LL Cool J: The Original Drake
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2023
- Everything in the culture of hip-hop has a trailblazer that made it possible. From Kool Herc’s inadvertent creation of the genre as a whole and Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five injecting social commentary amid the pulsing beats on “The Message” through to Schooly D paving the way for NWA to take gangsta rap global with his groundbreaking “PSK”, nothing within this genre is born without the seeds being planted before them.
In an industry where no one exists in a vacuum, the steps that most hip-hop artists take are a case of retracing that which came before them in one way or another. And while the internet has opened the floodgates for diverse, experimental voices to find audiences, the mainstream landscape is one which remains adherent to tried and tested templates, formulas and set roles that need to be fulfilled.
And ever since the man LL Cool J, lesser-known James Todd Smith left his mark on the game, one of those has been for a smooth-talking, million-selling ladies man who isn’t afraid to spit with the best of them when it’s required.
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Who did it better tho?
Not even a question LL.
LL
I’m a 2001 baby so I grew up with Drake . So I’ma say Drake . I don’t know any of LL cool J music in that time I wasn’t born yet . No disrespect. Just saying. 🤷🏾♀️
Are you serious? Of course LL COOL J
@@sweetqueenladybug2028 I was born after you and I know ll cool j is better
Cannibus said "99% of your fans wear high heels" LL responded back with "99% of your fans don't exist". Savage
"u aint got the skills to eat a niggas ass like me" LL won after that line
Canibus still a better rapper. He def phucked up stepping to legend like LL, but bar for bar LL is beginner level--Canibus just bit off more than he could chew in terms of gatekeepers and fanbase--this was in what 200/1--we didn't have census of the internet, it was select few who decided things, that's why Eminem needed Dre just to get started, etc. Today soundcloud and famous overnight.
AND it's Canibus, like Can-I-Bus, even his name has bars; not a bad spelling of cannabis.
Listen to Canibus-Channel Zero
Yeah and canibus still destroyed him lol, ll cool j had a bunch of nursery insults in his response
*LL Cool J is a certified legend in the game. Most of these millennials will never understand how influential he is, considering the fact that he came in the hip-hop game at the age of 16. He was one of the first few rappers who superbly mastered being versatile from being hardcore to being a lover boy.*
Drake can do one of them
Not sure why you’re dumping on millennials when a fair amount of you grew up listening to him. I think your beef is with gen z who weren’t born until after his career became legendary
Millenials heard of him as well and may have listened to his music.A gen zer has either never heard his music or know who he is through parents who grew up listening to him.
@@msnewsenior I have heard of his music and I’m a gen Z. What are u talking about ?? My parents and grandparents had me growing up listening to old school music even till this day my grandpa is 75 and only still bumps old school like James brown, llcooj, Marvin Gaye, blues music etc
@@daedae556 ok? you're in the minority. i bet a majority of your friends wouldn't be able to name some of his songs or the name of any of his albums. point still stands...
This comparison is so obvious. There’s are an archetype… mainstream appeal, musical versatility, clean cut image, charismatic, ability to enter other art forms, being commercially viable, etc.
No way bro lol Drake is a different beast
@@topfloorslimey maybe if he didn't have ghost writers
@@danieldowney7692 sure… if you ignore their largely female fan base, acting careers, being battle tested and everything else I mentioned in my original comment.
Real ones know LL is a legend.
NO, if you were around back in his day, you'd know, he candy af. Outside of Momma Said Knock You Out, which he did not write, he was wgak. Another Deangelo, just selling male sex appeal. Nobody in rap thought he was good, but the hoes. He pulled mad hoes to shows, more than Al Green, which is saying alot.
Drake really filled the LL Cool J created, Nelly took over for a bit and Drake as been holding it down since 2009.
Ja rule had a lil lane in the early 2000s too
do not forget Ja Rule
@@Luke-kg7vu yep
@@Luke-kg7vu FACTS.
never forget T-Pain Rappa turn into singa
I grew up hearing my elders say how dope LL Cool J was as a rapper, and my introduction to him was his "Phenomenon" album and I definitely became a fan shortly after that. His beef with Cannabis is one of those ones that was mostly petty, but brought on some truly great diss records and LL is definitely a legend in Hip-Hop with a doubt.
Did you actually listen to Canibus? BC if you did, you would easily see he had mad bars, but LL was pretty broke. Compare the times, we didn't have internet to decide who is better; only a few gatekeepers and payola DJs. Now you see how a inferior artist won.
He’s the original LL Cool J.
#preach
Huh?
Don't think Drake been rapping since 9, & making his own beats' & probably became a heartthrob after becoming a rapper..🤔
LL is incomparable.
yeah the fact that he went right into acting and killed it is crazy... drake still acts like hes 21 tbh
LL is wack
@@tuelzaltthat is drakes lifestyle tho he’s a bachelor and lives like a younger rapper when he settles down his music may change
@@kaws3076L take
Comparable to all other fake rappers like Drake or whoever you wgak frauds are listening to.
That line by Canibus "ninety-nine percent of your fans wear high heels" I never saw as an insult. So many rappers wish they have more female fans and some maybe that type of male fans.
LL came back and said “99% of his fans don’t exist” which I think is one of the best comebacks of all time
@@slimshady1363 Yeah that is funny lol. I forgot about that one. LL that man only rapper/actor better than him is Will (Wahlberg don't count).
@@slimshady1363 That line never made sense, seeing that the 1% of fans would mathematically equal to 100% of his fanbase. But either than that, the diss was tough.
@@miguelesteban5768 and canibus used ll weak mathematics as a hard diss in rip the jacker
LL definitely deserves his props. He still is the blueprint for hip hop lyrically and one of the very first rappers that influenced his followers to hit the gym too.
Saw him live in London. A class act for sure.
Unlike Drake, LL said things with his chest. And, when Cool J said: "Mama said knock you out," he actually meant that shit. Aubrey, though... Idk, but seems like there's many spots where he's lying.
He definitely meant that shit. His mama probably said that too😂
LL isn’t just. A rapper he’s and MC and true lyricist also mixed rnb with hip hop he’s made it through nearly 3 decade or more and has had hit in almost all its true Ladies Love Cool James
I understand the comparison, but it's different in the way that no real emcees look up to Drake from the aspect of being a rapper. They just respect his ability to keep himself relevant. Some of the best emcees of all time looked up to LL as an emcee.
I’ve never heard anybody speak or complment drake for his ability to be relevant you sound dumb 😂😂😂😂😂
yeah idk one artist that wants to be drake beside the success of him. Style and everything is no way. Someone like King Von is a example of rapper everyone copies. Chief Keef... Lil Wayne... its more than just selling albums its like a whole look and everything. Dipset like everyone in NYC dressed like them back then. Snoop Dog. Drake literally noone acts or dresses like him or even tryies to rap like him tbh
@@tuelzaltSerious question why did you mention lil Wayne and chief keef?
@@Dat.BoyJay cus ppl actually copied them alot... Drake noone really copies tbh hes a great artist... one of the best but cool wise... H3LL NO
@@tuelzalt king von is one of the many children Chief Keef Birthed
If anyone’s the OG Drake, it’s Nelly.
na Ja Rule is
I’m just here to say thank you LL
We all owe you
Cool you guys did this
Actually LL Cool J you did this!
I mimic my Game after LL .. a street guy they ways a ladies man.. thank you 🙏🏽 LL cool J for everything you Did
LL Cool J is a legend and Drake is a legend, love it or hate it these are facts.
💯 great take bro
Love cool j. One of the best of his era alongside Rakim. He made Kangol and rope chains a status symbol. I still wear 'em today.
LL Cool J is 1000x the lyricist that Drake *EVER* was, period.
Idk chief. Check out Drake's time stamps. Also check out songs like Middle of the Ocean, Views, The Ride, Pound Cake, Diplomatic Immunity... This is coming from someone who is very critical of Drake, I also wrote a report on LL Cool J in 2006. It's just trendy to hate on Drake, especially from Older Hip Hop Heads.
Nah, this is a bad take
Not a chance and I don’t even like Drake.
he diffidently better but not 1000x LL cool j was never known to be one of the greatest lyricist
@@drewtube6838 Fr. Its easy to criticise Drake without having to be hyperbolic.
LL is the Rapper what we need more in today‘s game.
A Rapper who brings vibes,Hits & appreciation to Women ( Like Blk Women). And that’s why he‘s still alive today with a great Family. So rare in HipHop tho. His catalogue is just crazy. MSKYO & Mr.Smith are my fav albums by him ever. And LL is the original LL (Not the original Drake).
In My Top 10 Ever.
Nah he’s the original drake you just di(ridin
@@lulanokonwo6274you dickridin drake. How tf can you be the original version of someone who you’ve been rapping way longer than? I’m talking about YEARS before drake.
@@Dat.BoyJay negga sdfu draje don’t want to be LL you di(ridin gtfo on ll di(k weird as negga.
LL used to go to my moms church in Queens… nice guy 👍🏾
Thanks for showing LL love Drake definitely wouldn’t have caught on as quickly with out that blueprint to follow
This has honestly been one of my favorite HHM videos! Thank y’all!
yo big ups for giving ll cool j his flowers. he’s massively underrated
LL is a legend🔥🔥🔥,top 10 rappers of all time imo.
No. And I’m from the era. Legend no doubt but top 15 at best.
People gotta put more respect on LL’s name fr.
LL never used a southern rapper as a card to make a "collab" album to ride the south wave
LL is in a class of his own….Never call that man Drake….it’s disrespectful lol!!!!
Ladies Love Cool James 🥰🥰
Yes because he’s better
LL not touching drake ever
@@jon_ovo3653 like literally
This is why Im starting to hate hip hop UA-cam channels especially newer ones cuz they dic ride anything that's right now & disregard anything before it Drake is not the end all be all he's just really successful and able to make hit radio songs off of other peoples contributions there's literally nothing original about Drake he did not originate anything he was at the right place at the right time with the right people and they were able to mold him into what he is today in the process they had to screw over a lot of people have a lot of people work in the sweatshop and not get credit while also stealing more popular older songs and trying to pass it off as if it was his own AKA plagiarism AKA stealing copyrighted songs Drake is the most overhyped person in the world it's just because social media it's all about who's the most popular most followers etc which he's on top of all those numbers
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Thank you for giving LL the respect that he deserves. I truly don't care what other say, ll is a top 5 rapper period.
Who else is in your top 5?
LL will always be my #1 G.O.A.T. emcee/role model who I looked up to. I love to get up early to endlessly listen to my favorite LL tracks. Thanks to him and Denzel for be a loud dope combinations of my emcee name.
LL is legend and pioneer and one of first mainstream hip hop artist who had appeal to the ladies and the fellas and a true MC as well glad their showing light on the impact he’s had on the game Drake definitely followed the blueprint and he took it to a whole other level
Glad you said this but LL Cool J is the first rap real superstar. First rapper that females loved, take his shirt off, make hard records..:2pac, DMX, 50 cent, Eminem and many others followed his blueprint.
LL Cool J is the artist Drake wished he could be - and he also didn't play manipulative games and control women. He was sincere in his songs.
Drake took over the lane LL created... It went LL - Nelly - Drake.
@@drewtube6838 that’s not true and people needs to stop doing this. Let each artist enjoy their own unique success and hip hop enjoy their unique experiences.
@@imhaamtothebone583 stop pussyfooting. In the 40+ years hip-hop has been around it’s all been recycled for different generations except the ones who started it. To act like the new generations of rap weren’t inspired or didn’t “borrow” the lessons of the og’s is a flat faced lie. Objectively everyone will have a slight bias according to which era of music they grew up listening to but to not source or see the comparisons is like a Karen saying “all lives matter” at a naacp.
@@imhaamtothebone583 yes tf he did
@@ScottyTownsend91 😂 get out of your feelings. The comparison doesn’t do Drake any justice. If it was a homage towards something then that’s a different story. This comparison make is random.
Thank you 🙏🏽 been saying this 💯💯💯💯
And if we’re really going to be honest. Bobby Brown and New Edition was doing a lot of Hip Hop and R&B back in the day too!
I was listening to the bigger and deffer album by ll and then this came up on my notifications
Idk what pop rap is but I will say he's the founding father of hip-hop/R&B or rap/R&B fusion sound
That statement from Drake shows how far he's come. "I wanna go about rap in the most non-confrontational way possible" is wild in today's day with drizzy. He all about those mob ties and instigating beef with other rappers. Though I still feel like he's trying to paint this picture of a hardcore gangsta, surrounding himself with this beef energy when truly he is a smooth talker. See his beef with Kid Cudi, his beef with Ye. He always making sure his enemies are closer than ever. Maybe close enough to make some records or live performances with.
drake be having the corniest beef possible. esp his response to anthony fantano's lighthearted trolling. he responded with the corniest shit of all time.
@@noodlesushi111 I totally agree. Even if he was trying to be funny, it wasn’t. Just highlighted that even with that kinda money and his place in the game, he is insecure as fuck. And I like drizzy, but that’s just the reality. I wish he would stay true to himself, but eh.
@@TheReverendTholomewP in a beef that fanatano started an on top that people are like Kanye and curious were beefing with drake wdf is he supposed to do? I’m sorry drake isn’t a coward like you hop off his di( appreciate it.
@@TheReverendTholomewPeveryone is a critic
I was ready to dismiss this video but you have made a compelling point. Thanks for this content
Gimme LL over Drake any day thanks.
As a woman who loves hip hop I LOVE LL. His remake of 'aint nobody is a classic!
Great analysis here 👍
now this is a connection i never would’ve made. i guess i get it. but… LL is none other than the original LL.✨
LL was genuinely from the streets though, that’s the difference
3:45 "I never use my outlet for confrontation or negativity" aged like milk
In too deep ! Classic movie by LL gawd
Nice documentary guy🔥
Legendary artist
Thus comparison is perfect
Somewhere KRS ONE has his arms folded watching this going "What?!!"
They both awesome
Drake aint
That title is genius because you got people feeling the need to comment saying that it's not true lol
Happy new year
The only rapper with top 100 albums in 4 different decades. Been saying for years he's the proto drake
so true
Lovely.
Drake music is catchy but always always keep in mind there will never be another LL Cool J👍🙏❤
Finally LL cool J gets his flowers 🌼
LL is goated
Phonte is the original Drake. But LL is definitely the biggest Hip-Hop mainstream influence overall.
LL layed the foundation drake perfected it with going worldwide market
Good video but point of correction:
As much as rap was very masculine in the 80s, when I Need Love dropped in 87, rappers weren't acting like pimps yet (that was only after 1988 when NWA and Too $hort blew up). Rappers were just acting hardcore when they rapped about how good they were. LL was a master of this as even Arsenio told him back then that fans said he was too hardcore.
LL also had many instances where he was accused of being a sellout, especially after his 1989 album Walking With A Panther, leading him to go back to his hardcore side on Mama Said Knock You Out.
Big daddy Kane was the original Mack before NWA
*The first rap superstar.*
I love hip hop maaaaan ugh
LL THE REAL GOAT 🐐
LL is the goat lowkey
I'm sorry but that was the corniest title & thumbnail ever LL cool J is the original LL Cool j Drake biting him if anything LL Cool J came way before Drake, Drake copies everybody he's already gotten sued an lost because he's stolen songs!
I dont think the OP would disagree w/ you...
Check out the video, we touch on this towards the end
LL was his own bodyguard.... drake ain't tough like that.... been a fan of ll even before I knew he rapped.... honestly.... saw him in deep blue sea as a kid.... hes a straight icon ... a real man
My favorite LL Cool J song is Who Do Ya Luv
ITS NOT EVEN UP FOR A DEBATE LL COOL J IS THE DEFINITION OF VERSATILITY I NEED LOVE ROUND THE WAY GIRL I CAN GO ON THE 🐐 BABY 🎤🫶🏾✊🏾😎
Can you do more original rappers videos. I think they’re dope asf highlighting careers that aren’t given their accolades today
There is only, LL Kool J; no comparisons.
4:42 the last thing i would expect is a J. FORCE beat in an TV interview. I feel old
Bro I always say LL is the drake before drake. His legacy is severely overlooked by my generation
I agree with the broad sentiment of this.
That story is over, but my Ryhme ain’t done-LL Cool J!
Ladies love cool James. Is the OG uncle ll cool j🐐💯🏁
Im definetly gonna go check him out now👨🏾🦼not because you said he's like Drake but because the comment said you cappin
This is why drake a legend ,for people to actually be interested in this old artist they have to be compared to the goat😂bro down bad
Title was a little indifferent. Should say this “LL the original lover boy.” Drake is more a descendent of LL than LL is of Drake. If that makes sense.
"Let's get ill"
Lmao “I like ya chorus” 😂😂😂 Shade Gold
Drake:
It's not bout Who did it first it's bout who did right
Facts
See a lot of people hating in the comments, like who did it better, LL or Drake... This is just silly. They're both great artists at their own realm: LL Cool J in Hip Hop, Drake in Pop Music.
And damn, he is slick!
U gotta write yo own joints B ✍🏾- LL Cool J🔥
MC's making slow joints was the thing in the 80's. Cowboy from Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five murdered You Are in 82. Followed by Curtis Blow with Back In Love in 84. Whodini followed up with the super popular One Love in 86. The same time Statasonic and Fat boys put out Float on and Failing in Love. In 87 Shane dropped Left Me Lonely along side I need love. And a year after Slick Rick killed it with Teenage Love....few years later Dre and the World Class dropped Turn off the lights.
I’ve been sayin LL was the blueprint for Drake
LL is the Original LL. LL grabbed a lane that was not being occupied. He was the FIRST Hip Hop heart throb, and he brought the bravado braggadocios style with him. LL was labeled the King of Hip Hop by the media during his early years, but LL called himself the Prince. Later on in years, he called himself The G.O.A.T., a term that he created as an ACRONYM...yes LL CREATED that! He named his album G.O.A.T., it was released on 09/2000. That album hit #1 on the Billboard 200 chart. After that album hit the streets, everybody and their daddy started using the term GOAT....for everything!!!
I have yet to hear anyone call LL corny tho....
Drakes the🐐I dont care what anyone says im a student of the game
This title made me lol
Side Note: I love how people have never heard I Can Give You More and I Want You from the Radio album and shoot straight to I Need Love! Peace!!
My mom nicknamed me after this man. Everyone in the fam calls me LL because of him. He’s legendary no doubt about it
My dad cannot see him as a rapper My dad only sees him as the dude from CSI Los Angeles.
I talked to my momma about it.
She said knock him out!
Drake just shines LL’s balls
I knew what I been saying for the last 5 years would come to light and other people believed in it lol. It’s nothing wrong with that though. They both have contributed to the culture in positive ways 🤞🏾🤞🏾