LOKI 2x3 "1893" Reaction & Spoiler Review! | Tom Hiddleston | Owen Wilson
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Our god of mischief, Loki (Tom Hiddleston - Thor, Thor: The Dark World) is back! So glad to see him along side with Mobius (Owen Wilson - Wedding Crashers, Starsky, Hutch). Also glad to see other reoccurring characters such as Slyvie (Sophia Di Martino - Yesterday) & Hunter B-15 (Wunmi Mosaku - His House). We're even more excited to see Ke Huy Quan (Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Everything Everywhere All at Once) in his new role in the series.
Other stars in the series are: Gugu Mbatha-Raw (Belle, Concussion), Tara Strong (The Powerpuff Girls, Batman: The Killing Joke), Eugene Codero (The Good Place, Tacoma FD) & Jonathan Majors (Lovecraft Country, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania)
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Shout out to Tara Strong. She absolutely brought it in this episode as Miss Minutes.
I keep imagining Twilight from my little pony 😂 since that was her character for manny years 😭
The clock should be a stupid character but she made it somewhat ‘serious!’
11:00 that's a point I never even thought about. It's like Doctor Strange said, dreams are windows into the lives of our multiversal selves. It adds a whole other dimension to Kang's conflict with his variants.
Miss minutes is so creepy
I think she is meant to be added symbolism for the idea of free will that has been reoccurring
Imagine A.I loves you 😶
@@yassarafaaf4307 at least you got that AI and she/he won't cheat on you😂
*sexy
I knew she was ever since she stripped Loki with a wink in season 1!
After watching Loki S2:E3 I can TOTALLY see why Disney/Marvel doesn't want to have to get rid of JM if they don't have to!
I wasn't 100% behind it at the beginning, but by the scene on the boat with Ravonna...and the "partner" scene. I totally got it. Was it just me or did his stutter come and go? Which also made me suspect? I'm holding off on calling Timely good just yet.
JM?
@@yassarafaaf4307 Jonathan Majors the one playing Victor Timely.
@@nellybell32 He was exceptional. I have never judged her for this marital affair and I prefer to let justice take its course. What is certain is that this should not prevent us from being impartial about his work and he was phenomenal in this episode. I finally have hope in the MCU again.
Awesome fucking acting
Jonathan Majors crushed it this episode. Who else wants to see a "Miss Minutes" meets "Ultron"?
😰😨😱What if Ultron + Miss Minutes = Destruction
@@Shaddictedak
I'm thinking more of a subversion of expectations.
Think "snippets of the two of them together on a wholesome date"
They could be one in the same, as Miss Minutes could be a variant of Ultron would be a fun one
It felt like I was watching a broadway play. Jonathan majors killed it..agreed!
@@SpeakerOfWordsIt doesn't make sense, Ultron was created by Tony and Bruce, Miss Minute was created by Victor
Victor Timely, Miss Minutes and Sylvie are all tragic victims of the original Kang in many ways.
Miss Minutes because all she wanted from Kang was love, which being the evil bastard he is used that to ensure her loyalty and nothing else. Sylvie because like Victor, she is a variant who had her life ruined because she wanted break the cycle and be a good person. And Victor because he is much like Leonardo Da Vinci or Nikola Tesla, a genius ahead of his time who wants to genuinely make the world a better place, but is a victim of forces beyond his control, just like Sylvie.
the fact that Timely basically got past Sylvie's murder intent was to essentially use her own words about "choice" against her. And her choice to send Ravonna to end of time...means she will likely regret that decision.
For some reason i cant move past the fact that Timely is a trickster and a fraud. It was clear he wanted to go to the TVA on his own accord and he is heading there now. He will pull a quick on for sure.
How else would he learn about time travelling. I dont think the concept of time travelling is in the notebook
My theory based on what victor said about OB is that kang uses OB as kind of his memory card and also the meaning of his name being a symbol of the snake eating it’s own tail (ala a loop) show’s OBs significance to the arrival of kang. I think kang has let OB keep his memory so that he ALWAYS writes the tva manual and is the keeper of said manual who never interacts with anyone who can interrupt his purpose. And in turn eventually when the loom fails, and kangs presence is needed, that manual will somehow find its way into a new timeline where kang is born. Thus repeating the process over and over again.
Good theory
Good theory! How many times has Ravona done this I wonder. But why OB and not miss minutes? Other than miss minutes is complexly nuts.
Nah
About the costumes, I’m 99.9% sure the wardrobe department dressed the entire background. The designer created a color palette and it was year specific, so yeah, head to toe. Retired IATSE #705 here 😁
Miss minutes is literally a real evil artificial intelligence. And only when he is not with kang and is with Ravonna. It becomes all chaotic.🥶
And Crrepy, imagine AI loves you
@@yassarafaaf4307 It's weird, Miss minute appears to be creepy but then we have had Vision who was in love with Wanda which is completely okay.
@@MJAY552 Vision has physical body, if Vision still in Jarvis form and he love Wanda it's kinda creepy to. It's like you have relationship with a ghost
Do you thing Ravonna is a female variant of Kang?
@@stevenkies802no. In the comics ravonna is kang's wife, and she couldn't have existed in first season because Kang wouldn't let a variant of himself roam around freely
Whoever made Achara the ad girl, is absolute genius… I could listen to her talk forever
Putting the Victor Timely scene after Quantumania was a really smart choice (and is now retroactively the best thing about that movie) because the association with Kang creates an immediate expectation of Victor which this episode subverts brilliantly.
But does it? I mean yeah we feel for him by the end of the episode but there were small hints throughout this episode that he might be a Kang. The fact that he is a trickster and liar and that he actively wanted to go to the TVA either with loki or with renslayer and even after they ditched her.
Exactement. Very smart
@@shivamsud I would say you could read those as hints, but just as plausibly read them as plain old character flaws/traits. Regardless, seeing him right after Quantumania, your first assumption is that this version is also malevolent.
Johnathon Majors is a rare actor that makes you forget its cinema and makes you believe that what you are watching is real.. amazing talent! I hope Kang stays for a Long time and that that Majors stays in the MCU for anlong time as his own variant
Bravo!!!! Bravo!!!👏🏽👏🏽 Jonathan majors is so far 3/3 playing himself. Marvel made a smart decision in keeping him. Best actor in the MCU right now 💯💯🔥🔥
Playing himself?
@@BluEx22329Part of the success of the MCU was/is casting actors who can naturally apply their own persona into the role. Starting with RDJ as Tony Stark.
Some of the characters in this episode were sincerely creepy af. I highly appreciate that they fleshed out the characters and motives in this season beyond having done so for Loki, Mobius and Sylvie in the first season. I didn't expect this much depth for MM, Timely and Ravonna. God, MM is just too creepy for words though. From whimsical to the worst stalker in the world nightmare fuel in a single episode. Burn it with fire. Destroy everywhere molecule.
That was another fun episode and Majors acting just proves why his was picked to play Kang. I can't wait to see how all this plays out. Miss Minutes got freaky in this one which threw me off for a second. Never expected to see pent up sexual frustration in an AI lifeform.
Enjoyed the reaction 👍👍✌out
I think Sylvie is full of sexual frustration as well!
Majors is doing a bad job. Stop dickriding. This is one of the worst character performances ever.
The beast, Aliath (probably misspelling, the thing that eats everything in the Void in season 1!) is the bundled anger/rage energy of multiple Renslayer variants! 🤔 😋
If Miss Minutes and Ultron fall in love the whole world is fucked 😂
That's what I thought too 😂
This episode sorta laid the groundwork for an answer for a question I had that I couldn't find a definitive answer to; could someone be pruned outside of the TVA. We've only seen people pruned in the TVA, the only things we've seen pruned outside of it are timelines. Which I guess include people, but we dont see what happens to those people directly only the ground the Prune Bomb thing was placed on. When Renslayer was using the Proto-Pruner to threaten Victor Timely and destroyed the dummy sort of told me "it could definitely be possible".
@CinePals,
12:10 Well, Kang is a man obsessed with time, so much so that he conquered--For All Time. Always.
What inspired a clock design? Time. What represents time? A clock.
13:50 There's truth to this and we heard about it last season and saw it in Quantumaina too--for a time Nathaniel Richards (He Who Remains) and his Variants worked together...until they didn't and started a Multiversal War with one another. But we also heard Kang in the first episode talking with Ravonna and how she helped him win the war. This is something the story is sure to build on in the stories to come. There's more to HWR and Ravonna, and I think it was pretty much spelled out to us in the first episode and hinted at in this story too--they are an item in the comics!
Last season, many of us likely assumed Ravonna was being flippant when she told Sylvie that she couldn't remember what Sylvie's Nexus Event was, but when you couple that with everyone else at the TVA having their mind wiped, you might think there's more to all this. Who oversaw all the administrative side of the TVA? Miss Mintues! He Who Remains was busy overseeing the flow of time at his Citadel at the End of Time. OB pretty much confirmed that last in the first episode when he told us that Miss Minutes took care of the Temporal Loom and that he only needed to run diagnostics for her every 300 hundred years or so.
Miss Minutes is a jealous AI that wants more, and she's been running her own schemes behind the scenes. Sylvie created an opening, and she's moving on it, hard! She has a variant of the man she loves who doesn't fully understand what she is, and who isn't up to speed with is more knowledgeable self yet. Miss Minutes is very likely the one that mind-wiped everyone at the TVA, the one responsible for HWR giving up the game after ruling for millions of years while still in good health.
"I've been dubbed many names by many people, a ruler, a conqueror, He Who Remains, a jerk."
--He Who Remains
I always thought Ravonna was the one who called him a jerk, but was he really? Did Miss Minutes sabotage their relationship? Is that why everyone at the TVA, save for OB, had their minds wiped? Is this also why one of the statutes inside the Citadel at the End of Time was broken? Did Miss Minutes break up the two lover birds and then erase Ravonna's mind, making her forget about HWR?
14:15 See all the clocks on the walls Jaby? That's likely why Miss Minutes is shaped like a clock. Victor always has time on his mind. You sort of mentioned this earlier when Victor spoke about dreams, but if you recall from Multiverse of Madness, dreams are Variants seeing their other own variants in the Multiverse in their sleep.
17:49 I don't doubt that what Miss Minutes has to say is going to make Ravonna angry, but is it the truth? Miss Minutes wants Ravonna out of the picture, and whatever she tells her, will do just that.
Miss Minutes is a problem. She's Ultron on Multiversal Steroids! We saw what happened when Ultron got a body, but you sure gotta wonder what would happen if Miss Minutes got one. HWR knows about Ultron, and that's probably why he NEVER gave Miss Minutes a body. Yikes!
Awesome reaction you two 🔥. Miss Minutes just climbed up on the creepy meter. She's scary 😅😂
Its not exactly chicken and the egg circle, the actual he who returns died... He chose this variant of himself from branched timeline to replace him .. this version of him isn't from the future but from the past & more compassionate maybe that's why he choose him.. whenever they put in the timestamp its written if its from sacred timeline or branced timeline
THANKS for this, you two!!!!
ngl but this is by far a favourite react from you guys this episode gave yall different expressions🔥
3:28 Chicken or the egg? Full circle? The snake that eats its tail? Oroboros?
He did the thing he was most afraid of- being alone, sacrificed what he really wanted- being with his friends. At the end, he got his throne and became king of all time, truly burdened with glorious purpose, but alone for eternity. He finally won, but I'm in tears.
The most terrifying episode . Jonathan Majors should be in the MCU
He was exceptional. I finally have hope in the MCU again.
9:10 probably the first time I laughed at a jaby's joke so much 🤣🤣🤣
3:25 Understandable man! 😂💪
Until you said it I didn't pay attention and forgot that dreams in the MCU is a different version of you in a different universe. I was wondering how he dreamt of the TVA and how he created it
This is where the fun begins
Victor Timely: Dreamer, Inventor, Innovator, Loner, Luminary, Disruptor, Visionary with a quivering persona and quavering voice.
Exceptional.
Great reaction!❤😊
Jonathan Majors is a talented Actor indeed 👈🏾👏🏾💯🔥🔥
Tom Hiddleston is also one of those people that doesn’t seem to age at all…😳
4:47
Jaby: "That's the name of the company."
Me: "Temporal?"
I always wondered why in Majors performance he talks really slowly as every variant of kang
Yeah I always just assumed it’s the study of time and knowledge that time isn’t linear so neither is his speech pattern
Why ?
Victor Timely/Kang....the last name Timely is an Easter egg for Marvel fans.
Timely Comics is the common name for the group of corporations that was the earliest comic book arm of American publisher Martin Goodman, and the entity that would evolve by the 1960s to become Marvel Comics.
Amazing episode.
'Powerful guy becomes stupid so he can't interfere with the plot' A.K.A the Flash problem.
So the date/location when renslayer first comes is sacred timeline, and the 1893 date is branched timeline (they are labeled as such). So HWR sent Ramona back to him on the Sacred Timeline, and her actions caused a branch. So Timely, up until that point, was Victor also. They are even more the same person than other variants can be. So he himself (not the other kang variants) gets back on the TVA throne, this time with Loki as a mentor. Maybe. Hard to tell because remember, Poor bumbling Victor is a conman. It would all be part of a con.
Wouldn't be surprised if Victor turns into an evil Kang and Ravonna turns out to be a Kang variant 😄
That's something interesting and maybe true 😮🤔
Im SAG-AFTRA actress and I really miss working on these types of shoots! When everything is as live as possible. I hope the strike ends soon and we can return to your screens
I just realized something, Loki's future self pruned his present self in Ep 1, right?
Not confirmed, but highly speculated.
That wouldn’t make sense tho if he’s going back and forth in the same timeline. His time travel may not necessarily be time hopping. It seems to be more like using the time stone where the past can effect the future (aka the grandfather paradox). So in that case there would only be one Loki, not multiple. So it would have to be someone else. Cause if we abide by normal movie Grandather paradox rules, pruning himself would also prune the old one too. Oh wait that would make sense because they did say he would be ripping all versions of himself from the timeline right? Or am I mistaken?
@@TheIcemanthomas all incorrect versions, yes. That's what pruning does. But since as of yet the sacred timeline is all botched up and Loki is basically a time glitch, he would be pruned from all timelines, only to be pulled into the correct one via Mobius.
@@TheIcemanthomas It's the way Sylvie reacted to Loki being there. She wasn't at all surprised to see him meaning she had to have seen him moments ago, hence her line "there you are".
Also the only person that would know to prune Loki in that scenario is himself cause future Loki knows that on some particular day in the past, he was supposed to be pruned but time slipped into the future, so future Loki knows what to do in that moment.
I could be wrong but this is the only thing that makes sense to me right now
Thought the same back then
it would be cool if it's revealed that Renslayer is a Kang variant that was stolen from her timeline and got her memories wiped.
great show so far. love the set pieces, all in a loop/labyrinth and the ''one shots''. holmes and watson....chefs kiss. the details and effort, the actors get to play on real sets and costumes. tremendous. can't wait where it ends and also leads to
why do i feel like Ravonna is another variant of Kang whose memory was erased by He who remains and didnt wanna kill her but keep her instead coz he loves her?
So narcisstic love like the one between Loki and Sylvie. This would mean she is a Kang variant and can be the next He Who Remains. Ravonna is not a scientist though but she may have been a science teacher before being a principle. Furthermore, fhe reason why Loki has a female version of himself is because he can shapeshift into whoever or whatever he wants. Kang is just a normal human being. Loki's identity can be changed but Kang is born a particular person.
Nah, there was literally a scene in the first season showing her past life being a teacher
Loki is powerfull but he try to use his power a little he can... remember in those timeline odin still alive and if they notice his power they will come down to earth early and create another timeline he is try to leave a less frootprint on any timeline he go
Best ep so far this season
One more example why Ai is so dangerous 😶🌫️
At least you'll get someone who loves you
15:15 straight out of aliens
it's really the old fashion way on how disney did these set peieces. real actor and extras on live set pieces..atleast as far as the ferrie wheel goes i assume
Gabby saying "marvels" is the name of the company. When I watched this episode, it finally hit me that Victor "Timely" is a callback to the company before Marvel, Timely Comics.
From He Who Remains, to He Who Is Remains
I feel like this episode was a reference to the bootstrap paradox
The ladies this episode. This was a good episode they made you feel for victor. and I think it's about to setup alot and antman 3 is going to influence what we may see next with this show. I feel like but we will see.
MCU will show "Lady Kang" after showing us - lady Thor , lady loki , lady captain America, lady Hulk , lady Ironman, lady black panther, lady Taskmaster, lady Hawkeye, lady antman , lady GHOST .... . Lady Kang should not surprise to anyone now.😅😂😂
My Daughter and I Loved this that's not a variant Victor Timley is He Who He Remains Remember season 1 I'm alot older than I look that's him he set this up and he's not all bad.Remember Silvey had ultimate Tempad it was He Who Remains
That comparison with Sarah Connor and Miles Dyson was quite apt.
I see Ryan George has infected Jaby's vocab as he's done ours
Miss minute is the real baddass
This episode should've been titled bitches be crazy.
6:51 Loki could just conjure up an unlimited amount of money and *BUY* the loom!
To be fair, Timely doesn't seem like all his choices were his, they were chosen for him
Predestination Paradox.
Thats actually a misnomer that people in the late 1800’s couldn’t read.
Why would loki use his powers to capture victor and potentially scare him or make him think they are the enemy which would not be in their favor, plus its loki powers he can use them as he please
If Sylvie killed Timely would that have changed the course other than he who remains since Kang himself is from the 31st century?
Victor is a mad scientist. In fact all the Kangs are mad scientists.
This is my theory :
Miss Minute is pretending to be in love with Kang. If she finds a real body she will take control of TVA either by killing Kang or subduing him.
Ms. Minutes? Someone begged for even a small role in the MCA. When she complained this is 1 dimensional Ms. Minutes was born.
Good réaction guys,i enjoyed this episode
Watch him side by side to He Who Remains same mannerism
I can't lie the music was great this ep
Ouroborous
It's not really a "chicken and the egg" situation. Or a literal loop. Victor Timely may end up on the same path as He Who Remains, but he isn't _literally_ He Who Remains. So giving Victor the TVA guidebook isn'tt a chicken & egg scenario since it's all different timelines.
Please react to “THAT THING YOU DO!” from 1996, directed by Tom Hanks.
Now what if Miss Minutes gets a body for herself by the end?
partnership and the get dropped in live saving boat...that's cruel asf. a commentary on rulers and civilians as it ever was
Isn’t Victor Kang’s ancestor?
timely is the ORIGINAL name of the company so its on there TWICE
Oh that's interesting, I didn't know that!!
btw if you havent noticed the russian flag is wrong in in the beginning of the episode where they were about to enter the fair. may be it is deliberate but yeah...
The relationship between Kang and Ms Minutes reminds me a lot of Peter Pan and Tinkerbell in this episode. She always been by his side and he cares for her but doesn't love her, so kinda how Tinkerbell was jealous of Wendy, I noticed Ms Minutes was getting jealous of Renslayer when they were flirting on the boat.
miss minutes was afraid of he who remains 🤔
Shane about Jonathan Majors and Tara Strong.
Yeah let’s do everything efficient and sensible so there is nothing to watch. Plus let’s just do crazy magical stuff for everyone to see thus branching timelines.
Loki hasn't used his powers much hardly at all, especially in the first season many times where it could have been useful. Not in the TVA, but in the crumbling time and other settings. Maybe he's too powerful so they have to keep him from using his full powers? I don't really understand the decision, and it makes Loki seem dumb to mainly use his powers as parlor tricks but not in dire situations.
Epitome of Nerfed. Also, he’s an Asgardian ( or Frost Giant) and has comparable strength to them, so he should have no trouble chasing Humans down an alley or moving even the biggest of mortals around with ease. I guess you can rationalize it as he is holding back because of it’s not necessary or he prefers Magic and wizardry. But, this is the same guy who survived a Hulk smashing and threw Cap around.
He also has diverse powers like Telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation and other interesting ones. Hope they make him use them all.
Everyone saw miss minute that's why it's on tony stark t-shirt maybe
If kang is that smart everything that happened this episode was supposed to happen
I can see glaring hints of that..plus u can't forget Ouroboros being the title of the first episode aswell as a character that has been mentioned in all 3 episodes by some other character than himself. And the meaning of the name puts the final nail in the theory
It's gonna be that they are married and he erased her mind
Producer guy: How did Mobius and Loki know where Viktor's lab was?
Screenwriter guy: Unclear.
This episode went all minority report on us: destiny/predetermination/fate versus free will/choice, can you summarily judge and harshly punish a person for the terrible heinous crimes that they MIGHT commit in a POSSIBLE future, by a VARIANT version of themselves? gg no re, once again i truly loved this episode, i hate having to wait until next week to see next episode....loved 1893 Chicago World Fair settings/design!!!
Finally paid off the full version of the post-credit scene from Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania!!!
You can perceive how unsure, nervous, uncertain Victor Timely is of himself and the world around him, genius yes but he is also very lonely, afraid of attachment to others...quite the doubting thomas if you will believe....what a performance by Jonathan Majors....clear difference in the delineations between Victor Timely, He Who Remains, Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, Immortus, and of course KANG THE CONQUEROR....all variants of NATHANIEL RICHARDS!!!!
P.S. what's the secret about Ravonna Renslayer does Miss Minutes know? Any theories yet?!!!!
"Can you judge and punish a person for the terrible heinous crimes that they MIGHT commit" I think in Moon Knight there's the same debate, like, you would execute a child for a crime they MIGHT commit in the future.
"What's the secret about Ravonna Renslayer does Miss Minutes know" judging by the recording that Loki heard back in episode 1, apparently Renslayer was a partner or something of HWR, but got her memory erased at some point. So the secret could be related to their relationship in the past. He mentioned that with her help, he could win the multiversal war. What could rival the power of a Kang? Another Kang, perhaps?
Oliath (I think that's how you spell it!) is the negative energy of multiple Renslayer variants, all bundled up and weaponised by Kang/Timely!
@@tanthokg same could apply to twins....one good and one bad, you can't punish the innocent just because they look like and they are related to the guilty.
Miss minutes like kang more than Ramona 😅
I have the same complaint Jaby has, Loki could have stopped all that nonsense when they were going after Kang, he is a God! Silvey is the only one that seem to always remember they can use magic!
Loki also is someone who loves a challenge and loves the thrill. Using his powers all the time would be too easy. Even in the movies he liked to talk first and magic later. He’s cunning and always plotting with his words as to be predictably unpredictable. Silvie never got to develop to that degree. All she knows is her power because she’s always had to use it for her survival.
And èven in the comics loki barely used his power until a last resort. He used them to turn into others but other times he relied on deception and trickery that's why he's known as the trickster god.
I like season 2 more than the first season
In India, the episode was released with the name "Episode 9" not 1893... What's going on??
Someone counted season one over there as part of the number.
God I love Jonathan majors 😭😭
G2A still existis? That's crazy...
I always have issues with power sets in the MCU. However I’ve just decided to take it as the powers work for whatever the situation is.