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I had some bad habits in my stroke a few years ago. I slowed my speed to 50 percent and concentrated on my stroke and a good follow through technique. Took 15 min. of practice to get it down. It's like a golf swing. Real smooth. I shoot better and more accurate now. All my strokes are well controlled at what ever speed I shoot.
I took some lessons from a man ranked in the top 100 Fargo ratings in the US (Brad Weast 735) and he taught me that the break shot is unlike any other shot in pool, that it's not just a hard power stroke. That it's more like a golf swing or bowling delivery, several body parts work together in coordination to deliver a successful hit. A slow controlled stand, loose relaxed wrist, elbow drop, low aim to compensate for the stand and elbow drop , and a few other elements will produce a solid break with a good "pop" that sits the cue ball right in the middle of the table.
When I am practicing breaking I always pattern rack the exact same way. That way I know what ball went where every time. I also frequently scuff my break cue tip, the forces involved really compact it.
Also, make sure whoever racks the balls is pushing them forward in the triangle so they’re nice and tight, otherwise you won’t get a decent, consistent break because the power will be absorbed and the balls won’t spread. It’s a cheeky tactic that people could use when playing casually in bars
One of my friends said it's all about the timing to get a good break and my other friend told me to go more slowly to get a better break and I've been following this advice and it's actually been helping. Because when I stroke faster for a good break I usually hit the rack bad and I tend to miscue and ruin my break cue tip
I learned to be steady with a solid break, but I never actually watched where the cue went…but I’m about to start watching for that now! I probably can reduce strength like you point out, as long as I focus on hitting center every time
I'm always breaking from the left side of the table. After watching this video, I'm going to start breaking from the center again and see if I can improve my break shots. Thanks for sharing!
I've also found out this recently and I even miss cue and ruined my tip. So my friend said it's all about the timing and just stroke slower to get a better break
In my league, your opponent racks for you and there's no template, so you rarely get a tight rack. I've found the best results when I hit a 60% cut break (8, 9, or 10-ball) and I tend to make a ball and get a good spread even when it's a bad rack.
@@JanaShute Same rules in my league, you can ask for a rerack if its an inch off the dot or has huge gaps, but otherwise everybody will think you're just being a fussy Karen, especially since most casual league players can't rack to save their lives and every rack will look like that. Totally absurd that templates are acceptable in pro tournaments but i'm stuck with some half drunk moron racking my balls with a 10 year old plastic rack from Dollar General.
Medium speed with follow through works best for me, especially in 9 ball. In 9 I break medium from the center, ninety percent of the time I make the wing ball in the corner, and the cue ball stays in the center of the table.
I watched this 2 days ago and have been trying it in an 8 ball rack, I took your advice and hit with less power and I'm having the balls disperse much, much better, although I have not sunk any on the break this way. thanks
I agree with all this. EXCEPT for 1 point. The primary reason for standing up isn't followthrough. Extra length on the followthrough might be a biproduct of what happens when you stand, but it's not the reason for it. more followthrough doesn't inherently mean more speed (cause it's timing dependent) as if what happens to your cuetip AFTER making contact with the cueball makes any difference. Humans are not designed to create dynamic, high speed forward motion with an isolated shoulder and elbow. Standing up allows for more mobility, clearance, leverage, and most importantly EFFICIENCY of movement. The more efficient you move, the less effort you need to strike the cueball with speed. Meanwhile, you need much more muscular contraction to swing the cue at the same speed while staying down. More effort = less accuracy. So theres a balance between these things as counterintuitive as it sounds. So YES, hit the ball softer for accuracy- but when the break REQUIRES more speed (regardless of where you place the cueball), staying down is not a great option unless you have a perfect stroke. It's a tradeoff, but worth it i you know how to move. Also, breaking with a template vs triangle is a huge reason to change speeds. So is asking what the GOAL of the break is. If you're playing 10 ball and need the 1 ball to come uptable more, a pop break with speed helps. If you need the 2nd row balls lower- speed helps. It's all about the goal. But yes, generally, don't put 100% into the break. 💪👊🧠
I agree with your statement on follow through. I was thinking about explaining it in detail, but on some things I don't want to confuse or scare people with too detailed information. But that's exactly why the comment section is a great place. Good points!
What is the one thing to hope for on your break? Where do you truly aim? Just to the side of the head ball- like aiming to the side of the head pin, in bowling? I hear that you answered that fairly close to the beginning.
I hate that players that rack for others are not meticulous about the racks. I have a friend I always play with that always criticizes my break but as I noticed, he was being pretty sloppy with the racks and when I mention it, it’ll become an argument. Its not that serious but always ruins my mood.
@@2DashD I guess it can go both ways. I just learned that some players break “soft” for the same reason, which is funny because I worked really hard to get to level crappy on my breaks 🙎🏻♀️
The most useful thing I take away from this video is this: "On an 8-ball break, make sure the cue ball doesn't hit a rail after the break." That right there will ensure you hit dead center accurate hit and also have good speed control so the cue ball doesn't skeeter-skatter all over the table. Will need to practice this.
I agree with all these except I always put the one ball in front 😅 every rotation style game has it in front and I've seen balls break in half before. If one of thems gonna break I'd rather know which one is most likely to break is my reasoning
8 ball does not require the one ball to be in front. For 10 ans 9 Ball yes you have to, but 8 ball no. Rarely do i ever put the one in front. Nothing to do with his reasoning, but because it's whatever ball i grab first goes to the top.
What do you think about those who, in 8-ball, break from the side and aim to hit a side of the triangle? I usually see people put the cue ball quite far back from the line and often very close to a side, then aiming to hit a side of the triangle rather than the front (at least on the online pool game I play). It seems like doing that helps in potting balls of the same kind vs the normal way where you may end up potting a solid and stripped ball.
That's called the 2nd ball break. I don't particularly use that one, as I don't like how the cue ball ends up, but it's whole purpose is to push the 8 towards the opposite side you break from. It's generally a pretty good break style and you can very much learn how to just screw your opponent over by purposely shooting at an angle you know won't make any balls, and put the cue ball in a terrible position. I just go for the slightly off center smash on the head ball. Almost always guaranteed to put in a wing ball, and chances for stuff in the side. But most importantly, very easy to keep the cue ball in the middle of the table.
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Just watched this today. Went to my local spot and took maybe 20% off my. Break power, and it worked. 1st rack I got 2 balls in and a great spread. 2nd rack no balls in but another great spread. Both racks I got my cueball to stay in the center. Imma pass this tip on
Also been trying to give Lil'Chris' pop break a try, and for keeping the cue ball in the center is working well. These 2 things combined should make my break way better.
I never knew standing up on the break was a problem so that's how I started breaking from the beginning. I line up first diamond from the left to the head ball diagonally and give it all I've got. Sometimes a dry break, sometimes 3 balls go in. If it's not working for me, I shift to the right an inch or two on the lineup still aiming at the head ball. If it works better there, I stick with it.
I started breaking with a hand bridge on table and then switched to off the rail. Cue ~halfway or little more between short rail and dot. Hand On top of rail making V, cue on table. Not extremely fast break but long smooth stroke
Not everyone has nor plays on a professional tabel. Based on cloth quality and where the balls sit during the rack (falling away), it can determine the "muscle" one must use in order to break.
The cue ball sees limited results from muscle. The speed of the cue tip is the deciding factor. A weak girl or a muscle man useing the same cue, get the same feet per second on the cue ball. Angle of hit on the head ball negated by left or right English keeps the cue ball center table. Just enough high English to cancel severe rack push back, one ball against the pack, will park the cue ball in a nine to twelve inch circle. Consistency is a must.
basically hard and accuracte > accurate > hard. the hardest you can hit whil maintaining precision is the best. also the white jumping off the table is an accuracy issue. if you are precise it will jump up mostlly but still land at the middle of the table
When you are able to break from the side when the 9 is on the spot, I put a little draw and a little outside, hitting the 1 square. I make the wing ball and 3 other balls race to the same corner every time! I really see no point in racking the 9 on the spot if not breaking from the box.
You can always buy a replacement 8,9, or 10 ball but never a replacement 1 ball online. I don’t understand why and when I brought it up with Predator they had no answers.
Hi! First off, I love watching your videos! Thank you! Secondly, I was just wondering in your 9 ball rack, why is the 9 ball lined up with the second diamond? I've always thought the 1 ball should be at position.
Thank you! Well, there are many different break rules in the game of 9 Ball. A couple of years ago many big promoters changed the way the balls are racked, by moving the nine instead of the one on the spot. The goal was to make the break more difficult. Depending on the country, league or tournament you're playing you will find many different rulesets: (Break box, three point rule, rack placement, sometimes even ball placement within the rack).
I remember how Paul Newman could hear the crack of Tom Cruise's break behind him in The Color of Money and was ljke, "That kid has one hell of a break". That influenced me.
Even Jeff De Luna stroked fast at first then he went closer to the cue tip by stroking slower which got him that amazing break for a 9 ball rack. So it truly is about the right timing. ua-cam.com/users/shortscjUs3YTxmqg?si=K7mWeqzp7Kt3IP6H
also for oyu hobby pool players. this makes it so you need an extra break cue even less. this works fine with a regular cue you are using to play anyway
So, when I watch Ultimate Pool for instance (reds and yellows) the commentators talk about the break going straight up and down the table, and a lot of players make the cue ball track all the way back to the short rail they're breaking from. Does it matter if you squat the rock in the middle of the table, or if it comes back all the way to the short rail and back out to center table? I'm just curious why different break styles seem to be desired for what almost feels like the same game.
Ultimate Pool is a bit different from American Pool. Since you have way more space on the 9ft pool table, and a different cue ball (larger, heavier), the majority of players try to park the cue ball at the center of the table without bringing the cue ball back to the short rail. The best example of this is shown at the beginning of this lesson: ua-cam.com/video/8aQrNTP_vfw/v-deo.html
@@Sharivari Thanks for giving me a bit more education on the differences. Very much appreciated. I'm still working on fine tuning my breaking style, so this helped a good bit.
I break really hard. Have been told it sounds like a gun. I say it is the cue ball breaking the sound barrier. Personally, I stand taller when I break. First, I find my line. I then find my contact spot on the cue ball. Put all of my concentration into that contact spot. Paying attention to form I give it hell. I hit a little bit of top english on the ball dead center of the rack and the cue ball drives through after the initial hit. It works well for me, so say what you want.
I've been shooting for over 30 years, including some professional events and I have NEVER seen a 9 ball rack done with the 9 ball centered on the dot. Also, I have seen a rack of balls that had a smaller ball in it and the only way to get a tight rack with that ball would be to put it on a corner so it only touched 2 balls, everywhere else in the rack it touches at least 4 balls
This new way of racking was introduced about 7-8 years ago, I think. The goal was to make the break more difficult, but players quickly figured out how to break that way. That's why now, in competitions, there are additional breaking rules like the 3-point rule or even a break box, which prevents you from placing the cue ball anywhere in the kitchen.
What I find ironic that many tell people to use a light stick because it will accelerate faster. Then say hit it 50-70% speed. Completely negating the argument to use a light stick in the first place. I on the other hand have less skilled players start with a heavier break stick at 50% speed and ACTUALLY aim when they break. Somehow I am the break whisperer. 50 years ago everyone used heavy breakers. If you paid attention in school you know that a good break is merely transferring the kinetic energy from stick to cue ball to rack. It has nothing to do with timing or any of the other nonsense just maximally transferring the energy from one object to another.
Timing absolutely matters if you're using your body to transfer energy into the rack, which many players do. It takes practice but is more effective than just shoving the cue into the cue ball and actually takes less effort. If you stand at a slight angle to the table and use hip rotation as your source of power, you can get a very good break by just using your arm to guide the cue.
@@procrastinator6902 Maximally transferring energy is the key. How long were people jumping in the air believing that it adds power? I get it people "feel" many things about how balls behave on a table and damn be the laws of physics. The laws of physics simply don't support anything other than the transition of kinetic energy from object to object. I understand there are many small chained movements that come together into of what people call "timing" but I have seen to many good breaks that don't follow prescription.
@@GarrethandPipa I'm not sure that it's so much the jump itself that was meant to add the power, but the necessity of doing so to maintain balance to get as upright as possible. Which WILL add power because your arm acts like a lever and the straighter you stand, the longer that lever is and provides more power. The timing of movement when using it is essential. The body can never move as fast the arm, so that's where timing comes in. The stand and hip rotation has to occur before the arm begins to move for it to be effective at delivering power to the hit. That's what I meant about timing being important.
Are you allowed to keep playing after the break in 8 ball or do you have to pot one? Seems kind of random if a ball goes in and leaving the cue ball in the middle of the table might give a great chance to the opponent Searching online for rules is so unhelpful. Seems like there are as many versions of the rules as there are balls on the table
Thanks for the advice. This is a sort of shot I need to work on, like dropping my elbow early, and raising my closed bridge hand simultaneously, resulting in a top miss cue. And sometimes causing my break cue to slip on my hand. Oh raising my feet slightly during a power break. I’ll try to mend this mistake soon.
so is it wise to keep breaking the the ball like jeffrey de luna so that you can send almost all the cue balls into the pockets? is this wise or smart or a good play to always do????
Its like golf,,the slower you hit it,the further it goes,,,it isnt,it just feels that way,because of timing,,the trick is,to feel like you,re keeping the white of golf ball in contact with the tip or club for as long as possible,,,giving the energy time to be imparted into the object ball,without it simply bouncing off.
Try it on a club table with old cloth, dirty balls, and no magic rack... without power the balls will barely split at all, they'll stay at one end of the table, all bunched up and covering each other.
I feel like I may not be on par, but wouldn't a smart pool player on break, not break the balls? Knowing they would have little control over the outcome, they could use the placement of the cue around the balls to a position, to render a less beneficial outcome for the opponent, having more control overall, by not creating chaos, but directing it, for a more likely outcome, chaos, neither players can ultimately control. It is a game of precision and wit, not a game of chaos.
Well, there are many different break rules in the game of 9 Ball. A couple of years ago many big promoters changed the way the balls are racked, by moving the nine instead of the one on the spot. The goal was to make the break more difficult. Depending on the country, league or tournament you're playing you will find many different rulesets: (Break box, three point rule, rack placement, sometimes even ball placement within the rack).
If you’re playing, 8-ball, on a bar box, you never break from anywhere in the ‘D’ ring. Place the cue ball as the demonstration @5:42. Use running English, with a firm, (not hard) stroke. The cue ball hits two rails, comes behind the 8-ball, making it in the opposite side pocket. I’ve done it up to 3 times-in-a-row, several times, over the years. I was president of our local league for 15 years. I was an instructor for 10. I helped organize and run all 6 State tournaments, in WV.
ooooooooooooooooooooooof! that first break injured my soul!!!!!!!!!!! lololololololololol i am guilty, i try to put all my arm strength into a fast break with not so consistent results. i will try this in league tonight and hope i don't lose any more matches like i have been in the past 11 weeks :P
Yes indeed. And I hit the side of the rack because I used too much power and added unintentional right spin, which made the cue ball deflect to the left.
@Sharivari if you were to go and compare your lineup on both breaks, as I did. You will see that on the break the cueball flew off the table that the back of your cue was a whole cue width farther to your right than on the softer break. Your lineup also made you shoot to the left side of the rack. You can tell from the angle of the stick. It's pointing directly where the cueball landed on the rack. On the softer break if you follow the line of the stick, it heads straight to the one ball.
You do realize that that we know that you used upper English on the break which causes the ball to fly off the table. Secondly, breaking is completely random. I have broke a rack and dropped 7 balls before. I have also dropped the cue ball on break by hitting the same area with trying to hit the in the same spot with the same English. There truly isn’t any real right or wrong way to break. The break is purely random. What you should be training on is individual shots like the infamous straight shot or riding the rail passes the side pocket without getting titted. Also you don’t want to leave the cut ball at the center only because if you miss you set up your opponent to run the rack.
But if you put a lot of glue on the chalk on your head, you can break insanity hard without the chalk falling off your head 😂😂😂😂 Good tip with the chalk btw 👌
This is not how you should break, halfway from the lime to the cushion and put it between your fingers with your palm down, even with max power you will struggle to not hit it straight
You are mistaken sir if you believe a longer follow through in and of itself will generate more power for the simple fact that when you hit the ball it comes off of the cue tip immediately and a longer follow through will not extend the time of contact. This has been proven by the use of super high speed videos. 😎
While your statement is correct, unfortunately the conclusion isn't. Watch this video and let me know what you think: ua-cam.com/video/VYjZp0fqbQM/v-deo.htmlsi=BnOHq5FjNOh1ddkV
And I suppose you also believe that a follow through on a golf shot is unnecessary. You know, because the struck golf ball immediately left the club face……..
I like to move it a bit further away from the rack line because there is an official rule that not many players know about. When you accidentally touch the cue ball and it rolls over the line, it's a foul. However, if you accidentally touch the cue ball but it doesn't cross the line, it's no foul. So I am just playing it safe.
@@toddaulner5393 it’s all about angle and precision. There are some great tutorials on UA-cam that show different spots for different racks. It’s a science now, like everything else.
you used right english and hit the left side of the 1 ball. of course you are going off the table. for more info on controlled break check out corey deuels work, but we all disagree with this. ask johnny archer let use in a fast 'controlled' break.
ok man I'm not even a min in and that first example was horrible If Im going to hit a break with force in no way ,shape , or form am I going to stand up lol or put down masse on the cue ball smh its like you tried to do the worst example possible most people who break with force do none of what you showed just the ones who really don't know anything
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I tried this yesterday and my breaks were a lot better. Great advice and video.
I had some bad habits in my stroke a few years ago. I slowed my speed to 50 percent and concentrated on my stroke and a good follow through technique. Took 15 min. of practice to get it down. It's like a golf swing. Real smooth. I shoot better and more accurate now. All my strokes are well controlled at what ever speed I shoot.
I took some lessons from a man ranked in the top 100 Fargo ratings in the US (Brad Weast 735) and he taught me that the break shot is unlike any other shot in pool, that it's not just a hard power stroke. That it's more like a golf swing or bowling delivery, several body parts work together in coordination to deliver a successful hit.
A slow controlled stand, loose relaxed wrist, elbow drop, low aim to compensate for the stand and elbow drop , and a few other elements will produce a solid break with a good "pop" that sits the cue ball right in the middle of the table.
The video on the pop break is already planned. You've summarzied many points that I will cover with your comment already. Good information!
@@Sharivari Can't wait for the video because I definitely need to get more consistent with mine!
When I am practicing breaking I always pattern rack the exact same way. That way I know what ball went where every time.
I also frequently scuff my break cue tip, the forces involved really compact it.
Also, make sure whoever racks the balls is pushing them forward in the triangle so they’re nice and tight, otherwise you won’t get a decent, consistent break because the power will be absorbed and the balls won’t spread. It’s a cheeky tactic that people could use when playing casually in bars
I’ll just rack my own break, I always make it tight for myself or others.
One of my friends said it's all about the timing to get a good break and my other friend told me to go more slowly to get a better break and I've been following this advice and it's actually been helping. Because when I stroke faster for a good break I usually hit the rack bad and I tend to miscue and ruin my break cue tip
If you're miscueing on the break, you're not even getting close to the center of the cueball. Definitely good advice to settle down a bit.
@@Strype13 yeah
I learned to be steady with a solid break, but I never actually watched where the cue went…but I’m about to start watching for that now! I probably can reduce strength like you point out, as long as I focus on hitting center every time
I'm always breaking from the left side of the table. After watching this video, I'm going to start breaking from the center again and see if I can improve my break shots. Thanks for sharing!
You got this!
I've always found the harder you stroke the easier it is to MISS.
I've also found out this recently and I even miss cue and ruined my tip. So my friend said it's all about the timing and just stroke slower to get a better break
This is true with most shots unless you have perfect precision. Pockets have a lot more tolerance with slower speed.
Its thing called pocket speed, the harder u hit the easier pockets spit balls out
@@joulupukki1607 seen that happen Saturday.
Velocity and accuracy are inversely proportional.
In my league, your opponent racks for you and there's no template, so you rarely get a tight rack. I've found the best results when I hit a 60% cut break (8, 9, or 10-ball) and I tend to make a ball and get a good spread even when it's a bad rack.
What?! I'm so surprised by this. Can you check it and contest it?
@@JanaShute Same rules in my league, you can ask for a rerack if its an inch off the dot or has huge gaps, but otherwise everybody will think you're just being a fussy Karen, especially since most casual league players can't rack to save their lives and every rack will look like that. Totally absurd that templates are acceptable in pro tournaments but i'm stuck with some half drunk moron racking my balls with a 10 year old plastic rack from Dollar General.
Medium speed with follow through works best for me, especially in 9 ball. In 9 I break medium from the center, ninety percent of the time I make the wing ball in the corner, and the cue ball stays in the center of the table.
I watched this 2 days ago and have been trying it in an 8 ball rack, I took your advice and hit with less power and I'm having the balls disperse much, much better, although I have not sunk any on the break this way. thanks
Awesome. Try to move the cue ball further to the either side.
I will do that.. thanks@@Sharivari
Sharivari, please make a video on how breaking like this is affected on different size tables especially using the cut break.
I agree with all this.
EXCEPT for 1 point. The primary reason for standing up isn't followthrough. Extra length on the followthrough might be a biproduct of what happens when you stand, but it's not the reason for it. more followthrough doesn't inherently mean more speed (cause it's timing dependent) as if what happens to your cuetip AFTER making contact with the cueball makes any difference. Humans are not designed to create dynamic, high speed forward motion with an isolated shoulder and elbow. Standing up allows for more mobility, clearance, leverage, and most importantly EFFICIENCY of movement. The more efficient you move, the less effort you need to strike the cueball with speed. Meanwhile, you need much more muscular contraction to swing the cue at the same speed while staying down. More effort = less accuracy. So theres a balance between these things as counterintuitive as it sounds.
So YES, hit the ball softer for accuracy- but when the break REQUIRES more speed (regardless of where you place the cueball), staying down is not a great option unless you have a perfect stroke. It's a tradeoff, but worth it i you know how to move.
Also, breaking with a template vs triangle is a huge reason to change speeds. So is asking what the GOAL of the break is. If you're playing 10 ball and need the 1 ball to come uptable more, a pop break with speed helps. If you need the 2nd row balls lower- speed helps. It's all about the goal. But yes, generally, don't put 100% into the break. 💪👊🧠
I agree with your statement on follow through. I was thinking about explaining it in detail, but on some things I don't want to confuse or scare people with too detailed information. But that's exactly why the comment section is a great place. Good points!
What is the one thing to hope for on your break?
Where do you truly aim? Just to the side of the head ball- like aiming to the side of the head pin, in bowling?
I hear that you answered that fairly close to the beginning.
@@patriciajrs46My main goal is to control the cue ball how I've intended. If the cue ball does the right thing, I knew I hit the rack right.
I hate that players that rack for others are not meticulous about the racks. I have a friend I always play with that always criticizes my break but as I noticed, he was being pretty sloppy with the racks and when I mention it, it’ll become an argument. Its not that serious but always ruins my mood.
Same here! It's not just me then! 😂😂
@@craighewitt223 yea so now I’m perfecting my “soft break” 🤭
People will give u a loose rack to help them win. Cheaters
@@2DashD I guess it can go both ways. I just learned that some players break “soft” for the same reason, which is funny because I worked really hard to get to level crappy on my breaks 🙎🏻♀️
Right!, that's why i say you rack when you break. Simple as that. No one will rack better than yourself. 😊
The most useful thing I take away from this video is this: "On an 8-ball break, make sure the cue ball doesn't hit a rail after the break."
That right there will ensure you hit dead center accurate hit and also have good speed control so the cue ball doesn't skeeter-skatter all over the table.
Will need to practice this.
I agree with all these except I always put the one ball in front 😅 every rotation style game has it in front and I've seen balls break in half before. If one of thems gonna break I'd rather know which one is most likely to break is my reasoning
8 ball does not require the one ball to be in front. For 10 ans 9 Ball yes you have to, but 8 ball no. Rarely do i ever put the one in front. Nothing to do with his reasoning, but because it's whatever ball i grab first goes to the top.
What do you think about those who, in 8-ball, break from the side and aim to hit a side of the triangle?
I usually see people put the cue ball quite far back from the line and often very close to a side, then aiming to hit a side of the triangle rather than the front (at least on the online pool game I play).
It seems like doing that helps in potting balls of the same kind vs the normal way where you may end up potting a solid and stripped ball.
That's called the 2nd ball break. I don't particularly use that one, as I don't like how the cue ball ends up, but it's whole purpose is to push the 8 towards the opposite side you break from. It's generally a pretty good break style and you can very much learn how to just screw your opponent over by purposely shooting at an angle you know won't make any balls, and put the cue ball in a terrible position. I just go for the slightly off center smash on the head ball. Almost always guaranteed to put in a wing ball, and chances for stuff in the side. But most importantly, very easy to keep the cue ball in the middle of the table.
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Just watched this today. Went to my local spot and took maybe 20% off my. Break power, and it worked. 1st rack I got 2 balls in and a great spread. 2nd rack no balls in but another great spread. Both racks I got my cueball to stay in the center. Imma pass this tip on
Also been trying to give Lil'Chris' pop break a try, and for keeping the cue ball in the center is working well. These 2 things combined should make my break way better.
can u give break pattern to make break more consitently? like one ball always pocketed
I never knew standing up on the break was a problem so that's how I started breaking from the beginning. I line up first diamond from the left to the head ball diagonally and give it all I've got. Sometimes a dry break, sometimes 3 balls go in. If it's not working for me, I shift to the right an inch or two on the lineup still aiming at the head ball. If it works better there, I stick with it.
excellent ball spread
I started breaking with a hand bridge on table and then switched to off the rail. Cue ~halfway or little more between short rail and dot. Hand On top of rail making V, cue on table. Not extremely fast break but long smooth stroke
Not everyone has nor plays on a professional tabel. Based on cloth quality and where the balls sit during the rack (falling away), it can determine the "muscle" one must use in order to break.
The cue ball sees limited results from muscle. The speed of the cue tip is the deciding factor. A weak girl or a muscle man useing the same cue, get the same feet per second on the cue ball. Angle of hit on the head ball negated by left or right English keeps the cue ball center table. Just enough high English to cancel severe rack push back, one ball against the pack, will park the cue ball in a nine to twelve inch circle. Consistency is a must.
True enough speed to control break but still great spread. Not bashing or too light either. Half tip below center.
basically
hard and accuracte > accurate > hard. the hardest you can hit whil maintaining precision is the best. also the white jumping off the table is an accuracy issue. if you are precise it will jump up mostlly but still land at the middle of the table
Exactly. Video on the pop break is coming soon!
Great video and information/demonstration/explanations. Thank you =]
When you are able to break from the side when the 9 is on the spot, I put a little draw and a little outside, hitting the 1 square. I make the wing ball and 3 other balls race to the same corner every time! I really see no point in racking the 9 on the spot if not breaking from the box.
even truer for 9 ball, thank you for explaining break position for 9
You can always buy a replacement 8,9, or 10 ball but never a replacement 1 ball online. I don’t understand why and when I brought it up with Predator they had no answers.
The one ball doesn’t shrink over time. 😂
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Hi! First off, I love watching your videos! Thank you! Secondly, I was just wondering in your 9 ball rack, why is the 9 ball lined up with the second diamond? I've always thought the 1 ball should be at position.
Thank you! Well, there are many different break rules in the game of 9 Ball. A couple of years ago many big promoters changed the way the balls are racked, by moving the nine instead of the one on the spot. The goal was to make the break more difficult. Depending on the country, league or tournament you're playing you will find many different rulesets: (Break box, three point rule, rack placement, sometimes even ball placement within the rack).
@Sharivari Oh, that's really interesting, I never knew! Thanks :D
Omg. This is different just for the sake of being different. No, no, no!
The 1 goes on the spot. PERIOD.
It's All About The Break Y'all ! !
I remember how Paul Newman could hear the crack of Tom Cruise's break behind him in The Color of Money and was ljke, "That kid has one hell of a break". That influenced me.
Even Jeff De Luna stroked fast at first then he went closer to the cue tip by stroking slower which got him that amazing break for a 9 ball rack. So it truly is about the right timing. ua-cam.com/users/shortscjUs3YTxmqg?si=K7mWeqzp7Kt3IP6H
jeffs break isnt controlled check corey deuel for more info.
also for oyu hobby pool players. this makes it so you need an extra break cue even less. this works fine with a regular cue you are using to play anyway
Why do some people hit the cue ball off a piece of fabric when breaking? Is this legal in tournament play?
It's done to not damage the cloth of the table. They also do it for jump shots. This is not common in tournaments (have never seen it).
@@Sharivari Thank you.
I break like that lol. I push my body up when I break the balls. I usually make 2-3 balls on the break.
So, when I watch Ultimate Pool for instance (reds and yellows) the commentators talk about the break going straight up and down the table, and a lot of players make the cue ball track all the way back to the short rail they're breaking from. Does it matter if you squat the rock in the middle of the table, or if it comes back all the way to the short rail and back out to center table? I'm just curious why different break styles seem to be desired for what almost feels like the same game.
Ultimate Pool is a bit different from American Pool. Since you have way more space on the 9ft pool table, and a different cue ball (larger, heavier), the majority of players try to park the cue ball at the center of the table without bringing the cue ball back to the short rail. The best example of this is shown at the beginning of this lesson: ua-cam.com/video/8aQrNTP_vfw/v-deo.html
@@Sharivari Thanks for giving me a bit more education on the differences. Very much appreciated. I'm still working on fine tuning my breaking style, so this helped a good bit.
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I break really hard. Have been told it sounds like a gun. I say it is the cue ball breaking the sound barrier. Personally, I stand taller when I break. First, I find my line. I then find my contact spot on the cue ball. Put all of my concentration into that contact spot. Paying attention to form I give it hell. I hit a little bit of top english on the ball dead center of the rack and the cue ball drives through after the initial hit. It works well for me, so say what you want.
yep nailed it
I've been shooting for over 30 years, including some professional events and I have NEVER seen a 9 ball rack done with the 9 ball centered on the dot. Also, I have seen a rack of balls that had a smaller ball in it and the only way to get a tight rack with that ball would be to put it on a corner so it only touched 2 balls, everywhere else in the rack it touches at least 4 balls
This new way of racking was introduced about 7-8 years ago, I think. The goal was to make the break more difficult, but players quickly figured out how to break that way. That's why now, in competitions, there are additional breaking rules like the 3-point rule or even a break box, which prevents you from placing the cue ball anywhere in the kitchen.
nice video Corey Duel have video no body movement break
What I find ironic that many tell people to use a light stick because it will accelerate faster. Then say hit it 50-70% speed. Completely negating the argument to use a light stick in the first place. I on the other hand have less skilled players start with a heavier break stick at 50% speed and ACTUALLY aim when they break. Somehow I am the break whisperer. 50 years ago everyone used heavy breakers. If you paid attention in school you know that a good break is merely transferring the kinetic energy from stick to cue ball to rack. It has nothing to do with timing or any of the other nonsense just maximally transferring the energy from one object to another.
Timing absolutely matters if you're using your body to transfer energy into the rack, which many players do. It takes practice but is more effective than just shoving the cue into the cue ball and actually takes less effort. If you stand at a slight angle to the table and use hip rotation as your source of power, you can get a very good break by just using your arm to guide the cue.
@@procrastinator6902 Maximally transferring energy is the key. How long were people jumping in the air believing that it adds power? I get it people "feel" many things about how balls behave on a table and damn be the laws of physics. The laws of physics simply don't support anything other than the transition of kinetic energy from object to object. I understand there are many small chained movements that come together into of what people call "timing" but I have seen to many good breaks that don't follow prescription.
@@GarrethandPipa I'm not sure that it's so much the jump itself that was meant to add the power, but the necessity of doing so to maintain balance to get as upright as possible. Which WILL add power because your arm acts like a lever and the straighter you stand, the longer that lever is and provides more power. The timing of movement when using it is essential. The body can never move as fast the arm, so that's where timing comes in. The stand and hip rotation has to occur before the arm begins to move for it to be effective at delivering power to the hit. That's what I meant about timing being important.
But what can you say with Bustamante's powerful break?
Are you allowed to keep playing after the break in 8 ball or do you have to pot one? Seems kind of random if a ball goes in and leaving the cue ball in the middle of the table might give a great chance to the opponent
Searching online for rules is so unhelpful. Seems like there are as many versions of the rules as there are balls on the table
You need to pot one to continue.
Thanks for the advice. This is a sort of shot I need to work on, like dropping my elbow early, and raising my closed bridge hand simultaneously, resulting in a top miss cue. And sometimes causing my break cue to slip on my hand. Oh raising my feet slightly during a power break. I’ll try to mend this mistake soon.
Thanks dude. These are giod tips i can use to improve my 8 ball pool game
What tip do you use in your game?
KAMUI Brown Medium on my playing cue, and KAMUI Sai on my break cue.
so is it wise to keep breaking the the ball like jeffrey de luna so that you can send almost all the cue balls into the pockets?
is this wise or smart or a good play to always do????
like if i do this and i keep having the minimum balls each time wouldent this be good for me?
Its like golf,,the slower you hit it,the further it goes,,,it isnt,it just feels that way,because of timing,,the trick is,to feel like you,re keeping the white of golf ball in contact with the tip or club for as long as possible,,,giving the energy time to be imparted into the object ball,without it simply bouncing off.
So basically dont swing harder than you can control?
That's the key message. Will do another video on the proper technique and cue balls reaction if you're going for the hard pop break.
I see you have a dart board! Any good at that?
Used to be as a teenager. You play?
Just break from a standing position so you get the additional power and you dont have to worry about jumping up.
You hit the side of the pack!
@sharivari could I get up with you and discuss something I've discovered with breaking, and see what your opinion on it is.
This is what I always tell people, precision beats power
Try it on a club table with old cloth, dirty balls, and no magic rack... without power the balls will barely split at all, they'll stay at one end of the table, all bunched up and covering each other.
Big reason people don't use one ball in front. Especially when raking for other players. Is that its a bright colored ball easy for people to see
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That hair is such a cheat code on the chalk on the head drill 😂
haha, you're right 😂😂
SVB has the best break.
I feel like I may not be on par, but wouldn't a smart pool player on break, not break the balls? Knowing they would have little control over the outcome, they could use the placement of the cue around the balls to a position, to render a less beneficial outcome for the opponent, having more control overall, by not creating chaos, but directing it, for a more likely outcome, chaos, neither players can ultimately control. It is a game of precision and wit, not a game of chaos.
Is that were the 9 ball rack is suppose to be, Two balls ahead of the dot? I thought every game the head ball goes in the dot!
Well, there are many different break rules in the game of 9 Ball. A couple of years ago many big promoters changed the way the balls are racked, by moving the nine instead of the one on the spot. The goal was to make the break more difficult. Depending on the country, league or tournament you're playing you will find many different rulesets: (Break box, three point rule, rack placement, sometimes even ball placement within the rack).
If you’re playing, 8-ball, on a bar box, you never break from anywhere in the ‘D’ ring.
Place the cue ball as the demonstration @5:42. Use running English, with a firm, (not hard) stroke. The cue ball hits two rails, comes behind the 8-ball, making it in the opposite side pocket. I’ve done it up to 3 times-in-a-row, several times, over the years.
I was president of our local league for 15 years. I was an instructor for 10. I helped organize and run all 6 State tournaments, in WV.
Would have loved to see that first break if you hit first ball head on instead of the second ball off the side.....:)
Should have shown that, dammit.
All great points but I'm coming out of my shoes on every break and I'm not going to stop.
ooooooooooooooooooooooof! that first break injured my soul!!!!!!!!!!! lololololololololol
i am guilty, i try to put all my arm strength into a fast break with not so consistent results. i will try this in league tonight and hope i don't lose any more matches like i have been in the past 11 weeks :P
Can we get a what’s in the bag for your new sponsor?
Yes, will come soon :)
I don’t believe that the one ball gets smaller over time. I’m going to require some evidence before I swallow that one.
How is his name pronounced? Is it Sha-re-vary?
Yes indeed.
Let’s not forget you’re breaking on a worsted felt, it’s going to have a better spread than your traditional ole bar room green tables.
You hit the rack from the side. That's why the ball went off the table.
Yes indeed. And I hit the side of the rack because I used too much power and added unintentional right spin, which made the cue ball deflect to the left.
@Sharivari if you were to go and compare your lineup on both breaks, as I did. You will see that on the break the cueball flew off the table that the back of your cue was a whole cue width farther to your right than on the softer break. Your lineup also made you shoot to the left side of the rack. You can tell from the angle of the stick. It's pointing directly where the cueball landed on the rack. On the softer break if you follow the line of the stick, it heads straight to the one ball.
You do realize that that we know that you used upper English on the break which causes the ball to fly off the table. Secondly, breaking is completely random. I have broke a rack and dropped 7 balls before. I have also dropped the cue ball on break by hitting the same area with trying to hit the in the same spot with the same English. There truly isn’t any real right or wrong way to break. The break is purely random. What you should be training on is individual shots like the infamous straight shot or riding the rail passes the side pocket without getting titted. Also you don’t want to leave the cut ball at the center only because if you miss you set up your opponent to run the rack.
But this 9ball break was illegal, wasn't it? 1 ball crossed the line and 1 ball went in,
Depends on the rules you're using.
But if you put a lot of glue on the chalk on your head, you can break insanity hard without the chalk falling off your head 😂😂😂😂
Good tip with the chalk btw 👌
Illegal brake on 5:50
Maybe in your league. I assume you're using the three point rule? This rule isn't used very often, not even in professional events anymore.
This is not how you should break, halfway from the lime to the cushion and put it between your fingers with your palm down, even with max power you will struggle to not hit it straight
the 1st brake shot did not hit the head ball and is a foul in some 8ball games
I have no clue how to play this game but it looks interesting, lol.
Haha, it really is :D
My issue is a power break but usually nothing falls 😂
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You are mistaken sir if you believe a longer follow through in and of itself will generate more power for the simple fact that when you hit the ball it comes off of the cue tip immediately and a longer follow through will not extend the time of contact. This has been proven by the use of super high speed videos. 😎
While your statement is correct, unfortunately the conclusion isn't. Watch this video and let me know what you think: ua-cam.com/video/VYjZp0fqbQM/v-deo.htmlsi=BnOHq5FjNOh1ddkV
And I suppose you also believe that a follow through on a golf shot is unnecessary. You know, because the struck golf ball immediately left the club face……..
Why is it not racked on the line? Seems your to far up?
I like to move it a bit further away from the rack line because there is an official rule that not many players know about. When you accidentally touch the cue ball and it rolls over the line, it's a foul. However, if you accidentally touch the cue ball but it doesn't cross the line, it's no foul. So I am just playing it safe.
I don't like this. I never shot the ball off the table breaking hard. And the cue is in the wrong spot.
I sink at least 1 most of the time
you almost made a hole on the wall like Florian lol
You aren’t supposed to break hard? Clearly you’ve never seen the Color of Money.
Probably because with new equipment avaible nowadays you don't need power that much anymore, just precision
It was a joke. Corey Duel yield consistent results without smashing the rack.
Some pros do. I am going to slow down mine and see if I get more balls to fall.
@@toddaulner5393 it’s all about angle and precision. There are some great tutorials on UA-cam that show different spots for different racks. It’s a science now, like everything else.
I need to work on my follow-through and not stand up during breaks.
Most important thing in a break is to make the 8 ball. That requires spin spin, we lose a lot of power with that spin so a harder hit is a must.
I need a teacher
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The template racks make it easier to break at low speeds. Most tournaments I play use a regular rack which is harder to get all balls tight.
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you used right english and hit the left side of the 1 ball. of course you are going off the table. for more info on controlled break check out corey deuels work, but we all disagree with this. ask johnny archer let use in a fast 'controlled' break.
ok man I'm not even a min in and that first example was horrible If Im going to hit a break with force in no way ,shape , or form am I going to stand up lol or put down masse on the cue ball smh its like you tried to do the worst example possible most people who break with force do none of what you showed just the ones who really don't know anything