, both AMD & Intel where having a massive clock speed war, where clock speeds for both companies processors where nearly increasing 50% to 200% every CPU generation from 1996 up until about 2002. AMD beat Intel to the 1Ghz mark in 1999, & none long after that around that time Intel was having a hard time pushing there P6-based Pentium 3 passed 1.3Ghz. So Intel decided they wanted to design a chip that could clock much higher than AMD's offerings & would be able to break the clock speed limits of the Pentium 3 right off the bat & they where willing to cut corners to this, so they designed the Netburst architecture too do just that, reach higher clock speeds, & they cut ALOT of corners to do this which lead to such performance & heat issues. The goal of Netburst originally was to produce a Netburst chip in the future that would be clocked up to 10Ghz at stock but obliviously they reached a thermal wall around 2003 to 2004 that prevented them from pushing any farther, hence the fastest clocked Netburst chip you will find will probably be clocked at 3.7Ghz to 3.8Ghz. During the Netburst/Althon era(2001 to 2006), Intel basically tried there hardest to shove Netburst based CPU's down our throats & even got caught & fined millions of dollars by the government for Anti-trust law violations like bribing major OEM computer makers to only use P4 based Celerons, Pentium 4's, & Pentium D's in there systems instead of AMD's chips, which hurt AMD badly in the long wrong. Intel tried to kill off the Pentium 3 as much as they could, & even after they released the Pentium 3 based Pentium M, they still tried to bury the chip & pushed Netburst as much as they could, even on many laptops. Many early Pentium M chips could fit into Socket 487 Desktop Motherboards, the same motherboards that took Northwood Pentium 4's, but Intel purposely made most Socket 487 chipsets to where non of them could take a Pentium M. Not only where they producing laptops with Pentium 4's, but like I said they where isolating the Pentium M CPU to only laptops so they couldn't be used in desktops. That's how hard they where pushing Netburst. Up until about 2004 to 2005, Intel tried there hardest to push Netburst down peoples throats. Once AMD released there Althon 64 chips, Intel tried competing by releasing the Prescott Pentium 4's, but they where slower & worse than the Northwood chips. So after the failure to compete with AMD's K8 Architecture, Intel decided they would make a desktop & server version of the Pentium 3 based Pentium M to replace Netburst, & starting around 2004-2005, Intel took the Pentium M core & started working on what would evidently become the "Conroe" core or the Intel Core 2 series CPU's that would start replacing the Netburst series CPU's in 2006.
well so would i that's not the point. In the context of the time it came out i would have stuck with a P3 laptop/ Pentium M. The p4 was a joke, there is a reason they dropped that cpu designed and based the Core architecture off the pentium 3 :).
My Toshiba Portege 610ct (1995) has the exact same cooling fan for the cpu. I think it's pointless to have a cpu cooler like that in a pentium 4 laptop :/
I requested a quote from Jetta yesterday and was promised a dealer response in one business day. I received an email from a consulting firm called Source Code Corporation. They sent me a spec sheet for the Jetbook 8524PXV2. This is a little different from the specs I was looking for, as the model they offer has an Intel Core i5-4210M. Nvidia GeForce GTX 870M with 3GB of VRAM, 8GB OF DDR3 1600, and a Crucial 500GB SSD. It has USB 2.0, 3.0, and HDMI but no Firewire as promised at jettaus.com. It also has a fingerprint scanner FWIW. The price; $1,599.00. As a point of comparison, I checked Newegg. An i7 gaming laptop from MSI (model GT60 Dominator) can be had with similar specs for $1,474.99. It has a better graphics card (GeForce 970M) but only has a 1TB HDD. Although, for the difference, one could add an SSD. An i5 version of this, with lesser graphics, is around 700-800 dollars. Also, the dealer was adding Windows 7 Pro 64-bit with recovery partition. So much for choosing your own OS. If this was reasonable, I might spring just to see what the quality is, but not for that price. I suspect Jetta is a front for a factory that builds laptops for larger companies, like Lenovo, H-P, or even MSI. The R&D filters down to the factory, and the factory builds knock offs based on it. Oh well…
A P4 laptop.. that's like a Daimler-Benz converted into a motorbike :D The backlight inverter board is nowhere near the CPU; it's in the display bezel. Also if it really does use a non-mobile P4 then it could theoretically consume upwards of 115 watts. Imagine what one could accomplish with that amount of power, aside from checking AOL messenger.
the thermal may be bad or atleast was the case for the p4 vaio we have to the point it will shut off if you tried playing youtube on it.Changing the paste quiet it down that will hold its own against a prescott processor swap (replaced with the stock northwood one)and 720p downloaded youtube videos it screams though and the life with the bad cooling sorta taken its toll on her that she needsto warm up for a while before she boots up unless used frequently .
my late 2013 mac book pro's fan ramps up like that when watching videos, does get quite annoying. but i guess all laptops do thats just their downside. interesting vid as always
My late 2011 keeps quiet, even watching 4k. Have a look at your temps, install iStatPro for the Dashboard (the thing on the left, that nobody ever uses). My macbook really ramps its fans only, if reaches 90°C CPU temp. It may be also worth starting ActivityMonitor and check, if there are processes producing a lot of CPU load.
Whoa, I was once given a laptop that looks pretty similar to this, but with another brand name. It was the first computer I really started browsing the internet on by myself, but it died after I (foolishly) experimented with overclocking the GPU. Before it died, it ran hot and noisy anyway so I'm pretty sure it would have died pretty soon even if I hadn't overclocked it. I also remember it having an issue with the CPU still being active in standby mode, so one morning I woke it up after it had been in standby all night and it shut off when I woke it up because it detected it had overheated. Kind of hilarious.
SiS Chipset and a P4 in a Laptop --> this is not something you want to use. Anyway, the Keyboard alsolooks exactly like a Toshiba's. Especially the buttons right from the enter key
Hey @vwestlife: Do you have a tip or hint for my old 80486 laptop. It works fine but the floppy drive is broken. Is there a way to use the seriel or printer ports to download data from my main pc or an external drive /cd-rom to that laptop? It has DOS 5.0 and win 3.11 on it as an OS. It would be awesome if you know how. It also has drivers for a modem ( I think 14.4 kb) but ofcourse I dont have that modem anymore. But perhaps find a modem that will work on those drivers in DOS and use that to download some data into it? I would love a feedback of some 1. Laptop in question is the Toshiba t1950. Ps: Sorry for my lack in English.
I had one of those laptops but it did not have the that brand on it. I have 2 pentium 4 laptops and they don't seem to run any faster than my pentium 3 laptops.
2002, that would be a northwood P4 wouldnt it? imagine if a prescott P4 was in it, it'd probably be horrible. i have a haswell i7 based gaming laptop right now with a dedicated video card (GTX 780m)...the fans on this aren't even that loud. SiS graphics though, my old laptop had an SiS graphics chipset and it was terrible, it had problems running simple flash videos.
I have an old Toshiba Satellite that has a P4. Had to take the screen off due to it not working so its a glorified desktop now. There's a switch on the motherboard that isn't documented anywhere online and I have no idea what it does. I know one of the options says 3G (there is no sim card slot so it can't be anything to do with telephony).
Jetbook, so named 'cause of its acoustic profile, not its operating speed.
Well that's certainly different. Someone should mount the laptop in a Jetta, so they can have a Jetta in their Jetta!
That was so punny that it really hertz.
Yo, dawg, we heard you like Jettas, so we put a Jetta in yo Jetta so yo can Jetta while yo Jetta. *J E T T A C E P T I O N*
lmull3 kkk
Alright, settle down, Xzibit.
My dad has the same exact laptop. Same design, specs and all of that stuff. And guess what, the backlight is dead, too.
The laptop probably has integrated hair dryer. You just didn't see it.
Where is the FX5800?
Mouldy CPU its an intergrated heater..
useful in cold areas..
But you can definitely feel it.
Pentium 4 has always fascinated me in a way, it was an important part of my computer childhood and I actually love the way they work and get hot. Currently running two Pentium 4 IBM xSeries 305 servers in my bedroom and I don't even need to turn on the heater! Sleep, however, is difficult.
Laptop manufacturers need to start making mouse buttons separate from the trackpad again...
1024x768 was typical for 2002? Then tell me why my Dell Inspiron 8100 (1999, Pentium III, 512MB RAM, Windows 2000, 20GB HDD, nVidia GeForce 2go) has a 1280x1024 display panel?
+AIO inc. That's the difference between "typical" and "high end".
vwestlife
I thought the Dell Inspiron 8100 was typical?
+AIO inc. Nope, 8100 was high end
YES! I HATE THE ONE BUTTON CLICK
I have a Winbook laptop from around the same timeframe. The case is remarkably similar, down to vents, speaker grilles, etc. Same BIOS--beeps once really loud when POST is complete.
The H1-H5 buttons are user-selectable "hotkeys" to launch applications, controlled by a software program. The Winbook I have even lets those work under Windows 7 32-bit with the software, but it's buggy at best. It was buggy under XP as well.
Mine is also fully-loaded as far a FireWire, S-Video, etc, 4 USB ports in exactly the same place and orientation. Wireless was indeed optional, the slot is there with the antenna, the key-combo for enable/disable is there, along with an indicator light. I was lucky enough to get a wireless card to fit, and it works fine, keystroke turns it (and the light) on and off.
There are at least 2 fans in the system, maybe 3. I had a bad bearing in the small one in the back, it's a job and a half to take this apart to get to it. I was able to oil that fan up and it's fine now.
Didn't they tell you these models are only for use in Arctic climates? With the winter we're having, this thing looks like it'll run for a long time to come!
H1-H5? It's able to transport between the 5 dimensions of hell!
With 2.00 giga-hurts-your-ears speed!
Just came across the fact, the name is close in its name to the Italian words:
iettatura - which could be translated to chapter of accidents, run of bad luck, losing streak, disaster, mishap, hoodoo, wreck.
gettare - which could be translated to discard, bin, chuck away, scrap, trash
Not the best association to push sales, I think...
As I noticed they are now selling Ebook Readers under this name...
In my country we call "yeta" (pronounced mostly the same as Jetta) to people who bring misfortune or expect bad things instead of hoping for the best.
Maybe, and that is just me trying to make an educated guess...
Maybe Volkswagen only registered Jetta for use and commercial activities in cars...
Maybe it's because for the European market in 1992 VW changed the name to Vento and later Bora, up until 2005, so they just didn't care?
+kpanic23 There are still Jettas being produced.
They weren't kidding when they call it a "Jetbook"
You got to love early 2000s marketing nothing says fast like the Jetta jetbook
Not only would that P4 push out a lot of heat, it'd probably suck up a lot of power too!
@Systremor even if it didn't use much power, the fans would draw so much power.
@@Sakura-ke3oz I don't think this is a Pentium 4 Mobile but just a regular "desktop" Pentium 4. I have an Acer Aspire 1603LC with a Pentium 4 Mobile 2.66GHz and the power brick is big but not *that* big and is passively cooled, and the laptop itself is thick but not *that* thick, with just one cooling fan.
Well, a bit of a shelf queen, isn't it? An ornament you put on your coffee table as a conversation starter.
It's amazing, I have a Pentium 3 laptop and the fan only runs when it is needed, the fan is pretty quite as well.
I remember dell recalling the Inspiron 5150s because the 3.08GHz P4s would cause the motherboard to overheat and melt!
With 3.08 giga-hurts-your-ears power!
I bought an 1150 recently witha 2.6ghz P4 i think, and even just idling the air the fan is blowing a little warm. Hasn't burned up yet thankfully.
My Acer laptop trys to overheat it self trying to cool I think it has a death wish
Anthony Mondz same
Acer laptops like heat a lot
It is definitely a clevo based laptop. Btw they have a notebook which supports intel xeon e5-2697.
I actually saw a Wal-Mart ad just a few months ago that had different laptops, and one of them, who would have guessed, had a Pentium 4 processor....
I have a Pomi (a Finnish brand) Pentium 3 laptop that looks a lot like that and also has sis chipset and 5 function buttons also labeled h1-5
JussapitkaPelailee mitäää
Tekikö pomi läppäreitäki!?
Ei, vaan se on kiinalainen läppäri mihin pomi on laittanu logonsa.
What year was this? Pentium 4 was around for a long time on desktops. But it was replaced quickly be Pentium M on laptops.
And three years later he owns the jetta car.
So, how many different laptops are there? I'm amazed how many off brand, or re- branded ones you come up with.
Probably CCFL bulb gone... That's something you see if you put a flashlight towards the screen. Had a Centrino Thinkpad with that problem.
My friend you have now a new suscriber,your videos are amazing and I like how you treat the pc's.
I hope you have any future projects ahead,greetings from Mexico !.
Somewhere around here I have an HP with a P4 in it. Within about 5 minutes that fan is SCREAMING; and in under 10 minutes it gets so hot that it shuts down.
I'm used to that kind of fan noise from a HP Pavillion G6 2399sa. I've cleaned it with compressed air, took it apart and cleaned it that way but nope, I could still take it on a camping trip and use it for cooking my food, it actually overheated once and thermal shutdown on me, had to get a cooling stand for it to not die on me like that...shame really, pretty nice performance laptop but the cooling on it is just horrific, lots of people complain about it.
When did you get that HP? I have one labeled g6 from Dec 2012 and I get fan sound exactly like that most of the time, and yes I have tried cleaning it out but yeah I still get it.
The hardware scroll bar is so much better than the dedicated "scroll" area on the side of the touchpad that some systems use. Scrolling operations are iffy at best with the touchpad.
I have a Fujitsu Lifebook that has a "scroll" rocker switch just below the touchpad, it resembles the fingerprint reader found on some laptops.
the p4 will put out more heat than an actual vw jetta.
A name can be trademarked in two different market segments as long as there wouldn't be any confusion between the two brands, or one was trying to obviously mimic the other.
Meant in the most polite way possible. What is it with you and your clicky buttons? Very clicky buttons like those used for the trackpad, to me have and always will be a sign of cheapness. I'm not referring to the switches in mechanical keyboards, those are a completely different kettle of fish.
When I click a mouse button, I want it to actually _click_.
vwestlife I too like some positive feedback when pressing buttons.
This same laptop was branded as Advent 7004 in some countries.
I have a Fujitsu E7010 laptop with a 1.7GHz P4 processor and i have the same non-stop working fan issue. Only after I applied some Arctic Cooling MX-4 thermal paste i actually managed to get the fan to slow down a little bit and slightly improve the laptop's cooling.
I wonder if the modern Jetta Jetbook computers are made by Clevo. Clevo are an OEM supplier of notebook computers to small distributors like MetaBox.
I think it's because the Jetta (car) is a product and Jetta (laptop company) is a company. Also, they're completely separate (laptops and cars, I mean).
Surprisingly, not all Pentium 4 laptops are terrible. I have an HP Compaq nx9110 (essentially a rebranded Compaq R3000), and it has a 3 Ghz Pentium 4 it handles quite well. Of course, it is also a huge machine with a beefy cooling system to keep the temperatures down. I couldn't see a P4 fairing well in anything smaller.
I just tried going to jettaus and apparently they’re now known as source code I guess Volkswagen saw your video 😝😂
you have a Jetta now! it's very nice.
'proud' is likely an understatement. Pentium 4s are crap in laptops.
With, in this case, 2.00 giga-hurts-your-ears power.
I don't see how there's an issue with the name. Sure Jetta is a brand name of VW cars but last I checked Volkswagen doesn't produce computers and trademarks are designed to protect manufacturers who trade in a particular good.
A friend of mine had a Jetbook from around 1998, the thing kept on working for years. It later became a home made digital picture frame. Being NJ based, some companies around here bought them for corporate use.
Sad that laptop has better connectivity then the average modern notebook. I remember these P4 laptops, they used to burn out on a regular basis. I remember some really crappy P4 laptops that had no battery and a GIANT AC adapter brick that had its own fan.
I still have the P4 laptop from 2004 that was brought for me and my bro.
The extra power of the P4 made it worth the jet engine sound, we could play Half-Life 2 on ours, good luck running Half-Life 2 on a P3. The real limitation was the 40GB HDD, did not take long to fill it up with games.
Heh! I had trouble running Half-Life ONE on a P3 731.
Sidney Rutledge We had it running on our P3 when we first played. I don't remember it having issues. But Half-Life 2, great game gave me issues on a number of machines for years. PC games can be temperamental at times.
I’m sure someone must’ve been able to make it work on a Pentium 3 considering the source code leaked and the OG Xbox runs it with a Pentium 3-based Celeron
LAptop reminds me of the good old days . U might have a bad inverter u might get lucky as long as its not the CCFL.
The CCFL inverters for LCD displays reside within the bezel of the LCD panel itself. The heat of the CPU has no influence on the inverter. Most likely the bulb burnt out from having the screen set at max brightness for a long time, or it cracked from being dropped or mishandled.
I once had a MacBook before and the hot air comes out of the slot in where the display connects to the laptop, with the intake in the keyboard! The inverter is located in the hinge cover and it got excessively heated by the hot air, so when you dim the display, enough, it will cause the display to flicker. I don't have the laptop anymore, it finally died on me but I parted out the system to get an HP laptop running, but that one had problems with the memory socket or controller where it will work sometimes but with the memory cover on, it never boots up! So I parted it again, and used the HDD in my Xbox instead. Luckily the newer laptops from Apple use LED backlighting and a cool running CPU. So I don't get concerned about inverter failures in the other laptops in my house, for example my father's MBP retina, and my brother's MBA 2010.
you have the perfect voice for awkward jokes
I kind of made the mistake of buying a 10 year old Packard Bell P4 desktop PC to run Kodi and a few other things under Linux and yes, it has a fan that runs constantly and a large plastic trumpet going directly from the gargantuan heatsink to a vent in the case.
On the plus side, it did coe with an nVidia graphics card that has an HDMI output that works and a TV capture card and 2 DVD burners (not sure if I could guess what the last owner used it for, it had no operating system installed, hence Linux.
+Mike Hall They were quite inefficient and very weird, but at least the cases look good...
the fan is playing whistling dixie
Pentium 4 systems are hot anyway. I had one cook a Western Digital Caviar 1200 today!
Plus, even my Centrino-based Sony VAIO PCG-V505EX gets pretty hot. I can't imagine how hot the Pentium 4 versions would be!
Trademarks like Jetta should only matter if they're in the same trade. Cars vs computers are fine AFAIK.
It is kind of normal for laptop fans to run at full throttle when in the BIOS or when booting. Probably because CPU throttling isn't active at that point.
didnt know that jetta laptop existed, its still just a generic chinese noname laptop, the best way to make a laptop i guess
You can use those hard drive caddys available on ebay, there are PATA versions that should work on this laptop.
The modern Jetta makes a pretty well spec'd out 15.6" gaming laptop with an Nvidia 870M graphics card with 3GB of VRAM. Also Firewire, HDMI, TV tuner, backlit keyboard, the list goes on. It doesn't come with an OS, so if I want Windows 7, I'll spend $35 and get a COA off of ebay, or I could just put Fedora on it. They don't sell from their website, but I did put in an inquiry to find a dealer near me in California. I'll let you know if it's reasonable.
They also have a parts section on their site and, this is crazy in this day and age, but they have most of the parts for the 7855 in stock (unfortunately, no RAM cover, no HDD adapter, and no CDROM faceplate). Since they don't sell in the volume of a Dell or H-P, I guess it makes a little sense, as they probably have the space for new old stock. The prices are out of sight, though. The LCD inverter lists for $79.00 US. Interesting video as usual, thanks.
***** Also pretty rare...
I used to have some of those adapter pieces that went on the older 2.5" hard drives that the Dell/HP etc.. used if the Jetta has that same plugin on the board, I have a older Dell & HP laptop around here that both have P4's in them I believe, I know the Optiplex GX620 tower I use with a Hyper Threaded P4 can get pretty noisy but it's nothing compared to when my big PowerMac G5 tower gets cranked up :) an you answered my question about why they never made a G5 laptop
Imagine if it had a 3.06GHz Pentium 4...
A dell Inspiron that I found at a used computer shop has one, cpu fan is running all the time at a very high rpm
I doubt the P4 actually cooked the LCD inverter board; a laptop as cheaply put together as that probably just had a very low-rent inverter.
Its in good nick. It deserves respect and good care, even if it is a Pentium 4 laptop. All laptops are precious. It is a piece of shit but is getting harder to find. Keep it maybe, because no-one else will.
It is full of dust and hair. Open it and clean out the CPU fan /output. A Willamette P4 is not as bad as the later Northwood ones. Yours is a Northwood one so that is just bad luck.
Often sitting in BIOS means no power management is running, so the CPU may well be running full power. In the past I've often sat a laptop in the BIOS to run out the battery quickly. Anyway, I agree - Pentium 4 CPUs in desktops are hard enough to cool - I've never seen a decent P4 laptop in my life. The heat usually means the batteries are fried too. The SiS chipset is pretty poor as well...
You could try opening up the screen and find an equivalent inverter on ebay.
Oh and you can probably boot off CD.
I can already tell that I will HATE those mouse buttons on it.
I have seen that kind of hard drive adapter on some relatively recent models of HP Pavilion laptops.
Volkswagen probably didn’t sue them for the name because it’s called a Jetta’
It's a 2.00 GHz Pentium 4 processor...2.00 giga-hurts-your-ears!
I own a fujitsu siemens lifebook e series equipped with an intel core 2 duo (first gen). even running windows xp, the computer gets very hot and the fan spins all the time.
GHz?
Since it uses a desktop chip, is there any possibility that this was just a really high performance machine when it first debuted? A Mac IIfx was once considered quite the machine.
Interesting computer. Aside from the obvious design implications of using a Pentium 4 processor, it seems like it would have been a half decent machine. I agree that the Pentium 4 as a whole was ill-adapted for mobile use - my Travelmate gets scorching hot on the bottom with its 2 GHz Celeron.
Mike Hall Yep, an Acer TravelMate 233LC. The Celeron is based on the Northwood Pentium 4 core.
I have a HP Pavilion zd8000 with a LGA 775 Pentium 4 HT and the fan is loud and runs all the time!
The fan on that laptop is loud as the fan of my very hot HD 4870x2 graphics card :)
thats 99% certainly made by Mitac..... the giveaway is the MSL on one of the bottom labels...
i have 2 Mitacs and one is very similar to this...
and the same Insyde bios...
but both mine have AMD processors....
i have a Medion with a P4 processor and the fan in that goes full whack all the while, needs a horrendous SIX AMP psu/charger 😲
Lol I think those buttons are F11 to F15, at least from what I saw in the video
I don't understand why they would make a laptop with a P4. They obviously didn't know that a P4 would make that much heat.
They probably knew but they most likely pushed it into laptops just to try hard & sell more Pentium 4's.
Only after they realized they couldn't get a decent performing Pentium 4 into a laptop, that they had a engineering team from Isreal take the latest Pentium 3 chip at the time & engineer it into the Pentium M for mid-range to high-end laptops, which became the chip that the later Intel Core 2 series & modern Intel i-Core series that would replace the Netburst series(Pentium 4's, D's, & Netburst based Celerons & Xeons) would be based off of.
Netburst itself was a complete failure because instead of being engineered for performance it was engineered to reach high clock speeds so Intel could brag about & market high clock speeds over other competitors. Originally I think the whole idea for the Pentium 4 slightly came from the marketing team at Intel in 1999, which between the years of 1996 to 2002, both AMD & Intel where having a massive clock speed war, where clock speeds for both companies processors where nearly increasing 50% to 200% every CPU generation from 1996 up until about 2002. AMD beat Intel to the 1Ghz mark in 1999, & none long after that around that time Intel was having a hard time pushing there P6-based Pentium 3 passed 1.3Ghz. So Intel decided they wanted to design a chip that could clock much higher than AMD's offerings & would be able to break the clock speed limits of the Pentium 3 right off the bat & they where willing to cut corners to this, so they designed the Netburst architecture too do just that, reach higher clock speeds, & they cut ALOT of corners to do this which lead to such performance & heat issues. The goal of Netburst originally was to produce a Netburst chip in the future that would be clocked up to 10Ghz at stock but obliviously they reached a thermal wall around 2003 to 2004 that prevented them from pushing any farther, hence the fastest clocked Netburst chip you will find will probably be clocked at 3.7Ghz to 3.8Ghz.
During the Netburst/Althon era(2001 to 2006), Intel basically tried there hardest to shove Netburst based CPU's down our throats & even got caught & fined millions of dollars by the government for Anti-trust law violations like bribing major OEM computer makers to only use P4 based Celerons, Pentium 4's, & Pentium D's in there systems instead of AMD's chips, which hurt AMD badly in the long wrong. Intel tried to kill off the Pentium 3 as much as they could, & even after they released the Pentium 3 based Pentium M, they still tried to bury the chip & pushed Netburst as much as they could, even on many laptops. Many early Pentium M chips could fit into Socket 487 Desktop Motherboards, the same motherboards that took Northwood Pentium 4's, but Intel purposely made most Socket 487 chipsets to where non of them could take a Pentium M. Not only where they producing laptops with Pentium 4's, but like I said they where isolating the Pentium M CPU to only laptops so they couldn't be used in desktops. That's how hard they where pushing Netburst.
Up until about 2004 to 2005, Intel tried there hardest to push Netburst down peoples throats. Once AMD released there Althon 64 chips, Intel tried competing by releasing the Prescott Pentium 4's, but they where slower & worse than the Northwood chips. So after the failure to compete with AMD's K8 Architecture, Intel decided they would make a desktop & server version of the Pentium 3 based Pentium M to replace Netburst, & starting around 2004-2005, Intel took the Pentium M core & started working on what would evidently become the "Conroe" core or the Intel Core 2 series CPU's that would start replacing the Netburst series CPU's in 2006.
With, in this case, 2.00 giga-hurts-your-ears power!
Not a proprietary adapter. Its a quanta adapter. Quanta builds hp laptops.
I've had two Penium 4 HT laptops in my life, both of them where better as heaters then Laptops. Toshiba Satellites (A70 models I believe)
Puppy Linux would run great with these laptops and some thermal paste could solve the CPU heating issues of the P4
I had similar laptop while I was in college, but it was a Chinese no name brand.
The Jetta trademark Volkswagen had may have not applied to computers.
That's the same kind of connector that is needed to connect a parallel drive to my Compaq laptop (the first one I got in 2004).
I would honestly rather have a P3 laptop.
Honestly I would rather have a modern i5 laptop.
well so would i that's not the point. In the context of the time it came out i would have stuck with a P3 laptop/ Pentium M. The p4 was a joke, there is a reason they dropped that cpu designed and based the Core architecture off the pentium 3 :).
Now that I think of it, I believe relatives of mine had a Pulsar brand personal computer, 1 486 of sorts I think. Yes, Pulsar, as in Nissan Pulsar.
My Toshiba Portege 610ct (1995) has the exact same cooling fan for the cpu.
I think it's pointless to have a cpu cooler like that in a pentium 4 laptop :/
I remember my music teacher having a HiFi with exactly the same Jetta logo in the mid 90s. Also seemed like a generic Chinese product.
I requested a quote from Jetta yesterday and was promised a dealer response in one business day. I received an email from a consulting firm called Source Code Corporation. They sent me a spec sheet for the Jetbook 8524PXV2. This is a little different from the specs I was looking for, as the model they offer has an Intel Core i5-4210M. Nvidia GeForce GTX 870M with 3GB of VRAM, 8GB OF DDR3 1600, and a Crucial 500GB SSD. It has USB 2.0, 3.0, and HDMI but no Firewire as promised at jettaus.com. It also has a fingerprint scanner FWIW. The price; $1,599.00.
As a point of comparison, I checked Newegg. An i7 gaming laptop from MSI (model GT60 Dominator) can be had with similar specs for $1,474.99. It has a better graphics card (GeForce 970M) but only has a 1TB HDD. Although, for the difference, one could add an SSD. An i5 version of this, with lesser graphics, is around 700-800 dollars.
Also, the dealer was adding Windows 7 Pro 64-bit with recovery partition. So much for choosing your own OS. If this was reasonable, I might spring just to see what the quality is, but not for that price. I suspect Jetta is a front for a factory that builds laptops for larger companies, like Lenovo, H-P, or even MSI. The R&D filters down to the factory, and the factory builds knock offs based on it. Oh well…
My gtx 970 fan at 100% sounds like you are 2 cm from a jet engine at the airport :D
A P4 laptop.. that's like a Daimler-Benz converted into a motorbike :D
The backlight inverter board is nowhere near the CPU; it's in the display bezel. Also if it really does use a non-mobile P4 then it could theoretically consume upwards of 115 watts. Imagine
what one could accomplish with that amount of power, aside from checking AOL messenger.
It could be that the thermal paste dried up?
the thermal may be bad or atleast was the case for the p4 vaio we have to the point it will shut off if you tried playing youtube on it.Changing the paste quiet it down that will hold its own against a prescott processor swap (replaced with the stock northwood one)and 720p downloaded youtube videos it screams though and the life with the bad cooling sorta taken its toll on her that she needsto warm up for a while before she boots up unless used frequently .
my late 2013 mac book pro's fan ramps up like that when watching videos, does get quite annoying. but i guess all laptops do thats just their downside. interesting vid as always
My late 2011 keeps quiet, even watching 4k.
Have a look at your temps, install iStatPro for the Dashboard (the thing on the left, that nobody ever uses). My macbook really ramps its fans only, if reaches 90°C CPU temp.
It may be also worth starting ActivityMonitor and check, if there are processes producing a lot of CPU load.
Thanks buddy il have a look
They may have been a private supplier, that's why they're lesser known...Who knows, though.
Mmm there's nothing wrong with them using jetta...vw only owns the rights with cars....not computers
Whoa, I was once given a laptop that looks pretty similar to this, but with another brand name. It was the first computer I really started browsing the internet on by myself, but it died after I (foolishly) experimented with overclocking the GPU. Before it died, it ran hot and noisy anyway so I'm pretty sure it would have died pretty soon even if I hadn't overclocked it. I also remember it having an issue with the CPU still being active in standby mode, so one morning I woke it up after it had been in standby all night and it shut off when I woke it up because it detected it had overheated. Kind of hilarious.
I owned a Dell Inspiron 1150 with a Pentium 4 and it never had the fan on full blast unless I was doing serious multitasking...
SiS Chipset and a P4 in a Laptop --> this is not something you want to use.
Anyway, the Keyboard alsolooks exactly like a Toshiba's. Especially the buttons right from the enter key
Hey @vwestlife:
Do you have a tip or hint for my old 80486 laptop. It works fine but the floppy drive is broken.
Is there a way to use the seriel or printer ports to download data from my main pc or an external drive /cd-rom to that laptop?
It has DOS 5.0 and win 3.11 on it as an OS.
It would be awesome if you know how.
It also has drivers for a modem ( I think 14.4 kb) but ofcourse I dont have that modem anymore. But perhaps find a modem that will work on those drivers in DOS and use that to download some data into it?
I would love a feedback of some 1.
Laptop in question is the Toshiba t1950.
Ps: Sorry for my lack in English.
Yes, look here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39012
Thanks alot mate. (sorry for the late response)
I had one of those laptops but it did not have the that brand on it. I have 2 pentium 4 laptops and they don't seem to run any faster than my pentium 3 laptops.
I found a laptop branded mesh on eBay identical to that laptop
you probably need to clean that heatsink
Wait a sec, was that a full-blown Pentium 4 for desktop? or was that a mobile Pentium 4?
2002, that would be a northwood P4 wouldnt it? imagine if a prescott P4 was in it, it'd probably be horrible. i have a haswell i7 based gaming laptop right now with a dedicated video card (GTX 780m)...the fans on this aren't even that loud.
SiS graphics though, my old laptop had an SiS graphics chipset and it was terrible, it had problems running simple flash videos.
I'm going to go on a limb and say they're probably a Clevo rebrander much like Sager, AVA Direct and Prostar.
I have an old Toshiba Satellite that has a P4. Had to take the screen off due to it not working so its a glorified desktop now.
There's a switch on the motherboard that isn't documented anywhere online and I have no idea what it does. I know one of the options says 3G (there is no sim card slot so it can't be anything to do with telephony).
It could be third generation
A Pentium 4 laptop, for when your Prescott Pentium 4 desktop just isn't noisy enough!
Bbishoppcm have also shown of a generic chinenise laptop whit a Intel Pentium 4 processor.