As the video indicates it really depends on the terrain you are looking to ski for the duration. I love 70mm for on piste carving in Europe where fresh snow can be hit or miss. And as much as I love the feeling of flying above the snow on Japan powder days my wife is still getting her ski legs, so 88-90mm gives me gives me the right amount of stability on piste when I'm with her but also a decent amount of lift when I sneak off to the side country for a few turns
it's smart to try different skis out rather than get hung up on a single number like waist. My skis are 106mm waist and they are all mountain skis in that they are great from hard packed pistes (with regularly serviced edges) to deep powder. unfortunately they don't make the soul 7's anymore but they are a great ski for anyone who wants to go off piste, regardless of how much they want to do, they are still very good everywhere skis (though you won't win any races using them). My point is, don't get to set on the numbers but try out the skis as different technology can transcend such paradigms. You might find something with a 94mm waist doesn't work as well as something with 104mm depending on the ski construction. Look for places that hire a range of skis you can try out or even check with ski shops in resorts to see what you can demo. Oh and make sure you already own your own boots that you are comfortable with
That was great info! Bravo! 👍 Although I must say I’m a budget skier at best. After researching the matter, I think the 88mm waist ski I’m looking at is probably the bomb for all around conditions. Forgiving and easy to ski for groomed and ungroomed, solid for moderate powder, and very responsive when carving. I think a ski in the 150-175 range is ideal for recreational skiers, depending on skill level. Long skis go faster and are more stable at high speeds, but have a larger turning radius. Shorter skis can’t develop the high speed, and are less stable at high speeds, but they’re damn sure better for the average skier sticking to groomers. Plus, those lengths will get you into moderate powder and glades skiing depending on your weight. Staying short is better for most recreational skiers.
Hey, could you help? I'm looking for an all-mountain ski (primarily 80% on-piste) that would be agile for some basic tricks like 180/skiing backwards. Does that fall in the 85-95mm width category? A bit worried if they're too wide I'd lose maneuverability for switching front/back, BUT also worried if too narrow (is 84mm narrow?) I'd lose stability on higher speeds. So I need help. 1.76m height, 72kg, average/advanced skier (6yrs rental only) Length suggestions would be appreciated as well, I do prefer shorter Ski and get them around chin height which is 1.55 - easier for tricks and turns; but I do wonder if they're too short to be stable?
Excellent vidéo with clear presentation. Yes width of ski should be considered, However,,, May I add,, 90% of skiers have no idea about,,,, Ski side cut Ski flex Etc,,, Off piste for beginners,,,? Never.
Very instructive Video. Note on Powder Skis: Fat skis are Marketed as Powder Skis. Powder covers a wide range of topography and while Powder Skis are fine for open terrain they are definitely not suitable for skiing the Fall Line in Trees. So your comment that you must take "where you are skiing" into consideration is on point.
What is it about modern skis that they rotate so freely? I got rentals once and you just floated while standing centered. You could turn 45 degrees, standing, and keep floating straight down until you engaged an edge. How do they do that?
If your ski is below 90mm tip and longer than your height, everyone thinks you're an "expert". (And 80% can't tell you aren't, if you don't wipeout or blatantly snowplow) 😂😂😂. So that's kinda fun.
Be so now....... For the past decade it's been the rage. Go as wide as possible. Superwide. Nothing less than 110mm underfoot for all those 3cm "powder" days. Oh ya. "powder", 3 - 4cm qualifies as powder. Well, that's what you say. Forget turning, just be like everyone and schuss.
I purchased a pair of powder skies on sale ten years ago. I live on the East Coast so they are not used that often. I am sure there are better powder skies now but these skies still do the job and they are a blast on big days.
If I want an all-mountain ski (primarily on-piste) that would be good for some basic tricks like 180/skiing backwards, does that category fall in the 84-95mm or 95-110mm width? A bit worried if they're too wide it'd be difficult for switching front/back skiing, but 84mm is probably too narrow to be stable on higher speeds. So - I need help.
That's what I do. I ski on a 98 mm ski, and have my bindings mounted about 2 cm forward of the factory line (decreasing my underfoot to tip and increasing my underfoot to tail) so the skis are closer to evenly weighted front to back. This helps with skiing switch or any trick that requires swinging the skis in the air.
As the video indicates it really depends on the terrain you are looking to ski for the duration. I love 70mm for on piste carving in Europe where fresh snow can be hit or miss. And as much as I love the feeling of flying above the snow on Japan powder days my wife is still getting her ski legs, so 88-90mm gives me gives me the right amount of stability on piste when I'm with her but also a decent amount of lift when I sneak off to the side country for a few turns
85-100 with about 18m turn radius will be your single ski option for all mountain imo from hardback to crud to some powder
it's smart to try different skis out rather than get hung up on a single number like waist. My skis are 106mm waist and they are all mountain skis in that they are great from hard packed pistes (with regularly serviced edges) to deep powder. unfortunately they don't make the soul 7's anymore but they are a great ski for anyone who wants to go off piste, regardless of how much they want to do, they are still very good everywhere skis (though you won't win any races using them). My point is, don't get to set on the numbers but try out the skis as different technology can transcend such paradigms. You might find something with a 94mm waist doesn't work as well as something with 104mm depending on the ski construction. Look for places that hire a range of skis you can try out or even check with ski shops in resorts to see what you can demo. Oh and make sure you already own your own boots that you are comfortable with
Excellent video, very clear explanation and narration.
That was great info! Bravo! 👍
Although I must say I’m a budget skier at best. After researching the matter, I think the 88mm waist ski I’m looking at is probably the bomb for all around conditions. Forgiving and easy to ski for groomed and ungroomed, solid for moderate powder, and very responsive when carving.
I think a ski in the 150-175 range is ideal for recreational skiers, depending on skill level. Long skis go faster and are more stable at high speeds, but have a larger turning radius. Shorter skis can’t develop the high speed, and are less stable at high speeds, but they’re damn sure better for the average skier sticking to groomers. Plus, those lengths will
get you into moderate powder and glades skiing depending on your weight.
Staying short is better for most recreational skiers.
Hey, could you help?
I'm looking for an all-mountain ski (primarily 80% on-piste) that would be agile for some basic tricks like 180/skiing backwards. Does that fall in the 85-95mm width category?
A bit worried if they're too wide I'd lose maneuverability for switching front/back, BUT also worried if too narrow (is 84mm narrow?) I'd lose stability on higher speeds. So I need help.
1.76m height, 72kg, average/advanced skier (6yrs rental only)
Length suggestions would be appreciated as well, I do prefer shorter Ski and get them around chin height which is 1.55 - easier for tricks and turns; but I do wonder if they're too short to be stable?
Excellent vidéo with clear presentation.
Yes width of ski should be considered,
However,,,
May I add,,
90% of skiers have no idea about,,,,
Ski side cut
Ski flex
Etc,,,
Off piste for beginners,,,?
Never.
So helpful! Thanks for making this video.
Very instructive Video. Note on Powder Skis: Fat skis are Marketed as Powder Skis. Powder covers a wide range of topography and while Powder Skis are fine for open terrain they are definitely not suitable for skiing the Fall Line in Trees. So your comment that you must take "where you are skiing" into consideration is on point.
excellent video! thanks for posting this. I build skis for fun and this is a great explanation
Excellent presentation, cheers I just subscribed!,,
I have 25 year old k2's. They are paid for.
What is it about modern skis that they rotate so freely? I got rentals once and you just floated while standing centered. You could turn 45 degrees, standing, and keep floating straight down until you engaged an edge. How do they do that?
If your ski is below 90mm tip and longer than your height, everyone thinks you're an "expert". (And 80% can't tell you aren't, if you don't wipeout or blatantly snowplow) 😂😂😂. So that's kinda fun.
Excellent tutorial on various ski scenarios and using the correct equipment! 🕙⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Be so now....... For the past decade it's been the rage. Go as wide as possible. Superwide. Nothing less than 110mm underfoot for all those 3cm "powder" days. Oh ya. "powder", 3 - 4cm qualifies as powder. Well, that's what you say. Forget turning, just be like everyone and schuss.
What a great breakdown. Would love to send you a pair of Renoun's to check out! :)
Thanks! So cool how you're disrupting the traditional ski. Would love to bring a pair of Renoun skis to the Alps this year :)
Your videos are great man, keep it up! Cheers
Really appreciate your support! Thanks for watching
95-100 is my go to for skis I want to try power skis one day
You should definitely try powder skis!
do carving skis (
In Europe deep powder is getting rarer and rarer, not sure I would invest in deep powder ski
I purchased a pair of powder skies on sale ten years ago. I live on the East Coast so they are not used that often. I am sure there are better powder skies now but these skies still do the job and they are a blast on big days.
If I want an all-mountain ski (primarily on-piste) that would be good for some basic tricks like 180/skiing backwards, does that category fall in the 84-95mm or 95-110mm width?
A bit worried if they're too wide it'd be difficult for switching front/back skiing, but 84mm is probably too narrow to be stable on higher speeds. So - I need help.
90mm-95mm are pretty optimal if you want to do some cool tricks and be stable going down the runs
That's what I do. I ski on a 98 mm ski, and have my bindings mounted about 2 cm forward of the factory line (decreasing my underfoot to tip and increasing my underfoot to tail) so the skis are closer to evenly weighted front to back. This helps with skiing switch or any trick that requires swinging the skis in the air.
a downhill ski is 65mm to the waist, and this is the fastest ski race discipline.
full of bs
In Europe deep powder is getting rarer and rarer, not sure I would invest in deep powder ski