I bought one of these exact machines when it was first introduced. It also had a matching monitor that weighed about 600 pounds. The monitor died at about 6 years of age. I gave the computer to my brother and he is STILL using it. What amazes me about this machine is how fast it boots and how fast apps load. For using Word and Excel, it's still a very fast machine - evan at 17 years old.
Labe Scheinberg also seemed to be a well established physician and has written several books on the topic. Very cool that you somehow ended up with his computer!
I didnt know him in person but I looked him up. He was a respected doctor in his field of MS disease. And it is quite an honor to have owned something that he owned. Rest in peace Dr. Scheinberg.
+Rom Hook That case was so great to work on. It later became the G4 too. Very heavy machines to carry about as they had so much over-engineering in them.
@@howaboutsomesoyfood tbh Steve was against upgradable machines in principle, he liked the idea of sealed appliances, but he let these machines live because they were For Pros who needed the most power possible whatever the price, and so most people wouldn’t mess with them. The iMac and iBook more closely matched Steve’s “vision” as it were.
Apple in 1999: here's a computer that is really easy to take apart. Apple in 2014: you want to take apart this computer? Fuck you, good luck not breaking it and if you take it apart, you're out one warranty.
@@sbrazenor2 the fanboys saying it’s totally reasonable for the low-end M2 to have half the disk bandwidth because of what ultimately were design _decisions,_ not inherent outcomes, is amazing to me.
To be fair it wasn't just to make us happier but was lower cost to manufacture. In ~1990 when Jobs created fully automated NeXT factory. He was glad to announce only one screw was needed to screw that NeXT Cube. So it could be quickly assembled and therefore cheap. But it comes with cost - more material is needed. And more parts. If you change design it require more elements. Even smalles like handles, springs etc. Cook was responsible for that process. Ever since Cook cooked Apple, they take care more about lowering costs, than quality or repairability. Repairability allows those who customize earn money - your market share grows. Money behind your brand. But not income. Same is for repairability. Allows manufacturers of replacement parts to make money. Making solid glued junk makes You earn more money at expense of others. And obviously - customer. They could make it rapairable and make old junk keep value. Allowing their customers to purchase more and gain market share. What they did instead is increased profit margin. Substancially. And stock owners are happy because they are paid.
Aw, that's quite a sad story behind it really, but they must have put it into storage as soon as he died. it's amazing you got it, I looked him up too, he was quite a legendary doctor, pioneered a lot of treatments for multiple scoliosis! But it is interesting going through old files, I got an old video phone off eBay last year and it's got an archive of old emails, unfortunately most of them are those chain emails of people emailing unfunny jokes to each other.
+Larry Bundy Jr It looks like Labe (or at least this machine) wrote his wife's obituary too - at 7:01 there are documents from the date she died mentioning her name and an obituary.
Gordon Heeman I had this very model and my career as an editor in Hollywood started with this. To this day, I miss that swing down door and easy upgradeability
Couple days ago, I was with my friend, and we were driving when I in the back of my eye, I saw an old Mac sitting on top of a desk on the curb for trash pickup. As soon as I realized what it was, I just yelled "OH MY GOD!" and my friend thought he ran over someone for a second until I yelled that there was a mac on the side of the road, and I just practically begged for him to turn around so I can rescue it. I got the mac, it's a power mac g4 400 mhz version made in February 2000, and it works like a charm! Interesting thing is that the original owner seems to have replaced the hard drive because the drive wasn't even mounted to the case and was missing a case mount. Still, it was the most amazing find I ever got!
16 year old computer works just perfectly, meanwhile your retina macbook kicks the bucket after the end of the warranty and apple gladly give you a new upgraded model barely faster than the last years one for the low price of 1299. Now you can browse facebook faster than ever.
Things were tough in the old days. The PC I'd bought in 2002 was supplied with 256 megabytes of DDR RAM, which sounded like a lot at the time. But I was not told that Windows XP actually required 500 megabytes of RAM just as cashe memory. Thus, in order to run Windows XP efficiently, you actually required somewhat more RAM than that. No wonder it seemed to run so lumpy. It kept upping the vitual memory it required from drive C. Yet, back in 2002, they were also selling laptops installed with XP that only had 128 megabytes of RAM.
+Stephen Clementson No way, minimum RAM requirement for XP was 64 MB (reccomended 128 MB) but almost nobody had 512 MB of RAM when XP was released to the public.
olli2591 As I recall, minimum requirements quoted for XP were stated to be absurdly inadequate at the time of its launch. In 2001, they were claiming that any PC made since 1996 could handle XP. But, as one commentator stated, his 1996 PC would have been inadequate, especially as it had only been supplied with a 1.5 gigabyte hard drive. PCs supplied with 64 megabyte RAM capacities were common, circa 1998. My 2002 machine was a recent upgrade at the time, as it was able to accommodate 1 gigabyte of RAM in the form of two 512 megabyte cards. I learned later that the previous mother board associated with that model could only accommodate 512 megabytes.
***** Not for me. Moreover, 256 megabytes of RAM could not support DVD burning. So, I had to add an extra 512 megs of ram. The problems were all cured. 768 megs was enough for that system, and I noticed no further improvements with 1 gigabyte of RAM installed.
+The Professor Not to worry. It was a 2002 Packard Bell, running a 2 gigahertz Pentium 4. I built up a replacement (for the period 2010 to 2011, running Windows 7), that used a 2.7 gigahertz dual core processor, and 4 gigs of RAM. Sold that on (admittedly at a loss just to get rid of it, because my wife didn't want it), and replaced it with another home build, based on a 3.3 gigahertz i5 quad processor.
This is amazing! SO this guy bought the computer in 1999, used it for four years and then probably got sick so the computer probably got put back into the box. Where it sat there for twelve years until someone through it into the garbage. Amazing find!
I just watched it on Mac Mini 2015. It is hard to believe how far technology has come through i just past 16 years. I exactly remember that time as I was about to graduate from Engineering college. I remember vaguely when those colored Mac has came out those were quite a big deal and it was in the news all over.
its really sad, you can see a file called "obitory editor" at 150PM sunday Jan 9 2000, then at 614PM a new file called "Louise Goldman Scheinberg"... he wrote his wifes obituary... then it looks like he died two years later.. If you could track down his family they would probably be grateful to get the old files, especially those old photos.
Maybe the original owner - who passed away - can live on though the remains of his scientific work on this Mac. I hope I will! I keep my old Macs in excellent condition, every four or five years they get a new battery. Then a power on and I set the clock again. In forty of fifty years the people who live then will find a great collection of contemporary music and porn movies. I hope they think that I am the actor.
vanhetgoor I believe he will live on but probably in the books he wrote not his Mac lol. He was a doctor and it looks like he was a great doctor. Still it’s like this Mac is a small part of his life that is no longer here and for reason its fascinating to me.
It's just an old computer; it's nothing special. I have a number of them that I still have to get rid of; rather expensive BTOs that we purchased over the years,, that are in fact just obsolete. We should have never wasted so much money on pointless "technological" junk to begin with.
Even as someone who isn't really a friend of Apple products these days, I know why I liked the G3 back then. Really an amazing piece of hardware, both the Power MAC and the iMac. Not to think of this thing was truly capable of 1080p.
I remember working at AppleCare in Austin back when this computer was the brand new model and my manager brought a dolly over to my desk just as soon as we could get them before they started shipping and dropped off one of these and a matching B&W 17" Diamondtron Apple Studio Display monitor all new sealed in the packaging. To this day that was the best new user unboxing experience I've ever had. I loved using that computer every day. At home I had an iMac Rev B original with Office 98 Gold Edition, A wide format Epson Stylus Photo EX printer and an original Imation USB SuperDisk drive. That was the best part of my tech support career when I switched over to Mac in 1998.
Going through a somewhat nostalgia thing for my first professional Macs - used this exact model in my first graphics job after college, loved it. Mac OS 8 through 9 was zippy, fast, reliable and ran software like nothing. Sure it crashed here and there, but not often. Got the job done and I sharpened my Mac OS skills which still help me today. I remember that you can change jumpers on the motherboard to speed up the processor speed. Careful though, but I remember it did give the Power Mac G3 a boost! At home I had a beige G3 which was also a fantastic Mac. I ran all kinds of good OS enhancement stuff, like A-Dock, an app that added a Start Menu! Speed Startup or something which did allow for faster extension loading at start up, etc. etc. I often think about attaining an old G3 running Mac OS 8-9 running for nostalgic kicks and playing an old CDRom game, my choices would be this PowerMac G3 with the matching 15-inch Apple Studio Display or a Pismo or Artemis would be my choices. You found a really, really nice clean frozen in time G3, cool walkthrough .::Gary
My old school used to have these same exact Power Macintosh G3 computers too. I remember these back in the day at the time when they were brand new. I too have always loved the blue translucent case that Apple offered back then as well as the color cases from the other G3 iMacs & iBook models from this era.
I've owned many of these in the past. I'd say either it was never used or cleaned by a pro. Odd find. I can remember when the G3 was so mind blowingly fast no one could believe it! Great to see the interface running - haven't seen 8.1 for such a long time. OMG! Dead man's CV!
Had one of these at an Internet company I worked at from 99-01. Loved it! I still have one of the G3's successors -- the graphite-colored G4 -- in my basement. :)
Those computers back then are like: "Oh, you threw a brick at me? I don't care." Apple products now: Guy: *sneezes while using iPhone* iPhone: *Screen cracks into a million pieces while smoking*
+Marcos Villafuetre oh thank goodness you're hear to explain these things to us all, no one with a sense of humour could have got our heads around that without you! :P
When these machines first came out, a coworker said to me "You know why they put those handles on there? So you can throw it in the garbage easier!" Considering Apple's mentality about older systems, he wasn't far off! Also, those Quantum Fireball drives made the most awesome sound if you yanked power from them. Shut down normally, no, but power yanked, yes. When I was in college they had these drives in the machines we were using, a classmate and I would power our machines down several times during class just to hear them!
Wow, that's a pretty awesome find. To me it's even more special because it hadn't been upgraded until you did. I always love seeing old computers with their factory specs and running the factory OS that they came with. I actually have one of the older beige Power Mac G3s. It has a 300MHZ PowerPC G3 CPU, 64MBs of RAM, an 8 GB HDD, a 24X CD-ROM Drive, a ZIP Drive, and of course a floppy drive. It even has the AV Personality Card installed in it. And 6VR? I assume that it's an extra 6 MBs of Video RAM, but I'm not sure. It must have been one heck of a machine when it was manufactured on November 5th 1998. I also realised that the video card doesn't have the ADC connector on it. Did the Apple Studio Display not exist yet? Anyways, great video as always.
+Michael Davidson i think the current macs look dumb, they need to make more of those types of computers along side though. id actually buy a mac then or maybe just buy a case like that and put my system in it... dunno
I wasn't born when this PC came out yet. I can't imagine people actually did really important jobs on that "thing" Probably I can't imagine too that I watched this video on a MacBook Air when we are 16 years further in time. You made a really good video. Thanks!
If you ask me, Apple had two golden ages. The first one was from 1991-1994, when the PowerBook, and later the Power Macintosh, were new hot products. The second one was from 1998-2002, when Steve Jobs had just returned and awesome computers like the iMac G3, Power Mac G3, Power Mac G4, iBook, and Pismo PowerBook were made.
Michele Marie Dalene It's well known that old clock batteries can leak after many years. But the red Maxells have been known to actually explode. See this thread from 68kMLA: 68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/17086-warning-exploding-maxell-pram-batteries/
Pull that battery NOW! Those Maxells explode quite readily. Those Quantum drives are slow, loud, and crappy, I have the same 6.4GB in my beige G3 (built 2 months before your G3, one of the last beige ones!). That machine can run Final Cut Pro 3 under MacOS 9 with that kind of memory. OS X 10.4 is doable with 256MB of RAM as well. The only downside was that stupid 66Mhz PCI video card, these really should have had AGP slots in them.
This same thing happened to me about two months ago. I found a desktop computer in mint condition by the trash. A 2007 Dell desktop with XP Professional on it. From the files I found, it looked like it was used by a little girl to learn how to type. It's barely been used but I'm using it now. I upgraded the RAM to 2 GB and bought a 1 TB external drive for $49. This video about the G3 desktop gives me bad memories of the IMac I owned from 2000 to 2004. Just hearing that Mac boot up sound sends chills up my spine.
These typically fail for some reason, I worked at a computer store for a time in 2013 and we got tons of these in from customers that we couldn't get parts for them so they told us to keep em, all of them broken, so my boss had me disassemble them... we weren't able to refurbish the old machines due to the limited availability of parts so that's why we didn't repair them.
Thank you so much for this nostalgia trip, it made my day. And great choice with the "I'm Blue" song in the beginning. That has to be the best possible theme song for a blue Aqua series Macintosh from 99 :D I'd love to see Myst or maybe SimCity 2000 running on this machine.
Damn this is an EXTREMELY good find! Thanks for sharing this with us. I was just wondering though, do you keep and/or collect most of the vintage machines you find or sell them off if you don't have a use for them?
HDscan Back when they had this computer did they have iphones,ipads,ipods did they also have a 5k resolution imac back then... No so this is why apple is a better brand then what it was then.
+Logan Clarke back then, apple was a COMPUTER maker and had different and better hardware than what intel could produce. Now apple only foccuses on movil gadgets and apple computers are pc's only with another OS
leftyla no its not they use there name to sell, the mac book was the same as my computer but with a fancy shell on it, my computer was $750 and the mac was $1000.
You got to hand it to Apple, they really know how to design a computer case. I wish more case manufacturers would follow that design where the motherboard would tilt out when the case was opened. Would make working on the computer so much more easier.
Back then in 1997 I bought my first Mac - A Powermac 8600/250 - When you turned it on I just started to remember all those tiny noises coming out from the HDD...Ahh memories! now I realised I miss all that sound alerts like the quack! Loved it but I have to say it was quite cumbersome, a huge case but loved playing Bungie´s Marathon games on it!
2037: 128gb RAM? Pah! You need to get 512gb RAM if you wanna consider yourself a real man! Get a 128bit copy of Windows 18 too! Fallout 7 won't work without it! 2050: I bet you can't run Crysis 21! You need at least 4tb of RAM to run it! You also need a 256bit version of Windows 29!
this brings back memories to me. I had one of these computers, but I had a 350 Mhz G3. I did run os x on it for a while, and it runs well. I sold it to someone who needed a computer, but couldn't afford a new one. It really was a great computer.
I found a powermac g5 2.3 dual core with 8gb at the recycle center last week. all I had to add was a hdd that I already had a then Installed leopard. to be honest I thought it was a mac pro which is why I took it over the 2008 20" imac I saw there. I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing that too.
i bet someone bought it thinking "yah! i got a computer" then had no idea how to set it up so it just sat there in a box for years until it became obsolete, then forgotten until finally being cleaned out of the house and neatly placed on a garbage bin at the dumpster. you saved it!!! good for you man!
ukickmeikicku I got a mint-in-box iMac that way. My old middle school purchased it, and while they did set it up, it was never used, and it was kept in a locked, student-inaccessible room, so it sat in its unused form for 10 years until it was boxed back up, and was going to be thrown away, until I got a hold of it.
@@QuarioQuario54321 the Power Mac/Mac Pro was always the exception! (Even the tiny ones which end up hurting themselves, like the G4 Cube or the “trash can”!)
Even considering computers in general costed quite a lot more than they do today, 16 hundred $ (2400 $ in today's money) for a machine with such lowish specs sounds like too much.
+Giovanni Joseph The trash can Mac Pro is the most innovative thing they have done in a while. It's very impressive, even if it's not the most practical. Old Macs are the best though!
***** That was also 8 years ago. They have done some cool things with it since then, but a lot of it is just slightly thinner/lighter/faster/better camera than the last one...
I just found 2 of these laying around at someone's storage place and he gave me them. One was missing just about everything but the original motherboard. The other one has 384mb ram (1x128mb and 1x256mb) and a 16mb video card. Mine is also insanely clean as if it's brand new with no dust.
Michele Marie Dalene The first generation G5 was the worst one to have. Those models had terrible problems with BGA parts on the motherboard failing from the heat of the CPUs, requiring a new motherboard to be installed. They aren't at all easy to service either, the clamps holding in the massive CPU heatsinks are a pain to get out due to needing special bits. I rescued a G5 from the dump and it has the BGA problem, as well as several other things I was able to fix (bad memory, bad battery and bad HDD.) It runs great for about an hour then locks up with looping audio and then black screen.
Michele Marie Dalene Only the single core 1.6GHz G5 maxes out at 4GB, mine is a dual 1.8GHz and supports up to 8GB, so yours would too. But 4GB should be enough for the next few years. And if you have a 64MB Video card, I highly recommend upgrading to a 128 or 256MB card. Yours may even support a 512MB card.
TylerGaming97 The amount of video memory on a video card is not an indicator of video card performance. There are tons of bottom of the barrel garbage cards with a fat pile of RAM on them that can't be utilized because the GPU is too weak. You also can't toss any video card in an Apple machine and expect it to work. You need the Apple specific version of the card that has a PPC/EFI BIOS, standard PC cards won't work. There are also issues with Apple being geniuses and doing non-standard things with the AGP slot that make things even more irritating. And seeing how "Apple Tax" will apply here, you can expect to pay up to 500% more for the Apple version of the same PC card and actually get LESS features. You can modify a select few PC video cards to work in Apple machines, but the process isn't trivial and you can end up bricking both the machine and the card if you do something wrong. Unless your Apple machine came with a REALLY bad card like an ATI Rage or Geforce 2 MX then don't bother trying to upgrade, it's not worth it.
Agrimar? Ha, well this was unexpected. Didn't mean to find you here. A bit of an old comment but never expected to find a comment from you. ah, programmers we love old computers. Sometime's old is gold.
You know what, I may be a PC/Android fan, but I still have to give props to Apple for that case design. I'd kill for my PC to be able to open up like that and have actual HANDLES.
I bought one of these exact machines when it was first introduced. It also had a matching monitor that weighed about 600 pounds. The monitor died at about 6 years of age. I gave the computer to my brother and he is STILL using it. What amazes me about this machine is how fast it boots and how fast apps load. For using Word and Excel, it's still a very fast machine - evan at 17 years old.
I had been given a g3 with original crt in 2011 and the monitor made a firecracker sound and started smoking one night about a week later
Labe Scheinberg also seemed to be a well established physician and has written several books on the topic. Very cool that you somehow ended up with his computer!
I didnt know him in person but I looked him up. He was a respected doctor in his field of MS disease. And it is quite an honor to have owned something that he owned. Rest in peace Dr. Scheinberg.
It's interesting how easy it is to upgrade. You don't even have to unscrew anything. Apple really changed their philosophy for the worst now.
+Rom Hook That case was so great to work on. It later became the G4 too. Very heavy machines to carry about as they had so much over-engineering in them.
My Macintosh color classic had a similar design the logic board would just slide out but that's all it will do. I need a special screwdriver
Rom Hook yea idk why Steve jobs had to die it was going so well
@@henryalt411 it seems like Apple really started on a downward spiral since 2011 when Steve died. late 90s-early 2000s was peak Apple
@@howaboutsomesoyfood tbh Steve was against upgradable machines in principle, he liked the idea of sealed appliances, but he let these machines live because they were For Pros who needed the most power possible whatever the price, and so most people wouldn’t mess with them. The iMac and iBook more closely matched Steve’s “vision” as it were.
Apple in 1999: here's a computer that is really easy to take apart.
Apple in 2014: you want to take apart this computer? Fuck you, good luck not breaking it and if you take it apart, you're out one warranty.
Apple in 2020: Hahahaha! (Everything is integrated.)
@@sbrazenor2 the fanboys saying it’s totally reasonable for the low-end M2 to have half the disk bandwidth because of what ultimately were design _decisions,_ not inherent outcomes, is amazing to me.
To be fair it wasn't just to make us happier but was lower cost to manufacture. In ~1990 when Jobs created fully automated NeXT factory. He was glad to announce only one screw was needed to screw that NeXT Cube. So it could be quickly assembled and therefore cheap. But it comes with cost - more material is needed. And more parts. If you change design it require more elements. Even smalles like handles, springs etc. Cook was responsible for that process. Ever since Cook cooked Apple, they take care more about lowering costs, than quality or repairability. Repairability allows those who customize earn money - your market share grows. Money behind your brand. But not income. Same is for repairability. Allows manufacturers of replacement parts to make money. Making solid glued junk makes You earn more money at expense of others. And obviously - customer. They could make it rapairable and make old junk keep value. Allowing their customers to purchase more and gain market share. What they did instead is increased profit margin. Substancially. And stock owners are happy because they are paid.
Aw, that's quite a sad story behind it really, but they must have put it into storage as soon as he died. it's amazing you got it, I looked him up too, he was quite a legendary doctor, pioneered a lot of treatments for multiple scoliosis!
But it is interesting going through old files, I got an old video phone off eBay last year and it's got an archive of old emails, unfortunately most of them are those chain emails of people emailing unfunny jokes to each other.
Stop snooping through people's things, m89.
I see you in so many comment sections. 😅
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But have you seen mine though? :D
You spring up everywhere, Larry..
+Larry Bundy Jr
It looks like Labe (or at least this machine) wrote his wife's obituary too - at 7:01 there are documents from the date she died mentioning her name and an obituary.
Remember when Apple used to make it easy to swap things on their hardware?
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Yeah, unless it was a zip drive in a G4.... :)
Cainan Corlett Woooooow that's cool! You know, my powerbook g3 only takes 4 friggin screws and 2 clips to upgrade the cpu and ram. At the same time!
A case that opens like that today would be fucking awesome.
Gordon Heeman I had this very model and my career as an editor in Hollywood started with this. To this day, I miss that swing down door and easy upgradeability
Couple days ago, I was with my friend, and we were driving when I in the back of my eye, I saw an old Mac sitting on top of a desk on the curb for trash pickup. As soon as I realized what it was, I just yelled "OH MY GOD!" and my friend thought he ran over someone for a second until I yelled that there was a mac on the side of the road, and I just practically begged for him to turn around so I can rescue it. I got the mac, it's a power mac g4 400 mhz version made in February 2000, and it works like a charm! Interesting thing is that the original owner seems to have replaced the hard drive because the drive wasn't even mounted to the case and was missing a case mount. Still, it was the most amazing find I ever got!
Reading those files' dates... I somehow feel some nostalgia because i was very young at those times. It's a very nice discovery.
Yeah, back when hairloss was unthinkable on my 17 year old hairy metalhead mind.
I would like to adapt a gaming pc into that case.
javierortiz82 it would be awesome :D
Remove that evil red bomb (Maxell CMOS battery) before it ruins the logic board!
1912RamblerFan01 I already did.
+1912RamblerFan01 what would it do? i don't know so i ask
***** oh okay thank you mate :)
1912RamblerFan01 ikokjk
If I will remove this battery, so with what can I replace it then? Or computer cn work without this battery?
7:50 Apple opressing headphone jacks since 1999 (probably earlier)
Takeyaa br I have a Power Macintosh 6400 from 1996 with, believe this or not, a front panel headphone jack. It’s a true wonder.
ah real player. the thing i would accidentally click on at 2am and wake the whole house up. them days.
RIP Labe Scheinberg.
What?
@@nikolaszisoudis8408 the guy who owned the computer before this guy in this video. Damn I made this comment like 5 years ago.
That's a really nice looking computer. What a gorgeous design! Shame they didn't continue using it for longer.
Thanks for the walk down memory lane... had one back in 2012 used... good machine... had to give it way when I down sized life... beautiful...
I agree, the case designs from apple in the 90's where so cool. They just looked different. I really liked them.
16 year old computer works just perfectly, meanwhile your retina macbook kicks the bucket after the end of the warranty and apple gladly give you a new upgraded model barely faster than the last years one for the low price of 1299. Now you can browse facebook faster than ever.
Because people will buy a new laptop every year...
Team Fansom Potato Same here. Got a ThinkPad at work and MacBook for school and everything else, best of both worlds.
lol yes! my macbook needs a new graphics card, & my dad has 5 old macs in the basement collecting dust
Gravydog316 Thats actually really sad :(
Kincses Richárd i have an iMac g5 on the kitchen table. I want to turn my iMac g3 into a macquarium lol
Things were tough in the old days. The PC I'd bought in 2002 was supplied with 256 megabytes of DDR RAM, which sounded like a lot at the time. But I was not told that Windows XP actually required 500 megabytes of RAM just as cashe memory. Thus, in order to run Windows XP efficiently, you actually required somewhat more RAM than that. No wonder it seemed to run so lumpy. It kept upping the vitual memory it required from drive C. Yet, back in 2002, they were also selling laptops installed with XP that only had 128 megabytes of RAM.
+Stephen Clementson No way, minimum RAM requirement for XP was 64 MB (reccomended 128 MB) but almost nobody had 512 MB of RAM when XP was released to the public.
olli2591
As I recall, minimum requirements quoted for XP were stated to be absurdly inadequate at the time of its launch. In 2001, they were claiming that any PC made since 1996 could handle XP. But, as one commentator stated, his 1996 PC would have been inadequate, especially as it had only been supplied with a 1.5 gigabyte hard drive. PCs supplied with 64 megabyte RAM capacities were common, circa 1998. My 2002 machine was a recent upgrade at the time, as it was able to accommodate 1 gigabyte of RAM in the form of two 512 megabyte cards. I learned later that the previous mother board associated with that model could only accommodate 512 megabytes.
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Not for me. Moreover, 256 megabytes of RAM could not support DVD burning. So, I had to add an extra 512 megs of ram. The problems were all cured. 768 megs was enough for that system, and I noticed no further improvements with 1 gigabyte of RAM installed.
+The Professor It's a bit late to ask that question, as that computer was thrown out with the trash in 2010.
+The Professor Not to worry. It was a 2002 Packard Bell, running a 2 gigahertz Pentium 4. I built up a replacement (for the period 2010 to 2011, running Windows 7), that used a 2.7 gigahertz dual core processor, and 4 gigs of RAM. Sold that on (admittedly at a loss just to get rid of it, because my wife didn't want it), and replaced it with another home build, based on a 3.3 gigahertz i5 quad processor.
Damn, so apart from the harddrive struggling, that G3 was basically in pristine order.
This is amazing! SO this guy bought the computer in 1999, used it for four years and then probably got sick so the computer probably got put back into the box. Where it sat there for twelve years until someone through it into the garbage. Amazing find!
The owner died.
Nice machine. I remember those Quantum Fireball drives; they indeed took long to spin down (with that typical sound).
I'd love to have a modern PC with a case like this.
Fantastic video, great to see this old girl powering up and the older software running on it. Thank you
I just watched it on Mac Mini 2015. It is hard to believe how far technology has come through i just past 16 years. I exactly remember that time as I was about to graduate from Engineering college. I remember vaguely when those colored Mac has came out those were quite a big deal and it was in the news all over.
its really sad, you can see a file called "obitory editor" at 150PM sunday Jan 9 2000, then at 614PM a new file called "Louise Goldman Scheinberg"... he wrote his wifes obituary... then it looks like he died two years later.. If you could track down his family they would probably be grateful to get the old files, especially those old photos.
what
I cri evrytim ;c
www.nytimes.com/2000/01/10/classified/paid-notice-deaths-scheinberg-louise-g.html It was posted on the NY Times.
Wow. I hope they rest in peace.
Pretty sure it was his family that got rid of the computer in the first place
Maybe the original owner - who passed away - can live on though the remains of his scientific work on this Mac.
I hope I will!
I keep my old Macs in excellent condition, every four or five years they get a new battery. Then a power on and I set the clock again. In forty of fifty years the people who live then will find a great collection of contemporary music and porn movies. I hope they think that I am the actor.
I have a Mac color classic and I can't afford a new pram battery D:
The Anonymous Sir Backspace----------- Ummm about that...... :-)
:p
vanhetgoor I believe he will live on but probably in the books he wrote not his Mac lol. He was a doctor and it looks like he was a great doctor. Still it’s like this Mac is a small part of his life that is no longer here and for reason its fascinating to me.
I have one of those collecting dust on my shelf. Just can't bring myself to throw it away, these were a work of art.
These were the exact computers at my elementary school. I remember every day using these for educational programs.
Used to work on Apples and PC as a hobby..I am a PC type but gotta say the Apples I worked on were built like tanks
It's amazing what people throw away
It's just an old computer; it's nothing special. I have a number of them that I still have to get rid of; rather expensive BTOs that we purchased over the years,, that are in fact just obsolete. We should have never wasted so much money on pointless "technological" junk to begin with.
ModMokkaMatti can I have one
Just found one in the trash too!
@@metamaorphose6979 me too I have found in trash and got one saved
@@GuchiLuna Thinking about doin smth. with it? Build a hackintosh?
Even as someone who isn't really a friend of Apple products these days, I know why I liked the G3 back then.
Really an amazing piece of hardware, both the Power MAC and the iMac.
Not to think of this thing was truly capable of 1080p.
I remember working at AppleCare in Austin back when this computer was the brand new model and my manager brought a dolly over to my desk just as soon as we could get them before they started shipping and dropped off one of these and a matching B&W 17" Diamondtron Apple Studio Display monitor all new sealed in the packaging. To this day that was the best new user unboxing experience I've ever had. I loved using that computer every day. At home I had an iMac Rev B original with Office 98 Gold Edition, A wide format Epson Stylus Photo EX printer and an original Imation USB SuperDisk drive. That was the best part of my tech support career when I switched over to Mac in 1998.
A long spin-down time is pretty normal for an old Quantum fireball like that one.
Going through a somewhat nostalgia thing for my first professional Macs - used this exact model in my first graphics job after college, loved it. Mac OS 8 through 9 was zippy, fast, reliable and ran software like nothing. Sure it crashed here and there, but not often. Got the job done and I sharpened my Mac OS skills which still help me today. I remember that you can change jumpers on the motherboard to speed up the processor speed. Careful though, but I remember it did give the Power Mac G3 a boost!
At home I had a beige G3 which was also a fantastic Mac. I ran all kinds of good OS enhancement stuff, like A-Dock, an app that added a Start Menu! Speed Startup or something which did allow for faster extension loading at start up, etc. etc.
I often think about attaining an old G3 running Mac OS 8-9 running for nostalgic kicks and playing an old CDRom game, my choices would be this PowerMac G3 with the matching 15-inch Apple Studio Display or a Pismo or Artemis would be my choices. You found a really, really nice clean frozen in time G3, cool walkthrough .::Gary
My old school used to have these same exact Power Macintosh G3 computers too. I remember these back in the day at the time when they were brand new. I too have always loved the blue translucent case that Apple offered back then as well as the color cases from the other G3 iMacs & iBook models from this era.
That case looks amazing to work on. You just press a button and everything comes out of it.
...you saved Labe Scheinberg's Power Mac G3 !! :D
explain...
oh wait nvm
+Essai Martinez www.nytimes.com/2004/03/01/nyregion/labe-scheinberg-78-physician-and-multiple-sclerosis-specialist.html
stonent so hes famous
+PacFan884 And now he have sold it...
1080p from a pc from 90's?! pretty awesome
+Scott Banks no he said the osx was factory one that was shiped with the mac
+CheekyRektangle That's not osx
Ok ... i meant the factory xnu distro that this mac is using
the guy used the pc just to store his files, not for anything multimedia aparently, i guess the card was factory
+CheekyRektangle That's also not a xnu distro, that's Mac OS.
I've owned many of these in the past. I'd say either it was never used or cleaned by a pro. Odd find.
I can remember when the G3 was so mind blowingly fast no one could believe it!
Great to see the interface running - haven't seen 8.1 for such a long time. OMG! Dead man's CV!
I LOVE the old apple styling. I love the clamshell powerbooks as well, the iMacs too.
Really interesting video. Impeccably clean machine, and some crazy finds on that old hard drive.
I had one, it was awesome, easily the best looking computer I have ever used.
Had one of these at an Internet company I worked at from 99-01. Loved it! I still have one of the G3's successors -- the graphite-colored G4 -- in my basement. :)
My first computer was the G3 B&W!! Such a gorgeous machine.
Those computers back then are like: "Oh, you threw a brick at me? I don't care." Apple products now: Guy: *sneezes while using iPhone* iPhone: *Screen cracks into a million pieces while smoking*
The reason for the screen breaking is because they dropped it
+Marcos Villafuetre do jokes just fly over you naurto?
+Marcos Villafuetre oh thank goodness you're hear to explain these things to us all, no one with a sense of humour could have got our heads around that without you! :P
Wow, I didn't know an Iphone could smoke.... That's bad for its health..... :p
***** nah, everyone knows apples are healthy! :P
When these machines first came out, a coworker said to me "You know why they put those handles on there? So you can throw it in the garbage easier!" Considering Apple's mentality about older systems, he wasn't far off!
Also, those Quantum Fireball drives made the most awesome sound if you yanked power from them. Shut down normally, no, but power yanked, yes. When I was in college they had these drives in the machines we were using, a classmate and I would power our machines down several times during class just to hear them!
I love the interior design. Components are right there if you need to replace or upgrade parts.
so amazing it is THIS clean! probably never used and kept inside a box all the time ...
and then people trash such a little gem too ...
The case design is amazing. Why can't all computers open up like that? It would make upgrading or adding cards so much easier.
Because, you know, KAPITALISM.
Those were the good old days of Apple design.
@@DolganoFF even the G5/Pro design wasn’t as easy as this! But you gotta have a new design and new fashion every 5-10 years.
Wow, that's a pretty awesome find. To me it's even more special because it hadn't been upgraded until you did. I always love seeing old computers with their factory specs and running the factory OS that they came with. I actually have one of the older beige Power Mac G3s. It has a 300MHZ PowerPC G3 CPU, 64MBs of RAM, an 8 GB HDD, a 24X CD-ROM Drive, a ZIP Drive, and of course a floppy drive. It even has the AV Personality Card installed in it. And 6VR? I assume that it's an extra 6 MBs of Video RAM, but I'm not sure. It must have been one heck of a machine when it was manufactured on November 5th 1998. I also realised that the video card doesn't have the ADC connector on it. Did the Apple Studio Display not exist yet? Anyways, great video as always.
Aw man, i remember these things. They still as freakin' awesome as i remember. That design was always so impressive to me.
Cool... very nice tour of the computer, very articulate and informative! Thanks. Guess I'm not the only one with a cache of old'y but goody boxes.
Those pre OS X operating systems look so primitive now.
+Michael Davidson i think the current macs look dumb, they need to make more of those types of computers along side though. id actually buy a mac then or maybe just buy a case like that and put my system in it... dunno
+billyds132 yosemite looks awful. i still run mavericks on my 2010 unibody.
+Michael Davidson This is as old as Windows 98. Now take a look at Windows 98...
When Apple knew it was better to let users upgrade their systems, easily. Nowadays I cant even upgrade their SSDs without getting a propietary drive.
I wasn't born when this PC came out yet. I can't imagine people actually did really important jobs on that "thing" Probably I can't imagine too that I watched this video on a MacBook Air when we are 16 years further in time. You made a really good video. Thanks!
If you ask me, Apple had two golden ages. The first one was from 1991-1994, when the PowerBook, and later the Power Macintosh, were new hot products. The second one was from 1998-2002, when Steve Jobs had just returned and awesome computers like the iMac G3, Power Mac G3, Power Mac G4, iBook, and Pismo PowerBook were made.
Oh no! A red Maxell! Get that battery out of there before it explodes!
Michele Marie Dalene It's well known that old clock batteries can leak after many years. But the red Maxells have been known to actually explode. See this thread from 68kMLA: 68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/17086-warning-exploding-maxell-pram-batteries/
Pull that battery NOW! Those Maxells explode quite readily. Those Quantum drives are slow, loud, and crappy, I have the same 6.4GB in my beige G3 (built 2 months before your G3, one of the last beige ones!). That machine can run Final Cut Pro 3 under MacOS 9 with that kind of memory. OS X 10.4 is doable with 256MB of RAM as well. The only downside was that stupid 66Mhz PCI video card, these really should have had AGP slots in them.
This same thing happened to me about two months ago. I found a desktop computer in mint condition by the trash. A 2007 Dell desktop with XP Professional on it. From the files I found, it looked like it was used by a little girl to learn how to type. It's barely been used but I'm using it now. I upgraded the RAM to 2 GB and bought a 1 TB external drive for $49. This video about the G3 desktop gives me bad memories of the IMac I owned from 2000 to 2004. Just hearing that Mac boot up sound sends chills up my spine.
Awesome find ! You can tell the early 2000`s computers had all them fancy curves.
I'll admit I like the look of that G3 case.
These typically fail for some reason, I worked at a computer store for a time in 2013 and we got tons of these in from customers that we couldn't get parts for them so they told us to keep em, all of them broken, so my boss had me disassemble them... we weren't able to refurbish the old machines due to the limited availability of parts so that's why we didn't repair them.
This model was my main Mac for many years - it's a gem! Very upgradable too if you throw some money into it.
Thank you so much for this nostalgia trip, it made my day. And great choice with the "I'm Blue" song in the beginning. That has to be the best possible theme song for a blue Aqua series Macintosh from 99 :D
I'd love to see Myst or maybe SimCity 2000 running on this machine.
Damn this is an EXTREMELY good find! Thanks for sharing this with us.
I was just wondering though, do you keep and/or collect most of the vintage machines you find or sell them off if you don't have a use for them?
KingsleyKingOfHV I keep my most favorite machines and sell or donate the rest.
Your channel is very interesting. Good find.
What a great find. I love when the software is completely intact and is a snapshot of how it would have been configured at the time.
i would never, ever changed anything, keep that in glass bell!! Amazing!
This was made when apple was a good brand.
+NateZammit apple is a even better brand then what it was then
HDscan Back when they had this computer did they have iphones,ipads,ipods did they also have a 5k resolution imac back then... No so this is why apple is a better brand then what it was then.
+Logan Clarke back then, apple was a COMPUTER maker and had different and better hardware than what intel could produce. Now apple only foccuses on movil gadgets and apple computers are pc's only with another OS
+NateZammit It's still a good brand.
leftyla no its not they use there name to sell, the mac book was the same as my computer but with a fancy shell on it, my computer was $750 and the mac was $1000.
That's a sweet case. I'd love to put new hardware in there.
Abel you can get macs with such cases (later g3s and the g4s) very cheap if you just want to have the case and dont care about function
You got to hand it to Apple, they really know how to design a computer case. I wish more case manufacturers would follow that design where the motherboard would tilt out when the case was opened. Would make working on the computer so much more easier.
Back then in 1997 I bought my first Mac - A Powermac 8600/250 - When you turned it on I just started to remember all those tiny noises coming out from the HDD...Ahh memories! now I realised I miss all that sound alerts like the quack!
Loved it but I have to say it was quite cumbersome, a huge case but loved playing Bungie´s Marathon games on it!
1999: 64 Mb RAM?! WOW! AMAZING!
2016: Only 2 GB RAM?!?!?!?!?! Bullshit!
+Carlos Eduardo It's probably the processor doing its magic.
I have 16gb of ram and a Intel 3.5 ghz processer
+Charles Campuz Well I saw a PC running Windows 7 well on a Pentium 4 CPU with 1GB or ram.
2037: 128gb RAM? Pah! You need to get 512gb RAM if you wanna consider yourself a real man! Get a 128bit copy of Windows 18 too! Fallout 7 won't work without it!
2050: I bet you can't run Crysis 21! You need at least 4tb of RAM to run it! You also need a 256bit version of Windows 29!
Fokker TISM 2098 why dont you use Windows 98 it has paint 4D
Just what I wanted to hear this morning; Eiffel 65.
this brings back memories to me. I had one of these computers, but I had a 350 Mhz G3. I did run os x on it for a while, and it runs well. I sold it to someone who needed a computer, but couldn't afford a new one. It really was a great computer.
It's so amazing that it works so well, they used to make them to last! Wish I had still had mine.
I found a powermac g5 2.3 dual core with 8gb at the recycle center last week. all I had to add was a hdd that I already had a then Installed leopard. to be honest I thought it was a mac pro which is why I took it over the 2008 20" imac I saw there. I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing that too.
GeekisCarnage why didnt you grabbed both?
Like even if you only have use for one pc you can probably sell the other one or get parts out of it.
The past owner of the computer was a neurologist.
Ah man, I love watching your videos, they always give that nostalgic feeling
i bet someone bought it thinking "yah! i got a computer" then had no idea how to set it up so it just sat there in a box for years until it became obsolete, then forgotten until finally being cleaned out of the house and neatly placed on a garbage bin at the dumpster. you saved it!!! good for you man!
ukickmeikicku I got a mint-in-box iMac that way. My old middle school purchased it, and while they did set it up, it was never used, and it was kept in a locked, student-inaccessible room, so it sat in its unused form for 10 years until it was boxed back up, and was going to be thrown away, until I got a hold of it.
What happened to Apple making their products to easy to repair/upgrade? Nowadays opening an Apple product is a nightmare.
Lilith Valentine The main exception is the Mac Pro.
@@QuarioQuario54321 the Power Mac/Mac Pro was always the exception! (Even the tiny ones which end up hurting themselves, like the G4 Cube or the “trash can”!)
Brilliant!!! I wonder what that retailed for when it was new? Probably uber expensive.
Original price was US $1599.
Even considering computers in general costed quite a lot more than they do today, 16 hundred $ (2400 $ in today's money) for a machine with such lowish specs sounds like too much.
Hearing the system sounds brought chills on my back... The old times...
Haha! I remember working on these when I was a PC repair technician at CompUSA. I believe these were some of the last Apple products I worked on.
This is like a time-machine :D
back when they where innovative
+Giovanni Joseph The trash can Mac Pro is the most innovative thing they have done in a while. It's very impressive, even if it's not the most practical.
Old Macs are the best though!
+Giovanni Joseph Yeah you're mad if you think apple don't innovate. The iphone itself was the biggest thing to impact our daily lives.
***** That was also 8 years ago. They have done some cool things with it since then, but a lot of it is just slightly thinner/lighter/faster/better camera than the last one...
bassl0va the changes are too slight thats probably my only problem with apple
Since Steve Jobs died Apple hasn't innovated...
Yes! I had one of these, exact same machine and color. :D I got mine as a christmas present from a friend of mine; he got it from a publishing house.
Ah, the sound it made when starting up, the light gurgling, just reminds me of when I was a young boy, playing KidPix in the living room.
I have this exact same computer and it still works!!
haha!
1080p in 1999 and xbox 360 couldnt do that... damn...
***** 'nt you forgot that dont worry i got you bro!
***** thanks I forgot it...
There actually were a few 360 games that were native 1080. Meanwhile most games were upscaled to 1080. So yes, it actually could do that. Lol
I just found 2 of these laying around at someone's storage place and he gave me them. One was missing just about everything but the original motherboard. The other one has 384mb ram (1x128mb and 1x256mb) and a 16mb video card. Mine is also insanely clean as if it's brand new with no dust.
Seriously nice find - can't believe someone would chuck this away!
I really, really, reallllllllllly like your videos vwestlife.
i just found a silver Power Mac G 5. Also a great computer.
Michele Marie Dalene they go to 8gb of ram
4 2gb sticks
Michele Marie Dalene The first generation G5 was the worst one to have. Those models had terrible problems with BGA parts on the motherboard failing from the heat of the CPUs, requiring a new motherboard to be installed. They aren't at all easy to service either, the clamps holding in the massive CPU heatsinks are a pain to get out due to needing special bits.
I rescued a G5 from the dump and it has the BGA problem, as well as several other things I was able to fix (bad memory, bad battery and bad HDD.) It runs great for about an hour then locks up with looping audio and then black screen.
Michele Marie Dalene Only the single core 1.6GHz G5 maxes out at 4GB, mine is a dual 1.8GHz and supports up to 8GB, so yours would too. But 4GB should be enough for the next few years. And if you have a 64MB Video card, I highly recommend upgrading to a 128 or 256MB card. Yours may even support a 512MB card.
TylerGaming97
The amount of video memory on a video card is not an indicator of video card performance. There are tons of bottom of the barrel garbage cards with a fat pile of RAM on them that can't be utilized because the GPU is too weak.
You also can't toss any video card in an Apple machine and expect it to work. You need the Apple specific version of the card that has a PPC/EFI BIOS, standard PC cards won't work. There are also issues with Apple being geniuses and doing non-standard things with the AGP slot that make things even more irritating.
And seeing how "Apple Tax" will apply here, you can expect to pay up to 500% more for the Apple version of the same PC card and actually get LESS features. You can modify a select few PC video cards to work in Apple machines, but the process isn't trivial and you can end up bricking both the machine and the card if you do something wrong.
Unless your Apple machine came with a REALLY bad card like an ATI Rage or Geforce 2 MX then don't bother trying to upgrade, it's not worth it.
i love how they even put the time of the day it was made on the back
That HD "spin down" sounds like a jet plane engine shutting down after landing. Cool!
Fun Fact:
This Mac was made on Kurt Cobain's 32nd Birthday!
+ThatGTAFan720 If he even would have made it that far.
MrEthan520 Anonymous he unfortunately didn't.
LOL!
R.I.P Labe C. Scheinberg
Agrimar? Ha, well this was unexpected. Didn't mean to find you here. A bit of an old comment but never expected to find a comment from you. ah, programmers we love old computers. Sometime's old is gold.
these g3 and g4 cases look nice, and the g5 case along with the mac pro version look stylish in their own right
You know what, I may be a PC/Android fan, but I still have to give props to Apple for that case design. I'd kill for my PC to be able to open up like that and have actual HANDLES.