hey fellas, just wanted to apologise again for not uploading in a while. this video was going to go up last week but i decided to hold off and i think it turned out a lot better for it. hope you enjoyed it and i've got some more stuff in the works! love u xoxo
davo! nice vid and no problem fam, please make that dwarf fortress video, its my fav game and it gets so little attention :c , or are you waiting for steam release?
Dwarf Fortress video is coming. Don't think I'll wait for the Steam Release (because who tf knows when that's comin') but still got a fair bit of work to do on it. Very much looking forward to bringing it to you!
ok honest question. back in 2012-1013 time Terraria put out an update that i remember seeing all over steam news and stuff as the 'final update'. They did the whole 'we have worked on this for ages and think it's finally a complete game' thing. what happened? ive got the game in my steam library but havent bothered since really as i only played with friends. Am i crazy? Surely somebody else remembers this event and can shed some light Edit: I found this on the wikipedia page. Solved! "In December 2011, the game was updated to version 1.1, adding new monsters, bosses, NPCs, and items. The update also included improvements to the game's world generation technology and lighting system.[15] In February 2012, the developers announced that they would not be continuing active development, but would release a final bug-fix patch.[16] However, development resumed in 2013 with Spinks asking the community for ideas to include in future content updates.[17]"
Kenshi. Started the game starving and missing my right arm in the middle of the desert. After running away from sand skimmers, I managed to reach a city. Started picking up loot from the rebels of the empire that got into a huge fight with the United Cities when I had a revelation. Can't i just sell the people instead of their shit? And so, the story of Ishtar, the body scavenger hunter starts! Except it didn't, aparently one of the guys i took was something was from the united cities, so they beat the shit our of me and threw me to the jail. After SEVERAL prison breaks, i leveled sneak enough to be able to escape. Except I didn't cause i got found out and lost me left leg on my escape. After MUCH MUCH grinding, y managed to worm myself out of the jail, and into the robotics shop. Where i stole (and for one, actually succeded) in getting a scout leg and a robo arm, but was caught stealing and had to run away with a bounty worth housands of cats. And so, the story of Ishtar from the Dead limbs faction starts. Where every skeleton is auto recruited and every other person has to fight skimmers until they lose a limb in order to join. Where we fight the United cities and the slavers out of petty revenge and to increase our numbers. That's the magic of sandboxes. All of that and more, just from having fun.
there was the one time that I started off as FINGERS the assassin skeleton who joined the ninjas and trained by killing thousands of fogmen until becoming a master assassin able to knock out and kill the holy nation paladins he originally had the goal to be a one man army to defeat the holy nation during a trip to the Black Desert City he met a skeleton who handed him a piece of software which would reboot and bring the old skeleton emperor Cat-lon back to his senses and retake the former land of the skeleton 2nd empire. with an army of 30 elite skeletons FINGERS retook the land from the brainwashed skin bandits and then defeated the southern hive by kidnapping the queen
another character was Aka the trader and her trusty cow Chum who made a living by braving dangers to run a triangle trade between the UC, Tech hunters, Hivers, shek and the holy nation for months
@@ComfyRift And me. I remember how adamantly we demanded and breathlessly we anticipated "Version 1.0" on the forums. What a bunch of fucking idiots we were.
So, I played me some EU4 this week. Decided to play Kachar in India; a backwards chiefdom with no institutions, but a damn good map colour. I didn't really have a specific goal in mind, I just wanted to do well. My second ruler turned out to be an absolute genius, and my dynasty of Dimasa spread to my good ally Orissa, and I went on to conquer half of modern Myanmar + bits of Bengal. The Dimasa dynasty had come far! But then, after three or four generations, crisis strikes. I had gotten a border with Ming, and Ming wanted me to become a tributary. I didn't want to become their tributary. I didn't really think I could beat the Ming, but I figured they wouldn't be petty enough to actually attack me. I was wrong. The Ming attacked and my good ally Orissa wished me the best of luck whilst not joining me in the war. Instead, Vijayanagar came to my call. Then a month or two or so into the war, my ruler dies without and heir, and so the Dimasa dynasty was gone in Kachar. Instead I get an excellent ruler of the Sangama dynasty, the same dynasty of Vijayanagar. I turned him into a general and he got SIX in shock (1/6/1/1, very good early game)! I had a mountainous fort where I managed to repel the Ming army, and when Vijayanagar's army caught up to me we dared advance into Ming itself. I managed to peace out Ming on favourable terms, taking a modest sum of ducats from them. Do you see the epic narrative here? The noble Sangama general, a relative of the loyal Vijayanagari, who pushed back the invading Ming, was crowned the new Prince of Kachar! I would re-establish ties with Orissa, but they would betray me once more. As the campaign continued, the noble Kachar continued to prosper whilst the Orissan realm was balkanized. They had lost everything. The Dimasa had fallen so far from grace and were now nothing. Yeah, EU4 is a great sandbox game!
Yeah he is a great story teller and the goddamn character arcs of his latest DF series is increadible. I especially like the part...(MASSIVE SPOILER) where there was a vampire in the fort that was sucking the blood out of other dwarves while they where asleep and krugg appointed a dwarf (I can't remember her name) to be the interogator. Krugg then listed all the dwarves that eat and the one that did not eat was the interogater, which means SHE WAS THE VAMPIRE THE WHOLE TIME!! There was also a part where beardless the necromancer (who is also the fort's mayor) revealed that he had a family that was killed by a rok (a giant bird larger than a dragon). And on a looting of a ruin nearby the fort to get some relics the looting squads found a weapon that was weilded by a demon that killed the exact same rok that killed beardless' family. Then krugg gave the weapon to beardless. So yeah DF is amazing and it is increadibly underrated.
Kenshi also has a simulated economy, kill or steal enough from a faction and they will start to lose power and ground to others, yours (if you have one) included.
One of the reasons I really like converting saves in paradox grand strategy games. Being given a medieval era world in CK2 and seeing the world evolve around me right up until the late modern era in HOI4 is very satisfying to me. I've gotta find the motivation to edit my converted saves a bit though, as having China start as a major power in Vic2 was super cursed.
In the game Cataclysm:Dark Days Ahead, i was a martial artist/cop who escaped a building full of zombies and proceeded to run through the city. I met with a fellow (rockstar looking) survivor who i befriended, we then tried to get out of the city before i was killed by a swarm of zombies, and my friend was destroyed by a hulk!
There is a strong possibility I just spent 100 dollars on paradox content cause of the sale. There is also a strong possibility I only spent 20 dollars on 2 new actual games
@@piolit06 I don't even know if I want that. They screwed up my boy hoi3 with that lackluster sequel and I fear they'll do it again to vicky 3. Probably will remove the pop system with the multiple social castes and do something more simplified.
idk dude, i love building my base and my planet on star bound, and go around conquering the galaxy. The story has always been something in the background that is a fun challenge to do when your bored. Obviously it isn't as good as minecraft but that's a hard shelf to reach.
This may sound unorthodox, but i originally subscribed to you because i saw a video you made critiqueing a subject so poorly i considered making a video myself critiquing your critique. Suffice to say I think you've improved greatly in your ability to preform analyses and this video was actually well done! your thoughts were properly thought out and explained thoroughly with good examples and good editting. I feel you could've done more on the editting end but thats personal taste more than functionality. Keep up the good work! EDIT: Starbound does suck
I used to love star bound. Me and my friend would play it for a whole summer. And then they added that dog piss story. I was okay with fighting bosses in the same spots over and over. But that story they added was just shit
Fat agree, man. I just couldn't fuckin' deal with it. Seeing it get abandoned with no hope for a new update feels shitty. Sunk 500 hours into that game, most of which was before that story.
I'm glad someone mentioned how incredibly satisfying terraria's progression is. I think it has the single best progression in any video game ever. To the point where I I can't even begin to try to analyze how genius it is because it just flies way over my head. And it all feels player driven. The game never "hands you" Items. Every time you get them, it feels completely like you're the one in charge.
I'm using videos like these as advice as I'm building my own sandbox game. the idea for game play is to have two parts, the wilderness which is randomized each time you play so it can't be predictable and you have to explore everywhere, and puzzle rooms you have to find which need to be solved to slowly progress through the game. after you've completed enough puzzles you can go back to your spawn point and unlock a door which leads to the next level which is another randomized world. I'm still building on the idea and plan to have some set of tools and items you carry around so you don't enter a new world naked but not entirely sure yet.
Telling your child about a sandbox game be like: "Ah that game. I remember starting with wood armor and a small sword. At the end I became a human wielding lazer the goes faster than the speed of sound. Good times.."
Ahh Paradox games. The only place where you can reform the Roman empire as a Turkish Jewish Byzantine Republic with a horse dynasty in the year 1769 and start World Wars because someone said they didn’t like your mustache or your diplomat disagreed with someone on whether red or blue looks better. Truly the ultimate world map sandbox games.
Rewatching this, I like how you differentiate sandbox games and open world games. I like both for different reasons, but not I know there is an important difference. Thank you.
You have to star with differencing between a "sanbox" game and an "open world" game. As most open world games ether lable themselves as "sanbox" games, while some has sandbox elements in it. However many Open world games never claim to be sandbox games
I have played Minecraft for many thousands of hours, and I've been really down lately because something that I never thought would only happen when I'm in my grave has happened. Minecraft is failing to entertain me. I know just about everything there is to know about Minecraft, and the game mechanics are more familiar to me than my clothing size, and I think that it has been the best part of my life. Recently I took a break from minecraft and started playing Terraria, and I had more fun then the last time I played Minecraft. This made me feel really sad, the only times I really cried in the past few years was when they burned the merry in one piece, and when hopper died in stranger things, and this felt like one of those moments, I think the time has come for me to say goodbye to one of the best games ever made and maybe look back in a few years at my fun times in Minecraft with my friends
There are infinite stories in eu4 if u get the el dorado dlc because u can make custom nations. I love just making custom nations and making stories behind them and just letting them play it out. Whenever I want to participate in new stories I just do random world and choose a nation and it’s different every time.
No Man's Sky is an example of a good sandbox game that still has a narrative. It achieves this by making this narrative secondary, optional and there is two different paths to take with it. The remainder of the game is sandbox-like with randomly generated missions to help you figure out what to do.
Ive been playing minecraft since 2011, when i was freaking 5 and i snuck into my brothers room and made my sister type the password in.The first i played the game, not the first id seen it, but play it. Today, i have 10000+ hours of gametime because it my only friend, which never let me down , or lied to me, i never had any actual friends back when i was little.
Very well put together all around, not only managed to be an entertaining video but also managed to expand my knowledge a bit on the genre. To be honest, to me Minecraft or Terraria was really the only game I would have considered a sandbox (due to the fact I grew up with those games mainly, so they tended to fill that genre for me), though I do suppose that it is true alot of the features found in those block world can also be found in even the Grand Strategies you've mentioned, although I would have never reached that conclusion myself even with the few hundreds of hours I've dumped into Paradox's Grand Strategies alone. Ramble over though, great video!
I like your videos but I really do wish you would stop rubbing it in our faces how you dont like starbound. I personally really like the game and I do respect your opinion, but please. just calm down about it.
I already disagree with you on the story in a sandbox game thing. Plenty of great sandbox games have great stories, and cutscenes can usually be skipped and well as dialogue.
minecraft is the ultimate sandbox. Want to find diamond tools? 1-strip mine and craft 2- cave dive and craft 3- treasure find and craft 4- speedrun nether portal and explore nether fortress 5- speedrun end fight and find end cities 6- trade with villagers A sandbox relies on it’s ability to complete projects in different meaningful ways. Minecraft thrives off of it’s ability to make resource options that derive from multiple sources. also hopefully those diamonds help you get armor before others do on your smp ;)
I've always felt weird about Terraria, since every youtube video I see about it is played with the wiki open in an attempt to play the game following a specific order.
Motorsports Manager is another title that i would consider Sandbox. Your progression, win rates and tech development influences what the izher teams do.
Daymmm... I remember when I was around 11 and starbound just was announced. My imagination exploded as I thought about endless potential and cool mind blowing stuff that could be in such a game. I was wondering how it would be feeling to experience such a gameplay in the future. Damn, the fact that I could DESTROY and PLACE virtual blocks while traveling through a universe with its own story and fighting some bastards was out of my compression. And now its 2020. First seconds of the video. I enjoyed that a lot xd Imagine someone showing me this in the past lol
Mount and Blade Warband. I started as a Rhodok adventurer, who believed that people deserve more freedom. He wanted to help the common people, and seeing the suffering of swadiand he decided to pledge his allegiance to king Harlaus. He saved Swadia from collapse, but when king Harlaus disrespected his hard work at helping the people of Swadia, he rebelled and declared the creation of Dhirim Republic, where he ended the serfdom and created a free, decentralised society. Because of this, he had a hard time building up relations with his new vassals, so he had to make a lot of hard decisions in order not to lose his relations with noble vassals and at the same time not to betray the common people. His Republic never had a goal to conquer the world, and just stayed as one humble but solid new country, willing to increase it's prosperity not from war, but trade.
My faction started out as just two escaped slaves, running north when fled Rebirth until we reached the Northern Shore. We slowly started building a home and recruited more helpers for our cause, I am proud to announce we have finally openly antagonized the United Cites AND the Holy Kingdom.
... But there are certain things that all sandbox titles, no matter to what degree, should do... and not do *Can you tell me anything about the battle of Pendraic* 0:46
In order to have fun with Starbound I have to abandon playing Legit so I can create interesting buildings and get a ship up and running without doing any part of the story because I find the game itself rather.. Lacking.
@@wolfieinu I would recommend getting a mod that allows you to spawn in items from the games code, and then using that mod to get an item called "Ship2" (Or anything above that)
davo_ : It's May of 2020 and I still haven't made my obligatory "I hate Starbound" video. What to do? What to do? Oh, I know! May 16th. davo_ release Making a Good Sandbox Game - or, Why I Still HATE Starbound 5 Years Later.
Starbound used to be way cooler in the beta and alpha. When 1.0 came out I was so fucking upset. In the beta every planet was different and every creature was randomly generated, so every playthrough was different. I remember playing the beta and having no idea how to survive in asteroids (which in that time where full of minerals and structures) so it was a real adventure.
So I really like starbound, but mostly because the movement and combat feels so good. The grappling hook is a strong 10/10 for me. I fully agree that the story and theme make for some bad moments, but... We'll I just ignore them. I get that you might not like it though. To each their own.
I almost exclusively play Paradox games and other sandbox titles now thanks to EU4, I was always a fan of creating my own story in a game but that shit has been like crack to me, 4000 hours later and I still love it. People justifiably shit on Paradox for their DLC policies but I honestly can't think of any other title that has given me so many hours with so little monetary input, especially when compared to AAA 60 dollar titles that MIGHT offer a good experience that'll only last you ~20 hours max.
How do you feel about direction in sandbox games? I feel like in a lot of sandbox survival games I have played there is no direction to what I should be doing. I think if a new player comes to terraria or even minecraft it can be a little daunting if you don't know what you are doing. On the other hand I feel like telling the player what to do is a bad idea. When I first played stardew valley I really did not enjoy it because all I was doing was following the to do list. It kind of sucks that you have to go in to great games like these by watching a playthrough first and if you are playing with friends it feels like you are just following them around while they are the ones actually playing the game. Are there any ways at all of letting the player enjoy the game as soon as they go into it like games from other genres?
"space engineers" can be fun with friends! the Civ games can be considered sandbox games (civ 6 is free on the epic games store right now if you use it) Europa Universalis 4 and Hearts Of Iron 4 are sandbox games Crusader Kings 2 is a game made by the same people who made EU4 and CK2, and its free! Cities Skylines is like sim city. planet coaster and planet zoo is cool too for a game with a plot, star wars: empire at war has a bit of storytelling, but you are allowed to do your own thing, and the sandbox aspects are also a core part of the game. From The Depths is a very complex game, and while it has a plot it has little to do with the gameplay Avorion is a space sandbox game Banished is another city building game Also gonna mention Stellaris before I go!
2:38 *OH MY GOD FINALLY PRESS STRG* I bEt yOu pLaCe wAlLs oNe bY oNe (_wItHoUt sTrG_) Terraria is my childhood so I need to get this out of the way to continue breathing
hey fellas, just wanted to apologise again for not uploading in a while. this video was going to go up last week but i decided to hold off and i think it turned out a lot better for it. hope you enjoyed it and i've got some more stuff in the works! love u xoxo
Great video can’t and wait for more content.
Dwarf fortress video when??
davo! nice vid and no problem fam, please make that dwarf fortress video, its my fav game and it gets so little attention :c , or are you waiting for steam release?
Dwarf Fortress video is coming. Don't think I'll wait for the Steam Release (because who tf knows when that's comin') but still got a fair bit of work to do on it. Very much looking forward to bringing it to you!
hey davo_ what's the name of the game in 0:34?
At this point "Starbound freaking sucks" might as well be Dave's intro.
*sadness noises*
It one of best games I played
Starbound isn't that bad
It let me exploit it to boost my steam level
I’ve watched 3 of his videos and all of them have just been him dumping on starbound
@@firejammer Is it... the only game you've played?
it's weird seeing terraria footage knowing that in about 4 hours it's about to get its final update
I never even played Terraria and its not even high on my list of "games to play" but that still makes me sad...
@@dilophosaurussk4333 yeah.. i only played terraria a few times
ok honest question. back in 2012-1013 time Terraria put out an update that i remember seeing all over steam news and stuff as the 'final update'. They did the whole 'we have worked on this for ages and think it's finally a complete game' thing. what happened? ive got the game in my steam library but havent bothered since really as i only played with friends. Am i crazy? Surely somebody else remembers this event and can shed some light
Edit: I found this on the wikipedia page. Solved!
"In December 2011, the game was updated to version 1.1, adding new monsters, bosses, NPCs, and items. The update also included improvements to the game's world generation technology and lighting system.[15] In February 2012, the developers announced that they would not be continuing active development, but would release a final bug-fix patch.[16] However, development resumed in 2013 with Spinks asking the community for ideas to include in future content updates.[17]"
@@dilophosaurussk4333 lol dude
@@khangarraty727 they're still doing it LOL
Kenshi.
Started the game starving and missing my right arm in the middle of the desert. After running away from sand skimmers, I managed to reach a city. Started picking up loot from the rebels of the empire that got into a huge fight with the United Cities when I had a revelation.
Can't i just sell the people instead of their shit?
And so, the story of Ishtar, the body scavenger hunter starts!
Except it didn't, aparently one of the guys i took was something was from the united cities, so they beat the shit our of me and threw me to the jail.
After SEVERAL prison breaks, i leveled sneak enough to be able to escape. Except I didn't cause i got found out and lost me left leg on my escape.
After MUCH MUCH grinding, y managed to worm myself out of the jail, and into the robotics shop. Where i stole (and for one, actually succeded) in getting a scout leg and a robo arm, but was caught stealing and had to run away with a bounty worth housands of cats.
And so, the story of Ishtar from the Dead limbs faction starts. Where every skeleton is auto recruited and every other person has to fight skimmers until they lose a limb in order to join. Where we fight the United cities and the slavers out of petty revenge and to increase our numbers.
That's the magic of sandboxes. All of that and more, just from having fun.
Man i REALLY wanna get that game mate.
there was the one time that I started off as FINGERS the assassin skeleton who joined the ninjas and trained by killing thousands of fogmen until becoming a master assassin able to knock out and kill the holy nation paladins
he originally had the goal to be a one man army to defeat the holy nation
during a trip to the Black Desert City he met a skeleton who handed him a piece of software which would reboot and bring the old skeleton emperor Cat-lon back to his senses and retake the former land of the skeleton 2nd empire.
with an army of 30 elite skeletons FINGERS retook the land from the brainwashed skin bandits and then defeated the southern hive by kidnapping the queen
another character was Aka the trader and her trusty cow Chum who made a living by braving dangers to run a triangle trade between the UC, Tech hunters, Hivers, shek and the holy nation for months
Never heard of the game before, but I want to play it!
Is this an online game? Is it randomly generated? I don't care!
The Last Time I was this early, Starbound Didn't have a storyline.
F for all the homies who bought it in early access
@@davo_ F
I also bought it in early access i can feel your frustration.
@@ComfyRift And me. I remember how adamantly we demanded and breathlessly we anticipated "Version 1.0" on the forums. What a bunch of fucking idiots we were.
@@davo_ dont remind me. Bought copies for myself and others...
Honestly, 1.0 was a sizeable step forwards and a big step back. It was bad both before and after story got introduced.
I was just playing Catholic Ottomans when you uploaded this
not Coptic Ottomans smh my head
Coptic ottomans hre emperor
Tribal Coptic Ottoman HRE for 97% Core-Cost Reduction
Meanwhile I thought my sunni mexico owning most of Iberia was a big deal smh
@@Jupiter__001_ ah, a fellow FlorryWorry fan
So, I played me some EU4 this week. Decided to play Kachar in India; a backwards chiefdom with no institutions, but a damn good map colour. I didn't really have a specific goal in mind, I just wanted to do well. My second ruler turned out to be an absolute genius, and my dynasty of Dimasa spread to my good ally Orissa, and I went on to conquer half of modern Myanmar + bits of Bengal. The Dimasa dynasty had come far!
But then, after three or four generations, crisis strikes. I had gotten a border with Ming, and Ming wanted me to become a tributary. I didn't want to become their tributary. I didn't really think I could beat the Ming, but I figured they wouldn't be petty enough to actually attack me. I was wrong. The Ming attacked and my good ally Orissa wished me the best of luck whilst not joining me in the war. Instead, Vijayanagar came to my call. Then a month or two or so into the war, my ruler dies without and heir, and so the Dimasa dynasty was gone in Kachar. Instead I get an excellent ruler of the Sangama dynasty, the same dynasty of Vijayanagar. I turned him into a general and he got SIX in shock (1/6/1/1, very good early game)! I had a mountainous fort where I managed to repel the Ming army, and when Vijayanagar's army caught up to me we dared advance into Ming itself. I managed to peace out Ming on favourable terms, taking a modest sum of ducats from them.
Do you see the epic narrative here? The noble Sangama general, a relative of the loyal Vijayanagari, who pushed back the invading Ming, was crowned the new Prince of Kachar! I would re-establish ties with Orissa, but they would betray me once more. As the campaign continued, the noble Kachar continued to prosper whilst the Orissan realm was balkanized. They had lost everything. The Dimasa had fallen so far from grace and were now nothing.
Yeah, EU4 is a great sandbox game!
I hate this, just from reading the first paragraph. And this is coming from someone with 1400 ish hours and 97 achievements.
@@rachelthesheep I'm sorry to hear that you hate it. What, specifically, was it that you hated?
@@Kathkere I love paradox grand strategy games. Haven't played EU4 but I do sink a lot of time into Stellaris.
@@jagothegamer5750 Oh man the sandbox in Stellaris is amazing! You can make so much new lore every game
Wanna play EU4 mp
Ah, a fellow Kruggsmash fan
if there is one man who showcases the incredible storytelling potential of Dwarf Fortress, it's Krugg. man is a God
Bearded bastards gang
Yeah he is a great story teller and the goddamn character arcs of his latest DF series is increadible. I especially like the part...(MASSIVE SPOILER)
where there was a vampire in the fort that was sucking the blood out of other dwarves while they where asleep and krugg appointed a dwarf (I can't remember her name) to be the interogator. Krugg then listed all the dwarves that eat and the one that did not eat was the interogater, which means SHE WAS THE VAMPIRE THE WHOLE TIME!!
There was also a part where beardless the necromancer (who is also the fort's mayor) revealed that he had a family that was killed by a rok (a giant bird larger than a dragon). And on a looting of a ruin nearby the fort to get some relics the looting squads found a weapon that was weilded by a demon that killed the exact same rok that killed beardless' family. Then krugg gave the weapon to beardless.
So yeah DF is amazing and it is increadibly underrated.
Well hello my fellow Bearded Bastards
I love how his quality has gotten exponentially better with each week like wow
Guys I get the feeling davo might not like Starbound.
I don’t know I might have to continue watching
I feel like you're reaching kinda hard there my guy
Dude that EU4 music at the end made your monologue to inspiring. I am ready for three mountains now.
You know its gonna be a good video when it starts with "Starbound sucks"
That’s how you can tell all of his videos are good
"I'm a massive simp" - Davo 2020
._.XD
me, at the end of the video: Oh shit did I accidentally start EU4? oh no thats just the music from the video....... I'm gonna play some EU4
Star Sector is one sand box that show the importance of a simulated economy in a sand box, the game feels alive because of it.
Kenshi also has a simulated economy, kill or steal enough from a faction and they will start to lose power and ground to others, yours (if you have one) included.
One of the reasons I really like converting saves in paradox grand strategy games. Being given a medieval era world in CK2 and seeing the world evolve around me right up until the late modern era in HOI4 is very satisfying to me. I've gotta find the motivation to edit my converted saves a bit though, as having China start as a major power in Vic2 was super cursed.
In the game Cataclysm:Dark Days Ahead, i was a martial artist/cop who escaped a building full of zombies and proceeded to run through the city. I met with a fellow (rockstar looking) survivor who i befriended, we then tried to get out of the city before i was killed by a swarm of zombies, and my friend was destroyed by a hulk!
There is a strong possibility I just spent 100 dollars on paradox content cause of the sale. There is also a strong possibility I only spent 20 dollars on 2 new actual games
@@acegamergoldie1008 give us vic 3
@@piolit06 I don't even know if I want that. They screwed up my boy hoi3 with that lackluster sequel and I fear they'll do it again to vicky 3. Probably will remove the pop system with the multiple social castes and do something more simplified.
Wait a minute, the sandbox genre seems to have a distinct lack of woopers.
In fact, the games that include woopers carefully go out of their way to not be sandboxes.
idk dude, i love building my base and my planet on star bound, and go around conquering the galaxy. The story has always been something in the background that is a fun challenge to do when your bored. Obviously it isn't as good as minecraft but that's a hard shelf to reach.
*laughs in my Eastfrisian, Orthodox, World spanning empire in Eu4*
*LAUGUS IN FANATIC XENOPHOBIC AND MILITARIST IMPERIUM OF MAN SPANNING THE ENTIRE GALAXY AND CLEANDED EVERY XENO IN STELLARIS*
@@TrusteeNail Based
Jr Pancakees Same tbh
Cataclysm DDA is another example of a perfectly executed sandbox, I'd personally rank it even higher than dwarf fortress.
This may sound unorthodox, but i originally subscribed to you because i saw a video you made critiqueing a subject so poorly i considered making a video myself critiquing your critique.
Suffice to say I think you've improved greatly in your ability to preform analyses and this video was actually well done! your thoughts were properly thought out and explained thoroughly with good examples and good editting. I feel you could've done more on the editting end but thats personal taste more than functionality. Keep up the good work!
EDIT: Starbound does suck
friendly reminder that today was launched the "journey's end" update for terraria, which is so full of content it is ridiculous.
A true swansong.
Man I love your videos and whenever I see one pop up I know it’s gonna be a good day.
i hope you love my videos as much as i love comments like this. thanks a bunch, gamer 👊😎
davo_ No problem, keep up the great work.
I used to love star bound. Me and my friend would play it for a whole summer. And then they added that dog piss story. I was okay with fighting bosses in the same spots over and over. But that story they added was just shit
Fat agree, man. I just couldn't fuckin' deal with it. Seeing it get abandoned with no hope for a new update feels shitty. Sunk 500 hours into that game, most of which was before that story.
Surprisingly good summary
I'm glad someone mentioned how incredibly satisfying terraria's progression is. I think it has the single best progression in any video game ever. To the point where I I can't even begin to try to analyze how genius it is because it just flies way over my head. And it all feels player driven. The game never "hands you" Items. Every time you get them, it feels completely like you're the one in charge.
I'm using videos like these as advice as I'm building my own sandbox game.
the idea for game play is to have two parts, the wilderness which is randomized each time you play so it can't be predictable and you have to explore everywhere, and puzzle rooms you have to find which need to be solved to slowly progress through the game. after you've completed enough puzzles you can go back to your spawn point and unlock a door which leads to the next level which is another randomized world.
I'm still building on the idea and plan to have some set of tools and items you carry around so you don't enter a new world naked but not entirely sure yet.
How did you know of my Etsi Suometsko Holy Empire!?
I think this video perfectly voiced my understanding of sandbox games. Now I can accurately explain to people why I enjoy them so much. Thank you.
*Starbound Breathing.
davo_ : REEEEEE.....
Telling your child about a sandbox game be like:
"Ah that game. I remember starting with wood armor and a small sword. At the end I became a human wielding lazer the goes faster than the speed of sound. Good times.."
Or/and
“Ah, starting with a fist to travelling at light speed in indestructible diamond armour with arrows that can one shot anything”
We all know warband is a banger of a game, even if it's not fully sandbox.
One of my favorite sandbox games of all time is OpenTTD. It's a must play for any sandbox fan. Especially with friends.
This is great! Glad I found your channel.
Ahh Paradox games. The only place where you can reform the Roman empire as a Turkish Jewish Byzantine Republic with a horse dynasty in the year 1769 and start World Wars because someone said they didn’t like your mustache or your diplomat disagreed with someone on whether red or blue looks better. Truly the ultimate world map sandbox games.
if you want a literal sandbox game play kenshi
Rewatching this, I like how you differentiate sandbox games and open world games. I like both for different reasons, but not I know there is an important difference. Thank you.
You have to star with differencing between a "sanbox" game and an "open world" game.
As most open world games ether lable themselves as "sanbox" games, while some has sandbox elements in it.
However many Open world games never claim to be sandbox games
sounding very energetic despite quarantine! good for you davo
I have played Minecraft for many thousands of hours, and I've been really down lately because something that I never thought would only happen when I'm in my grave has happened. Minecraft is failing to entertain me. I know just about everything there is to know about Minecraft, and the game mechanics are more familiar to me than my clothing size, and I think that it has been the best part of my life. Recently I took a break from minecraft and started playing Terraria, and I had more fun then the last time I played Minecraft. This made me feel really sad, the only times I really cried in the past few years was when they burned the merry in one piece, and when hopper died in stranger things, and this felt like one of those moments, I think the time has come for me to say goodbye to one of the best games ever made and maybe look back in a few years at my fun times in Minecraft with my friends
The eu4 music at his speech at then end fits so well
Me seeing the old medicine and stone chunk texture in rimworld
🤔
Gta V is a sandbox game because that’s the fun part.
There are infinite stories in eu4 if u get the el dorado dlc because u can make custom nations. I love just making custom nations and making stories behind them and just letting them play it out. Whenever I want to participate in new stories I just do random world and choose a nation and it’s different every time.
aw davo_ you're talking about sandboxes and include dwarf fortress but dont mention Cataclysm: Dark days ahead?
No Man's Sky is an example of a good sandbox game that still has a narrative. It achieves this by making this narrative secondary, optional and there is two different paths to take with it. The remainder of the game is sandbox-like with randomly generated missions to help you figure out what to do.
Ive been playing minecraft since 2011, when i was freaking 5 and i snuck into my brothers room and made my sister type the password in.The first i played the game, not the first id seen it, but play it. Today, i have 10000+ hours of gametime because it my only friend, which never let me down , or lied to me, i never had any actual friends back when i was little.
Very well put together all around, not only managed to be an entertaining video but also managed to expand my knowledge a bit on the genre. To be honest, to me Minecraft or Terraria was really the only game I would have considered a sandbox (due to the fact I grew up with those games mainly, so they tended to fill that genre for me), though I do suppose that it is true alot of the features found in those block world can also be found in even the Grand Strategies you've mentioned, although I would have never reached that conclusion myself even with the few hundreds of hours I've dumped into Paradox's Grand Strategies alone. Ramble over though, great video!
Your videos are amazingly well made, such an underrated channel 😤
I like your videos but I really do wish you would stop rubbing it in our faces how you dont like starbound. I personally really like the game and I do respect your opinion, but please. just calm down about it.
I already disagree with you on the story in a sandbox game thing. Plenty of great sandbox games have great stories, and cutscenes can usually be skipped and well as dialogue.
I was looking for game design videos and boy did I hit a gold source
For someone who hates starbound, davo has a lot of footage of it
Aw heck yeah, davo_ Dwarf Fortress video tease? Can't wait til that's released!
0:00 hey we went full circle!
Always need me a good dose of Dave declaring his hatred for Starbound
minecraft is the ultimate sandbox.
Want to find diamond tools?
1-strip mine and craft
2- cave dive and craft
3- treasure find and craft
4- speedrun nether portal and explore nether fortress
5- speedrun end fight and find end cities
6- trade with villagers
A sandbox relies on it’s ability to complete projects in different meaningful ways. Minecraft thrives off of it’s ability to make resource options that derive from multiple sources.
also hopefully those diamonds help you get armor before others do on your smp ;)
Davo_: dont put a storyline in your sandbox game
Subnautica: excuse the fuck
I've always felt weird about Terraria, since every youtube video I see about it is played with the wiki open in an attempt to play the game following a specific order.
Eu4 Isn't a sandox. There's one thing you absolutely have to do to progress: Unpause the game
Oh, I'm so glad you put Rimworld in the list, it's my favourite game!
I’m so happy to get off of night shift and see that davo_ posted a video
Motorsports Manager is another title that i would consider Sandbox. Your progression, win rates and tech development influences what the izher teams do.
TERRARIA UPDATE COMES OUT IN ONE HOUR DAVE. WHY DO YOU RELEASE THIS VIDEO NOW, TO TAUNT ME? I AM ALREADY SUFFERING.
"I'll admit it. I'm a massive simp" -davo_ 2020
Daymmm...
I remember when I was around 11 and starbound just was announced. My imagination exploded as I thought about endless potential and cool mind blowing stuff that could be in such a game. I was wondering how it would be feeling to experience such a gameplay in the future. Damn, the fact that I could DESTROY and PLACE virtual blocks while traveling through a universe with its own story and fighting some bastards was out of my compression.
And now its 2020.
First seconds of the video. I enjoyed that a lot xd
Imagine someone showing me this in the past lol
You made me sub after giving representation to the glorious Estonian Suomenusko Empire
Mount and Blade Warband. I started as a Rhodok adventurer, who believed that people deserve more freedom. He wanted to help the common people, and seeing the suffering of swadiand he decided to pledge his allegiance to king Harlaus. He saved Swadia from collapse, but when king Harlaus disrespected his hard work at helping the people of Swadia, he rebelled and declared the creation of Dhirim Republic, where he ended the serfdom and created a free, decentralised society. Because of this, he had a hard time building up relations with his new vassals, so he had to make a lot of hard decisions in order not to lose his relations with noble vassals and at the same time not to betray the common people. His Republic never had a goal to conquer the world, and just stayed as one humble but solid new country, willing to increase it's prosperity not from war, but trade.
Ayy comrade make a good video. Motherland would be proud
My faction started out as just two escaped slaves, running north when fled Rebirth until we reached the Northern Shore. We slowly started building a home and recruited more helpers for our cause, I am proud to announce we have finally openly antagonized the United Cites AND the Holy Kingdom.
Europa Universalis IV, over 600h but I still don't feel confident enough to play Ironman for achievements
Why?
"But how could you not be a simp?"
-Dave, 2020
Most underrated channel, prove me wrong!
Nothing can recreate the feeling of annexing most of Scandinavia in one war then proclaiming yourself Holy Roman Emperor
... But there are certain things that all sandbox titles, no matter to what degree, should do... and not do
*Can you tell me anything about the battle of Pendraic*
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In order to have fun with Starbound I have to abandon playing Legit so I can create interesting buildings and get a ship up and running without doing any part of the story because I find the game itself rather.. Lacking.
All I can say about Starbound is mods
How's that done? Is there a way to get around the fact that content is gated behind story events?
@@wolfieinu I would recommend getting a mod that allows you to spawn in items from the games code, and then using that mod to get an item called "Ship2" (Or anything above that)
The best sandbox is when you are 5 and discover that the chocolate cakes inside the sand are just cat poop.
i thought i subscribed to you months ago lol
top stuff fam
havent watched yet but I know it's about starbound
Davo with almost any video:Starbound bad, Terraria yes
im glad im not the only person that knows crosscode
Right now I'm in crippling debt playing as the northern most tribe in crusader kings II.
davo_ : It's May of 2020 and I still haven't made my obligatory "I hate Starbound" video. What to do? What to do? Oh, I know!
May 16th. davo_ release Making a Good Sandbox Game - or, Why I Still HATE Starbound 5 Years Later.
Rimworld is by far my favorite sandbox cause on one play through I can be a flake dealer colony and the next a organ harvesting colony
Sandbox+roguelike = profit?
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Subnautica: *am i a joke to you?*
Starbound used to be way cooler in the beta and alpha. When 1.0 came out I was so fucking upset. In the beta every planet was different and every creature was randomly generated, so every playthrough was different. I remember playing the beta and having no idea how to survive in asteroids (which in that time where full of minerals and structures) so it was a real adventure.
3rd Starbound video?! Wow
1:30 Why did you not bring a water bucket to the end?/!?/!/1?/!/!
So I really like starbound, but mostly because the movement and combat feels so good. The grappling hook is a strong 10/10 for me. I fully agree that the story and theme make for some bad moments, but... We'll I just ignore them. I get that you might not like it though. To each their own.
Huh, the combat feels bland to me,at least in caves but building and exploring is fun
I almost exclusively play Paradox games and other sandbox titles now thanks to EU4, I was always a fan of creating my own story in a game but that shit has been like crack to me, 4000 hours later and I still love it.
People justifiably shit on Paradox for their DLC policies but I honestly can't think of any other title that has given me so many hours with so little monetary input, especially when compared to AAA 60 dollar titles that MIGHT offer a good experience that'll only last you ~20 hours max.
How do you feel about direction in sandbox games? I feel like in a lot of sandbox survival games I have played there is no direction to what I should be doing. I think if a new player comes to terraria or even minecraft it can be a little daunting if you don't know what you are doing. On the other hand I feel like telling the player what to do is a bad idea. When I first played stardew valley I really did not enjoy it because all I was doing was following the to do list. It kind of sucks that you have to go in to great games like these by watching a playthrough first and if you are playing with friends it feels like you are just following them around while they are the ones actually playing the game. Are there any ways at all of letting the player enjoy the game as soon as they go into it like games from other genres?
One day, I’ll learn how to play Dwarf Fortress
7:09 Estonia!
*Suomenusko Estonian Empire
*Southern Finland
*Northern Lithuania.
Can you guys recommend some good sandbox games please? :) I am looking for more sandbox games!
@Peppermint odd realm is a game like DW/Rimworld if you want something cheaper too!
"space engineers" can be fun with friends!
the Civ games can be considered sandbox games (civ 6 is free on the epic games store right now if you use it)
Europa Universalis 4 and Hearts Of Iron 4 are sandbox games
Crusader Kings 2 is a game made by the same people who made EU4 and CK2, and its free!
Cities Skylines is like sim city.
planet coaster and planet zoo is cool too
for a game with a plot, star wars: empire at war has a bit of storytelling, but you are allowed to do your own thing, and the sandbox aspects are also a core part of the game.
From The Depths is a very complex game, and while it has a plot it has little to do with the gameplay
Avorion is a space sandbox game
Banished is another city building game
Also gonna mention Stellaris before I go!
KSP if you're into building and semi-realism
And as said above, rimworld is an amazing choice
Ah yes 8 minutes of pure Starbound demolition with facts and Terraria.
its 6 am here in Seattle
Shouldn’t it be like 5 am?
@@ethanbolt10 yeah you're right homie, I looked at a clock that I fucked up
damn vro........
@@davo_ I punched the clock too hard
2:38 *OH MY GOD FINALLY PRESS STRG*
I bEt yOu pLaCe wAlLs oNe bY oNe (_wItHoUt sTrG_)
Terraria is my childhood so I need to get this out of the way to continue breathing
You could do a review on Hearts of Iron 4, since you already covered EU4 and CK2.