0:00 - ’87 recap, Bobby Allison update 1:00 - Davey Allison interview 1:57 - restrictor plate segment 3:25 - starting lineup 4:55 - green flag 6:39 - caution - 6-car pile-up 9:10 - restart, #17 leading 9:53 - #55 takes the lead 14:50 - safety segment 16:59 - Phil Parsons interview 18:30 - #44 takes the lead 18:45 - #3 takes the lead 28:00 - green flag pit sequence starts 30:03 - #4 takes the lead 32:50 - #44 takes the lead 42:20 - #4 takes the lead 46:29 - “halfway” 54:35 - caution - #77 spin; #9 saved from going down a lap 1:04:39 - restart, #3 leading 1:14:03 - #25 & #3 battle for the lead 1:16:58 - caution - #44 crash 1:24:54 - restart 1:26:45 - lead change 1:44:08 - white flag 1:47:58 - victory lane 1:49:03 - runner up interview
I don’t understand why Earnhardt didn’t go with him when he made his move. Would have made more sense to help Rick win since he wasn’t a points threat. Oh well...he was close
It was really something to watch Elliott and Wilson come back through the field starting at 1:04:39, after Bill was almost down a lap...Wilson thanked him for pulling him along before that for several laps by not fighting him to keep him down a lap at 54:35, and that might have cost him.
Dumb question - I wasn’t alive yet in 88 but love watching these old races. Can someone explain to me how/why the cup cars sound so much more...’menacing’ is a word...back then, than they do now? It’s not too horrible of a difference like F1 v10s sounding infinitely better than the current platform, but these older cup cars do seem to have a deeper/fuller sound than the current cars
Because in 88 you had probly 30 engine builders pushing everthing they could get out of a engine .they were pushing the envelope to the edge.now you have 3 guys building all the engines an in next 5 years they will all be built by same guy ever car will run nascars spec engine.the cars today are not pushed to the edge thats why you see no blowed engines.they should take the rev limit limitor off .people like Kyle Bush would have never won in this era you had to take care of your car back then or it wouldn't last now days the driver gets in holds it wide open an don't have to worry about nuthi g except that dady has enuff money to buy them a ride
Headers ....header angle degree of h pipe the fuel ...injectors to carburetor grade of gas ...differ gen engine size of plate. Several things can change the sound the aero packages chasi. Lots more really when comes down to it
Like Booher said, over time the teams with the same manufacturers started working together on engines, and eventually the engines were made and distributed to the teams by the manufacturers. They've also made more and more changes (starting with the restrictor plates) to reduce flow, to cut power and keep speeds down, and the idling sounds a lot different because they were using mechanical timing back then, the ECU makes it idle higher & smoother to protect the engine. Other than that, the basic engine geometry and everything is the same as it was in the 80s, that's why they don't sound as different as F1 cars from back then. I also think the sound engineering on the broadcasts now takes away a lot of the growl of the engines because in person they don't seem nearly as tame as they do on TV.
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Morgan Shepherd drove for (if i remember right) six different teams in '88. The next race after this, at Pocono, he subbed for Neil Bonnett, who had surgery, and put the 75 car on the pole. Shepherd also subbed for Buddy Baker later in the year.
@@BSNFabricating I had totally forgotten about him driving all those cars. And I watched every race that was broadcasted back then. You really know your Nascar.
Paul Page, the long time voice of Champ / Indy Cars commentating on a NASCAR race (Page is to Indy Cars what Murray Walker was to F1). There is something you don't see every day.
It is interesting that by 1988, GM had introduced the new W-body design in their Oldsmobile (Cutlass), Pontiac (Grand Prix) and Buick (Regal) lines, but stuck with the older Monte Carlo for another year under the Chevrolet brand before the Lumina went into production.
This was my first NASCAR race. I was 21 and figured out 400 mi. was the perfect distance for a 12 pack and no bathroom break. These days a it is half a beer n 30 miles. Still remember them firing up Bobby Allison's show car in the middle of the crowd outside the stands.
I was a Chevy fan in those days but you are right. Nobody could keep up with Bill Elliot with his brother Earnie building those insane engines fir him.
I really do wonder how many of DE's wins were with "legit" equipment. NASCAR let him get away with just about anything, both in driving technique and technical matters.
And the reason this isnt cited as one of the best finishes of alltime is? No difference between Ruud Matinsville win and this, 2 cars glued together lol
@@brianbooher7318 maaaaann I dunno. That Bills son out there in the 9 now. I can see where they might wanna keep Million Dollar Bill season details somewhat under wraps what with that surreal dominance coming from all of that sudden mysterious extra horsepower that not even Rarnhardt could keep up with out of nowhere...
I believe this Chevy came from Hoss Ellington and was a former #1 Bull's Eye BBQ Sauce Monte Carlo in 1987 for Ron Bouchard & Brett Bodine. Used earlier in 1988 for Dale Jarrett
Bill wins this race with a bad car and loses his very last race on the last lap at Homestead in 2003 after totally dominating. Never underestimate the luck factor in NASCAR!
ABC’s broadcast team in the booth then was horrible. Dry with just basic knowledge. Hated when they carried the races until the ESPN crew started handling the duties.
Rutherford is a real man he had to have 10 pounds balls between his legs to have as many big crashes as he had an get right back in one of them death traps
He liked that move. 'Dale knows Sterling has a fast car". My mom and dad went to this race in the infield. I went to grandma's same with the 1989 400 race.
@@buddywilliams5650 I’m in Wisconsin BUT my dad lives 30 minutes - 1 hour away from track BUT that was THEN…and this is now. I’ve been to Daytona Beach….in December 😬.
Vine Wood with all my heart with so much better driver than Elliott how come he wouldn't take the leap from in my buddy that's cuz he didn't have a prayer and keeping with that damn 9
God damn autocorrect I hate it if iron heart was so great have you just take the lead at any time why didn't you just come right on up there and do it and take the lead from Elliot he was right there in the 3rdplace
0:00 - ’87 recap, Bobby Allison update
1:00 - Davey Allison interview
1:57 - restrictor plate segment
3:25 - starting lineup
4:55 - green flag
6:39 - caution - 6-car pile-up
9:10 - restart, #17 leading
9:53 - #55 takes the lead
14:50 - safety segment
16:59 - Phil Parsons interview
18:30 - #44 takes the lead
18:45 - #3 takes the lead
28:00 - green flag pit sequence starts
30:03 - #4 takes the lead
32:50 - #44 takes the lead
42:20 - #4 takes the lead
46:29 - “halfway”
54:35 - caution - #77 spin; #9 saved from going down a lap
1:04:39 - restart, #3 leading
1:14:03 - #25 & #3 battle for the lead
1:16:58 - caution - #44 crash
1:24:54 - restart
1:26:45 - lead change
1:44:08 - white flag
1:47:58 - victory lane
1:49:03 - runner up interview
Thank you
I was at this race. Just turned twelve years old and was introduced to the infield party culture. Totally awesome.
Rick Wilson's best shot at a victory; shame he never had one in the Winston Cup.
I don’t understand why Earnhardt didn’t go with him when he made his move. Would have made more sense to help Rick win since he wasn’t a points threat. Oh well...he was close
Actually he was close at 88’ Coca Cola 600, blew a tire while way ahead late. There were others...
@@MyKittyPercy He was preoccupied with blocking DW, they almost wrecked each other and it left Wilson by himself.
Bill the man putting it to them. Awesome
It was really something to watch Elliott and Wilson come back through the field starting at 1:04:39, after Bill was almost down a lap...Wilson thanked him for pulling him along before that for several laps by not fighting him to keep him down a lap at 54:35, and that might have cost him.
This is great thanks for posting! In my opinion this as close as "plate" racing should have gotten.
Dumb question - I wasn’t alive yet in 88 but love watching these old races. Can someone explain to me how/why the cup cars sound so much more...’menacing’ is a word...back then, than they do now? It’s not too horrible of a difference like F1 v10s sounding infinitely better than the current platform, but these older cup cars do seem to have a deeper/fuller sound than the current cars
Because in 88 you had probly 30 engine builders pushing everthing they could get out of a engine .they were pushing the envelope to the edge.now you have 3 guys building all the engines an in next 5 years they will all be built by same guy ever car will run nascars spec engine.the cars today are not pushed to the edge thats why you see no blowed engines.they should take the rev limit limitor off .people like Kyle Bush would have never won in this era you had to take care of your car back then or it wouldn't last now days the driver gets in holds it wide open an don't have to worry about nuthi g except that dady has enuff money to buy them a ride
Headers ....header angle degree of h pipe the fuel ...injectors to carburetor grade of gas ...differ gen engine size of plate. Several things can change the sound the aero packages chasi. Lots more really when comes down to it
If you watch his upload of the 1987 Firecracker 400, they sound even better during those long stretches where the announcers are quiet.
Like Booher said, over time the teams with the same manufacturers started working together on engines, and eventually the engines were made and distributed to the teams by the manufacturers. They've also made more and more changes (starting with the restrictor plates) to reduce flow, to cut power and keep speeds down, and the idling sounds a lot different because they were using mechanical timing back then, the ECU makes it idle higher & smoother to protect the engine. Other than that, the basic engine geometry and everything is the same as it was in the 80s, that's why they don't sound as different as F1 cars from back then. I also think the sound engineering on the broadcasts now takes away a lot of the growl of the engines because in person they don't seem nearly as tame as they do on TV.
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Right in the middle of the Goodyear vs Hoosier tire war, yet no mention of it on the broadcast, other than Elliott saying that he had blistered one
Not surprising, considering it's an ABC broadcast.
This was my first NASCAR race I attended. Lots of people and, lots of fun. Rudd finished 22 :(
Had to be awesome
Morgan Shepherd in the Skoal Bandit!
Harry Gant had been out sinse world 600 with a broken leg
Morgan Shepherd drove for (if i remember right) six different teams in '88. The next race after this, at Pocono, he subbed for Neil Bonnett, who had surgery, and put the 75 car on the pole. Shepherd also subbed for Buddy Baker later in the year.
@@BSNFabricating I had totally forgotten about him driving all those cars. And I watched every race that was broadcasted back then. You really know your Nascar.
@@BSNFabricatingThat's when he was called Super Sub.
Paul Page, the long time voice of Champ / Indy Cars commentating on a NASCAR race (Page is to Indy Cars what Murray Walker was to F1). There is something you don't see every day.
Sorta like when Bob Jenkins was calling IndyCar races for a while there. Had to get used to it.
And getting used to seeing Lonestar JR calling a NASCAR race
Loved it when Jenkins called those CART races
It is interesting that by 1988, GM had introduced the new W-body design in their Oldsmobile (Cutlass), Pontiac (Grand Prix) and Buick (Regal) lines, but stuck with the older Monte Carlo for another year under the Chevrolet brand before the Lumina went into production.
My mom and dad went to this race 1988 along with the 1989 Daytona firecracker 400.
Real men who had balls of brass in that top 5
They never should have gone away from this setup too far.
We went to this race I was 25 years old
This is the first stock car I ever saw in person.
DW's Tide Ride was all sudds on this day..
Crazy to see Daytona look so old, theres not even a catch fence in turn 2?!
This was my first NASCAR race. I was 21 and figured out 400 mi. was the perfect distance for a 12 pack and no bathroom break. These days a it is half a beer n 30 miles. Still remember them firing up Bobby Allison's show car in the middle of the crowd outside the stands.
They introduced restrictor plate to hold the fords back so the chevys could keep up
And to make it easier for ole' DW. As Earnhardt once said, "Waltrip doesn't like to go fast."
I was a Chevy fan in those days but you are right. Nobody could keep up with Bill Elliot with his brother Earnie building those insane engines fir him.
1:50:00 Earnhardt talking about the possibility of cheating at restrictor plate racing. Hello pot, it's the kettle.
I really do wonder how many of DE's wins were with "legit" equipment. NASCAR let him get away with just about anything, both in driving technique and technical matters.
@@gary24fan He definitely had the special Earnhardt restrictor plate strapped to his carburetor for the '98 Daytona 500.
And the reason this isnt cited as one of the best finishes of alltime is? No difference between Ruud Matinsville win and this, 2 cars glued together lol
Because it was bill Elliott nascar would like to erase Elliotts dominace in the 80s
@@brianbooher7318 maaaaann I dunno. That Bills son out there in the 9 now. I can see where they might wanna keep Million Dollar Bill season details somewhat under wraps what with that surreal dominance coming from all of that sudden mysterious extra horsepower that not even Rarnhardt could keep up with out of nowhere...
I see all 9 of Rick Wilson's fans have been here...
Buddy Arrington - still cruisin' around in a Dodge Mirada! :-D
He ended up tooling around in Elliott's old T-Birds after this.
He had long abandoned Chrysler by then.
Buddy was my favorite driver,he drove a Chrysler product to the bitter end.
He drove a Chevrolet Monte Carlo in this race and normally campaigned an ex-Bill Elliott Ford Thunderbird starting in 1985.
I believe this Chevy came from Hoss Ellington and was a former #1 Bull's Eye BBQ Sauce Monte Carlo in 1987 for Ron Bouchard & Brett Bodine. Used earlier in 1988 for Dale Jarrett
Bill wins this race with a bad car and loses his very last race on the last lap at Homestead in 2003 after totally dominating.
Never underestimate the luck factor in NASCAR!
Ugh Homestead in 2003 still hurts
Bill Elliott Motorcraft Ford # 1
ABC’s broadcast team in the booth then was horrible. Dry with just basic knowledge. Hated when they carried the races until the ESPN crew started handling the duties.
Starting Grid at 3:25
Lone star JR, Johnny Rutherford, calling a nascar race. Who would have funded it.
Rutherford is a real man he had to have 10 pounds balls between his legs to have as many big crashes as he had an get right back in one of them death traps
5:01 race start
Earnhardt made the same move that killed him years later.
He liked that move. 'Dale knows Sterling has a fast car". My mom and dad went to this race in the infield. I went to grandma's same with the 1989 400 race.
@@buddywilliams5650 I’m in Wisconsin BUT my dad lives 30 minutes - 1 hour away from track BUT that was THEN…and this is now. I’ve been to Daytona Beach….in December 😬.
3:27 grid
ABC's Wide World of Suck was awful. I always hated when they carried races. Best thing to ever happen to NASCAR Broadcasts was ESPN.
This was the last year they showed the Firecracker 400, thank God. ESPN started airing it in 1989 I believe.
Was Davey born a girl. I bet he was.
Rick was just inexperienced, someone else like Dale Sr or JAWS woulda beat Elliott back to the line...
Vine Wood with all my heart with so much better driver than Elliott how come he wouldn't take the leap from in my buddy that's cuz he didn't have a prayer and keeping with that damn 9
God damn autocorrect I hate it if iron heart was so great have you just take the lead at any time why didn't you just come right on up there and do it and take the lead from Elliot he was right there in the 3rdplace
Want to go watch the Michigan race 8 7 who put it on Earnhardt's on the White Flag lap
Richard Head he was good at talladega. But it’s true he never liked Daytona
Nah, Bill woulda whipped 'em all.