@@kevinthunder3375 There was always commentary and commercials, this is just raw footage Roland Garros uploaded, likely because they can avoid copyright issues that way with broadcasters.
Incredible the density of spectators in the stands. There wasn't a place left. At the time I was a child, it was broadcast on one of the 3 public television channels in France. That Sunday, the audience was monumental.
Lendl was like a heavyweight fighter. The longer the match went the better he got. You had to knock him out. When McEnroe lost the fourth set, he knew it was slipping away. Great match.
I was 16 and I idolized McEnroe. This match still breaks my heart. Those magnificent first two sets and then pure torture. Darn you, Lendl! So easy to contemplate the ifs after the fact, but McEnroe completely routed Connors at Wimbledon and nearly the same to Lendl at the U.S. Open. He could've had the Grand Slam in his wheelhouse if it wasn't for.....Lendl! :) Great match. Thank you for the video.
I was 9 at the time. I still occasionally rewatch it because o hated the rude and arrogant McEnroe. His sadness tastes so sweet even today, as he has indicated in interviews that he never got over it. And all that from two sets up, against an opponent who he was very dismissive about (“I have more talent in one finger than Lendl in his entire being”). Ahhh…!
38 years and rewatching this match still causes pain!! I admire Lendl much more now than I did then. The guy worked his tail off to maximize the talent he had. That is incredibly admirable and I'm a fan of his now. Having said that, McEnroe played so astonishingly brilliant and then threw the match away. I had never seen all-court and serve and volley work like that on Roland Garros' slow red clay. And the clay was slower back then than it is now. To top it off, Mac was doing it against Ivan Lendl's massive power and consistency. McEnroe's failure to work as hard as Lendl, Borg, Connors, etc. started to bite him in the 3rd set , began to haunt him in set 4 and tortured him in the 5th set. Very sad and difficult to watch. Lendl was a great player due to being so intelligent about training and working hard, maybe even better than McEnroe. Their overall head to head record suggests that. However, on this day, before fatigue set in, John McEnroe was producing other worldly tennis on clay court's highest stage. Never seen tennis like that before on red clay! Were it not for temper outbursts that motivated Lendl and Mac's poor relative fitness to his opponent, he should have demolished Lendl in straight sets. It was almost unbelievable to see what he was doing to Lendl's game in the 1st 2.5 sets. The tennis was that superb. Considering the greatness of the opponent, I never saw serve and volley played like that again on slow red clay. There is certainly a life lesson for all athletes in this example........ work hard and shut your mouth:)
WRONG . McEnroe didnt throw the match away , Lendl WON the match because he was THE BETTER PLAYER on clay in general and THE BETTER PLAYER on clay that day . Beside this, McEnroe playing the double allowed him to be much more than simply fit to play 5 sets tennis the way he used to play , MC ENROE WAS FIT ENOUGH
@@patoconnor9600 It was a unique time in tennis history, with so many exciting players and naturally gifted artists around. Nastase, Connors, Borg, McEnroe, Mecir, Leconte, Edberg, Becker, Noah, Wilander, Cash, Korda, Stich..
To me, this and the 1984 US Open semifinal between McEnroe and Connors are the two best matches I have ever watched. I´m still sad for John, but on the other hand I´m grateful for the incredible match they both gave us that day.
@@fundhund62 yeah, exactly! But I feel McEnroe got somewhat of a revenge in that year's us open finals. Also, this match gave lendl much needed confidence as he went on to become one of the all time greats!
Lendl had lost all four of his grand slam finals thus far. McEnroe was world number 1 and playing the best tennis of his career. When he went two sets up quite easily I bet nobody gave Lendl a chance.
Deep, sincere gratitude that this was posted, in this format, that is, the entire thing. Given the epic, seminal nature of this match, I have to note the generosity in that and thank you. This has turned out to be the treat of this mid-summer. Like many who have replied here, just the deepest of memories and impressions about this taut, compelling match. Would have been 30 at the time, but felt very much the young person in understanding what was happening, being somewhat new to tennis. Very impressionable, in other words, but sensing even then the this was a major clash. Lastly, to give a sense of how epic an encounter this was, for simply too, too many reasons to capture here, this match became the subject, the context for a really entertaining sports film called In the Realm of Perfection, which plums the considerable depths to all that was going on over these nearly four hours. Kind of an Art House treatment, but still very much a sports movie. A hearty recommend.
And if I remember correctly he voluntarily lost to some Indian dude during some summer US tournament only to have better rest for the upcoming US Open. At least he said so in an interview few years later. Ciao!
@@Stiffjab71 I mean he was unbeatable here for two sets. He also skipped the Australian Open, which was common among top players because back then it was held during the Christmas season. Chris Evert only attended the AO 6 times in her long career (but reached the final every time, winning twice). It's a really different game now. Federer's best season ratio was 81-4 and that wasn't even his best season.
@@Stiffjab71 Interesting, I remember that loss. It was to Vijay Armitraj (actor in Octopussy) at the ATP in Cincinnati inAugust, I forget which round. I recall thinking WTF??
muy pobre lo de mcenroe.........hoy no podria estar ni entre los 1000 primeros del ranking jugando como una gorda, en cambio lend estaria entre los top ten seguro Esta final fue larga pero no de gran calidad salvo por lo que aporta Lend.
Por dios!! Cómo vas a comparar cualquiera de estos 2 jugadores sobre todo en tierra con Nadal o Djokovic?? Yo también he visto estos partidos y la diferencia es abismal evidentemente en favor de Nadal y Djokovic.
I remember this... Lendl was my favorite player in that era. He was really the only player that had the passing shot for Mac. But Mac was supreme at the net as well.
Thank you for posting this, one of the greatest tennis matches ever. I remember watching the NBC broadcast of this so well. To this day I cannot figure out how Johnny Mac let this one slip away after toying with Lendl in the first two sets, and by playing serve and volley on clay. People I knew who weren't even into tennis were talking about this match the following week.
I think McEnroe was winning. He lost his energy. He "gassed out", in modern terms. I was wanting for John McEnroe to win. He had all the artistry. Lendl and Borg , and even Connors had far more endurance for longer matches.
@@antonboludo8886 You"re all wrong! You have no idea, Lendl was predestined to win an era of 6-7 titles, in Roland Garos! Lendl's problem was his head! In an earlier Grand Slam final against Conners, after a clear 2 to 0 set lead, with the title in sight, he suddenly served from underneath and lost that final! This Head weakness was also visible against Chang! For Lendl, who had already been world champion 5 times by then, it was a milestone, because when he was seemingly hopelessly behind, he was finally able to play free and look at Becker, Sampras, Paris has never been the home of serve and volley players! If Lendl hadn't had this head problem, this wouldn't have been his first title, but 4-8! You could always see this in Wimbledon, easy in Queens (even with serve and volley) and the day after, bad in Wimbledon! ua-cam.com/video/05s5Mx40O1c/v-deo.html
Mcenroe’s game was amazing. Looks like his serve motion was very continuous (following years became slower) great volley. Love watching his game from the back, he stood so close to baseline , absorbed opponent’s power with great slice and his change of rythm jumping to the net with such audacity is truly unique. He was in very good shape . Those first two sets are remarkable and hace not seen such a dominant aggressive creative and graceful game in any other player. A Bob Dylan of tennis
He was at his peak here. He went 82-3 that year and yes, his game was so seductive. The grace and beauty of his serve and the impossibly crisp volleys (done all totally against the way it’s taught)...he was a maestro of the highest order.
I found it weird at the end when Lendl went to his chair without even walking back onto court to receive more applause, and was instantly rushed by the press. I’m glad that doesn’t happen any more, give the man a moment at least to drink and savour his achievement.
Mac the knife at his peak in 1984. He went 84-3 that year, winning US Open and Wimbledon. Just couldn't finish off Lendl in that third set. He kept charging to the bitter end. Great stuff.
@Mr Shread Probably not as the truth is he was nowhere near Borg in the 5th...although that was yes, after having 0-30 on Borg's serve in game 1. From there Borg never lost a point on his own serve.
God ! Here stand the greatest mach of the open era ! Mcenroe at his peak even more agnificent on clay... The day Lendl won even more than his first main title ... he won full deep respect . The end of the richest tennis period, before changes turned tennis in a more powerfull game. Thank you gentlemen :)
I don't think that anyone watching this match would have thought that they had in Ivan Lendl the blueprint for what tennis would become in the ensuing 40 years. The killer forehand, the oversized metal racquet, the emphasis on fitness and the marketing (flashy apparel with ads ), all of it in one single package in a guy with little on-court personality.
surprise totalement scotchée....un grand merci pour ce replay..merveilleux de voir et vivre du tennis tel que sans la diversion de commentateurs juste le sport juste l'arbitre et les spectateurs...
McEnroe was best serve and volley player.Ivan Lendl was the best baseliner.They played many finals.Initially McEnroe was dominating (from 1981-1984).Afterwards (1985-1988) Lendl mastered McEnroe.Both are all time greats.
How the f*ck does this get 28 thumbs up? As Uncle Tony correctly says: Lendl beat McEnroe seven times in a row from 81 to 83. JUST GOOGLE IT! And - ffs - all you thumbsuppers - DO YOUR OWN FACT-CHECKING!
After so many consecutive losses against McEnroe, including some on clay, Lendl showed a lot of character to continue fighting when he trailed badly. McEnroe in 1984 had no problems handling Ivan's groundstrokes. Lendl needed his whole arsenal, including quite a few outstanding lobs, to get through this match. It was quite a physical test too. I wouldn't normally mention a chair umpire, but I thought he did a great job of controlling the crowd. He was right to refuse to check marks too.
In a recent awesome (2018?) televised get together with Wilander, Lendl, Becker, and McEnrone, that was said by one of the others and McEnroe quickly agreed.
McEnroe's 1984 win-loss record was 82-3, so there was no where to go but downhill. But yeah.... it was a steeper downhill than it should have been (and that's when I started to lose interest in watching tennis).
@@brianv5677 read Mac's book His mother pushed him and also the money, Totally different than Jimmy Connors His career lasted longer Mac was marijuana user and was called a pot head by Chrissie Hynde ( see BBC documentary) He is edgy off court too. Connors is a very humble man off court, having met them both I was a Mac fan yet Connors I would rather have a drink with,
1984, McEnroe was like from another planet. Lost only like 3 matches entire year, and before the final already won 42 straight. Lendl, on the other hand was already in a couple slam finals and even reached No.1, but by this point, he had reputation for being a choker and lost a slam final he should won (US open 1983 against Connors
Daniel Kriz absolutely nothing compared to breaking through Roger, Novak and Rafa.. That we still haven’t had a male GS champ born in the 90’s says it all.
@@minoX6 Or perhaps you are young enough that you didn't see the era McEnroe played in where they used heavy tree branches, steel and aluminum to hit a tennis ball, with small heads on the racquet producing a tiny sweet spot and inferior strings.😎 Today's technology is so much better, lighter, and more accurate. The players can swing a racquet that's much lighter, has a huge sweet spot to produce a powerful stroke almost everywhere the ball hits on the racket, and strings that impart crazy amounts of spin that Force the ball to land in many times. None of this was easily attainable in the wooden racquet era. Especially the spin and the power. Add to that the fact that Roland Garros was slower prior to the mid-90s. Wimbledon, on the other hand, played much faster in McEnroe, Lendl, Borg era. The ball wouldn't bounce high (stayed low) and the bounce was very inconsistent due to the type of grass that they traditionally used. Now in this match, McEnroe had switched to a composite racquet the year before, but tennis was still very much in its traditional phase and the string technology still wasn't there. The racket he was using, while better than wood, does not compare to today's rackets in the least. And that my friend, is the rest of the story :-)
@@alexestrada1788 I agree with everything you said I just hated his guts he used to moan all the time and complain about everything and everyone. He was like a child and like to be the center of attention. He still has that attitude working for the bbc
@@richfaulkner1527 I am a Lendl fan all the way But McEnroe on 1984 was unstoppable. During the first 2 sets of the FO he dominated Ivan on his favorite surface. John won 4 tournaments in clay and was able to beat Ivan twice in clay. Great times for tennis.
1981 quarters and 1988 4th round were their other 2 matches at French Opens, so this was their 2nd clash, and what a great match this was, the year before Lendl finally won the US Open in 1985.
3:55:25 is the moment I'll always remember. Mcenroe with his head down while Ivan hoists the trophy. The absolute devastation in that moment was unreal.
Here is some stats. For this 1984 tournament the top seven seeds filled 7 of the 8 quarter-final positions. And 8 of the top 9 seeds filled the quarter-final positions. The top 4 seeds filled the semi-final positions. The 2 top seeds played the final. And it was the same 4 semi-finalists for both 1984 and 1985.
Oh oui c'est vraiment la plus belle finale de Roland Garros de tte l'histoire de ce tournoi..Ivan Lendl héroïque, fut de tte manière très solide durant cette quinzaine pluvieuse et maussade, sur cette terre battue plus lente que jamais..le tchécoslovaque avait notamment écarté avec beaucoup de brio, Jarryd, Gomez et surtout Wilander, complètement surclassé en demi-finale...McEnroe fut solide, à défaut d'être brillant, face à Higueras, Arias,et Connors..big mac retrouvera tte sa magie durant deux sets et demi, mais Ivan le Terrible fit prendre d'un courage et d'une résistance physique à tte épreuve pour finalement remporter la Coupe des Mousquetaires....le tchécoslovaque paiera physiquement sa formidable épopée parisienne même si Lendl atteindra le demi-finales à wimbledon face à Connors..en juillet 84,chez lui à hradec kralove, sur sa surface favorite ( suprême en indoor),Lendl fut surclassé par un Leconte époustouflant, en quart de finale de Coupe Davis..il atteindra à nouveau la finale de l'USOPEN pour y être exécuté par un McEnroe au sommet de son art..il faudra attendre le printemps 85,pour retrouver un Lendl plus menaçant que jamais pour McEnroe..
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The only real blip on arguably the best men's tennis season of all time. As great as Djoker was last year, the competition isn't as still for the era as Mac's was in 1984 with Lendl, Connors, Edberg, Wilander, Noah, etc all still playing at a high level near their primes.
the over-development of technology makes everything less democratic, and this is also true for tennis - the difference between the top players and the rest is much bigger now, exactly as it is the difference among the rich and the poor. I'm not being nostalgic, it's just facts: you want as much comfort as possibile, and as high a technology as possibile, then you you get it, and you lose freedom and equality.
If Lendl were given today’s raquet technology, he’d be a monster…Well, He’d be a monster in any given era…. McEnroe is one the all time most gifted players ever…
@@muzzupappa70 oN this I also agree.,.. If you check the pundits comments US OPEN some years ago (Lendl McEnroe Wilander Becker) -Lendl is saying MCEnroe was certainly the better player on net , nobody could hit such natural angles as MCEnroe could ...but 1984 final FO Paris Lendl was the better player on a clay court than McEnroe , MCEnroe couldnt have won against Lendl for any reason that day - there is a reason why Lendl won all the 3 matches they played in Paris FO
I like how they switch camera from a winning, awkwardly answering questions Lendl, to McEnroe, who sat on his chair, desapately holding his head after the tough loss.
Yes, and then just after that you see Mac stumble and Lendl nearly barf out the contents of that recently drunk water. It was a grueling match for both of them.
Finale la plus dramatique de l'ère Open avec celle de Wimbledon 2019 ! Une blessure à jamais pour McEnroe qui aurait pu devenir un champion encore plus important s'il avait gagné ce match..
I remember this match. Lendl clawed his way back into the match from love-40 on his serve in the third set and went on to win the match in five sets. The final volley that McEnroe missed on match point must still haunt him. It was usually a simple put-away for him. Lendl went on to dominate tennis through the 1980s. Everybody expected him to cave that day; he wasn't considered a tough match player, particularly in the clutch.
Mac was up a break in the 4th when he was still relatively fresh, and had his chances in the 5th, but couldn’t put Lendl away. Have to give him credit. He fought for this one.
I was for Lendl till the end this is the match of my life I stood at tv no stop After that I played tennis against a wall of parking area for weeks imagining me Lendl than Mcnroe shot after shot
The most humble and subdued champion celebration I have ever seen. Not only did he win a slam, but it was his first ever after 4 final losses, yet he just ran to give a quick handshake and immediately sat down! No sobbing on the court. No throwing kisses to the crowd. Not even a single roar! And the press attacking him with mikes in his face immediately and not even giving him a second to breathe? Come on! Unfortunately, McEnroe was the exact opposite of Lendl, acting like a spoiled brat, who couldn't even get himself to clap once when Lendl got the trophy, refused to raise his runner-up prize for the cameras, and then took off the second Lendl finished his (once again) brief humble statement at the end.
Big Mac peaked, Ivan Lendl fought back and would not give in. An epic battle of two legends, a classic for the ages. I saw the match live on tv, it was a nerve wrecker.
The tennis from Mcenroe in the first two sets was the best ive ever seen ( given the era we are looking at ) The way he played on clay was absolute genius. He totally ran out of steam but those first two sets were brilliant.
That was Ivan's strength. He was supremely fit and would just wear his opponents down until their weaknesses used to show and then he would pounce. Ivan was one of the greatest men's tennis players to ever pick up a racket.
@@muzzupappa70 And your point IS exactly? McEnroe and Connors never won the French. Bjorn Borg never won the US or the Australian. But all of them were Number one. And if you knew anything about the slams and rankings, which it is apparent you do not, you would know that ALL FOUR carry the same number of ATP points toward ranking. But thanks for playing, you can pick up your participation trophy and lollipop on the way out.
I was a 13yo kid who had been serious about tennis for a couple yrs and was a huge Lendl fan during this time. Mad Mac was in the middle of his dominance of tennis, so when he sprinted to a 2-0 lead, I was sad and thought about going outside to play…Mac was literally invincible during this era with his revolutionary net game. But I watched a little bit more…then more…and finally some more. It never felt possible that Lendl would win this match despite his comeback - there was the lingering feeling that Mac was simply too good at that time. Even until that last point, it felt like Lendl was always one bad play from doom…but then that last volley by Mac went wide. Nobody in that stadium could believe it…and nobody watching on TV could believe it either. Lendl had broken through with his first major…and beat the invincible Mad Mac after being down 2-0. I was a happy 13yo kid that day…
@@klole7520 oui deux balles de match consécutives en tournoi de grand chlem ca n'est jamai arrivé, coria à rg en 2004 en avait eu une.. ca va hanter Roger toute sa vie non seulement si ce maudit djokovic le dépasse..
Pour moi, c'est "la partie". Le plus grand talent de tous les temps sur le net contre la constance et l'élégance des tirs du fond du court. Ce contraste de styles, la piste à fond rouge est ce qui a rendu ce sport vraiment attrayant. Aujourd'hui, ce jour n'existe malheureusement pas, tant que les chiffres ont été dépassés. Une seule exception: Roger Federer. Et un espagnol le dit.
Lendl's movement on grass was oft-criticized but here on clay he was able to get around quite nimbly getting to many a short ball or drop shot. Conversely, McEnroe's ground strokes were less effective on a slower surface. He played lots of short(er) matches during that tournament losing only the one one set before the final. So it appears somehow if not conditioning but instead pacing or perhaps both made it increasingly a struggle as the match moved beyond the 3rd set. In other words, I think that McEnroe being two sets up and relatively easily said to himself I expect to end this in three and when that didn't happen and the games became longer and longer, it go into his head as to his ability to compete for 4 or more hours.
mingaulen I agree that both of those things should go, especially the towel thing. Good grief with the towels after every point. How is it I can manage to play tennis in much hotter conditions without a towel.
Mac a gagné le match sur 2 sets, mais un GC se joue au meilleur des 3 sets... Lendl a résisté et s'est imposé après 4 h dans un match sensationnel. Néanmoins J.Mc Enroe restera pour beaucoup le plus grand talent de tous les temps, le Mozart du tennis.
Justement un GC se joue au meilleur des 5 sets, pas 3. 1984 restera malgré tout la meilleure année de Mc Enroe, son changement de raquette en 1983 l'a aussi bien aidé (on ne pourra plus dire que Lendl était avantagé avec sa Kneissel bien moins performante que la nouvelle Dunlop de Mc Enroe...)
The difference in pace and power of yesteryears vs today is simply crazy. The improvement in rackets, strings, techniques, strategies and players physique has been incredible. Tennis as a sport has come a long way indeed.
Life is weird. As an hardcore Lendl's fan back then I was damn happy for his first win in a GS final. Nowadays I regret McEnroe didn't catch Paris that year. Just like Edberg in 1989. Because nobody playing such an offensive Tennis ever got so close. Ciao!
@@francoisdelpeuch8527 Well, the dude was a douche no doubt about it. But still going so close to get Paris playing the most offensive Tennis ever....IMHO a pity. Ciao!
@@thebigmonstaandy6644 He did, and in style. Weird thing is Yannick was not considered as offensive as a player as McEnroe/Edberg possibly because of his (not) winning record on grass. Ciao
I watched this match at the time. I wasn't really a Mac fan then but i was supprting him as he was playing winderful tennis... until half way through the third set. Then it was a slow death. I'm sure John still thinks about this match often and sighs, very deeply.
watch the fifth game of final set, two very nice cross court backhands Lendl 3:14:42 & 3:15:54 & the shut up call 3:15:08 and flying racket 3:15:25 McEnroe
The most dramatic final of the Open era with that of Wimbledon 2019! An injury forever for McEnroe who could have become an even more important champion if he had won this match.
I really enjoy the fact that they showed the audience much less, in the old matches, and focused on filming the players.
Yeah, I preferred that too.
I will never tire of watching John's brilliant and effortless volleys.
John was a brilliant tennis player but his on court antics will forever tarnish his reputation. He could be a real asshole.
Like the last choke volley to lose the match? 😂
and his ridiculous outbursts lol
Someone forgot to tell him that you can’t serve and volley on clay
The Maestro.
Epic . Love that there’s no commentary and the match in it’s entirety and in good quality . One for the connoisseur
Was it like that originally or was the commentary simply edited out?
@@kevinthunder3375 There was always commentary and commercials, this is just raw footage Roland Garros uploaded, likely because they can avoid copyright issues that way with broadcasters.
*connaisseur
or booing and screaming crowd.
👌
I miss those matches today!
Serve&Volley vs. baseliner..
The style of modern players has become to similar.
That was the beginning of the end of a legend and a new one was born...
Incredible the density of spectators in the stands. There wasn't a place left. At the time I was a child, it was broadcast on one of the 3 public television channels in France. That Sunday, the audience was monumental.
Lendl was like a heavyweight fighter. The longer the match went the better he got. You had to knock him out. When McEnroe lost the fourth set, he knew it was slipping away. Great match.
What a match! Two all time greats and a fantastic rivalry. One of the greatest and most consequential matches in tennis history.
I'm 48 now, and STILL remember watching this as a boy at 3am in my Sydney home!
Me too, in my home nothern of Germany… i‘ m 49 now. 🥲
I was 16 and I idolized McEnroe. This match still breaks my heart. Those magnificent first two sets and then pure torture. Darn you, Lendl! So easy to contemplate the ifs after the fact, but McEnroe completely routed Connors at Wimbledon and nearly the same to Lendl at the U.S. Open. He could've had the Grand Slam in his wheelhouse if it wasn't for.....Lendl! :) Great match. Thank you for the video.
Mac the knife and Ivan the terrible!!!
I was 9 at the time. I still occasionally rewatch it because o hated the rude and arrogant McEnroe. His sadness tastes so sweet even today, as he has indicated in interviews that he never got over it. And all that from two sets up, against an opponent who he was very dismissive about (“I have more talent in one finger than Lendl in his entire being”). Ahhh…!
38 years and rewatching this match still causes pain!! I admire Lendl much more now than I did then. The guy worked his tail off to maximize the talent he had. That is incredibly admirable and I'm a fan of his now. Having said that, McEnroe played so astonishingly brilliant and then threw the match away. I had never seen all-court and serve and volley work like that on Roland Garros' slow red clay. And the clay was slower back then than it is now. To top it off, Mac was doing it against Ivan Lendl's massive power and consistency.
McEnroe's failure to work as hard as Lendl, Borg, Connors, etc. started to bite him in the 3rd set , began to haunt him in set 4 and tortured him in the 5th set. Very sad and difficult to watch. Lendl was a great player due to being so intelligent about training and working hard, maybe even better than McEnroe. Their overall head to head record suggests that. However, on this day, before fatigue set in, John McEnroe was producing other worldly tennis on clay court's highest stage. Never seen tennis like that before on red clay! Were it not for temper outbursts that motivated Lendl and Mac's poor relative fitness to his opponent, he should have demolished Lendl in straight sets. It was almost unbelievable to see what he was doing to Lendl's game in the 1st 2.5 sets. The tennis was that superb. Considering the greatness of the opponent, I never saw serve and volley played like that again on slow red clay.
There is certainly a life lesson for all athletes in this example........ work hard and shut your mouth:)
He also missed WAY to many first serves the longer into the match we got.
So true. That same shortcoming on fitness/conditioning cost him the 1980
Wimbledon final against Borg.
WRONG . McEnroe didnt throw the match away , Lendl WON the match because he was THE BETTER PLAYER on clay in general and THE BETTER PLAYER on clay that day . Beside this, McEnroe playing the double allowed him to be much more than simply fit to play 5 sets tennis the way he used to play , MC ENROE WAS FIT ENOUGH
@@jimred5700 B U L L S H I T
@@andreasmissiroli just your opinion.
Although he lost, there is nothing like seeing Johny Mac in his prime. That serve and volley just so amazing
I agree, and the match I could have gone either way.
Sucks for John...up two sets and a break in the third...so close to winning it in straight sets.
@@russellfrancis6294 McEnroe was up two sets and a break in the third...he should have won.
@@russellfrancis6294 W RO N G ...there is a reason why Lendl won all the 3 matches they palyed in Paris FO
@@andreasmissiroli lack of training by Mac. Nothing more
Legendary Roland-Garros final !!! I still remember watching it on tv at a warm June day in Athens 38 years ago :-)
36 years ago today. Tennis sure was a different sport then. Thank you for the upload.
I wish it was still played like this...
@@patoconnor9600 It was a unique time in tennis history, with so many exciting players and naturally gifted artists around. Nastase, Connors, Borg, McEnroe, Mecir, Leconte, Edberg, Becker, Noah, Wilander, Cash, Korda, Stich..
I love and respect the tennis that's been playing in our days. It's different but the same ,awesome, sport!
Verdade
Yes, somehow now it looks funny compared to todays atomic tennis
Lendl taught McEnroe a lesson and then went on to become a coach to teach others so many lessons. Ivan, I so respect you for it!
What lesson did he teach McEnroe? "Don't beat yourself"?
Une leçon lol
You're really incompetent...Lessons of what? McEnroe won Wimbledon and Flushing Meadows after that match..
The match that changed the trajectory of two careers! One of the greatest matches of all time.
To me, this and the 1984 US Open semifinal between McEnroe and Connors are the two best matches I have ever watched.
I´m still sad for John, but on the other hand I´m grateful for the incredible match they both gave us that day.
@@fundhund62 yeah, exactly! But I feel McEnroe got somewhat of a revenge in that year's us open finals. Also, this match gave lendl much needed confidence as he went on to become one of the all time greats!
John is not only a player legend but also a showman.
I don't know, man. McEnroe won the next 2 slams and Ivan didn't win again until a year and 3 mos later.
Mac went all blue...
Lendl had lost all four of his grand slam finals thus far. McEnroe was world number 1 and playing the best tennis of his career. When he went two sets up quite easily I bet nobody gave Lendl a chance.
They probably gave him more of a chance than they gave Nadal to come back from two sets and a break down to beat Medvedev.
What? He never won the final??🤔😳
I and my father knew Lendl was able to win this incredible match
@@johnrainmcmanus6319 no..Nadal had more chance to come back..
The odds must have been huge to come back from there.. like X20 😁😄😆😆
Deep, sincere gratitude that this was posted, in this format, that is, the entire thing. Given the epic, seminal nature of this match, I have to note the generosity in that and thank you. This has turned out to be the treat of this mid-summer. Like many who have replied here, just the deepest of memories and impressions about this taut, compelling match. Would have been 30 at the time, but felt very much the young person in understanding what was happening, being somewhat new to tennis. Very impressionable, in other words, but sensing even then the this was a major clash. Lastly, to give a sense of how epic an encounter this was, for simply too, too many reasons to capture here, this match became the subject, the context for a really entertaining sports film called In the Realm of Perfection, which plums the considerable depths to all that was going on over these nearly four hours. Kind of an Art House treatment, but still very much a sports movie. A hearty recommend.
McEnroe went 82-3 in that season. This was his first loss of the year.
And if I remember correctly he voluntarily lost to some Indian dude during some summer US tournament only to have better rest for the upcoming US Open. At least he said so in an interview few years later. Ciao!
@@Stiffjab71 I mean he was unbeatable here for two sets. He also skipped the Australian Open, which was common among top players because back then it was held during the Christmas season. Chris Evert only attended the AO 6 times in her long career (but reached the final every time, winning twice). It's a really different game now. Federer's best season ratio was 81-4 and that wasn't even his best season.
@@Atombender Yes Alex, trust me that's agreed
@@Stiffjab71 Interesting, I remember that loss. It was to Vijay Armitraj (actor in Octopussy) at the ATP in Cincinnati inAugust, I forget which round. I recall thinking WTF??
@@patoconnor9600 yup, back then that was the feeling wasn't it? 😸
Sin duda la mejor final de Roland Garros que he visto en mi vida y he visto mas de 40. Geniales Ivan Lendl y John McEnroe . Bravo 👏👏👏👏👏
muy pobre lo de mcenroe.........hoy no podria estar ni entre los 1000 primeros del ranking jugando como una gorda, en cambio lend estaria entre los top ten seguro
Esta final fue larga pero no de gran calidad salvo por lo que aporta Lend.
Por dios!!
Cómo vas a comparar cualquiera de estos 2 jugadores sobre todo en tierra con Nadal o Djokovic??
Yo también he visto estos partidos y la diferencia es abismal evidentemente en favor de Nadal y Djokovic.
I remember this... Lendl was my favorite player in that era. He was really the only player that had the passing shot for Mac. But Mac was supreme at the net as well.
13:15. This is why these matches will never die. Look at the volley...and then look at that pass.
Thank you for posting this, one of the greatest tennis matches ever. I remember watching the NBC broadcast of this so well. To this day I cannot figure out how Johnny Mac let this one slip away after toying with Lendl in the first two sets, and by playing serve and volley on clay. People I knew who weren't even into tennis were talking about this match the following week.
I think McEnroe was winning. He lost his energy. He "gassed out", in modern terms.
I was wanting for John McEnroe to win. He had all the artistry.
Lendl and Borg , and even Connors had far more endurance for longer matches.
Mac was winning. Lendl was an endurance athlete, like Borg. Mac gassed out.
I wanted Mac to win!
Paris can get quite warm during the
FO, and players that are not used to the heat, or going 5 sets on clay (common), or not in top shape, suffer.
@@antonboludo8886 You"re all wrong! You have no idea, Lendl was predestined to win an era of 6-7 titles, in Roland Garos!
Lendl's problem was his head! In an earlier Grand Slam final against Conners, after a clear 2 to 0 set lead, with the title in sight, he suddenly served from underneath and lost that final! This Head weakness was also visible against Chang! For Lendl, who had already been world champion 5 times by then, it was a milestone, because when he was seemingly hopelessly behind, he was finally able to play free and look at Becker, Sampras, Paris has never been the home of serve and volley players! If Lendl hadn't had this head problem, this wouldn't have been his first title, but 4-8! You could always see this in Wimbledon, easy in Queens (even with serve and volley) and the day after, bad in Wimbledon!
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@@katercasimir6423 Yes, Lendl had problems with mental toughness, but he was also extremely fit.
Mcenroe’s game was amazing. Looks like his serve motion was very continuous (following years became slower) great volley. Love watching his game from the back, he stood so close to baseline , absorbed opponent’s power with great slice and his change of rythm jumping to the net with such audacity is truly unique. He was in very good shape . Those first two sets are remarkable and hace not seen such a dominant aggressive creative and graceful game in any other player. A Bob Dylan of tennis
Yet he choked and lost.
He was at his peak here. He went 82-3 that year and yes, his game was so seductive. The grace and beauty of his serve and the impossibly crisp volleys (done all totally against the way it’s taught)...he was a maestro of the highest order.
@@joeschmoe8264 True. The year after this game for John was probably his best.
THIS IS PUSSY TENNIS AND HE PLAYED LIKE A PUSSY, LIKE FIVE FOOT SIX BOB DYLAN, COMPARE THIS CRAP TO NADAL AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN WEARING SKIRTS
What has Dylan ever done that was great?
I found it weird at the end when Lendl went to his chair without even walking back onto court to receive more applause, and was instantly rushed by the press. I’m glad that doesn’t happen any more, give the man a moment at least to drink and savour his achievement.
Exact ly
Fucking weird
yeah that was super painful to watch!
Cette finale devrait être remasterisée en 4K, elle le mérite !
Mis à par envoyer dans le temps une caméra 4K...
Mac the knife at his peak in 1984. He went 84-3 that year, winning US Open and Wimbledon. Just couldn't finish off Lendl in that third set. He kept charging to the bitter end. Great stuff.
Actually mac went 82-3 that year.
Mcenroe's toughest loss of his career, by far.
And Connors in 82 at Wimbledon. No business losing to him on grass
@@jeffreybeshears8211 Not sure about that. He has a losing record Jimmy on grass.
@@jeffreybeshears8211 Cocaine is a helluva drug.
@Mr Shread No, it's not. This one was the toughest. Read his book "Serious".
@Mr Shread Probably not as the truth is he was nowhere near Borg in the 5th...although that was yes, after having 0-30 on Borg's serve in game 1.
From there Borg never lost a point on his own serve.
Thank you, Roland Garros, for this. Been waiting long! 👍
I used to check every year or two... from the birth of internet :)
The best final at Roland Garros in the history of the tournament.
God ! Here stand the greatest mach of the open era !
Mcenroe at his peak even more agnificent on clay...
The day Lendl won even more than his first main title ... he won full deep respect .
The end of the richest tennis period, before changes turned tennis in a more powerfull game.
Thank you gentlemen :)
I don't think that anyone watching this match would have thought that they had in Ivan Lendl the blueprint for what tennis would become in the ensuing 40 years. The killer forehand, the oversized metal racquet, the emphasis on fitness and the marketing (flashy apparel with ads ), all of it in one single package in a guy with little on-court personality.
@@Azabaxe80 yes some turning point.
"on-court" only , in some way, maybe too clever to perform more.
@@antoinev9733 Dude was on Letterman way back when and he was warm and genuinely funny. Surprised the heck out of me.
@@Azabaxe80 Lendle's Adidas was 75 square inches.
1984 was the year McEnroe took tennis to a new level. Just shows how good Lendl was to beat him.
He certainly did - his demolition of Jimmy Conners in the Wimbledon final that year was incredible
Thank you so much for posting this. This match was so influential for me at a young age. Love what you do. Thanks :)
surprise totalement scotchée....un grand merci pour ce replay..merveilleux de voir et vivre du tennis tel que sans la diversion de commentateurs juste le sport juste l'arbitre et les spectateurs...
McEnroe was best serve and volley player.Ivan Lendl was the best baseliner.They played many finals.Initially McEnroe was dominating (from 1981-1984).Afterwards (1985-1988) Lendl mastered McEnroe.Both are all time greats.
from 1981 to 1983, Lendl beat McEnroe SEVEN straight times...
How the f*ck does this get 28 thumbs up? As Uncle Tony correctly says: Lendl beat McEnroe seven times in a row from 81 to 83. JUST GOOGLE IT! And - ffs - all you thumbsuppers - DO YOUR OWN FACT-CHECKING!
@@danguee1 not only 7 straight matches but also NINETEEN out of 20 sets.
@@uncletony6210 Well, Uncle Tony, for (now) 30 thumbs-uppers, that's way too much contrary fact to get in the way of a good story....
Latest score: story 30, truth 1
I love how with this version you hear everything the players say.
...and the press. Check out the female reporter at the very end. Lol.
@@DenianArcoleo Get back to playing the guitar, boy
@@thadtuiol1717 While you get back to pulling the legs off spiders.
After so many consecutive losses against McEnroe, including some on clay, Lendl showed a lot of character to continue fighting when he trailed badly. McEnroe in 1984 had no problems handling Ivan's groundstrokes. Lendl needed his whole arsenal, including quite a few outstanding lobs, to get through this match. It was quite a physical test too. I wouldn't normally mention a chair umpire, but I thought he did a great job of controlling the crowd. He was right to refuse to check marks too.
why was he right in refusing?? I thought it was abismal...if they marked them he should get down and check, by all means.
Two of the all-time greats!
he reached his peak in 1984 then it was never the same after that,
He turned pro in 1978. So after 6 years it's all down hill, I disagree.
@@keepitsports236 he never made a major after 85 us open BBC did a documentary and the singer siad Mac was a pot head loved his marijuana
In a recent awesome (2018?) televised get together with Wilander, Lendl, Becker, and McEnrone, that was said by one of the others and McEnroe quickly agreed.
McEnroe's 1984 win-loss record was 82-3, so there was no where to go but downhill. But yeah.... it was a steeper downhill than it should have been (and that's when I started to lose interest in watching tennis).
@@brianv5677 read Mac's book His mother pushed him and also the money, Totally different than Jimmy Connors His career lasted longer Mac was marijuana user and was called a pot head by Chrissie Hynde ( see BBC documentary) He is edgy off court too. Connors is a very humble man off court, having met them both I was a Mac fan yet Connors I would rather have a drink with,
1984, McEnroe was like from another planet. Lost only like 3 matches entire year, and before the final already won 42 straight. Lendl, on the other hand was already in a couple slam finals and even reached No.1, but by this point, he had reputation for being a choker and lost a slam final he should won (US open 1983 against Connors
He had lost 4 slam finals before this
@@kunalsandilya6034 yep, lost 4 slam finals then won his first, same as Andy Murray who he coached.
Imagine being an up and coming tennis star and having to break through Borg-Connors-McEnroe...LOL.
Daniel Kriz absolutely nothing compared to breaking through Roger, Novak and Rafa.. That we still haven’t had a male GS champ born in the 90’s says it all.
@@TheSportfane 😂😂😂
Match never gets old.
John McEnroe played the best Tennis I have ever seen.
And I was a Bjorn Borg fan.
U haven’t seen much tennis then
@@minoX6 Or perhaps you are young enough that you didn't see the era McEnroe played in where they used heavy tree branches, steel and aluminum to hit a tennis ball, with small heads on the racquet producing a tiny sweet spot and inferior strings.😎
Today's technology is so much better, lighter, and more accurate. The players can swing a racquet that's much lighter, has a huge sweet spot to produce a powerful stroke almost everywhere the ball hits on the racket, and strings that impart crazy amounts of spin that Force the ball to land in many times.
None of this was easily attainable in the wooden racquet era. Especially the spin and the power.
Add to that the fact that Roland Garros was slower prior to the mid-90s. Wimbledon, on the other hand, played much faster in McEnroe, Lendl, Borg era. The ball wouldn't bounce high (stayed low) and the bounce was very inconsistent due to the type of grass that they traditionally used.
Now in this match, McEnroe had switched to a composite racquet the year before, but tennis was still very much in its traditional phase and the string technology still wasn't there. The racket he was using, while better than wood, does not compare to today's rackets in the least.
And that my friend, is the rest of the story :-)
@@alexestrada1788 I agree with everything you said I just hated his guts he used to moan all the time and complain about everything and everyone. He was like a child and like to be the center of attention. He still has that attitude working for the bbc
Lendl was better than him that's why he beat him. End of the debate.
"Congratulations, it's the first time you've won the Grand Slam here in Paris, your first Grand Slam victory!"
"It's correct."
Classic Ivan Lends.
Questions about obvious things...
@@marianskodowski8337 It wasn't a question, it was an idiotic statement. Lendl gave it the contempt it deserved.
A woman also said sth like 'fucked it up' just before he says 'that's correct'
😄
"That's correct!"
@@thadtuiol1717 so congratulating someone deserves contempt? You must be fun at parties.
As far as I´m concerned, those were the times!
This match was epic. One of the best ever. overcoming 2 set down when facing McEnroe not an easy task.
That 1984 McEnroe, moreover!
on clay its not
@@richfaulkner1527 I am a Lendl fan all the way But McEnroe on 1984 was unstoppable. During the first 2 sets of the FO he dominated Ivan on his favorite surface. John won 4 tournaments in clay and was able to beat Ivan twice in clay. Great times for tennis.
@@ShakaZuluX but they met 3 times in Paris FO and Lendl won all the 3
1981 quarters and 1988 4th round were their other 2 matches at French Opens, so this was their 2nd clash, and what a great match this was, the year before Lendl finally won the US Open in 1985.
3:55:25 is the moment I'll always remember. Mcenroe with his head down while Ivan hoists the trophy. The absolute devastation in that moment was unreal.
McEnroe knew he had let a nothing win.
@@fjccommish a fools comment
Selfish person spot in bro when you win you win and celebrate when you lose celebrate the others victory life is like that
@@fjccommish i dont know Ivan did go on to win 8 slams to Mcenroe's 7
@@Kalgon1 Ivan didn't get addicted to coke like John did.
Le plus beau et le plus grand match sur terre battue de tous le temps et du très pur MCENROE un Must ...
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Here is some stats. For this 1984 tournament the top seven seeds filled 7 of the 8 quarter-final positions. And 8 of the top 9 seeds filled the quarter-final positions. The top 4 seeds filled the semi-final positions. The 2 top seeds played the final. And it was the same 4 semi-finalists for both 1984 and 1985.
Très bonne initiative ! Probablement la plus belle finale de tous les temps J'espère que le match sera en entier
Oh oui c'est vraiment la plus belle finale de Roland Garros de tte l'histoire de ce tournoi..Ivan Lendl héroïque, fut de tte manière très solide durant cette quinzaine pluvieuse et maussade, sur cette terre battue plus lente que jamais..le tchécoslovaque avait notamment écarté avec beaucoup de brio, Jarryd, Gomez et surtout Wilander, complètement surclassé en demi-finale...McEnroe fut solide, à défaut d'être brillant, face à Higueras, Arias,et Connors..big mac retrouvera tte sa magie durant deux sets et demi, mais Ivan le Terrible fit prendre d'un courage et d'une résistance physique à tte épreuve pour finalement remporter la Coupe des Mousquetaires....le tchécoslovaque paiera physiquement sa formidable épopée parisienne même si Lendl atteindra le demi-finales à wimbledon face à Connors..en juillet 84,chez lui à hradec kralove, sur sa surface favorite ( suprême en indoor),Lendl fut surclassé par un Leconte époustouflant, en quart de finale de Coupe Davis..il atteindra à nouveau la finale de l'USOPEN pour y être exécuté par un McEnroe au sommet de son art..il faudra attendre le printemps 85,pour retrouver un Lendl plus menaçant que jamais pour McEnroe..
Please speak American.
J K English
Terry Margetson We speak American in the USA.
Jolann It’s all the same when the countries are ten square feet in size and everyone is related.
One of my favourite tennis players when I was a child. This brings back memories of my love for the game.
" God damn you!" McEnroe yelling at himself after sailing a backhand long , at 4-4 in the 3rd set. The beginning of the end.
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Le touché de balle de McEnroe est phénoménale dans ce match.
Je confirme nous étions Fan de McEnroe c'est grâce à lui que j'ai fait dû tennis🎾🎾
le tennis était encore un sport de "touché" il a disparu.
comme la Coupe Davis d'ailleurs
toujours, non seulement dans ce match
The only real blip on arguably the best men's tennis season of all time. As great as Djoker was last year, the competition isn't as still for the era as Mac's was in 1984 with Lendl, Connors, Edberg, Wilander, Noah, etc all still playing at a high level near their primes.
Nah.
I agree
the over-development of technology makes everything less democratic, and this is also true for tennis - the difference between the top players and the rest is much bigger now, exactly as it is the difference among the rich and the poor. I'm not being nostalgic, it's just facts: you want as much comfort as possibile, and as high a technology as possibile, then you you get it, and you lose freedom and equality.
Like the old style trophy presentation. Hope it return.
If Lendl were given today’s raquet technology, he’d be a monster…Well, He’d be a monster in any given era…. McEnroe is one the all time most gifted players ever…
So would Borg,Connors etc
Mac is the most gifted by far
@@muzzupappa70 Edberg.
@@7b5Cm Edberg and Laver are the 2nd tied best serve and volley players after McEnroe. They didn't have his hand anyway
@@muzzupappa70 oN this I also agree.,.. If you check the pundits comments US OPEN some years ago (Lendl McEnroe Wilander Becker) -Lendl is saying MCEnroe was certainly the better player on net , nobody could hit such natural angles as MCEnroe could ...but 1984 final FO Paris Lendl was the better player on a clay court than McEnroe , MCEnroe couldnt have won against Lendl for any reason that day - there is a reason why Lendl won all the 3 matches they played in Paris FO
Thanks for posting. Had not seen it since it aired in 1984. No instant replays!
John's netplay was a class of act
I like how they switch camera from a winning, awkwardly answering questions Lendl, to McEnroe, who sat on his chair, desapately holding his head after the tough loss.
Yes, and then just after that you see Mac stumble and Lendl nearly barf out the contents of that recently drunk water. It was a grueling match for both of them.
Finale la plus dramatique de l'ère Open avec celle de Wimbledon 2019 ! Une blessure à jamais pour McEnroe qui aurait pu devenir un champion encore plus important s'il avait gagné ce match..
Oh oui McEnroe serait devenu encore plus fort pour la suite de sa saison...sa confiance plus importante que jamais..
I was a lil chap when I saw this match. I always loved lendl and becker. Those two were my favorites growing up.
I remember this match. Lendl clawed his way back into the match from love-40 on his serve in the third set and went on to win the match in five sets. The final volley that McEnroe missed on match point must still haunt him. It was usually a simple put-away for him. Lendl went on to dominate tennis through the 1980s. Everybody expected him to cave that day; he wasn't considered a tough match player, particularly in the clutch.
"Lendl went on to dominate tennis through the 1980s"
You mean until Becker came along and beat him in almost every match.
@@bierundkippen720 Becker was great and has beaten Lendl many times but head to head, Lendl has beaten Becker more
@@AntisocialSka1 Not in Grand Slam matches, I‘m sorry.
@Sleepy Joe You can’t speak German. So, don’t try it. And yes, of course Becker dominated. Get your facts right, bro.
@Sleepy Joe "because Germans lost"
What are you refering to?
"Becker is getting dominated in prison lol."
Might be true.
Mac enroe champion du monde 81 ,83 ,84 et Lendl 85,86 87,les deux joueurs les plus titrés de la décennie 80/90
Mac was up a break in the 4th when he was still relatively fresh, and had his chances in the 5th, but couldn’t put Lendl away. Have to give him credit. He fought for this one.
the day Ivan refused to be his dog ;)
I was for Lendl till the end this is the match of my life I stood at tv no stop After that I played tennis against a wall of parking area for weeks imagining me Lendl than Mcnroe shot after shot
The most humble and subdued champion celebration I have ever seen. Not only did he win a slam, but it was his first ever after 4 final losses, yet he just ran to give a quick handshake and immediately sat down! No sobbing on the court. No throwing kisses to the crowd. Not even a single roar! And the press attacking him with mikes in his face immediately and not even giving him a second to breathe? Come on!
Unfortunately, McEnroe was the exact opposite of Lendl, acting like a spoiled brat, who couldn't even get himself to clap once when Lendl got the trophy, refused to raise his runner-up prize for the cameras, and then took off the second Lendl finished his (once again) brief humble statement at the end.
Thank you, Leo, for expressing everything I would like to have expressed about McEnroe. You put it so well. Totally agree.
John mcenroe without training or ever a coach was the GOAT FOR 5 MAGIC YEARS!
Big Mac peaked, Ivan Lendl fought back and would not give in. An epic battle of two legends, a classic for the ages. I saw the match live on tv, it was a nerve wrecker.
Sometimes I had feeling that McEnroe played against himself.
Just like Federer at times...
What is going on? Roland Garros are on an absolute roll!! Brilliant job!!
The tennis from Mcenroe in the first two sets was the best ive ever seen ( given the era we are looking at ) The way he played on clay was absolute genius. He totally ran out of steam but those first two sets were brilliant.
Yip he should have had the game sown up .The DEMONS got him.
@@thebobbysisters Rafa is a caveman with a club...
That was Ivan's strength. He was supremely fit and would just wear his opponents down until their weaknesses used to show and then he would pounce. Ivan was one of the greatest men's tennis players to ever pick up a racket.
@@stevehammond9156 Lendl never won Wimbledon that is the Temple of Tennis, not a simple "slam"
@@muzzupappa70 And your point IS exactly? McEnroe and Connors never won the French. Bjorn Borg never won the US or the Australian. But all of them were Number one. And if you knew anything about the slams and rankings, which it is apparent you do not, you would know that ALL FOUR carry the same number of ATP points toward ranking. But thanks for playing, you can pick up your participation trophy and lollipop on the way out.
I was a 13yo kid who had been serious about tennis for a couple yrs and was a huge Lendl fan during this time. Mad Mac was in the middle of his dominance of tennis, so when he sprinted to a 2-0 lead, I was sad and thought about going outside to play…Mac was literally invincible during this era with his revolutionary net game.
But I watched a little bit more…then more…and finally some more. It never felt possible that Lendl would win this match despite his comeback - there was the lingering feeling that Mac was simply too good at that time.
Even until that last point, it felt like Lendl was always one bad play from doom…but then that last volley by Mac went wide.
Nobody in that stadium could believe it…and nobody watching on TV could believe it either. Lendl had broken through with his first major…and beat the invincible Mad Mac after being down 2-0.
I was a happy 13yo kid that day…
j'avais 17 ans à l'époque et je ne m'en suis toujours pas remis... Mac devait gagner ce match en 3 sets..
je n'ai pas connu mais je pense que le match de federer à Wimbledon on en reparlera comme celui-là encore très très longtemps
@@klole7520 oui deux balles de match consécutives en tournoi de grand chlem ca n'est jamai arrivé, coria à rg en 2004 en avait eu une.. ca va hanter Roger toute sa vie non seulement si ce maudit djokovic le dépasse..
je précise en finale de grans chlem
oui il risque fortement de perdre son record à cause de ce match, c'est bien dommage
@@klole7520 sans copter les deux demi à l'us open , là aussi balles de match 2010 et 2011..
Ah, those were the days! Those super short, super tight shorts! What a time it was!
Pour moi, c'est "la partie". Le plus grand talent de tous les temps sur le net contre la constance et l'élégance des tirs du fond du court.
Ce contraste de styles, la piste à fond rouge est ce qui a rendu ce sport vraiment attrayant.
Aujourd'hui, ce jour n'existe malheureusement pas, tant que les chiffres ont été dépassés. Une seule exception: Roger Federer. Et un espagnol le dit.
Well said. Lendl baseline play is unmatched til this today...
Thanks RG
One of best game ever
46:38 Lendl fh
1:12:43 Mcenroe bh
1:24:38 Lendl bh
i was very happy to watch this beautiful match that day in tv
John was playing mind blowingly well too. On clay as a serve and vollier! Unreal Almost looked like a sweep that day on NBC channel 4 lol
Lendl's movement on grass was oft-criticized but here on clay he was able to get around quite nimbly getting to many a short ball or drop shot. Conversely, McEnroe's ground strokes were less effective on a slower surface. He played lots of short(er) matches during that tournament losing only the one one set before the final. So it appears somehow if not conditioning but instead pacing or perhaps both made it increasingly a struggle as the match moved beyond the 3rd set. In other words, I think that McEnroe being two sets up and relatively easily said to himself I expect to end this in three and when that didn't happen and the games became longer and longer, it go into his head as to his ability to compete for 4 or more hours.
Quel match !!! Un pur moment de bonheur ❤️
Surtout les 2 premiers sets.
Un pur moment de désarroi pour Mac
@@stephlizee3938 non le désarroi ... c'est après .
A match of a Century
Omg .. crowd is so disciplined when the point is on play ..
No towels on court, no giving back tennisballs to the ballboys. Good old times
They must stop that shit. It make ppl stop watch tennis
mingaulen I agree that both of those things should go, especially the towel thing. Good grief with the towels after every point. How is it I can manage to play tennis in much hotter conditions without a towel.
LOOOOOL! xD
I had a girlfriend who was a ballgirl! LOOOOOL! xD
@@stones8484 When was the golden age of tennis for you?
El partido clave de Ivan para quedar en la historia del tenis
Wonderful quality, thank you for sharing. Not slow as we would have imagined
Mac a gagné le match sur 2 sets, mais un GC se joue au meilleur des 3 sets... Lendl a résisté et s'est imposé après 4 h dans un match sensationnel. Néanmoins J.Mc Enroe restera pour beaucoup le plus grand talent de tous les temps, le Mozart du tennis.
Justement un GC se joue au meilleur des 5 sets, pas 3. 1984 restera malgré tout la meilleure année de Mc Enroe, son changement de raquette en 1983 l'a aussi bien aidé (on ne pourra plus dire que Lendl était avantagé avec sa Kneissel bien moins performante que la nouvelle Dunlop de Mc Enroe...)
@@karkyb presque le début de la guerre du matos :)
Nearly forty years on and this match still gives McEnroe nightmares.
The difference in pace and power of yesteryears vs today is simply crazy. The improvement in rackets, strings, techniques, strategies and players physique has been incredible. Tennis as a sport has come a long way indeed.
Check out the difference in sounds when they hit. Lose vs tight stringing
Life is weird. As an hardcore Lendl's fan back then I was damn happy for his first win in a GS final. Nowadays I regret McEnroe didn't catch Paris that year. Just like Edberg in 1989. Because nobody playing such an offensive Tennis ever got so close. Ciao!
Edberg losing against Chang... what a disgrace, yes. Mac against a Lendl reaching his first GS, no, in any respect.
@@francoisdelpeuch8527 Well, the dude was a douche no doubt about it. But still going so close to get Paris playing the most offensive Tennis ever....IMHO a pity. Ciao!
Noah played serve and volley and won.or?
@@thebigmonstaandy6644 He did, and in style. Weird thing is Yannick was not considered as offensive as a player as McEnroe/Edberg possibly because of his (not) winning record on grass. Ciao
I watched this match at the time. I wasn't really a Mac fan then but i was supprting him as he was playing winderful tennis... until half way through the third set. Then it was a slow death. I'm sure John still thinks about this match often and sighs, very deeply.
Dos leyendas del tenis 🎾, Adoro este deporte, el mal genio de Mc 🤬con sus increíbles golpes pero me encanta el revés y juego de Ivan .. lovint
watch the fifth game of final set, two very nice cross court backhands Lendl 3:14:42 & 3:15:54 & the shut up call 3:15:08 and flying racket 3:15:25 McEnroe
The most dramatic final of the Open era with that of Wimbledon 2019! An injury forever for McEnroe who could have become an even more important champion if he had won this match.
Le temps où l'on pouvait jouer à Roland en montant au filet... le rêve
Fantastic match. If Mcenroe had won this, he would now be considered in the top five greatest. Now l place him #10.
Ha...I got him as such
Fed
Sampras
Nadal
Borg
Novack
Laver
Agassi
McEnroe
Lendl
Connors
They didn't play Australian opens back in the day...Mc could have won the slam in 84 and finished w 11 or 12 majors...
@@robbie192 Same for Agassi.But never ever is Sampras better than Djokovic or Laver
Lendl won 2 sets down and trailing 2-4 in the fourth set and when on to win the match. That's is the class of a quality player
Amazing watching tennis without having to listen to pundits - marvellous.
All sport would be better without pundits and commentators!
Getting to watch McEnroe instead of having to listen to him.
@@matthewturner2803 should definitely be an option to watch without, Petchey can't shut up.
so agree. would love to have choice to shut out the blah, blah, blah
I never get tired of watching Lendl beat McEnroe. Lendl > Mac, 8 GS vs 7 GS titles.
who's playing serve and volley on clay, in 2022?
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