TIG Welding/Brazing Cast Iron Vise
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2017
- I have had really good results tig welding cast iron using AC and Aluminum bronze filler rod. ( thats ErCu-Al-A2)
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But only on cast iron that does not operate at high temperatures like exhaust manifolds.
On those type jobs, there are better filler metals that more closely match the expansion and contraction of cast iron.
Nickel rods and even stainless have been used on exhaust manifolds successfully but those type parts can be a crap shoot.
This video shows a simple repair on a cast iron vise.
I have another repair to do where a larger vise cracked from someone cranking on a cheater bar and I will post that video as soon as I get it welded. - Навчання та стиль
About 25 years ago I TIG welded a cast Iron sides on a Johnson Horizontal Saw, with a SS filler. Still working as I use the saw every day.
Thank you Jody for your helpful videos. I retired from an airline and this type of repair work was not common. My new job is at an Electric motor repair shop, where I am getting accustomed to welding cast iron and cast aluminum. I used your method to replace a broken off lug, on a motor end bell. Turned out great. Thank you.
I haven't welded with aluminum bronze yet, definitely need to do that! I have to give you a lot of credit. Yes, the tips and tricks are good, but your real advantage are those crystal clear arc shots. Best of any I have seen, including the ones taken with those $5,000 welding cameras. See you next week!
Jody, I'd like to thank you. I've got a cast iron gear with a broken tooth that needs fixing...this video came at a good time.
Without you, I would not have been able to learn how to weld. I have most of your CD's and I'll be getting more soon. I made a welding table last summer through the eyes of a machinist and made videos of it and I'll be posting it soon.
Time flies but I come back to your videos Jody again and again considering it as best lessons for welders! Thanks a lot for your videos!
Thanks again for yet another great video, Jody. Can't wait to see the repair on that vise!
Answered one of my questions, I'd miss this video somehow. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge you provide.
Very satisfying to watch these repair videos sir. I look forward to the other vice repairs.
Talk about surfacing. I remeber in welding school I was like when am I going to surgace with TIG. Great application demonstration. Thank you for all your amazing content knowledge Jody!!!
You learn something new every day ! And this isolation is providing me with so much very useful information ! I tig weld every day whether alloy or ferrous but have never attempted to weld cast with the tig and now you've given me the process , thank you very much !
I was thinking the same thing until I found out that aluminum bronze filler wire is in the $35/lb. range! The piece would definitely have to be a pricey item to justify the repair cost! Great to know about it though, because I’ve seen numerous times when a client wanted something repaired regardless of the price!
Great video, I love seeing repair work!
Awesome video. Great tips I’ve for years done a lot of aluminum Have never done stainless or any steel I’ve tried brazing once but this will really help me learn Thank you
Larry
Just caught this today.
Amazing man. You are a great teacher. I never would have thought of building up that much.
It’s probably stronger than the cast original!
You da man.
you just have to make sure there is no porosity or inclusions
Hi Jody, great video, appreciate the videovideo's you do, I've been in the trade a long time but still enjoy learning new ways of welding different materials.
Awesome work Jody. Another super helpful video!
Nice repair, I've never used alum bronze on cast iron before but I've got some stuff in the garage to try it on, thanks for sharing.
That is one of the coolest things I have ever seen! Thanks tons Jody! I have had tons of poor or less than poor results using silicon bronze. I usually just end up throwing the whole piece out and getting a new one on the end. :-)
Jodie ur a beast dude, I’ve seen a lot of good welders but I’ve never seen someone who can do what u do. Hopefully one day I’ll know just half of what u do
Thanks for the video not had any experience with alum-bronze welding but will get some rods and find something to weld... totally enjoy the videos and helps in brushing up on things not done in years or as in this video never... good insight and useful information.
Thumbs UP!
Thanks for the great videos, I haven't welded/tig brazed any cast iron, but I would like to, and after seeing you're vids I feel like I could get a handle on it without pulling out too much of my hair.
Nice product placement on the DiResta ice pick, too.
Great video! It is really interesting to see exactly how to use alumbronze to repair cast iron and it looks so cool too! Thanks for a solid repair and an awesome video to watch also, your the man!!
thanks JD. It was a lot of fun. And lots of opinions expressed here on better ways to do it too so maybe everyone learns something new from all the comments
Thank you Jody. Another great video.
I have a vise on my work table that I broke and welded with 7018, and hammered between each pass. Still working well after almost 30 years.
Wow great tip. I've never tried to weld cast iron but I know the day will come eventually. Need to get out the powertig and do some practicing. I love these videos.
That was a real nice repair! Nice video
Thank you
Great video as usual. 👍🏻 I ran mag drills a lot at my last job, I love those things.
Hey Jodi awesome content this video particularly is very detail rich in the intro, very informative but also logical, just the way I like it! 😉😎💪👌🤙
Nice work Jody!
I'm sure it's not cost-effective for this particular job, but a great demo for this TYPE of job. For example, I've got a Carraro steering knuckle on a CASE 4WD tractor that needs some build-up in a seal area. It would cost about $2000 to replace it, but if I could build it up and machine it, that would keep me going for another few decades. Keith Fenner did a good demo on an almost identical repair, using traditional torch brazing, but it's good to have alternatives, and TIG looks a lot more controlled.
We used to have a huge vise in the shop of our business, it was probably 100 years old, smooth as glass, my Dad had bought it at an auction of a railroad round house back in the early 50's. I should have kept it but let the auctioneers sell it after I closed it down and retired. Heck I wish I would have been able to keep the whole shop, but I just couldn't afford to do it.
Aluminum bronze. Looks a mistery to weld ! Definitely trying this out👍🏻🤘🏻
What's up Jody...you'll be at a million subscribers soon
About the craziest thing I welded cast iron was an old above -ground water well pump that had been frozen and broken into pieces. I did not use silicon bronze but rather nickel stick welds and pieced it together like a puzzle , welded it together on one side to get the shape then ground into the cracks and welded back and forth till it was all solid welded. Pre-heating it every time. It took a lot of lunch breaks at my job but I got it welded up air tight.
I picked up a tig finger at my local Norco welding and I love it!
Burned
love it... I need to build up the very corners of the moving jaw on a big old vise and this is the advise I was looking for. now it's time to get some of that aluminium bronze. :)
Great job as always sir!!
very nice repair.
Well I have enjoyed watching your how to videos, I have learned a lot. I have a question that I think you will be able to give me the best answer. I have a very old metal lathe that my Grandfather used for many year. I have it now and have been using it for at least 50 years. Now somehow I over stressed the tool post holder which is also part of the compound cross feed. My question is what is the best method and material to get this back together with the highest strength?
awesome can't wait to see the repair on that simplex I recently did one on a similar vise but I'm curious to see how it comes out! Rock on brother!
Great job!
Hey Jody, another great video and commentary, I love it when you walk us through the process. I need to fill some holes in a radial arm drill table I am currently restoring so this method with TIG/Al/Bronze would be ok? Any hints how to tackle it ie should I concentrate on one area or spread the work out. The table is 640x900mm and holes all over it. I love the use of the Pyrex cups and use them all the time myself now as it seems to help my visibility of the torch too so thanks for putting me on to them. Cheers, Gordon, AUS
great lesson , thanks , and the Tig Finger is great to use around here ....
Hi Jody,
Thanks again for the video and all you do!
One thing. I would not leave the top of the weld rough like you did, this leaves the bolt sitting on small contact areas that can cause stress cracks. Better to grind it flush so the bolt sits flat over as wide an area as possible.
Rob
Jody your the best!
Nice example of what can be done. I would love you to show repairing fins on a cast iron motorcycle barrel if possible, I could really do with some tips on that.. I have one I have been working on but the material is so thin, even tig welding (or brazing, whatever folks prefer to call it) with silicon bronze I'm getting cracking. May get some ali bronze and try that now.Thanks Jody.
Excellent Job.
Arc shots awesome
Great video. What filler metal would you use for a cast iron exhaust manifold? And what about cast alum intake?
Always look forward to your videos on cast repair. I've been using Ni99 with some success, mostly on engine components that have to heat cycle a lot. I was told the expansion rate is closer to cast to help. But how nicely this aluminum bronze flowed makes me want to give it a try. Would love if you could do a video comparing and contrasting different filler metals or different techniques for cast and when one would be more appropriate.
Ditto. Ni99Ti is the go-to choice for anything I fix that will heat cycle. :)
I've tried the silicon bronze rod on a vice repair. it was difficult to drill, had to heat treat to soften it. I'll try the aluminium bronze next. I`m not a pro but learning.
Another great tip. Thanks
Great video.... Love it...... Thanks....
Thanks as always, Jody. but I expected you to sweat the two parts together. What would be the problem with this?
Any good tips how to fill up holes on an old abused cast iron drillpress table?
Hey Jody I really enjoy your videos I find them very informative. I was reading a blog on your website about starting a business I was wondering any chance we can see a video demonstrating some of the points in that video (ex. Welding desks, shopping carts, mailboxes) thanks
Hey Jody, Interesting video. Do you think that filler rod would work well on injection molded aluminum? I work in a shop build up a surface made up of injection molded aluminum so it can be machined back to spec. The stuff is a real pia to tig- air pockets etc...
Hey Jody,should you use a respirator because of the copper content in the filler.
Great video- thanks!
I fixed one of my old vises which had a good 3inch long crack with 2.5mm 304 SS stick welding rods, and the vise has never cracked on me again. I think that 304 + 309 SS works well on cast iron which does not heat cycle.
Hi great video. I have a question what in your oppinion is best way to fix (add material) to chipped anvil. I have tig and mma welder available. many thanks for your support.
Hey Jody,
Thanks for all the great info on TIG brazing! I have tried using SiBz dc, and AlBz ac on a few cast iron repairs with excellent results. There is also a third alloy available called Nickel-Aluminum-Bronze. This alloy has about the same melting temp as AlBz, but it has a substantially greater tensile strength. Have you ever used this or do you know anything about it? I would be interested in seeing a side-by-side comparison on this as well, and you are the man to do it! Thanks for all the great videos, you have really "upped" my welding game.
That explains why the mini vise I repaired with er70s2 failed so quickly, new welder here...
Amazing work Jody. I have a related question, I'm TIG brazing silicon bronze for artistic purposes. No joining of metals just filling voids for aesthetics. Would you recommend AC or DC? Base metal is clean AR500. I'm assuming you went AC because of the cast iron, just curious what you would recommend for a similar build-up project.
Nice old vintage heavy duty vise at the end there...👍..
I have been on the fence about welding my Wilton bullet vise that has a nice big chip on the shelf under the jaws i was thinking of silicone bronze i don’t have an ac tig welder no aluminum for me
I do not understand why 25 peple gave "do not like".( people are jealous and spiteful ) Its professional work .Thanks for this video.
HOLY COW! Those alu/bronze rods are something like $400 buck per 5 kg down here in Oz. That's a freaking lot of rod in that weld!!!
thanks. I don't recall seeing a video on welding cast iron to steel. if you have one can you point me to it, basically looking to weld a gooseneck cast coupler. use your info and did buy an Everlast 160 tig, works great. looking to utilize my buzz box more, heard I can do cast with it as well.
thanks again.
ALWAYS BRILLIANT
great video
Have a 6" vise just like that snapped the frame while installing ujoints. Was going to dump it but this gives me hope.
How do aluminum bronze vs. silicon bronze compare for cast iron, what's the advantage of each?
Which one flows / wets easier?
Thanks Jody !
Jody, I've been tig welding for years, but I have a problem with my foot pedal every time I listen to bluegrass music! Hep me! Hep me! I cain't stop my leg! By the way, Burr King is made in my town in the Ozarks. Good little machine. Keep the videos coming . They are great.
Hey Jody always enjoy your videos there great and you explain a lot about what your doing. I really love the tig finger too it's helped me out a lot. I wanted to ask for one request I would like to see a video of tig welding schedule 10 stainless steel pipe got a test on that coming up soon. Thanks
can you fix a crack in a motor block ??
very cool thanks for the video.
I use alumabronz allot to overlay crane hooks for paper mills so they don't gaul the bearing surface of the paper roll shafts, but we use a MIG spray transfer process.
For gray cast iron nickel based electrodes or filler wire are using, if job is for big clients... My question is can we do mpi or pt test on welded joints? Nickel based.. So
So can u get a "cold joint" situation like you can when say sweating copper pipes together??
Would be curious to see TIG aluminum with with Muggy super alloy.
WOULD SILICON BRONZE BE SAFE TO USE FOR A CAST IRON SKILLET. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
-BOB
How do you record your welds that you can actually see the bevel grove or where your filling?
What kind of shielding gas do you use for this process?
Definitely storing this in the memory bank
where i can but a complete gas lens cup kit that do international shipping?
Can I use this same process on a air compressor pulley?
How do you get such crisp clear arc shots?
Would you weld a enginecast iron head the same way?
What’s your feeling on brazing up engine blocks when people don’t winterize them?
Can you please do a video showing how to tig weld 2 bits of 3 inch stainless steel tube going to one bit of 3inch ss tube ? (Shotgun exhaust)
I''ll try this.thanks
I have a friend's cider press that needs a cast iron part (light load bearing; it goes to the apple grinder) repaired. Would this work well for an application that takes a small amount of stress? Not a whole lot, but it supports a hand crank used to grind apples.
like that welder you are a good welder keep it up
I would like to tig weld nickel 55 rod on my vise ..but not sure how it will flow with out over heating it.? i have a big and small fisher cracks that need to be fixed....
would helium argon mix have aided with oxidizing of the weld
How much rod is needed for such a repair??
I recently repaired a cast vice from a saw which had been repaired many times in the past using wrong techniques and materials.
I used nickel welding rods and it works pretty good!
Can this be process be used on something like a timing cover that still gets hot, but not as hot as an exhaust?
Hey Jody, do you ever sand blast things to prep metal? I fixed a vice recently and as usual, i did a quick clean up with a bead blast. And after seeing this, i will be trying a bronze braze as you instructed here. I used ER312 filler metal, and it worked good, but i could feel how hard the weld became because of the available carbon in the casting.
Thank you
The bead blast medium can contaminate the material you are welding.
And good Video like always!