The big three of 2018: One of us will win the championship! Joey Logano: HiPpItTy HoPpItTy ThE cHaMpIoNsHiP iS nOw My PrOpErTy Edit: At 11:52, I was thinking of when S1ap Shoes said "Spoiler Alert: He won the damn war."
You mean, win it the right way by earning it? ...yeah it would of looked like the 1992 season all over again but we will never know with this format we have now...
Between them, 20 wins, 65 top-5, 78 top-10s, 12 poles, 3475 laps led, average finish right around 9th. Ridiculous numbers for this era (probably the best since Busch, Edwards & Johnson in 2008). And still, none of them won the damn war...
8:08 "The post race celebration for the win was a touching moment." Ross Chastain at Pocono 1 year later: I will top that. Seriously Why does No one talk about that celebration? That was the GREATEST celebrations I have ever seen (Way better than this and Chase Elliot's burnout). He brings a watermelon beach ball and STARTS PLAYING WITH THE FANS! What makes this the greatest celebration ever is because A: It has more than 1 person in it and B: All ages were doing this and not just kids. Adults want to have great celebration moments.
This is definitely my favorite season of the last decade. Total opposite of 2017 where Truex dominated singlehandedly. This time there was actually real competition. In the spring I skipped my college physics class (only time ive ever skipped class) to finish watching Bowyer win at Martinsville because that was more exciting than stuff I'd already learned in high school. In the summer I got to go to the second best Sonoma race I've ever been to (nothing tops my all time favorite driver getting his final win in 2016, although Pearn's pit road bluff was the best strategy play I've ever seen), and in the fall the best Phoenix race I've ever been to (where according to my friends who were watching, I apparently dabbed on live tv). And to top it off a girl I really really liked invited herself over to my dorm to watch Homestead with me and I remember her being so startled when I suddenly jumped up in excitement when my guy Larson slipped past Harvick to win Stage 2 because she thought I was kidding when I told her I really enjoy NASCAR. That was all before I began to experience why engineering is such a difficult major. Life was so simple back then...
Honestly, I enjoyed seeing Logano steal the title from the Big 3 simply because I was fed up with hearing about them all the time. The fact that it also exposed how broken the points system is was just icing on the cake for me.
@@zcams You're missing my point. The way NASCAR media wouldn't shut up about The Big 3 for most of season made it get stale. On principle, I agree Logano was less deserving, but the way The Big 3 was hyped up ad nauseam made them being upstaged feel cathartic. When I'm less entertained by the thought of a tight championship battle by three talented drivers than I am from a guy spoiling the party by exploiting a ridiculous points format, then there is a problem.
@ZeusCannonBen I didn't follow in 2018 so idk how bad it really was, but it probably woulda been less annoying if "The Big Three" was an actual intense season long battle instead of everyone knowing the points are just gonna be reset
Missing Rings: Martin Truex Jr. 2015-2016 and 2019, Kevin Harvick 2016 (under 2003 points, he would've been champion), Matt Kenseth 2006 and 2011, Kyle Busch 2013 and 2016, Joey Logano 2014 and 2016, Jimmie Johnson 2012, Dale Jarrett 1997.
Scuderia Kasey Dixon Matt Kenseth 2006 and Jimmie Johnson 2012 are coming soon (Iceberg announced it after a poll) but I think Harvick in 2016, Kyle Busch in 2016 would be interesting seasons for discussion.
I mean while I agree one of the other three was deserving, Joey only wasn't comparable stats wise in wins. He was close in everything else. However, here is my idea. Can we go back to the pre-2004 format. Nascar changed this to the chase all because Kenseth won with 2 wins, versus Newman who had like 6-8 I think. But Newman also had a ton of DNF that year. Imho, I'd rather we let the season play out and whoever clinches in whatever race deserves it. Winning should matter for sure, but overall consistency should to. That's what JJ did so well. He won but was consistent. The chase has screwed drivers out of titles. Like I think Jeff would have 7, Harvick would have a couple more, guys like Edwards would have one. Formula 1 and Indycar have no playoffs and are just fine in crowning a champion.
Inside Line I think a solution to that is making wins worth much more in points than 2nd or anything. That way consistency is still rewarded but winning is the biggest factor.
@@seanmurray6026 I would have the 2004 points format that added 5 points to the winner's score but keep the winston championship format. If we are forced to keep the playoffs instead, at least give them the playoff points like the previous rounds and give points like the other races, because this "winner takes all" thing is bs.
I agree with the word “Playoffs” not exactly being a word that should be used in motorsports. I do think it’s a better idea to have a format that encourages winning and also consistency, kind of like a mix of the current format and the old Chase format. Something that rewards consistency and winning, but also slowly knocking out drivers who can’t capitalize on the opportunity they have
@@crouchb15 that's what I was gonna say. A good mix would be to drop the win and you're in, maybe just have the wins equal the highest amount of points. If you're consistent and ahead, have a lot of wins already, it rewards. If you have fewer wins, sure you boost up a bit but it won't throw you into the next round. Gotta be dominant. Maybe that idea of an old points system still combined with elimination would be a great blend of both.
More like the big FOUR! My no. 31 Lowes Chevrolet was so fast that the cameras couldn't pick up my awesome velocity! Only a driver with the 1995 NASCAR SuperTruck Series Inaugural Champion can achieve this feat! I drove the Lowes Chevrolet before it was cool, and now Lowes left Jimmie to sponsor me just like the good ol days!
Except NASCAR rigged the race with the phantom caution. I respect Truex for actually being a hard working racer who wants to win based on skill and NOT wrecking people.
I was at that Martinsville race where Joey Logano put the ole bump and run on MTJ. I loved it, and felt right there that he shouldn't be underestimated going into the finale
@The Iceberg, I would like to suggest a video: Richard Petty's 27-win season in 1967. I don't think EVER again will we see one driver absolutely dominate one season than Petty did in '67. We want to talk about the Big 3's run of dominance of Busch, Harvick, and Truex Jr in 2018, or the Big 3 of Busch, Edwards, and Johnson's run in 2008, but Petty won more races by himself in 1967 than all three drivers did in those two years together.
Funny enough this was my first season of NASCAR I watched. I started watching it when the playoffs started so i missed the big 3 build. But I've been hooked ever since
Iceberg, 2008 had an big 3 too. Edwards 9, Johnson 8 and Ky. Busch 7 wins computes for 2/3 of the season in wins between those 3. Two of them were on a fight for the championship all the way to Homestead. I think that could be a good video for you.
I don't understand how NASCAR could throw a totally fine points system they have for 3 decades in the trash. 2003 wasn't the first time someone won the title based on pure consistency. It's like they don't see all of the great championship finales Formula 1 and Indycar have had in the past 15 years running a points system that makes every race count the same lol.
Your videos are awesome. Keep at it man. Been binging them for the past week. You’ve got interesting video ideas and you follow through on the title with a quality video.
Another awesome video. You've done what if videos for the playoffs, but if you're up to it, I'd like to see some what if's for playoff and chase seasons WITHOUT a points reset. Straight points season, 40 for the winner, 1 for last place, 36 races. Just to switch things up a bit.
I loved this result because Logano really deserved to have a Championship. And i got really sick and tired of hearing all the time about the big three. That's why for example i loved the fact that Suarez won Xfinity Championships because he was an outsider and that's the point of the current system, giving everyone of the 4 a real chance of winning the championship.
I do think he deserves a championship but not the way he got it truex worked on him for many laps and it all got thrown away cause of a bump in the last corner idk bout you but I'd be pissed as hell if I raced someone as clean as truex did the just get bumped out of the way I prolly would have wrecked joey at homestead if that was me
God this season, mostly that year was hard for me. Mostly as a Johnson fan it was hell, especially at the Roval. But I have to admit the big 3 gave a good show and Logan’s stealing that championship made it even better. The Homestead race was also amazing with that pass on Truex from Logano.
People take issue with the playoff format, but as far as I am concerned, its the craziest, most interesting thing to watch. It separates the men from the boys, in a sense. Yes, Crafton got the win this past year without winning all year, but that's the magic of the playoffs. Anything can and will happen. You could have the best season of your career, like Busch, Truex Jr, and Harvick did in 2018, but if you can't close the deal and get the job done by winning the championship, then it matters not. You have to be on your A-game EVERY week, and you know those tier lists with that "S" tier? Yeah, you gotta be on THAT level for the playoffs. Playoffs or not, it works the same way.
The fact that you have to make a video on the missing rings of THREE DRIVERS that dominated the season is really sad. Goes to show even further how broken this format is.
TheCasual_Gamer been saying it since 2004... but they should have scrapped it after 2007 when Gordon was robbed in broad daylight because Johnson even getting in 2nd in points he would have been too far behind!
I mean yeah, everyone was fine because "Oh at least Kyle Busch lost," but that isn't exactly my point. My point is these guys won 20/36 races combined and yet they didn't win because of the way the format is set up.
its a system that was designed to promote entertainment, not legitimacy. There shouldn’t be a surprise NASCAR is associated with the term “WWE on wheels”
I honestly think NASCAR has managed to do better with this playoff format. Sure, it isn't always the case that the best driver and team go on to win it all, but please bear with me: Joey Logano won the 2018 title because he was there when it counted the most. Sure, the 1 win all regular season at Talladega really puts you down compared to the 3 guys that have outright dominated the season so far, but Logano managed to keep his consistency up in the first two rounds, and went to victory lane at Martinsville when it mattered in the third round, and when he had to finish better than the Big 3 a Homestead, that's what he did. He brought a better car to the track than the Big 3, and he had a better strategy than the Big 3, and that's why he won. Also, think about this: Let's throw the playoffs away in a sport like the NFL. Guess which team wins the Lombardi trophy in 2007 with 16 wins to their name? I don't think anyone outside of New England would like hearing that. To add on, in NASCAR, Jeff Gordon won 4 championships in 7 years under a format with no playoffs, and fans would boo him because he won all the time. Jimmie Johnson won 5 titles in a row with a format that was basically a 10-race regular season. Compare those to one of today's drivers who win all the time, Kyle Busch. He's won 2 titles under the playoff format. What will fans do if a driver like Martin Truex Jr, Alex Bowman, Ryan Blaney, or William Byron go on to win 3 championships in a row? They would be booed, but they aren't in real life because they don't win as much as guys like Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and Joey Logano (except for Truex, he wins a lot too). The look of what I see in a NASCAR fan is confusing and kinda strange, too. But the product NASCAR puts out is the most important thing in the end. Thanks for bearing with me.
Expanding on Fj Fj's point, the circumstances of football don't change game-to-game like they do in stock car racing does by going to an entirely new track every week. With the current system, a driver could theoretically perform "so so" throughout the year and win one race to get them into the "playoffs". From then they can just continue to race mid-pack until they get to one track they feel good at. The problem with this system is that it doesn't encourage drivers to be better than most. It encourages them to be "good enough", which is the wrong way to crown a champion.
The funny part is that the "4th place guy" in the 2018 regular season points in *all 3 series* won their playoff championships (Which is funny because in a real points format, Tyler Reddick would have finished 6th in Xfinity points in 2018 instead of winning the title)... 2018 proved the playoff format in it's entirety, even going back to the days where it was initially called "The Chase," is a total joke & *not* for auto racing. How they have not changed it back by now I don't know... ... Like, when David Land is doing a video on that, & it features both me & KamikazeGames, you *_know_* NASCAR messed up! XD
This was honestly the season that made me a Logano fan. I know he’s in no way likeable, but to win the championship in that season, against that opposition, in that form. That’s a real good racer
Joey Logano's Martinsville Win & Championship will forever be The Overall Conclusion of The Jeff Gordon/Clint Bowyer Saga in 2012 & The Matt Kenseth/Joey Logano Saga in 2015 because Logano (Driving the 20 Toyota Camry for Joe Gibbs Racing with Dollar General as the sponsor) was the driver wiped out in Gordon's retaliation against Bowyer in The Infamous Phoenix Race which Foreshadowed Kenseth kamikazing Logano into the Turn 1 Wall at Martinsville (The Very Same Track & Very Same Corner that sparked The Gordon/Bowyer Saga resulting in The Infamous Phoenix Race 7 Months Later) as retaliation for the Kansas race 2 weeks prior resulting in Gordon's 93rd & Final Career Win.
@@Michael29Shell Exactly. It's like some races. Just because you have a rocketship of a race car doesn't automatically mean you win. Every champion is a rightful champion
Had help with a phantom caution. I can't wait until Joey has a wreck like Kyle and Denny is 2015/13. I almost added Newman, but that's a little (JUST a LITTLE) extreme. I have his autograph but he's still a bucktoothed prick.
Believe it or not 2018 was the first time Kyle Busch won the most races in a season (8, tied with Harvick.) Harvick could have had a lot more, there were several races he lost despite having the lights out fastest car. Busch meanwhile won some races he probably shouldn't have, for example he was a 10th place car all day at Chicagoland. Harvick off the top of my head choked away Michigan 1, Texas 1 (a race that Kyle Busch eventually won), and got completely snookered on strategy at Sonoma when it was going to be a dogfight between himself and Truex. Also had race winning speed at Auto Club and was probably the only guy who could have had anything for Busch at Charlotte. Yes they both won the same amount of races, Harvick on average had a lot faster cars though.
I just want to have a style where instead of people being eliminated it's as if the season simply resets between the top 16 drivers where only the playoff points are there to start off as your bonuses.
Isn’t Kyle Busch technically the next intimidator he wrecks people sometimes for no reason always a championship contender a lot of people hate him because he wrecked there favorite driver
The last caution sealed Truex's fate. Truex had a long run car, Logano had the short run car. As the laps were going before that last caution, Harvick was leading the 4 but Truex was going to pass him within a few laps. Logano's car had already fallen off, and Kyle was a non-factor the whole race. That last caution cost Truex the championship.
As a Harvick fan, was sad to see this season not end in a Championship for Kevin. This was like Gordon and Mark Martin but if neither won the championship
Kyle busch is the real champion in the old points system ahead of him his future teammate martin truex jr. By 54 points if he do he will be 2-time nascar monster energy cup series champion but in the new points system joey logano wins the championship in 2018 it makes many wonder what if the big 3 they passed joey logano then they pulled away then joey logano they can't chasing them or maybe kyle busch he is the strong car until the last lap at homestead
The 12 car chase was the most valid for the most part, but the 16 car chase is joke, 2015 Champion should've been Harvick, 2016 any Gibbs driver, 2018 shouldve been the big 3 obviously and 2019 shouldve been the 11 or 19
Missing Rings Dale Earnhardt 1995 Going for a record breaking 8th championship and record tying 3rd in a row, Dale Earnhardt put on a stellar performance, scoring 5 wins, 19 top fives, and 23 top tens. However, a slight inconsistent summer stretch cost him the title to none other than Wonder Boy Jeff Gordon, who lit the sport ablaze in his breakout season. Dale lost by just 34 points.
2008 vs. 2018 both had big 3's 2008 had 24 wins Johnson 7, Edwards 9, and Busch 8 2018 had 20 wins Truex Jr. 4, Harvick 8, and Busch 8 2008 had a big 3 champion Jimmie Johnson 2008 had the other championship contender with Joey Logano winning the championship what a heart breaking ending to there seasons with so many wins and no championship
Logano is such a dirty driver. Shouldve never been in the top 4 if it wasnt for him shoving truex out of the way in martinsville. Still salty about that
Until the bristol race, and the daytona 500 that season, looking at the 2024 schedule LITERALLY all their wins line up EXACTLY With the 2024 schedule lmao imagine not harvick hut like truex busch and ig hyron do what these guys did by winning pretty much all of the first race's
2018 in my opinion was not a bad season. I think when you got 3 of the most hated drivers in the sport dominating (me personally have nothing against them) its gonna lead to fans calling the season garbage because a lot of fans out there are biased. Had this been chase Elliott, Ryan blaney and bubba Wallace that were the dominant guys then people would've been calling this the best season ever. People don't pay attention to the actual on track racing. Did it start off kinda lackluster? Yes without a doubt but it got better as the year went on. Especially when NBC took over for the rest of the season. Fans complained about the driver's that were winning and guess what....? We got a crappy aero package with reduced horsepower. Maybe paying attention to the on track product and judging the season by that instead of how you feel about drivers should be the way to go. It's a classic case of "you never know what you got until its gone".
Two things:
1: Joey said yoink.
2: Imagine if none of the three made the final four. All of that build up from the season gone like that lol.
edgy_boiii nascar would’ve cancelled the championship if that happened 😂😂
Ha
Would’ve been like last years NHL season with the Tampa Bay Lightning
Okay "angry sim racer"
MTJ: NO YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD A SHORT RUN CAR AND ASSUME A CAUTION WILL TAKE PLACE!
Logano: Ha ha ha Ford Fusion go brrrrrrrr!
Big Three: dominates entire season Joey Logano: Im gonna stop you right there
thats why chase and playoff formats are bullshit
dsfsfds dsfsdfsd blame that on the manager
@@terskatti4994 Yup, same reason I don't consider Stewart a true 3 time or Johnson a true 7 time. They have turned the whole series into a gimmick
Joey Logano: "I’m about to end these men's whole career”
Fuck logano
The big three of 2018: One of us will win the championship!
Joey Logano: HiPpItTy HoPpItTy ThE cHaMpIoNsHiP iS nOw My PrOpErTy
Edit: At 11:52, I was thinking of when S1ap Shoes said "Spoiler Alert: He won the damn war."
Random Reviews me to
I was thinking the exact same thing
Same
Same here
me too
Can you imagine how good of a championship battle this would have been had this have been in the old Winston points format?
You mean, win it the right way by earning it? ...yeah it would of looked like the 1992 season all over again but we will never know with this format we have now...
@@carrsllccarrillo6507 thats why i dont watch nascar anymore, playoff and chase formats are stupid
CarrsLLC Carrillo keep crying about the format. Everyone races under the same format. Smoke has some words for people like you 😂😂
@@luisrosales9349 its obvious you only know today's format and not much else
@@luisrosales9349 comic industry is ruined btw!
Truex: I’m finally gonna win a short track
Logano: no
Logano needs his ass beat
@@kolbycheeseracing2949 indeed
😂😂😂 gotta catch him to beat his ass
@Thomas Apple we'll talk whenever chase wins a championship, if he ever does I highly doubt it
@Thomas Apple bro your an idiot.... Logano already has a championship win !!!! When did you start watching Nascar , yesterday ????
Between them, 20 wins, 65 top-5, 78 top-10s, 12 poles, 3475 laps led, average finish right around 9th. Ridiculous numbers for this era (probably the best since Busch, Edwards & Johnson in 2008).
And still, none of them won the damn war...
Possibly the most legendary single season trio since Kulwicki, Elliott, and Allison in '92.
@Evan Ducati Of course, how could I have forgotten?!
Sprague Hornaday and Skinner in 1996
Johnson, Edwards and Kyle Busch in 2008 is the only other that comes to mind.
8:08 "The post race celebration for the win was a touching moment."
Ross Chastain at Pocono 1 year later: I will top that.
Seriously Why does No one talk about that celebration? That was the GREATEST celebrations I have ever seen (Way better than this and Chase Elliot's burnout). He brings a watermelon beach ball and STARTS PLAYING WITH THE FANS! What makes this the greatest celebration ever is because A: It has more than 1 person in it and B: All ages were doing this and not just kids. Adults want to have great celebration moments.
Thats just wrong, ross and his watermelons doesnt even come close to this
@@kerbal1851 I wasn't talking about the watermelon smash
Daniel Nuteson didn’t say you were, i said compared to what Kevin did it sucked
So true!!!
I was at that Michigan race. It was boring except for that part
I remember seeing Harvick dominating a majority of the races of that season. It was bonkers
And he’s doing it again smh
@@nascargamer1999 haha harvick didnt make it tho
Missing rings: Timmy Hill, 1 billion BC or however many year there have been-2020
Imagine if he had a premier ride.
aaronkristofer18 tons of championships. Like 100 at least
@@NikolaiPCulp Maybe not a championship but maybe 4 or 5 wins. :D I'd give him, like, Sterling Marlin level success.
One billion bc never happened the earth is only 6024 years old
“Stage Winner, MTJ”
"A driver never content with being outdone"
That has to be the nicest thing anyone has said about Kyle Busch.
This is definitely my favorite season of the last decade. Total opposite of 2017 where Truex dominated singlehandedly. This time there was actually real competition. In the spring I skipped my college physics class (only time ive ever skipped class) to finish watching Bowyer win at Martinsville because that was more exciting than stuff I'd already learned in high school. In the summer I got to go to the second best Sonoma race I've ever been to (nothing tops my all time favorite driver getting his final win in 2016, although Pearn's pit road bluff was the best strategy play I've ever seen), and in the fall the best Phoenix race I've ever been to (where according to my friends who were watching, I apparently dabbed on live tv). And to top it off a girl I really really liked invited herself over to my dorm to watch Homestead with me and I remember her being so startled when I suddenly jumped up in excitement when my guy Larson slipped past Harvick to win Stage 2 because she thought I was kidding when I told her I really enjoy NASCAR. That was all before I began to experience why engineering is such a difficult major. Life was so simple back then...
Honestly, I enjoyed seeing Logano steal the title from the Big 3 simply because I was fed up with hearing about them all the time. The fact that it also exposed how broken the points system is was just icing on the cake for me.
Same
But they deserved it not Logano typical Penske driver back door win
@@zcams You're missing my point. The way NASCAR media wouldn't shut up about The Big 3 for most of season made it get stale. On principle, I agree Logano was less deserving, but the way The Big 3 was hyped up ad nauseam made them being upstaged feel cathartic. When I'm less entertained by the thought of a tight championship battle by three talented drivers than I am from a guy spoiling the party by exploiting a ridiculous points format, then there is a problem.
Not as exposed as the system got in 2020
@ZeusCannonBen I didn't follow in 2018 so idk how bad it really was, but it probably woulda been less annoying if "The Big Three" was an actual intense season long battle instead of everyone knowing the points are just gonna be reset
Shoutout to Kenseth who was in a row behind them in his final start
Eric Estepp: *happiness noise*
@@DepravedCoTApologist Me: happiness noise
How ironic
@@gabingston3430 same, kenseth was just the best.
Turns out it wasn't his final start!
Missing Rings: Martin Truex Jr. 2015-2016 and 2019, Kevin Harvick 2016 (under 2003 points, he would've been champion), Matt Kenseth 2006 and 2011, Kyle Busch 2013 and 2016, Joey Logano 2014 and 2016, Jimmie Johnson 2012, Dale Jarrett 1997.
Scuderia Kasey Dixon Matt Kenseth 2006 and Jimmie Johnson 2012 are coming soon (Iceberg announced it after a poll) but I think Harvick in 2016, Kyle Busch in 2016 would be interesting seasons for discussion.
@@austinemms9772 Okay.
Clint Spoiler 2012
This was probably the most surprising thing that happened during the 2010s NASCAR Seasons
I´d say that belongs to Tony´s 2011 championship
Matt Crafton coming out of literally nowhere to win a championship in 2019?
It's exposed the system really, current chase is nothing more than a toilet flush for fans
at the very least logano was a driver who was gonna win a championship but it shouldn't have been 2018 it shouldve been 2015
And the most boring.
Kyle Busch and Joey Logano: *expose flawed system*
NASCAR: "iT mAkE's ThInGs InTeReStInG aNd ThE fAnS lOvE iT!"
"Are these fans in the room with us right now?"
I mean while I agree one of the other three was deserving, Joey only wasn't comparable stats wise in wins. He was close in everything else.
However, here is my idea. Can we go back to the pre-2004 format. Nascar changed this to the chase all because Kenseth won with 2 wins, versus Newman who had like 6-8 I think. But Newman also had a ton of DNF that year. Imho, I'd rather we let the season play out and whoever clinches in whatever race deserves it. Winning should matter for sure, but overall consistency should to. That's what JJ did so well. He won but was consistent.
The chase has screwed drivers out of titles. Like I think Jeff would have 7, Harvick would have a couple more, guys like Edwards would have one. Formula 1 and Indycar have no playoffs and are just fine in crowning a champion.
Kenseth actually won 1 race, and still became champion 1 race in advance. I agree with you about the format
Inside Line I think a solution to that is making wins worth much more in points than 2nd or anything. That way consistency is still rewarded but winning is the biggest factor.
@@seanmurray6026 I would have the 2004 points format that added 5 points to the winner's score but keep the winston championship format. If we are forced to keep the playoffs instead, at least give them the playoff points like the previous rounds and give points like the other races, because this "winner takes all" thing is bs.
Missing Rings: Ross Chastain 2019
Missing Rings: Jimmie Johnson 2012
Ross Chastainfan10 Ross chastain wasn’t a missing ring it was a good season
@Van Quan I agree, Moffitt or Chastain both deserved that title
@@DepravedCoTApologist And then Crafton just said "well yes, but actually no."
Ross Chastainfan10 Jimmie has 4 championships he doesn’t deserve
@@nathanielhiggerson7679 Can you explain what years Jimmie didn't deserve? I feel he doesn't deserve his 2007 and 2013 championship
As Slapshoes once put it, "Spoiler alert, [Joey] won the damn war."
Logan Bailey unfortunately. Would have liked Harvick or Truex to win it. Logano is the biggest baby in NASCAR
@@dualthreatoutdoors one hundred percent agree with you Logano is a baby
And I would have been okay with Truex but I wanted Kyle to win that championship
Kyle was a huge baby, everyone but simps will admit. And while I hate the Penske guys, Logano isn't the largest baby, he's the biggest in Penske.
The playoff system should seriously get a rework...wins and consistency should be rewarded equally
NASCAR Kumon Cup Series now about no playoffs? Doesn’t belong in racing
I agree with the word “Playoffs” not exactly being a word that should be used in motorsports. I do think it’s a better idea to have a format that encourages winning and also consistency, kind of like a mix of the current format and the old Chase format. Something that rewards consistency and winning, but also slowly knocking out drivers who can’t capitalize on the opportunity they have
@@JackLikesTrackhouse what they should do is do the old playoff system where it is a 10 race strech 16 of the best drivers until the end of the year
Just drop the win and you're in
@@crouchb15 that's what I was gonna say. A good mix would be to drop the win and you're in, maybe just have the wins equal the highest amount of points. If you're consistent and ahead, have a lot of wins already, it rewards. If you have fewer wins, sure you boost up a bit but it won't throw you into the next round. Gotta be dominant. Maybe that idea of an old points system still combined with elimination would be a great blend of both.
More like the big FOUR! My no. 31 Lowes Chevrolet was so fast that the cameras couldn't pick up my awesome velocity! Only a driver with the 1995 NASCAR SuperTruck Series Inaugural Champion can achieve this feat! I drove the Lowes Chevrolet before it was cool, and now Lowes left Jimmie to sponsor me just like the good ol days!
11:51 well, guess what happened 3 weeks later Truex??
That quote made me realize that Truex can't predict the future right.
Do you want to sign up as the 17 in my new stop motion series? Last spot
@@GatoradeCupSeriesX94 how do I do that??
Except NASCAR rigged the race with the phantom caution. I respect Truex for actually being a hard working racer who wants to win based on skill and NOT wrecking people.
Well since you already have a driver name, I can let you sign up by adding you on the list of drivers for the series
@@GatoradeCupSeriesX94 oh ok
Once again this exposes NASCAR's flawed points system
Amen to that.
Once again people forget 2003 with Newman winning 8 races versus Kenseth 1 win. Who won the title? Kenseth.
It doesn’t matter about how many wins they got it’s because they had a better average finish at the end of the season
True that
Nic Lazzari nah Newman did
I was at that Martinsville race where Joey Logano put the ole bump and run on MTJ. I loved it, and felt right there that he shouldn't be underestimated going into the finale
Boo
At that final restart, (15:30) Logano and Busch almost spun out with Harvick right behind them. Imagine that happened and Truex was the only one left.
Missing rings: Cole Custer 2019
And 2018 for that matter.
Union Pacific fan 2000 THIS.
Facts
Nah, Christopher Bell. Although, I like Reddick!
General Custer is the most underrated driver.
@The Iceberg, I would like to suggest a video: Richard Petty's 27-win season in 1967. I don't think EVER again will we see one driver absolutely dominate one season than Petty did in '67. We want to talk about the Big 3's run of dominance of Busch, Harvick, and Truex Jr in 2018, or the Big 3 of Busch, Edwards, and Johnson's run in 2008, but Petty won more races by himself in 1967 than all three drivers did in those two years together.
That was an amazing season, plus the championship race at Miami was the Big three and me (Joey Logano)!!!!😃😃😃🏎🏎🏎🏎💕💕❤️❤️
I’ve been requesting this video since before your Matt Kenseth missing rings video. Thank you so much.
Man, did I love watching the Big 3. First time since 2008 I had seen 3 drivers in their A game for a 36 race schedule
God I love Kyle Busch! Since 2008 I've been watching that kid drive the wheels off his car. Absolutely amazing!
He's the best there is
Funny enough this was my first season of NASCAR I watched. I started watching it when the playoffs started so i missed the big 3 build. But I've been hooked ever since
Big Three: I'mma get a second championship
Joey Logano: Imma steal the 2018 championship
Big Three: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice I was waiting for the video for sometime..it was worth the wait and this championship final 4 should be talk about for years and decades to come.
Iceberg, 2008 had an big 3 too. Edwards 9, Johnson 8 and Ky. Busch 7 wins computes for 2/3 of the season in wins between those 3. Two of them were on a fight for the championship all the way to Homestead. I think that could be a good video for you.
You need more subs. You are absolutely amazing!
Even though they dominated, 2018 was probably one of my favorite seasons of all time, especially the NBC part
I don't understand how NASCAR could throw a totally fine points system they have for 3 decades in the trash. 2003 wasn't the first time someone won the title based on pure consistency. It's like they don't see all of the great championship finales Formula 1 and Indycar have had in the past 15 years running a points system that makes every race count the same lol.
Brian France is the reason for them throwing the totally fine championship format away. And now, it's too late to go back.
Your videos are awesome. Keep at it man. Been binging them for the past week. You’ve got interesting video ideas and you follow through on the title with a quality video.
Another awesome video. You've done what if videos for the playoffs, but if you're up to it, I'd like to see some what if's for playoff and chase seasons WITHOUT a points reset. Straight points season, 40 for the winner, 1 for last place, 36 races. Just to switch things up a bit.
I loved this result because Logano really deserved to have a Championship.
And i got really sick and tired of hearing all the time about the big three.
That's why for example i loved the fact that Suarez won Xfinity Championships because he was an outsider and that's the point of the current system, giving everyone of the 4 a real chance of winning the championship.
I do think he deserves a championship but not the way he got it truex worked on him for many laps and it all got thrown away cause of a bump in the last corner idk bout you but I'd be pissed as hell if I raced someone as clean as truex did the just get bumped out of the way I prolly would have wrecked joey at homestead if that was me
One of my biggest surprises was Brad K not rounding out the Final Four after he went on his tear late in the season
Travis Guin the 2 team always finds a way to choke when it counts. That’s probably what led to the crew chief swap.
Actual champion: Joey Logano
Potential champion: Kyle Busch
John Vandeventer the MLB baseball fan 2020 2018 non-Chase Champion: Kyle Busch
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 3 months late but what I mean by potential champion is the non Chase champion
John Vandeventer the MLB baseball fan 2020 yeah that’s what I mean
8:15 putting a kid in a beer car. GREAT IDEA!
Do upset victory by Timmy Hill from Texas yesterday's race?
God this season, mostly that year was hard for me. Mostly as a Johnson fan it was hell, especially at the Roval. But I have to admit the big 3 gave a good show and Logan’s stealing that championship made it even better.
The Homestead race was also amazing with that pass on Truex from Logano.
I have been waiting for it for a long long time
Big three: fighting for a championship
Joey Lagano: Allow me to introduce myself
Video suggestion. Missing Rings: Sterling Marlin 2002
People take issue with the playoff format, but as far as I am concerned, its the craziest, most interesting thing to watch. It separates the men from the boys, in a sense. Yes, Crafton got the win this past year without winning all year, but that's the magic of the playoffs. Anything can and will happen. You could have the best season of your career, like Busch, Truex Jr, and Harvick did in 2018, but if you can't close the deal and get the job done by winning the championship, then it matters not. You have to be on your A-game EVERY week, and you know those tier lists with that "S" tier? Yeah, you gotta be on THAT level for the playoffs. Playoffs or not, it works the same way.
The fact that you have to make a video on the missing rings of THREE DRIVERS that dominated the season is really sad. Goes to show even further how broken this format is.
TheCasual_Gamer been saying it since 2004... but they should have scrapped it after 2007 when Gordon was robbed in broad daylight because Johnson even getting in 2nd in points he would have been too far behind!
I dissagree. I think the Kyle Busch hate goes so strong that people are totally fine with how this season and playoff format turned out.
I mean yeah, everyone was fine because "Oh at least Kyle Busch lost," but that isn't exactly my point. My point is these guys won 20/36 races combined and yet they didn't win because of the way the format is set up.
its a system that was designed to promote entertainment, not legitimacy. There shouldn’t be a surprise NASCAR is associated with the term “WWE on wheels”
I guess that is quite true.
I honestly think NASCAR has managed to do better with this playoff format. Sure, it isn't always the case that the best driver and team go on to win it all, but please bear with me:
Joey Logano won the 2018 title because he was there when it counted the most. Sure, the 1 win all regular season at Talladega really puts you down compared to the 3 guys that have outright dominated the season so far, but Logano managed to keep his consistency up in the first two rounds, and went to victory lane at Martinsville when it mattered in the third round, and when he had to finish better than the Big 3 a Homestead, that's what he did. He brought a better car to the track than the Big 3, and he had a better strategy than the Big 3, and that's why he won.
Also, think about this: Let's throw the playoffs away in a sport like the NFL. Guess which team wins the Lombardi trophy in 2007 with 16 wins to their name? I don't think anyone outside of New England would like hearing that. To add on, in NASCAR, Jeff Gordon won 4 championships in 7 years under a format with no playoffs, and fans would boo him because he won all the time. Jimmie Johnson won 5 titles in a row with a format that was basically a 10-race regular season. Compare those to one of today's drivers who win all the time, Kyle Busch. He's won 2 titles under the playoff format. What will fans do if a driver like Martin Truex Jr, Alex Bowman, Ryan Blaney, or William Byron go on to win 3 championships in a row? They would be booed, but they aren't in real life because they don't win as much as guys like Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and Joey Logano (except for Truex, he wins a lot too).
The look of what I see in a NASCAR fan is confusing and kinda strange, too. But the product NASCAR puts out is the most important thing in the end. Thanks for bearing with me.
The difference is just one race in Nascar is so much more random than in other sports. Can you imagine if the World Series was just one game?
Expanding on Fj Fj's point, the circumstances of football don't change game-to-game like they do in stock car racing does by going to an entirely new track every week. With the current system, a driver could theoretically perform "so so" throughout the year and win one race to get them into the "playoffs". From then they can just continue to race mid-pack until they get to one track they feel good at.
The problem with this system is that it doesn't encourage drivers to be better than most. It encourages them to be "good enough", which is the wrong way to crown a champion.
That was my first time trying the podcast thing. Damn that was fun but definitely a learning year evn though I was fan since 1976
13:26 "Look at the damage to the 41 of Credit One Bank!"
The funny part is that the "4th place guy" in the 2018 regular season points in *all 3 series* won their playoff championships (Which is funny because in a real points format, Tyler Reddick would have finished 6th in Xfinity points in 2018 instead of winning the title)... 2018 proved the playoff format in it's entirety, even going back to the days where it was initially called "The Chase," is a total joke & *not* for auto racing. How they have not changed it back by now I don't know...
... Like, when David Land is doing a video on that, & it features both me & KamikazeGames, you *_know_* NASCAR messed up! XD
That Phoenix pass by Kyle was so good damn
NASCAR Fans: WAAAA I hate it when the same driver(s) always win!
Also NASCAR Fans: LOGANO ISN'T LEGIT! NOT MY CHAMPION!
Jason Straight I was so happy none of them won it. It got real old, real fast.
When Truex spun Jimmie Johnson I was sad
Matthew Sisoler Im a logano fan and that was one of the best moments of the decade
JRC Automotive he didn’t spin Johnson...??
TheSmilingNoob at Charlotte
One of the best upsets in the history of racing.
This was honestly the season that made me a Logano fan. I know he’s in no way likeable, but to win the championship in that season, against that opposition, in that form. That’s a real good racer
I totally agree. I love his aggressiveness and the fact he didn’t care and just went out and stole it from them
Unpopular opinion: I like this format for its unpredictability
Joey Logano's Martinsville Win & Championship will forever be The Overall Conclusion of The Jeff Gordon/Clint Bowyer Saga in 2012 & The Matt Kenseth/Joey Logano Saga in 2015 because Logano (Driving the 20 Toyota Camry for Joe Gibbs Racing with Dollar General as the sponsor) was the driver wiped out in Gordon's retaliation against Bowyer in The Infamous Phoenix Race which Foreshadowed Kenseth kamikazing Logano into the Turn 1 Wall at Martinsville (The Very Same Track & Very Same Corner that sparked The Gordon/Bowyer Saga resulting in The Infamous Phoenix Race 7 Months Later) as retaliation for the Kansas race 2 weeks prior resulting in Gordon's 93rd & Final Career Win.
This exposed the playoff system....
DennyDelivers preach, brother
Honestly, stuff like this really pisses me off. The fact that none of them, despite getting so many wins, top 5s, and top 10s, they all got robbed.
Scuderia Kasey Dixon broken format
no that crafton championship did that is the most undeserving chamionship ever he did nothing that season
@@svech37 Austin Dillon won 0 races in 2013, yet he won under a GOOD points format.
Unpopular opinion: Logano deserved that 2018 title
John Vandeventer the MLB baseball fan 2020 yes, he was consistent. However with no-Chase, he wasn’t consistent enough to win it
Nope he did not at all he did not even win the regular point system or the classic winston way as many would say
@@svech37 He won with the rules given to him at the start of the season. Even if he wasn't the best driver that season..
@@Michael29Shell Exactly. It's like some races. Just because you have a rocketship of a race car doesn't automatically mean you win. Every champion is a rightful champion
"Hey won the battle but he ain't winnin the damn war"
*Curb Your Enthusiasm theme plays*
Big Three: Dominates the season
Joey Logano: Hold my Pennzoil
Kyle Busch and Harvick are my favorites, Logano is the only driver I hate. As one can imagine, I took that Homestead race very very well 🙃🙃🙃
Funny thing Martin, Joey got the last laugh a few weeks later.
Had help with a phantom caution. I can't wait until Joey has a wreck like Kyle and Denny is 2015/13. I almost added Newman, but that's a little (JUST a LITTLE) extreme. I have his autograph but he's still a bucktoothed prick.
Will Griffin I hate Logano too (a lot) but don’t wish injury on him, just because he is a buck toothed, underserving, bitchy, prick
@@bradenadams6932 they ended up being fine so...... that's how I feel about him.
Believe it or not 2018 was the first time Kyle Busch won the most races in a season (8, tied with Harvick.) Harvick could have had a lot more, there were several races he lost despite having the lights out fastest car. Busch meanwhile won some races he probably shouldn't have, for example he was a 10th place car all day at Chicagoland. Harvick off the top of my head choked away Michigan 1, Texas 1 (a race that Kyle Busch eventually won), and got completely snookered on strategy at Sonoma when it was going to be a dogfight between himself and Truex. Also had race winning speed at Auto Club and was probably the only guy who could have had anything for Busch at Charlotte. Yes they both won the same amount of races, Harvick on average had a lot faster cars though.
I just want to have a style where instead of people being eliminated it's as if the season simply resets between the top 16 drivers where only the playoff points are there to start off as your bonuses.
Isn’t Kyle Busch technically the next intimidator he wrecks people sometimes for no reason always a championship contender a lot of people hate him because he wrecked there favorite driver
And now run for RCR
The last caution sealed Truex's fate. Truex had a long run car, Logano had the short run car. As the laps were going before that last caution, Harvick was leading the 4 but Truex was going to pass him within a few laps. Logano's car had already fallen off, and Kyle was a non-factor the whole race. That last caution cost Truex the championship.
F's for the big 3.
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0:57 I was in that crowd!
As a Harvick fan, was sad to see this season not end in a Championship for Kevin. This was like Gordon and Mark Martin but if neither won the championship
Evan Orr I feel the same as a Truex fan, this put the icing on the cake for why I despise this undeserving prick!
Even though i hated the champion of 2018 i really liked the season even though 3 drivers dominated
This was a crazy year
This episode gave me PTSD of Phoenix as a chase fan
the year i became a nascar fan.. Bristol 2018
Kyle busch is the real champion in the old points system ahead of him his future teammate martin truex jr. By 54 points if he do he will be 2-time nascar monster energy cup series champion but in the new points system joey logano wins the championship in 2018 it makes many wonder what if the big 3 they passed joey logano then they pulled away then joey logano they can't chasing them or maybe kyle busch he is the strong car until the last lap at homestead
This just proves how broken the system is. This season really made it hard for me to watch nascar after this
Announcers:Ohhhhh he puts him outta the groove there oh man😂
Go Joey logano hope he wins more championships
Nah- Rosa Parks
@Thomas Apple shit head Elliot will also never win a championship
Truex: "He's not winning the championship"
Logano: "I’m about the end this man's whole career" 👀
It should have been mentioned that Penske and Gibbs cars brought out a caution that set up the final restart. Logano only had a good short run car.
The 12 car chase was the most valid for the most part, but the 16 car chase is joke, 2015 Champion should've been Harvick, 2016 any Gibbs driver, 2018 shouldve been the big 3 obviously and 2019 shouldve been the 11 or 19
Kyle Busch still would have won 2019 with the Winston Cup Points.
@@gabemarques9073 and 2018 sadly
I never noticed how many races these three actually won that season holy crap
Missing Rings: Martin Truex Jr 2019. If you guys don't agree, I'm fine with it
BryanVlogs I agree, imo I think he deserved it more than Hamlin. That’s just me though
Missing Rings
Dale Earnhardt 1995
Going for a record breaking 8th championship and record tying 3rd in a row, Dale Earnhardt put on a stellar performance, scoring 5 wins, 19 top fives, and 23 top tens. However, a slight inconsistent summer stretch cost him the title to none other than Wonder Boy Jeff Gordon, who lit the sport ablaze in his breakout season. Dale lost by just 34 points.
Here’s a better question for that ending: what if Chevy didn’t fuck up the Camaro?
2008 vs. 2018
both had big 3's
2008 had 24 wins Johnson 7, Edwards 9, and Busch 8
2018 had 20 wins Truex Jr. 4, Harvick 8, and Busch 8
2008 had a big 3 champion Jimmie Johnson
2008 had the other championship contender with Joey Logano winning the championship what a heart breaking ending to there seasons with so many wins and no championship
hE mAy HaVe WoN tHe BaTtLe, BuT hE aInT wInNiN tHe DaMn WaR
CRAPCAR helped phuker.
Missing rings: Kasey kahne 2006,
Justin allgaier 2018, Ross Chastain 2019
Can we get a F in the chat for the big 3
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F. uck this playoff system
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Please please please Iceberg. Would love to see a missing rings special edition about Indy 500
Start with Jr Hildebrand and Tk, Sato, Andretti to name a few.
You should do a video on who’s going to fill in for Jimmie
Logano is such a dirty driver. Shouldve never been in the top 4 if it wasnt for him shoving truex out of the way in martinsville. Still salty about that
Until the bristol race, and the daytona 500 that season, looking at the 2024 schedule LITERALLY all their wins line up EXACTLY With the 2024 schedule lmao imagine not harvick hut like truex busch and ig hyron do what these guys did by winning pretty much all of the first race's
2018 in my opinion was not a bad season. I think when you got 3 of the most hated drivers in the sport dominating (me personally have nothing against them) its gonna lead to fans calling the season garbage because a lot of fans out there are biased. Had this been chase Elliott, Ryan blaney and bubba Wallace that were the dominant guys then people would've been calling this the best season ever. People don't pay attention to the actual on track racing. Did it start off kinda lackluster? Yes without a doubt but it got better as the year went on. Especially when NBC took over for the rest of the season. Fans complained about the driver's that were winning and guess what....? We got a crappy aero package with reduced horsepower. Maybe paying attention to the on track product and judging the season by that instead of how you feel about drivers should be the way to go. It's a classic case of "you never know what you got until its gone".