Should I Use Side All The Time? | Snooker Tips
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00:00 Intro
00:15 How often I use side
01:43 I use side even without a cushion
01:55 Don't try to be perfect
02:39 Side speeds the cue ball up
03:11 The vertical line changes the angle
04:11 Deciding if you should use side
04:24 Can you clean the 4 red line?
04:47 Can you clear the colours?
05:00 Can you pot a medium straight red?
05:15 If you pass the tests, side is OK
05:39 The guitar analogy
06:31 Get a good foundation
06:52 Black stun - no side needed
07:30 Red screw - no side needed
08:01 Side is useful when hitting a cushion
08:45 Summary
09:36 Book a lesson! - Спорт
Will come back in 5 years, when I finally learned how to clear 4 straights red ! (thanks for another great video!)
Man, I wish I still lived in the UK so I could come for a lesson. I always find useful stuff in these videos. You are a great teacher. You always say WHY you do what you do.
Thanks! Really appreciate it 👍
Very imformative editing, how ever i would love to share a bit from my experiment.
This shot you mention im called it as a fraction, as it do nothing or similar with side on its physics, a static ball often have 2 scenarios when we try to move them, 1 a grip from your chalk on your cue tip and 2 a cloth on snooker baize, this booth have a friction, if you do experiment by draw tru a cue ball right at centre slowly you will notice ball try to escaping side by side instead of rolling this make the shot not accurate deliver to intended path.
Now try to draw tru cue ball slowly but this time with a little fraction of side, you will notice the ball move much straighter, this is because forcing a ball to roll upon impact tru a cue ball will reduce drag force and eliminate error on every shot.
There are another way to reduce this drag force on a cue ball if you a centre ball player which is by applying scooping on your cueing technique, (look similar like ronnie cue action) but it vary tricky to master..
Experiment it by place a cue ball and then raise up your bridge hand, then scoope a cue ball slowly, you will notice the drag force eliminate.
I did this experiment for already over 1 year, tested on multiple table and my conclution
1) a fraction of side does make shot more accurate to intended path.
2) a shot with fraction of side wont take effect of spin when hitting a cusion, it should cancel out, if it spin then you have apply it wrong or to much of side.
3) à scoope shot will cancel out drag force without applying side, however its very difficult to mastering it.
4) side should be apply only when you going to hit a cusion rail or change the angle of cue ball and mostly player use for escaping or far positioning.
Came for the side advice. Stayed for the guitar lesson and the impressive new text effects 😉. Great work as always 👍
Cheers thank you 👍😀
Quality vid again! You have a knack of answering the questions I'm asking myself. Cheers
Your videos really helping me to improve my game! I'm pretty new in snooker, so thanks a lot and keep up💪
Not only a superb coach but the effort you put into these vids is awesome liking all the AE text
Hi Steve, I love your idea about setting yourself a little test to gauge your ability. It would be fascinating if you could devise other tests to measure higher levels of ability. I think it would be very motivating to try to work your way up the various levels. Also it would set realistic expectation levels. So if a player was, for example, a 'mid level' standard then they wouldn't beat themselves up for not getting 100 breaks. (me!) Plus it would help them understand how much improvement was needed in order to realistically expect 100 breaks. Does that make sense? "The Barton Scale". I can see it now!
Great video. Really like the graphics you’ve incorporated. I’m sure it takes more time to edit but it’s appreciated. Every time I watch one of these videos I want to grab my cue and go straight down to my club. (Sometimes the advice works and sometimes, due only to my ability, it doesn’t!)
Thanks 😊 for the update ❤
These videos are superb thanks.
wow, this was very imspiring. in the last time my game seems to be too much complicated and i wasnt able to clear all these things you told. i will try this to simplify my game. i think, im doing this because i use to do this at pool. thanks a lot. your tutorials are awesome.
Another excellent subject, explained so well. Fascinated by the guitar playing comparison! That's something I've been doing for 50+ years. Probably a good thing we didn't get on that subject, when you came to Norwich? Wish I had the same experience on the snooker table...😂
8:37 - Wrong side of the blue there really. That was the last red! 😆Sorry, I had to. Great video.
I think the advice to build on a good foundation is something I need to always remember!
Amazing video. Thank you
Love the guitar analogy ❤
Thanks for this video Steve. I recall requesting this sometime back as a comment on one of your videos. Great to see that you remembered and made a video. This was very really helpful.
Cheers 👍
Great Video. thanks
comparing with playing guitar is clear to see it. Thanks much sir.
Great video. I like it when professional players use side and the cue ball comes off the cushion.
great video
Thanks!
Very good video and lesson👏
If i may ask a question Steve, love your videos by the way, using helpful side feels very natural and when getting used to it and allowing for it becomes easier etc…..However if you wanted to pot a high black for example using helping RH side but instead needed to use LH side for a particular positional shot it (check side?) it seems a lot harder for some reason? The check side seems to have a more/ deflective etc effect on the shot outcome. Is that just me or a peculiar fact?
Thx Steve.
thanks mate
Love your videos Barton, I've seen them all. Which is the best way to fix your eyes seeing uncorrectly the centreball? I've tried the Chris Hendry balls to no sucess and I think unintentional side its what its keeping me to go 40+ breaks.
That’s my next hours practice sorted. Think I can but like the challenge.
Was looking forward to see this topic from you, great, thank you!
So I did really incorporate this helping side into my game after playing plain ball for about 10 years. It feels more natural for exactly the two reasons you explained.
I am currently at the stage to figure out at which small angels I should stop playing side because at some point the ball is to straight and the helping side kicks the white ball out of the line.
Then I am experimenting with the amount of helping side vs the distance between white and OB.
And since I am playing the helping side I now discover how important it is to incorporate the direction of the nap.
Another topic is when the WB is on the cushion. Do the Pros play helping side when they are tight on the cushion? I mean, if it's hard to find the middle with the hand on the table, then it feels utopian to find the middle on the ball against the cushion.
You're right.. tight on the cushion no side is played. You just try and hit the middle of the cue ball. That's mostly because top and side is very hard to judge. The curve that the cue ball does happens quickly and it's very hard to judge. So mostly we avoid that.
I start playing snooker with using maximum side. Ending up now I can play very well with ot without sides.
Great video! I can see from experience how much time you put into your editing! What app do you use for the speed and cueball marker that’s really cool
Thanks a lot 👍
I use:
Adobe Premiere Pro
@@BartonSnooker ok Thankyou keep up the good work 👌
I prefer playing little traces of side with every shot myself. (It's been a habit I think from a very young age) I kinda play it in a way where I'm placing my cue in the direction of travel that I'm looking for... so a subtle stun shot from the black for a red just above the black spot, I'll place my cue towards 4 O'Clock (about half the width of my tip) which is the direction I want the cue ball to travel and land nicely for the next red. Although it technically doesn't effect the white, it's a psychological habit in which it makes me feel comfortable in directing the white. And because it's only a psychological thing, if I wanted to actually play with side with actual results, then of course I would place my cue further from the centre.
I do like things 'on the side', like a bit of cheese cubes with a Guinness but all jokes aside, this is a awesome video!
And we are very close to video #200 😯
Great video mate.
Cheese cubes and Guinness sounds good 🤤
Thanks a lot 🎱 Master Steve Barton 🇬🇧
I am kinder impressed & inspired by this Tutorial video as it is clearing that my 🇿🇦🎱 Master is correct to say I should use sides when it is necessary to do so... Thanks for making it clearer to Us cause really it shows we are in the right path. Thanks a lot for sharing such massive information in regard to assist us out there. God bless You more & more 🎱 Master Barton. 🙏🏼😇
Masta Leon from 🇿🇦
Thank you Leon 🙂
Very good coach! Thank you so much Barton. I wish I were there for a face to face tutorials. Kian, from IRAN
His first name is Steve NOT barton.
Side on cue ball which side object ball side we have to hit for example if we use left side of cue ball same side of objext ball or right side we have to hit thank you mr
Yes, as much as possible!😂
...and that's how he got the nickname Steve "a touch of left hand side" Barton
This could have some similarities to golf, as very rarely do players not fade or draw the ball so they can allow for it, if you purposely put slight side on every shot you shouldnt put unwanted side on
I'd already heard some pro's accept they have a low chance of hitting the exact centre so instead play a bit of side on every shot. What I don't quite understand is, surely they have no more precision over exactly where on the right or left of cue ball they hit either. (I.e. if say you would have 90% accuracy at hitting direct centre, surely you also have 90% accuracy of hitting the exact intended amount of side as well - as opposed to slightly less or more side than you intended). So I don't understand how it's any different in that regard?? Is it because the difference between 4mm and 5mm to the right, for example, somehow has less of an impact as compared to direct centre and 1mm to the right..? If that makes sense. Thanks!
There is little difference whether you hit a cue ball through the center or with a helping side.
But!! If you occasionally hit it 1mm an opposite side, you will miss.
In your words when you cut the ball to the left it is the same to hit the cueball into the center, 1 mm to the right, 2 mm to the right and even 3mm to the right.
But if you occasionally hit the cue ball with only 1mm a left side you will miss.
It is the opposite side to a helping side is what players are afraid!
That is why players prefer to aim helping side 1mm away from the center, because if the miss to the left or right it will still be a helping side or a center of the cue ball thus meaning they will pot the ball anyway.
But if you aim into the center you have a chance to hit the cueball into the opposite side. And even 1mm there will give you a miss.
I hope i explained it. English is not my native language
Yes understand thank you
Exactly that Matt.
If I am deliberately playing for 4mm left let's say, then if I hit: 4mm, 3mm, 2mm it won't matter. Even if I actually catch centre I should be OK.
But if I'm aiming for centre, and I catch the WRONG side of the cue ball by 1mm, that will cause me to miss.
@@BartonSnooker thank you
Touch of inside helps as well?
Teach us more on Maxi's shot😊
Hii sir, please help me with this doubt- i either leave my cue after my delivery or my elbow drops. I'm not able to get the complete shot. What might go wrong and how do i correct it! 🙏
hi mr bartoon please show up training tables for players in your channel
If i may ask a question Steve, love your videos by the way, using helpful side feels very natural and when getting used to it and allowing for it becomes easier etc.....However if you wanted to pot a high black for example using helping RH side but instead needed to use LH side for a particular positional shot it (check side?) it seems a lot harder for some reason? The check side seems to have a more deflective/throw etc effect on the shot outcome. Is that just me or a peculiar fact?
Th× Steve.
Yes that's right. The opposite side needs more of a compensation, and that's why we avoid that by playing helping side.
As you say, sometimes not possible though and we may need the opposite side for positional reasons.
@@BartonSnooker Thanks Steve, it’s a strange one!
I am more than happy if I pot a red and any colour, to get into two figure breaks is extraordinary 😂
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yeah, you need to be on very high level to do this. First you need to get rid of unwanted side on all kind of shots, have a perfect straight cuing, achieve good cue power to make the white roll all around the table, and made cueball go exactly where you want it to. After that you can see the benefits of putting those little sides there. I'm not at that level 🙂 I play side only when cueball hits the cushion and mostly running side when I need to speed up the white for positional reasons. Playing it more would screw up my pot success percentage.
BTW, I can clear up the colors and those 4 reds in 5 attempts, but I would say, you should be able to clear up the whole lineup to start using side all the time. Colors clear up is just potting 6 balls and those 4 reds is just 8, right. You should be able to pot more in a row than that, I believe.
Is spin induced throw not a thing in snooker?
Yes, it is a thing.
I'm so bad I can't help BUT put side on every shot!
Good stuff ❤❤
Last sunday i lost the game..what was mistake is i was in bit hurry in playing my shot..and i was untouch the snooker for one month..
Hi steve, really like your videos and you come across as a nice guy, i'm a coach myself, you release lots of videos and this is the first video i've not agreed with your content. Using unnecessary side spin isn't a good habit to get into, what might work in practice doesn't necessarily work under pressure when you become jabby or start decelerating you will end up getting more deflection
Hi John,
Thanks a lot. Great to know you have enjoyed the videos.
Yeah, I use side on every shot unless the pot is straight. As does Ronnie, and Judd Trump Jack Lisowski & Shaun Murphy to name a few. It's just a nice way of knowing you're getting the correct 'helping side' and never getting the bad one.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one 👍🙂
@@BartonSnooker You're welcome mate.
I think comparing pros is the mistake as the guys you mentioned have smooth cue actions and very minimum deflection as do you with your nice cue action.
When you take a smooth cue action away you get that deflection but like you said agree to disagree it's all opinions.
Keep up the good work Steve :)
@@johnparkin5138 yeah, interesting topic, John.
I guess we all play a little differently and have to ultimately find our own style. What works for one, won't necessarily work for another as you say. So I like your advice on keeping things simple as things can become more tense and short in a match.
You're a tremendous player John so all the opinions and advice are welcomed. It's good to get the perspective of lots of different people, as we don't all read the game in the same way.
I'm always learning and listening to opinions. Just because I have mine, doesn't mean I'm set in stone correct 👍
@@BartonSnooker That's why we love our sport so many different ways to play , different cue actions and methods and when you meet different top players it's so interesting how different they all see the game.
Appreciate the compliment mate, I give lots of lessons and lots of them watch UA-cam videos and I always encourage them to watch yours as you seem very passionate about helping players which is nice to see and you've put fantastic content out there.
Doo you only use side when ur cue ball is quite close to the object ball
How come R.O’Sullivan doesn’t use much side hardly ever only if he runs out of position?
Ronnie uses side on every shot 👍
@@BartonSnooker I have seen a clip of his and he recommended no side if you can help it,I started playing side right from the start but iam consistent without it now🤔
@@johnetherington6801 Ronnie isn't great at explaining snooker. Just because you're a fantastic player, doesn't mean you'll be good at teaching things.
If you find an overhead video of Ronnie playing (UA-cam search), you will see he uses side on every shot (unless the pot is straight).
@@BartonSnooker will do cheers Steve👍
I am sharing what really helped me in making conistent pots, hope this helps you guys:
PHYSICAL :
1. Made my physical portion of the game strong i.e. Aiming while standing, walking in, cueing straight with/out spin.
2. Putting the chalk in my pocket rather than in table. As it messes up aim as I aim while i chalk the cue. I am assuming which most of us do.
3. While getting down, i look at the spot where i want to hit.
4. Accepted the fact that i am not a professional and understood that i cue differently for hard shots and soft shots as I pull my cue farther for hard shots and vice versa for soft shots.
MENTAL:
1. I predecide my chance if making the shot only then i attempt it. If its 90% + I aim only for potting, anything less i play with pot cum safety.
2. Whenever i think of playing with top and while i am in bent position I decide that maybe bottom might give me better position. I get up and aim again as i noticed i cue differently for top spin shots and bottom shot. Made my accuracy go up a lot.
3. And i always keep this in mind whenever i play. That oponent is as nervous as i am but he is just good at covering it. Gives me a sadistic confidence on my game. It's almost like you made your opponent an audience to your amazing game.