Is Lendl to McEnroe a bigger leap than McEnroe to Borg and Borg to Vilas? Or do you consider Lendl in the same "modern" category like Becker, Agassi, Sampras, and maybe only make a new category for Federer, Nadal, Djokovic? Not arguing, just curious about your perspective, 30 years is a wide range
@@anonymous4711_ In my opinion, Lendl has the characteristics of the modern player, due to his style of play, which is what most resembles how it is played today and also due to his technique, I am not saying that he uses the refined mechanics that players have today thanks to technologies but he laid the foundations of the technique that we know today. We must also consider that with his style of play he achieved great achievements compared to the serve and volley style of those years.
@@anonymous4711_He was definitely a guy who pushed the tennis little bit further. Just look at his groundstrokes: topspin from both sides, forehand using wrist and compare to flat strokes of McEnroe typical for the era before. Lendl was also one of the first players to take care of physical condition including diet and took the training and preparation to the more professional level as we know it now.
Lendl was the reason I abandoned watching and playing tennis. This guy made me sleep in each time when he met another "prototype". They killed the artists, luckily, without being rotten out, and some start to emerge again. Players like Lendl hold a hammer in their hand, while players like McEnroe hold a drumstick. Workers against Musicians..
McEnroe for sure one of the best hand-eye coordination of all time. I was a big fan, so were almost all my peers that picket up tennis around 1980. He showed us that tennis is creative, beautiful and emotional. And, of course, he cursed and threw raquets even more than we already did. Our moms hated his demeanor, our dads still turned on the tv when he played. I guess everyone has to find a valve for their emotions. Today i think, his behavior lost him some matches and was very disrespectful many times. But still like to watch his matches. Good old days. I grew up with him, as a teenage fan. And even played the dunlop 200g, which was way to heavy for a small junior, of course.
People miss the equipment factor. This is graphite racquet with normal strings and small in size some 80-85 sq inch. Current raquets are much bigger in isize 15-20% bigger and poly strings that add more top spin. Lots of shots played with current raquets can never be played with old raquets. Instead calling players from previous ers as inferior,people should ask how current players can play with these old raquets and still be able to play those top spin and win consistently. Those raquets used by John and Lendl require pure skill to opeate. Birg used much heavier wooden raquets to win 6 FO.
Ain't that the truth !! I used to think that modern or current eras in tennis - particularly the big 3 era - were unequal d in terms of skills & greatness. But not now. I challenge anyone who doesn't believe ; put any of the big three back in , say the 90 , s era - which was particularly strong , put them back up against the best of that period using the SAME equipment and resources - they would not could not reach 20 slams or more each - no way.
@@brunsbruns2377 Alcaraz literally folded the minute someone (Dimitrov) gave him some variety. What do you think would happen if he faced Edberg or McEnroe? He'd be lost.
@@brunsbruns2377The courts are more consistent and standardized now...the higher bounce enables playing from behind the baseline...there was a reason players with two-handed backhands were rarely successful at Wimbledon for instance as the low ball was difficult to deal with and you would need to get down low to play...now the game is waist and shoulder height everywhere...modern players are like machines requiring consistent pace and bounce but they would find it tough to play on inconsistent surfaces where more reflexes oriented technique is required and they would have to change the way the play...
I'm from city where Lendl was born and played as junior. His childhood was similar to chess players Polgars sisters. Only tennis. I will be number one. Trained hard and after ten years of such hard training he took big dividends.
Unique and unrepeatable show in the history of world tennis, the elegance, class and effectiveness of John Mc Enroe's shots who expressed the best tennis of all time on clay against the solidity, regularity and baseline shots of Ivan Lendl gave life to the most beautiful final in the history of world tennis, the last example of how beautiful classic tennis could be to see and enjoy at a correct and acceptable ball speed which should always have been the one to make the matches wonderful but then 'revolution and technology have ruined one of the most beautiful individual sports in the world with super-light materials where the only thing that matters is hitting the ball in an exasperated way to wear down the opponent's resistance with endless baseline dribbles and to open up the field to score points and win the exchanges this match can be considered in all respects the conclusion of the classic and genuine tennis of the past which gave shivers to the spectators, after which other techniques of hitting the ball took over which revolutionized the world of tennis, making it mechanical and powerful.
People who don't know much of.the history of tennis are quick to say roger is the most talented player ever. No sorry Johnny Mac is by far the most talented player to ever pick up a racket.
@@tennisfan599McEnroe was an unorthodox genius, no question, but Laver is certainly in the equation for the most complete player to have played the game.
I was a huge Lendl fan and wore his Adidas shirts when I played tennis growing up. They should bring back some of the iconic ones like the argyle shirts he wore in this match. Having said that, the shirts I really wish they could bring back are Mad Mac’s equally iconic Sergio Tacchini shirts that he also wore in this match…so retro cool…
To this day, the greatest display of offensive tennis (serve&volley, to be more specific) on a clay court, in tennis history. It doesn't even matter he lost that match in the end, the tennis he played for the entire match, especially in the first two sets, is simply legendary
I cannot recall this game but the 3rd set is the beginning of the end. Crucial moment is the net ball of McEnroe at 40-30 and 3-3 in the final set. If he would have made that crucial passing ball, he would have won the match I think. He remains my favorite of all times, even being enfant terrible but his subtle technique and style, let alone his service are special and unmatched.
En fait , il utilise une raquette très peu tendue, et prend la balle tôt, et se doit de jouer relacher. Je pense que d'autres joueurs pourraient s'inspirer de lui, mais pour des raisons inconnues, personne ne cherche à s'en inspirer. Ca vient aussi de l'école de tennis, très académique. Je pense que sa facon de jouer serait encore efficace aujourd'"hui. Ce qui est fou d'ailleurs c'est que personne n'essaye de s'inspirer de sa facon de servir. Pour l’anecdote, je m'étais mis au badminton, venant du tennis...je jouais au départ comme je joue au tennis, me prenant des roustes en permanence contre mon partenaire de jeu...Jusqu'au jour ou je me dis que je vais jouer au badminton, en mode mc enroe...reduction de la préparation des coups, me précipitant sur le volant etc...Résultat, dés la première fois, j'ai battu mon partenaire !
Serve and Volley in Clay 😀. McEnroe is very skillful to stretch and harass Ivan like that in Clay. Great Match. Great highlights. Credit to Ivan as well - to come so far from behind. He was clutch and steady when he had to stave off those break points. I remember another gem (Agassi v Muster) in QF in the 90s. That was a great game as well. Pls upload the highlights of that as well.
The story it tells is that in his era, there was a historical amount of great and legendary players which made it tough for anyone to even sniff 10 majors. While I believe that Djokovic is the greatest player of all time…he, Fed and Nadal were the only show in town for two decades. None of them would have won half the Slams they did if they played in the 70s and 80s…
@@guslevy3506 i completely disagree. Big 3 would have won double digit slams in 70's & in 80's also. Of course they wouldn't be playing that long as they are playing now but still they would win a lot.
@@rajusaha855 I grew up watching during that era and no data will prove to my own eyes that the quality of players was much deeper and better back then…the fact that a guy like Nadal who is literally a one-dimensional player could win as much as he has is a testament to that. Give that guy a standard size racket and he would have been an NPC during the 70s and 80s when players were forced to be all around players due to the rackets and strings…
@@guslevy3506 Nadal is one dimensional 😂😂. I never heard that before. You have to admit the truth that the big 3 are class of their own. You can't win 20 slams with one dimensional game. Lendl is great but he was or (everybody) is step below big 3. Big 3 able to maximize in all three categories needed to be the GOAT i.e talent, longevity & consistency with versatility which past legend never did. Players like Borg, Mcenroe, Connors, Lendl, Sampras & Agassi didn't have excelled in all three categories. Of course I didn't count Laver, Rosewall & Gonzales as they were played majority of their tennis in pre open era with different tour structure.
It was a Great Match in RG in 1984. I learned an important Lesson from the Champion Ivan Lendl. Never lose a grip and confidence till last second in a fight. Victory will be Yours if you stay on challenge and regain your energy. That sportsmanship we saw even in Roger, Nadal and Djokovic. All these are Warriors
What a show! The times when hitting the ball at 220 km/h didn't pay off, and serve-and-volley ruled! Not only McEnroe, also Edberg was a master at that.
Spectacle unique et irremplaçable dans l'histoire du tennis mondial, l'élégance, la classe et l'efficacité des coups de John Mc Enroe qui exprimaient le meilleur tennis de tous les temps sur terre battue contre la solidité, la régularité et les coups de fond d'Ivan Lendl ont donné vie à la plus belle finale. dans l'histoire du tennis mondial, le dernier exemple de la beauté du tennis classique à voir et à apprécier à une vitesse de balle correcte et acceptable qui aurait toujours dû être celle qui rendait les matchs merveilleux, mais ensuite « la révolution et la technologie ont ruiné l'un des les plus beaux sports individuels du monde avec des matériaux ultra-légers où la seule chose qui compte est de frapper la balle de manière exaspérée pour épuiser la résistance de l'adversaire avec des dribbles sans fin en fond de court et ouvrir le terrain pour marquer des points et gagner les échanges ce match peut être considéré à tous égards comme la conclusion du tennis classique et authentique du passé qui a donné des frissons aux spectateurs, après quoi d'autres techniques de frappe de balle ont pris le relais et ont révolutionné le monde du tennis, le rendant mécanique et puissant.
Spettacolo unico ed irripetibile per la storia del tennis mondiale l'eleganza la classe e l'efficacia dei colpi di John Mc Enroe che ha espresso il miglior tennis di tutti i tempi sulla terra battuta contro la solidità la regolarità e le sbracciate da fondo campo di Ivan Lendl hanno dato vita alla più bella finale della storia del tennis mondiale ultimo esempio di come poteva essere bello da vedere e da gustare il tennis classico ad una velocità di palla giusta ed accettabile che avrebbe dovuto essere sempre quella per rendere le partite meravigliose ma poi' la rivoluzione e la tecnologia hanno rovinato uno degli sport individuali più belli del mondo con materiali superleggeri dove conta solo picchiare la palla in modo esasperato per fiaccare la resistenza del avversario con palleggi da fondo interminabili ed aprirsi il campo per fare i punti e vincere gli scambi questa partita puo' considerarsi a tutti gli effetti la conclusione del tennis classico e genuino di una volta che faceva venire i brividi agli spettatori dopo di che sono subentrate altre tecniche di colpire la palla che hanno stravolto il mondo del tennis rendendolo meccanico e potente.
Tennis must come back to wooden rackets to gain back its charisma Lendl-McEnroe is still my ideal rivalry ...the 80s had a unique aura, and they were the symbols of those years. Opposite characters, opposite style of playing ....back when it was almost impossible to win all the year, in different superficies
Lendl started to play deeper shots in the third set therefore McEnroe couldnt volley so easy anymore and that turned the game.Though Lendl had a continental grip that made his one handed left shot weaker than nowadays, players now should noticed the way he bent down and the steadiness it gives.I still cant understand how Mcenroe could play that unorthodox style it was so agressive like a table tennis player. An epic match in History of tennis.
Mc Enroe a super bien joué. Ce qui a eu un impact sur le résultat, c'est l'utilisation du lob par Lendl. L'effet sur la condition physique est réel. Lendl a sorti de sacrés passing.
When i was a child, McEnroe being muy idol , I cried so much when je threw away this pretty much already won final. He gave it to Lendl on a silver plate due to his lack of concentration . I thought John would finally win RS. To me still the most talented player ever
El revés de una mano de lendl era adelantado a su epoca..podía tirar de todos los efectos y era impredecible hacía donde iría..tenia una técnica bastante depurada para la época
J'ai vu ce match un dimanche en famille, et tout le monde détestait Lendl. Moi j'étais adolescent , mon coup droit était celui de Lendl, mon revers celui de McEnroe, et mon service de Noah. Je voulais absolument que le vilain Mozart du tennis perde, moi. Que le grincheux, le caractériel doué, se prenne une raclée face au soi disant robot sans coeur qu'était Lendl. Je défendais Lendl comme Tim Burton défend le Pingouin. Le mal aimé hué par la foule. Je me souviens bien de ce repas de famille bourgeois où tout le monde applaudissait le sale gosse américain. Et c'est vrai qu'il a dominé le match de son talent extraordinaire fait de coups de pattes de chat. Et puis, tout doucement, mon héros des pays de l'Est à tronche de vampire anorexique s'est mis à remonter la pente et puis, progressivement, à renverser le match. Quel pied, sa balle de match concrétisée, enfin cette victoire à Roland Garros tant espérée! Merci pour ce résumé plein de souvenirs proustiens émouvants, à l'échelle de l'humble 15/1 que je fus au sommet de ma gloire. Aujourd'hui, en revoyant ce match, le talent des deux joueurs saute aux yeux. Le génie, la frustration, la volonté, les oppositions de genre, tous les éléments étaient réunis pour un match de légende. Comme le tennis nous a tant offert à travers les époques (Wimbledon victoire de Nadal face à Federer) et encore aujourd'hui (AO Sinner / Medvedev).
Quei due errori sul 3-3 del 5° set e 15-40 con Lendl al servizio (grave il primo gratuito, ma anche il secondo passante finito in rete non era certo impossibile), con quel break è probabile che sarebbe finita lì. Due attimi a segnare la storia, come tanti altri singoli attimi nella storia del tennis e dello sport in genere.
ITS worthwhile noting 1. both were single handed players....2. how Mac play a control placemen game 3, Lendl did not play much backhand down the line............... ABOE ALL, HOW THE FITNESS & THE RACKET DEELOPEMENT HAE CHNAGE THE GAMES OER PAST 20 ODD YEARS....
You can see how conservative Lendl was. Back in the 80s, it was not uncommon to hit a lot of crosscourt shots. Lendl would later learn to run McEnroe. Had Lendl hit down the line more (and he was great at that) and forced McEnroe to run more, he would have made him tired, but you can see, in the first two sets, he hit back at McEnroe who didn't have to run at all. Mac played a lot of his shots as half-volley drives. These days, I don't think many pros would play Mac they way Lendl did.
Watching MacEnroe serve and volley is a wondrous thing. The lean on his serve to propel him to the net was amazing. He missed two easy (for him) volleys that cost him the match. Shame.
genius against hardworker...both Legends. I really didnt like Lendl back in the 90ied..as i rooted for Boris and Agassi😊. He played like a robot. But Mcenroes backhand technique is so awkward...still amazing how he got the ball inside the court consinstently as he was always falling backwards and hitting a bit late on the backhand. Every Tennis teacher would teach you the opposite..lean forward, hit early. he just had god like touch and talent
You can win on serve and volley on clay. Noah did it. McEnroe almost did it Henman got to the semis and I think Rafter got far one year. But in long matches you can tired rushing the net a hundred times
Mckenroe intimidates the chair umpires with is antics with line calls. Lendl was so right in pointing that out. I’m so glad technology replaced human line judges.
Mac the knife, slicing and dicing, serving and volleying on the slowest of clay courts. Should have won the championship. He always said that it was the biggest choke of his career.
One of those was in Davis Cup and I don't count that one. The other was an unimportant tournament against VJ Amritraj and Mac had been partying all night and played on no sleep. So this loss to Lendl was the big one, and it blew his chance to win the French Open, and go undefeated in slams in 1984. He still loses sleep over it! 😄
@blucat4 even so he still has the best win loss ratio in a calendar year ever from 84. That loss to Amritraj was in cincinatti, which is quite a big tournament. Actually I wouldn't look over the defeat in Davis Cup, it may not be part of the tour but it's still pretty prestigious, and Mac was always very proud of his Davis Cup record
@@mddistribution30 He does have the best calendar year record, it's kind of my favourite record, he was nearly untouchable that year. I wish he hadn't partied away Cincinnati. I didn't realise it was Cincinnati, that actually is a big one, you are right. You're also right about the Davis Cup, but it *was* on an indoor clay court. 2 of the 3 losses were on clay. Anyway here's to you John, you inspired me to take up tennis.
@@mddistribution30 I think it was in Pat Cash's book, from memory. Smoking with his girl Tatem O'Neil. I'm not sure if I should even say that much here ..
Tbh if I saw Mcenroe serving to Alcarez, Merevedev, Sinner, Djokovic et al today they'd still have problems, why, because you never knew where Mcenroe was serving, even on clay, as leftie, they really would struggle, I984 Mcenroe was a true artist, Lendl only beat him once in 84.
One thing I noticed ,IAM not getting out of my comfortable chair to check that , mark so there. as now umpires check almost every disputed mark. John was unplayable for 2 and half set ,then some how lost the final in a unbelievable season of only I think 3 defeats,
Not one valley was at his feet when he came to the net like Lendell couldn’t hit the dipper with his backhand or his forehand I mean, I’m confused that he was number one in the world and watching that you know I mean every freaking volley macro hits his side, his shoulders
@@thb1091those rackets still weren’t anywhere near as powerful as todays rackets, so overall the game was slower. There also wasn’t the incoming ball speed to help you generate the speed of return.
@@AndrewDCDrummond Well if Lendl even with those older racquets was able to counter Mac's S&V game then I can only imagine what a top modern baseliner would do.
Antes prevalecía el talento y la tactica de juego..lendl le dio la vuelta al partida a puro pasing..frente a un mcenroe que se afianzaba fuerte en la red..un juego muy muy tactico
Io tifo x Genius McEnroe questa partita vista in TV John vinceva 2set a zero torna in campo ledel rimonta 3/2 McEnroe incazzato nero se avesse potuto lo uccideva grande McEnroe ciaoaximis
Lendl is the prototype of the modern player. he was 30 year ahead of his time
Is Lendl to McEnroe a bigger leap than McEnroe to Borg and Borg to Vilas? Or do you consider Lendl in the same "modern" category like Becker, Agassi, Sampras, and maybe only make a new category for Federer, Nadal, Djokovic? Not arguing, just curious about your perspective, 30 years is a wide range
@@anonymous4711_ In my opinion, Lendl has the characteristics of the modern player, due to his style of play, which is what most resembles how it is played today and also due to his technique, I am not saying that he uses the refined mechanics that players have today thanks to technologies but he laid the foundations of the technique that we know today. We must also consider that with his style of play he achieved great achievements compared to the serve and volley style of those years.
@@Eebeeb-rz3ciInteresting, so for you tennis history is 2 parts, before-Lendl and after-Lendl?
@@anonymous4711_He was definitely a guy who pushed the tennis little bit further. Just look at his groundstrokes: topspin from both sides, forehand using wrist and compare to flat strokes of McEnroe typical for the era before. Lendl was also one of the first players to take care of physical condition including diet and took the training and preparation to the more professional level as we know it now.
Lendl was the reason I abandoned watching and playing tennis.
This guy made me sleep in each time when he met another "prototype".
They killed the artists, luckily, without being rotten out, and some start to emerge again.
Players like Lendl hold a hammer in their hand, while players like McEnroe hold a drumstick.
Workers against Musicians..
Thanks for the upload. Ivan Lendl is one of the legends of the 80s
Lendl is one of great players often overlooked and underratet:)
McEnroe for sure one of the best hand-eye coordination of all time.
I was a big fan, so were almost all my peers that picket up tennis around 1980. He showed us that tennis is creative, beautiful and emotional. And, of course, he cursed and threw raquets even more than we already did. Our moms hated his demeanor, our dads still turned on the tv when he played.
I guess everyone has to find a valve for their emotions. Today i think, his behavior lost him some matches and was very disrespectful many times. But still like to watch his matches. Good old days. I grew up with him, as a teenage fan. And even played the dunlop 200g, which was way to heavy for a small junior, of course.
People miss the equipment factor. This is graphite racquet with normal strings and small in size some 80-85 sq inch. Current raquets are much bigger in isize 15-20% bigger and poly strings that add more top spin. Lots of shots played with current raquets can never be played with old raquets. Instead calling players from previous ers as inferior,people should ask how current players can play with these old raquets and still be able to play those top spin and win consistently. Those raquets used by John and Lendl require pure skill to opeate. Birg used much heavier wooden raquets to win 6 FO.
So, Bjorn changed his last name to Birg- (I didn't know). ;O
Spot on!
Fantastic win for Ivan, my favourite!!!
Yes Ivan is great ; Ivan the terrible .
Still riveting to watch after 40 years. You can feel the tide changes to Lendl's favorite 👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
These guys are artists. So much better than today's ball machine tennis.
Nonsense , it's like saying Nokia 3210 is better then modern smart phone
Ain't that the truth !! I used to think that modern or current eras in tennis - particularly the big 3 era - were unequal d in terms of skills & greatness. But not now. I challenge anyone who doesn't believe ; put any of the big three back in , say the 90 , s era - which was particularly strong , put them back up against the best of that period using the SAME equipment and resources - they would not could not reach 20 slams or more each - no way.
They wouldn't have a chance against Sinner, Djokovic, Alcaraz and others...
@@brunsbruns2377 Alcaraz literally folded the minute someone (Dimitrov) gave him some variety. What do you think would happen if he faced Edberg or McEnroe? He'd be lost.
@@brunsbruns2377The courts are more consistent and standardized now...the higher bounce enables playing from behind the baseline...there was a reason players with two-handed backhands were rarely successful at Wimbledon for instance as the low ball was difficult to deal with and you would need to get down low to play...now the game is waist and shoulder height everywhere...modern players are like machines requiring consistent pace and bounce but they would find it tough to play on inconsistent surfaces where more reflexes oriented technique is required and they would have to change the way the play...
This is exactly 40 years ago, but this is not old tennis! This is fast, lethal, highly athletic and hard fought tennis. What immense class these two!
I'm from city where Lendl was born and played as junior. His childhood was similar to chess players Polgars sisters. Only tennis. I will be number one. Trained hard and after ten years of such hard training he took big dividends.
Kde domov muj kde domov muj Ostrava
Top notch audio quality there! And an audience with respect!
greatest match ever. Lendl, what a champion!
Revoir ce match 40 ans plus tard, c est fou, tout est beau!...De vrais joueurs de tennis absolument sublime mais maintenànt!...Quels joueurs !
Unique and unrepeatable show in the history of world tennis, the elegance, class and effectiveness of John Mc Enroe's shots who expressed the best tennis of all time on clay against the solidity, regularity and baseline shots of Ivan Lendl gave life to the most beautiful final in the history of world tennis, the last example of how beautiful classic tennis could be to see and enjoy at a correct and acceptable ball speed which should always have been the one to make the matches wonderful but then 'revolution and technology have ruined one of the most beautiful individual sports in the world with super-light materials where the only thing that matters is hitting the ball in an exasperated way to wear down the opponent's resistance with endless baseline dribbles and to open up the field to score points and win the exchanges this match can be considered in all respects the conclusion of the classic and genuine tennis of the past which gave shivers to the spectators, after which other techniques of hitting the ball took over which revolutionized the world of tennis, making it mechanical and powerful.
Mi mayor disgusto como aficionado al tenis-arte. Nunca lo olvidaré. Mac Enroe era un genio
Me pasó lo mismo!! Todavía me duele. Encima vi el partido rodeado de fans de Lendl...😒
Serve and volley on clay, McEnroe was a genius. No one comes close to his best on hardcourt or grass. But his best was so brief.
People who don't know much of.the history of tennis are quick to say roger is the most talented player ever. No sorry Johnny Mac is by far the most talented player to ever pick up a racket.
@@tennisfan599McEnroe was an unorthodox genius, no question, but Laver is certainly in the equation for the most complete player to have played the game.
@@tennisfan599 They both had talent that's for sure. Those two guys are my favourite players.
What about Bill Tilden?@@tennisfan599
@@tennisfan599 "No sorry" back at you; all things equal, Fed was better on grass and at least Mc's equal on hard courts. Just my .02.
watching serve and volley on clay is very interesting.
Mac was the greatest serve and volleyer of all time…he could make it look easy on any surface.
Edberg played it too on clay. With todays rackets it would be suicide.
It's almost like watching Mozart and Bethooven create a masterpiece together.
I was a huge Lendl fan and wore his Adidas shirts when I played tennis growing up.
They should bring back some of the iconic ones like the argyle shirts he wore in this match. Having said that, the shirts I really wish they could bring back are Mad Mac’s equally iconic Sergio Tacchini shirts that he also wore in this match…so retro cool…
To this day, the greatest display of offensive tennis (serve&volley, to be more specific) on a clay court, in tennis history. It doesn't even matter he lost that match in the end, the tennis he played for the entire match, especially in the first two sets, is simply legendary
I agree
Thanks for the archive video.
It's crazy how aggressive McEnroe's serve volley was🔥
I cannot recall this game but the 3rd set is the beginning of the end. Crucial moment is the net ball of McEnroe at 40-30 and 3-3 in the final set. If he would have made that crucial passing ball, he would have won the match I think. He remains my favorite of all times, even being enfant terrible but his subtle technique and style, let alone his service are special and unmatched.
je crois qu'on ne reverra jamais plus une main telle que celle de McEnroe . talent pur !
En fait , il utilise une raquette très peu tendue, et prend la balle tôt, et se doit de jouer relacher. Je pense que d'autres joueurs pourraient s'inspirer de lui, mais pour des raisons inconnues, personne ne cherche à s'en inspirer. Ca vient aussi de l'école de tennis, très académique. Je pense que sa facon de jouer serait encore efficace aujourd'"hui. Ce qui est fou d'ailleurs c'est que personne n'essaye de s'inspirer de sa facon de servir. Pour l’anecdote, je m'étais mis au badminton, venant du tennis...je jouais au départ comme je joue au tennis, me prenant des roustes en permanence contre mon partenaire de jeu...Jusqu'au jour ou je me dis que je vais jouer au badminton, en mode mc enroe...reduction de la préparation des coups, me précipitant sur le volant etc...Résultat, dés la première fois, j'ai battu mon partenaire !
When tennis was pure melody...
One of the best finals ever played at Roland-Garros. Power against artistry. A perfect interplay.
Lendl knew well net play
Balance, touch, variation, anticipation, reflexes: still impressive how aggressively McEnroe was able to play on clay. Unimaginable today.
40 YEARS LATER & JOHNNY MAC STILL KICKING HIMSELF FOR LOSING THAT MATCH
He took his frustrations out on Jimmy Connors a few weeks later at Wimbledon, his absolute peak there.
#1 unsportsmanlike
John had more than 50 highlights on the net
1984 , John McEnroe was almost unbeatable, best match of that tennis period ever
Serve and Volley in Clay 😀. McEnroe is very skillful to stretch and harass Ivan like that in Clay. Great Match. Great highlights. Credit to Ivan as well - to come so far from behind. He was clutch and steady when he had to stave off those break points. I remember another gem (Agassi v Muster) in QF in the 90s. That was a great game as well. Pls upload the highlights of that as well.
Lendl should have won more slam. His 8 slams doesn't tell the whole story of how great he was.
The story it tells is that in his era, there was a historical amount of great and legendary players which made it tough for anyone to even sniff 10 majors. While I believe that Djokovic is the greatest player of all time…he, Fed and Nadal were the only show in town for two decades. None of them would have won half the Slams they did if they played in the 70s and 80s…
@@guslevy3506 i completely disagree. Big 3 would have won double digit slams in 70's & in 80's also. Of course they wouldn't be playing that long as they are playing now but still they would win a lot.
@@rajusaha855 I grew up watching during that era and no data will prove to my own eyes that the quality of players was much deeper and better back then…the fact that a guy like Nadal who is literally a one-dimensional player could win as much as he has is a testament to that.
Give that guy a standard size racket and he would have been an NPC during the 70s and 80s when players were forced to be all around players due to the rackets and strings…
@guslevy3506 you could also make the argument that there weren't any truly great players during that era comparable to the big three.
@@guslevy3506 Nadal is one dimensional 😂😂. I never heard that before. You have to admit the truth that the big 3 are class of their own. You can't win 20 slams with one dimensional game. Lendl is great but he was or (everybody) is step below big 3. Big 3 able to maximize in all three categories needed to be the GOAT i.e talent, longevity & consistency with versatility which past legend never did. Players like Borg, Mcenroe, Connors, Lendl, Sampras & Agassi didn't have excelled in all three categories. Of course I didn't count Laver, Rosewall & Gonzales as they were played majority of their tennis in pre open era with different tour structure.
It was a Great Match in RG in 1984. I learned an important Lesson from the Champion Ivan Lendl. Never lose a grip and confidence till last second in a fight. Victory will be Yours if you stay on challenge and regain your energy. That sportsmanship we saw even in Roger, Nadal and Djokovic. All these are Warriors
What a show! The times when hitting the ball at 220 km/h didn't pay off, and serve-and-volley ruled! Not only McEnroe, also Edberg was a master at that.
Uno de los grandes partidos de la historia
Genial! Mc almost won, love his attacking game. Would love to see another past time classic here: Becker vs Edberg Semifinal 1989, si possible ❤
Both Lendl’s and McEnroe’s serves were good. It’s crazy that we can clearly see this on a tape of the French Open from 1984.
McEnroe always amazes me. He basically almost turn his back to the direction he is serving to
Incredible patience, stamina and the will to win. That’s Ivan Lendl the champion of champions.
Spectacle unique et irremplaçable dans l'histoire du tennis mondial, l'élégance, la classe et l'efficacité des coups de John Mc Enroe qui exprimaient le meilleur tennis de tous les temps sur terre battue contre la solidité, la régularité et les coups de fond d'Ivan Lendl ont donné vie à la plus belle finale. dans l'histoire du tennis mondial, le dernier exemple de la beauté du tennis classique à voir et à apprécier à une vitesse de balle correcte et acceptable qui aurait toujours dû être celle qui rendait les matchs merveilleux, mais ensuite « la révolution et la technologie ont ruiné l'un des les plus beaux sports individuels du monde avec des matériaux ultra-légers où la seule chose qui compte est de frapper la balle de manière exaspérée pour épuiser la résistance de l'adversaire avec des dribbles sans fin en fond de court et ouvrir le terrain pour marquer des points et gagner les échanges ce match peut être considéré à tous égards comme la conclusion du tennis classique et authentique du passé qui a donné des frissons aux spectateurs, après quoi d'autres techniques de frappe de balle ont pris le relais et ont révolutionné le monde du tennis, le rendant mécanique et puissant.
Spettacolo unico ed irripetibile per la storia del tennis mondiale l'eleganza la classe e l'efficacia dei colpi di John Mc Enroe che ha espresso il miglior tennis di tutti i tempi sulla terra battuta contro la solidità la regolarità e le sbracciate da fondo campo di Ivan Lendl hanno dato vita alla più bella finale della storia del tennis mondiale ultimo esempio di come poteva essere bello da vedere e da gustare il tennis classico ad una velocità di palla giusta ed accettabile che avrebbe dovuto essere sempre quella per rendere le partite meravigliose ma poi' la rivoluzione e la tecnologia hanno rovinato uno degli sport individuali più belli del mondo con materiali superleggeri dove conta solo picchiare la palla in modo esasperato per fiaccare la resistenza del avversario con palleggi da fondo interminabili ed aprirsi il campo per fare i punti e vincere gli scambi questa partita puo' considerarsi a tutti gli effetti la conclusione del tennis classico e genuino di una volta che faceva venire i brividi agli spettatori dopo di che sono subentrate altre tecniche di colpire la palla che hanno stravolto il mondo del tennis rendendolo meccanico e potente.
Lendl... el genio del passing shot...for ever
what a game.so pleasent to have this opposition of style which disappear since all the surfaces have been slow downed
Insane how Mac lost that. First two sets were absolutely god level insane. His movement and feel were on another level.
Tennis must come back to wooden rackets to gain back its charisma
Lendl-McEnroe is still my ideal rivalry ...the 80s had a unique aura, and they were the symbols of those years.
Opposite characters, opposite style of playing ....back when it was almost impossible to win all the year, in different superficies
Lendl started to play deeper shots in the third set therefore McEnroe couldnt volley so easy anymore and that turned the game.Though Lendl had a continental grip that made his one handed left shot weaker than nowadays, players now should noticed the way he bent down and the steadiness it gives.I still cant understand how Mcenroe could play that unorthodox style it was so agressive like a table tennis player. An epic match in History of tennis.
Mc Enroe a super bien joué.
Ce qui a eu un impact sur le résultat, c'est l'utilisation du lob par Lendl.
L'effet sur la condition physique est réel.
Lendl a sorti de sacrés passing.
Two Artists playing almost flawless Tennis
СУПЕР 🎉❤😮
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McEnroe's volleying was just out of this world when you consider his racket was strung at only 43 PSI.
16:15 Mac never forgot that volley.
Great match. Great job editing this video. How did you remove the commentators?
Lendl pure class ❤
뭐니뭐니해도 이때의 테니스가 재미 있었음. 그후로 스테판 에드베리,피트 샘프라스등 공격형 서브앤 발리 스타일의 선수들과 애거시,짐 쿠리어등 수비형선수들의 어우러져 테니스의 꽃을 피웠는데 로저 페더러의 등장으로 강서브와 스트로크로만 대결하는 단조로운 경기가 지속됨.
The greatest net play on Roland Garros ever McEnroe deserved the victory
When i was a child, McEnroe being muy idol , I cried so much when je threw away this pretty much already won final. He gave it to Lendl on a silver plate due to his lack of concentration . I thought John would finally win RS. To me still the most talented player ever
The best serve and volley ever.
After watching this highlights, how McEnroe ended up losing is beyond me
Are you afraid of him? Are you afraid of him? Are you afraid of him? hahaha great!
lendl putting some heat on those passing shots..
I will never be able to understand how McEnroe lost this match by playing the first two sets so well.
...that was John's ONLY chance to win the FO!
Normally he had never loose this match - after 2 sets in front...
Very very sad.
Please, post the whole match, as Wimbledon does.
El revés de una mano de lendl era adelantado a su epoca..podía tirar de todos los efectos y era impredecible hacía donde iría..tenia una técnica bastante depurada para la época
J'ai vu ce match un dimanche en famille, et tout le monde détestait Lendl. Moi j'étais adolescent , mon coup droit était celui de Lendl, mon revers celui de McEnroe, et mon service de Noah. Je voulais absolument que le vilain Mozart du tennis perde, moi. Que le grincheux, le caractériel doué, se prenne une raclée face au soi disant robot sans coeur qu'était Lendl. Je défendais Lendl comme Tim Burton défend le Pingouin. Le mal aimé hué par la foule. Je me souviens bien de ce repas de famille bourgeois où tout le monde applaudissait le sale gosse américain. Et c'est vrai qu'il a dominé le match de son talent extraordinaire fait de coups de pattes de chat. Et puis, tout doucement, mon héros des pays de l'Est à tronche de vampire anorexique s'est mis à remonter la pente et puis, progressivement, à renverser le match. Quel pied, sa balle de match concrétisée, enfin cette victoire à Roland Garros tant espérée! Merci pour ce résumé plein de souvenirs proustiens émouvants, à l'échelle de l'humble 15/1 que je fus au sommet de ma gloire. Aujourd'hui, en revoyant ce match, le talent des deux joueurs saute aux yeux. Le génie, la frustration, la volonté, les oppositions de genre, tous les éléments étaient réunis pour un match de légende. Comme le tennis nous a tant offert à travers les époques (Wimbledon victoire de Nadal face à Federer) et encore aujourd'hui (AO Sinner / Medvedev).
Quei due errori sul 3-3 del 5° set e 15-40 con Lendl al servizio (grave il primo gratuito, ma anche il secondo passante finito in rete non era certo impossibile), con quel break è probabile che sarebbe finita lì. Due attimi a segnare la storia, come tanti altri singoli attimi nella storia del tennis e dello sport in genere.
Lendel. Legend.
Look at that roundhouse forehand by Lendl…… impossible today….
I still can't believe Mac lost this match. You cannot be serious
ITS worthwhile noting 1. both were single handed players....2. how Mac play a control placemen game 3, Lendl did not play much backhand down the line............... ABOE ALL, HOW THE FITNESS & THE RACKET DEELOPEMENT HAE CHNAGE THE GAMES OER PAST 20 ODD YEARS....
They would hit the ball harder with today's raquets effortlessly. It would be a simple adjustment
Lendl Great champion 🏆
Just as Ali was at his best in his loss to Frazier, so this was Mac at his best ...
Great call.
You can see how conservative Lendl was. Back in the 80s, it was not uncommon to hit a lot of crosscourt shots. Lendl would later learn to run McEnroe. Had Lendl hit down the line more (and he was great at that) and forced McEnroe to run more, he would have made him tired, but you can see, in the first two sets, he hit back at McEnroe who didn't have to run at all. Mac played a lot of his shots as half-volley drives. These days, I don't think many pros would play Mac they way Lendl did.
On a en France souvent accusé Ivan Lendl d'être un "bourrin". Mais quels lobs!!!
Watching MacEnroe serve and volley is a wondrous thing. The lean on his serve to propel him to the net was amazing. He missed two easy (for him) volleys that cost him the match. Shame.
genius against hardworker...both Legends. I really didnt like Lendl back in the 90ied..as i rooted for Boris and Agassi😊. He played like a robot. But Mcenroes backhand technique is so awkward...still amazing how he got the ball inside the court consinstently as he was always falling backwards and hitting a bit late on the backhand. Every Tennis teacher would teach you the opposite..lean forward, hit early. he just had god like touch and talent
You can win on serve and volley on clay. Noah did it. McEnroe almost did it Henman got to the semis and I think Rafter got far one year. But in long matches you can tired rushing the net a hundred times
Laver and Rosewall played serve-and-volley on clay too as did Edberg when he got to the final in '89.
Mckenroe intimidates the chair umpires with is antics with line calls. Lendl was so right in pointing that out. I’m so glad technology replaced human line judges.
The wonderfull thing is that there are really few mistakes. Every point was won with skills, nowaday tennis is based on errors...
Is it just me or wasn’t tennis much more interesting back in the day.
Today lots of power little technique 😢
Mac the knife, slicing and dicing, serving and volleying on the slowest of clay courts. Should have won the championship. He always said that it was the biggest choke of his career.
This was one of only 3 defeats for Mac in 84! One of the great regrets in Mcenroe's career i think that he lost this match
One of those was in Davis Cup and I don't count that one. The other was an unimportant tournament against VJ Amritraj and Mac had been partying all night and played on no sleep. So this loss to Lendl was the big one, and it blew his chance to win the French Open, and go undefeated in slams in 1984. He still loses sleep over it! 😄
@blucat4 even so he still has the best win loss ratio in a calendar year ever from 84. That loss to Amritraj was in cincinatti, which is quite a big tournament. Actually I wouldn't look over the defeat in Davis Cup, it may not be part of the tour but it's still pretty prestigious, and Mac was always very proud of his Davis Cup record
@@mddistribution30 He does have the best calendar year record, it's kind of my favourite record, he was nearly untouchable that year. I wish he hadn't partied away Cincinnati. I didn't realise it was Cincinnati, that actually is a big one, you are right. You're also right about the Davis Cup, but it *was* on an indoor clay court. 2 of the 3 losses were on clay. Anyway here's to you John, you inspired me to take up tennis.
@@blucat4 how do you know he was partying when he lost in Cinci?
@@mddistribution30 I think it was in Pat Cash's book, from memory. Smoking with his girl Tatem O'Neil. I'm not sure if I should even say that much here ..
Tbh if I saw Mcenroe serving to Alcarez, Merevedev, Sinner, Djokovic et al today they'd still have problems, why, because you never knew where Mcenroe was serving, even on clay, as leftie, they really would struggle, I984 Mcenroe was a true artist, Lendl only beat him once in 84.
That last volley from Mc Enroe to lose the match😢
Some of MacEnroe's footwork is... interesting 😅 he always looks slightly off balance
One thing I noticed ,IAM not getting out of my comfortable chair to check that , mark so there. as now umpires check almost every disputed mark. John was unplayable for 2 and half set ,then some how lost the final in a unbelievable season of only I think 3 defeats,
The crowds were much more respectful back then -not this loud, rude types we have nowadays!
Lendl is beautiful to watch on clay.
McEnroe never won RG despite his enormous talents.
This explains why he says too little good about RG.
Non sono un esperto, ma a me sembra un tennis più tecnico di quello di oggi, sbaglio?. Umberto
Not one valley was at his feet when he came to the net like Lendell couldn’t hit the dipper with his backhand or his forehand I mean, I’m confused that he was number one in the world and watching that you know I mean every freaking volley macro hits his side, his shoulders
Lendl payed a big price for keep playing with a two generation behind racket.
LE match.
Give Medvedev a wooden racket today and he will lose against McEnroe today. For sure!
McEnroe wasn't playing with a wooden racquet in this match either.
Plays no role. What Lendl and McEnroe played with these rackets was showing more playing skills (volley, slice etc.) than the today‘s generation.
That’s obvious
@@thb1091those rackets still weren’t anywhere near as powerful as todays rackets, so overall the game was slower. There also wasn’t the incoming ball speed to help you generate the speed of return.
@@AndrewDCDrummond Well if Lendl even with those older racquets was able to counter Mac's S&V game then I can only imagine what a top modern baseliner would do.
Antes prevalecía el talento y la tactica de juego..lendl le dio la vuelta al partida a puro pasing..frente a un mcenroe que se afianzaba fuerte en la red..un juego muy muy tactico
Lendl has far superior technique. Mac broke down mentally and his strokes deserted him,,, Vic Braden was the man for mental and technique
McEnroe play Federer sabr
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