Could You Carry 100 Pounds of Patrol Gear?
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Vietnam War infantry soldiers had to carry 80-100 lbs. of gear amid hot, humid, and dangerous surroundings. 'The Weapon Hunter' host Paul Shull gets a taste of that grueling experience.
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I served in Vietnam in ‘68-‘73. We only had to carry all the gear like this in the first few months a new Private was there while he was on patrols. But after about 3 months, you just gathered what you needed for the field, and left your rucksack at your fort or fox hole or base. Wherever you were. Because after walking patrol, you’d come back to your area where your platoon or unit was stationed in
Exactly.
Yeah a lot of photos ive seen late war are just simple belt kits and a bunch of bandoliers.
5yr? In MAC-V? I had heard of 1 supply Sgt who served 6yr straight in Saigon. I also heard DA-DoD had limits on how long you could extend tours in SE Asia.
My infantry unit believed that carrying cans of machine gun ammo, lots of M-16 ammo, radios and a couple a days worth of food and water out on what were often multi-day patrols was a better idea than leaving all that stuff back in the rear. It was very hard to predict when it might come in handy for some reason.
@@johnstuartsmith
How many times did you guys actually need all of that gear? Just curious.
Not forgetting to mention that many of the patrols / search & destroy operations took place on hills / uneven terrain.
Vietnam was hell, and don't let nobody tell ya' different.
Don't forget the US lost too😂
i mean politically sure, but militarily not really.
i mean you guys left after making a peace treaty and then when the north broke it your government decided not to act on the treaty.
so yeah you lost, but your military technically did its job.
well i mean first off your first point is redundant, secondly that's why the US even tried to make a peace treaty in the first place
...what, you've never heard of the paris peace accords? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords
Sometimes my civilian friends ask me various questions about the army. You would be surprised at the number of people who don’t know what an infantryman is! I was the company commanders signaller (RTO for our Southern friends), so on top of everything else an infantryman carries, I an AN/PRC 77 set with a couple of spare batteries on top. Now we were light infantry, not mechanized, so I knew how to get a rucksack down to lightest I could. Rations, water, ammo, batteries, socks, bar of soap, towel, toothbrush. Rain gear, FA kit, and that ruck still weighed in at 80 lbs.
So true, Brother. I was in the Herd and I would tell them I was in the airborne infantry and I would be asked if I saw combat!! Joe Ryan A/3/503 AIRBORNE ALL THE WAY
I was Marine infantry, grunt radioman. I don't know the weight of the PRC-25, but it was enough. Plus batteries, rations, and smoke. I didn't carry the M-16, just the .45. If the contact was heavy enough there were extra '16s laying around if needed. I was able to carry the weight. Not easy, but did it.
Much respect but you're not jogging or even force marching much with 80 lb on your back. I've done it, and you can't go for long. Definitely not fighting well with 80 lb on your back.
SFMF from a 2531/2533 .💀
It weighs 24 pounds@@golf25radioman
In Vietnam 68-69, as the "new guy" in my infantry platoon, I got handed a pack frame with 2 steel cans full of M-60 ammunition to carry, as well as all that other gear. Later on, I carried a PRC-25 radio and extra batteries. We all carried a lot of extra ammo. Much of the wear and tear on our bodies wasn't from just standing and walking with all that weight, but hopping, running, leaping and jumping across ditches, out of hovering choppers, off the back of trucks, and slithering up and down mountainous terrain with it. It's a reason why so many infantry veterans wear New Balance shoes. (lots of wide, and double wide sizes...) and why so many of us have lower lumbar regions that look like jagged piles of broken coffee mugs on X-rays.
I tried to tell the doctor at my C and P exam about these activities and affects. They do not GAF.
It's difficult for a civilian to attempt, but in all reality just about anyone can do it with proper conditioning. It's just a matter of training your body to handle that much weight. It's never going to stop sucking, it's more of a mental thing. Rah.
Dane Kunes nothing like a morning ruck to make you feel better
Yut
Truly mind over matter, I totally agree.
Yeah but you pay the price in the end anyway with Arthritis in the spine, knees, hips, ankles and probably shoulders and then there are all the other random injuries that come along. Go speak with any vet about the toll it all takes on the body.
@@travismckinnon7649 I am a vet lol
Not to mention we now wear full armor.
*Kevlar SAPI Plates.
SergeantFrostBite McCoy-Nunez Plates aren't kevlar, they are ceramic. Our helmets were kevlar, but there is a new one now that might not be. Lvl III rifle rated where the old one was only pistol rated.
But SAPI Plates have Kevlar in them?
SergeantFrostBite McCoy-Nunez Mine didn't. Just a ceramic plate rated for 5 direct hits from 7.62x39. Mine were 12 lbs each for the two main plates. Miserable things that couldn't be dropped and always had you questioning their integrity. I'd have jumped at joy for the new lvl III+ steel plates out there.
SergeantFrostBite McCoy-Nunez The carrier itself is made of kevlar and is rated for 9mm pistol or shrapnel. Also a pain in the ass to wear around.
Nam had the best soundtrack and sexiest uniforms of any US war.
I prefer ww1
J R ww1 american uniforms sucked, I honestly prefere the 80's ones, even tho the best looking uniforms were the german and the italian ones during ww2. Man, hate 'em or not, those fuckers looked good.
Splee Spree yes the US had badass uniforms and gear and soundtrack I agree 👍
bird is the word ........suuurfeen bbuerd
xHypocrisy
WW1 US uniforms sucked? I think not. I mean, it was fitting for the period. And it was still classy rather than functional and only functional.
The fitting of the jackets was, in average, a bit too tight, though.
Or so I was told.
"A typical patrol" was everyday. Grunts had no barracks to return to. Everyday was spent walking or manning a bunker on some firebase perimeter. I hated the flak jacket but it helped pad the rucksack straps digging in. Adapting to the steel pot was a pain in the neck for a month or two.
Did you get any permanent damage to the neck from having the M1 on your head for so long? And did any guys dump it for a bonnie or whatnot?
Bruh the m1 helmet is nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@cctproductions6976 not enough exclamation marks...
@@buckplug2423 nah, you get used to the weight of the helmet
Might just be because my only m1 I have currently is a repro but it’s lighter than a few of the other helmets I own like the Hungarian M70 and the Romanian M73
2:00 dude looks like he had a vietnam flashback just from wearing the gear
Paul V sounds like it too
it was a joke moron
Matthew Anthony Your never to young to have a Vietnam flashback.😉
They didn't mention Claymores, 100 rounds of M-60 ammo, Tripflares, and all the canteens that you could beg, borrow or steal. Then you get to sleep maybe 5 or 6 hours a day if you're lucky, and live on C-Rations. Ahhh, what a life! But believe it or not I wouldn't trade that experience for anything now. Grunt !!!!!!!
JPrince43147 or a radio if your a radio operator of a m72 law
I meant or not of
In addition to all the gear he has on, nobody mentioned that infantrymen (grunts) carried on average four fragmentation grenades, one smoke grenade,
one block of TNT (about 2.2 lbs) used to blow trees down to create a landing zone for choppers, and one lb of C-4 explosives, one claymore mine and I also carried one rocket launcher and three bandoliers of M-16 ammo. And that was just the ammo on one grunt. Some guys did not carry the rocket launcher, also one trip illumination flare for night ops/to light up the night.
This does not include any creature comforts such as an air mattress, soap, shaving gear and of course writing paper and envelopes to write home. Most of us carried three days worth of C-rations in the ruck sack, you do need to eat no matter what. Most guys in my unit (1st Cavalry, 1st Battalion, 7TH Cavalry carried three to four canteens of water another indispensable item.
The long humps were back breaking and I would be so tired at the end of the
day that all my bones would ache and I was 21 years old at the time. Even later in life when I did manuel labor in construction or loading and unloading 40 foot semi-trailers for Roadway Express trucking line, I never had all my bones actually ache and extreme fatigue as when I was in Vietnam, it was the most physically demanding type of work I HAVE DONE IN MY LIFE.
Thank you brother...Semper Fi!
HOOAH. THIS WE'LL DEFEND
Now toss THIS type of show on the History channel and I might turn it on again!
Exactly what happened to that network, everything is pawnstars or iceroad truckers, ice road hitchhikers whatever... I miss History of war thursdays and all those WWII/Vietnam documenatires.. Now only on Veterans Day do we get any real shows.
Watch H2 history channel or more 2 history.
Kerry Moore
I can't afford to pay for those, they should be for free
Change the host. We don't need a dumb hipster to be host.
People look at being in the infantry and fantasize about the weapons. But most won't know what it's like having to go on humps with a full pack, ammunition, water, etc. and going for miles on foot. Or even going with a regular combat load on foot with a lot of crap still on you.
Was in service in the mid-1990s until a few years ago. The equipment had gotten better in the 2000s and quite a bit lighter. But it also meant with lighter gear you were thrown more crap to have to lug around.
The kind of stuff I got issued from supply / CIF in the 1990s and right at the start of the 2000s is nowhere near anything like what the guys get now. The amount of pockets, pouches and ample shit to fill all those up is insane. Look at some Soldier or Marine in the late 2000s in Iraq or today in Afghanistan on foot and see the amount of crap they have to carry.
It's like for every innovation, improvement to make gear lighter to improve things for the guy on foot, it only means an excuse to throw more shit for the guy to carry.
Its not fun
100 pounds is a big jump from 80
thats not all the gear btw
+Vegeta21ish a machine gunner could easily carry up to 100 poundds
Yes it is
still 45 kg or 100lb is not much but when you wear it for some time you just want to get shot
The 20 lb difference is made up by the lack of live ammo.
Light infantry isn't.......
I broke my back in 94 humping 140 pounds of gear in Hawaii. I just had another major back surgery as all the disks I damaged herniate. I ran the Honolulu marathon in 94 without training a day for it. Today I can barely walk out to the car without collapsing.
Look up DDP Yoga. He'll get you walking in a year.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003
Have you gotten any better?
@@TheCarDemotic Yes, after having my L5-S1 fused it helped relieve the nerve transmission issues. I can walk around fine but any sort of lifting, bending or twisting still causes a lot of pain.
My ruck alone weighed 95 lbs minimum when I was in the Army. Try doing a 30 mile road march kids. 15 miles then a 15 minute break then do another 15 miles. Welcome to the 2/75th Ranger Regiment.
Then and now:
It takes guts and sweat to lead the way.
I'm ex 18C30 and yeah our rucks were about 100lbs per man on average across the team. It's just part and parcel of the job.
Now as a Marine Radio Operator not only did I carry the same gear as an Infantryman did, but I also carried a Radio also which added to the weight of the gear I carried on my back. Although I never served one day in Vietnam, I did serve from 1975 to 1987🇺🇲
Ahh, the PRC25. I remember it well.
According to a memoir I read, the sergeants would walk up to new guys, throw away over half of their gear which they did not need and replace the weight with more ammo which they did need.
There's definitely the scene of that in Platoon, which was written & directed by a Vietnam grunt veteran.
@@Themaxwithnoname Oliver Stone, 11B 25th Inf Div 🪖
He is not wearing a flak jacket, or carrying a 23.2 lb m-60, or 3 c-rats, a 1911 .45 pistol, extra ammo, and it is not 102 f, and 98 percent humidity. He had dry socks, and a full nights sleep. Nobody interrupted his sleep the night before by lobbing motor rounds at him. He didn't sleep in a fighting hole the night before, with rain and mud creeping into the last dry spot above his ass. He has no clue.
If he knows that's bad, imagine sweating your ass off wearing a flak jacket. Which for the record was Nylon covered in plastic and added an additional 6 to 7 pounds.
i thought most solider wouldn't wear the flak jacket
Marines were required to wear them but grunts in some patrolls did take the flak jackets off.
The m1955 flak jacket is very uncomfortable to fight in i have one myself it isn't made with kevlar like modern flak vests but doron plates wich is like having uncomfortable steel plates pressed against your body
Whistling Maniac it was warm and humid and a nylon jacket which is heavy and not really effective is what people found not worth.
Try a 45 lb IBA with side plates as well as standard, 60 lb ruck, a 9 lb ACH sitting on your head, 3.5 L water pack (about 4.3 lbs), a 9 lb rifle, 4x 30rnd STANAG for M4 plus 4 mags on reserve plus 100 more rounds, a 4 lb sidearm 2x 15 rnd mags for M9A1 plus two reserves with 45 more rounds, plus a 20 lb med bag. I was a doc during OEF '14 - '15. I carried roughly 155 lbs on normal patrols in a scorching 120°F during the day and 17°F at night.
I agree. But on what planet does an ACH weigh 9 lbs? Are you taping rocks to your ACH? Also, a sidearm does not weigh 4 lbs. A fully loaded M9 weighs like 2.1 lbs. And a 9 lb rifle? An M4 weighs 7.5 lbs with a 30 round magazine and a sling. Where are you getting your weights from?
That's a mighty heavy m9 you're carrying, tell it to loose some weight
M4 without any shit on it, weighs 7.5. A CCO and PEQ do increase the weight. I don't know actual numbers but trust me. You really can feel the difference.
M4 with a 30 round magazine and sling weighs 7.5 lbs. This doesn't account for a CCO, PEQ, or ACOG, But having any of these does not make it weigh 9 lbs.
Yeah, it would weight about 8.5 lb. But, its a youtube comment. Why do care that its not 100% exact?
Yes I can
For 5 minutes.
I think the guy is carrying more that 100 lbs....of tattoos.
flak jacket!?!?!?!?
kalle olson shut up not everyone in Vietnam wore flak jackets. The marines were the only ones that wore it in large numbers, and based on all of his gear he is portraying an army soldier.
Connor Gunning because it's a HUGE misconception that most soldiers had them which to me doesn't make sense since most footage shows soldiers without them anyways
It varied unit to unit the in army. When looking at pictures or videos of soldiers in Vietnam usually everybody has them or nobody did.
But the thing is, it seems like marines didn't wear a web gear. Instead they just sling a bandolier around their body
Randy Cheow they were issued the m1961/41 stuff which was pretty much all designed in ww2 besides the m14 pouches. But in around 1968 you can find a lot of marines with army m1956 gear that they picked up. But if you look at usmc pictures from 1969 and on your statement starts to become the story. There are many pictures of guys with a flak vest and a few bandoliers and that's it.
We still carry this much gear around. It's not much fun.
How long can you keep up a sprint or a steady jog? The dude in the video seemed way too out of breath.
Scorp969 At a sprint? Not terribly long, at a jog quite a ways. We managed 54 miles in 48 hours once with 100lbs. It sucked big balls. But it is possible to cover tons of ground if you are determined.
+Scott Mason yo could you give me any advice for preparing to join the marines?
Ka Metro Gnome Run, run, run, and lots of pull ups and push ups. Boot camp is no sweat if you are fit. If not it will really suck.
Scott Mason cheers man
My load out was 130 Lbs when I got out in 08
Him running besides the tank makes it look like a scene from Full Metal Jacket...
Not a tank. M113 APC.
I served and understand how hard it can be at times. I'm no bigger then this man.
I think one trick the soldiers did was to place a rolled up towel under the straps to cushion their shoulders.
Anything that infantrymen might need to carry are always carefully crafted with a lot of sharp corners and protuding bolts and pins. Basic grunt ergonomics.....
i'm not military but i've trained with 100 pounds on my back -- could even hop over fences when i got used to it !
Thank you to our military members for all you have done.
Vietnam Era Grunt served as a 13F for A 3/319 FA attached to B Co 1/503 Infantry and carried even more.... You don't get used to it, but you don't give up, you give up and you have let your fellow soldier down. Sometimes I don't know how I carried all that stuff... Tell you one thing, you learn real quick what you need and you learn what you can do without. I did without a lot of comfort stuff, but one thing I always kept was my daily morning in the dark routine personal hygene kit... soap, razor, wash cloth, tooth paste and tooth brush. Did it all with a canteen and the steel pot used as a wash basin. Brushed my teeth, shaved, and washed my ass all in the dark no flash light necessary. A real grunt has ageless whiskers at the bottom of his steel pot. Never carried a sleeping bag, to heavy, heavier when wet and half the year it isn't even cold. When it was cold, used a poncho and poncho liner. I didn't sleep good. No one gets good sleep in the field, but if you are tired... you will sleep. You will be tired and you will sleep. Peace and love.
At least he didn't have to carry a heavier rifle, a LMG or a Carl Gustav - that would be a lot more fun to watch...
Or a manpack radio. Those things are heavy for no reason.
Was the Carl Gustav around back then? I thought the M72 Law was what we used
@@demongrenade2748 iirc the Carl Gustav was more of a platoon/company-size AT weapon for designated AT units and the M72 was more of a squad-level self-defence AT or anti-fortification weapon for the grunts. The Carl Gustav would be used specifically to engage enemy armour and the M72 would be used in case the infantry bumped into some armour or if they had to take out a particularly stubborn firing point. Kinda like the Javelin and the AT4 now.
@demongrenade2748 the Carl Gustav is a medium anti tank weapon, as apposed to the M72 which is a light antitank weapon
Imagine if it was an M14 instead of an M16
Speaking of pigs, he should of had an M-60. 23.67 lbs. of joy.
combatjumpmaster89 not to mention atleast 150 rounds draped over you but atleast the assistant gunner carried most of the extra ammo and spare barrels plus cleaning kit
@@combatjm89 Naw, he should carry the 60 mm mortar. Big base plate, bipod, sight aiming stakes, small base plate, and ammo.
Don’t forget to mention if your going on a patrol where there’s going to be definite heavy contact with the enemy. Troops carried extra ammo, frags, canteens, extra M60 ammo for the 60 gunners, LAWWs, 90mm recoilless rifles and ammo.
Respect Vietnam veterans
Hi Stranger respect
I like how they took mercy on Paul and didn't make him wear the flak vest.
Nowadays we wear IOTV’s, depending on your size your plates will vary, and usually we have to carry around 70-120 pounds of gear during a patrol, so not much has changed other than technology and improved gear
M113 assault vehicle?
And I always thought they were an APC.
So how does it feel to wear all that combat gear modern fit boi?
"[INTERNAL SCREAMING]"
When I was Infantryman back 1990-1993, I would carry around 100 lbs of gear. Sometimes i would have the saw or i would carry the dragon or at-4, mines and misc. gear. We would usually go over hills and streams. Good times!
The VA has already determined his ailments are not service related.😅😂😊
To answer the question yes and it's not a beautiful feeling trust me my knees and back aren't the same anymore
The M-113 APC was still in active service in the US Army until fairly recently.
All vietnam vets deserve the highest honor for what they went through and rip to all of who lost their lives there
And that was just running on flat ground, imagine trying to lug all that gear up a hill that is drenched with water and mud from the constant rain while getting shot at. No way I could do it.
He is not only missing the flak jacket that does not let his body cool down, he is also missing the 200 rounds of belted 60 ammo. The the pack straps and the 82 gear both have padded shoulder straps. In the Marine Corps we never had padded gear as nice as that.
Im wearing vietnam war stuff right now on the couch for some reason i could barely get off the couch
We train with our equipment,ALL THE TIME....you get use to it also you figure out what needed and what isn't,you share some load with others.....anyway you hold your own!
Radio, spare battery, hand mike, mortar round, it never ends!
Nowadays 77 lbs of gear is about the lightest load a soldier in the US army will be issued (if they’re lucky)
That didn't include live ammo
quarter jukebox Or a flak vest
Reality Productions I'm right and they're wrong. Therefore I'm smart and they're retarded. Come on it's simple logic. By the way what kind of parents name their kid "Reality Productions"?
john john hahaha
john john Lmao man you tell em!
a big reason they switched from 762 to 556 was that soldiers could carry MORE rounds of 556, so its not like they carried less weight. same weight, but armed with more bullets
"M113 assault vehicle"? LOL
M Callahan The one in the video is the armored cavalry assault vehicle variant
I certainly carried over 100 pounds on me during my time in the army, if we skimped on personal luxuries it was to carry more radio batteries and ammunition. I was in Recce pln in a Light infantry battalion and nothing was light apart from the name
Yep, I remember those days and that load out. And so much of it you didn't need it until you did. Semper Fidelis.
Thank you vets !
I'm 36 signed up at 26 and did 2 years in the infantry , I now have bad knees ! I reclassed to aviation after that .Try carrying all basic gear + an M4 and 220 rounds .556, the modern body armor , COUNT THEM - 700 rounds of 7.62 a spare barrel bag with spare barrel and a godamn tripod for the 240b . I trained as an AG Assistant gunner for 6 months and it ruined my knees . After a mile your in pain , mile 2 no pain because your in shock or something but straining by 3 miles you feel like a pissed off wounded animal or like your being punished for more bad shit than you ever did . After that if someone looks at you funny you say wtf is your deal asshole and want to attack to put it nicely ?The weight pulls on you so bad you can't breath properly . Turns out the other AG's were only taking 450 rounds I learned after the 2nd ftx . I threw a couple hundred rounds out in the field out of necessity at one point . Weight is hell and NOT good for you at all. It made me genuinely wish to be struck by lightning , and I would never ever do it again . A rifle man has the life of Riley compared to carrying all that crap . It's flat out to much weight for 90%+ of guys you included. I'm surprised it didn't make me permanently mean as hell . Oh I guess I just hide it !!!!!!!
did any one force you in to the military no so whats the deal giving others the mean looks
of course it would be nicer sipping ice cold drinks with the brass in the shade but you knew what you have signed up for so stop complaining
Ounces equals pounds. Pounds equal pain!
If anything, modern light infantry have even more on them. Yes, you have a rucksack with about 60-80lbs in it, but you also got your rifle, heavier kevlar helmet, and we now have plate carrier and etc which were not used in the 60s-70s
I could when I was an infantryman in the Corps. However with that weight you’re not moving very far or fast. Gear is heavy enough in training but when you add in radio batteries, grenades, smoke, demolitions, ammunition, etc it becomes numbing. One of the hardest Ruck Marches I did was with a weapons Company. I was a TOW gunner so our load also included the TOW system components (you rotated between the heaviest most awkward piece. Namely the TU’s (traversing Unit) and the MGS’s (Missile Guidance System box). Even more so than carrying a 50 cal barrel or tripod or M240 or even the MK19 or 81 mm mortar tubes and baseplates. It’s like hiking with a heavy backpack and a 50 lb briefcase with a handle. Or the TU which you had to bear hug for 15 km (9 miles). It becomes a fight just to survive a formation March even when the company commander puts your platoon in the very front of the formation. Pure misery.
85lbs is just the beginning. Then you start adding extra ammo, water, parts of crew served weapons, etc.
“Our arms were heavy, but our bellies were tight.”
Thank God I was so tempting to choose infantry mos!
Carried 125 pounds in my army days. Some 100+ pound gear, and the FN M240 with 4 belts of ammo. On top of that i had to luggage my personal carbine with 4 mags.
Nightmare.
i love how he holds that rifle in the end lmao
Done it, and it sucks. The joy of being an RTO. This was in the 80's, LRSU. PRC77, KY57, DMDG, AN/URC101, spare batteries, spare hand mics, sat antenna. Even jumped this multiple times. Funny, VA says my bad knees aren't service related 😅😅😅
I drove a 113 as a reconnaissance scout in West Germany 🇩🇪 from 1976-78. I carried much of the same gear, I weighted 135 pounds. We patrolled with a 1/3 of the gear mentioned and stored that and more in our 113’s. Much of the gear was WWII, Korea and Vietnam vintage equipment, thanks to Jimmy Carter and a feckless democrat government. A fair number of people serving in the military at that time were offered to go to jail for a crime they had committed or serve in the Army. It was a reality check for me who was a high school dropout with 2 years high school JROTC. I served my country for 10 1/2 years on active duty and another 2 1/2 in the National Guard before loosing my medical as a Warrant Officer Helicopter 🚁 Pilot. I have used my training to be an air ambulance helicopter 🚁 pilot for 28 of the past 47 years since I first enlisted to serve my country. Thank you President Ronald Reagan for rebuilding a better military and providing me with a future of continued service to my country. God bless the republic of the United States of America 🇺🇸!
When I was young yes, not now in my 60's Heart trouble and arthritis makes it impossible
But on a side note, I really need a pair of them boots would work well in the heatwave were I go to work
Within two years for sure of invading Iraq I was reading about predictions there's going to be a lot of back-inured vets from carrying so much weight. That came true. Being young and strong you might think its okay but your disks and vertebrae are deteriorating under the load. Same problem years ago if you spent a lot time riding horses. The daily dose of hours bouncing in the saddle is damaging the spine. Examining skeletal remains of Custer's men showed arthritis in the spine of men as young as 19. To say they were miserable would be an understatement since I know its like, having the same problem.
Veterans are much more likely to suffer muscularskeletal problems than the general population. Carrying weight is a problem, as is running in boots, marching is not normal walking and puts a huge strain on the body, especially for women who have to take larger steps than they would otherwise take. Jumping down from vehicles, in weight, is also terrible for the knees.
Detailing Diaries as is the "airborne shuffle". My 1SG was only 39 and both his knees had to be replaced.
Great clip and subject. To be fair, at least the guy gave it a go; and alongside a nice M113 APC.
That track is my baby. It was my jungle gym growing up😂
70 pounds of gear isn't that much. Especially for Vietnam. Extra batteries for the radio, extra frag grenades, extra (potable) water, extra ammo (m-16, m-60, m-79, etc)
I think anyone would shocked at the weight. Many of the previous comments speak to that with first hand experience. H2O, ammo, etc, it all begins to add up. The circumstances of Vietnam versus prior or more recent combat zones also plays a factor in determining what gear and supplies are used. But my 2y 2m at Clark AB, RP 88-90 gave me a hint at the heat/ humidity of Vietnam. My senior NCO and Officers who served in Vietnam were great sources of insight too. Many of us young Airmen really enjoyed talking with them about thier experiences.
what's that bottle strapped to his helmet?
gun lube
Nope bug juice or bug repellent is what is in his helmet
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Jason Armstrong or gun oil
Insect repellent.
They left out a spare battery for the PRC77, and the thousand rounds that you carry for the M60 gunner. That’s even more if you are the one actually carrying the PRC77, and the spare barrel for the M60 gunner. Then they left out water and rations.
Eleven B. We always tried to get by with less, but the problem is you need what you need when you need it.
Some of the gear here is what we used during ROTC here in the Philippines. Including my Jungle Boots which we also use as our own version of Dr.Mertens
In my recon unit, core strength was king. It took a couple of annual training cycles to get conditioned nicely.
That used to be the standard pack during the 70’s & 80’s, then DEI got ahold of Basic and it all went to Hades…
Its sad, because the youth owe so much to all those that served back then. Whether you agree with the wars or why they happened, if these men "Didn't" do what they did, there would be no America today.
They forgot to add 200-300 m-60 rounds, a claymore, grenades, and some C-‘s, maybe a law,some c-4. Now I knoewhy I have back problems
usually you have a heavy west on not that flakjacket shit with plates in them, also something like a LAW rocket launcher + heavier gear + heavier weaponry. "mr good shape......."
Metro boy probably thought that it was a piece of cake, and isn't used to rolling around in real gear. I'll bet you even money that he's an ultralight backpacker.
Victor Charlies: A rice hat, some packs of AK ammo, a chinese-copied AK47, a rice bowl and a book of Mao.
Vietnam was probably the most lite weight carried compared to today.
Watching a video about Vietnam and dudes driving the same vehicle that I do. The army still hasn't gotten rid of the m113
He didn't even have a flak vest on, or an extra bandolier of ammunition.
The kit today is even heavier. This ain’t no motherfuckin water park!
Ha ha ha! USMC 0341 (81mm mortars) 1976-80. We carried all that with an additional 30 - 40 lbs of mortar gear on top and kept up with the line grunts (regular infantry only carrying what this guy had on his back) on force marches. A mortar squad force march should be an olympic event - except that you wouldn't find anybody who could do it unless they had served in the military in a mortar unit.
me in highschool carrying every book and ntbk in a backpack cause my parents dont want to rent a locker
Forgot the hand grenades, a smoke grenade, claymore mine , M-72 rocket launcher , alternately a spare battery for the radio operator, a extra belt of 7.62 for the M-60. Some men also carried M-79 so extra 40mm grenades were carried. All men carried a knife and it was common to also have a additional weapon, 9mm browning or captured weapon. And that is a day patrol. Stay in the woods for a while and add on rations, LRRP or C rations and the like, poncho with liner extra smokes for the number of days of the patrol.
Bow you are talking 150lbs.
Highly uncomfortable, mosquitoes, devilish bugs, thirsty, boggy, extremely humid, dirty, nasty, disgusting feeling 24/7, strange people all around, awful smells, bullets, bombs, burning naked children and people running for their lives, etcetera
I did two tours to Iraq with the Marines. Ruck load was easy 150. Now at 36 I can barely move.
Alternate title: man destroys shoulders for the sake of a show for old people
Do it when I go hunting I keep a tent and a bunch of stuff on my back just in case I get lost
The dude looks like me when I go jogging with 100 lbs in my bag hahaha
meanwhile smallest dude in the infantry units of ARVN tends to carry the "Pig" or PRC 25
Imagine carrying the M60 around. I've been to Laos and the weather kicks your ass, 46 degrees one day, kind of dry, then that night monsoon 32 degrees, everything just turns to mud, then hardens back up when it gets hot again. Rinse and repeat as there are thunderheads moving around all day long, and the jungle was just impenetrable. We weren't allowed near it, as they keep finding unexploded munitions all over the place. Moving around would be bad enough, fighting in it would be a nightmare.
Now put a plate carrier on😁
My standard combat load as a Forward Air Controllers in the Marines was around 120 lbs.
My grandpa was in the 1st cav 69-70 and he always told me about how heavy the equipment was and how effed up the weather was really made it sucked