Stephen A. & Shannon Sharpe DEBATE between Joe Flacco and C.J. Stroud?! | First Take
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith and Shannon Sharpe join Molly Qerim to talk through the biggest storylines from around the NFL.
0:00 Cowboys vs. Packers
3:30 Is Stephen A. Smith nervous?
4:30 Jordan Love’s importance
6:00 Better story: C.J. Stroud or Joe Flacco?
11:30 Reviving football cities
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Whose here after the Texans win 😂😂
I can’t believe we’re having a Flacco vs. Stroud conversation in 2024. 😂🎉
Texans taking the dub
Cleveland easy!!! Browns Super Bowl 2024
@@albertotovar5082 lol hope your corner can actually defend Amari cooper
Molly is looking nice in that yellow 😊
#WaccoForFlacco. #JoeCool. GoBrownies! 🏈🤎🧡🤍🤎🏈🎊🍻🍾🥂🍀
I can’t believe they’re trying to say a Super Bowl winning veteran in the NFL has a better story than a rookie who got drafted, and took one of the worst franchises to the playoffs, with a rookie coach and has a chance to go deep while breaking rookie records…. It’s crazy.
There's def an argument flacco ain't a HOFer he's always been a big game stud but he's got the jay Cutler in him where menial games tend to roll off him.. the story is of flacco return if they can make the title game is a bigger story than Stroud unless Stroud makes it there
The browns have been a poverty franchise for longer. Flacco was more or less out of a job and hadn’t been the same the last few years.
Arre you living in Cleveland? No then you know NOTHING
Huge ravens fan, love Flacco but you’re right. Give Joe a great o line and you know he’s gonna dice up. Stroud blew all expectations out of the water, and asserted himself as one of the best in the game as a rookie. Very impressive
It’s not stfu fr
I’m from Cleveland. It’s not even a debate… Browns winning a Super Bowl would be much wayyyy bigger than Lebron winning the championship. Us Cleveland people felt like the Cavs should’ve won way more than one championship anyway 🤷🏽♂️
Blame the league. It still bugs me that they allowed that KD thing to happen but were staunchly opposed to Chris Paul & Kobe. Had to neutralize the real chance of takeover that Bron & Kyrie posed to their Jordan shrine (I'm fair but Bron probably would've won 2 more rings with that Cleveland team, after the 3-1 comeback they pulled). They did not want that to happen, at all because Bron is...he's a little to vocal for their likes (don't care what stance on had on that, it is what it is).
This is a dumb question. Just to be sure. But Cleveland likes Jim Brown more than Lebron right?
@@arianprofit Being from Cleveland no one really talks about Jim Brown without also talking about Nick Chubb. Lebron is brought up all the time tho and respected for the legendary run.
The best storyline that nobody is talking about is the chance for Flacco to go into Baltimore if the opportunity arises. Going back to the stadium and playing the team he led to a SB win would be epic. To play the QB that the organization gave up on him for, and as a member of their most HATED division rival
Trust me. Every Ravens fan including me loves smoking Joe and were horrified to face him. Most road game playoff wins tied with Brady.
@@brianb3854 it would be epic
Pure cinema
Exactly
Now thats what u call "must see TV"
Might get just as many views as the Superbowl itself excluding the halftime show
If the Browns win the Super Bowl it’s gone make the Cavs parade look like a toddlers party
They will not
no chance of it happening anyway
@@adrianpheiffer9960we literally in the playoffs where you have a chance 😂😂 you just factually lied to trying to make browns fans upset
They're going to lose to Houston
@@adrianpheiffer9960 u don't have a chance to be successful in life sooo
here after CJ cooked them boys 🤝🏽
I love when they talk about Molly’s head on the show
She does too. Attention seeker.
If the Browns win a SB I most certainly DON'T want it to be with Watson. That's a wild take by SAS
Watson deservers prison not a Super Bowl.
Why not. Flaco is not native to Ohio
@@GentM2015Why what did he do that was illegal. Or do you figure like Jim Crow and put them people away for no reason
@@GentM2015where was this hate for ben Roethlisberger???
They Would Have No Chance With Watson...He is Not That Good
Molly...Thats it that's the message
It's nice to see a guy like Flacco, who was basically written off to the garbage bin of qbs come to a good team and prove he still has something, possibly even another super bowl run left in the tank.
Nah. This is an annoying story. I hope HOU/stroud stomp Flacco/CLE
@@newagain9964 you OK sounds like you’re about to cry or something
Flacco just threw 2 pick sixes in back to back drives. Idk why anybody would ever write him off as a garbage bin QB!
What Lebron and the Cavs did was great for the city of Cleveland and it was an electrifying way to eradicate the drought. That being said, a Browns SB win would move mountains in Cleveland and most of Ohio for that matter. The state yearns for that more than anything else.
💯
@davidmontgomery1442😂😂
@davidmontgomery1442he said most of Ohio nobody North ,East and West care bout the south Ohio I don’t know one city in the south of Ohio never been down there not even close
@davidmontgomery1442you’re in the 1% that is.. we love it tho
Texans are one and done
The Browns would be crazy to let Flacco go next year, even as a mentor for the other QB's in a player coach role. Experience & heart❤ has shown to be everything this season...make him a shareholder..a .coach give him a box! whatever it takes to keep him at the browns🧡🤎🐶🏈
I can't see him sharing a QB room with Watson. Best place for him would be with a contending team with a young QB (rookie or 2nd year) who isn't ready to start. They are not going to dump Watson - they still have $200M in dead cap with him, and Flacco is going to get bridge money if he wants to play next year (Broncos perhaps?).
Agree and u don't see him getting any messages in the offseason.
The Browns winning the Super Bowl is better than lebron championship
go Texans🤘
ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!🤘🤘🤘
Molly is an expert at finding a way to make the conversation about her.
Nah fr they was talkin abt football then she started talkin abt her head 😭
She’s just breaking things up a bit. It’s not that big of a deal 😂.
@@Zai131To be honest, I'd love to talk about her head too 😏
People are gonna regret doubting CJ Stroud and the Texans. We feed off the doubt and proving ourselves right. I really think we can win this playoff game against the Browns, we aren't the same team they played a few weeks ago. Lots of guys back from injury, we will be hungry and ready to go!
@@elbruto1133 lots of our players in defense are back from injury, we are a different defense
@@elbruto1133 I think it’ll be close too, I think Texans squeak by to win with a FG
@@thelyonking5812 same with the browns they just got arguable the best safety in the nfl back
@@thelyonking5812quit using the injury excuse vs cle if cle was healthy they would've been 15-2 or14-3
Injuries? The Briwn’s had so many. We are hungry too. CJ is young and great but with Flacco we trust
Being an Ohioan, I love C.J but Flacco has the experience. They’re both equally matched I feel. C.J is an electrifying playmaker who makes his team so much better but Flacco has the veteran savvy that gets the best out of the players around him and makes a good team great. Should be a fun match up.
Dude. You don’t know ball
Browns have a better Defense.
I’m looking forward to this matchup as a houstonian. With all the Watson stuff aside, I respect y’all’s organization. Best of luck from Houston. I began the season as I have for the past few years with low hopes. I’ve been a fan since we were established. CJ Stroud came in and I was excited but was expecting us to win no more than 6 games this year if we had a great year. He’s restored my faith in my team, my eyes wondered on Sundays while we have been lack luster but I always sit through the pain. CJ Stroud is what Houston has been waiting for.
A huge underrated part is the front office bringing in multiple vets to the team specifically for these games. Before the browns defense just had young inexperienced guys now we got vets and an actual DC in Jim Schwartz
@@skootyyydude u don't know ball flacco undeafted in the wc round 4-0 on the road texans literally have zero big game experience and SINCE YOU DONT KNOW BALL WATCH THERE WILL BE ALMOST IF NOT MORE BROWNS FANS IN HOU THEN TEXANS FANS SATURDAY
I can confirm as a Browns fan that we don’t care if it’s Watson Flacco or Jeff Driskil if a qb leads us to the Super Bowl we don’t care who did it as long as he did
There's no doubt that we want that SuperBowl win, but the Browns community definitely prefers Flacco over Watson.
As a Texans fan I know this game will be difficult. I give the Browns props for winning 11 games with so many players hurt. If they beat the Texans on Saturday, I will be rooting for the Browns the rest of the way.
Grew up rooting for the browns and Ohio state, when Texans drafted Stroud I knew he was going to do big things. I regret not betting he would be ROTY in preseason. Tank Dell played a great part in CJ’s success, I enjoyed watching those two annihilate playoff teams cashing in minimum +200 moneylines and spreads
Well now you won’t have to. 😁
Molly: What would be bigger for the city of Cleveland?
Me: That Hat.
GB has an offense that can really hurt a team and we know Dallas cant stop the run much... this game is closer than we think
I told my cowboy fan friend that earlier, especially knowing Mccarthy is coaching the cowboys offense, should be interesting
Agreed
People just don’t know ball man 24-21 greenbay!
I took GB to win
The team that control the clock and have the least amount of penalties wins the game.
No the team that scores the most points will win.
this is entertaining, thank you
Joe Flaco is the man.
He is the big story in the NFL.
As the Browns are the big story as well.
Look for them to go to the Super Bowl.
Go Texans 🤘
Yessir htown all day
Question?
What would the Browns look like if they had Joe Flacco all year?
17 games is tough for a 39 year old. He'd likely have been injured if he played all year.
Not in the playoffs
And nick chubb
Or Baker Mayfield
Bad lmao.
Of CJs 5 interceptions, 3 came in one game where he was possibly concussed. That said, that’s just 3 games out of his first 16 he’s had an interception. Has that ever been done before? It really speaks to his accuracy.
Being from Cleveland it's not even close. This is BROWNS TOWN.
Hold that L
I am not a browns fan but Flaccos story and the teams situation has been so interesting/exciting, I hope they take it all the way. Easy for me because I don’t have an actual team.
i don’t have a team either but i hope the ravens take it all the way, lamar deserves that ring
@@ammoliquejohnson4226 Lamar will grab MVP. The Browns have literally never won a Super Bowl, though.
I think that the Texans story coming off of a 3 win season last year and now with a rookie head coach and rookie quarterback is more interesting/exciting
Kurt Warner was bagging groceries before he got the call.
Don’t sleep on the Texans.
Stephen A is a joke for his take on Houston.
Flacco looks like a coach playing a QB for his injured starter lol
What is Molly tlkin about
Texans 👍
Browns winning the Super Bowl would break the world , we had 2 million ppl at the Cavs parade ….. it’ll be 10 million if the browns win
Unlikely, entire population of Ohio is about 10 million😂
Yeah this aged well lmao huh Stephen A. Smith
I'm a Cavs fan before anything, but I unfortunately would say that Browns would be bigger almost across the board.
Shannon knows history of football like no other
Ehhh
As a Clevelander that moved to Atlanta 2 yrs ago. I was at the Cavs parade and that was so amazing. Yet… The city of Cleveland will burn the city down in a good way if the Browns win a Superbowl. Browns are in our hearts, our grandfathers hearts, and yeah that’s gonna be special. If and when it happens I’m flying back for that parade right away. Cleveland fans know because we showed up every game even during the 0-16 yr. This would be HUGE.
I’m flying back too. I was there wa the cavs parade as well
Can someone say "ADVERSITY"? How can u not love the story That The Dawg Pound has written so far? This is the best & most comfortable playbook The Flacc-Attack has played in. When u have a team playing as one with everyone on the same page showing each other nothing but love. Now, can u imagine if Nick Chubb & Jack Conklin were healthy? As a Browns fan , it feels different this year. the football gods are with us. Not saying theyre goin all the way. Buuuut... like Stephn A. said, " If theres one team who could do it other than Balt. or SF as an underdog would be the Browns. Browns SB or Cavs champ. ? 4 REAL?? Everyone knows that we would lose our GD minds if we won a SB. Cleveland will forever be a football town. Love LeBron for taking a lot hurt off our shoulders. I'm getting teary-eyed just writing this. Go Browns!
Texans beat them and got a better draft pick by doing it lol
We proud of Stroud!!🤘🏽🏈
Here we go 🔥
Joe has a lot of Playoff experience and his defense behind him is better then the texans
As a texans fan. You are 100% correct
@@JonasBluntsonas a Texans fan I think that y’all are both 100% wrong 😂😂
I can’t believe they sitting in NRG having this conversation. 😊
My wife doesn't watch NFL, and hearing Molly, she said, "Whoever she is, she needs to stop talking. Embarrassing us woman talking about the "saddest day was her joining first take" as if Stephen a meant that
Agree, hard to take her serious.
@@sandrauptonhouston7248 unfortunately
It would be Amazing for the Cleveland Browns to go to the SuperBowl
How crazy would it be to get a Lions Browns Super Bowl
Stroud and Flacco both great stories but Stroud story is better seeing as he is a rookie on a bad team. If the season ended now Stroud has exceeding my expectations. With browns defense we seen all types of QBs win this year.
Keep doubting Stroud we love it
No one is doubting him at all... he is special.
The Cowboys best two teams post 95 was 2014-15 and the 2016-17 year. At least in my view
2007-08 was the best. With Owens and Marlon The Barbarian. Flozzel Adams and them dudes. They just lost to the eventual SB Xhampions Giants
@@erikpuka2627 On paper yes but how they excuted with the run game in 2014 and 2016 was crazy
“Believe or not the hat Fail off her head” 😂😂😂
He right can’t believe my team the rams won and barely anyone showed up to the parade and games wild LA Basketball/ baseball town but it was krazy seeing us win and barely one showed up
Browns winning a Super Bowl over any amount of NBA championships. Anyone that says different doesn’t know Cleveland
Right the city might shut down if the Browns win
Because of that head ayoooo😂😂😂😂
I got green bay 🤷🏽♂️
This is the exact type of game the Cowboys would lose and Jordan Love has didn’t have such a good season just to go home now. If the cowboys lose, Stephen A Smith is going to break viral numbers next Monday😂
You can’t talk CJ stroud and say he’s done nothing bad. He’s came in here with a rookie OC rookie HC and. Whole o line that’s been banged up all year. Dude is legit just sit back and watch
An Ex-Super Bowl MVP Ravens QB, leading the Browns over the Ravens, in Baltimore, en route to a Super Bowl Title, would be insane.
I'd love to see it.
@@Speedyreedy1218 Well, I'm a Ravens fan, so I would NOT love to see it. Lol
@@segagenesis7708 I wanna see it because I'm not a Ravens fan [anymore]. I'm a Flacco fan though.
Im a Steelers fan, I'd love to see Flacco win a SB with Cleveland. Joe was as god as Big Ben, those were some great games.
Shii I cant lie that was a good question , cuz I think there almost equal its to difficult to choose arguments can be made for both lmao
They got them outside? Dang 😂
Kurt Warner was bagging groceries lol
The fact Shannon's rebuttal of SA's stance on Flacco being the better story than the more valid point that Stroud is actually the better story because we've seen QB's that are 40-ish in age do these playoff runs...Brady, Payton to name two...and they let Molly's prop kill the segment. Smdh.
Flacco has been careless with the football regardless of the big plays, Texans and the young gun will beat that overrated defense.
If there’s anything we should all have learned by now. It’s, 1 season is not enough to make judgement on how good a player is or will be. It NEVER goes like people think.
These guys, Stephen A and Shannon, are forgetting that Joe Flacco in his rookie season not only went 11-5 but also won two playoff games and went all the way to AFC championship game (lost to the Steelers). How impressive is that!!
I could see a late comeback by the Packers due to the Cowboys inability to run the ball. Could be a great moment for Jordan Love.
Stroud is amazing, but the difference is gonna be that the Browns have a MUCH better defense than the Texans. If the Texans can slow down Flacco and the Browns offense, it’s definitely possible… but I dunno..
Browns have Playoff experience and they are Battle tested.
I don’t know about the Browns having a MUCH better defense 😂😂😂
“Noo I dOnT tHiNk So “ first opening seconds of the video
Cleveland Native. The Cavs championship was incredible. I will never forget it; however, if the Browns win a Super Bowl the city will burn down. We will go nuts.
Jayden Reed is the Packers best receiver!!!!
Ouch. He's cheeks. 😂😂😂
@Ihavetocorrectyou not saying your wrong, but Reed was by far thier best receiver, 64 catches 800 yards 8 td's Dobbs or Watson weren't even a close 2nd!
Remember when everybody said the Packers would lose against the Chiefs? I’m hoping for the same ending against the Cowboys.
@8:35 Steven A. lookin at Shannon directly eye to eye trying to see if he checking out Molly
Shan and Steve are like Jordan and pip! They just know sports talk. *molly be looking better and better every episode * lol
I’m taking Flacco more experience and had game winning drives in the playoffs before.
I can’t believe it’s not butter 🧈!!
If we win the Super Bowl they better call the national guard!!!
Never heard of Flacco not a fan of the Texans but they should keep n young generation going n learning cmon now
them double pick 6s back to back had flacco shook. GOOD BYE BROWNS
i absolutely hate the "stretch the ball across the line and it counts as a TD" rule since its basically the NFL saying "yea who cares about hard work just have a long arm and your good"
Game of the week.
Seems a no brainer - Flacco. Not all rookies are like Brock Purdy.
Yea CJ better you sound stupid 😂
Brock Purdy the system QB learn some football kid
It’s ok we wasn’t even supposed to be here no surprise they not giving us a chance but we going to make them believe in CJ we trust #TEXANS
That Browns defense is too much
We’ve had 4 different QBs, lost the leagues best running back, WRs been banged up, and the browns are supposed to be here? 🤣
Picking Texans over browns
I got Texans. Texas could have won last time played if Stroud would have played. Flacco going turn the ball over and Stroud won’t. Give me Texans in the upset
@@MrClevelandMade CMC is the best running back. CMC > Chubb
Only thing i know...its gonna be good
😂We know Flacco going to throw at least 2 picks….man I won’t be surprised if Stroud outplay him. Texans are playing with house money the browns are supposed to win and go deep in the playoffs. Stroud can get the excuse he’s a rookie.
stroud not outplaying flacco in the playoffs lol
Its the texans because of that flacco will not throw 2 picks; if it was the colts or jags flacco would of gift wrapped those picks
Flacco is playing with house money as well.
Texans about blow Browns out when they play
@@corvoattano7430I think Stroud outplayed Flacco 😂😂
First off let's be real about this, people are not giving Green Bay the credit they deserve
John 5:26
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Packers already lost this game. Cowboys by homecookin via officiating
It’s the Zebra Bowl, but Cowboys are at home so…
Cant forget about Stipe Miocic carrying Cleveland on his back
Wish MMA was bigger. Pretty cool moment when he won it and nobody cared outside MMA
Most of yall forget Flacco led the Ravens to AFC Championship in his rookie year 👀
This is a debate LMAO CJ Stroud just started! Stop it!
Now you look stupid huh ? Blowout 😂
Ohhh that was a good question Molly, But I'll have to give it to Lebron, because it's not just that they won their first NBA championship, they beat the warriors which had a freakin 73-9 record. That's a storybook ending right there. They ended the Cleveland sports curse.
It might be more important in the grand scheme, but football is king (especially in Ohio). If the Browns win the SB, it will be INSANE.
Honestly?I would seriously LOVE to see the Pack kick Dallas’ booties.Can they do it?50/50 chance at best.Can they up their game enough to beat Dallas at home?🤔
CJ Stroud > any other QB
Why didn’t the league make the Oilers leave the record and colors in Houston after they left to Tennessee?
When teams relocate, their previous records and history follows them. As far as the teams colors go, its the decision of the owners.
@@adrianpheiffer9960 so what you’re saying is that it was Tennessee Titans blew that huge lead back in 93’?
@oblivion85 well it falls under the teams history back when they were known as the Houston Oilers, so technically yes.. there's a difference between expansion teams and teams relocating.. happens in all sports. The Houston Texans were an expansion team, Tennessee Titans went from being the Houston Oilers to Tennessee Oilers to Tennessee Titans.
It's CJ, but obviously I'm biased asf lol. 💯
Texans have been doubted all season long. ESPN projected us to finish 2nd to last, gave us a 1% chance of winning the division. This is a football team, that no moment is too big, they don’t care who they play, they have the confidence and belief in themselves. CJ Stroud gives you a shot in any game, he is accurate, makes all the throws in the playbook, and the most important part is he doesn’t turn the ball over. He makes plays in the clutch, he can read a defense and get rid of the ball quickly and finds the right guys. The Texans will adjust in the rematch and Demeco will find a way to minimize the big plays from Flaco and Cooper. The Texans also have their kicker this game 🤣
They will continue to doubt this entire post season run, let them. They still don't know how special CJ truly is, not just talent-wise, but as a leader.
Cleveland "bleeds brown and orange".
Me: you guys need a doctor